[00:00] Or for a Wiimote :P [00:00] nah, I would get too much bruises [00:03] "Where did you get that bruise?" "Controlled my media player" [00:04] yeah, too many non-geeks are starting to play computer games, suddenly they require you to move [02:05] hey i have xubuntu 8.04, i have installed postfix, apache2, mysql, and php5 (including gd / mysql) [02:06] i have chowned /var/www to www-data, but when i try and install drupal, my browser tries to download phtml file, so presumably it is not being parsed? [02:06] i have checked to see that the php5 module is installed and that the files for libapache2-mod-php5 are installed [02:06] i have reinstalled php5 and restarted apache lots of times [02:07] does anyone have any suggestions? [02:36] tominglis: if no-one here knows someone in #ubuntu-servers might [02:44] favro: thanks will do [03:11] I just updated the linux kernel and headers today, and now nothing works [03:12] it started with crashing Pidgin [03:12] now I can't even get my toolbars and menus [03:16] fretlessdavis: alt+F2 and type xfce4-panel & [03:18] thanks [03:19] any tips on getting xine, pidgin and everything else running again? did you have problems with the new kernel and headers? [03:19] fretlessdavis: what does uname -a say? - it'll tell the kernel number you are on now? [03:26] anyone know if xubuntu 7.04 comes with mac or ieee rt73 usb drivers? [03:28] not off hand - but I thought usb was usb no matter the os/machine architecture... [03:29] 7.04 is getting old now [03:33] hmm i just built the rt73 aircrack driver and it finished, but said "warning: module file much too big (>1MB) - check your kernel settings or use 'strip' " [03:33] normal? === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [04:21] favro you know where I can get copies of xubuntu [04:23] !xubuntu [04:23] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [04:24] I need cds because of dial up soeeds [04:26] You could try torrenting the iso files and using wubi? [04:26] Or am I confused (I bet I am) [04:28] according to my dial up speeds it will take about 3-4 days for my download to complete. I need the cds as back up [04:29] can you somehow install xubuntu 8.04 from an ubuntu 8.04 cd? [04:30] !xubuntu [04:30] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [04:30] thanks [05:16] Hello. I have successfully set an image as the background for my xfce4-panel, but there is a small (1-2px) grey border around the panel? Where can I find this setting to change? [05:20] ushimitsudoki1: tried changing the panel size? [05:20] favro: yes. the image size is 32px high as is the panel. if i make the panel smaller it still has the border [05:21] favro: if i make the panel larger, then the bottom grey border gets thicker, but the side and top remain 1-2 px [05:22] favor: sorry, actually if i make the panel larger, the image tiles (at small values it just looks like the bottom border gets thicker) [05:28] ushimitsudoki1: had a quick google and couldn't find anything... [05:28] favro: yeah been looking for a while now. here is a screenie of the problem: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?d04024396c.png [05:30] Myrtti, ping [05:31] ushimitsudoki1: only thing I can suggest is to take any color references for the panel out of the theme [05:33] favro: alright thanks much - i am looking into gtkrc-2.0 also seeing if something can be tweaked there [05:35] favro: that did it! it is xthickness and ythickness in the .gtkrc-2.0. set those to 0 and the border is gone [05:36] well done ushimitsudoki1 :) [05:44] can't find a way to install java, any help?? [05:45] Applications > System > Add/Remove [05:45] Install Xubuntu Restricted Extras package [05:47] cody-somerville: no java anywhere, not in add/remove, not in synaptic :| [05:47] Have you the universe repository enabled? [05:48] cody-somerville: no idea about what are you talkin' about [05:48] Applications > System > Software Sources [05:49] !repositories | m_IRC_o [05:49] m_IRC_o: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [05:52] cody-somerville: checked it up, let's see... [06:02] cody-somerville: sun-java6.bin/demo/doc/fonts/javadb/jdk//jre/plugin/source??? which one to choose, plugin? [06:03] * cody-somerville is going to bed. [06:03] you want plugin and jre [06:07] cody-somerville: ok, let's see. Goodnight ;) [06:07] * m_IRC_o leaves the room, falling asleep on the keybo#########òòàò+ === emma_ is now known as emma [08:26] sup [08:26] i will try something weird [08:27] i like e17 windows manager, its all cute but its slow as hell [08:27] at that time i try it with gnome [08:27] i will try it with xfce.. maybe with xfce runs smooth.. what would be very nice [08:27] lets see [08:36] Moo [08:36] Myrtti, woo [08:36] xfce 4.6 beta released [08:36] See xubuntu-devel mailing list annoucement [08:37] Yay [11:00] hello [13:14] hi using icewm in xubuntu and running xfdesktop on top but when i logout it wont logout unless i do killall xfdesktop, Is there a way to stop it from doing so? [13:17] hi using icewm in xubuntu and running xfdesktop on top but when i logout it wont logout unless i do killall xfdesktop, Is there a way to stop it from doing so? [13:17] hi anyone around? [13:18] 54 users all afk? [13:19] salve [13:19] solo inglese? [13:19] italian no? [13:20] can someone help me please [13:20] i don't play alien-arena.... [13:20] !it | v3n [13:20] v3n: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! [13:20] hi using icewm in xubuntu and running xfdesktop on top but when i logout it wont logout unless i do killall xfdesktop, Is there a way to stop it from doing so? [13:21] !repeat princesa [13:21] Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat princesa [13:21] !repeat |princesa [13:21] princesa: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [13:23] hi using icewm in xubuntu and running xfdesktop on top but when i logout it wont logout unless i do killall xfdesktop, Is there a way to stop it from doing so? [13:24] http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/24/howto-load-xfce-menu-with-icewm/ ive followed this tutorial for xfdesktop on icewm but like i said ive not beeing able to logout unless i use kill command [13:26] !it [13:26] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! [13:33] hi using icewm in xubuntu and running xfdesktop on top but when i logout it wont logout unless i do killall xfdesktop, Is there a way to stop it from doing so? [13:36] anyone here, anyone at all? [15:21] hello [15:22] Hey Ben_Cs [15:22] what app is there for cloning websites? [15:22] i mean for offline browsing [15:22] There's wget, it's a CLI app [15:22] how about one with gui? [15:22] gwget? [15:22] Not sure, perhaps gwget can also do it, perhaps there's a Firefox extension [15:22] Can't Firefox do it natively? [15:23] (wget is really easy by the way) [15:24] didn't see that option in firefox [15:25] What if you tick File->Work Offline? [15:25] there's an app for that, let me see if i can remember its name... [15:27] vinze: but i need the website to be on my HD for that! [15:27] !info httrack [15:27] httrack (source: httrack): Copy websites to your computer (Offline browser). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.42.1-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 32 kB, installed size 104 kB [15:28] !info webhttrack [15:28] webhttrack (source: httrack): Copy websites to your computer, httrack with a Web interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.42.1-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 419 kB, installed size 1580 kB [15:28] Ben_Cs, I just ran gwget and it can do it [15:28] !gwget [15:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about gwget [15:28] !find gwget [15:28] Found: epiphany-extension-gwget, gwget [15:29] vinze: i'll check. thanks [15:31] And downloader4x also seems to be able to accomplish it [15:31] !find d4x [15:31] Found: d4x, d4x-common [15:49] vinze: httrak is great. and it also has a web-browser interface [15:49] Cool :) [15:49] vinze:thanks alot! [15:50] Ben_Cs, Odd-rationale pointed it out to you :) [15:51] Odd-rationale: thanks!!! [15:51] :) [15:51] np :) [16:23] HELLO guys. Does xubuntu have any sort of task manager?? firefox crashes are drivin' me mad :@ [16:25] HELLO guys. Does xubuntu have any sort of task manager?? firefox crashes are drivin' me mad :@ [16:29] m_IRC_o: xfce4-taskmanager [16:30] also, condsider htop, console app... [16:31] odd-rationable: hmm what?? [16:33] m_IRC_o: you can start xfce4-taskmanager by entering "xfce4-taskmanager" in a terminal [16:34] m_IRC_o: what i has saying, htop maybe a better app: sudo apt-get install htop [16:34] odd-rationable: hmm I see, thanx. and what about htop? [16:34] then run "htop" in a termina; [16:34] terminal [16:36] just tipo "htop" to run it? [16:36] *tipe [16:36] yes, type htop === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [16:38] Iodd-rationable: ok it's talking about mttfont or something-like-this, do I require it? [16:39] if it's a dep, then yes [16:40] can't understand if it is a dep or not, well I'll install it [16:42] ....damn! htop is kind hard to understand [16:42] ho to Kill firefox process? [16:43] m_IRC_o: just use the arrow keys to highlight a process [16:43] then press f9 [16:43] and then? F9? [16:43] let's see [16:44] well it works, thanx a lot [17:15] hi [17:16] * Cheese_Puff|Lapt needs help installing OS X.3 on a g3 after installing xubuntu [17:39] Hi. My top bar in Xubuntu has dissapeared, and I can't open the console or any program without it. How do I get it back? [17:40] Zaiden, you still got your bottom bar? [17:40] If so, right-click it, select "Customise panel", then click the + [17:40] is your top bar gone too? you may need to do an alt-f2 and run xfce4-panel [17:50] alt-f2 doesn't show anything [17:50] That's odd === [2]Cheese_Puff|L is now known as Cheese [17:51] Can you right-click on the desktop and get a menu? [17:53] Yes it does [17:54] You could select "Create Launcher", configure it with the command "xfce4-panel" and then double-click it [17:59] When I right click the launcher I only get the option for desktop settings [18:00] Zaiden, you've already created the launcher for xfce4-panel? [18:04] I'm trying to help my brother with the problem, and apparently he thought the window that comes up after selecting create launcher wasn't important,s orry [18:04] xD [18:04] And it worked, thank you :D [18:04] Great, my pleasure :) === emma_ is now known as emma [19:56] hi [19:56] Hey darku1 [19:56] i have a problem [19:56] Bring it on ;) [19:56] i want to acceed to the network [19:56] to watch the fiiles [19:56] shared [19:56] ... [19:57] can't find the floder called network:/// [19:57] on ubuntu it works [19:57] but here [19:57] darku1, it's a SAMBA share? [19:57] yes [19:58] Try the second result at http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&btnI=Im+Feeling+Lucky&q=xubuntu+samba [19:58] it's samba and ms [19:58] samba rumba bueno [19:58] ...and cross your fingers for native Samba support in 8.10 :) [19:58] :) [19:59] http://cody.zapto.org/?p=41 :) [20:00] ok [20:00] thx [20:00] My pleasure :) [20:00] brb [20:00] good evening [20:02] tried debian with xfce, and don't see a big cause to move to it from xubuntu. the work feels pretty much the same [20:03] Cool [20:04] In that regard, Ubuntu and its derivatives have become somewhat like Windows: its biggest advantage is its market share and thus support [20:04] As in: if exciting new applications make packages available its most likely for Ubuntu === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [20:09] the debian with xfce was faster I'm assuming? [20:09] probably not by much though... === s_Even is now known as s_Even_away [20:12] linko47, why's that? [20:13] why is debian faster? [20:14] Yeah [20:15] I am not quite sure of the reasons. Possibly because it does not have as many background processes and services running [20:15] :) [20:15] would you say that is the answer? [20:16] linko47: yes, not by much. it's because the debian is bundled with less pre-installed software [20:17] speaking of pre-installed software. I have removed gdm and installed slim. Is this a little overboard? [20:17] Intrepid is apparently quite a bit faster than Hardy [20:17] Infact, I think we've managed to improve boot times by atleast 15 seconds on most hardware. [20:17] * vinnl wets his pants (exited :) [20:17] good good. Speed is one of the key aspects of Xubuntu I love [20:18] Too bad it comes with a reputation of being a last resort :( [20:18] does Alpha 4 demonstrate this increase in speed? [20:18] It should, yes. [20:18] Ah. I need to burn a copy [20:18] Alpha 5 should demonstrate how the live cd will work in lower memory systems again [20:18] xdm is light too [20:21] does Alpha 4 have a nice preview to the new artwork? [20:22] no [20:26] actually i think xubuntu users won't get much news with Intrepid Xubuntu because the xfce release cycle is much slower than of gnome, and so: when Intrepid will be released no new xfce will be available yet. [20:27] unless xfce 4.6 get's released in time :D [20:27] * vinnl crosses his fingers :) [20:27] scheduled by the end of this month... [20:28] i tried to find news on how the development of 4.6 is going. But i couldn't find much... [20:29] The mailinglist is quite active :) [20:29] Odd-rationale: really? where can i find the timetable? [20:29] http://wiki.xfce.org/roadmap_to_46 [20:30] http://wiki.xfce.org/milestones_to_46 [20:30] Ben_Cs: the second link has the schedule... [20:31] Odd-rationale: thanks [20:32] Odd-rationale: actually xfce enjoys stability BECAUSE it's not too fast release cycle. something like debian stability. [20:32] yeah, i agreed [20:33] stability > bleeding-edge [20:33] hello [20:33] hi [20:33] Hey pomada [20:33] Then again, smaller releases with a faster cycle are nice too :) [20:33] yesterday i try like for 2 hours:S to use different themes on [20:33] for xfce [20:34] xfce room guys try to help me but their method didnt work [20:34] is there any other method? [20:34] so you are trying to install a new theme? [20:34] !themes [20:34] Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [20:34] !changethemes [20:34] To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy. Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubottu xfce-themes [20:35] last one... [20:35] !xfce-themes [20:35] Themes for Xfce4 are simply GTK2+ themes which means Gnome themes are also compatible with your xfce4 desktop. To install themes, unpack it in ~/.themes/ To install icons, unpack them to ~/.icons/ - Visit http://www.xfce-look.org/ for all kinds of eyecandy for your Xfce4 desktop! - See also !themes for other GNOME theme sites [20:35] !changethemes-#xubuntu is xfce-themes [20:36] ok, i'll remember that, cody-somerville [20:36] Odd-rationale: the Midori browser project looks nice. it seemes the the xfce goodies is the most extensive native plugins project there is. am i right? [20:36] Or do a Google search for "design desktop xfce" *hinthint* :P [20:36] I've never seen so many cool plugins in my life. [20:37] :) [20:37] Ben_Cs: yes midori looks nice. i wonder how it will compare to epiphany-webkit... [20:37] hi [20:37] Hey sim-value [20:37] !epiphany [20:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about epiphany [20:37] Shame :P [20:37] will i be able to use Xubuntu on a 128 MB ram PC ? [20:37] !info epiphany [20:37] epiphany (source: epiphany): clone of Boulder Dash game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0-1 (hardy), package size 85 kB, installed size 300 kB [20:38] wrong one... [20:38] !find epiphany [20:38] Found: epiphany, epiphany-data, epiphany-extension-gwget, epiphany-browser, epiphany-browser-data (and 4 others) [20:38] !info epiphany-browser [20:38] epiphany-browser (source: epiphany-browser): Intuitive web browser - dummy package. In component main, is optional. Version 2.22.2-0ubuntu0.8.04.5 (hardy), package size 48 kB, installed size 108 kB [20:38] Epiphany webrowser rulez --- [20:38] Odd-rationale: thank i already have that info, and actually thats the problem.. To install themes, unpack it in ~/.themes/... this method does not work for me, i try for about 2 hours its just not working [20:38] i need an alternative method [20:38] sim-value: you should. but don't expect blasting performance... :P [20:38] I dont ... [20:38] Luckily my PC has 370 Mb ram [20:39] ... [20:39] only the one of my brother doesnt [20:39] pomada, there's no alternative method [20:39] pomada: hmm. what themes is this? [20:39] pomada, how are you selecting the theme? [20:39] well so im gonna donwload Xubuntu (without using Compiz) [20:39] vinnl: well, you can extract to /usr/share/themes as root ;) [20:39] Odd-rationale, ah, true, but I wouldn't expect more success there :) [20:39] yeh, good question, how midori will compare to epiphany [20:40] midori seemed to format some pages funny. almost like dillo in some cases [20:40] Doesn't Midori just use WebKit for that? [20:40] So it should render the same as epiphany-webkit [20:40] when midori first came out, i thought it was more like an example of how to use webkit in gtk... [20:41] the *real* gtk webkit broswer to be epiphany... [20:41] Dillo is unusable [20:41] pomada: do you have the link to the theme? [20:41] !gee [20:41] Sorry, I don't know anything about gee [20:41] *upps* [20:41] links beats all... :p [20:42] !changethemes-#xubuntu is xfce-themes [20:42] I'll remember that, Myrtti [20:42] cody-somerville: ^ [20:43] :] [20:43] anything else you'd like to tweak today? [20:44] I'm on a mellow mood, I stayed awake last night and I'm about as mellow as a cooked noodle [20:44] well i'm off to sleep. good night all! [20:44] I just broke up with my lover earlier this week and I'm a train wreck [20:44] Night Ben_Cs [20:45] Odd-rationale: its not just one theme.. what i mean is that i try with over 10 diffferent themes and from xf windog manager and gtk2 as well [20:45] cody-somerville, sorry to hear that :( [20:45] that method is simple not working for me.. its not the theme [20:45] the one that its not working [20:45] pomada, you did select to use the theme in UI Settings right? [20:45] no because it was not even there [20:45] it just does not appear [20:46] any theme i put on the theme directory [20:46] Ah, of course, themes are not going to apply by themselves [20:46] pomada, can you open the Xfce Settings Manager? [20:46] yes [20:46] (Which version of Xubuntu are you using btw?) [20:46] pomada: is it a gtk theme or metcity? [20:47] metacity [20:47] i have gtk and xfwm4 [20:47] as well [20:47] not metcity thats for kde i believe [20:47] GNOME [20:47] ok [20:47] metacity is for gnome... [20:48] Hmm, does anyone know the command for Xfce's UI Settings? [20:48] xfce-setting-show? [20:48] No, that's just the settings manager [20:49] I believe it needs some argument to load specific settings dialog, but I can't figure out which one [20:49] xfce-setting-show ui [20:49] cody-somerville: :-< [20:49] Ah, pomada, what do you get if you run that? [20:49] (Thanks Odd-rationale) [20:50] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LqJ2Hqt3A4 <-- beautiful song [20:50] * cody-somerville is off. [20:50] Bye cody-somerville [20:50] Oh, wait [20:50] cody-somerville, see my question in -devel :) [20:50] vinnl: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce#Commands_for_the_settings_manager [20:51] Odd-rationale: I got: "Xfce settings manager error: no such plugin "u" [20:51] pomada: ui [20:51] Odd-rationale, hey, that's handy! [20:51] ah [20:51] lol [20:52] well it shows my user interface [20:52] pomada, can you select your theme in the list? [20:52] pomada: do you have a theme extracted into ~/.themes right now? [20:53] yes i do [20:53] ah no i cant even see [20:54] pomada: can you pastebin "ls -R ~/.themes" [20:54] the new themes [20:54] !pastebin [20:54] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [20:55] nothing appears [20:55] Odd-rationale: [20:55] Odd-rationale: nothing appears [20:55] its black [20:55] i dont know why [20:55] pomada: returned to prompt? [20:55] do you have permissions to write to the folder? [20:56] maybe cause .themes does not exist.. but just themes without period? [20:56] but does has nothing to do.. or it does? [20:56] it does... [20:56] oh lol [20:56] you need to extract into .themes not themes [20:56] it needs to be a hidden file. : .themes [20:56] ok i will create another dir with .themes [20:57] and .themes needs to be in the root of your home directory [20:58] hence, ~/.themes [20:59] hmmm [20:59] i cant find a /root dir [20:59] on my /home dir [20:59] ok [20:59] i found it [20:59] Root means not in a folder inside your home dir [20:59] omg.. i didnt even had to create it! it was [20:59] there all the time.. :S [20:59] So /home/pomada is the root of your home directory [20:59] (If pomada is your username) [21:00] pomada: i think i messed you up... [21:00] so you need a /home/pomada/.themes [21:00] pomada: not /root/.themes [21:01] an easy way to do it is: mkdir ~/.themes [21:01] Be sure to select View->Show Hidden Files in Thunar (the file manager), otherwise you won't see it [21:02] yeahs thats i mean.. i remember a while ago one guy show me how to use that [21:02] i remember it was control H [21:02] Yep [21:02] pomada: make sure you do not extract to /root/.themes [21:02] huh? [21:02] ahh [21:02] no no [21:02] I'm sorry for the shameless self-promotion, but I've explained the whole process here: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44/ [21:02] i dont even see. a root dir [21:02] in my home dir [21:03] what i mean is that.. this xfce guys told me to CREATE a themes folder on my home directory.. [21:03] they never mention root and they never mention there was already [21:03] i didnt have to create anything [21:04] I think he meant you had to create a .themes directory (note the dot) [21:04] pomada: no. by "root" i did not mean a folder name... [21:04] anyway.. i will try it on my .themes folder that was there all the time [21:04] yeah i understand that [21:04] :| [21:04] but at least you know that root is th home directory for the superuser and that the themes folder was there [21:04] but hide [21:05] pomada: you want it in the .themes folder of your normal user. not of the superuser... [21:05]