| LoCaLMaChIn1 | I know Gnome has one but according to reviews its buggy just curious and see if anyone else in the room has a modem dialer that is like kppp | 00:00 |
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| pomada | hello | 00:16 |
| pomada | i just install a nice font but when i try to make it bigger.. letter 11 instead of 9 | 00:17 |
| pomada | wait | 00:17 |
| pomada | never mind | 00:17 |
| Ghetek | hey guys i want to use rsync to recursively copy all the files from /here/is/my/dir to /here/is/other/dir but i want every file to be deleted from the source after its transfered | 00:45 |
| zoredache | check the rsync man page. I am almost certain I saw an option for that... | 00:45 |
| zoredache | it sounds like a dangerouse thing to do though... | 00:46 |
| Odd-rationale | Ghetek: my not use mv ? | 00:51 |
| bassboi | how do i unrar | 00:55 |
| zoredache | bassboi: start by installing unrar or unrar-free | 01:01 |
| zoredache | I am not sure about fileroller, but I believe a couple of the archivers will handle rar files if the those packages are installed | 01:01 |
| Ben_Cs | good | 22:32 |
| Ben_Cs | Odd-rationale: lot's of people say one of xfce advantages is it's ability of customising. so my question is: is it more customisable than gnome? | 22:40 |
| vinnl | It's customizable differently :P | 22:41 |
| vinnl | In some areas more customizable, in some less | 22:41 |
| vinnl | For example, you can set a list of wallpapers in Xfce by default | 22:41 |
| vinnl | So different wallpapers are shown each time you log in | 22:41 |
| Ben_Cs | vinnl: and gnome doesn't have this ability? | 22:42 |
| vinnl | Not by default, I believe | 22:42 |
| vinnl | Though I haven't used GNOME extensively recently | 22:42 |
| Ben_Cs | i see. good to know | 22:42 |
| vinnl | You're also supposed to be able to do a lot of configuration in GNOME through gconf, so perhaps you can do this from there | 22:43 |
| vinnl | It's not really userfriendly though | 22:43 |
| Ben_Cs | vinnl: neither did i. i use xfce exclusively for about a year. | 22:43 |
| vinnl | I'd say I've been using it for about two years now exclusively :) | 22:43 |
| vinnl | And the year before I used it now and then | 22:43 |
| vinnl | And the year before I used Windows ME :P | 22:43 |
| Ben_Cs | i hope that all goodies projects will continue developing non stop :) | 22:44 |
| vinnl | I hope that all open source projects will continue developing non-stop :) | 22:44 |
| TheSheep | some of them are in pretty early stages of development actually | 22:44 |
| Ben_Cs | vinnl: i installed ubuntu with gnome on a VM just to try out the new gnome, and i must say, i don't see advantages over xfce. xfce has developed so much over the last years | 22:45 |
| vinnl | Well, it is integrated very nicely, I must say :) | 22:45 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: the xfce web browser looks promising | 22:45 |
| vinnl | But indeed, Xfce has made amazing progress, and it's too bad to see so few people aware of that | 22:45 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: you mean midori? | 22:45 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: kalikiana is writing that one :) | 22:46 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: he started about a year ago, I think? | 22:46 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: yes midori | 22:46 |
| TheSheep | or was it two years already? | 22:46 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: what language do they use in goodies projects? | 22:48 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: usually C, C++ and Python | 22:49 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: most of xfce is written in C++ | 22:49 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: nice | 22:49 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: btw, what's best for sys admin: python or perl? | 22:49 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: apples and oranges | 22:50 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: best for doing what exactly? | 22:50 |
| vinnl | Apples and oranges are the easiest to learn, definitely :) | 22:50 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: scripts for system administrating tasks | 22:51 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: bash | 22:51 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: advanced scripts? | 22:51 |
| TheSheep | or any other shell | 22:51 |
| TheSheep | csh, zsh, whatever you prefer | 22:51 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: but for complicated tasks you need perl or python no? | 22:52 |
| Odd-rationale | I find gnome very customizable due to gconf. i don't find it hard to understand at all. I heard talk about xfconf for xfce... anyone know much about that? | 22:53 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: perl is best for text processing | 22:53 |
| vinnl | Odd-rationale, xfconf is coming :) | 22:53 |
| vinnl | Hopefully they listen to Brain who's pushing for settings-migration scripts :) | 22:53 |
| Odd-rationale | vinnl: where can i read up on that? | 22:53 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: when you need to parse something, or convert something, etc. | 22:54 |
| vinnl | Odd-rationale, the Xfce-dev mailinglists I suppose :) | 22:54 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: and python is best for? | 22:54 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: python is a generl-purpose language | 22:55 |
| TheSheep | general-purpose | 22:55 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: although perl can be used for the same tasks as python? | 22:55 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: but calling external programs from python and general flow control is more complicated than in bash :) | 22:56 |
| favro | 22:56 | |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: all turing-complete languages can be used for the same tasks, as long as they have apropriate input/output libraries, I've seen a Brainfuck interpreter written in sed | 22:56 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: it's just easier to do some things in some languages | 22:57 |
| vinnl | lolcode ftw :P | 22:57 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: thanks. i'm going to learn perl in OS course in college, so i better get an edge by starting by myself in this vacation. i also learn again java- haven't used it for several years. c++ i studied the last semester :) | 22:59 |
| Ben_Cs | maybe i shall learn wxWidgets? :) | 23:00 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: personally I like python best, but the fact is they are all pretty similar, at least compared to prolog ;) | 23:00 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: i like java for gui programming. and for faster systems c++ | 23:01 |
| * vinnl is going to learn prolog :) | 23:01 | |
| vinnl | (After Java) | 23:01 |
| TheSheep | y personal language of choice is Python, right after C | 23:02 |
| TheSheep | but that's just me | 23:02 |
| Ben_Cs | i found a very nice tutorials site: http://www.zetcode.com/ | 23:02 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: i like C too. but C++ even better, because it simplifies programming | 23:03 |
| TheSheep | argh, a tutorial that starts with a TIOBE rating can't be any good :/ | 23:03 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: it does what??? | 23:03 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: my favorite summary on C++: http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/ | 23:04 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: it's more natural to me to program in a language that's built on oop thinking | 23:04 |
| vinnl | Checking out Vala is definitely one of my plans | 23:04 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: contrary to common belief, c++ is not even an oo programming language, at least according to 2 definitions out of 3 | 23:05 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: do you oppose every language that has a built-in OOP thinking? | 23:05 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: you can't build thinking into language :) | 23:06 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: but I don't oppose anything | 23:06 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: when a Class is defined - it's oop thinking | 23:06 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: then hq9++ is an OOP language? | 23:06 |
| vinnl | Btw, Ben_Cs, TheSheep: /j #xubuntu-offtopic :) | 23:06 |
| TheSheep | vinnl: right, sorry | 23:07 |
| vinnl | :) | 23:07 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: don't know hq9++ | 23:07 |
| Odd-rationale | I want to / starting to learn javascript and xul... | 23:07 |
| Ben_Cs | vinnl: good to know | 23:07 |
| jwishnie | Anyone know what codecs to add to Xubuntu Hardy to view Apple Quicktime Trailers in Firefox? I have totem-gstreamer totem-mozilla installed | 23:40 |
| Odd-rationale | jwishnie: try installing xubuntu-restricted-extras | 23:40 |
| Odd-rationale | !quicktime | 23:40 |
| jwishnie | restricted extras causes the following to be download: | 23:42 |
| jwishnie | cabextract flashplugin-nonfree java-common libdvdread3 liblame0 libmad0 libxine1-bin libxine1-ffmpeg | 23:42 |
| jwishnie | msttcorefonts odbcinst1debian1 sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin unixodbc unrar | 23:42 |
| jwishnie | nothing appears gstreamer related | 23:42 |
| jwishnie | I had quicktime running under totem-gstreamer in Gutsy.... | 23:42 |
| jwishnie | Would like to stick with gstreamer rather than switch to xine... | 23:43 |
| Odd-rationale | jwishnie: this might have what you;re looking for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats | 23:45 |
| jwishnie | Odd-rationale: thanks, reviewing link now | 23:46 |
| jwishnie | ahh, a link to Medibuntu | 23:47 |
| jwishnie | The weird thing is I have the same set of gstreamer codecs installed under Hardy as Gutsy | 23:48 |
| jwishnie | And what works in Gutsy does not in Hardy... | 23:48 |
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