| lolufail | does the standard mkinitramfs command detect a xfs over lvm over dm-crypt over md-raid setup? | 00:14 |
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| lolufail | heeelo? | 01:40 |
| acemo | hey lolufail | 01:42 |
| acemo | i got it to work :) | 01:42 |
| lolufail | congratz | 01:42 |
| acemo | it was mod_userdir that i needed | 01:42 |
| lolufail | I'm actually looking for help myself ;) | 01:43 |
| acemo | only its <ip>/~username instead of <ip>/username now but thats fine | 01:43 |
| acemo | whats your problem? | 01:43 |
| lolufail | "does the standard mkinitramfs command detect a xfs over lvm over dm-crypt over md-raid setup?" | 01:44 |
| acemo | ok i lost it at mkinitramfs, sorry hope someone else can help you.. you tried your best to help me so i think you should be helped too! <tries to do some research for you> | 01:45 |
| lolufail | ;) | 01:50 |
| lolufail | thanks :) | 01:50 |
| linuxpoet | any ubuntu folks in here familiar with postgresql | 02:03 |
| NCommander | linuxpoet, I am | 02:09 |
| linuxpoet | I need someone who would be willing to give a talk on optimize and configuring postgresql, the ubuntu way | 02:10 |
| NCommander | for what, UDW? | 02:12 |
| linuxpoet | http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ | 02:14 |
| Karamon | How can I begin to troubleshoot a networking issue with ubuntu server 8.10 running it w/VMWare player with the official ubuntu image, I can run the desktop version with no issues but the server edition isn't working for me | 02:17 |
| NCommander | linuxpoet, I can't claim an being an expert on postgres optimization | 02:18 |
| NCommander | I'm sorry | 02:18 |
| linuxpoet | That's ok. I would give the talk myself but I am running the conference :P | 02:19 |
| NCommander | rofl | 02:21 |
| NCommander | I'd also assume I'd need to be in person which would be troublesome unless its based in NYS | 02:21 |
| linuxpoet | NYS? | 02:21 |
| linuxpoet | Oh NY State | 02:21 |
| linuxpoet | actually that isn't as much of a problem, that is what sponsorship is for | 02:21 |
| NCommander | Well, I can give the configuration part | 02:24 |
| NCommander | But I'm not that much of an expert in optimization | 02:24 |
| NCommander | (I do use postgresql in production enviornments, I'm one of the coders of Ubuntu REVU which is Postgres based) | 02:24 |
| * linuxpoet is one of the lead consultants for http://www.commandprompt.com/ | 02:25 | |
| NCommander | I am however a very quick study ;-) | 02:25 |
| Karamon | Anyone know how to troubleshoot a VMWare network issue? eth0 won't come up with some weird errors. | 02:25 |
| linuxpoet | Karamon: perhaps an explanation of the errors would be helpful | 02:26 |
| NCommander | linuxpoet, what extactly did you want in this conference? | 02:27 |
| Karamon | http://pastebin.com/d4c20c99e | 02:28 |
| linuxpoet | Well obviously it is a postgresql conference | 02:28 |
| linuxpoet | but mostly I am trying to show postgresql's flexibility | 02:28 |
| NCommander | I realize that :-P | 02:28 |
| NCommander | I mean what did you want an Ubuntu developer to talk about specifically, I can give configuration (and given some time, optimization) | 02:28 |
| linuxpoet | That is a tough one because obviously linux is linux (for this consideration) | 02:29 |
| linuxpoet | But since IMO Ubuntu is the shiznit I wanted Ubuntu to represent | 02:29 |
| NCommander | Well, Postgres is similar enoughly configured between Ubuntu and Debian | 02:29 |
| NCommander | Wrapping the two together shouldn't be that hard | 02:29 |
| linuxpoet | Karamon: what happens if you /sbin/ifconfig | 02:30 |
| linuxpoet | and I assume this is on the guest? not the host? | 02:30 |
| Karamon | Running the server inside windows ( I think is what your asking ) | 02:31 |
| Karamon | linuxpoet: Only thing that really sucks is I have to hand type out the output | 02:31 |
| linuxpoet | you are running windows as the host? | 02:31 |
| linuxpoet | wow | 02:32 |
| NCommander | Gutsy ;-) | 02:32 |
| Karamon | I had to give up my dedicated box that I used to run my web server on, now I'm trying out the virtual appliance | 02:33 |
| lolufail | does the standard mkinitramfs command detect a xfs over lvm over dm-crypt over md-raid setup? | 02:33 |
| linuxpoet | gutsy is one term for it | 02:34 |
| linuxpoet | or pun | 02:34 |
| Karamon | linuxpoet: http://pastebin.com/d2c59df38 | 02:36 |
| linuxpoet | well that is certainly a non detected eth0 | 02:36 |
| linuxpoet | check your dmesg to see if it sees anything at all | 02:36 |
| Karamon | linuxpoet: http://pastebin.com/d1904e45c | 02:43 |
| linuxpoet | ok it sees it | 02:43 |
| linuxpoet | so try this | 02:43 |
| linuxpoet | ->/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | 02:44 |
| Karamon | eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found | 02:44 |
| lolufail | dmesg | grep eth0 | 02:44 |
| lolufail | oh nevermind ;) | 02:45 |
| lolufail | but wait, that's weird: | 02:46 |
| lolufail | cat dmesg | grep eth0 | 02:46 |
| lolufail | [ 64.136139] e1000: e1000_probe: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection | 02:46 |
| linuxpoet | lolufail: dmesg|grep would have worked too | 02:46 |
| lolufail | tell me where you see "eth0" there? | 02:46 |
| lolufail | the output is forged ;) | 02:47 |
| Karamon | Yeah I have to hand type it, that was a mistake on my part | 02:47 |
| Karamon | I can't cut and paste from a VM appliance | 02:47 |
| lolufail | do a: | 02:48 |
| lolufail | brctl show | 02:48 |
| Karamon | not installed and I can't install it without a network connection :P | 02:48 |
| lolufail | k | 02:48 |
| lolufail | I think your eth0 has been renamed, that's the only thing I can think of | 02:49 |
| lolufail | grep eth /var/log/messages | 02:49 |
| lolufail | grep eth /var/log/kern.log | 02:49 |
| lolufail | what VM software are you using? | 02:51 |
| Karamon | VMWare Player.. 2.0.4 build 93057 | 02:51 |
| Karamon | All refrences in log say eth0 | 02:54 |
| lolufail | hm, I can only speak from my xen experience... if eth0 suddenly disappears, the bridge script failed... | 02:54 |
| lolufail | what does ifconfig -a say? | 02:57 |
| lolufail | any new interfaces? | 02:57 |
| Karamon | Yes there is eth1, but ifup doesn't work says not configured | 03:00 |
| Karamon | How do I configure it? | 03:00 |
| Deeps | edit /etc/network/interfaces | 03:00 |
| Karamon | ... that was strange, but I'm glad it was that simple | 03:01 |
| Karamon | Thanks for the help everyone :) | 03:01 |
| lolufail | np :D | 03:06 |
| lolufail | uhm there is a cache file | 03:06 |
| lolufail | wait | 03:06 |
| lolufail | ah | 03:06 |
| lolufail | yeah | 03:06 |
| lolufail | udev is the evil person | 03:06 |
| lolufail | aaaat | 03:06 |
| lolufail | /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules | 03:07 |
| lolufail | should be an entry making your network eth1 | 03:07 |
| lolufail | ->eth0. | 03:07 |
| lolufail | done. | 03:07 |
| Karamon | updateing/upgrading then I will check it out, thanks :) | 03:08 |
| tarvid | what's the easiest way to get bind9 to start at boot | 03:12 |
| lolufail | I like sysv-rc-conf | 03:15 |
| lolufail | though it should start automatically if im not mistaken | 03:15 |
| tarvid | it should | 03:16 |
| nodoubt | can bind run correctly from var/lib/named/etc ? is this a newbie friendly location for bind to live? | 03:18 |
| tarvid | lolufail, puzzled. restart at 20:58:04 | 03:28 |
| lolufail | hm? | 03:28 |
| tarvid | 21:27:07 bind starts (manually) | 03:28 |
| tarvid | sysv marked for 2,3,4,5 | 03:28 |
| tarvid | no " bind" messages inbetween | 03:29 |
| lolufail | tarvid: hm. | 03:30 |
| lolufail | well, are you in one of those runelvels ;) ? | 03:31 |
| tarvid | I am in gnome and bind9 looks like mysql, cvsd, ntop in sysv but bind9 does not start automatically but starts manually | 03:32 |
| lolufail | sry, I dont know. I'm more a gentoo guy ;) | 03:33 |
| lolufail | rc-status would be helpful ;) | 03:33 |
| tarvid | how do I get that | 03:35 |
| lolufail | you dont | 03:35 |
| lolufail | gentoo tool :P | 03:35 |
| lolufail | did you check all the logs for messages at boot time coming from bind? | 03:36 |
| tarvid | there are none | 03:36 |
| tarvid | there is an amazing amount of crap I could probably live without | 03:36 |
| tarvid | bind may be stuck behind something else like winbindd | 03:36 |
| tarvid | rc-alert is impressively long | 03:38 |
| tarvid | I guess I can get used to starting it manually until I get around to reloading | 03:44 |
| tarvid | several upgrades without a reload and this is the box where things get vetted | 03:45 |
| tarvid | i set bind up as a caching webserver because my upstream server is funky | 03:45 |
| favro | I use an old comp at home for a file server - is it healthy to have the hard disks spinning down when not in use? | 03:47 |
| tarvid | favro, an ancient argument | 03:50 |
| tarvid | I never spin down | 03:51 |
| tarvid | but I have had a few hard drive failures | 03:51 |
| tarvid | I suspect there is more risk in spinning up and down is greater than leaving them spinning | 03:52 |
| favro | tarvid: I changed it in bios this morn and later I accessed one drive and it fired up with a grating noise... | 03:52 |
| tarvid | backup now | 03:52 |
| favro | so I'm concerned | 03:52 |
| tarvid | get another drive | 03:52 |
| favro | tarvid: already done | 03:52 |
| tarvid | good man | 03:53 |
| tarvid | raspy power outages seen particularly dangerous too | 03:53 |
| tarvid | I put all my systems on a UPS so the ups and downs are minimized | 03:53 |
| favro | my disks on the little server can go a few days without being accessed so I wanted to save some power | 03:55 |
| tarvid | little used and stable data might be served well by flash | 03:56 |
| tarvid | looking at little falls boards for low power servers | 03:57 |
| favro | that's why I'm in two minds - it is a file server/torrent box/mythtv backend - it can be busy for days or idla for days | 03:58 |
| favro | *idle | 03:58 |
| tarvid | intel little falls should be good for that | 03:59 |
| tarvid | haven't looked for low power hard disks | 04:00 |
| tarvid | capturing video can get huge | 04:00 |
| tarvid | lolufail, thanks for the counsel, installed bum, it's cute | 04:06 |
| lamont | ScottK: how is it that your debdiff doesn't change debian/rules? | 05:32 |
| ScottK | lamont: Because I stared at your debian/rules for a while and then concluded I didn't understand it well enough to integrate it. | 05:33 |
| lamont | heh. ok. | 05:33 |
| lamont | you thinking /usr/sbin for it? | 05:33 |
| ScottK | lamont: I left this to you (we've discussed this a while ago) | 05:33 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 05:33 |
| ScottK | I tried to give them specific enough names that would be OK. | 05:34 |
| lamont | and I forgive you for having a changelog diff in your diff. :-) | 05:37 |
| ScottK | Well it applied at the time I uploaded it ... | 05:38 |
| ScottK | Easy enough to edit out anyway. | 05:38 |
| lamont | yeah, but having changelog in commits is guaranteed non-mergabliilty | 05:38 |
| lamont | yep | 05:38 |
| lamont | [Scott Kitterman] | 05:38 |
| lamont | * Add postfix-add-{filter,policy} scripts for easier integration of | 05:38 |
| lamont | same. LP: #247332 | 05:38 |
| ScottK | You and your new fangled VCS stuff.... Bah. | 05:39 |
| ScottK | Great. | 05:39 |
| lamont | committed in 2.5.4-2, and building to test here | 05:39 |
| ScottK | Great. Did you add Cocker's dechroot script? | 05:39 |
| lamont | meh | 05:39 |
| lamont | I added your debdiff from your last comment on 247332 | 05:40 |
| ScottK | It was suggested to me on postfix-users that such a script would be a good idea. I said I'd talk to you about it. I've done that. | 05:40 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 05:40 |
| lamont | heh. I haven't seen his script, so I don't exactly have enough to render an opinion on the subject | 05:40 |
| lamont | OTOH, I do need to go get some shuteye so that I can wake up in the morning and all that | 05:41 |
| ScottK | Bah. That's what coffee is for. | 05:47 |
| lukehasnoname | I just ate a snickers, drank a Rock Star Espresso, and am considering staying up all night | 05:57 |
| lukehasnoname | but if I do that, I want to be productive. | 05:57 |
| lukehasnoname | like learning Python, or PyGTK, or packaging debs | 05:58 |
| _ba | can someone help me out there with a santity check i'm trying to firewall my box but when i am applying rules to incoming traffic i loose connectitivy out does this make any sense? | 08:10 |
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| spiekey | hello! | 11:02 |
| spiekey | i would like to use pidstat but i read i need to build my own kernel for it. | 11:03 |
| spiekey | ...With its -d option, pidstat can report I/O statistics, providing that you have a recent Linux kernel (2.6.20+) with the option CONFIG_TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING compiled in... | 11:04 |
| spiekey | however, there is no such option in the current 2.6.25 release | 11:04 |
| spiekey | any idea? | 11:04 |
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| nxvl | good morning everyone! | 13:00 |
| Koon | hey nxvl, I guess congratulations are in order | 13:02 |
| * Koon orders Pisco for the whole table | 13:03 | |
| zul | hey hxvl | 13:04 |
| nxvl | Koon: heh, thank you | 13:08 |
| Koon | coffeedude: hello Jerry. That's Thierry here. Did you have time to look at our pam configuration issue ? | 13:22 |
| coffeedude | Koon: Hey. I'm working on it. Just not done yet. Is thre a bug in LP on it I should update ? Or just send you mail? | 13:23 |
| Koon | coffedude: bug 262264 | 13:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 262264 in likewise-open "Fails to join a domain: Unknown pam configuration" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262264 | 13:24 |
| coffeedude | Thanks. | 13:24 |
| Koon | coffeedude: if you want to take advantage of the new pam-updating tools of intrepid and need some introduction to them, I can set something up with someone that knows them better than I do | 13:28 |
| coffeedude | Koon: Thanks. I might do that. Just need a bit more time to dig into it. | 13:28 |
| dendrobates | Koon: have you retested likewise-open in the last few days? | 14:24 |
| Koon | dendrobates: I tested the one in intrepid a couple of days ago | 14:33 |
| dendrobates | Koon: I just wanted to make sure it wasn't fixed in Steve's last upload of the pam stuff. | 14:34 |
| Koon | dendrobates: I retested it just before filig the bug. But there may have been another pam upload after | 14:34 |
| * nijaba takes a break | 16:33 | |
| nijaba | I am dropping Stella at a friend and will be back | 16:34 |
| tacone | hello, virt-manager I get "Paravirtualized" grayed out. doesn't that work with qemu ? | 16:34 |
| Deeps | dont think so | 16:34 |
| tacone | ok, thanks | 16:35 |
| Deeps | you'll want kvm or vmware for paravirtualisation i think | 16:35 |
| nijaba | oops that was the wrong chan | 16:35 |
| tacone | Deeps: I installed kvm, but it doesn't show in the list. I only have xen and qemu | 16:35 |
| tacone | oh, maybe I need a modified kernel on the host machine ? I thought it was about the guest kernel. | 16:36 |
| Deeps | afaik kvm support's integrated into the stock ubuntu kernel | 16:40 |
| Deeps | i could be wrong | 16:40 |
| tacone | uhm. weird. ok let's leave it alone. fully virt will be ok as well. | 16:41 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #262691 in openssh (main) "can't login with a special character password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262691 | 16:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #262715 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "missing ref in mysql library causes iodbc to fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262715 | 17:51 |
| zul | mathiaz: ping | 18:30 |
| mathiaz | zul: sure I'm around ! | 18:30 |
| zul | mathiaz: for #262715 mysql_odbc_escape_string has been removed in 5.0.67 according to the release notes should I put that as wont-fix? | 18:30 |
| mathiaz | zul: well -it seems that odbc is broken then | 18:33 |
| mathiaz | zul: the bug may be invalid for mysql-dfsg-5.0, but valid for odbc | 18:33 |
| zul | mathiaz: *sigh* :) | 18:33 |
| mathiaz | zul: it seems that myodbc would be the correct package. | 18:34 |
| zul | mathiaz: ok, we should update that package then | 18:35 |
| * mathiaz nods | 18:35 | |
| zul | ill put it on my todo list | 18:35 |
| macd_ | mathiaz, here? | 19:32 |
| mathiaz | macd_: yes | 19:36 |
| macd_ | I just caught up with the libgems discussion | 19:40 |
| macd_ | actually be back in a sec, work calls | 19:40 |
| macd_ | sorry | 19:40 |
| zul | lallala i hate libtool | 19:48 |
| soren | I need a DNS wiz to explain something to me. | 21:21 |
| soren | I've registered a domain, jungberg.dk. If I do a "host -t ns jungberg.dk", I get the correct response. | 21:22 |
| soren | However... | 21:22 |
| soren | If I do what I thought a DNS server would do to find that answer for me, I come up empty. | 21:22 |
| soren | Here's what I think it does: | 21:22 |
| soren | It finds the name server for the .dk tld. | 21:23 |
| soren | ...so I do a "host -t ns dk.", and get [abclps].nic.dk. | 21:23 |
| soren | Then, it asks one of those for the NS for jungberg.dk. | 21:24 |
| soren | ...so I do a "host -t ns jungberg.dk. a.nic.dk". | 21:24 |
| soren | And that's where my world falls apart. | 21:24 |
| soren | I get jungberg.dk has no NS record | 21:24 |
| soren | I get the same result if I ask [bclps].nic.dk. | 21:24 |
| soren | whiskey... tango... foxtrot... | 21:25 |
| soren | Can someone explain this to me? | 21:25 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #262789 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.0.list] failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262789 | 21:26 |
| soren | Can I at least hear someone say that "yes, that really *does* look weird"? | 22:01 |
| jmedina | Yes, that really does look weird, dont say thanks... | 22:01 |
| soren | jmedina: Don't worry. I won't :) | 22:07 |
| nxvl | \o/ | 22:07 |
| fromport | soren: since a.nic.dk is not authoritive name server for your domain, it will respond with the "no NS record" | 22:40 |
| fromport | only host -t ns jungberg.dk ns[1 till 5].gratisdns.dk. will answer that posive | 22:40 |
| qhartman | so, I've been working with getting some Xen stuff going, and I noticed today that my hardy VM's stopped in the boot process just after "Reloading OpenBSD Secure Shell server's configuration sshd" | 22:45 |
| qhartman | I figured it was a Xen thing, but I rebooted the host, and now it's doing the same thing. Any thoughts? | 22:45 |
| qhartman | I can still get in via SSH, but logging into the local tty is impossible. | 22:46 |
| qhartman | huh, it looks like it is somehow related to Xen.... when I forced a reboot some error messages including "xm " flashed by real quick... wheee! | 22:47 |
| soren | fromport: Erm.. No. | 22:56 |
| soren | fromport: Ok, answer me this: How did you come up with ns[1-5].gratisdns.dk? | 22:57 |
| soren | fromport: (supposed) answer: based on the ns responses from a.nic.dk, right? | 22:57 |
| soren | *those* are the ones, I'm not receiving. | 22:57 |
| soren | And *that's* what I don't get. | 22:57 |
| soren | fromport: It wouldn't work if the only way to find out which server was the authoritative one, was to ask the authoritative one. | 22:58 |
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