[00:00] <vinnl> Or for a Wiimote :P
[00:00] <TheSheep> nah, I would get too much bruises
[00:03] <vinnl> "Where did you get that bruise?" "Controlled my media player"
[00:04] <TheSheep> yeah, too many non-geeks are starting to play computer games, suddenly they require you to move
[02:05] <tominglis> hey i have xubuntu 8.04,  i have installed postfix, apache2, mysql, and php5 (including gd / mysql)
[02:06] <tominglis> i have chowned /var/www to www-data, but when i try and install drupal, my browser tries to download phtml file, so presumably it is not being parsed?
[02:06] <tominglis> i have checked to see that the php5 module is installed and that the files for libapache2-mod-php5 are installed
[02:06] <tominglis> i have reinstalled php5 and restarted apache lots of times
[02:07] <tominglis> does anyone have any suggestions?
[02:36] <favro> tominglis: if no-one here knows someone in #ubuntu-servers might
[02:44] <tominglis> favro: thanks will do
[03:11] <fretlessdavis> I just updated the linux kernel and headers today, and now nothing works
[03:12] <fretlessdavis> it started with crashing Pidgin
[03:12] <fretlessdavis> now I can't even get my toolbars and menus
[03:16] <favro> fretlessdavis: alt+F2 and type xfce4-panel &
[03:18] <fretlessdavis> thanks
[03:19] <fretlessdavis> any tips on getting xine, pidgin and everything else running again? did you have problems with the new kernel and headers?
[03:19] <favro> fretlessdavis: what does  uname -a  say? - it'll tell the kernel number you are on now?
[03:26] <toki_> anyone know if xubuntu 7.04 comes with mac or ieee rt73 usb drivers?
[03:28] <favro> not off hand - but I thought usb was usb no matter the os/machine architecture...
[03:29] <favro> 7.04 is getting old now
[03:33] <toki_> hmm i just built the rt73 aircrack driver and it finished, but said "warning: module file much too big (>1MB) - check your kernel settings or use 'strip' "
[03:33] <toki_> normal?
[04:21] <LoCaLMaChInE> favro you know where I can get copies of xubuntu
[04:23] <favro> !xubuntu
[04:24] <LoCaLMaChInE> I need cds because of dial up soeeds
[04:26] <geekthras> You could try torrenting the iso files and using wubi?
[04:26] <geekthras> Or am I confused (I bet I am)
[04:28] <LoCaLMaChInE> according to my dial up speeds it will take about 3-4 days for my download to complete. I need the cds as back up
[04:29] <comodo> can you somehow install xubuntu 8.04 from an ubuntu 8.04 cd?
[04:30] <favro> !xubuntu
[04:30] <comodo> thanks
[05:16] <ushimitsudoki1> Hello. I have successfully set an image as the background for my xfce4-panel, but there is a small (1-2px) grey border around the panel? Where can I find this setting to change?
[05:20] <favro> ushimitsudoki1: tried changing the panel size?
[05:20] <ushimitsudoki1> favro: yes. the image size is 32px high as is the panel. if i make the panel smaller it still has the border
[05:21] <ushimitsudoki1> favro: if i make the panel larger, then the bottom grey border gets thicker, but the side and top remain 1-2 px
[05:22] <ushimitsudoki1> favor: sorry, actually if i make the panel larger, the image tiles (at small values it just looks like the bottom border gets thicker)
[05:28] <favro> ushimitsudoki1: had a quick google and couldn't find anything...
[05:28] <ushimitsudoki1> favro: yeah been looking for a while now. here is a screenie of the problem: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?d04024396c.png
[05:30] <NCommander> Myrtti, ping
[05:31] <favro> ushimitsudoki1: only thing I can suggest is to take any color references for the panel out of the theme
[05:33] <ushimitsudoki1> favro: alright thanks much - i am looking into gtkrc-2.0 also seeing if something can be tweaked there
[05:35] <ushimitsudoki1> favro: that did it! it is xthickness and ythickness in the .gtkrc-2.0. set those to 0 and the border is gone
[05:36] <favro> well done ushimitsudoki1  :)
[05:44] <m_IRC_o> can't find a way to install java, any help??
[05:45] <cody-somerville> Applications > System > Add/Remove
[05:45] <cody-somerville> Install Xubuntu Restricted Extras package
[05:47] <m_IRC_o> cody-somerville: no java anywhere, not in add/remove, not in synaptic :|
[05:47] <cody-somerville> Have you the universe repository enabled?
[05:48] <m_IRC_o> cody-somerville: no idea about what are you talkin' about
[05:48] <cody-somerville> Applications > System > Software Sources
[05:49] <cody-somerville> !repositories | m_IRC_o
[05:52] <m_IRC_o> cody-somerville: checked it up, let's see...
[06:02] <m_IRC_o> cody-somerville: sun-java6.bin/demo/doc/fonts/javadb/jdk//jre/plugin/source??? which one to choose, plugin?
[06:03]  * cody-somerville is going to bed.
[06:03] <cody-somerville> you want plugin and jre
[06:07] <m_IRC_o> cody-somerville: ok, let's see. Goodnight ;)
[06:07]  * m_IRC_o leaves the room, falling asleep on the keybo#########òòàò+
[08:26] <mespejel> sup
[08:26] <mespejel> i will try something weird
[08:27] <mespejel> i like e17 windows manager, its all cute but its slow as hell
[08:27] <mespejel> at that time i try it with gnome
[08:27] <mespejel> i will try it with xfce.. maybe with xfce runs smooth.. what would be very nice
[08:27] <mespejel> lets see
[08:36] <Myrtti> Moo
[08:36] <NCommander> Myrtti, woo
[08:36] <NCommander> xfce 4.6 beta released
[08:36] <NCommander> See xubuntu-devel mailing list annoucement
[08:37] <Myrtti> Yay
[11:00] <boludo> hello
[13:14] <princesa> hi using icewm in xubuntu and running xfdesktop on top but when i logout it wont logout unless i do killall xfdesktop, Is there a way to stop it from doing so?
[13:17] <princesa> hi using icewm in xubuntu and running xfdesktop on top but when i logout it wont logout unless i do killall xfdesktop, Is there a way to stop it from doing so?
[13:17] <princesa> hi anyone around?
[13:18] <princesa> 54 users all afk?
[13:19] <v3n> salve
[13:19] <v3n> solo inglese?
[13:19] <v3n> italian no?
[13:20] <princesa> can someone help me please
[13:20] <v3n> i don't play alien-arena....
[13:20] <wols> !it | v3n
[13:20] <princesa> hi using icewm in xubuntu and running xfdesktop on top but when i logout it wont logout unless i do killall xfdesktop, Is there a way to stop it from doing so?
[13:21] <wols> !repeat princesa
[13:21] <wols> !repeat |princesa
[13:23] <princesa> hi using icewm in xubuntu and running xfdesktop on top but when i logout it wont logout unless i do killall xfdesktop, Is there a way to stop it from doing so?
[13:24] <princesa> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/24/howto-load-xfce-menu-with-icewm/ ive followed this tutorial for xfdesktop on icewm but like i said ive not beeing able to logout unless i use kill command
[13:26] <v3n> !it
[13:33] <princesa> hi using icewm in xubuntu and running xfdesktop on top but when i logout it wont logout unless i do killall xfdesktop, Is there a way to stop it from doing so?
[13:36] <princesa> anyone here, anyone at all?
[15:21] <Ben_Cs> hello
[15:22] <vinze> Hey Ben_Cs
[15:22] <Ben_Cs> what app is there for cloning websites?
[15:22] <Ben_Cs> i mean for offline browsing
[15:22] <vinze> There's wget, it's a CLI app
[15:22] <Ben_Cs> how about one with gui?
[15:22] <Myrtti> gwget?
[15:22] <vinze> Not sure, perhaps gwget can also do it, perhaps there's a Firefox extension
[15:22] <vinze> Can't Firefox do it natively?
[15:23] <vinze> (wget is really easy by the way)
[15:24] <Ben_Cs> didn't see that option in firefox
[15:25] <vinze> What if you tick File->Work Offline?
[15:25] <Odd-rationale> there's an app for that, let me see if i can remember its name...
[15:27] <Ben_Cs> vinze: but i need the website to be on my HD for that!
[15:27] <Odd-rationale> !info httrack
[15:28] <Odd-rationale> !info webhttrack
[15:28] <vinze> Ben_Cs, I just ran gwget and it can do it
[15:28] <vinze> !gwget
[15:28] <vinze> !find gwget
[15:29] <Ben_Cs> vinze: i'll check. thanks
[15:31] <vinze> And downloader4x also seems to be able to accomplish it
[15:31] <vinze> !find d4x
[15:49] <Ben_Cs> vinze: httrak is great. and it also has a web-browser interface
[15:49] <vinze> Cool :)
[15:49] <Ben_Cs> vinze:thanks alot!
[15:50] <vinze> Ben_Cs, Odd-rationale pointed it out to you :)
[15:51] <Ben_Cs> Odd-rationale: thanks!!!
[15:51] <Ben_Cs> :)
[15:51] <Odd-rationale> np :)
[16:23] <m_IRC_o> HELLO guys. Does xubuntu have any sort of task manager?? firefox crashes are drivin' me mad :@
[16:25] <m_IRC_o> HELLO guys. Does xubuntu have any sort of task manager?? firefox crashes are drivin' me mad :@
[16:29] <Odd-rationale> m_IRC_o: xfce4-taskmanager
[16:30] <Odd-rationale> also, condsider htop, console app...
[16:31] <m_IRC_o> odd-rationable: hmm what??
[16:33] <Odd-rationale> m_IRC_o: you can start xfce4-taskmanager by entering "xfce4-taskmanager" in a terminal
[16:34] <Odd-rationale> m_IRC_o: what i has saying, htop maybe a better app: sudo apt-get install htop
[16:34] <m_IRC_o> odd-rationable: hmm I see, thanx. and what about htop?
[16:34] <Odd-rationale> then run "htop" in a termina;
[16:34] <Odd-rationale> terminal
[16:36] <m_IRC_o> just tipo "htop" to run it?
[16:36] <m_IRC_o> *tipe
[16:36] <Odd-rationale> yes, type htop
[16:38] <m_IRC_o> Iodd-rationable: ok it's talking about mttfont or something-like-this, do I require it?
[16:39] <Odd-rationale> if it's a dep, then yes
[16:40] <m_IRC_o> can't understand if it is a dep or not, well I'll install it
[16:42] <m_IRC_o> ....damn! htop is kind hard to understand
[16:42] <m_IRC_o> ho to Kill firefox process?
[16:43] <Odd-rationale> m_IRC_o: just use the arrow keys to highlight a process
[16:43] <Odd-rationale> then press f9
[16:43] <m_IRC_o> and then? F9?
[16:43] <m_IRC_o> let's see
[16:44] <m_IRC_o> well it works, thanx a lot
[17:15] <Cheese_Puff|Lapt> hi
[17:16]  * Cheese_Puff|Lapt needs help installing OS X.3 on a g3 after installing xubuntu
[17:39] <Zaiden> Hi. My top bar in Xubuntu has dissapeared, and I can't open the console or any program without it. How do I get it back?
[17:40] <vinnl> Zaiden, you still got your bottom bar?
[17:40] <vinnl> If so, right-click it, select "Customise panel", then click the +
[17:40] <zoredache> is your top bar gone too?  you may need to do an alt-f2 and run xfce4-panel
[17:50] <Zaiden> alt-f2 doesn't show anything
[17:50] <vinnl> That's odd
[17:51] <vinnl> Can you right-click on the desktop and get a menu?
[17:53] <Zaiden> Yes it does
[17:54] <vinnl> You could select "Create Launcher", configure it with the command "xfce4-panel" and then double-click it
[17:59] <Zaiden> When I right click the launcher I only get the option for desktop settings
[18:00] <vinnl> Zaiden, you've already created the launcher for xfce4-panel?
[18:04] <Zaiden> I'm trying to help my brother with the problem, and apparently he thought the window that comes up after selecting create launcher wasn't important,s orry
[18:04] <vinnl> xD
[18:04] <Zaiden> And it worked, thank you :D
[18:04] <vinnl> Great, my pleasure :)
[19:56] <darku1> hi
[19:56] <vinnl> Hey darku1
[19:56] <darku1> i have a problem
[19:56] <vinnl> Bring it on ;)
[19:56] <darku1> i want to acceed to the network
[19:56] <darku1> to watch the fiiles
[19:56] <darku1> shared
[19:56] <darku1> ...
[19:57] <darku1> can't find the floder called ﻿network:///
[19:57] <darku1> on ubuntu it works
[19:57] <darku1> but here
[19:57] <vinnl> darku1, it's a SAMBA share?
[19:57] <darku1> yes
[19:58] <vinnl> Try the second result at http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&btnI=Im+Feeling+Lucky&q=xubuntu+samba
[19:58] <darku1> it's samba and ms
[19:58] <floating> samba rumba bueno
[19:58] <vinnl> ...and cross your fingers for native Samba support in 8.10 :)
[19:58] <darku1> :)
[19:59] <vinnl> http://cody.zapto.org/?p=41 :)
[20:00] <darku1> ok
[20:00] <darku1> thx
[20:00] <vinnl> My pleasure :)
[20:00] <vinnl> brb
[20:00] <Ben_Cs> good evening
[20:02] <Ben_Cs> tried debian with xfce, and don't see a big cause to move to it from xubuntu. the work feels pretty much the same
[20:03] <vinnl> Cool
[20:04] <vinnl> In that regard, Ubuntu and its derivatives have become somewhat like Windows: its biggest advantage is its market share and thus support
[20:04] <vinnl> As in: if exciting new applications make packages available its most likely for Ubuntu
[20:09] <linko47> the debian with xfce was faster I'm assuming?
[20:09] <linko47> probably not by much though...
[20:12] <vinnl> linko47, why's that?
[20:13] <linko47> why is debian faster?
[20:14] <vinnl> Yeah
[20:15] <linko47> I am not quite sure of the reasons.  Possibly because it does not have as many background processes and services running
[20:15] <vinnl> :)
[20:15] <linko47> would you say that is the answer?
[20:16] <Ben_Cs> linko47: yes, not by much. it's because the debian is bundled with less pre-installed software
[20:17] <linko47> speaking of pre-installed software.  I have removed gdm and installed slim.  Is this a little overboard?
[20:17] <cody-somerville> Intrepid is apparently quite a bit faster than Hardy
[20:17] <cody-somerville> Infact, I think we've managed to improve boot times by atleast 15 seconds on most hardware.
[20:17]  * vinnl wets his pants (exited :)
[20:17] <linko47> good good.  Speed is one of the key aspects of Xubuntu I love
[20:18] <vinnl> Too bad it comes with a reputation of being a last resort :(
[20:18] <linko47> does Alpha 4 demonstrate this increase in speed?
[20:18] <cody-somerville> It should, yes.
[20:18] <linko47> Ah.  I need to burn a copy
[20:18] <cody-somerville> Alpha 5 should demonstrate how the live cd will work in lower memory systems again
[20:18] <Ben_Cs> xdm is light too
[20:21] <linko47> does Alpha 4 have a nice preview to the new artwork?
[20:22] <cody-somerville> no
[20:26] <Ben_Cs> actually i think xubuntu users won't get much news with Intrepid Xubuntu because the xfce release cycle is much slower than of gnome, and so: when Intrepid will be released no new xfce will be available yet.
[20:27] <Odd-rationale> unless xfce 4.6 get's released in time :D
[20:27]  * vinnl crosses his fingers :)
[20:27] <Odd-rationale> scheduled by the end of this month...
[20:28] <Odd-rationale> i tried to find news on how the development of 4.6 is going. But i couldn't find much...
[20:29] <vinnl> The mailinglist is quite active :)
[20:29] <Ben_Cs> Odd-rationale: really? where can i find the timetable?
[20:29] <Odd-rationale> http://wiki.xfce.org/roadmap_to_46
[20:30] <Odd-rationale> http://wiki.xfce.org/milestones_to_46
[20:30] <Odd-rationale> Ben_Cs: the second link has the schedule...
[20:31] <Ben_Cs> Odd-rationale: thanks
[20:32] <Ben_Cs> Odd-rationale: actually xfce enjoys stability BECAUSE it's not too fast release cycle. something like debian stability.
[20:32] <Odd-rationale> yeah, i agreed
[20:33] <linko47> stability > bleeding-edge
[20:33] <pomada> hello
[20:33] <linko47> hi
[20:33] <vinnl> Hey pomada
[20:33] <vinnl> Then again, smaller releases with a faster cycle are nice too :)
[20:33] <pomada> yesterday i try like for 2 hours:S to use different themes on
[20:33] <pomada> for xfce
[20:34] <pomada> xfce room guys try to help me but their method didnt work
[20:34] <pomada> is there any other method?
[20:34] <linko47> so you are trying to install a new theme?
[20:34] <Odd-rationale> !themes
[20:34] <Odd-rationale> !changethemes
[20:35] <Odd-rationale> last one...
[20:35] <Odd-rationale> !xfce-themes
[20:35] <cody-somerville> !changethemes-#xubuntu is <alias> xfce-themes
[20:36] <Odd-rationale> ok, i'll remember that, cody-somerville
[20:36] <Ben_Cs> Odd-rationale: the Midori browser project looks nice. it seemes the the xfce goodies is the most extensive native plugins project there is. am i right?
[20:36] <vinnl> Or do a Google search for "design desktop xfce" *hinthint* :P
[20:36] <linko47> I've never seen so many cool plugins in my life.
[20:37] <vinnl> :)
[20:37] <Odd-rationale> Ben_Cs: yes midori looks nice. i wonder how it will compare to epiphany-webkit...
[20:37] <sim-value> hi
[20:37] <vinnl> Hey sim-value
[20:37] <Ben_Cs> !epiphany
[20:37] <vinnl> Shame :P
[20:37] <sim-value> will i be able to use Xubuntu on a 128 MB ram PC ?
[20:37] <Odd-rationale> !info epiphany
[20:38] <Odd-rationale> wrong one...
[20:38] <Odd-rationale> !find epiphany
[20:38] <zoredache> !info epiphany-browser
[20:38] <sim-value> Epiphany webrowser rulez ---
[20:38] <pomada> Odd-rationale: thank i already have that info, and actually thats the problem.. To install themes, unpack it in ~/.themes/... this method does not work for me, i try for about 2 hours its just not working
[20:38] <pomada> i need an alternative method
[20:38] <Odd-rationale> sim-value: you should. but don't expect blasting performance... :P
[20:38] <sim-value> I dont ...
[20:38] <sim-value> Luckily my PC has 370 Mb ram
[20:39] <sim-value> ...
[20:39] <sim-value> only the one of my brother doesnt
[20:39] <vinnl> pomada, there's no alternative method
[20:39] <Odd-rationale> pomada: hmm. what themes is this?
[20:39] <vinnl> pomada, how are you selecting the theme?
[20:39] <sim-value> well so im gonna donwload Xubuntu (without using Compiz)
[20:39] <Odd-rationale> vinnl: well, you can extract to /usr/share/themes as root ;)
[20:39] <vinnl> Odd-rationale, ah, true, but I wouldn't expect more success there :)
[20:39] <Ben_Cs> yeh, good question, how midori will compare to epiphany
[20:40] <linko47> midori seemed to format some pages funny. almost like dillo in some cases
[20:40] <vinnl> Doesn't Midori just use WebKit for that?
[20:40] <vinnl> So it should render the same as epiphany-webkit
[20:40] <Odd-rationale> when midori first came out, i thought it was more like an example of how to use webkit in gtk...
[20:41] <Odd-rationale> the *real* gtk webkit broswer to be epiphany...
[20:41] <sim-value> Dillo is unusable
[20:41] <Odd-rationale> pomada: do you have the link to the theme?
[20:41] <sim-value> !gee
[20:41] <sim-value> *upps*
[20:41] <Odd-rationale> links beats all... :p
[20:42] <Myrtti> !changethemes-#xubuntu is <alias> xfce-themes
[20:42] <Myrtti> cody-somerville: ^
[20:43] <cody-somerville> :]
[20:43] <Myrtti> anything else you'd like to tweak today?
[20:44] <Myrtti> I'm on a mellow mood, I stayed awake last night and I'm about as mellow as a cooked noodle
[20:44] <Ben_Cs> well i'm off to sleep. good night all!
[20:44] <cody-somerville> I just broke up with my lover earlier this week and I'm a train wreck
[20:44] <vinnl> Night Ben_Cs
[20:45] <pomada> Odd-rationale: its not just one theme.. what i mean is that i try with over 10 diffferent themes and from xf windog manager and gtk2 as well
[20:45] <vinnl> cody-somerville, sorry to hear that :(
[20:45] <pomada> that method is simple not working for me.. its not the theme
[20:45] <pomada> the one that its not working
[20:45] <vinnl> pomada, you did select to use the theme in UI Settings right?
[20:45] <pomada> no because it was not even there
[20:45] <pomada> it just does not appear
[20:46] <pomada> any theme i put on the theme directory
[20:46] <vinnl> Ah, of course, themes are not going to apply by themselves
[20:46] <vinnl> pomada, can you open the Xfce Settings Manager?
[20:46] <pomada> yes
[20:46] <vinnl> (Which version of Xubuntu are you using btw?)
[20:46] <Odd-rationale> pomada: is it a gtk theme or metcity?
[20:47] <Odd-rationale> metacity
[20:47] <pomada> i have gtk and xfwm4
[20:47] <pomada> as well
[20:47] <pomada> not metcity thats for kde i believe
[20:47] <vinnl> GNOME
[20:47] <pomada> ok
[20:47] <Odd-rationale> metacity is for gnome...
[20:48] <vinnl> Hmm, does anyone know the command for Xfce's UI Settings?
[20:48] <linko47> xfce-setting-show?
[20:48] <vinnl> No, that's just the settings manager
[20:49] <vinnl> I believe it needs some argument to load specific settings dialog, but I can't figure out which one
[20:49] <Odd-rationale> xfce-setting-show ui
[20:49] <Myrtti> cody-somerville: :-<
[20:49] <vinnl> Ah, pomada, what do you get if you run that?
[20:49] <vinnl> (Thanks Odd-rationale)
[20:50] <cody-somerville> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LqJ2Hqt3A4 <-- beautiful song
[20:50]  * cody-somerville is off.
[20:50] <vinnl> Bye cody-somerville
[20:50] <vinnl> Oh, wait
[20:50] <vinnl> cody-somerville, see my question in -devel :)
[20:50] <Odd-rationale> vinnl: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce#Commands_for_the_settings_manager
[20:51] <pomada> Odd-rationale: I got: "Xfce settings manager error: no such plugin "u"
[20:51] <Odd-rationale> pomada: ui
[20:51] <vinnl> Odd-rationale, hey, that's handy!
[20:51] <pomada> ah
[20:51] <pomada> lol
[20:52] <pomada> well it shows my user interface
[20:52] <vinnl> pomada, can you select your theme in the list?
[20:52] <Odd-rationale> pomada: do you have a theme extracted into ~/.themes right now?
[20:53] <pomada> yes i do
[20:53] <pomada> ah no i cant even see
[20:54] <Odd-rationale> pomada: can you pastebin "ls -R ~/.themes"
[20:54] <pomada> the new themes
[20:54] <vinnl> !pastebin
[20:55] <pomada> nothing appears
[20:55] <pomada> Odd-rationale:
[20:55] <pomada> Odd-rationale: nothing appears
[20:55] <pomada> its black
[20:55] <pomada> i dont know why
[20:55] <Odd-rationale> pomada: returned to prompt?
[20:55] <linko47> do you have permissions to write to the folder?
[20:56] <pomada> maybe cause .themes does not exist.. but just themes without period?
[20:56] <pomada> but does has nothing to do.. or it does?
[20:56] <Odd-rationale> it does...
[20:56] <pomada> oh lol
[20:56] <Odd-rationale> you need to extract into .themes not themes
[20:56] <linko47> it needs to be a hidden file. : .themes
[20:56] <pomada> ok i will create another dir with .themes
[20:57] <Odd-rationale> and .themes needs to be in the root of your home directory
[20:58] <Odd-rationale> hence, ~/.themes
[20:59] <pomada> hmmm
[20:59] <pomada> i cant find a /root dir
[20:59] <pomada> on my /home dir
[20:59] <pomada> ok
[20:59] <pomada> i found it
[20:59] <vinnl> Root means not in a folder inside your home dir
[20:59] <pomada> omg.. i didnt even had to create it! it was
[20:59] <pomada> there all the time.. :S
[20:59] <vinnl> So /home/pomada is the root of your home directory
[20:59] <vinnl> (If pomada  is your username)
[21:00] <Odd-rationale> pomada: i think i messed you up...
[21:00] <linko47> so you need a /home/pomada/.themes
[21:00] <Odd-rationale> pomada: not /root/.themes
[21:01] <Odd-rationale> an easy way to do it is: mkdir ~/.themes
[21:01] <vinnl> Be sure to select View->Show Hidden Files in Thunar (the file manager), otherwise you won't see it
[21:02] <pomada> yeahs thats i mean.. i remember a while ago one guy show me how to use that
[21:02] <pomada> i remember it was control H
[21:02] <vinnl> Yep
[21:02] <Odd-rationale> pomada: make sure you do not extract to /root/.themes
[21:02] <pomada> huh?
[21:02] <pomada> ahh
[21:02] <pomada> no no
[21:02] <vinnl> I'm sorry for the shameless self-promotion, but I've explained the whole process here: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44/
[21:02] <pomada> i dont even see. a root dir
[21:02] <pomada> in my home dir
[21:03] <pomada> what i mean is that.. this xfce guys told me to CREATE a themes folder on my home directory..
[21:03] <pomada> they never mention root and they never mention there was already
[21:03] <pomada> i didnt have to create anything
[21:04] <vinnl> I think he meant you had to create a .themes directory (note the dot)
[21:04] <Odd-rationale> pomada: no. by "root" i did not mean a folder name...
[21:04] <pomada> anyway.. i will try it on my .themes folder that was there all the time
[21:04] <pomada> yeah i understand that
[21:04] <Odd-rationale> :|
[21:04] <pomada> but at least you know that root is th home directory for the superuser and that the themes folder was there
[21:04] <pomada> but hide
[21:05] <Odd-rationale> pomada: you want it in the .themes folder of your normal user. not of the superuser...
[21:05] <pomada> guys guy made me create a new on lol..
[21:05] <pomada> they even help me out with commands.. to create the folder
[21:06] <pomada> when it was there all the time haha
[21:06] <vinnl> I think the command made sure it was there :)
[21:06] <Odd-rationale> pomada: slow down... i want to make sure you are doing it right...
[21:06] <Odd-rationale> pomada: do you have a terminal open?
[21:06] <pomada> vinnl: no, it as created in my /home folder
[21:07] <pomada> a new one and visible
[21:07] <pomada> yes
[21:07] <vinnl> pomada, yeah, I suppose the command was "mkdir ~/.themes" which created the folder in your home folder
[21:07] <Odd-rationale> pomada: ok. i'll give you a command, and you tell me what is says. it if returns you to prompt, just type $
[21:08] <Odd-rationale> make sure you copy the commands correctly...
[21:08] <Odd-rationale> ok?
[21:08] <pomada> as root?
[21:08] <Odd-rationale> pomada: here's the first one: cd
[21:08] <Odd-rationale> pomada: no
[21:09] <pomada> first you say to type $
[21:09] <Odd-rationale> pomada: normal user
[21:09] <pomada> ok
[21:09] <pomada> so just cd ?
[21:09] <pomada> no $?
[21:09] <Odd-rationale> pomada: sorry, i meant if it does not return any text to you, then tell me $ so that i know
[21:09] <pomada> ok
[21:09] <Odd-rationale> so the first on is: cd
[21:10] <pomada> done
[21:10] <Odd-rationale> pomada: ok. now next is: pwd
[21:10] <pomada> yes
[21:10] <Odd-rationale> what does it say?
[21:10] <pomada> home/pomada
[21:11] <Odd-rationale> pomada: ok, next one: ls -a | grep themes
[21:12] <pomada> i got
[21:12] <pomada> .themes
[21:12] <Odd-rationale> ok. so you do have .themes folder in /home/pomada/
[21:12] <Odd-rationale> pomada: was that there all the time? or did you make that one?
[21:13] <pomada> i dont even know now
[21:13] <vinnl> Odd-rationale, does it matter? :)
[21:13] <pomada> maybe vinnl was right
[21:13] <vinnl> Of course, I'm always right ;-)
[21:13] <pomada> what they help me out was to create this folder
[21:13] <Odd-rationale> pomada: that is the folder you want to extract your theme into: /home/pomada/.themes
[21:13] <vinnl> (Except when I'm wrong, of course
[21:14] <pomada> yes i know and i did
[21:14] <pomada> its not working
[21:14] <pomada> i will try another theme
[21:14] <pomada> wait
[21:14] <vinnl> pomada, can you do (in the terminal): cd ~/.themes
[21:14] <Odd-rationale> pomada: ok. pastebin the output of: ls -R  ~/.themes
[21:14] <vinnl> !pastebin | pomada
[21:15] <pomada> yes i can vinnl
[21:15] <vinnl> pomada, then what Odd-rationale said
[21:15] <Odd-rationale> as a hint, you can hightlight the command in you irc window, then go to your terminal and middle-click (both left and right mouse buttons at the same time)
[21:15] <Odd-rationale> to paste the command
[21:16] <pomada> no need
[21:16] <pomada> its there
[21:16] <pomada> all the theme its there
[21:16] <pomada> that one i want..
[21:16] <pomada> but its just not working
[21:16] <pomada> i will try another one
[21:17] <vinnl> pomada, can you please just do that? So we can see if you did it correctly
[21:17] <pomada> its a lf texts.. its just all the files for the theme i want
[21:17] <vinnl> pomada, then you did it wrong
[21:17] <vinnl> pomada, the theme needs to be in its own folder
[21:17] <pomada> it is
[21:17] <pomada> where else would be
[21:17] <vinnl> (The folder name will be the name of the theme)
[21:17] <vinnl> The files might just be under .themes
[21:17] <vinnl> But do try another theme
[21:18] <Odd-rationale> pomada: ok. let's do it this way: first do: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:19] <Odd-rationale> tell me when you got that...
[21:19] <vinnl> Odd-rationale, wow, that package should definitely be installed by default
[21:19] <pomada> vinnl: what i did is to.. paste the tar file in .themes then extract it there
[21:19] <pomada> what i did is to delete the tar file and just leave the extract folder.. and change the name to the folder
[21:19] <vinnl> pomada, I'll let Odd-rationale  guide you now :)
[21:19] <vinnl> (Less confusing ;-)
[21:22] <pomada> woa
[21:22] <pomada> at least one command its working
[21:23] <pomada> for the window manager
[21:23] <vinnl> \0/
[21:23] <pomada> maybe the gtk2 ones are not working
[21:23] <pomada> i will try another gtk2 for user interface
[21:23] <vinnl> How many gtk themes have you tried?
[21:23] <pomada> 2
[21:23] <vinnl> Odd...
[21:23] <pomada> that are similar
[21:23] <pomada> supposedly will look exactly like
[21:23] <pomada> the e17 bling bling desktop
[21:23] <pomada> :(
[21:24] <pomada> i wanted to see that
[21:24] <pomada> lol
[21:24] <pomada> i love e17 but needs to mature a lot more
[21:24]  * vinnl still doesn't get what people see in that theme :P
[21:24] <pomada> so i back to xfce
[21:25] <pomada> oh god i need to do a lot of stuff
[21:26] <pomada> i also want to install the latest cvs of the libdc1394 library
[21:26] <pomada> i try for about an hour, fallow every instruction of the readme and install
[21:26] <pomada> it was painful
[21:27] <Odd-rationale> pomada: ok have you installed pastebinit yet?
[21:27] <pomada> Odd-rationale: i didnt.. u think that was over lol
[21:27] <pomada> cuase i was ablet o make it work
[21:27]  * Odd-rationale has just went and tried to install a themes. it worked...
[21:28] <pomada> Odd-rationale: still need me to do that?
[21:28] <Odd-rationale> pomada: is everything working?
[21:28] <pomada> one favor
[21:28] <pomada> can someone try this
[21:28] <pomada> http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/E17+-GTK2+and+Metacity+(not+official)?content=60092
[21:28] <pomada> and let me know if it work for you
[21:30] <vinnl> Works fine for me
[21:30] <vinnl> (Ouch... It's damn ugly too :P)
[21:30] <pomada> hmmm
[21:31] <Odd-rationale> works here to
[21:31] <pomada> ok weird.. i have problems with gtk but not with xfce themes
[21:31] <vinnl> It's a very slow theme though, makes heavy use of the pixmap engine
[21:32] <vinnl> If you want it solved I'd go ahead and sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:32] <linko47> i like the murrine-themes that are in the intrepid repos
[21:32] <linko47> very very nice
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> but now, after i delete them from .themes, they won't go away from my ui settings manager... :(
[21:33]  * vinnl still likes MurrinaStormCloud
[21:33] <linko47> stormcloud is nice
[21:33] <vinnl> linko47, what are some nice themes in Intrepid?
[21:33] <linko47> my favorite is the muffina cappucino
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> i just tried kde4-oxygen. pretty effective clone...
[21:33] <pomada> detour themes for e17 i think are the best good looking
[21:34] <pomada> anyway i did  Odd-rationale
[21:34] <vinnl> linko47, this the one? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Art+Of+Cappuccino+GnomeTheme+and+Murrina?content=64308
[21:34] <linko47> vinnl: murrina -- aquaish/bleu/blue/candy/cappucino/ealm/fancycandy/gilouche/lovegray/neographite/ and verdeolivo is really nice
[21:35] <Odd-rationale> pomada: so now do "ls -R ~/.themes | pastebinit"
[21:35] <linko47> ewwww no
[21:35] <linko47> no no no
[21:35] <Odd-rationale> pomada: then give us the url
[21:35] <vinnl> Murrine is definitely a nice engine
[21:35] <vinnl> linko47, hehe :)
[21:35] <linko47> this one is much more subtle, very similar to  stormcloud
[21:35] <vinnl> Ah, I think I've seen it once
[21:38] <Odd-rationale> vinnl: do you know how to get remove a theme from being listed in xfce-settings-show ui ?
[21:41] <Odd-rationale> ok. nvm, a quick log out did the trick...
[21:43] <pomada> http://paste.ubuntu.com/41015/
[21:44] <pomada> i found this ubuntu pastebin its more cool i think
[21:44] <vinze> Didn't even notice my internet connection dropped...
[21:44] <vinze> Did you paste anything?
[21:44] <Odd-rationale> pomada: yes, you have a mistake...
[21:45] <pomada> what mistake?
[21:45] <Odd-rationale> pomada: try this command: cp -r /home/pomada/.themes/Cacahuate/E17-* /home/pomada/.themes
[21:45] <Odd-rationale> that should fix it...
[21:46] <Odd-rationale> vinze: yes, pomada pasted http://paste.ubuntu.com/41015/
[21:48] <pomada> ok i did
[21:48] <pomada> lt me check if it works
[21:48] <Odd-rationale> pomada: now do "ls -R ~/.themes | pastebinit" again
[21:49] <vinze> Ah right, so it's just the packaging of those E17 themes that are to blame
[21:51] <pomada> oh thanks
[21:51] <pomada> its working now
[21:51] <Odd-rationale> !yay | pomada
[21:51] <pomada> why i needed to do that? and with you guys work by default
[21:52] <Odd-rationale> pomada: how did you extract the tarball?
[21:52] <vinze> :P
[21:52] <pomada> right click
[21:52] <pomada> extract here
[21:52] <pomada> what else lol
[21:52] <Odd-rationale> pomada: well, it probably created a folder for the tarball then extracted the tarball... idk...
[21:53] <Odd-rationale> let me try...
[21:53] <pomada> yeah it created a folder
[21:53] <pomada> but with all the files already extracted of course
[21:55] <Odd-rationale> pomada: idk, "extract here" should work as well...
[21:56] <Odd-rationale> i just did: mv foo.tar ~/.themes/; tar -xvf foo.tar
[21:58] <slow-motion> hi
[21:59] <Odd-rationale> !hi | slow-motion
[21:59] <vinnl> Hey slow-motion
[22:01] <pomada> in user interface preferences
[22:02] <pomada> use hinting its just for low resolution monitors?
[22:33] <The-Kernel> I wonder, how does one ping an IPv6?
[22:34] <The-Kernel> how does one even find their IPv6?
[22:35] <favro> http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-to-ping-ipv6-ip-address.html
[22:36] <favro> The-Kernel: ifconfig should let you know the ipv6 address
[22:49] <The-Kernel> thanks favro
[22:49] <favro> :)
[22:58] <whileimher1> How do I install a font in XFCE?
[22:59] <favro> !font
[22:59] <whileimher1> ty
[23:07] <pomada> fonts are installed
[23:08] <pomada> on .themes as well?
[23:08] <pomada> or where?
[23:08] <Odd-rationale> pomada: ~/.fonts
[23:08] <pomada> thanks
[23:08] <pomada> i need to create ?
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> you might. i think it only works for .ttf's
[23:09] <pomada> yeah is not there
[23:09] <pomada> so just click create folder? and fonts?
[23:10] <pomada> in my home directory?
[23:10] <Odd-rationale> pomada: .fonts
[23:10] <Odd-rationale> pomada: don't forget the .
[23:10] <Odd-rationale> pomada: or just do: mkdir ~/.fonts
[23:11] <pomada> thanks
[23:11] <pomada> its hard to remember all does commands
[23:12] <pomada> a lot of people have
[23:12] <pomada> gave me a lot of good commands
[23:12] <pomada> but i forgot them when i really need it:(
[23:12] <Odd-rationale> pomada: just learn as you go
[23:12] <Odd-rationale> also http://linuxcommand.org is a great site
[23:13] <Odd-rationale> you can bookmark that so that you don't lose it ;)
[23:15] <pomada> thanks
[23:15] <pomada> i also need new icons as well:S
[23:15] <pomada> the new theme make them look very small
[23:16] <pomada> firefox logo is tiny tiny lol
[23:16] <Odd-rationale> !icons
[23:16] <Odd-rationale> oops wrong one...
[23:18] <pomada> i already found where
[23:18] <pomada> to get icons
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> icons get extraced into ~/.icons
[23:18] <pomada> i need to create a /.icons as well?
[23:18] <pomada> okkk
[23:19] <pomada> it was a lot easier just to get e16 and have a nice desktop but
[23:20] <pomada> i want to learn and also
[23:20] <pomada> xfwm runs faster in my opinion that
[23:20] <pomada> e16
[23:22] <pomada> ahh i love amarok radio
[23:22] <pomada> lot of good music
[23:26] <pomada> hmm
[23:26] <pomada> i cannnot see my font
[23:27] <pomada> hmm weird
[23:27] <pomada> i just check the icons folder and are there all extracted
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> !fonts
[23:30] <pomada> hmm there is no documentation for xubuntu
[23:30] <pomada> to add repositories
[23:30] <pomada> seems i will neeed to ad some
[23:30] <Odd-rationale> pomada: it will be similar to ubuntu
[23:30] <pomada> but the software preferences from ubuntu
[23:30] <pomada> its dfferent
[23:30] <pomada> i dont see the panel for installation media
[23:31] <Odd-rationale> pomada: what repo do you need to add?
[23:32] <pomada> well not really to add a repo
[23:32] <pomada> but the instructions for fonts via synaptic
[23:32] <pomada> say that i need to enable the universe
[23:32] <pomada> and multiuniverse
[23:32] <pomada> repos
[23:32] <favro> !repos
[23:32] <pomada> and im there
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> Try going to Applications --> Sytem --> Software Sorces
[23:32] <pomada> but its totally different
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> close synaptcs first...
[23:33] <pomada> than xubuntu
[23:33] <pomada> ij
[23:33] <pomada> ok
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> then, i think it is the second tab, you can enable universe and multiuniverse
[23:33] <pomada> third party software?
[23:34] <Odd-rationale> i don't remember. but you'll see a check box for universe and multiuniverse
[23:36] <pomada> well
[23:36] <pomada> it was already checked by default
[23:36] <pomada> main, universe, restricted and multiuniverse
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> pomada: then those repos should already be enabled...
[23:37] <pomada> yeah
[23:49] <LoCaLMaChIn1> does anyone have dialup?
[23:51] <LoCaLMaChIn1> hi does anyone have dialup
[23:53] <LoCaLMaChIn1> Is there a modem dialer I can use for ubuntu
[23:53] <LoCaLMaChIn1> xubuntu
[23:53] <favro> !dialup
[23:54] <LoCaLMaChIn1> ubottu I am looking for a modem dialer that is like kppp
[23:55] <favro> !info ppp
[23:56] <LoCaLMaChIn1> favro do you have dial up?
[23:56] <favro> no
[23:57] <LoCaLMaChIn1> do you know of any I did a google no luck
[23:58] <favro> you have ppp already installed - type ppp in terminal - I don't know how it works
[23:58] <LoCaLMaChIn1> yeah the only thing that came up was kppp hmmm