=== whaletales is now known as aptanet [01:28] Can't get xubuntu to install. hangs loading libc6-deb [01:28] From what I've read this is a dma issue? can't figure out how to enable dma. Using alternate iso [01:29] Can't get ubuntu hardy to install. hangs loading libc6-deb [01:30] oopss... xubuntu [01:56] having a problem with getting in to linux, Grub hangs and i get three beeps, 30 seconds go by, i get three more beeps, comp shuts down [01:58] wait, amazingly it let me in to the menu this time [03:03] Will someone help me? [03:08] ok, been going all over the place for the past hour trying to get my sound card to work [03:08] sound blaster pro, didn't have net when i did the xubuntu install [03:25] is there anyone in here? [03:25] . [03:26] any idea how to install sound cards? [03:27] if you install and reboot it should be shown in lspci - then right click your volume control and select the new card - generally is the way [03:28] lspci doen't show it [03:29] i have no volume control to right click on [03:29] do you no what model card it is? [03:30] i'm preety sure it's a soundplaster pro [03:30] either that or a sound blaster 16 [03:31] if you right click the panel you can add a vol control [03:31] trying that [03:33] do you have onboard sound? [03:33] i gives me the button on the task panel, but i can;t click on volume control when i right click, it's greyed out [03:33] yes i do [03:34] try lspci | grep audio to see what the system sees [03:35] i get nothing [03:36] try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart [03:37] lspci | grep audio [03:37] i don't have a dir "alsa [03:37] i do have alsa utils tho [03:38] asla-utlis* [03:38] utils( [03:38] Hey Favro [03:38] hi! [03:38] I need ur help again [03:39] RollingD34th: what does ls /etc/ini.d | grep alsa say [03:39] shoot [03:39] used /ect/init.d/asla-utils restart then lspci | grep audio [03:39] got nothing [03:39] i'll try that [03:39] So I ran that memtest last night all night and my computer passed all the tests. [03:40] BiNaRyCoDe: did you try the other vid card? [03:40] i get /etc/ini.d: no such file ot directory [03:41] Ya, and I still can't seem to boot up right but I just booted up with recovery kernal and I noticed that the only thing linux doesnt want to load is my hardware drivers....it cant seem to do it.... [03:42] forgot the "ls" [03:42] i get nothing with that either [03:42] RollingD34th: you can copy and paste by highlighting the text in chat then middle clicking in terminal - saves spelling mistakes :) [03:42] working on two comps [03:42] k [03:42] the linux one has 100meg of ram and is too slow trying to diag and chat [03:42] hehe [03:43] i double check everything, i just didn't see the "ls" when i looked [03:43] BiNaRyCoDe: did you use the acpi=force command at grub? [03:43] Favro: is there any way to figure out what the kernal is not wanting to load when it loads the hardware drivers? [03:43] no [03:43] I will [03:43] BiNaRyCoDe: you need to remember [03:45] So at Grub bootup I press e then select kernal then e again? [03:45] yep [03:46] sweet [03:46] RollingD34th: any luck? [03:46] nope [03:46] i get nothing [03:46] BiNaRyCoDe: we can make it so you don't have to do that every boot [03:46] really [03:47] RollingD34th: can you install from the net on that comp? [03:47] BiNaRyCoDe: yep [03:47] yeah [03:47] well I already added the parameter acpi=force to the kernal, so now do I press enter? [03:47] RollingD34th: sudo apt-get install alsa [03:47] BiNaRyCoDe: enter then b [03:48] alsa-base is already the newest version [03:49] RollingD34th: funny you have no cards showing then - the soundblasters should be supported by default [03:49] ok, so now its loading with the Ubuntu loading screen gui....I and suprizingly it ran through that like bread and butter! [03:49] i dunno, it worked under winblows ME [03:49] RollingD34th: can you disable the onboard in bios? [03:50] yeah, but it [03:50] it's enabled [03:50] disable the onboard in bios? [03:50] i can, do you want me to? [03:50] RollingD34th: yep - it's not happening as it is [03:50] Favro: it ran through the gui but after the loading screen loads up all the way, I get a blank screen and it seems like my computer is not loading anything... [03:51] * RollingD34th reboots, this may take a while [03:51] BiNaRyCoDe: is that with other vid card? [03:51] ya.... [03:51] but at least it runs way faster [03:51] it ran through that loader really fast [03:52] Favro: do I need to run xconfigure again? [03:52] It seems, yet again I'm having a problem with the videocard -- linux seems to not be able to detect it [03:53] I'll try another video card [03:53] ok, disabled via bios, now starting up [03:53] BiNaRyCoDe: if you put in a new card the config file will be wrong for it [03:54] thats tru [03:54] so yo will have to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again [03:54] awwww....damn [03:55] BiNaRyCoDe: it's not hard :) [03:55] Favro: would a sis 6326 vid card work do ya think ? :) [03:56] BiNaRyCoDe: sis will work but not well - not good linux support for them - didn't you have a nvidia there doing nothing? [03:57] ok, logged in, waiting to load [03:57] Let me find my vid cards....I have a lot of old ones.... [03:57] pc speaker works....[monoton voice] yay [/voice] [03:58] RollingD34th: all good then ? [03:59] Favro: How bout a VOODOO videocard? [03:59] no, the pc speaker only beeps [03:59] BiNaRyCoDe: you have to use a diff kernel for them - they are old [03:59] ok how bout a trident..... [03:59] RollingD34th: try right click vol control [04:00] i did, Volume control is still greyed out [04:00] BiNaRyCoDe: might be the same - I'll have a quick check [04:01] RollingD34th: try the lspci | grep audio again [04:02] ok [04:02] still does nothing [04:03] i tired "alsa reload mixer" that tells me i have no modules loaded [04:04] RollingD34th: finding the module name atm [04:04] Here is the videocards I have to work with: Nvidia Velocity 128, Diamond Monster 3d II, Voodoo v32316, and trident 3dimage 9750 [04:04] k [04:04] RollingD34th: alsamixer in terminal and turn all up [04:05] alsamixer: finction snd+ctrl_open failed for defualt: No such file or directory [04:05] Favro: how do I xconfigure again? I'll write it down so I wont have to ask again...? [04:05] RollingD34th: sudo modprobe snd-sb16 [04:06] BiNaRyCoDe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again [04:06] nothing [04:06] just goes to another line [04:06] RollingD34th: alsamixer again [04:06] same error [04:07] RollingD34th: does it show in sudo lshw [04:07] Favro: Do I have to be at the Unix login command prompt to run the sudo command? [04:07] BiNaRyCoDe: there or a terminal [04:08] BiNaRyCoDe: after you have logged in [04:08] ok.....umm....how am I suppose to log in when my system cant even boot up? Sorry for being stupid [04:08] BiNaRyCoDe: and tridents seem to not be well supported either [04:09] BiNaRyCoDe: you said it booted before? [04:10] Well it ran the boot screen dealio but after it was blank...and last night you got me to the login screen... [04:10] BiNaRyCoDe: that was with the acpi=force command at grub [04:10] what heading should it be under? [04:11] RollingD34th: pci I beleive [04:11] Ya but I thought you had me do a key combination to get to the login prompt..... [04:11] ohh BiNaRyCoDe ctrl+alt+bksp [04:12] was that when I was loading the kernal or when I was at the grub boot loader? [04:12] I have PCI with ISA and PCMCIA 0 and 1 under it [04:13] both PCMCIA are cardbus bridges [04:13] the ISA is isa bridge, FireStar Plus [04:14] RollingD34th: try sudo lshw | grep sound [04:14] it's searching this time [04:14] BiNaRyCoDe: when it wouldn't paint the desktop [04:14] i got nothing [04:14] new line [04:15] RollingD34th: has the card been in the system long or is it a recent addition? [04:15] factory [04:15] so very long [04:16] RollingD34th: since the system can't find it I would open the box - remove the card - reinsert card - see if new contacts help [04:16] intregrated to the mother board [04:17] RollingD34th: sorry my bad - the onboard is your soundblaster? [04:17] i have installed xubuntu on a laptop and am trying to configure wireless to work on it. can someone help me with this? [04:17] yeah, it's an old laptop, came with it [04:17] !wireless [04:17] !wireless [04:17] ndiswrapper is the best thing ever for that [04:18] but how can i install itr without a net connect? [04:18] RollingD34th: oops - you'll have to enable it in the bios - I thought you had two cards for some reason... [04:18] d/l to usb drive [04:18] and which encryptoion does it support? [04:18] favro, ok, rebooting [04:18] Favro: I gotta go do something right now...probably be an hour....so hopefully your still here after an hour...if not...well then talk to ya next time...AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [04:19] i think it support them all depening on the driver you use [04:19] BiNaRyCoDe: :) [04:20] should i worry about the dma or irq settings? [04:21] or the fm i/o and mpu i/o address? [04:23] RollingD34th: to find out I need the comp brand/model [04:23] compaq 1255 [04:24] presario [04:24] it's from before HP bought out compaq [04:25] k [04:28] ok, back up [04:28] RollingD34th: this bloke figured it outhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-232876.html [04:28] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-232876.html [04:29] http://www.putzin.net/linux/compaq/ [04:29] doesn't exist any more [04:30] neither does the other website he mentions [04:30] k [04:32] found a guide in the full version of the thread tho [04:32] gonna try that [04:36] looking at the full version i can actually understand that we's saying [04:37] how do i add a line to /etc/modules [04:37] actually, i don't have a /ect/modules... [04:38] RollingD34th: What are you trying to do? [04:38] his third post [04:39] hello. i just installed xubuntu. can someone please tell me how to install themes? [04:40] RollingD34th: if you are trying to force the load of a kernel module, you do want to put it in /etc/modules [04:41] yeah, i just realize modules is a file, not a dir [04:41] qwerty121: go to Applications->System->Synaptic Package manager, from there you can install many different software packages including themes [04:42] RollingD34th: Yeah, /etc/modules is a file where you can list kernel modules to be loaded. /etc/modprobe.d/ is a directory where you can add files containing configuration settings for any loadable modules [04:43] ok, how do i add to /etc/modules? [04:43] RollingD34th: gksu mousepad /etc/modules [04:43] jwishnie: i have donwloaded a theme from xfce-look.org...how can i install that one? [04:44] qwerty121: I've never done it that way. On an Ubuntu/Debian based system it's best to use DEB package files to install software [04:44] !theme [04:44] qwerty121: what theme did you download [04:44] ? [04:47] ok, tried that, now rebooting [04:47] luck [04:50] * RollingD34th crosses his fingers [04:51] RollingD34th: did you make the file /etc/modprobe.d/sound with options snd-es18xx isapnp=0 port=0x220 irq=9 as the line in it? [04:51] yes [04:51] :) [04:51] then went in to setup and changed the sound irq to irq9 [04:51] top job then [04:52] we'll see if it work [04:52] if i does, i'm having an issue with grub [04:56] where can i find a sound file? [05:00] RollingD34th: /usr/share/sounds [05:06] slow computer is slow [05:07] Amen Hallelujah Peanut Butter [05:07] * RollingD34th has sound [05:07] thanks favro [05:09] heh, if i do anything while the song is playing, it stops playing [05:09] then it has to buffer [05:09] should be good enough as a mp3 player until i get some ram for it [05:13] how do i view windows comps on my network? [05:26] Hi [05:26] How do i set up new monitor on my computer? [05:27] I ised to use 19" and I switched to 15" and I want to change sceeen settings [05:27] There are no Modeline things i xorg.conf anymore [05:27] and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing [05:27] but settin some default settings [05:29] sudo displayconfig-gtk show only 640x480 resolution and i can`t do nothing with it [05:29] I am worried to damage my new monitor if I connect it to a machine with higher frequencies! [05:34] BiNaRyCoDe: did you try to send me a file? [05:34] no, I was trying to chat [05:35] odd way to do it [05:35] sorry, it said chat [05:35] im using mirc [05:35] k - no biggy [05:36] bbl :) [06:34] Has anyone tried the xubuntu derivative WorkBench? [09:12] hello im looking for help to compile the synaptics xorg-module under ubuntu. can anyone help? compilation works fine, but X doesnt load it :-/ [09:34] The alternate installer claims to aid "pre-configured OEM systems". Where can i get more details? [09:35] !oem [09:35] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [09:35] g00se: basically it asks for username and password at first boot [09:35] afaik the alternate installer is the debian installer - it's not live - so maybe somewhere debian - wiki or #debian maybe [09:36] ok ubuntu has that covered then === whaletales is now known as aptanet [10:22] I'll look thanks [10:24] favro: "afaik the alternate installer is the debian installer". Yes there was mention of that. wols: are you there? ;-) [10:59] hi === Rakeer13 is now known as Rakeer [11:47] How can I get the network manager to remember the password? [11:50] Where can I manually download ubuntu packages? [12:02] Rakeer, you can use apt-get -d (download only) or you can enter the repository url in your webbrowser [12:52] hi [12:52] I have the following card: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 83) [12:52] the sound doesnt work eventhough the card is detected [12:53] can anyone help me? [12:53] hi anyone here? [12:57] Im here [12:57] Hmm...let me think [12:58] Are you using a laptop or a computer?And what version of Xubuntu do you have? [13:05] Niksoni, sorry for the late reply [13:06] Niksoni, Im using a laptop [13:06] Hmm... [13:06] hello world ! [13:06] the version is hardy heron [13:07] System.out.println "(hello world !)" [13:07] Did you turn on your volume? [13:07] Niksoni, I have done many google search. but no result [13:07] yes the volume is max [13:07] backwaters: check it alsamixer that all channels are enabled [13:07] backwaters: type 'alsamixer' in terminal to start it [13:08] TheSheep, checked. all are at the max. [13:08] backwaters: and none is 'muted'? [13:08] Yes,it might be muted [13:08] backwaters: type in terminal 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp', do you hear noise? [13:09] i got some weird problem [13:09] TheSheep, how to check if one is muted? [13:09] Omar: Yes? [13:09] backwaters: look whether the letters under the volume bar in alsamixer are green or red, 'm' switches them [13:09] on the logon screen and on xfce interface text is written in big characters ( 72 pt or sthg like that ) [13:10] TheSheep, ok checking [13:11] Omar: uhhh...i never had that problem,let me think... [13:11] on the logon screen and on xfce interface text is written in big characters ( 72 pt or sthg like that ) [13:11] Niksoni: It's just on my laptop [13:12] Niksoni: Gnome's working fine [13:13] Oh,yeah i have this question,why is it called Xubuntu when it's using Gnome? [13:13] Shouldn't it use the XFCE Environment? [13:13] TheSheep, they are not muted. I cannot hear any sound when typed in the command you have said. [13:13] backwaters: try to restart your computer,maybe that will help [13:14] Niksoni: it's not using gnome [13:14] backwaters: and no error? [13:14] Niksoni, i have restarted many times. no difference. there is no errors either [13:14] TheSheep: i know,but the interface looks like Gnome [13:15] dmesg | grep sound retuns nothing [13:15] backwaters: try grep snd [13:15] TheSheep, same [13:16] TheSheep, but lsmod | grep snd gives a lot of lines. [13:16] about 10 lines [13:16] backwaters: yeah [13:17] backwaters: maybe search for your soundcard on the forums [13:17] backwaters: and maybe on the bugtracker too [13:17] I tried the xubuntu live CD and also installed xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu but always the same problem [13:18] TheSheep, did lots of search. but it seems no one got it working. not too much discussion on this card either [13:18] :( [13:19] TheSheep, I chose alsa as my sound sys but there are many modules with the name oss loaded. is this normal? [13:19] backwaters: yes, alsa emulates oss [13:19] oh ok [13:20] backwaters: what is the brand/model of the laptop? [13:20] favro, Compaq, Presario, B1900 [13:22] try running a virtual system [13:22] Then install any other Linux distributions (i recommend ubuntu) and see if it works there [13:22] that's not a common laptop backwaters [13:23] I have to be honest here,i never heard about that types of Laptops,still i recommend you try a virtual system [13:23] Niksoni sorry i wasn't here [13:24] Niksoni : I'm using Gnome on Ubuntu, but i tried xfce desktop for better performances [13:24] favro, not? I didn't know that. it is 2 years old. every other problems has been fixed the only problem remaining is the sound. [13:24] Niksoni : And i did use xubuntu's live cd on this laptop to check it before installing xfce [13:24] Niksoni, I tried Ubuntu and Knoppix. both doesn't give me sound [13:25] I just googled "compaq presario 81900" - less than 10 reults... [13:25] favro, here is url: http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/notebooks/0,39050488,39269560p,00.htm [13:26] i got a fw pages of google result! [13:26] backwaters: does sudo lshw give it another name? [13:26] favro, it is B9100 not 81900 [13:26] favro, let me check [13:26] ahh [13:27] favro, here is what that command says: product: Presario B1900 (RF455PA#UUF) [13:27] k [13:28] so it is 81900 then... [13:29] favro, no it starts with B : product: Presario B1900 (RF455PA#UUF) [13:30] ohhh [13:30] backwaters: I'm reading here - http://www.linux-laptop.net/compaq.html [13:32] favro, my laptop is not there. I will add once my sound is good :) [13:32] :) [13:33] favro, most ppl have the AC97 audio. this is working fine on another pc i have [13:34] but mine comes with same strange hw [13:35] backwaters: has good comments as a solution - http://prash-babu.blogspot.com/2008/02/sound-problems-in-ubuntu-gutsy-710.html [13:35] favro, checking [13:36] favro, System->Preferences->Sound where is it in the XFCE? [13:36] mine is Xubuntu [13:39] backwaters: add the sound applet to the panel and right click is how I do it [13:39] mixer [13:40] backwaters: I'm not on xubuntu atm - someone might offer? [13:40] favro, when i click on the applet. it shows a blak window [13:41] how do i access the other computers on my network? [13:41] applications-settings-system settings-sound? [13:42] DarkTan: that was for backwaters - you need samba [13:42] !samba [13:42] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [13:42] favro, ok i got the controls on the applet. moved all to the max. but still no sound [13:43] cooperate with windows ? [13:43] ok, gonne try that [13:43] networkin with windows pc ? [13:43] how do i kill the shared folders window, it's been trying to do something for 8 hours now [13:43] backwaters: from that post change the autodetect setting if it's there - if not that post isn't gonna help [13:44] omar: yeah, getting all me music of my XP server [13:44] the autodetect is not here. [13:44] favro, the autodetect is not here. [13:46] backwaters: seems it's realtek sound [13:46] favro, you mean my card is realtek ? how do you check it? ATI have no driver for this in their site [13:47] backwaters: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269532 [13:47] favro, im reading it [13:48] DarkTan sorry i can't help you i always had this problem too :D i thought samba was the solution [13:48] DarkTan try the system monitor [13:52] so anybody knows how to reduve character size in xfce desktop and logon screen ? [13:53] favro, but it doesn't say what is the solution. [13:53] backwaters: from here - http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main - realtek aren't supported - whch seems strange 'cause they're common [13:55] thx omar [13:55] and favro [13:55] favro, they have my card here http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-ATI [13:55] DarkTan ur welcome, did it works for you ? [13:56] i killed the shared folders, i can see the computer from my windows machine [13:56] now trying to find the windoes comp from the linux comp [13:56] backwaters: you need to find which chipset you have now [13:57] favro, how to find that? [13:57] backwaters: never had to do that before - sudo lshw would be my first go [13:59] DarkTan: did - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - help? [13:59] favro, ah here is what it says: [13:59] description: Audio device [13:59] product: IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller [13:59] vendor: ATI Technologies Inc [13:59] physical id: 14.2 [13:59] bus info: pci@0000:00:14.2 [13:59] version: 01 [13:59] width: 64 bits [13:59] clock: 33MHz [13:59] capabilities: bus_master cap_list [13:59] configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=64 module=snd_hda_intel [13:59] !paste | backwaters [13:59] backwaters: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [14:00] favro, sorry [14:00] k :) [14:00] driver=HDA Intel latency=64 module=snd_hda_intel [14:01] backwaters: in a terminal sudo modprobe -v snd_hda_intel [14:02] favro, nothing happens [14:02] favro, nothing returned [14:03] ok, i got to shared folders, i get an error telling me i need to install samba of nfs, i already installed samba [14:03] backwaters: lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel [14:04] favro, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/41551/ [14:05] k [14:05] ahh, need a reboot [14:07] backwaters: what does lspci | grep ausio say please? [14:07] oops [14:07] lspci | grep aud backwaters io [14:08] lspci | grep audio bac - sorry :) [14:08] favro, nothig [14:08] lspci | grep audio [14:08] but if I say Audio [14:08] yahhh :) - sorry backwaters [14:09]