[00:36] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[00:37] <MachinTrucChose> can someone tell me if I can force single-logon-per-user in Kubuntu? It's for my parents, I've given up on explaining the concept of sessions. From a user-friendliness perspective, I gotta say, it's silly to have something as confusing as multiple logons per single users
[00:38] <MachinTrucChose> There's gotta be an option for this somewhere...right?
[00:40] <kuresuna> MachinTrucChose: go to Kmenu > system settings
[00:41] <kuresuna> click the advanced tab and click login manager
[00:41] <kuresuna> click on the convenience tab
[00:41] <kuresuna> and click the administrator mode button
[00:41] <kuresuna> provide the administrator password
[00:41] <kuresuna> and tick the auto-login checkbox
[00:41] <MachinTrucChose> auto-login works for a single user
[00:41] <MachinTrucChose> i gave them each their own account...and i also use it myself
[00:42] <MachinTrucChose> it IS a multi-user computer, i just don't want user "Todd" to be able to have 3-4 sessions
[00:43] <MachinTrucChose> as it is, everytime I use the computer and lock my session, they just start a new one instead of selecting their existing one
[00:43] <kuresuna> maybe
[00:43] <kuresuna> in sessions manager in the advance tab
[00:43] <kuresuna> in the 'on lgin ' section
[00:44] <kuresuna> click restoe previous session
[00:44] <MachinTrucChose> i'll try that...
[00:45] <MachinTrucChose> brb
[00:47] <ForgeAus> Elbuntu (enlightnement instead of KDE/Gnome, etc) looks like it might be the next official *buntu coming...  (at least there is a Ubuntu forums page about it saying its nott official but they say *yet* after it and they do have a page dedicated to it...
[00:47] <MachinTrucChose> doesn't work...it starts a new session based on the last "saved session"...but you can end up with 2+ different new sessions, all based on the last ssession
[00:47] <kuresuna> hmmm
[00:48] <kuresuna> MachinTrucChose im out of ideas sorry
[00:48] <MachinTrucChose> thanks anyway
[00:48] <ForgeAus> as in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Elbuntu
[00:52] <veritas_> so i've been told that kubuntu kde 4.1 is unstable as hell
[00:52] <veritas_> any reason as to why such a rumour would propagate?
[00:54] <Dragnslcr> veritas_- because there are a lot of idiots on the Internet with nothing better to do with their time
[00:59] <Daisuke_Ido> the mistake is in assuming it's a rumour
[01:00] <Daisuke_Ido> the only way you can verify if kde 4.1 is suitable for your needs is to try it out
[01:00] <fujisan> -veritas i am running it right now
[01:01] <fujisan> it works fine if you keep in mind that it's a work in progress
[01:01] <fujisan> you shouldnt expect it to be anything else though
[01:04] <veritas_> would it be stable
[01:04] <veritas_> for developing large projects with kdevelop?
[01:04] <minzi> hi
[01:05] <katie> hello?
[01:05] <minzi> 早上好
[01:06] <katie> I could use some help if anybody's aailable
[01:06] <katie> *available
[01:06] <kuresuna> whats your problem?
[01:07] <katie> I seem to be having difficulty conecting wirelessly to my router. I am connected hardwired, but when I enter the wireless passphrase, it rejects it. I am 100% positive it is the correct passcode, as other computers in the home network connect with the same code.
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> WEP?
[01:08] <katie> the router is WPA configured, and I can't change that because one of the other computers in the network can only accept WPA. Is ubuntu compatible with WPA encryption?
[01:08] <Daisuke_Ido> sure is, i use it on campus almost daily
[01:08] <katie> then I don't understand the problem.
[01:09] <kuresuna> what are you using to connect to the network with?
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't know if knetworkmanager plays nice
[01:10] <kuresuna> if knetworkmanager dosn't work for you try wireless assistant
[01:10] <ubuntu> i have a problem with ubuntu 8
[01:10] <katie> um..... the little icon in the top right corner?I'm sorry I'm relatively new to UBUNTU and I am unfamiliar with the networking aspect of it
[01:10] <ubuntu> the installer doesn't detect my hd
[01:10] <ubuntu> any help
[01:11] <minzi> who can speak chinese??????????????/
[01:11] <kuresuna> ubuntu: provide more information on your prolem
[01:11] <katie> I tried Knetworkmanager and it wouldn't detect ANY of the wireless networks, but when I switched to wireless assistant, it read all the netowrks in range but still wont log me onto the one I need
[01:12] <katie> sorry minzi.....
[01:12] <ubuntu> i have a wd 160gb sata disk and i can't install ubuntu 8.04 becose the cd live isntaller can't detect my hd
[01:13] <katie> that happened with my computer actually... I had to download a different iso and re-burn a new disk
[01:13] <kuresuna> katie: im sorry but i don't know how to fix your problem
[01:13] <katie> darn it.... I can't understand this honestly.
[01:14] <kuresuna> someone else might be able to help you
[01:14] <katie> I'm not exactly new to networking and this is driving me crazy that I can't figure htis out
[01:14] <ramadan> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[01:14] <ForgeAus> !engage
[01:14] <ForgeAus> !info engage
[01:15] <kuresuna> with knetworkmanager you have to enable wirless by right clicking > options > enable wireless
[01:15] <kuresuna> maybe that will help
[01:15] <ForgeAus> !enlightenment
[01:16] <minzi> oh.....oh..        where are you from ??????????????? who can speak chinese!!!!!!!????????????
[01:16] <ramadan> hi how are u all
[01:17] <minzi> oh.....oh..        where are you from ??????????????? who can speak chinese!!!!!!!????????????
[01:17] <ramadan> i can only speak english
[01:17] <minzi>  where are you from?????????
[01:18] <ramadan> malaysia
[01:18] <minzi> oh!!!!
[01:18] <Firebolt145> hi, i'm following the instructions on this website to install my Wireless: http://thelinuxnewbie.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-wifi-wireless-c_115515845577896146.html
[01:18] <afeijo> how can I replace double line (\n\n) for single line (\n) in all my php files?
[01:19] <Firebolt145> however, it is clearly slightly out of date. i'm using kde 4.1; how do i complete step 5?
[01:19] <Firebolt145> afeijo: try use a program called vim, there's a function for doing that quickly, do a google
[01:19] <afeijo> I heard about vim, thanks
[01:20] <kuresuna> Firebolt145: try using a terminal to type the commands in
[01:20] <Firebolt145> kuresuna: i'm still a complete newbie to linux, how do i carry out step 5 in a terminal?
[01:20] <kuresuna> ah wait
[01:20] <kuresuna> i don't think you can sorry
[01:21] <Firebolt145> ok
[01:22] <ramadan> linux is crab
[01:23] <ramadan> i don' t like it at all
[01:24] <ramadan> i tried many time to download files using p2p software never manage to do it
[01:26] <fujisan> ramadan:  is crab also
[01:27] <kuresuna> ramadan: do you need help with K torrent or somthing?
[01:27] <fujisan> close your windows and eat during the day Allah wont be able to see it :o. dont spread this secret
[01:27] <veritas_> any idea how to get the internal mic working on my T61?
[01:27] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Does anyone know of phone unlocking software that will work in Linux?
[01:27] <fujisan> in veritas_
[01:27] <veritas_> ?
[01:27] <Firebolt145> [08:18] <Firebolt145> hi, i'm following the instructions on this website to install my Wireless: http://thelinuxnewbie.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-wifi-wireless-c_115515845577896146.html
[01:28] <Firebolt145> [08:19] <Firebolt145> however, it is clearly slightly out of date. i'm using kde 4.1; how do i complete step 5?
[01:28] <fujisan> veritas_:  you are the the truth
[01:28] <fujisan> in vino veritas :P
[01:37] <minzi> I use kubuntu 8.04,in vim, I press direction key ,"B" arise
[01:38] <Firebolt145> don't use the direction keys, use hjkl
[01:41] <veritas_> weird my konqueror doesn't like to load up my gmail
[01:41] <veritas_> and my firefox can't integrate my konqueror themes =(
[01:41] <veritas_> ugly buttons
[01:42] <veritas_> weird i also can't change to a 12hour clock
[01:44] <minzi> how to install ubuntu  with .iso,not CD
[01:45] <veritas_> er
[01:45] <veritas_> wubi?
[01:45] <minzi> no
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> uh, wubi.
[01:45] <veritas_> then it's not possible...
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> you're going to need to burn a disc
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> unless...
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> !pendrive
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> meh, i think there's a way to boot from a usb pendrive that has the image extracted, but that won't help if your pc won't boot from usb
[01:46] <minzi> uh
[01:48] <minzi> wubi only install CD image,DVD image!!!!!!!!!1?????????????
[01:48] <minzi> right????????
[01:49] <nejode> minzi: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Alternative-Installation-Methods-for-Hardy-86977.shtml
[01:49] <minzi> thanks
[01:51] <Alex135> finally! i got it fixed
[01:51] <Alex135> (after trying all day to reinstall ubuntu on a weird computer)
[01:53] <Daisuke_Ido> weird like designed by HR Giger?  or weird like odd hardware configuration?
[01:54] <veritas_> is anyone able to properly open gmail via konqueror?
[01:56] <minzi> my english is too bad,very bad,so i can't to express my idea clearly
[01:58] <nejode> minzi: what's your native language?
[02:00] <bazhang> !iso
[02:00] <bazhang> minzi ^^
[02:00] <bazhang> oops
[02:01] <neversfelde> veritas_: seems to be no problem here on 8.04
[02:01] <neversfelde> shall I test something special?
[02:04] <pulaski> Hello, does anyone know where I can obtain the audacity help files?
[02:04] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Could check the audacity homepage?
[02:04] <kuresuna> i think it may be in the package audacity-docs
[02:05] <Dr_willis> !find audacity
[02:05] <Dr_willis> !find audacity-docs
[02:05] <Boinc> ARRRRRRRRRRRRR
[02:05] <Boinc> im doing it
[02:05] <kuresuna> ah or not
[02:05] <Boinc> im deleting windows and moving over to kubuntu
[02:05] <veritas_> wtf my kopete doesn't remember my accounts
[02:05] <Boinc> help!!! ive gone insane
[02:05]  * kuresuna yawns
[02:07] <bazhang> Boinc, the #kubuntu-offtopic channel is for chat
[02:07] <Boinc> this for support then?
[02:07] <pulaski> Dr_willis: Duh, thanks
[02:07] <bazhang> yes
[02:07] <veritas_> can i just do apt-get remove Kwallet to remove KWallet?
[02:07] <Boinc> ahh cool, call i install MS office on kubuntu?
[02:07] <Boinc> like through wine
[02:07] <Boinc> or is there another way i can view office documents?
[02:08] <kuresuna> use openoffice
[02:08] <Boinc> that will open MS office files?
[02:08] <kuresuna> yes
[02:08] <Boinc> cos people send me them
[02:08] <Boinc> ahh ok cool
[02:08] <Boinc> all free?
[02:08] <kuresuna> yup
[02:08] <Boinc> great
[02:08] <kuresuna> it usually comes with ubuntu
[02:08] <Boinc> shitting myself tbh cos i run a business and lost of stuff on here
[02:09] <kuresuna> but if its a docx file you may need the openoffice beta i think
[02:09] <Boinc> hope it support smy hardware
[02:10] <Boinc> doubt it, but will open office support my emails if i export them from outlook express or will i loose them?
[02:11] <bazhang> Boinc, open office is not a mail client
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> bazhang: neither is outlook express :)
[02:11] <veritas_> rofl
[02:11] <Boinc> ahh right, so is it pointless me backing up my emails?
[02:11] <bazhang> hehe
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> Boinc: there are plenty of email packages for ubuntu (kmail or evolution for kde and gnome respectively)
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> if you can export to a standard mailbox format, i'm pretty sure you can import into kmail
[02:12] <Boinc> yes but my point is will any of them support improting my messages from outlook express?
[02:12] <Boinc> doubt it
[02:12] <Boinc> only ms exchange and windows mail formats :(
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> yea, OE's not friendly like that
[02:13] <Daisuke_Ido> that doesn't surprise me
[02:13] <Boinc> suppose i will have to cut my loss's
[02:13] <Daisuke_Ido> keep a copy of your mail
[02:13] <Daisuke_Ido> definitely don't want to just dump it
[02:14] <Dr_willis> unless its all spam - like my email
[02:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:14] <Boinc> what about my second drive, i have it as a backup drive with lots of important files in note pad etc... will kubuntu see it and be able to view the files and open them?
[02:14] <Dr_willis> Linux can read/write ntfs filesystems.. if its ntfs.. and vfat if its the older windows filesystem
[02:14] <kuresuna> Bonic: yes kubuntu will see your hard drive when you mount it
[02:14] <Boinc> ok gonna give this a go
[02:14] <Boinc> thanks for the help
[02:15] <Dr_willis> if its an internal drive. be sure to tell the installer a proper mount point for it.
[02:15] <Boinc> just need the 648mb download file from the site right?
[02:15] <Dr_willis> if its a usb drive. I would unplug the drive befor installing.
[02:15] <kuresuna> yup
[02:15] <Dr_willis> you download the .iso file and burn to cd - normally
[02:15] <Boinc> its a high spec system worried about that
[02:15] <Boinc> very high spec
[02:15] <gecko_> I have just deleted a folder that i needed by stupidity, i can't seem to find the "trash bin" is there a way i may retreave my folder back???
[02:15] <Dr_willis> This weeks High Spec. is next weeks Bargin Bin. :)
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !trash
[02:16] <Dr_willis> gecko_,  and theres the 'trash://
[02:16] <Dr_willis>  (i think url)
[02:16] <Boinc> well cost me £3,000 and still worth about £2,000
[02:16] <Dr_willis> I dont even know what that is in American. >:)
[02:16] <Boinc> $6,000
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> bout 4 grand
[02:16] <Dr_willis> I find it hard to justify spending  that kind of $ for any pc these days
[02:16] <Boinc> no 6 grand
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> 6 grand new, yea
[02:16] <Boinc> yes
[02:17] <Dr_willis> even $1000 is a bit overkill.
[02:17] <Boinc> ok well i can only try
[02:17] <Daisuke_Ido> but hardware prices between the UK and US are disparate to say the least
[02:17] <Boinc> thanks for help
[02:17] <Dr_willis> Unless you need a $800+ video cards.
[02:17] <gecko_> Thank you kindly guys.
[02:17] <Daisuke_Ido> you guys have what, a 17.5% VAT?
[02:17] <Boinc> yes
[02:17] <illmortal> ﻿Does anyone know if Kubuntu is still having problems with flv? Why does linux run so choppy on youtube videos?
[02:18] <Dr_willis> illmortal,  blame flash.  is about all it boils down to.
[02:18] <Dr_willis> I got most flash sites working fine on my kubuntu box.
[02:18] <illmortal> -.- there's way to many problems with linux =\
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> so pitch in and help fix them
[02:19] <illmortal> even if I download the flv file and play it in VLC it run really choppy and simply stops while sound still plays.
[02:19] <Dr_willis> Fix #1 - stop using flash.
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> coding's not the only way.  you can file bug reports, triage, assist in writing documentation, etc.
[02:19] <veritas_> when are going to fix the goddamn plasma save setting error
[02:19] <illmortal> lol @ stop using flash. majority of sites in this world use flash.
[02:19] <Dr_willis> Its gotten where it seems 90% of the questions in linux channels - are about getting flash working.
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> veritas_: when you get to #kubuntu-kde4 and ask the right g****** people.
[02:20] <Dr_willis> and they use it for totally lame reasons.. like sites did years ago with silly javascript and java crapplets
[02:20] <illmortal> if linux can't play flash... then there's no point in using linux for anything other than uhm... well i dunno. majority of the time i spend is on websites, which are flash based.
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> that's your problem
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> i can think of literally a thousand things to do that don't require flash :)
[02:21] <kuresuna> illmortal: if flash is all you use then stick to winblows
[02:21] <illmortal> =\ flash is pretty entertaining.
[02:21] <Dr_willis> Lovely how 'flash' has taken over the 'video stream' stuff when theres  ways that seem to give much better output.
[02:21] <Daisuke_Ido> and i've had no flash issues, aside from the occassional site where a flash navigation system covers up content
[02:22] <illmortal> kresuna... it looks like im gonna have to go back to windows for majority of uses.
[02:22] <Dr_willis> cbs.com updated recently and broke flash/videos in firefox under linux and windows for me.
[02:22] <kuresuna> illmortal: if you want, keep kubuntu and dual boot, use kubuntu for other things other then flash
[02:22] <Dr_willis> and changing the user agant for firefox - dident help. Opera for windows does work
[02:22] <illmortal> I stayed away from windows for nearly 2 years and realized... I'm missing out on so much because of the inabilities of linux (ubuntu/kubuntu)
[02:23]  * Daisuke_Ido 's sides hurt he's laughing so hard
[02:23] <mariano> hola
[02:24] <Dr_willis> I stay away from windows for 2 years.. and realized how much time and $$ i was saving by not having to fight with spyware/viruses/other stupid trivialware things..
[02:24]  * kuresuna has a good laugh at Daisuke_Ido for no apparent reason
[02:25] <Dr_willis> Not to mention - i no longer 'impulse-bought' the latest games. :)
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> what could you possibly be missing out on?  BSODs?  Companies treating their customers like criminals?  Artificial software limitations (you can't run this on XP!)?  Viruses?  Spyware?
[02:25]  * Dr_willis is addicted to IRC.
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: it's an MMO
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> evening BluesKaj
[02:25] <Dr_willis> IRCmmoRPGRTSIM
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> get some rest?
[02:25] <illmortal> ok how about this.... if I can convert flv to say... avi. Will it play without freezing up?...
[02:25] <Dr_willis> illmortal,  try it and see?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> evening Daisuke_Ido
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> illmortal: i've never had a problem with it
[02:26] <illmortal> I'm willing to download the darn flv files just to convert it to something that's stable and viewable.
[02:26] <kuresuna> illmortal: are you watching you tube videos?
[02:26] <mariano> hello
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> if you can snag the flv, they can be converted fairly easily with mencoder
[02:26] <Dr_willis> i seem to recall firefox extensions that could download/convert   automatically for you.
[02:26] <illmortal> yeah kuresuna... the same videos I was watching at work.
[02:26] <Dr_willis> Not that icve seen any Youtube videos worth downloading.
[02:26] <kuresuna> lol
[02:27] <Dr_willis> Poor old Stage6.com - at least had some decent quality streams to watch. :)
[02:27] <kuresuna> just an assumption, alot of poeple watch youtube vids
[02:27] <mariano> hello??
[02:27] <kuresuna> hi mariano!
[02:27] <mariano> hi
[02:27] <illmortal> there's no other sites I know of that plays videos of all sorts o.o; and is more stable than youtube or "linux" friendly.
[02:27] <Dr_willis> A lot of people have  way too much free time also. :)
[02:28] <mariano> i speke in spanish
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> !es | mariano
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> illmortal: i still don't see what the issue is with youtube
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i use it pretty much daily
[02:29] <illmortal> Daisuke_Ido... If I play a video.. within 5 seconds the video becomes choppy.
[02:30] <illmortal> All I get is sound.. and the video either freezes or simply becomes horrible to watch.
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> can we try a test?
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
[02:32]  * Daisuke_Ido apologizes in advance
[02:32] <Daisuke_Ido> it's the first video i thought of
[02:33] <illmortal> -.- choppy.
[02:33] <Dr_willis> Crappy Music videos.. yea.. Youtube is a MUST HAVE thing. :)
[02:33] <Dragnslcr> Did you just Rickroll him?
[02:33] <illmortal> oh now the sound chops up too. joy!
[02:33] <Dr_willis> I got no issues here.
[02:34] <Dr_willis> Other then the dog just commited sucide from the music. :P
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: i did
[02:34] <Dragnslcr> Haha
[02:34] <Dragnslcr> Awesome
[02:34] <kuresuna> lol
[02:34] <BluesKaj> gawd
[02:34] <kuresuna> rick roll xD
[02:34] <illmortal> literally it looks like the flash is built in slices... and it loads frames in separate slices lol
[02:35] <Daisuke_Ido> that's definitely odd
[02:35] <Daisuke_Ido> what version of flash are you using?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> sounds almost like a cacheing issue.
[02:35] <illmortal> o.o; cachin?
[02:35] <illmortal> caching*
[02:36] <Boinc> does kubuntu support tri monitor setup?
[02:37] <mariano> Hola where you are?
[02:38] <Daisuke_Ido> Boinc: i can't say i've ever seen it, but i don't think it's impossible
[02:38] <Boinc> would it depend on kubuntu or if the video card drivers were out for my card with linux?
[02:40] <mariano> hello
[02:40] <Daisuke_Ido> mariano: do you have a question?
[02:41] <mariano> you speke in spanish?
[02:41] <Daisuke_Ido> mariano: no, you've already been told that the spanish-speaking channel is #kubuntu-es
[02:41] <Daisuke_Ido> type /join #kubuntu-es
[02:41] <Daisuke_Ido> and they can help in your native tongue :)
[02:43] <mariano> If but I prefer speaking with you
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't speak spanish
[02:43] <kuresuna> you got some fans Daisuke_Ido
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> this is a support channel.  if you have a question, ask in here, in english, all on one line, and we'll try to help
[02:44] <mariano> I teach(show) you and vos you teach(show) me to my
[02:45] <kuresuna> mariano, you really should go to #kubuntu-es
[02:46] <mariano> Which is his(its) age?
[02:48] <LinuxReign> mariano, escribe /join #ubuntu-es y le das ENTER
[02:52] <mariano> alguien tiene que hablar español
[02:52] <mariano> !!!
[03:17] <nonewmsgs> my kmail isnt getting my gmail anymore
[03:19] <nonewmsgs> ok it got it.  my kmail is an intermittant problem getting my gmail :P
[03:23] <nonewmsgs> any ideas what this is http://pastebin.com/m3550ba25
[03:25] <master_> hi
[03:30] <gleyve> where to download mp3?
[03:35] <Dr_willis> google for 'legally free mp3' ?
[03:35] <Dr_willis> !p2p
[03:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:35] <Dr_willis> too bad he allready left.
[03:42] <veritas_> hmm kcontrol doesn't seem to like KDE4.1
[03:45] <Dr_willis> I was thinking kcontrol was getting a major work over for kde4+
[03:46] <veritas_> oh
[03:51] <Dr_willis> amazing how 'complex' a simple task like 'getting all the settings in one organized place' can be :)
[03:55] <fernando__> hi
[03:56] <Dr_willis> !hi
[03:56] <fernando__> hi
[03:56] <fernando__> thanks
[03:56] <veritas_> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindX11.cmake:364 (MESSAGE):
[03:56] <veritas_>   Could not find X11
[03:56] <veritas_> cant figure that out
[03:57] <fernando__> any girl?
[03:59] <MrKennie> anyone use kdevelop and python?
[04:00] <fernando__> hello
[04:00] <MrKennie> hi
[04:00] <bazhang> fernando__, this is kubuntu support; do you have a kubuntu support question?
[04:01] <veritas_> anyone know where X11-devel headers are?
[04:02] <fernando__> bazhang
[04:02] <fernando__> ????
[04:02] <bazhang> fernando__, what
[04:02] <fernando__> you said me this?
 fernando__, this is kubuntu support; do you have a kubuntu support question?
[04:02] <Whiz2> what is the terminal command to install the KDE desktop, and all the default stuff that comes with Kubuntu?
[04:03] <bazhang> fernando__, this is not a chat channel; it is Kubuntu Linux OS support channel.
[04:03] <fernando__> yes I understand
[04:03] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop Whiz2
[04:03] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install
[04:04] <Whiz2> thanks
[04:04] <bazhang> np
[04:04] <Whiz2> if need be, how do i unstall the desktop interface that comes with xubuntu?
[04:04] <MrKennie> I understand it's supposed to be better to use aptitude to install it
[04:05] <Whiz2> xubuntu-desktop?
[04:05] <bazhang> !purekde | Whiz2 check this
[04:05] <bazhang> Whiz2, that wont do it; need to check that link
[04:05] <Whiz2> looking
[04:06] <veritas_> what are the GTK development libraries  ?
[04:07] <Whiz2> bazhang: that is for removing ubuntu and gnome. i'm currently using xubuntu
[04:07] <MrKennie> libgtk2.0-dev
[04:07] <veritas_> thx
[04:08] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search dev | grep gtk
[04:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:08] <MrKennie> veritas_: apt-cache search might help.
[04:08] <MrKennie> like that, yea :)
[04:08] <bazhang> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome Whiz2 sorry wrong link
[04:09] <veritas_> weird
[04:09] <veritas_> i install libgtk and the dev files
[04:09] <veritas_> but cmake is still saying that GTK's not found
[04:09] <MrKennie> ah, is it after gtk1 ?
[04:09] <veritas_> er
[04:09] <veritas_> i'm just getting the latest gtks
[04:09] <Schuenemann> what command lists all my partitions?
[04:10] <veritas_> trying to build gtk-qt theme engine
[04:10] <MrKennie> oh i see
[04:10] <MrKennie> can't be gtk1 then
[04:10] <MrKennie> veritas_: you will be looking for package names usually ending with -dev
[04:12] <Dr_willis> !find gtk-qt
[04:12] <Dr_willis> That one?
[04:12] <Schuenemann> wasn't fstab the command to see my partitions?
[04:13] <veritas_> hmm
[04:14] <veritas_> didnt see the kde4
[04:14] <veritas_> gonna try that out
[04:15] <_2> does anyone know anything about stopping ssh from doing dns lookups ?
[04:16]  * _2 confesses up front that it's not ubuntu's ssh that is causing the problem
[04:16] <reaby> I have a problem with konqueror: a site i'm developing stucks to "post data" loop. Page works great under any other browser. Page has a form which on submit poinst to same page, and this is the problem with konqueror. any ideas how to fix.
[04:17] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  fstab is not now, nor ever has been a 'command'
[04:17] <_2> reaby by any other browser can i assume you are including elinks dillo epiphany w3m ...  ?
[04:17] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  'sudo fdisk -l'   Perhaps
[04:17] <MrKennie> reaby: what language are you using?
[04:17] <reaby> MrKennie: php
[04:18] <_2> reaby or does "any other browser" really mean firefox ?
[04:18] <MrKennie> reaby: have you asked in #php?
[04:18] <reaby> MrKennie: not yet
[04:18] <reaby> _2: well firefox and opera on linux + same on windows + ie
[04:18] <MrKennie> reaby: probably best ask in there.
[04:19] <_2> reaby ok.  but for future records that does not constitute "any other browser".
[04:20] <reaby> _2: well, true.
[04:20] <reaby> _2: maybe i could have stated "any other mainstream browser"
[04:21] <reaby> i ask in #php, thanks.
[04:21] <_2> mainstream on that other os ?    </drops like hot potato>
[04:22] <_2> so does anyone know anything about stopping ssh from doing dns lookups ?
[04:22] <_2> i kinda need to fix one ssh client
[04:22] <devo> ok i need help, i think someone is in my computer rite now cuz my web bowser keep's on close'n by it's self, can anyone hlep me out!!!???
[04:23] <_2> devo pull the plug to the inet.
[04:23] <_2> devo pstree
[04:23] <devo>  i can't cuz i'm rite to my girl
[04:23] <_2> devo ?
[04:23] <devo>  over the net
[04:24] <_2> cant != don't want to...
[04:24] <MrKennie> devo: does this happen on any website or a particular one?
[04:24] <devo>  i'm rite'n to my girl cuz i can't talked to her on the phone rite now & i can't see her rite now so i'm try'n to talk to her through myspace
[04:24] <MrKennie> devo: also which browser are you using?
[04:25] <devo>  firefox
[04:25] <devo>  and no this dosen't happen all the time ither
[04:25] <Dr_willis> Get her on IRC! :)
[04:25] <devo>  i can't cuz she's not by a computer rite now
[04:26] <_2> anyway.   iftop   wireshark   pstree   w  who      and logs auth.log Xorg.* in /var/log/    all might help prove your caim
[04:26] <Dr_willis> I can honestly say ive never chatted with anyone on myspace. :) and i can only rember going to a myspace site.. once..
[04:26] <devo>  and she has windows
[04:26] <Dr_willis> Weird Al. had free mp3's on his Myspace site. :)
[04:26] <MrKennie> devo: well, before assuming you are being I would eliminate any obvious caused first
[04:26] <Dr_willis> devo,  there are irc clients for windows.
[04:26] <MrKennie> devo: er, before assuming you have been compromised...
[04:26] <devo>  ok
[04:27] <devo>  i've been use'n linux for the past 2 to 3 week's so srry to say i don't know what ur talk'n about
[04:27] <_2> Dr_willis i think you out rank me there by +1 myspace visit
[04:27] <MrKennie> devo: does it happen with a particular website or any website?
[04:28] <devo>  well rite now it's any website & when i went on here to talk to u guy's to help me out then it stoped, i don't get WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!
[04:29]  * _2 smells a troll
[04:29] <MrKennie> devo: it stopped?
[04:29] <devo> i'm NOT a troll god damn it
[04:29] <Dr_willis> http://www.myspace.com/weirdal
[04:29] <devo>  yes it did stop for now but it's gonna do it again i know it will
[04:30] <_2> Dr_willis heh.  i'll pass.  you can remain the myspace guru between us   lol
[04:30] <devo>  & my net connection is extreamly slow 2 & i don't know why
[04:30] <Dr_willis> New Weird Al Tunes! :)
[04:31] <devo>  can anyone help me to get my internet connection runn'n faster???
[04:31] <Schuenemann> yes, buy more bandwidtdh
[04:31] <Schuenemann> bandwidth*
[04:31] <MrKennie> devo: can't help there. I would check netstat, go through your log files etc.
[04:32] <devo>  like i said lot's of time's is that i have been use'n linux for the past 2 to 3 weel
[04:32] <MrKennie> devo: enable the firewall
[04:32] <devo>  week's* so yeah
[04:32] <devo>  i don't have one
[04:33] <MrKennie> devo: sure, you are using kubuntu right?
[04:33] <devo>  yes but i don't have a firewall if i do then i don't know how to use it then lol
[04:34] <MrKennie> open konsole and type sudo ufw enable
[04:34] <devo>  i just got done look'n in my app's & i don't have a firewall
[04:34] <MrKennie> just do what I said
[04:34] <devo>  i'm NOT gonna untill i know what that is & what does it do???
[04:35] <_2> then man ufw
[04:35] <_2> man sudo
[04:35] <_2> man man
[04:35] <MrKennie> ir formats your hard disk.. but seriously, it simply enables the ubuntu firewall.
[04:35] <_2> reverse order might be advisable
[04:35] <devo>  i will do it as long as u tell me what it's gonna do
[04:35] <devo>  i'm very protective of my computer
[04:36] <_2> devo type in a konsole.   man intro
[04:36] <MrKennie> if you were protective you would have your firewall enabled anyway
[04:36] <_2> devo or type in a konsole.   man man
[04:36] <devo>  well srry that i don't know how to use linux like u do
[04:36] <devo>  i'm new with use'n linux so give me a break
[04:36] <_2> after that you can quiclky check what any command will do by using the man command on it.
[04:37] <MrKennie> devo: we are trying to help you, if you don't want to do it then don't.
[04:37] <veritas_> hey guys, i'm running into another problem, i'm trying to install the skulpture theme for KDE4 at kde-look.org, and I DLed it as a .deb file, but when I do dpkg -i on the .deb package, it has architecture conflicts as I'm using 64bit and not 32bit, so how can install the theme?
[04:37] <devo>  ok i'll do it
[04:37] <jdelectro> does the last version of kubuntu come with kde 4.1?
[04:37] <veritas_> jdelectro: 64bit version didnt lol
[04:37] <_2> jdelectro no.
[04:37] <_2> !kde4
[04:38] <jdelectro> oh sry wrong channel :(
[04:38] <devo>  ok i did enable the firewall now what?
[04:38] <MrKennie> devo: well, that's a start.
[04:39] <_2> veritas_ ummm get the deb for 64 bit or get source
[04:39] <devo>  ok what else is there to do?
[04:39] <_2> devo man man
[04:39] <MrKennie> devo: now while you have konsole open check netstat -tuna and go through your log files
[04:40] <BUHG> Hi i have a problem with google earth, when i start it, it close by itself, here's the Konsole:
[04:40] <BUHG> pablo@pablo-desktop:~$ /home/pablo/google-earth//googleearth %f
[04:40] <BUHG> [sis_tex.c:118]:Failure to allocate texture memory.
[04:40] <BUHG> thenks
[04:40] <kuresuna> BUHG, try running it as sudo
[04:40] <devo>  what do u mean by go through the log files???
[04:41] <BUHG> how i run it as sudo?? excuse the dum question
[04:41] <MrKennie> devo: /var/log contains various log files. Check auth.log messages, syslog etc.
[04:41] <devo>  i don't know how to do that or what u mean, srry
[04:41] <Dr_willis> sudo /home/pablo/google-earth/googleearth
[04:41] <Dr_willis> Ive never had to sudo googleearth however.
[04:42] <Dr_willis> may be a video card issue
[04:42] <kuresuna> well, who knows
[04:42] <mixed1234> what application would you recommend to record yourself on the mic using KDE?
[04:42] <BUHG> it says the same!!!
[04:42] <kuresuna> mixed1234 use Audacity
[04:42] <_2> krec
[04:42] <mixed1234> kuresuna, ill give audacity a try right now, thanks
[04:43] <MrKennie> devo: this is really something you need to investigate yourself. My first port of call is to figure out why firefox dies. It could be flash, try browsing google for a while and see if it does it.
[04:43] <_2> mixed1234 audacity will work.  it's a lot of overnead just to record dps   krec would be a lot lighter
[04:43] <_2> overhead
[04:44] <BUHG> it says the same thing!
[04:44] <_2> heh   dsp  &    maybe i should just retype that...
[04:44] <MrKennie> dunno why I bother
[04:44] <Dr_willis> BUHG,  and your video card is a ?
[04:44] <BUHG> um?
[04:44] <BUHG> i in windows run perfect to me  with the same card
[04:45] <kuresuna> BUHG, do you know the model of your card?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> BUHG,  i dident ask that.. :)
[04:45] <BUHG> SIS...
[04:45] <_2> BUHG and that is relevent how ?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> If you dont have the 3d drivers for your video card installed under linux.. well.. its not going to work
[04:45] <BUHG> ah! i can't apply the effects either
[04:45] <mixed1234> _2, I just tried audacity,  know what?  I think I like it :-) thank you kuresuna, ill play a few songs with my guitar when nobody's at home and see what I sound like
[04:46] <Dr_willis> SIS? Ick. :()  Hmm [sis_tex.c:118]:Failure to allocate texture memory.  that makes sence that it has 'sis' in there
[04:46] <Dr_willis> !sis
[04:46] <kuresuna> mixed123, glad you like it
[04:46] <Dr_willis> I dont know squat about sis under linux either - other then people often have problems with them
[04:46] <MrKennie> I don't think sis has any proper 3d support in linux
[04:47] <_2> mixed1234 like i said it will work.   i have used it quite a bit   but it's a bit like calling a 40ton wrecker to pull a tonka truck out of a ditch.
[04:47] <BUHG> it's that my little brother LOVES oogle Earth!!! exist an alternative?
[04:47] <MrKennie> does glxgears work
[04:48] <_2> Dr_willis sis made very few 3d ready cards.
[04:49] <BUHG> exist an alternative?
[04:50] <MrKennie> BUHG: not as far as I know
[04:51] <mixed1234> _2, LoL  yes, I know what you mean however I was able to record my voice without reading an entire manual first, it's not that bad
[04:51] <MrKennie> there is marble but that may not work without 3d and the information isn't anywhere near as complet eas GE yet.
[04:51] <_2> mixed1234 happy for you then.
[04:52] <BUHG> google maps can work kinda the same right?
[04:52] <mixed1234> _2 however I am also going to try krec, thank you for your input
[04:52] <Dr_willis> I rember when 'matrox' and 'sis' were big names. :)
[04:52] <MrKennie> BUHG: pretty much, just no fancy 3d globe
[04:52] <_2> Dr_willis yeah.  and win95 was new...
[04:53] <kuresuna> _2 touche'
[04:53] <BUHG> well if has pics and informartion is ok thenks MrKennie
[04:54] <MrKennie> BUHG: yea, it's basically the same.
[04:55] <illmortal> Can someone recommend a powerful GUI firewall?
[04:56] <_2> illmortal the firewall is iptables.
[04:56] <_2> !firewall
[04:56] <illmortal> thanks _2!
[04:57] <_2> welcome.   but konw for sure that the cli will be much more flexable than the gui frontends
[04:57] <illmortal> proxy!
[04:57] <illmortal> !proxy
[05:05] <_2> oh   marble is a kde4 app ....   i see.
[05:38] <m801> I'm trying to find the KDE Control Center option for turning CAPS LOCK into an extra control key. Was it removed?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> I dont rember ever seeing that. I was thinking years ago there was some xmodemap command ya used.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> old-skool :)
[05:40] <m801> yeah, I used to do it that way, but for the last few years, it's been an option in the keyboard section of the system options
[05:41] <m801> when I google it, there are all these references to a keyboard configuration page that doesn't look like the one I have
[05:42] <Dr_willis> I cant recall ever messing with the keybaord configs.. so cant help much.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> You are using kde3 ? not 4 right?
[05:42] <m801> no it's 4, AFAICT
[05:43] <m801> ah crud, I'm wrong
[05:43] <m801> 3.5.9 :-(
[05:43] <Dr_willis> could been its been tweaked/changed/removed in  some of the later kde's
[05:43] <Dr_willis> kde4 is a whole nother game. :)
[05:44] <m801> ah well, looks like I'm xmodmapping it then. Thanks!
[05:45] <Dr_willis> http://efod.se/writings/linuxbook/html/caps-lock-to-ctrl.html :) seems to cover that
[05:45] <Dr_willis> I wodner of the kde config tool just altered the users .Xmodemap file
[05:46] <m801> I used to use the gnome control center, and it did something funky.
[05:46] <m801> (I'm switching to KDE today)
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Then ya get to relearn when kde4 comes out! :)
[05:48] <m801> or not upgrade ;-)
[05:48] <Dr_willis> wheres the fun in that!
[05:50] <m801> <- doesn't like fun.
[05:51] <m801> well, I put it in .Xmodmap, and it looks like it's working.
[05:51] <binskipy2u> hey guys, if i were to install 4.0.2, what is the best way to upgrade to 4.1(after adding the community repos of course)
[05:51] <binskipy2u> install 4.0.2, then enable all repos, then do a system upgrade then add the 4.1 repo
[05:51] <binskipy2u> and do a dist-upgrade?
[05:51] <MrKennie> don't enable all the repositories
[05:52] <binskipy2u> ive been reading 4.1 is nicer ,faster and more feature-rich then 4.0.2
[05:52] <_2> !kde4
[05:52] <MrKennie> it is
[05:53] <_2> any particular thoughts on mixing flavours of linux packages  debian/ubuntu  ?
[05:53] <MrKennie> could get messy
[05:53] <_2> it's already messy tho
[05:54] <MrKennie> what is?
[05:54] <_2> i really need to relosve this one issue with ssh not being able to connect to my server if the server is not connected to the inet
[05:54] <_2> some rdns issue i thing
[05:55] <MrKennie> what's wrong?
[05:55] <_2> it times out
[05:55] <Dr_willis> mixxing ubuntu + debian is asking for weird funky problems. :)
[05:55] <DarkriftX> if I install kde4 on 8.04 can I still choose to use kde3 if I want?
[05:55] <MrKennie> I assume you can ping the machine and all?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> DarkriftX,  yes.
[05:55] <DarkriftX> cool
[05:55] <DarkriftX> !info kde4
[05:55] <_2> can't connect to the server to start the inet connection without the inet connection being up...  catch 22
[05:55] <Dr_willis> DarkriftX,  the kdm login screen will have a sessions menu item for them all
[05:55] <DarkriftX> ooooh
[05:55] <DarkriftX> speaking of
[05:56] <DarkriftX> when my laptop rebooted, i now have like 20 users
[05:56] <DarkriftX> all named qmail user
[05:56] <DarkriftX> what would cause that? and how can I fix it?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> DarkriftX,  Hmmm where are you seeing these users at?
[05:56] <_2> MrKennie yes. i can even chroot into another installation and from there ssh into it.  so it's got to be client specific.
[05:56] <DarkriftX> in the user list when it asks me to login to kde
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Hmm..i dont even hafe a user list. :)  mstbe using a different kdm theme.
[05:57] <DarkriftX> its the default
[05:57] <DarkriftX> i havent changed anything since I installed 8.04
[05:57] <Dr_willis> could configure kdm  to hide the user  qmail I guess
[05:57] <Dr_willis> sounds like a bug to me however. :)
[05:57] <DarkriftX> i dont even use qmail :S
[05:57] <DarkriftX> no mail server here
[05:57] <Dr_willis> remove the package then perhaps
[05:58] <DarkriftX> and for some odd reason, i couldnt use apt last night without letting it install some odd mail server software, i think it was called imex or something
[05:58] <MrKennie> _2: what if you telnet <host> 22 ? anything?
[05:58] <_2> MrKennie i'd have to disconnect from the inet to test.
[05:58] <MrKennie> oh right
[05:59] <_2> MrKennie ssh works find while the server is connected to the inet
[05:59] <_2> fine
[05:59] <MrKennie> _2: I'm not sure I follow
[06:00] <MrKennie> _2: the server is on your LAN?
[06:01] <_2> server is 192.168.0.1   inet is dialup from 192.168.0.1    ssh 192.168.0.1   from 192.168.0.2 if inet is up works fine.  if inet is down. it times out.   only does this with one particular openssh client.   i can chroot another system on 192.168.0.2 and do the same   ssh 192.168.0.1   with the inet down and it still works fine.
[06:02] <_2> MrKennie yes all on two lan's   nat'd togather
[06:02] <MrKennie> _2: I see
[06:02] <MrKennie> but can you telnet 192.168.0.1 22 ?
[06:03] <MrKennie> that is when offline of course.
[06:03] <MrKennie> I follow what you are saying now, sorry.
[06:04] <_2> i dont think i even can when online
[06:04] <MrKennie> you should get something like Escape character is '^]'.
[06:04] <MrKennie> SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-8ubuntu1.2
[06:04] <_2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6dd22f9e
[06:05] <MrKennie> yea, so that's good. I guess you would need to test offline too right?
[06:05] <_2> yeah
[06:05] <_2> but the thing is i can do this offline with other boxen on the lan
[06:05] <_2> it's just the debian etch that cant
[06:06]  * _2 watches smoke rise...
[06:06] <MrKennie> need to test if it's application level or not and telnet is probably the best test
[06:06] <_2> it's app level.
[06:07] <_2> else chroot /mnt/ubuntu     and ssh 192.168.0.1   would also fail when offline  but it works.
[06:08] <MrKennie> _2: tried UseDNS option?
[06:09] <_2> and the only thing i have been able to find on the subject so far is "you should setup bind9"
[06:09] <_2> MrKennie ?   no
[06:09] <_2> MrKennie i'll look for that.
[06:09] <MrKennie> according to the manpage it's set to yes by default
[06:10] <MrKennie> in sshd_config
[06:10] <_2> but it's not sshd that's failing it's ssh that's failing
[06:11] <MrKennie> reverse lookups are disabled by default btw
[06:11] <_2> in ubuntu.  but what about debian.  and howto enable/disable them in ubuntu will probably solve my problem
[06:12] <_2>                                  in debian ^
[06:14] <_2> 192.168.0.1 = ubuntu    192.168.0.2 = debian/ubuntu   192.168.0.3 = ubuntu   192.168.0.4 = ubuntu   192.168.0... = ubuntu     only  192.168.0.2 is failing to connect to anything while 192.168.0.1 is not connected to the inet    all other ssh activity works in all dirrections.
[06:14] <MrKennie> VerifyReverseMapping is the only other option I can find
[06:14] <_2> MrKennie that's in ssh_config ?
[06:14] <MrKennie> "no" is default
[06:14] <_2> ? ^
[06:15] <_2> or sshd_config ???
[06:15] <MrKennie> no, sshd, checking
[06:16] <josh__> who knows a lot about alienware graphics drivers (proprietory)
[06:17] <MrKennie> _2: nothing in there about reverse lookups
[06:18] <josh__> well... two gtx 7900 go sli cards anyone know if the drivers are different when they're stock with the alienware mALX?
[06:18] <josh__> appreciate any help...
[06:19] <MrKennie> I don't know anything about alienware, sorry
[06:19] <josh__> i've tried everything i know of
[06:19] <MrKennie> you've tried the nvidia drivers via the restricted drivers manager?
[06:20] <josh__> all i end up getting after the configuration of the xorg.conf file is stupid scattering colors everywhere after x boots
[06:20] <MrKennie> they are nvidia right?
[06:20] <josh__> like envy
[06:20] <josh__> yeah
[06:20] <_2> !envy
[06:20] <MrKennie> sli is still a fairly new feature as far as linux+nvidia is concerned
[06:20] <josh__> yeah thats what i hear
[06:21] <MrKennie> nvidia are slow to support us unfortunatly :(
[06:21] <josh__> i have tried envy-ng already no dice
[06:21] <josh__> haha i know
[06:21] <josh__> there are drivers for my model but they won't seem to work
[06:21] <DarkriftX> i installed kde4, rebooted and my login screen was different, but it still loaded kde3
[06:21] <josh__> i've come to the conclusion that alienware did this to me!!!
[06:22] <MrKennie> so you tried the envy method?
[06:22] <josh__> yeah
[06:22] <DarkriftX> and i selected kde4 as the default wm
[06:22] <josh__> and the nvidia auto xorg config
[06:22] <Chikito> part
[06:22] <josh__> i get great res but the 3d wont work
[06:22] <MrKennie> I wonder of the 7x series will get any further support..
[06:22] <josh__> and thats with the nv set in xorg
[06:23] <josh__> i sure hope so
[06:23] <josh__> i've had this problem for almost a year now
[06:23] <MrKennie> they recently split the drivers up from what I understand which usually means they cease fixing the older stuff.
[06:23] <josh__> i'm seriously thinking of programming my own driver
[06:24] <josh__> its not too far fetched either i've been reading up on it
[06:24] <MrKennie> I believe it is possible
[06:24] <josh__> then i could help my fellow alienware users
[06:24] <josh__> lol
[06:24] <MrKennie> just needs a lot of time and patience
[06:24] <josh__> oh yeah
[06:25] <josh__> and c code haha
[06:25] <MrKennie> and try and avoid the reverse engineering lawsuits
[06:25] <fujisan> i am a propellerhead that's why i am using Kubuntu, and encounter error, MrKennie is clueless about, while he thinks he is an expert!
[06:25] <josh__> yeah its crossed my mind... maybe an anonymous distributer ;)
[06:26] <MrKennie> fujisan is a troll and should stfu
[06:26] <fujisan> i am not a troll, I asked you about bluetooth yesterday and you didn't know
[06:26] <josh__> i agree what's up with you troll head
[06:26] <MrKennie> lol
[06:26] <fujisan> so i have evidence
[06:27] <josh__> did you log your session
[06:27] <josh__> ????
[06:27] <fujisan> see i don't use troll acronyms such as: "lol" , you are the pot calling the kettle black mrKennie
[06:27] <_2> fujisan you may not have been a troll yesterday when you asked about bluetooth.  but you are trolling today.   please stop.
[06:27] <MrKennie> apparently I have no clue because I do not own any bluetooth devices therefor have no experience using it under linux.
[06:27] <fujisan> i am not _2
[06:27] <DarkriftX> i installed kde4 via apt on kubuntu 8.04, rebooted and my login screen was different, but it still loaded kde3, does anyone know what else I have to do?
[06:27] <_2> MrKennie please don't feed...
[06:28] <MrKennie> _2: *nod*
[06:28] <josh__> yeah when you install choose the new kde
[06:28] <DarkriftX> i did
[06:29] <fujisan> _2 I predicate your sanctimonious attitude towards me
[06:29] <MrKennie> DarkriftX: oh, where you login you need to choose kde4 fro mthe sesion type menu
[06:29] <MrKennie> session type menu*
[06:29] <fujisan> _2 and MrKennie you both, couldn't help me with bluetooth
[06:29] <fujisan> or even refer me to the kde bluetooth channels, amatures
[06:29] <DarkriftX> ahhh, i c
[06:30] <fujisan> One speaking his concerns about the quality of voluntary community support != trolling
[06:31] <fujisan> I am just saying there is room for improvement that's all, and I am trying to do it in concise and constructive manner
[06:32] <fujisan> bluetooth is pretty generic technology and many are using it
[06:32] <fujisan> but I will drop the topic now
[06:32] <fujisan> but the height of ignorance and arrogance to call me a troll is just very abrasive and unnecessary
[06:33] <_2> !ot | fujisan stop trolling already.   if you want better support here. pitch in.
[06:33] <fujisan> !abuse | _2
[06:34] <fujisan> I don't appreciate your antics _2 I am not a troll
[06:34] <fujisan> I am just a dissapointed kubuntu user right now
[06:34] <fujisan> you could show some compassion
[06:35] <fujisan> and understanding instead of defamating my character with this "troll" slander
[06:35] <DarkriftX> I thought kubuntu had kde 4.1, not just 4.03
[06:35] <fujisan> you are really out of order _2
[06:35] <fujisan> too bad this channel lacks proper moderation
[06:36] <MrKennie> DarkriftX: not by default, you need to add the repository
[06:36] <DarkriftX> crap
[06:36] <MrKennie> !kde4.1
[06:36] <MrKennie> doh
[06:36] <DarkriftX> if i do so, will it upgrade?
[06:36] <DarkriftX> or will i have to reinstall it
[06:36] <MrKennie> it will upgrade
[06:36] <DarkriftX> nice
[06:36] <MrKennie> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1
[06:37] <MrKennie> includes instructions to install it
[06:37] <aoncoquin> hi
[06:37] <aanderse> 4.2 looks pretty awesome
[06:37] <aoncoquin> does KDE4.1 worth to be dwl ?
[06:37] <aanderse> kdevelop4, amarok2, koffice2
[06:37] <aanderse> mmm
[06:38] <DarkriftX> anyone know what I could google to find the repo? coming up with lots of blanks
[06:39] <MrKennie> DarkriftX: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 <--
[06:39] <DarkriftX> ahh
[06:39] <DarkriftX> damned kde4 installed konq back on here :@
[06:54] <eamon> one of my windows machines keeps asking me for a password when i try to access the shared folders on my ubuntu computer.  but all the other windows machines can access it fine?
[06:55] <eamon> anyone help
[06:57] <eamon> guess not
[07:08] <HeMan> Hi! How do I change virtual desktop with keys in KDE?
[07:10] <jussi01> hrm, I remember it being ctrl+alt + left/right arrows, but could be wrong
[07:10] <HeMan> that's in gnome, won't work in KDE
[07:12] <kuresuna> jussi01, ctrl+alt+arrows works with compiz too so your not 100% wrong
[07:13] <HeMan> doesn't kwin have any key combination to change virtual desktop???
[07:13] <kuresuna> HeMan im not sure
[07:15] <HeMan> seem that ctrl-Fn-keys goes "directly" to desktop 1 to 9
[07:16] <HeMan> but I like to do "indirect" left, right, up and down in some way
[07:16] <jussi01> HeMan: you could always set one...
[07:16] <jussi01> !shortcuts
[07:18] <amen> hi
[07:20] <amen> can anybody help me..the speaker isn't mute when i jack in the headphone,i had to unmute it by by self
[07:20] <HeMan> was the shortcut-info for me?
[07:21] <amen> audio devide : Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[07:21] <HeMan> it doesn't give any information on how to do "relative" movements, ie left-right-up-down
[07:22] <HeMan> hmm, the ctrl-Fx does only work up to my forth desktop as well
[07:22] <jussi01> !intelhda > amen
[07:23] <amen> yes
[07:23] <amen> i had sent...
[07:23] <amen> *see
[07:24] <HeMan> is anyone actually using kwin?
[07:24] <HeMan> or does everyone run compiz?
[07:24] <alakhia> kwin is default, right?
[07:26] <HeMan> i don't know, I decided to switch to KDE when 4.0 was released
[07:26] <alakhia> i'm still on 3.5.10 so I think that still uses kwin
[07:27] <HeMan> nobody could tell me how to change virtual desktop with the keyboard then so I changed back
[07:27] <alakhia> yup, ps | grep kwin shows that it is running
[07:27] <HeMan> if I cant get "relative" movements to work now I'll change back to gnome once more
[07:28] <HeMan> but I really like to try KDE so I rather have a solution for it
[07:28] <alakhia> I decided to stay with kde3 ... i works for what I need
[07:29] <alakhia> i use gnome at work ... with a few settings changed for my taste
[07:30] <alakhia> with kde3, it is easy to change virtual desktops via shortcut
[07:30] <amen> hi abby87
[07:31] <abby87> amen: hi
[07:31] <HeMan> alakhia: I can change with ctrl-Fx, but only up to forth desktop and I like to do left, right, up and down
[07:32] <alakhia> HeMan: they have probably reorgd the system settings completely
[07:32] <alakhia> HeMan: for me, I go to system settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Shortcuts
[07:33] <alakhia> if I search for "next desktop" i find the setting I need to modify
[07:36] <HeMan> alakhia: finally! thanks!
[07:37] <alakhia> HeMan: great!
[07:38] <HeMan> hmm, it wraps
[07:39] <HeMan> if I'm on the right most and press right I get on the leftmost
[07:40] <alakhia> HeMan: yup, it wraps for me too
[07:41] <HeMan> how to turn that off?
[07:41] <alakhia> no idea ... try google?
[07:43] <alakhia> google is not much help for me
[07:44] <johnmatrix> just works my ass!
[07:46] <HeMan> johnmatrix: who is working your ass? :P
[07:46] <johnmatrix> ubuntu
[07:46] <johnmatrix> kubuntu
[07:47] <johnmatrix> nah serious question, is there any actual different between installing kubuntu vs installing ubuntu and then installing kde4?
[07:47] <johnmatrix> *difference
[07:50] <Dr_willis> johnmatrix,  not really. You just get all the tools from both.
[07:50] <Dr_willis> I normally install both.
[07:50] <johnmatrix> alright cool
[07:51] <johnmatrix> i spent about 6 hours trying to get my second LCD to display at 1280x1024 :(
[07:51] <Dr_willis> I normaly have ubuntu+kde+kde4 on this machine
[07:51] <johnmatrix> not a good start
[07:51] <Dr_willis> With my nvidia card - getting the 2nd montior working takes about... err... 30 sec. :)
[07:51] <johnmatrix> yeah i have nvidia aswell
[07:51] <johnmatrix> i installed nvidia driver and nvidia-settings
[07:52] <johnmatrix> but it only had 640x480
[07:52] <johnmatrix> if i changed the xorg.conf to 1280x1024 my lcd said no signal
[07:52] <johnmatrix> had to add that modeline crap to the xorg.conf, but the image isn't aligned properly still..
[07:52] <Dr_willis> Normally once i get nvidia and nvidia-settings installed it sees the res right. if not i tweak it with nvidia-settings or nvidia-xconfig
[07:52] <Dr_willis> If using a DVI monitor - its MUCH less a problem.
[07:53] <johnmatrix> yeah my DVI monitor works fine
[07:53] <johnmatrix> just the other one being a bitch
[07:53] <Dr_willis> Ive finally tossed all my nondvi monitors
[07:53] <Dr_willis> and convinced most guys at work to do the same. :) they were all like... "why dident you tell me to toss them out earlier!"
[07:54] <johnmatrix> lol
[07:55] <DarkriftX> After making changes in the effects tab for kde4, i logged out then tried to login and i get something about an error has occured, check the kdm logs or contact admin..... ive tried kde3, failsafe etc. what can i do to set the settings back
[07:55] <Dr_willis> Next step is hdmi conectors I guess...
[07:55] <johnmatrix> nah hdmi is just dvi plus audio
[07:55] <Dr_willis> then we can get 4+ monitors on   a single card. :)
[07:55] <Dr_willis> smaller plug. :)  Ive noticed most of the new tv's out have 2+ hdmi conectors also.
[07:56] <skinnymg1> hello good people of the irc realm
[07:56] <Dr_willis> that way i can get rid of using this svideo out.
[07:56] <johnmatrix> good day kind sir
[07:56] <skinnymg1> hows everyones day going so far
[07:57] <johnmatrix> its been a fine day, how about you?
[07:57] <johnmatrix> what is the most popular software for website development?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> vi :)
[07:57] <skinnymg1> mine is about to end its actually 3:00 a.m. here
[07:58] <johnmatrix> anything dreamweaver-esqe?
[07:59] <skinnymg1> no not really just waiting to go pick up the gf from work
[08:05] <alakhia> my day is coming to an end ... it's midnight
[08:06] <alakhia> nvu?
[08:06] <Dr_willis> its 3 am here. :)
[08:06] <Dr_willis> linch time.
[08:07] <HeMan> johnmatrix: hdmi is dvi plus audio plus cripple...
[08:07] <alakhia> johnmatrix: have you used nvu?
[08:09] <johnmatrix> nah i havn't, i havn't used linux for years
[08:09] <johnmatrix> just installed it yesterday
[08:09] <johnmatrix> hoping it was somewhat easier than it was back then :P
[08:09] <alakhia> how is it going so far?
[08:10] <alakhia> using linux, that is
[08:10] <alakhia> i use linux at work and home
[08:10] <johnmatrix> well the installed didnt support my mouse, and i was up til 7am trying to get my second monitors resolution to go higher than 640x480
[08:10] <johnmatrix> so not all that flash so far
[08:11] <johnmatrix> *installer
[08:11] <Dr_willis> what sort of  mouse was  not supported?
[08:11] <johnmatrix> its a usb cordless mouse
[08:11] <alakhia> oh, that's too bad ... i am glad your persistence is paying off though
[08:11] <Dr_willis> Hmm..  ive yet to track down a mouse that dident work...  and egads i must have 20+ of the things. :) logitech and ms wireless and so on.
[08:12] <Dr_willis> Most of them dont even need drivers under windows except for special features.. weird that it dident work
[08:12] <johnmatrix> it worked once i booted into ubuntu, but not when i was installing it
[08:13] <Dr_willis> I alwyas use the alternative-text based installer.   so i dont need a mouse tehre. Heh
[08:14] <johnmatrix> hehe
[08:16] <johnmatrix> im using vista at the moment, and it is running beautifully.. but i got an urge to try ubuntu. trying to make the switch
[08:17] <Dr_willis> ive had a few isssues with vista -  nothing major.. but no real improvements over xp from what ive seen either..
[08:18] <HeMan> I had to the switch from linux to XP after 7 years of linux only
[08:18] <alakhia> why so, HeMan?
[08:18] <HeMan> MAN what XP is backwards!
[08:19] <HeMan> i'm working as a consultant and the customer was running XP on the desktop
[08:19] <alakhia> i hate vista with a vengence
[08:19] <HeMan> they are developing for linux so it's a odd decision to run XP on the desktops
[08:20] <HeMan> fortunately my machine was part of their Ubuntu pilot!
[08:20] <johnmatrix> alakhia why so?
[08:20] <alakhia> i use virtual box for a few things I have to have XP for (taxes and photoshop) ... that works well enuf
[08:20] <HeMan> so I just had to run windows for 2 months
[08:21] <HeMan> but I hated every minute of it
[08:22] <johnmatrix> i tried opera browser , seemed very buggy
[08:22] <johnmatrix> on linux
[08:22] <johnmatrix> i love it on windows
[08:22] <alakhia> johnmatrix: 1), it was the annoying boxes asking for permission, 2) would get screen resolution messed up out of the blue, 3) explorer didn't work the same way, 4) copy, move, delete operations were slow ...
[08:22] <HeMan> oh well, have to go, bye!
[08:22] <johnmatrix> ahh fair enough, most of those are easily fixed tho :)
[08:23] <alakhia> johnmatrix: i was also looking for a reson to switch to linux, i guess
[08:24] <alakhia> johnmatrix: with vista, it was easier to convince wife to give linux a try
[08:25] <johnmatrix> hehe yeah understandable
[08:25] <alakhia> she complained bitterly the first few weeks and wanted XP
[08:25] <alakhia> now, she's gotten used to it
[08:26] <level1> hi, I have a 32 bit install and a 64 bit install.  I want use apt on the 64 bit install without rebooting, but I can't chroot.  Is there anything I can do?
[08:26] <level1> like, can I get apt a special root?
[08:27] <alakhia> why can't you chroot, level1?
[08:27] <level1> alakhia: you can't chroot from a 32 bit system to a 64 bit system.  its just impossible
[08:27] <level1> that would be like upgrading your kernel
[08:27] <johnmatrix> im off too, seeyas!
[08:28] <alakhia> level1: you have a 64-bit machine?
[08:28] <level1> its a 64bit processor.  My OS is still 32 bit
[08:29] <level1> I'm experimenting with 64 bit
[08:29] <level1> the thing is that X is in an usuable state on that machine
[08:29] <level1> I wonder beyond deleting and regenerating xorg.conf, what I can do to fix X
[08:30] <alakhia> level1: i don't know enough to be of help in your case
[08:30] <DarkriftX> anyone know how to start kde4 from command line?
[08:30] <DarkriftX> or to make startx start kde4 instead of 3?
[08:31] <alakhia> perhaps come back when its daytime here? More people to read your questiion then?
[08:32] <level1> DarkriftX: didn't we meet yesterday?
[08:33] <DarkriftX> few days ago
[08:33] <alakhia> DarkriftX: any reason why you can't choose by launching kdm?
[08:33] <DarkriftX> kdm is screwed up
[08:33] <level1> DarkriftX: can you start a failsafe session?
[08:34] <DarkriftX> nope
[08:34] <DarkriftX> all session types fail
[08:34] <level1>  /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde
[08:34] <DarkriftX> gives error about $display not set
[08:34] <level1> but that will only work once you can log in to failsafe
[08:34] <level1> ouch
[08:34] <DarkriftX> needs the scripts in startx to run
[08:34] <level1> you might have more problems there buddy
[08:35] <level1> DarkriftX: try installing gdm and switching to that
[08:35] <alakhia> or reinstall kdm perhaps?
[08:35] <DarkriftX> i uninstalled and reinstalled the whole kde4 group
[08:35] <DarkriftX> but now instead of loading kdm, i get a prompt
[08:35] <level1> DarkriftX: do you still have kdm/kde3?
[08:36] <DarkriftX> id assume so
[08:37] <level1> whats the command to change display managers?
[08:37] <DarkriftX> i think editing /etc/X11/default-display-manager does it
[08:38] <DarkriftX> trying that now
[08:38] <DarkriftX> seems to work, sorta
[08:38] <DarkriftX> nope
[08:38] <DarkriftX> fails with usplash errors about my resolution
[08:38] <level1> uh thats not the best wa
[08:38] <alakhia> is X running?
[08:38] <level1> I think you have a borked X
[08:39] <DarkriftX> probably
[08:39] <DarkriftX> how do i get into that xorg config?
[08:39] <alakhia> can you do: startx
[08:39] <DarkriftX> i could a min ago
[08:39] <DarkriftX> brings up kde3
[08:39] <level1> DarkriftX: be hardcore and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:39] <DarkriftX> which i guess I could live with
[08:39] <alakhia> oh, so X sounds ok ...
[08:39] <level1> thats the way haxors do it
[08:40] <DarkriftX> i prefer console then startx actually
[08:40] <DarkriftX> used to it from my debian box
[08:40] <DarkriftX> but id like to have the option of kde3/4
[08:40] <DarkriftX> screw kdm
[08:40] <DarkriftX> and there i am
[08:40] <level1> heh
[08:41] <alakhia> well, i'm going off to bed ... later guys
[08:41] <DarkriftX> gn
[09:13] <predator> k
[09:13] <predator> hi
[09:15] <Dr_willis> !hi
[09:27] <lenk> hi everyone
[09:27] <lenk> i've got one question...
[09:27] <Dr_willis> Ok....
[09:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:28] <lenk> i'm upgrading kubuntu to 8.04
[09:28] <lenk> and i'd like to put kde4
[09:28] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[09:28] <lenk> is there some pages where i can find how to change my kde
[09:28] <lenk> ?
[09:29] <Dr_willis> There ya go... :) takes about 10 sec to do the commands to set it up.. and a few min to download/install kde4
[09:29] <lenk> ok thanks!
[09:29] <Dr_willis> Then ya got kde4 and kde3 in the session menus on the kdm login screen
[09:30] <lenk> and i can choose...great!
[09:32] <Dr_willis> be a bit annoying if you coudlent choose. :)
[09:32] <Dr_willis> imagine windows having this flexibility. :P ha!
[09:33] <lenk> yep!!
[09:44] <lenk> and one more question...which client irc is best for kubuntu?
[09:45] <cmoreno> hello
[09:47] <Dr_willis> !hi
[09:47] <cmoreno> thanks
[09:47] <cmoreno> i  m   new here
[09:48] <HollowPoint> evenin all
[09:48] <Dr_willis> Thats fine. :)
[10:01] <baudthief> is there a way to view connections to samba shares? ie: open "files"
[10:01] <vassili> hi all
[10:01] <vassili> тут есть кто из русских?
[10:01] <baudthief> that russian? :P
[10:02] <vassili> you right
[10:02] <Dr_willis> looks backwards to me. :
[10:02] <Dr_willis> !ru
[10:03] <Dr_willis> baudthief,  you may want to check out the 'using samba' book and other docs in the 'samba-doc' package.
[10:04] <baudthief> Мне, как русские, но меня Арабская
[10:04] <baudthief> hooray for google translate
[10:04] <baudthief> Dr_willis: gah, rtfm always - help a brother out :P
[10:05] <vassili> о
[10:05] <vassili> здарова, чувак
[10:05] <Dr_willis> baudthief,  its the defacto docs :)
[10:05] <Dr_willis> theres like 4 books on samba in that package.
[10:05] <baudthief> yeah, BOOKS though :P
[10:05] <Dr_willis> in short.. im sure there is.. i dont know exactlyu.. and id have to go read to find out.
[10:05] <Dr_willis> thats what the index is for.
[10:07] <baudthief> :(
[10:07]  * baudthief rtfm's
[10:12] <indent> Hi all
[10:12] <indent> i need a help
[10:12] <indent> does anybody free to help here?
[10:12] <baudthief> depends on the question I guess :P
[10:12] <indent> ok..
[10:13] <indent> 1st: i already install WinXP pro SP2
[10:13] <indent> then..after that
[10:13] <indent> i install ubuntu
[10:14] <indent> and now..i cant boot into my windows
[10:14] <indent> simply said...i lost my windows after install ubuntu
[10:14] <indent> can some4body help me to resolve this problem?
[10:14] <HollowPoint> Your first mistake was installing windows at all, (I'm joking) but when you say you can't boot what do you mean? Does it give an error message? If you boot into Ubuntu can you see the Windows drive?
[10:15] <indent> yes
[10:15] <HollowPoint> Did you install both on the same drive, different drives? Did you tell Ubuntu installation to use entire drive
[10:15] <indent> windows is still inside my drive
[10:15] <indent> same drive
[10:15] <indent> i use manual
[10:15] <indent> not entire drive
[10:15] <HollowPoint> and when the Ubuntu Boot Loader (GRUB) starts up does it give Windows as an option to install?
[10:15] <indent> u mean during the installation?
[10:16] <HollowPoint> no now
[10:16] <indent> nope
[10:16] <HollowPoint> when you try to boot up you will be given the Ubuntu boot loader
[10:16] <indent> its directly boot into ubuntu
[10:16] <indent> b4 this i already use dual boot
[10:17] <indent> and its working good
[10:17] <indent> i can select between winxp and ubuntu
[10:17] <indent> but now..it didnt show the selection
[10:17] <HollowPoint> ah
[10:17] <indent> its directly boot into ubuntu
[10:17]  * baudthief eats popcorn
[10:17] <indent> ?
[10:17] <HollowPoint> you're positive that Windows is still on the drive? You can access files from Ubuntu?
[10:17] <indent> yes
[10:18] <indent> very sure
[10:18] <baudthief> bootsector :P
[10:18] <indent> what did u mean baudthief?
[10:18] <indent> actually i'm just a newbie
[10:19] <indent> can u please help me by givint step by step instruction?
[10:19] <indent> *giving
[10:19] <HollowPoint> can you pastebin the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst please and then give us the link to the pastebin?
[10:20] <baudthief> indent: nothing really, your bootsector has been overwritten - in the old days you could run "FDISK /MBR" under dos and get it restored, but then you'd lose linux :P Need to find a way to get GRUB to allow you to choose a boot partition
[10:20] <baudthief> there you go, HollowPoint is on the case ;p
[10:20] <HollowPoint> :P
[10:20] <indent> ok..hold on
[10:21] <baudthief> It's fun explaining what Kubuntu and "Feisty Fawn" etc mean to windows users - they dont get it, and think its stupid
[10:22] <baudthief> mind you Longhorn wasn't any better, but hey, what can you do :P
[10:22] <HollowPoint> that's actually just prompted me to clean up my menu.lst lol had a load of old kernels in there
[10:22] <HollowPoint> well LongHorn just sounded dirty, Feisty Fawn sounds like a cute animal
[10:22] <HollowPoint> Hoary was a bit close to the bone obviously
[10:23] <baudthief> bone indeed :p
[10:23] <HollowPoint> mind you Hardy Heron isn't exactly clean lol
[10:23] <indent> here it is
[10:23] <indent> http://www.mediafire.com/?l3gwfzxwxy1
[10:23] <baudthief> I dont mind the names lol, I think they're awesome - but to the lamers (haha get it? lamers? Not lamen?)
[10:24] <baudthief> blah, tough crowd.
[10:24] <HollowPoint> lol
[10:24] <indent> that is my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:24] <baudthief> wow mediafire sucks ass
[10:25] <HollowPoint> Windows is in that list
[10:25] <indent> how about that Hollow?
[10:25] <HollowPoint> It's just not the default option
[10:25] <indent> that one i create new
[10:25] <indent> but its not working
[10:25] <HollowPoint> you need to edit that file
[10:25] <indent> by default..it didnt show any windows title
[10:26] <indent> so..how to edit correctly?
[10:26] <HollowPoint> find the line timeout 3 and change it to timeout 10
[10:26] <HollowPoint> that should give you enough time to select Windows at the bottom of the list
[10:26] <indent> i can select it
[10:27] <indent> but its not working
[10:27] <indent> maybe i've edit it in a wrong way
[10:27] <HollowPoint> what is the error when you select it?
[10:27] <indent> error:12..if i'm not mistaken
[10:27] <indent> invalid device
[10:27] <HollowPoint> ah ok
[10:28] <indent> did u need to see my fdisk -l?
[10:28] <HollowPoint> well first off instead of using mediafire, try to use the http://paste.ubuntu.com as at the top of this room
[10:28] <HollowPoint> you'll be given a link to what you've pasted and when you paste that here it's quicker for us to view and help you
[10:29] <HollowPoint> secondly yes fdisk -l might be helpful,
[10:30] <indent> ok
[10:30] <indent> here it is
[10:30] <indent> http://paste.ubuntu.com/41809/
[10:31] <HollowPoint> wow thats a lot of partions lol
[10:31] <indent> so..what is the correct way to edit the menu.lst file by refering to my fdisk -l?
[10:31] <indent> yeah..
[10:31] <Dr_willis> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:31] <Dr_willis> perhaps.. dependond on what you want to do. :)
[10:32] <HollowPoint> lol he's got that part Dr_willis
[10:32] <Dr_willis> also grub checks the /boot/grub/device.map :)
[10:32] <Dr_willis> then why did he ask? :P
[10:32] <HollowPoint> indent, I think the menu.lst has the correct partition, however I'm not sure you've run grub and defined the partitions it should look for
[10:32] <HollowPoint> menu.lst is only one part of grub, you also need to run grub from the command line and have it check the partitions etc
[10:33] <indent> how can do that?
[10:33] <indent> please help me Hollow..coz i'm just a newbie
[10:33] <Dr_willis> 'sudo update-grub'
[10:33] <HollowPoint> that could do the trick yes
[10:33] <Dr_willis> rereads/reinstalls the grub loader from the info in the menu.lst file
[10:33] <indent> i'll try it now Dr_Wilis
[10:33] <indent> i'll try it now Dr_Willis
[10:33] <Dr_willis> the grub homepage/docs are worth reading some time. :)
[10:33] <Dr_willis> lots of good info on that page
[10:33] <HollowPoint> lol indeed
[10:33] <Dr_willis> Grub is sort of amazing in what all it can do
[10:34] <HollowPoint> I wouldn't go that far but it's certainly a lot more advanced now than it was a few years ago
[10:34] <indent> Found kernel: /vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic
[10:35] <indent> Found kernel: /memtest86+.bin
[10:35] <indent> that is the result for updating grub
[10:35] <indent> is it ok?
[10:36] <HollowPoint> doesn't appear to have found the windows kernel from that
[10:36] <indent> yeah..
[10:36] <indent> that's a problem
[10:36] <indent> what should i do now?
[10:38] <HollowPoint> Is it Grub giving you the error or does it start to boot Windows and then Windows gives the error?
[10:39] <indent> grub didnt show any error
[10:39] <indent> only windows giving me an error
[10:39] <HollowPoint> Windows doesn't tend to like booting if it isn't on the first partition on the hard drive, you have it on partition 5
[10:39] <indent> so,how can i make it change into 1st partition?
[10:40] <HollowPoint> ah no hold on
[10:40] <indent> are u sure that i edit the menu.lst correctly by refering to my fdisk -l?
[10:40] <HollowPoint> no I don't think you have
[10:42] <indent> then?
[10:42] <HollowPoint> I think menu.lst should be rootnoverify (hd0,1) but technically speaking Windows isn't going to like booting from a logical partition no matter how you do it
[10:42] <indent> by the way, what is the command to show the size of the partition?
[10:43] <HollowPoint> if you type df you can see the partitions and the useage
[10:43] <HollowPoint> The normal way to have a dualboot would be to have two extended partitions, Windows in the first and all the Linux logical partitions in the second extended partition, Windows prefers to be at the start of the disk and all on it's lonesome
[10:44] <indent> i think that i install it correctly..
[10:45] <indent> when i install windows, i already make one more partition
[10:45] <indent> after that then i install ubuntu into that free partition
[10:45] <HollowPoint> according to your fdisk -l you have one extended partition which spans the entire disk
[10:45] <HollowPoint> then you have several logical partitions
[10:46] <indent> so...what did u think?
[10:46] <indent> can i still recover my windows?
[10:46] <testi_> I wish to delete all personal data that konqueror holds. What must I do?
[10:47] <HollowPoint> indent > it's hard to say. Did Windows have any data in it or could you live with killing the whole drive and starting again, it would probably be quicker
[10:48] <indent> actually..i'm too lazy to install all the programs that i already have in windows
[10:48] <indent> i can reinstall windows back
[10:48] <indent> but the problem now is..
[10:48] <Dr_willis> lazy is as lazy does. :)
[10:48] <indent> when i try to boot from my CD..
[10:48] <HollowPoint> The easiest way with Ubuntu/Kubuntu is to install Windows on the drive and not do ANY partitioning in during the Windows Installation, then you install Ubuntu and simply select the guided (Re-size partion sda1 and use remaining space on the disk) option
[10:49] <HollowPoint> that allows you to select how much you wish to reduce the Windows partition by and go from there
[10:49] <indent> its stop respond..
[10:49] <indent> with a blank screen
[10:49] <HollowPoint> Windows?
[10:49] <indent> tried several time already
[10:49] <indent> yeah
[10:50] <indent> windows
[10:50] <indent> it can detect my OS CD
[10:50] <HollowPoint> Windows install CDs are known for hanging on boot up if Linux is on the main system hard drive, it's ok, you simply have to leave it for some time (I've waited upto 15 minutes for Windows Installer before)
[10:51] <indent> i've leave it for whole night already
[10:51] <indent> but it is still blank
[10:51] <HollowPoint> or you could boot up in Kubuntu Live CD, delete all partitions in fdisk so that the drive is clean, then boot from Windows CD (Which should not boot quickly) and start with installing Windows, using the ENTIRE drive, then while installing Ubuntu re-size the Windows partition
[10:52] <HollowPoint> not should be now *
[10:52] <testi_> When I type something into google search, it lists many older searches. I want to delete these entries. How can I do that? I use Konqueror as Browser.
[10:53] <HollowPoint> delete the history in konqueror
[10:57] <testi_> Okay, I deleted the history in Konqueror, but the entries remain.
[10:58] <testi_> @HollowPoint
[10:58] <HollowPoint> close and re-open konqueror
[10:59] <indent> ok..i'll try
[10:59] <Dr_willis> windows answer = reboot.
[10:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:59] <HollowPoint> lol
[11:00] <Dr_willis> windows answer = reboot, reformat, reinstall, reformat again...
[11:01] <HollowPoint> Linux Answer = Remove Windows, Install Linux
[11:01] <testi_> HollowPoint: Okay, I closed all instances of konqueror and reopened it, but the entries remain.
[11:01] <Dr_willis> Linux Answer = RTFine Manual
[11:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:03] <HollowPoint> I'm not sure then testi, I don't tend to use Konqueror, anyone else got any idea how to remove the search history from Konqueror other than deleting it's history?
[11:04] <Dr_willis> how many ways do you want? :)
[11:04] <testi_> The right one
[11:04] <HollowPoint> lol
[11:04] <Dr_willis> logout/back in perhaps? reboot?
[11:05] <testi_> There is either an extremely heavy usability issue with Konqueror here, i'm stupid or konquerors privacy functions are not dependable
[11:05] <testi_> I'll try, but I think it's stupid :D
[11:06] <HollowPoint> all three is always possible when it comes to Linux, never forget that
[11:06] <Dr_willis> The normal #windows answer is 'Quit going to those porn sites' :)
[11:06] <testi_> Hehe
[11:06] <Dr_willis> and 'go buy this $30 crippleware program to 'make your browsing safe' '
[11:07] <HollowPoint> IE7 costs $30 now?
[11:08] <Dr_willis> No.. these spammy-ad-cripple ware apps you see all over  web sites that 'fix' your browser/secure your browser/and so forth. :) are like $30
[11:08] <Dr_willis> Unless you have adblock installed. :)
[11:08] <HollowPoint> or just download firefox and problem solved lol
[11:11] <testi_> Yeah, looks like konqueror is undependable in that case. I'm going to delete it the unusual hackish way, on the filesystem.
[11:12] <HollowPoint> testi_ out of curiousity why don't you use Firefox instead?
[11:13] <testi_> I'm going to use firefox now. Such undependable behaviour is not acceptable.
[11:14] <testi_> Where on the filesystem are these entries stored?
[11:15] <Dr_willis> I would guess .kde*
[11:15] <HollowPoint> most likely
[11:15] <testi_> I don't want to delete the whole :D
[11:16] <Dr_willis> time to get exporing in there then.
[11:16] <PhilRod> don't delete ~/.kde - just move it out of the way
[11:17] <Dr_willis> or LOOK in .kde and find the right stuff to delete.
[11:17] <PhilRod> right
[11:17] <PhilRod> deleting the whole thing is asking for trouble though
[11:18] <HollowPoint> me thinks Dr_willis has the better option
[11:18]  * HollowPoint thinks Dr_willis has the better option
[11:18] <Dr_willis> 'stop going to those porn sites' ?
[11:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:19] <HollowPoint> that one primarily yes lol
[11:19] <HollowPoint> although internet wouldn't be much fun without porn
[11:19] <HollowPoint> a better slogan would be use Linux and Firefox to view as many porn sites as you like
[11:21] <Dr_willis> dont forget 'Tor'
[11:21] <Dr_willis> !tor
[11:34] <MrKennie> just wondering, the console resolution seems low, is it possible to change it to a higher resolution?
[11:34] <MrKennie> it seems to mess up the laptop osd
[11:35] <Dr_willis> the framebuffer feature of the console can up its res. but  thats NOT the same as the X res.
[11:35] <Dr_willis> what are you doing in the console anyway?
[11:35] <MrKennie> yea, I remember from when I used debian I set vga to 791 which was perfect for my needs
[11:36] <MrKennie> sometimes I like to be a purist :)
[11:36] <Dr_willis> You can do that from the menu.lst
[11:36] <Dr_willis> I normally disable the framebuffer
[11:36] <MrKennie> yea, but I think console-setup changes it during boot time
[11:36] <Dr_willis> Not that ive noticed.
[11:36] <Dr_willis> consoel-setup sets the fonts i belive
[11:37] <MrKennie> also I've got a hunch that changing the resolution will fix the osd corruption
[11:37] <Dr_willis> OSD on the console? You watching videos in the console?
[11:37] <MrKennie> I'll try the grub approach first and see what happens
[11:37] <MrKennie> well, not in console it's the laptop osd
[11:37] <Dr_willis> theres also the fbset command that can change the res on the fly
[11:38]  * Dr_willis has no idea what ya mean by 'osd' then.
[11:38] <MrKennie> like when I change the brightness I get a small osd showing brightness level
[11:38]  * HollowPoint joins in the conversation and agrees with Dr_willis
[11:38] <MrKennie> well it should, I just get a garbled blue box
[11:38] <Dr_willis> You even see that in the  console? thats interesting...
[11:38] <Dr_willis> must be done in the hardware/bios
[11:38] <HollowPoint> that isn't anything to do with the console
[11:39] <HollowPoint> that'll be the bios/flash on the monitor
[11:39] <MrKennie> you know like on some tft monitors, they have like an osd when you change settings
[11:39] <HollowPoint> yup, got what you mean, changing the fb res in console won't make that ungarbled
[11:40] <Dr_willis> install fbset, try changing res. try the osd.. try next res... so on and so on.. :)
[11:40] <HollowPoint> you can change your resolution, brightness levels etc in your OS and it won't touch the OSD
[11:40] <MrKennie> ah yes, fbset! cool thanks
[11:41] <Dr_willis> gee how often ya even mess with the  brightness and stuff anyway. :)
[11:41] <MrKennie> there is a method to my madness. I'll experiment.
[11:41] <Dr_willis> volume control perhaps....
[11:41] <HollowPoint> gl
[11:41] <MrKennie> well, when the screensaver kicks in it sets my brightness to 100%
[11:41] <MrKennie> which is wrong really, it shouldn't even touch it
[11:41] <HollowPoint> what laptop is this? I'll be sure not to buy one
[11:41] <MrKennie> lol
[11:42] <Dr_willis> I normally have mine at 100% anyway :)
[11:42] <MrKennie> everything just works out of the box on this
[11:42] <HollowPoint> are you from the sun?
[11:42] <MrKennie> I don't like bright displays, just my preference
[11:42] <HollowPoint> that question was aimed at Dr_willis mate
[11:42] <HollowPoint> or you just got a crappy monitor?
[11:43] <Dr_willis> Im allowed to ghave my own prefferances.. :P
[11:43] <HollowPoint> NO no you're not!
[11:43] <HollowPoint> lol
[11:45]  * Dr_willis adjusts the colors so the people are all greenish on his videos
[11:45] <HollowPoint> lol
[11:45] <MrKennie> hm, seems I need to configure a fb driver first. Google time
[11:45] <HollowPoint> lol
[11:45] <HollowPoint> vesa ftw!
[11:45] <Dr_willis> Hmm what video card?
[11:45] <MrKennie> intel
[11:46] <Dr_willis> normally you set the vesa=thing in grub and it loads the framebuffer I thought
[11:46]  * HollowPoint jumps up and down shouting VESA VESA VESA!
[11:46] <MrKennie> 945GM to be exact
[11:46] <stdin> framebuffer modules are blacklisted
[11:46] <HollowPoint> HP Laptop then?
[11:46] <stdin> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer
[11:46] <MrKennie> nothing fancy, it's a gateway
[11:47] <MrKennie> stdin: ok, I'll check that
[11:49] <MrKennie> straight vesafb or intelfb?
[11:49] <Dr_willis> vesafb is the generic fb.
[11:49] <MrKennie> I should probably go with that first and see how things go then I can break it with the intel one :)
[11:50] <HollowPoint> lol
[11:57] <MrKennie> rebooting, wish me luck. :S
[12:27] <danboid> How do I upload a (text) file so that I can link to it on the ubuntu wiki?
[12:30] <danboid> When i'm editing the wiki, I can't see any 'upload file' button
[12:36] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i cheat and just cut/paste :P
[12:37] <Dr_willis> could make a seperate wiki page for it  i guess.. if yu want a link to say a example xorg.conf or similer.
[12:41] <MrKennie> well, that was painless although the intelfb driver didn't work at all.
[12:43] <MrKennie> now why does virtualbox change the brightness too.
[12:47] <MrKennie> hm, xserver bug, oh well.
[12:47] <XeRiN> !adept-fix
[12:47] <XeRiN> !adept
[12:48] <XeRiN> !adept-crash
[12:48] <XeRiN> what was the fix thing?
[12:48] <geek_> ! apt-fix
[12:48] <geek_> that? :)
[12:49] <XeRiN> ya
[12:49] <XeRiN> thanks :D
[12:50] <geek_> next time though PM ubottu when blindly blungering through !THINGGIES ;p
[12:50] <XeRiN> lol
[12:59] <mrksbrd> Mrkennie: has that sixsleep guy been back @ all since thursday night?
[13:00] <Dr_willis> I often wonder what happens to such people... :)
[13:00] <Dr_willis> hes proberly still loading on more games to his outdated system?
[13:00] <mrksbrd> lol
[13:00] <MrKennie> mrksbrd: I've not seen him
[13:01] <MrKennie> I just discovered virtualboxes seamless mode :P
[13:01] <Dr_willis> Ive not messed with that yet. :) seen some mention of it MrKennie
[13:02] <Dr_willis> i was thinkinb the next vmware was to have similer  feature
[13:02] <MrKennie> it's crazy
[13:03] <geek_> seamless mode?
[13:03] <MrKennie> very cool though, it means I can test IE more seamlessly when developing
[13:03] <geek_> ahh
[13:03] <geek_> it forwards single windows?
[13:03] <MrKennie> well, it kinda goes fullscreen but keeping your linux desktop
[13:04] <MrKennie> very nice feature indeed
[13:05] <Dr_willis> kinda goes fullscreen?
[13:05] <MrKennie> well, it sort of overlays your current desktop
[13:06] <MrKennie> so if running windows you get the taskbar at the bottom and the rest is your current desktop
[13:06] <MrKennie> running windows as the guest os that is
[13:06] <Dr_willis> so ya gotta move the kde panel to the top?
[13:06] <geek_> bleh
[13:06] <geek_> i kinda prefer the current options then
[13:06] <MrKennie> well, you could move the windows task bar to the top instead
[13:06]  * geek_ would like some way to just forward a single windows window
[13:07] <mrksbrd> i know its not the room, but have u guys messed with project looking glass @ all?
[13:07] <MrKennie> heard of it
[13:07] <Dr_willis> mrksbrd,  is that the java 3d-desktop thinggie?
[13:07] <mrksbrd> yea
[13:08] <Dr_willis> about the only time i hear of it now a days is when someone stumbles upon it.. and tries it and asks in here about it.. and we note that the thing has sort of been dead for years.. :)
[13:08] <Dr_willis> it was a big 'thing' a few yrs back. and as far as i can tell there hasent been any progress done to it in ages
[13:08] <MrKennie> it was only in a magazine last year
[13:08] <mrksbrd> actually it was last updated in feb of 08
[13:08] <Dr_willis>  so there was finally some updates eh? :)
[13:08] <mrksbrd> keep getting error when installing .deb file
[13:09] <Dr_willis> I seem to recall it being out  about 3 yrs ago.
[13:09] <mrksbrd> yea
[13:09] <mrksbrd> let me grab u the link
[13:09] <Dr_willis> http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/
[13:10] <MrKennie> it is the one I have read about.
[13:10] <mrksbrd> https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/binary-builds.html#latestubuntu
[13:10] <Dr_willis>     *   Linux x86 Mega Bundle 19 December 2006 License Terms
[13:10] <Dr_willis> Update Feb 22 2008: For support on the latests Ubuntu distributions please see the section below Fiesty/Gutsy(/Hardy?) Ubuntu Build
[13:10] <MrKennie> mega bundle? oh of course, it's java
[13:10] <Dr_willis> here we go.. :)
[13:12] <Dr_willis> Updated in Feb. to let it run on ubuntu.. seems they had to work at changing '#!/bin/sh' to #!/bin/bash :)
[13:13] <Dr_willis> i would still have to say.. it dosent look like its getting much love.
[13:13] <DexterF> hi
[13:13] <DexterF> !grub
[13:13] <MrKennie> I don't think it's about desktops anymore.
[13:14] <MrKennie> it's about what you can do on the internet
[13:14] <Dr_willis> im not sure what its 'about' any more. :)
[13:14] <mrksbrd> yea I should probably just give up on it
[13:14] <Dr_willis> I got 10x the machine now to run it.. perhaops it will be useable! :)
[13:14] <MrKennie> if I need eye candy I just boot mac osx
[13:15]  * Dr_willis boots mac osx out the door.
[13:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:15] <MrKennie> or use kde4.1 with all the fancy effects turned on
[13:15] <mrksbrd> that was my main reason.....eye candy
[13:15] <MrKennie> yea but osx is about eye candy, thats it.
[13:16] <mrksbrd> u running on apple or pc?
[13:16] <MrKennie> vista tries
[13:16] <MrKennie> pc
[13:16] <mrksbrd> intel or amd?
[13:16] <MrKennie> intel duo
[13:16] <mrksbrd> ahh
[13:17] <MrKennie> tried on amd, no go
[13:17] <mrksbrd> tried the one for amd but won't recognize hdd
[13:17] <geek_> lol
[13:17] <MrKennie> downer is no wireless.
[13:17] <mrksbrd> tiger or leopard?
[13:17] <MrKennie> loe
[13:17] <MrKennie> leo
[13:17] <mrksbrd> i thought they resolved that issue
[13:17] <MrKennie> wireless?
[13:18] <mrksbrd> yea
[13:18] <MrKennie> driver support
[13:18] <Dr_willis> Now we all know that OS-X is perfect!
[13:18] <MrKennie> no intel wireless drivers exist
[13:18] <MrKennie> apart from hacked ones based on the linux driver which do not work
[13:19] <mrksbrd> hmmm....i could be wrong, i know they had that prob with tiger
[13:19] <MrKennie> you can get usb wireless adapters that support osx
[13:19] <mrksbrd> maybe thats it
[13:19] <MrKennie> so if i really wanted to I could go that route but I really do not have a real use for it except for showing off my cheap hackintosh
[13:19] <mrksbrd> what intel card u have?
[13:20] <MrKennie> 3945
[13:20] <MrKennie> laptop is a centrino so it's all intel
[13:20] <mrksbrd> leopard run fairly decent
[13:20]  * geek_ never quite saw the allure of OS X
[13:20] <MrKennie> general usage it is very comparable
[13:20] <geek_> tried it, hated it ;p
[13:21] <mrksbrd> geek: all about the hack...lol
[13:21] <MrKennie> it's really just a hyped up *nix
[13:21] <MrKennie> with all the polish
[13:21] <geek_> lol
[13:21] <geek_> i tried it in my old uni cause all the windows and sun boxes were in use
[13:21] <geek_> was... a pain
[13:22] <mrksbrd> i mainly wanted to see if it would work & how well with the AMD
[13:22] <MrKennie> mrksbrd: yea, I tried and tried with different options but I just couldn't get it to go.
[13:23] <mrksbrd> was it regognizing your hdd
[13:23] <MrKennie> still, it's fun
[13:23] <MrKennie> I didn't get that far
[13:23] <mrksbrd> mine is SATA, wouldn't see it
[13:23] <MrKennie> it got the the installer and crashed
[13:23] <mrksbrd> that worked fine for me
[13:24] <MrKennie> after using it on my laptop, I would choose it over windows anyday
[13:25] <MrKennie> but linux still owns me
[13:25] <mrksbrd> don't know if I have to format as OSX partition first or if the installer was supposed to take care of it......either way I gave up
[13:25]  * geek_ is a windows/linux person
[13:25] <mrksbrd> here here !!!!!
[13:25] <geek_> i need a solaris VM at some point though ;p
[13:25] <Dr_willis> BeOS!
[13:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:25]  * Dr_willis runs away
[13:26] <geek_> i'm waiting for haiku ;p
[13:26] <MrKennie> I don't use windows on principal and the fact it's just plain nasty
[13:26] <Dr_willis> geek_,  i think it will be a long wait
[13:26] <MrKennie> haha, beos
[13:26] <geek_> Dr_willis: i'm in no rush
[13:26] <geek_> MrKennie:  "nasty"?
[13:26] <MrKennie> yea, nasty
[13:26] <mrksbrd> yea especially vista.....i hold it on same lines as ME
[13:26] <MrKennie> rushed
[13:26] <Dr_willis> geek_,  perhaps your great great great grandkids will be able to run Netscape 3.0 on it
[13:26] <MrKennie> and it hasn't really changed since 95
[13:26] <geek_> Dr_willis: well the current builds are nice
[13:27] <MrKennie> I mean it has of course, but basically it's the same
[13:27] <geek_> mrksbrd: erf. windows wise, XP or nothing
[13:27] <Dr_willis> geek_,  not tried any in the last 8 months. :)
[13:27] <Dr_willis> Im waiting for the next AmigaOS! :)
[13:27] <MrKennie> and microsoft are eveil
[13:27] <geek_> erm
[13:27] <geek_> evil is a strong word
[13:27] <mrksbrd> yea agree, but all new machines built by the larger company's cannot run XP on them (my case)
[13:28] <MrKennie> geek_: read the halloween stuff yet?
[13:28] <geek_> i'm not a linux user cause i hate windows, i'm a linux user cause i like aspects of linux
[13:28] <geek_> same way i'm a vegitarian not cause i love animals, but cause i hate plants *grin*
[13:28] <geek_> MrKennie: erm.. every company would do that. its busines
[13:28] <geek_> s
[13:29] <MrKennie> what?
[13:29] <MrKennie> doesn't matter anyway
[13:30] <MrKennie> cathedral and the bizzare comes to mind too.
[13:30] <MrKennie> bizarre even? (tired)
[13:31] <MrKennie> I don't like esr much but he writes some good stuff.
[13:31] <mrksbrd> forgive me what r they
[13:31] <geek_> at the end of the day, my decisions should be entirely pragmatic
[13:31] <geek_> what the customer wants and what's best for the job should be all i care about ;p
[13:33] <mrksbrd> geek: good luck on that one...this is the only OS that gives u that
[13:33] <geek_> mrksbrd: lol. i'm on kubuntu on this, and debian for another box. game box is windows XP
[13:35] <mrksbrd> yea u have them all covered ...lol
[13:36] <geek_> lol
[13:36] <MrKennie> only game I play now is ET
[13:36] <geek_> i also have a BEOS vm somewhere
[13:36] <geek_> and a copy of solaris, and os/2 warp somewhere around. the latter a DVD sun shipped me
[13:36] <geek_> oh, and i'm getting an IRIX box next month. need an adaptor/monitor though
[13:36] <mrksbrd> good god....as a dust collector....
[13:37] <MrKennie> lol
[13:37] <LinuxReign> MrKennie, Wolfenstein 2 is on its way, hopefully will have a Linux installer :)
[13:37] <mrksbrd> electric company must love u
[13:37] <MrKennie> ooh =)
[13:37] <geek_> they don't run all the time ;p
[13:37] <mrksbrd> lol oh ok
[13:37] <geek_> my laptop and the windows box do
[13:37] <MrKennie> ET is old but it's so much fun. I wish there was a deb for it in medibuntu or something.
[13:37] <geek_> swapping the windows box for an old passively cooled PIII since i run my 'server' in a VM on that
[13:38] <mrksbrd> all laptop here....gave up on desktops
[13:38] <LinuxReign> ET is the best game ever...been playing it since it came out :P
[13:38] <MrKennie> LinuxReign: which server you play on?
[13:38] <LinuxReign> OF and Shitstorm
[13:39] <MrKennie> LinuxReign: ah, I know the latter, I play on alienz
[13:39]  * mrksbrd has psp....wii & ps2 for that.... :)
[13:39] <MrKennie> I got a psp with custom firmware :)
[13:39] <LinuxReign> i see, my clan got disbanded, I used to be (HAM)Reign***
[13:39] <mrksbrd> able to play backups?
[13:39] <MrKennie> yup
[13:40] <mrksbrd> hook a brother up.....
[13:40] <MrKennie> making the battery is a little tricky. I was fortunate to have a spare one to mutilate
[13:40] <[ifroog]> Awesome website for ET ...
[13:40] <[ifroog]> http://www.enemyterritory.com/
[13:40] <mrksbrd> new psp or old style
[13:40] <MrKennie> new
[13:40] <mrksbrd> same here
[13:40] <MrKennie> runs homebrew and all
[13:41] <mrksbrd> really??? !!!!
[13:41] <LinuxReign> yeah, that site is dedicated to ETQW mostly
[13:41] <MrKennie> up, I got an ssh client and a vnc client installed
[13:41] <MrKennie> vnc client is buggy atm but it's fun to play around with
[13:42] <geek_> eww vnc
[13:43] <mrksbrd> MrKennie: where did u get that firmware from....is it a custom?
[13:48] <gkr> LOL I wanted to know what game you were talking about (ET) so I youtubed it .. hrmm .. me thinks thats now the game ur on about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DTjLG3usQo
[13:50] <LinuxReign> nope, this is the ONE, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwhZvkItLOE
[13:51] <LinuxReign> and also, runs natively on Linux :)
[13:52] <serge> Hello, can someone suggest to me how to install ubuntu on a laptop without a CD drive? (I don't have an external USB one either)
[13:52] <gkr> got to love Id software!
[13:53] <LinuxReign> yes
[13:53] <LinuxReign> all the way
[13:53] <gkr> I'm more of a guitar hero kinda guy myself. :)
[13:54] <LinuxReign> well, thats a good game as far I understand
[13:54] <gkr> lvl 17 on kbounce!!
[13:55] <LinuxReign> :P
[13:55] <indent> hi..
[13:55] <indent> back to my problem..
[13:56] <indent> i believe that there is a way to recover my windows
[13:56] <indent> i repeat again about my problem
[13:56] <geek_> serge: got a floppy drive?
[13:56] <indent> i got windows in my machine..
[13:56] <geek_> serge: or a current OS?
[13:56] <indent> then..i install ubuntu at the same HDD
[13:56] <indent> after i reboot..
[13:56] <serge> geek_: no, it's windows, only usb drives, no floppy
[13:56] <geek_> indent: overwrote it?
[13:56] <indent> i cant boot into my windows
[13:57] <geek_> serge: unetbootin ;)
[13:57] <indent> please somebody help me to recover my windows back
[13:57] <geek_> indent: probably fubared the bootloader. go ask at the windows channel about restoring the MBR and then reinstall grub if you want to keep linux
[13:57] <serge> geek_: thanks I'll look into it :)
[13:59] <MrKennie> talking about games, I'm gonna go frag some butt on ET.
[14:00] <odovzh> hello! gues!
[14:01] <mrksbrd> indent: there is a prog needed to dual boot ....let me try to remember what the name is
[14:01] <indent> ok..hope u remember
[14:02] <mrksbrd> vista or xp?
[14:02] <odovzh> escusme! I try to configure 2 monitors into idq35jo. Help me please! if you known about it.
[14:04] <odovzh> !!!
[14:04] <odovzh> ???
[14:05] <mrksbrd> indent: EasyBCD
[14:06] <odovzh> Help me please!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:08] <indent> xp
[14:15] <odovzh_> Hto est zdest z Rossiy?
[14:18] <LjL> !ru
[14:18] <LjL> !english
[14:20] <odovzh_> Thanks!!!
[14:21] <slim_> hello all, i installed KDE4.1 and i have small issue with network every time i reboot i lost nameserver configuration and have to set it manul in /etc/resolv.conf, how to fix this ?
[14:24] <Blissex3> slim_: probably nothing to do with KDE. Check your DHCP config.
[14:26] <Rioting_pacifist> does anybody else get a horrible memory leak when using networkmanager (it climes from <10mb to >200mb) when i kill and start it again it drops back to <10mb
[14:27] <lucas__> Hey, anyone having problems with the kubuntu build of amarok-kde4? I can't load songs/albums into the playlist menu
[14:27] <Rioting_pacifist> !kde4
[14:29] <lucas__> ok np
[14:31] <mrksbrd> Rioting_pacifist: there has been some probs with network manager creating issues lately.....try uninstalling it & running without it
[14:34] <Rioting_pacifist> mrksbrd: i dont know enough about wireless configs to pull that off, its just that i couldnt find a bug report at launchpad so didnt no if this was a personal problem
[14:49] <sanchou> How to limit memory consumption of a process? I have a process that use so much memory that my swap is nothing left
[14:49]  * geek_ thinks nice may do that
[14:52] <sanchou> Anyone of you know any other way to run flash without using npviewer.bin. Its memory consumption makes me crazy
[14:53] <LS1> hello, when running some programs I keep getting "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" any ideas anyone???
[14:54] <dante_> no
[14:56] <jussi01> !find libstdcc++.so.5
[14:56] <jussi01> hrm
[14:57] <roterguru> hi
[14:58] <jussi01> hi roterguru
[14:58] <jussi01> LS1: install libstdc++5 (sudo apt-get install libstdc++5 )
[14:59] <LS1> jussi01, yeah I did that and it looks good now, thanks :)
[14:59] <jussi01> :)
[14:59] <indent> hi..
[14:59] <roterguru> how can I enable read and write access to my ntfs partition without need for sudo password?
[14:59] <indent> can somebody here help me to recover my windows?
[15:00] <indent> i cannot boot into my windows after install ubuntu
[15:00] <mrksbrd> indent: they didn't work?
[15:00] <indent> nope
[15:01] <mrksbrd> hold on
[15:03] <indent> ok
[15:06] <mrksbrd> indent: try this http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[15:07] <indent> not working
[15:08] <mrksbrd> did u see the link i posted
[15:10] <mrksbrd> indent: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[15:10] <mrksbrd> your going to have to configure grub loader instead of using windows mbr
[15:11] <indent> hurmm..
[15:11] <indent> how ?
[15:11] <mrksbrd> read that link i posted
[15:12] <indent> already done..
[15:12] <indent> but still not working
[15:12] <mrksbrd> also did you have an existing windows partion or will you be able to start from scratch w/o using alot of stuff
[15:13] <mrksbrd> also do you remember if you enabled grub boot loader when u ran linux install?
[15:13] <indent> i'm try to boot from cd to reinstall my windows
[15:13] <indent> but it not working
[15:13] <indent> it just blank screen when i hit enter to boot from cd
[15:14] <mrksbrd> ok but was it a fresh install for both?
[15:14] <indent> what did u mean by both?
[15:14] <indent> what did u mean by fresh install for both?
[15:15] <mrksbrd> windows & linux
[15:15] <indent> i just try to fresh install for windows
[15:20] <ForgeAus> whats qwine?
[15:20] <mrksbrd> indent: ok this one should work for ya http://adventuresinswitching.blogspot.com/2007/12/dual-boot-into-windows-and-ubuntu-with.html
[15:21] <mrksbrd> !qwine
[15:22] <mrksbrd> there is a wine
[15:23] <ForgeAus> yeah I know about wine
[15:23] <ForgeAus> I guess its an addon of some kind just trying to find out what kind
[15:24] <mrksbrd> yea i tried searching for it nohing came back......only one was for a wine & spirits store....lol
[15:25] <mrksbrd> yahhhoooo
[15:26] <Walzmyn> Where's the proper place to talk about interpid?
[15:28] <ForgeAus> @ubuntu+1
[15:28] <ForgeAus> oops #ubuntu+1
[15:29] <ForgeAus> or #kubuntu-kde4 kinda
[15:33] <idham> still not working
[15:34] <veritas_> hi guys, i'm not sure why the konqueror mouse scrolling is really choppy, while in firefox the response is almost instaneous
[15:35] <indent> anybode can help me to recover my windows?
[15:39] <mrksbrd> indent are you getting errors when trying to do what articles are telling you
[15:39] <gkr> indent, if its XP, boot off the xp cd, the installer will detect a previous version of windows and ask you if you want to repair. Select repair and it will ask you for the admin password, enter the password and it will then drop u 2 a shell. type fixmbr and press enter. Reboot and ur done .. but you will have to reinstall grub/lilo etc.
[15:39] <bazhang> !grub | indent
[15:40] <mrksbrd> gkr: he said it's not allowing him
[15:41] <mrksbrd> everything i'm giving him ....he says it's not working
[15:41] <gkr> :( I got excited !
[15:41] <mrksbrd> i'm starting to wonder if install his install messed up something in his windows partition
[15:42] <gkr> would it play with an ntfs partition with out user action?
[15:44] <gkr> intend: did you resize the windows partition when you installed kubuntu?
[15:44] <mrksbrd> indent: if you don't mind loosing anything on windows partition just reinstall both OS's
[15:44] <idham_> there is another problem..i cant boot from CD
[15:44] <kamalx> hey all! anyone here who's done considerable tweaking to the look n feel of the kde desktop? i need some help
[15:45] <idham_> when i press enter to boot from Cd...it just stop there
[15:45] <idham_> with blank screen
[15:45] <idham_> even i've wait in whole night
[15:46] <idham_> gkr: i choose manual
[15:46] <idham_> not resizing
[15:46] <mrksbrd> that shouldn't happen unless there is a h/w issue
[15:46] <gkr> agreed
[15:46] <mrksbrd> how old is the hdd
[15:46] <idham_> but my h/w is working as usual
[15:47] <idham_> hdd can be consider new
[15:47] <gkr> hdd may be corrupt though
[15:47] <idham_> it is SATA
[15:47] <idham_> Hdd is working
[15:47] <idham_> i'm using it now
[15:47] <gkr> corrupt, not fault
[15:47] <idham_> i can see my windows partition on ubuntu
[15:47] <idham_> i can access it
[15:48] <idham_> can open the file..copy..paste..bla..bla..
[15:48] <idham_> but cannot boot
[15:48] <idham_> i didnt touch the windows file inside windows folder
[15:49] <gkr> if I had ur problem, i would boot into ubuntu live cd, backup ur windows data to external drive/computer and re-create the hdd partitions using gparted. then try the windows cd again
[15:49] <idham_> hurmm..
[15:50] <idham_> i'll try it
[15:50] <gkr> do u have a spare hdd? perhaps you can replace the drive and test the windows cd. that way you can eliminate the hdd as the problem
[15:50] <idham_> no
[15:50] <idham_> this is my only drive
[15:54] <gkr> night all
[15:58] <Lokiase> I cannot open gmail or hotmail with konquer and mediaplay always crashes, can someone help plz?
[15:59] <ghostcube> Lokiase: maybe kde version and distrie version ?
[15:59] <Lokiase> euhm
[15:59] <Lokiase> where do I find it?
[15:59] <ghostcube> opn4en kcontrol
[16:00] <ghostcube> or judt info in any kde programm
[16:01] <Lokiase> 3.5.9
[16:01] <Lokiase> kde
[16:01] <ghostcube> hmm there is an update in backports to 3.5.10 and maybe u must install the sun java package
[16:02] <Lokiase> i'm a noob, how to do it?
[16:02] <Lokiase> adept?
[16:02] <ghostcube> yes
[16:02] <ghostcube> serch for sun
[16:02] <ghostcube> or java
[16:03] <Lokiase> wich one
[16:03] <Lokiase> lot of java
[16:03] <ghostcube> and for updating toi the newer version u need to open up the backport repos in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:03] <ghostcube> moment
[16:03] <mrksbrd> sun-java
[16:04] <Lokiase> sun-java gives a long list
[16:04] <mrksbrd> hold on
[16:04] <ghostcube> ?
[16:04] <ghostcube> sun-java6-jre
[16:04] <ghostcube> should bring the others with it
[16:04] <mrksbrd> sun-java-plugin
[16:05] <ghostcube> sun-java6-bin   sun-java6-plugin
[16:05] <ghostcube> if not get with it automaticly
[16:14] <Lokiase> adept crasht during install of java and now I cannot open it anymore
[16:19] <pim> Main Memory
[16:19] <pim>   	
[16:19] <pim> • 	
[16:19] <pim> Supports dual channel DDR2 400/533/667/800, using four 240-pin DDR2 DIMMs.
[16:19] <pim> sorry
[16:27] <ghostcube> Lokiase: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-bin
[16:27] <ghostcube> in konsole
[16:27] <ghostcube> or terminal
[16:36] <Lokiase> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct                                                                    the problem.
[16:36] <sponix> Looking for advice on webcams, anyone know of one under $40 that "just works" without any fiddling around ?
[16:50] <starenka> any clues how to share printer from one kubuntu for another kubuntu and xp machines?
[16:50] <pim> samba?
[16:51] <starenka> o
[16:51] <starenka> i thought samba is for file sharing...
[16:51] <starenka> so it is emulating whole ms network?
[16:51] <starenka> !samba
[16:52] <pim> http://us1.samba.org/samba/what_is_samba.html
[16:52] <starenka> thanx ubotu
[16:57] <mondi> bry den
[16:58] <ghostcube> Lokiase: have u done the command the terminal showed u
[16:59] <ghostcube> dpkg --configure -a
[17:08] <morrison> hola
[17:25] <Lokiase> i have installed the sun-java
[17:25] <Lokiase> but when i wants to open hotmail
[17:25] <Lokiase> in konquer
[17:25] <Lokiase> i cannot open a email, the jscript doenst work
[17:27] <Lokiase> anyone knows how to solve the javascript error?
[17:32] <mefisto__> I don't think hotmail needs or uses java
[17:32] <ghostcube> Lokiase: have u tried to use firefox
[17:32] <Lokiase> firefox works but i don't wanna use firefox :s
[17:33] <ghostcube> why not ?
[17:35] <Lokiase> dont prefer firefox
[17:35] <starenka> anybody pls willing to help with printer sharing (cups + samba)?
[17:35] <Lokiase> want konquer
[17:36] <mrksbrd> you can use opera
[17:36] <Lokiase> i want javascript in konquer, cant be impossible? :s
[17:37] <ForgeAus> javascript? or java?
[17:37] <ghostcube> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[17:37] <ghostcube> ForgeAus: i think he want to use javascript i dont knopw why konqisnt working for him
[17:38] <penguiniator> is javascript turned off in konqueror? or is it an issue with the way the script is written?
[17:38] <ghostcube> starenka: how are u configurating  samba
[17:38] <starenka> hg
[17:38] <ghostcube> hg ?
[17:39] <Lokiase> dont know how javascript works, it works in firefox3, but not in konquer
[17:39] <ghostcube> Lokiase: check if in settings for konqueroro javascipt is enabled
[17:39] <mefisto__> Lokiase: javascript works in konqueror, it's just hotmail that doesn't quite work
[17:39] <starenka> ghostcube: well, in system settings -> file sharing i added /var/lib/samba/printer and /var/spool/samba as samba share
[17:40] <starenka> ghostcube: i can see the computer from other kubuntu, but can't find the printer (via add printer)
[17:40] <ghostcube> hmm i use swat but ok u need to add this to smb.conf global
[17:40] <Lokiase> mefisto, java and javascript are activated in konqueror
[17:40] <ghostcube> printcap name = cups
[17:40] <starenka> what what
[17:41] <penguiniator> open Konqueror's settings dialog, clidk Java & JavaScript pane, select the JavaScript tab and make sure Enable JavaScript globally is checked.
[17:41] <Lokiase> it is checked
[17:41] <ghostcube> starenka: u know how to edit the smb.conf ?
[17:42] <starenka> well, technically, but why to edit manully?
[17:42] <ghostcube> u can use swat i dont use the kde tools to set samba up
[17:43] <starenka> !swat
[17:43] <penguiniator> Are the JavaScript Policies radio buttons set to allow or ignore in the same pane and is it set to Deny opening new windows?
[17:44] <starenka> ghostcube: it doesnt matter where i put the line?
[17:44] <ghostcube> it does matter
[17:44] <starenka> ghostcube: nah i see it now
[17:44] <mefisto__> Lokiase: you can try to use a different browser identification for hotmail, but I don't think that's going to work either. Is there a reason why you don't want to use firefox (which hotmail officially supports)?
[17:44] <ghostcube> u need some more things
[17:45] <ghostcube> ill pastebin
[17:45] <Lokiase> it's not only hotmail
[17:45] <starenka> ghostcube: i just uncomented the line
[17:45] <Lokiase> also youtube doenst work
[17:45] <Lokiase> and just prefer konquer
[17:45] <starenka> ghostcube: ok, nice. ty
[17:45] <Lokiase> penuiniator: buttons are "allowed" and the new windows button = intelligent
[17:46] <kamalx> Lokiase: try changing ur user agent string
[17:46] <kamalx> Tools->Change Browser Identification->...
[17:47] <penguiniator> One thing you might want to try in Konq is setting the browser ID to a string used by Internet Explorer and trying Hotmail again to see if they are using browser sniffing to discriminate against Konqueror
[17:48] <Lokiase> its not only hotmail, but also youtube, everyting with javascript
[17:49] <ForgeAus> uh can I leave myself a memo?
[17:49] <ForgeAus> or something?
[17:49] <ghostcube> starenka: http://nopaste.info/e20c6464f6_nl.html
[17:49] <ForgeAus> so I can read it when I need to?
[17:49] <ghostcube> Lokiase: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[17:50] <ghostcube> check that the jre 1,6 is checked with an *
[17:50] <penguiniator> I'm watching a youtube video in Konq right now... works here... I don't use HotMail, so I can't help with that beyond what I've already suggested.
[17:51] <ghostcube> penguiniator: 3.5.10 or 3.5.9
[17:51] <mefisto__> Lokiase: you can get konqueror to do youtube if you can find an older version of the flash plugin and set konqueror to use that older plugin
[17:51] <penguiniator> 3.5.8
[17:52] <bdog> is it possible to change the partition size for kubuntu? I used the windows installer.
[17:52] <ForgeAus> wow memoserv is handy :)
[17:53] <starenka> ghostcube:  printer admin = users u want to have alowed  <- what should i put here? i want to share the printer to anonymous
[17:53] <Lokiase> mestifo__, its not the flash but the jaavscript
[17:53] <mefisto__> Lokiase: I kept an old copy of libflashplayer.so and konqueror works on youtube with that (version 9,0,48,0)
[17:54] <mefisto__> Lokiase: what makes you think that it's javascript preventing youtube from working?
[17:54] <Lokiase> its not a youtube problem, also in hotmail, etc...... because of javascript
[17:54] <Lokiase> because I get an error
[17:54] <Lokiase> from javascript
[17:54] <penguiniator> what is the error message?
[17:55] <ghostcube> remove it and try guest
[17:55] <mefisto__> Lokiase: it says you have javascript turned off?
[17:56] <starenka> ghostcube: i did, and restarted samba, but now i dont even see the workgroup and computer in add printer dialog
[17:56] <Lokiase> error is: a script on this page causes that KHTML doenst react. If KHTML stays running the script, other processes might react bad. Do you like to abort the script... (but in dutch, i tried to translate :))
[17:56] <ghostcube> :|
[17:57] <vyrgozunqk> hi guys, something interesting around ? :P
[17:57] <ghostcube> hmmm starenka dont know the prob have u added all into the right sections
[17:57] <bdog> would gparted work in resizing?
[17:58] <penguiniator> I get that same error message... I just ignore it and everything works fine.
[17:58] <vyrgozunqk> ghostcube, are you sleeping in this channel 24/7 :D
[17:58] <starenka> ghostcube: i dont even see the workgroup via dolpohin now :(
[17:58] <ghostcube> starenka: pastebin the smb.conf pls
[17:58] <ghostcube> vyrgozunqk: nah :)
[17:58] <starenka> w8 writing from other machine
[17:58] <ghostcube> starenka: u can try swat
[17:59] <ghostcube> very helpful
[17:59] <vyrgozunqk> is there someone familliar with kernelCheck ?
[17:59] <starenka> is it a package?
[17:59] <ghostcube> without samba isnt easy to manage
[17:59] <vyrgozunqk> :/
[17:59] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install swat inetutils-inetd
[17:59] <starenka> kool
[17:59] <ghostcube> i think it needs the inetutils inetd
[18:00] <Lokiase> anyone can solve it?
[18:00] <ghostcube> Lokiase: yes use firefox
[18:00] <starenka_> ghostcube: could you pls repost the package name
[18:00] <ghostcube> i have only audio here
[18:00] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install swat inetutils-inetd
[18:00] <starenka_> ty
[18:00] <penguiniator> I believe you can set a checkbox in the dialog to not bother you about the JavaScript error again.
[18:01] <starenka> ghostcube: ok what now?
[18:01] <ghostcube> localhost:901 in browser
[18:01] <mefisto__> Lokiase: hotmail won't work in konqueror. but you can get youtube working with an older flash plugin
[18:01] <Lokiase> ok
[18:01] <ghostcube> Lokiase: firefox3 and noscript is ok
[18:02] <ghostcube> ^^
[18:02] <starenka_> ghostcube: http://pastebin.com/d31fa1989
[18:02] <starenka> ghostcube: not working...
[18:03] <FicaBlok38^AWAY> my kubuntu 8.04.1 kde 4.1.00 doesnt see my camera
[18:03] <ghostcube> sudo  /etc/init.d/inetutils-inetd start
[18:04] <ghostcube> FicaBlok38: usb cam ?
[18:04] <FicaBlok38> no
[18:04] <FicaBlok38> camcorder
[18:04] <FicaBlok38> via firewire
[18:04] <starenka_> ghostcube: still nada
[18:05] <starenka_> ghostcube: i dont need apache to serve the pages, dont i
[18:05] <ghostcube> no
[18:05] <ghostcube> swat sahould work fine
[18:06] <starenka_> ghostcube: it is not :)
[18:06] <FicaBlok38> i have KIno
[18:06] <ghostcube> netstat -ano | grep 901
[18:06] <ghostcube> is it listening on 901?
[18:07] <starenka_> lemme check
[18:07] <starenka_> nope
[18:07] <ghostcube> swat & in terminal
[18:08] <starenka_> still nestat gives nthng
[18:08] <ghostcube> hmm i dont say this often try a reboot
[18:08] <starenka_> whaa?
[18:08] <ghostcube> i dont know what to start at the momentz
[18:08] <ghostcube> :D
[18:08] <ghostcube> dont know why it doesnt like ure wat
[18:08] <ghostcube> *s
[18:08] <starenka_> ok
[18:08] <starenka_> gimme a sec
[18:12] <starenka_> ghostcube: neat... i got it
[18:12] <starenka_> ghostcube: wants a login ->it's my login, right?
[18:12] <ghostcube> yes
[18:12] <FicaBlok38> an idea how to solve this problem?
[18:13] <ghostcube> starenka: this tool is made by the samab coders
[18:13] <ghostcube> so
[18:13] <starenka_> ghostcube: thanx, sooo any hints
[18:13] <ghostcube> moment brb
[18:14] <starenka_> ghostcube: fok. i got 404 while clicking on any link :(
[18:14] <ghostcube> hmm
[18:15] <ghostcube> ah yeas
[18:15] <ghostcube> not needed just klick the icons
[18:15] <ghostcube> globals shares
[18:16] <starenka_> dont have such
[18:16] <starenka_> got home/status/view/password
[18:16] <ghostcube> ok the u need to run as user root
[18:16] <starenka_> ko
[18:17] <ghostcube> starenka: but just try this
[18:17] <ghostcube> go to paswords
[18:17] <x-X-x> whats the name of the application which allows you to edit the display in kubuntu ?
[18:17] <starenka_> ok
[18:17] <ghostcube> edit display ?
[18:17] <x-X-x> its not kcontrol
[18:17] <starenka_> wha?
[18:17] <ghostcube> add an user starenka try to add ure user and activate him
[18:18] <starenka_> i got server pass mngmnt and c/s pass mngnmt
[18:18] <PhilRod> x-X-x: are you looking for system settings?
[18:18] <x-X-x> i have 2 screens and i want to make the external screen screen 1
[18:18] <x-X-x> yeh
[18:18] <ghostcube> u need the server password
[18:18] <starenka_> btw i cross this issue before, how can i login as root? (the pass i use with sudo does not work)
[18:18] <x-X-x> but philrod i want the application in system settings which edits the screen
[18:18] <ghostcube> sudo passwd
[18:19] <ghostcube> and this will prompt root pasword
[18:19] <ghostcube> ;)
[18:19] <x-X-x> k ill try
[18:19] <mefisto__> x-X-x: displayconfig ?
[18:19] <starenka_> well, tell me how to make it in browser (httpauth) dialog then :))
[18:19] <PhilRod> x-X-x: you want a standalone app? Then I don't know
[18:19] <starenka_> oh
[18:19] <x-X-x> mefisto yeh
[18:19] <ghostcube> starenka: just make en sudo passwd typoe passwd in
[18:19] <ghostcube> and u got an real rot
[18:19] <x-X-x> thnc
[18:20] <starenka_> gh: srty selfpawnd...
[18:20] <x-X-x> but i am using kde4
[18:20] <x-X-x> and system settings in kde4 doesnt let me edit the display so i need the kde3 ver
[18:20] <starenka_> okok
[18:20] <x-X-x> thnx dudes
[18:20] <ghostcube> #kubuntu-kde4  :)
[18:20] <starenka_> ghostcube: okok, i'm in as root
[18:20] <x-X-x> ghostcube i went there and noone could help
[18:20] <ender_> hi
[18:21] <ghostcube> starenka: so now u must see more options
[18:21] <starenka_> yep
[18:21] <mefisto__> x-X-x: you might need "kdesudo displayconfig" to change some settings
[18:21] <ghostcube> starenka: global extended view
[18:21] <starenka_> ok
[18:21] <x-X-x> k dude i installing now
[18:21] <FicaBlok38> pleease please help
[18:21] <FicaBlok38> that is very important
[18:21] <x-X-x> lol
[18:22] <x-X-x> dont ask to ask just ask
[18:22] <ender_> hi i need help
[18:22] <FicaBlok38> i am alredy asked
[18:22] <FicaBlok38> :)
[18:22] <x-X-x> oh
[18:22] <x-X-x> :P
[18:22] <ghostcube> starenka: so u can set all networking and so there and down there is printeroptions
[18:23] <ghostcube> set load printers yes
[18:23] <ghostcube> printcap name = cups
[18:23] <ghostcube> printing is cups
[18:23] <starenka_> got that already
[18:23] <ghostcube> save it
[18:23] <ghostcube> go to shares
[18:24] <ghostcube> can u choose an printer$ share
[18:24] <veritas_> has anyone been able to get the .68/.67 nvidia drivers working?
[18:24] <ghostcube> print$
[18:24] <starenka_> i already done all thdi form ur conf
[18:24] <starenka_> but ok
[18:24] <starenka_> will doublecheck
[18:25] <ghostcube> the print$ sgare is for thwe drivers
[18:25] <ghostcube> check all and safe it and then restart samba
[18:26] <ghostcube> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[18:26] <starenka_> ??  the print$ sgare is for thwe drivers
[18:26] <ghostcube> yes do u have a print$ share
[18:26] <starenka_> yep
[18:26] <starenka_> any options?
[18:26] <FicaBlok38> ejjj
[18:26] <ghostcube> for u guest ok yes
[18:26] <ghostcube> i think so
[18:27] <starenka_> got it already
[18:27] <ghostcube> the path should be already there
[18:27] <starenka_> check
[18:27] <ghostcube> /var/lib/samba/printers
[18:27] <ghostcube> browsable = yes and available = yes
[18:28] <x-X-x> mefisto__ , ghostcube , PhilRod : thnx dudes its was exactly what i was looking for :D
[18:28] <ghostcube> FicaBlok38: take the cam out
[18:28] <ghostcube> and open terminal
[18:28] <ghostcube> plug in the cm
[18:28] <ghostcube> and type in terminal dmesg
[18:28] <ghostcube> what is the last output
[18:28] <ghostcube> to nopaste.info pls
[18:29] <ghostcube> starenka: now to the printers section
[18:29] <starenka_> ghostcube: ok. all set and restarted
[18:29] <ghostcube> can u choose printers and ure printer special
[18:29] <ghostcube> so two kind os
[18:30] <ghostcube> *of
[18:30] <starenka_> i can pick my printer
[18:30] <ghostcube> isnt there an printers too
[18:30] <starenka_> got ghost:ok
[18:31] <ghostcube> is all done try if its there
[18:31] <starenka_> shit guest: ok
[18:31] <ghostcube> :)
[18:31] <starenka_> :))
[18:31] <FicaBlok38> ghostcube: http://paste.ubuntu.com/41930/
[18:32] <FicaBlok38> ghostcube: filip@filip-desktop:~$ ls /dev/raw1394 -lcrw-rw-rw- 1 root disk 171, 0 2008-08-30 17:06 /dev/raw1394
[18:32] <ghostcube> ok so what u wanna do capture over it ?
[18:33] <starenka_> ghostcube: still the same, i dont even see the workgroup / computer in dolphin, neither add the printer (of course)
[18:33] <FicaBlok38> i dont understand
[18:33] <ghostcube> starenka: maybe remove the old smb.conf u had and clean all u done in kde
[18:33] <ghostcube> then set it iup fresh
[18:33] <ghostcube> i dont know if the kde tools are killing swat changes somehow
[18:34] <ghostcube> FicaBlok38: what u wanna do with the cam
[18:34] <FicaBlok38> ghostcube: i want to capture from camera to cop
[18:34] <FicaBlok38> comp
[18:35] <FicaBlok38> via firewire
[18:35] <starenka_> ghostcube: so i should "reset values" on every tab? and start over
[18:35] <FicaBlok38> ghostcube: what is best program for that?
[18:35] <FicaBlok38> Kino?
[18:35] <ghostcube> FicaBlok38: kino should work yes
[18:37] <ghostcube> FicaBlok38: /etc/udev/rules.d/020_permissions.rules
[18:37] <starenka_> hostcube: so i should "reset values" on every tab? and start over
[18:37] <mefisto__> FicaBlok38: is you firewire card and camera supported by linux? have you googled them?
[18:37] <FicaBlok38> ghostcube: Kino say No AV/compilant cam connected or no switched on.
[18:37] <starenka_> ghostcube: so i should "reset values" on every tab? and start over
[18:37] <ghostcube> what are the permissions for the #ieee1394 devices
[18:37] <ghostcube> starenka: would be the best dont uswe kde
[18:37] <ghostcube> use swat at beginning
[18:38] <starenka_> yep, but what now?
[18:38] <FicaBlok38> ghostcube:
[18:38] <FicaBlok38> root disk 171, 0 2008-08-30 17:06 /dev/raw1394
[18:38] <FicaBlok38> bash: filip@filip-desktop:~$: command not found
[18:38] <ghostcube> FicaBlok38: vi /etc/udev/rules.d/020_permissions.rules
[18:38] <juht> Hi this sure it's a stupid question but how do i install openoffice templates ?? i downloaded from the page and are .oxt? how do i installed? thenks
[18:38] <ghostcube> FicaBlok38: lsmod | grep 1394 to nopaste.info
[18:39] <ghostcube> juht: are u in oo3
[18:39] <juht> oo2.4
[18:39] <FicaBlok38> ghostcube: http://nopaste.info/36ca099df1.html
[18:40] <juht> Openoffice 2.4
[18:41] <mefisto__> juht: extension manager, in tools menu
[18:42] <ghostcube> FicaBlok38: vi /etc/udev/rules.d/020_permissions.rules
[18:43] <juht> thenks so much mefisto!
[18:43] <ghostcube> what is the # ieee1394 devices  section showing
[18:43] <FicaBlok38> ghostcube: vi /etc/udev/rules.d/020_permissions.rules?
[18:43] <FicaBlok38> ghostcube: /etc/udev/rules.d/020_permissions.rules
[18:44] <ghostcube> :|
[18:44] <ghostcube> just open that file and tell me what u see inside
[18:44] <ghostcube> vi nano kate i dont know what u prefere
[18:44] <FicaBlok38> kate
[18:44] <ghostcube> what is the # ieee1394 devices  section showing
[18:44] <ghostcube> FicaBlok38: kate /etc/udev/rules.d/020_permissions.rules
[18:44] <ghostcube> in terminal
[18:45] <FicaBlok38> blank page
[18:46] <ghostcube> FicaBlok38: cd /etc/udev/rules.d
[18:46] <ghostcube> ls
[18:46] <ghostcube> and then the file thats called permission rules
[18:47] <mefisto__> on mine it's /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules
[18:49] <ghostcube> yes it is here too changed :| but hes off he had to go
[18:49] <veritas_> How do I get the Nvidia kernel module to match up with the driver i'm installing? I tried installing 177.70 but it complained about mismatch with kernel module 169.12?
[18:49] <ghostcube> it seems the rights must be changed inside for the ieee1394 to video group
[18:49] <starenka_> ghostcube: samba.conf in /etc/samba http://pastebin.com/d715aae52
[18:49] <veritas_> How do i install the kernel module to 177.70?
[18:50] <ghostcube> veritas_: uninstall the 169.12
[18:50] <starenka_> ghostcube: and what swat shows in 'view tab' http://pastebin.com/d7955b772
[18:51] <starenka_> ghostcube: weird, right? the browseable thing...
[18:51] <veritas_> ghostcube: how do i uninstall it?
[18:53] <ghostcube> starenka: u can remove this in the smb.conf or just use the extended view for the shgare the u will see this
[18:53] <ghostcube> btw printer$ is wrong set
[18:53] <ghostcube> path = /var/lib/samba/printers
[18:53] <ghostcube> not spool
[18:53] <starenka_> oh
[18:54] <ghostcube> map to guest = Bad User   whats is this in global
[18:54] <ghostcube> thats not good idea
[18:54] <veritas_> how do i uninstall the drivers lol
[18:54] <ghostcube> u cant do this in one minute it takes a bit time to get through this many options
[18:55] <ghostcube> it took me some time to know what causes what inside
[18:55] <ghostcube> veritas_: how do u install the 169
[18:55] <ghostcube> by restricted manager
[18:55] <ghostcube> ?
[18:55] <veritas_> i did apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new
[18:56] <ghostcube> ok
[18:56] <ghostcube> now
[18:56] <veritas_> need to kill x
[18:56] <veritas_> brb
[18:57] <starenka_> ghostcube: ok, map to guest: never?
[18:58] <ghostcube> wheere is this i dont have this in my smb.conf
[18:58] <ghostcube> just delete it
[18:58] <ghostcube> if its still there manually
[18:58] <ghostcube> and restart samba
[19:00] <starenka_> i dont have it in conf either ;))
[19:00] <ghostcube> ok :D
[19:00] <ghostcube> only whats in conf is detected normally
[19:00] <starenka_> ok
[19:00] <ghostcube> my smb.conf works here with mac weindows and linux
[19:01] <ghostcube> all sharing one ml-2250
[19:01] <starenka_> but still i cant see any workgroup on other comp ;(
[19:01] <starenka_> this is mayhem
[19:02] <ghostcube> hmm normyll u should see the workgroup if u restart samba
[19:02] <ghostcube> normally
[19:02] <ghostcube> have u tried to share an folder on the mashine
[19:02] <ghostcube> if this works ?
[19:03] <starenka_> nope
[19:03] <starenka_> i dont see the workgroup
[19:03] <ghostcube> maybe try if u can share any folders before sharing printer
[19:03] <starenka_> i used to see it before i started messing up with settings ;)))
[19:03] <ghostcube> hmmm
[19:03] <starenka_> the initial problem was i have seen the comp but no printer in add printer dialog
[19:04] <starenka_> now i cant see even the machine :)))
[19:04] <starenka_> neither workgroup
[19:04] <veritas_> weird
[19:04] <veritas_> changing to 177.70 did nothing for my Quadro
[19:04] <ghostcube> starenka: :|
[19:04] <DarkriftX> !info jvm
[19:04] <DarkriftX> !jvm
[19:04] <DarkriftX> hrmmmm
[19:05] <starenka_> !java
[19:05] <veritas_> !nvidia
[19:05] <ghostcube> starenka: i dont get the prob i had this if i used the kde sharing tool
[19:05] <DarkriftX> thx but that didnt work last time, i had to do something else
[19:05] <veritas_> also, my nvidia-kernel disappeared from /etc/init.d/
[19:05] <DarkriftX> jre was the wrong one, it was like sun-java-jvm or something
[19:06] <ghostcube> jdk?
[19:06] <bazhang> jdk
[19:07] <DarkriftX> might be
[19:07] <ghostcube> starenka: hmm u can try to add a user in swat for the samba server
[19:07] <ghostcube> and then try to share any folder
[19:07] <DarkriftX> No suitable Java Virtual Machine could be found on your system. The version of the JVM must be at least 1.5. Please define INSTALL4J_JAVA_HOME to point to a suitable JVM.
[19:07] <ghostcube> if u can reach the folder by using the command execute in windooz
[19:07] <DarkriftX> thats what its asking for
[19:07] <ghostcube> by /ip
[19:08] <ghostcube> !java | DarkriftX
[19:08] <ghostcube> the 6 versioned one and update the alternatives
[19:08] <ghostcube> u need bin and plugin too
[19:08] <DarkriftX> ok, ill try it
[19:08] <pim> !xubuntu
[19:09] <Boinc> hello, ive just installed kubuntu for the first time and trying to install the linux drivers for my Nvidia 8800 but im not sure if im using the x32 or x64 bit of kubunu, how can i check?
[19:09] <ghostcube> DarkriftX: sudo  update-alernatives --config java   after install
[19:09] <ghostcube> *alternatives
[19:09] <ghostcube> veritas_: u get it installed now ?
[19:10] <veritas_> ghostcube:
[19:10] <veritas_> yes
[19:10] <veritas_> nvidia-settings says it's 177.70
[19:10] <ghostcube> ok
[19:10] <veritas_> but i dont notice any differences
[19:11] <veritas_> apparently it .70 has support for Quadro 150/160M, FX 770M, but not FX 570M (which is what my T61P has)
[19:11] <ghostcube> :|
[19:12] <starenka_> ghostcube: thanx for help.. will read more stuff and try it again
[19:12] <DarkriftX> ok ghostcube, installed and selected it, but still get same error
[19:12] <veritas_> ghostcube: in addition, my nvidia-kernel is gone from /etc/init.d/
[19:12] <DarkriftX> this is what happened last time, someone suggested a different package then it worked
[19:12] <DarkriftX> any ideas?
[19:13] <DarkriftX> nvm
[19:13] <DarkriftX> was a cache file :S
[19:13] <cryingtux> ! ubuntu
[19:14] <pim> !gentoo
[19:15] <pim> !mepis
[19:15] <Boinc> errm help please, my display resolution is messed up and i cannot see the start menu to get to the display settings
[19:15] <Boinc> any help?
[19:16] <veritas_> no dice
[19:17] <Boinc> please help, how can i change my desktop resolution?
[19:17] <ghostcube> DarkriftX: whats the problem exactly
[19:17] <pim> Boic , you must be patient and wait a while
[19:17] <ghostcube> Boinc: best way is to set it in xorg.conf to the defaukt depth section
[19:18] <Boinc> ghostcube, i cannot see the start menu though to click on anything
[19:18] <Boinc> i can just see the middle of the desktop
[19:18] <Boinc> its like everything is pushed out beyond the monitor on all 4 sides
[19:18] <ghostcube> Boinc: alt + f2
[19:18] <ghostcube> type in terminal
[19:19] <DarkriftX> its working now ghostcube , thx
[19:19] <Boinc> ok i got a terminal up
[19:19] <Boinc> how do i change it please?
[19:19] <ghostcube> now kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[19:19] <ghostcube> now kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:19] <ghostcube> sudo infront
[19:19] <ghostcube> sorry
[19:20] <ghostcube> u must edit as sudo
[19:20] <Boinc> ok then when i save will it change the resolution automatically?
[19:20] <ghostcube> nah wait
[19:21] <ghostcube> scroll to the screen section
[19:22] <ghostcube> Boinc: still there ?
[19:22] <Boinc> yes m8 sorry first time using this and a little slow
[19:22] <Boinc> im there
[19:24] <vassili> hi all!
[19:25] <vassili> hi
[19:26] <tuxx> yo
[19:26] <vassili> hou are you?
[19:26] <tuxx> good...you?
[19:27] <vassili> im fine, thancs
[19:27] <vassili> kan you help me to find russian channel?
[19:27] <bazhang> !ru
[19:28] <tuxx> :-) here you go
[19:28] <vassili> oooh
[19:28] <vassili> i wil try
[19:29] <vassili> #ubuntu-ru
[19:29] <vassili> thanks!
[19:30] <tuxx> is it working?
[19:38] <Boinc> ghostcube, its a better resolution now but the screen goes beyong my monitor on the right and bottom of the screen and because of that i cannot see the taskbar
[19:38] <ghostcube> can u scroll it ?
[19:38] <Boinc> i could only launch xchat by adding an application launcher widget
[19:38] <ghostcube> u must install drivers
[19:38] <Boinc> no
[19:38] <ghostcube> what card is this
[19:39] <Boinc> i downloaded the drivers and saved them to the desktop but cannot see the file
[19:39] <Boinc> its an nvidia 8800 GTX
[19:39] <ghostcube> u cant install themi in grafical mode
[19:39] <Boinc> i think the file might have saved off the screen
[19:39] <ghostcube> they are in /home/ folder
[19:39] <ghostcube> u must loggoff and kill kdm
[19:40] <ghostcube> then u can install manually
[19:40] <Boinc> how do i unzip the file though?
[19:40] <ghostcube> this si a zip ?
[19:40] <ghostcube> not an  sh ?
[19:40] <Boinc> errm i'll have to check
[19:40] <ghostcube> alt + f2
[19:40] <ghostcube> terminal
[19:40] <ghostcube> ls
[19:41] <ghostcube> u are automatzicly in ure homefolder
[19:41] <ghostcube> if not there do
[19:41] <ghostcube> cd Desktop
[19:41] <Boinc> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run
[19:41] <ghostcube> and then an ls
[19:41] <ghostcube> ok
[19:41] <ghostcube> now its a bit tricky
[19:41] <Boinc> tssh
[19:41] <Boinc> i can write down the instructions if u dont mind helping?
[19:42] <ghostcube> no prob
[19:42] <Boinc> thank you very much
[19:42] <ghostcube> ctrl + f2 will bring up an login screen
[19:42] <ghostcube> there login as ure user
[19:42] <ghostcube> type in sudo killall  kdm
[19:43] <ghostcube> then after this x will be stoped from running
[19:43] <ghostcube> then do
[19:43] <ghostcube> sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run
[19:43] <ghostcube> it will build ask for building the kernel cause no matching one found
[19:43] <ghostcube> this must be marked yes
[19:43] <ghostcube> then if all runs fine
[19:43] <ghostcube> reboot
[19:43] <ghostcube> just sudo reboot
[19:44] <ghostcube> :)
[19:44] <Boinc> got it
[19:44] <ghostcube> try it
[19:44] <Boinc> thanks again, will try now
[19:45] <ghostcube> Boinc: its ctrl alt f2
[19:45] <ghostcube> sorry
[19:45] <ghostcube> my fault
[19:45] <Boinc> ahh was just coming back to u then hehe
[19:45] <Boinc> wasnt working
[19:45] <Boinc> hehe
[19:45] <Boinc> ta
[19:47] <ghostcube> heh killall kdm worked
[19:47] <ghostcube> :D
[19:48] <DarkriftX> lol
[19:49] <Boinc> ghostcube, when i type sudo killall kdrr it says no application running
[19:49] <ghostcube> kdm
[19:50] <ghostcube> but u left
[19:50] <ghostcube> so it should have workes
[19:50] <ghostcube> *d
[19:50] <ghostcube> not kdrr
[19:50] <ghostcube> :D
[19:50] <pim> how do I delete directories, commandline?
[19:50] <Boinc> im sorry i cannot read that text it looks like kdrr
[19:51] <KRF> pim, rmdir
[19:51] <ghostcube> pim: rm -r
[19:51] <pim> -r is recursive, what does it mean?
[19:51] <ghostcube> its an small M
[19:51] <ghostcube> m
[19:51] <Boinc> everything and sub directories
[19:51] <Boinc> m
[19:51] <ghostcube> yes
[19:52] <pim> everything and subdirectories ok
[19:52] <Boinc> wow the last leg of the m doesnt show for me
[19:52] <pim> thanks
[19:52] <Boinc> looks like rr
[19:52] <ghostcube> heh
[19:52] <Boinc> ok also need to get x64 drivers
[19:52] <ghostcube> oh
[19:52] <ghostcube> wait
[19:52] <Boinc> says i downloaded the x86 ones
[19:52] <ghostcube> do u need the 173 ?
[19:53] <Boinc> 173 version you mean?
[19:53] <Boinc> just the latest ones
[19:53] <Boinc> i found this but they look so old http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-9755.html
[19:54] <smarty> doesnt Kopete support Gtalk (Google Talk)?
[19:54] <ghostcube> english ?
[19:55] <ghostcube> Boinc: in terminal
[19:55] <ghostcube> wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/173.14.12/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.12-pkg2.run
[19:56] <Boinc> ghostcube, is that a beta driver?
[19:56] <ghostcube> no
[19:56] <Boinc> cos ive foudn some beta ones
[19:56] <Boinc> http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_rel70betadriver.html
[19:56] <Boinc> which would be best?
[19:57] <Boinc> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
[19:57] <ghostcube> wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/177.67/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.67-pkg2.run
[19:57] <ghostcube> thats latest beta
[19:57] <gecko_> Hi guys, I'm trying to installed the game WOW, but i've noticed it doesnt download like "normal".. how do i get it to run in linux???
[19:57] <ghostcube> for  gtx
[19:57] <Boinc> ok bud, will try that now
[19:57] <Boinc> thanks again
[19:58] <Boinc> fingers crossed
[19:58] <KRF> gecko_, there's a nice tut on the wiki, just google "ubuntu wow"
[19:58] <gecko_> KRF: k, thanks.
[19:59] <Boinc> brb
[19:59] <Barackuse> I have a very strange issue here
[19:59] <Barackuse> If anyone would like to help
[20:00] <Barackuse> I can not access any web sites with firefox.  I can ping google.com from the cmd prompt and I can connect here.  I cant even connect to google via the ip address.
[20:01] <ghostcube> from the beginnging or just happened
[20:01] <Barackuse> I checked my router and DNS setting 3 times.  But as I say, I can ping yahoo, google and other web addresses from the command line.
[20:01] <ghostcube> is any other browser working ?
[20:03] <Barackuse> hmm  dont think I have another one on this machine, just came with fire fox
[20:04] <mondi> join/ #ubuntu-cz
[20:04] <ghostcube> konqueror
[20:04] <Barackuse> I can try and see if I can install another one
[20:04] <Barackuse> just strange to have this happen
[20:04] <ghostcube> Barackuse: konqueror should be installed
[20:04] <Barackuse> checking now
[20:06] <Barackuse> installing it now, for some reason just fire fox was this
[20:06] <ghostcube> what distrie is this
[20:06] <Barackuse> 8.0.4.1  desktop ubuntu
[20:07] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install firefox-3 --reinstall
[20:07] <ghostcube> brb
[20:08] <Barackuse> hmm this is not good.  I can bring up package installer and it checks and brings up a list of apps but when I select one to install iot hangs and the D/l prompt  -  so this tells me DNS is not working right
[20:08] <Barackuse> But I can ping dns names in the command prompt---  hmm
[20:08] <Boinc> ghostcube, ok we are getting there, the screen size fits the monitor now but ive no takbar
[20:08] <Boinc> which i never had before either
[20:09] <Boinc> sorry to be a pain
[20:09] <ghostcube> Boinc: open terminal and type kicker
[20:09] <blekos_> hi, i just upgraded from 3.5.9 to 3.5.10, are there any know issues? I am having problems with logout (i get a blank screen) and my taskbar disappears
[20:09] <ghostcube> blekos: u habve installed compiz-taskbar-fusion ?
[20:10] <blekos_> i think i had but i do not use it
[20:10] <Boinc> ghostcube, its not installed, should i install it?
[20:10] <ghostcube> blekos: uninstall it
[20:10] <ghostcube> Boinc: yes
[20:10] <ghostcube> Boinc: is this kubuntu ?
[20:10] <Boinc> yes m8
[20:10] <Boinc> fresh install
[20:10] <ghostcube> Boinc: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[20:10] <ghostcube> :|
[20:11] <ghostcube> Boinc: before do me a favour
[20:11] <Boinc> ghostcube,  - kicker is installed now
[20:11] <ghostcube> Boinc: kicker & disown in terminal
[20:11] <Boinc> my taskbar is there and it looks better than it did before
[20:11] <ghostcube> Boinc: heh
[20:11] <ghostcube> ok now
[20:11] <ghostcube> Boinc: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[20:11] <ghostcube> but before as i said
[20:11] <Boinc> kicker: WARNING:     *******WARNING****** index=3is out of bounds.
[20:11] <ghostcube> do me a favour
[20:12] <blekos_> could u tell me the command for restarting x
[20:12] <Boinc> sure?
[20:12] <blekos_> ?
[20:12] <ghostcube> ctrl alt backspace
[20:12] <ghostcube> blekos:
[20:12] <Boinc> downloading 411mb
[20:12] <ghostcube> Boinc: open /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:12] <blekos_> doesnt work, is there a command line?
[20:12] <Boinc> ghostcube, downloading 411 to resinstall
[20:13] <Boinc> 411mb*
[20:13] <ghostcube> killall kdm then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[20:13] <ghostcube> blekos:
[20:13] <ghostcube> Boinc: edit this file with sudo kate /etc/apt/(sources.list
[20:14] <ghostcube> Boinc: edit this file with sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:14] <Boinc> ghostcube, default display kdm or kdm-kde4? i downloaded the kd44 installed
[20:14] <ghostcube> ????
[20:14] <Boinc> ghostcube, i cannot im installing what you told me to install before
[20:14] <Boinc> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[20:14] <ghostcube> Boinc: you are on 4.1 ?
[20:14] <Boinc> i think so
[20:14] <miknolan> join #kde-devel
[20:14] <mefisto__> would this work? sudo /etc/init.d/x11-common restart
[20:14] <ghostcube> use kdm4
[20:15] <ghostcube> mefisto__: never tried :|
[20:15] <Boinc> ok
[20:16] <mefisto__> !sudo
[20:16] <Boinc> ok ghostcube  its finnished
[20:16] <ghostcube> Boinc: in this file just remove the # infront of lines starting  with deb
[20:16] <pim> !kdesudo
[20:16] <mefisto__> thanks pim, that's what I wanted
[20:16] <pim> np
[20:25] <vassili_> #kubuntu-ru
[20:26] <vassili_> "kuku
[20:26] <vassili_> "kuku-ru
[20:26] <vassili_> #kuku-ru
[20:35] <vyrgozunqk> mm now compiling kernel 2.6.26.3 :]
[20:36] <vyrgozunqk> and if everything works afreter installing it, i'll buy a beer to everybody here
[20:36] <vyrgozunqk> :D
[20:37]  * ghostcube takes a mohito pls i hate beer 
[20:37] <ghostcube> ^^
[20:37] <vyrgozunqk> no problem :]
[20:37] <ghostcube> heh
[20:38] <vyrgozunqk> i'll send it to you by ebay ;D
[20:38] <vyrgozunqk> for 25 euro
[20:38] <ghostcube> :D
[20:38] <ghostcube> nah then i mix one myself
[20:38] <vyrgozunqk> :D
[20:38] <ghostcube> but thx
[20:38] <ghostcube> :D
[20:38] <vyrgozunqk> 25 eu for the road ;)
[20:39] <ghostcube> :|
[20:39] <ghostcube> nah
[20:39] <ghostcube> im student im poor
[20:39] <ghostcube> :X
[20:39] <vyrgozunqk> the courier has to pay his gasoline :]
[20:39] <vyrgozunqk> we'll i'm too a student, and i'm a poor as as a stinkin rat
[20:39] <vyrgozunqk> ;)
[20:40] <ghostcube> rofl
[20:40] <vyrgozunqk> pff till now the kernel's compiling for almost an hour :/
[20:41] <vyrgozunqk> after that the system is gonna reconfigure xorg, and then i have to recompile wine... that will be another hour... :(
[20:41] <ghostcube> takes time
[20:42] <vyrgozunqk> crappy old Athlon XP :D
[20:43] <vyrgozunqk> only if i haded a Core 2 Duo E2180 ( multiplier 10x ) overclocked to 3.6 Ghz... mmm :]
[20:44] <vyrgozunqk> ]:-}
[20:44] <nickgaydos> lol
[20:47] <vyrgozunqk> yep and that budget CPU cost around 50 $ and more 60 $ for the MB = 110 $... but i don't have such a large sum... cane somebody give me the money, i promise to return them back as soon as i get my first pension
[20:47] <vyrgozunqk> :]
[20:51] <Roey> Hello
[20:51] <Roey> what's with the Pidgin package?
[20:51] <vyrgozunqk> hi
[20:51] <vyrgozunqk> why ?
[20:51] <Roey> I don't see any standard Pidgin icon in my tray
[20:51] <Roey> and it doesn't flash or highlight when someone messages me
[20:52] <vyrgozunqk> hmm maybe its something in the options menu...
[21:03] <Roey> vyrgozunqk:  hmm, maybe
[21:03] <Roey> I check
[21:03] <vyrgozunqk> have you found something ?
[21:05] <Roey> I didnt
[21:05] <Roey> not exactlyu
[21:05] <Roey> though I re-started it and now I have the familiar green/orange icon
[21:05] <Roey> thanks!
[21:09] <vyrgozunqk> :]
[21:09] <Denise> crazy world
[21:10] <vyrgozunqk> Why ?
[21:11] <Denise> I m always scared to do mistakes
[21:11] <Denise> and do the wrong moves
[21:11] <vyrgozunqk> mhm, always gets so ;D
[21:12] <tuxx> im scared of these things too :-)
[21:12] <vyrgozunqk> if yo're scared from them, then they'll happen to you ;)
[21:13] <tuxx> yep, and people around are angry with me
[21:13] <Denise> mayeb at the last moment i did the suicidal move
[21:13] <vyrgozunqk> its a good thing to experiment :)
[21:13] <vyrgozunqk> and take a risc
[21:13] <vyrgozunqk> what have you done ?
[21:13] <Denise> just back a man in my pidgin
[21:14] <Denise> all my system was clean
[21:14] <Denise> now I dunno if i canceled the job or not
[21:15] <Denise> this is complicated that ubuntu
[21:15] <tuxx> everything need time to get used to it
[21:16] <vyrgozunqk> especially if you were used to windoze :D
[21:16] <Denise> I was used to zombizz
[21:16] <vyrgozunqk> :]
[21:17] <tuxx> i was today xtremly angry with the way of installation of frostwire
[21:17] <Denise> and now u are happy?
[21:18] <vyrgozunqk> if everything well ok, he should be happy :]
[21:18] <tuxx> ofc :-) after half an hour spending srearching through google
[21:18] <vyrgozunqk> :D
[21:18] <Boinc> ghostcube, i re-installed and i have the default taskbar again. whats the channel you said i should use though cos i cant remember? ive tried #kubuntu-dev but no ones in there
[21:18] <vyrgozunqk> the open source sommunity is now growing faster than ever, so people be pacient
[21:19] <tuxx> i can't understand, why i need to type dpkg blahblah instead of double clicking od that deb archive
[21:19] <ghostcube> #kubuntu-kde4
[21:19] <Boinc> ahh thanks
[21:19] <vyrgozunqk> maybe your home folder is with name that differs from english
[21:20] <vyrgozunqk> cause if your ddeb files is on desktop or home with different name gdebi can't work with them
[21:20] <ghostcube> tuxx: :| dpkg -i isnt much work i think so
[21:20] <Andrew_Barber> Is there a reason I would get audio from my front jack but not the rear?
[21:20] <vyrgozunqk> well but after all it's a bit of a work ;)
[21:21] <vyrgozunqk> you haven't configured alsa ...
[21:21] <Andrew_Barber> vyrgozunqk: whats the best way to do this?
[21:22] <vyrgozunqk> thought alsa mixer
[21:22] <Andrew_Barber> vyrgozunqk: hmm $alsamixer   ?
[21:22] <vyrgozunqk> ops Kmix
[21:23] <vyrgozunqk> :]
[21:23] <tuxx> ghostcube: dpkg worked...only that double clicking wasnt
[21:23] <Andrew_Barber> vyrgozunqk: I've been trying to get it to work from kmix forever
[21:24] <ghostcube> so what is the prob exactly
[21:24] <ghostcube> only front speakers working ?
[21:24] <Andrew_Barber> yes ghostcube
[21:24] <vyrgozunqk> wait a sec to make a screenshot
[21:24] <ghostcube> u got 5.1 ?
[21:24] <Andrew_Barber> No
[21:24] <Andrew_Barber> Im going from rear audio jack to rca cable on my tv
[21:25] <ghostcube> ahh ok
[21:25] <Andrew_Barber> It works with ubuntu, but not kubuntu so I know its a config somewhere
[21:25] <ghostcube> so this is line out ?
[21:25] <vyrgozunqk> should be there
[21:25] <tuxx> are there any drivers for Creative usb soundblaster audio?
[21:26] <Andrew_Barber> ghostcube: Yes line out.
[21:27] <mefisto__> so you want to use your tv for sound output?
[21:28] <Boinc> if i enable desktop effects and it messes up how can i revert back?
[21:28] <ghostcube> disable them ?
[21:29] <Boinc> how if i cannot see anything?
[21:29] <Andrew_Barber> mefisto__: Yes sir
[21:29] <ghostcube> Boinc: why is it messed up
[21:29] <ghostcube> :|
[21:30] <Boinc> its ok bud its worked, things went black and white last time and i had to re-install
[21:30] <Boinc> think its because i didnt have the drivers installed
[21:30] <mefisto__> Andrew_Barber: and this setup is working in ubuntu but not kubuntu?
[21:30] <smarty> quick question: is it possible to keep windows on a particular desktop. forexample, i dont want to see firefox open in desktop 2 when its open in desktop 1 (i dont want to see the firefox tab in the panel)
[21:30] <Boinc> one last thing, how do i enable my other monitors please?
[21:30] <ghostcube> Boinc: with nvidia drivers all should work
[21:31] <ghostcube> Boinc: u can do this with a trick type in terminal nvidia-settings
[21:31] <ghostcube> this opens nvidia tool its like windooz a bit
[21:31] <Boinc> will try
[21:31] <ghostcube> u will figuere this out  but only apply
[21:31] <ghostcube> dont save to oiginal xorg.conf
[21:32] <ghostcube> if u have done all and want to start by default
[21:32] <ghostcube> save the settings to desktop
[21:32] <ghostcube> and use only the changes inside of the new file
[21:32] <ghostcube> and put them into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:32] <ghostcube> ;)
[21:33] <mefisto__> smarty: if I understand you correctly, you can do that by right-click the panel, configure panel, taskbar, and untick "show windows from all desktops"
[21:33] <Boinc> so just save settings to desktop unless i want to use them by default?
[21:33] <vyrgozunqk> now i'm really nervous
[21:33] <ghostcube> Boinc: nah just apply
[21:33] <vyrgozunqk> i want to kill somebody
[21:33] <ghostcube> if u want to use temp
[21:33] <Boinc> but will they stay enabled when i reboot?
[21:33] <ghostcube> if u want to use default safe the ile to desktop not to etc
[21:34] <ghostcube> and then only use the changes
[21:34] <ghostcube> and copy them over
[21:34] <ghostcube> so u wont kill the working xorg
[21:34] <Boinc> i'll get it working first
[21:34] <Boinc> im not the cleverest person in the world
[21:35] <Andrew_Barber> most clever***
[21:35] <ghostcube> Andrew_Barber: hmm my line out works
[21:35] <Andrew_Barber> ghostcube: hmmm yah only my front wks ..
[21:35] <Boinc> hmm it wont let me use the other monitors unless i select another x session
[21:35] <ghostcube> Boinc: twinview
[21:35] <Andrew_Barber> Is there a certain channel for rear jack??
[21:36] <Boinc> only lets me do twinview on the monitor on the same video card
[21:36] <ghostcube> have u enabled full duplex in systemsettings
[21:36] <Boinc> ive got 2 cards and 4 monitors. 1 monitor is a tv that i just turn on now and again to watch movies on
[21:36] <ghostcube> oi
[21:36] <Boinc> full duplex, no this is the first time ive ever used this
[21:36] <Boinc> where do i go please?
[21:37] <ghostcube> Boinc: nah was for andrew
[21:37] <ghostcube> :D
[21:37] <Boinc> ohh
[21:37] <mefisto__> Boinc: some video drivers (like mine) need the tv to be on when booting up, otherwise tv out won't work
[21:37] <Andrew_Barber> I think it is not selected
[21:37] <ghostcube> u can set up the two cards by crating two devices
[21:37] <Boinc> mefisto__,  - i dont want to use the tv mainly though, i just want the 3 monitors really
[21:37] <Andrew_Barber> now its e=selected and no change
[21:38] <Boinc> im happy leaving the tv off
[21:38] <veritas__> blast it, my prtscreen button stoppworking after migrating to KDE4.1
[21:38] <ghostcube> Boinc:  u need to tell xorg the both cards and manage the windows by twinview then
[21:39] <ghostcube> i dont know how to get 3 windows on
[21:39] <ghostcube> never tried so far
[21:39] <Andrew_Barber> would nvidia-settings help with this??
[21:39] <ghostcube> if it detects both cards yes
[21:39] <Andrew_Barber> Boinc.. nvidia cards>?
[21:39] <mano> hello all!!
[21:39] <ghostcube> Boinc: is nidia-settings detecting both cards
[21:39] <Boinc> it detecs both cards, 3 monitors and the tv
[21:39] <ghostcube> cool
[21:40] <ghostcube> so set all up and save the xorg.conf file
[21:40] <mano> i want to change kubuntu to spanish, what do i have to install?
[21:40] <Boinc> ghostcube,  but i can only enable the other 2 monitors as a seperate x screen
[21:40] <ghostcube> yes
[21:41] <ghostcube> this is normal for two cards
[21:41] <Boinc> im not sure what that means but i want to move seemingless between all 3 monitors
[21:41] <Boinc> as though it was 1 monitor
[21:41] <ghostcube> this could be workiong as i said never tried this
[21:41] <mano> pleease help with spanish
[21:41] <Boinc> ok i'll try
[21:41] <Twen> Hi, which package should I install to play with kdevelop & Qt4 ?
[21:41] <ghostcube> !spain
[21:42] <ghostcube> !es
[21:42] <ghostcube> :)
[21:42] <pablo_> does anyone know if amsn is working now or it still sucks ?
[21:43] <mefisto__> mano: in systemsettings, regional and language, there is a button "install new language"
[21:43] <veritas__> can anyone figure out what distro/liveCD this is from? http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/8334/snapshot2qs6.png
[21:43] <veritas__> hm
[21:43] <smarty> anyone know how to remove the bubble that comes down when someone messages u in kopete
[21:43] <pablo_> does anyone know if amsn is working now or it still sucks ?
[21:43] <veritas__> smarty: yes, remove all notifications
[21:44] <ghostcube> veritas__: knoppix :|
[21:44] <veritas__> ghostcube: thx
[21:44] <smarty> veritas: where do i do that
[21:44] <Andrew_Barber> ghostcube you think knoppix? I was gonna guess slax
[21:44] <ghostcube> could be any opensuse too
[21:45] <Dragnslcr> smarty- Settings -> Configure Notifications
[21:45] <ghostcube> but knoppix is mostly filles with packages
[21:45] <Andrew_Barber> true
[21:45] <smarty> damn, i feel like an idiot - thanks
[21:45] <ghostcube> or sabayon if compiz is on
[21:47] <veritas__> the screenshot looked like a sabayon liveCD
[21:48] <pablo> hi .. im nex in ubuntu and wanted to know how  is it that KOPETE works ... how do i get to see my contacts '??
[21:48] <veritas__> you first have to add an account
[21:48] <pablo> where is that option ?
[21:48] <veritas__> goto configure->accounts
[21:50] <Twen> which package should I install to play with kdevelop & Qt4 ?
[21:50] <veritas__> Twen: apt-get kdevelop libqt4-core
[21:51] <Twen> thanks veritas_
[21:53] <pablo>  thanks veritas_
[21:56] <Boinc> ghostcube, i keep trying to enable the other monitor but i need to apply it to the config i think which i cannot do
[22:00] <Boinc> ghostcube, it cannot create or delete backup files. im guessing as it doesnt have permissions too do anything in /etc/X11 directory
[22:00] <Boinc> so i cannot save configs and enable the other monitors
[22:01] <ghostcube> hmm just save the file to desktop
[22:01] <ghostcube> u can choose this
[22:01] <Boinc> cant save there either
[22:01] <Boinc> ohh saved now
[22:02] <ghostcube> ok so maybe backup the old xorg.conf as xorg.conf-backup
[22:02] <ghostcube> and then edit it
[22:02] <DarkriftX> anyone know how to make startx start kde4 instead of 3?
[22:03] <Boinc> think ive managed it
[22:03] <DarkriftX> i installed kde4, and it killed kdm.... so now i get a console login and use startx to start kde, but id like to have the option of kde3 or 4
[22:03] <Boinc> so do i paste the contents into my existing file or replace it?
[22:03] <ghostcube> hmmm maybe just copy the new one to /etc/X11
[22:04] <ghostcube> if this works
[22:04] <ghostcube> sudo cp
[22:04] <ghostcube> and make a backup from the old one
[22:08] <Boinc> ghostcube, ok done
[22:08] <Boinc> do i restart whole pc or just gui with ctrl+alt_backspace ?
[22:08] <ghostcube> restart x should do it
[22:09] <Boinc> ok brb, thank you again
[22:13] <Barackuse> woot, on the internet now
[22:13] <Barackuse> has anyone had trouble getting flash installed and working?
[22:16]  * Boinc kisses ghostcube 
[22:16] <Boinc> working buddy
[22:16] <mefisto__> !flash
[22:18] <Boinc> ghostcube,  - one more thing please, i have another 2 hard drives that are not plugged in. Can I just plug them in and i can access them?
[22:18] <Barackuse> yea thanks, been there, read that, twice.  But I did manage to get it working, thanks again for your help
[22:18] <ghostcube> Boinc: heh cool that it works
[22:19] <ghostcube> Boinc: if u plug them in they should be noticed
[22:19] <ghostcube> in /dev/sdx
[22:19] <Boinc> ghostcube,  - sorry im lost
[22:20] <Boinc> their sata hard drives
[22:20] <ghostcube> Boinc: if u plug the drives to mb
[22:20] <mefisto__> Barackuse: so flash is working? you solved the problem already?
[22:20] <ghostcube> and reboot they should be there
[22:20] <Boinc> ok great i'll try now
[22:20] <Boinc> brb
[22:20] <ghostcube> u will find them in /dev
[22:20] <Boinc> ok 2 ticks buddy
[22:20] <Boinc> brb
[22:22] <rohan> hi. i have the "apache2" package installed. how do i prevent the web server from starting on every boot? i don't know how to disable services in upstart
[22:23] <ghostcube> couldnt this be done by dpkg-reconfigure apache2 ?
[22:23] <ghostcube> isnt itasking for start method
[22:23] <shamil> ok rohan
[22:23] <shamil> what you need to do is go into system settings
[22:23] <shamil> once in there click the advanced tab
[22:23] <shamil> then click system services
[22:23] <DarkriftX> i cant remember where to go to change the kicker background
[22:24] <shamil> then you should be able to disable the web server from starting upon startup
[22:24] <ghostcube> rightklick kicker panel
[22:24] <rohan> shamil: wow, that works! thanks a lot
[22:24] <ghostcube> preferences
[22:24] <ghostcube> last tab down
[22:24] <shamil> darkriftx
[22:24] <shamil> i have your answer
[22:24] <DarkriftX> ahhh
[22:24] <DarkriftX> found it
[22:24] <DarkriftX> didnt think to right click on kicker :S
[22:24] <shamil> you got it
[22:25] <shamil> does anyone have an answer for me:p
[22:25] <shamil> i'm running dual monitors, and the applet chooser for kicker is not showing up with the option to add another system tray
[22:25] <shamil> i know i have that applet otherwise i wouldn't have a system tray in the first place
[22:25] <shamil> this is super annoying:(
[22:26] <shamil> i just want two system trays for kicker
[22:26] <DarkriftX> ok, now how do i change the color of text on buttons?
[22:26] <DarkriftX> i picked a color scheme, and i like everything except for text color
[22:26] <shamil> ok
[22:27] <shamil> i know this one
[22:27] <shamil> this one was slightly complicated:p
[22:28] <DarkriftX> found it!
[22:28] <DarkriftX> im getting good at this lol
[22:28] <shamil> ok:p
[22:28] <shamil> yeah the font color choosing for kicker is a little harder to find:p
[22:28] <ghostcube> systemsettings appearance klick the one u need in colors
[22:28] <ghostcube> :)
[22:29] <shamil> actually ghostcube systemsettings, going to appearance, and then clicking colors is actually where you do not change the color of the font for kicker
[22:29] <ghostcube> nah for the text
[22:30] <shamil> for changing the color of the text for kicker, right click on kicker to configure it
[22:30] <shamil> it's in there
[22:30] <ghostcube> thats not what he asked but :)
[22:30] <DarkriftX> nice
[22:30] <DarkriftX> made everything a little darker
[22:31] <DarkriftX> i just wish i didnt have to restart xchat everytime i make changes to preview them
[22:31] <shamil> oh well:p
[22:31] <ghostcube> kwin --replace &
[22:31] <ghostcube> will reload kwin
[22:31] <shamil> lol, it sucks when kwin crashes:p
[22:31] <ghostcube> im not on kwin
[22:32] <shamil> yes but in general, it just sucks when kwin crashes
[22:32] <ghostcube> sure thats why im not on kwin :D
[22:32] <shamil> good idea
[22:32] <ghostcube> so i have a puffer for crashes
[22:32] <ghostcube> :D
[22:32] <shamil> kwin works pretty good, but when it crashes, you can't move any open windows at all
[22:33] <shamil> which window manager you use?
[22:33] <ghostcube> compiz
[22:33] <mefisto__> the alt-mouse combo still works to move windows, doesn't it?
[22:33] <shamil> oh wow
[22:34] <ghostcube> medo: yep
[22:34] <ghostcube> ups
[22:34] <ghostcube> mefisto__: yep
[22:34] <shamil> i don't like compiz too much, it's really nice, but i wish it were more stable...which is increasing, other than that, i have to shut it down when i play my games anyway
[22:35] <omar> kubuntu is unstable
[22:35] <shamil> without compiz kde has more than enough customizibility for eye candy for me anyway
[22:35] <ghostcube> shamil: i can pülay my games with compiz enabled :)
[22:36] <shamil> i'd get some really bad slow downs if i did
[22:36] <ghostcube> i only play 2  games
[22:36] <omar> ese sebas
[22:36] <omar> hola jessi
[22:36] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I remember having issues with GL games and Compiz
[22:36] <jessica> hey guys
[22:36] <Dragnslcr> That was the only real stability problem I remember
[22:36] <shamil> i was playing openarena and frozenbubble and chromium
[22:36] <shamil> omar, sometimes ubuntu doesn't put out good releases
[22:37] <ghostcube> i play et and doom 3 :D
[22:37] <ghostcube> but enough ot
[22:37] <shamil> cool
[22:37] <ghostcube> :|
[22:37] <shamil> :p
[22:37] <shamil> considering my last card was a 7600gt
[22:37] <shamil> compiz pissed me off sometimes
[22:37] <omar> someone knows how ti play age of empires with hamcho on kubuntu?
[22:37] <omar> how to sorry
[22:37] <shamil> yes omar, get wine
[22:37] <omar> hamachi
[22:38] <shamil> hop into console and do "sudo apt-get install wine"
[22:38] <omar> but the game run stable?
[22:38]  * jessica is tierd
[22:38] <shamil> idk if it will or not
[22:38] <omar> yes i have winE
[22:38] <shamil> i don't have age of empires
[22:38] <shamil> ok
[22:38] <shamil> i have a reference for you then
[22:38] <mefisto__> omar: it's stable, but a little slower than running natively in windows. depends on the speed of your machine I suppose
[22:39] <shamil> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1007 here you go omar
[22:39] <omar> thank you shamil
[22:39] <shamil> that'll give you everything you need to know about running age of empires in wine that you need to know
[22:39] <shamil> and tested on hardy as well
[22:40] <mefisto__> omar: I didn't even have to install it in wine, just ran the executable from my windows partition and it worked perfectly
[22:40] <shamil> that'll do it too:), if you already have it installed in windows, just run the executable
[22:41] <shamil> run the executable in ubuntu...since you have wine
[22:41] <Boinc> ghostcube, ive had to bootup from the boot cd as when i plugged the other 2 drives in, it loads kububtu but do not load the x session. it sits there with a black screen and no hard drive activity. I tried it with 2 drives and it did the same, so i tried it with my original drive and it still just shows a black screen.
[22:41] <Boinc> seems its messed up something
[22:41] <omar> do you know how to play it with hamachi
[22:42] <uoaphys> ﻿Hi, in K3B, when I burn 4.5GB of files onto a 4.7gb data dvd in data dvd compilation mode, why does an info line come up that says "Trying to write more than the official disk capacity" ?
[22:42] <shamil> no i don't omar, i have never played age of empires:p
[22:43] <shamil> uoaphys, 4.7gb is only 4464mb
[22:43] <shamil> do you calculations for burning dvd's in mb, then you'll probably wont be trying to overfill a dvd on accident
[22:43] <omar> it was for mefisto... sorry
[22:44] <uoaphys> oh crap, so if its overfilled, it just hoses the dvd?
[22:44] <uoaphys> im like 20MB over then if that is the case shamil
[22:44] <Boinc> help - what can i do if kubuntu tries to load but im just getting a black screen when the x session starts?
[22:44] <shamil> no if it's over filled it wont burn:p
[22:45] <uoaphys> shamil, but it says its more than the official disk size
[22:45] <shamil> so remove some data from the burn session before you burn
[22:45] <uoaphys> shamil, why does K3B show my session to be 4.5GB then if it doesn't bother to show the difference?
[22:45] <uoaphys> yea i already started the session... I guess we will see what happens
[22:45] <shamil> because burning dvd's is a lot different than burning cd's
[22:46] <shamil> that's why when i burn i do all my calculations in MB because the gb field can be a bit misleading
[22:46] <uoaphys> yea, shouldn't the dvd burning app kinda do the calculation automatically though?
[22:46] <shamil> it does
[22:47] <uoaphys> it says 4.5GB here, and i stuck in a dvd that says 4.7gb on it
[22:47] <shamil> plus i just opened up k3b, it says only 4.4 of a dvd can be burned
[22:47] <uoaphys> so no it doesn't
[22:47] <shamil> ok
[22:47] <shamil> uoaphys
[22:47] <shamil> open up k3b real fast
[22:47] <uoaphys> k
[22:47] <shamil> and then click burn dvd data disc
[22:47] <uoaphys> ok well i will ahve to wait till k3b finishes this burn
[22:47] <uoaphys> sorry
[22:47] <uoaphys> i'll check it out tho
[22:47] <shamil> oh ok:p
[22:48] <shamil> anyway
[22:48] <mefisto__> uoaphys: see bottom right of window, where it says Available 4.4gb 4.4gb? right-click that, and you'll get an explanation, or you can change the size
[22:48] <DarkriftX> is there a way to make the kicker image work for the time/date also? it looks like crap the way it is
[22:48] <shamil> mefisto, thx, that's what i was trying to point him too:)
[22:48] <shamil> darkriftx, right click on the clock
[22:48] <shamil> and then click configure clock
[22:49] <mefisto__> basically 4.7gb is a lie, kind of
[22:49] <DarkriftX> im there, but it only lets you pick colors
[22:49] <DarkriftX> my kicker image is a gradient
[22:49] <shamil> it lets yo upick more
[22:49] <shamil> you can change the clock type, and the background for the clock in there
[22:49] <uoaphys> mefisto, i can understand that, its just that when I was compiling my disk to 4.5GB (4483MB) it did no warnings or anything until after i started the burn process.. thats really the main thing that is frustrating i guess
[22:50] <MrKennie> 4.7GB is correct
[22:50] <shamil> well now you know you the truth uoaphys:)
[22:50] <MrKennie> it's actually 4.4GiB
[22:51] <shamil> a tip for you uoaphys, use dvd-rw's for practice burns, or just use dvd-rw's in general:)
[22:51] <shamil> you can always rewrite them, and that is really handy
[22:51] <uoaphys> naa dvd-r is cheaper and if iburn a coaster its not the end of the world for me, mostly time really
[22:52] <shamil> aaah, true, but i'm still using my stack of 25 dvd-rw media from 2 years ago
[22:52] <uoaphys> i have had lots of probs with DVD-RW's because even the slightest scratches on the surface after using them a few times causes the burns to be less and less reliable
[22:52] <uoaphys> so IMO, RW is misleading, unless you plan to not use the RW in between rewrites
[22:52] <shamil> having a good brand of rw media, and it lasts a long time, plus i use dvd+rw's, the dvd-rw's are actually not as good
[22:53] <uoaphys> yea but even a piece of dust can ruin the burn process on a dvd
[22:53] <shamil> yeah
[22:53] <shamil> you use + or - dvd media?
[22:53] <uoaphys> i use -R but thats cos thats what I got
[22:53] <uoaphys> never really bothered with +r all that much, here and there though
[22:54] <Boinc> help - what can i do if kubuntu tries to load but im just getting a black screen when the x session starts?
[22:54] <shamil> ok, use that till you run out, the next purchase you should make is +, check out the tech specs for +
[22:54] <uoaphys> kinda against the whole principle of sony making a +R to thumb their nose as the official -R standard
[22:54] <shamil> +r and -r were competing standards, but all dvd players and burners support them today
[22:55] <uoaphys> yea, they do
[22:55] <DarkriftX> ok, one more q.... can i tell kde to show 24px icons on desktop instead of 32px?
[22:55] <shamil> usually the more popular standard wins, which doesn't mean the best standard won, + works very good:)
[22:55] <uoaphys> but -R was the standard, sony came out with + a year afterwards for real no apparent reason
[22:55] <uoaphys> now when you buy a a +r you pay sony a few cents per disk
[22:55] <uoaphys> in royalties
[22:55] <shamil> lol, i know, +r has better jitter correction and so on though:p
[22:56] <uoaphys> yea, it has better multisession too, and stuff like that
[22:56] <ghostcube> Boinc: hmmm
[22:56] <ghostcube> are the drives still connected ?
[22:57] <shamil> the one thing i hate about dvd media, is that the 9gb dvd's don't come in rw:(
[22:57] <Boinc> no m8, ive disconnected them
[22:57] <ErikWestrup> How do I get the current time from the terminal?
[22:57] <uoaphys> 9gb, as in DL's?
[22:57] <MrKennie> date
[22:57] <ghostcube> Boinc: and u removed the cd from the drive
[22:57] <shamil> there's 4.7gb dvd media and 9gb dvd media
[22:57] <ghostcube> to boot the kernel on the default hd
[22:57] <gkffjcs_> How do I start my wireless networking before I start the x server, for instance if I want /home to be an nfs mount
[22:58] <Boinc> ghostcube, it wasnt it
[22:58] <Boinc> ghostcube, i only put it in to boot back up in here so i could talk to you
[22:58] <shamil> 9gb might be what you want to purchase next, since you don't care about RW capability like me, that 9gb preference sounds like it fits you good though
[22:58] <uoaphys> hey u guys wanna know how lame ubuntu is (the gnome version) when you enable compiz on the desktop, the "show desktop" button TOGGLES minimizing and restoring all the windows on your desktop, rather than actually showing you the desktop, lame ehh?
[22:58] <MrKennie> gkffjcs_: I configured mine manually but I think wicd might work too.
[22:59] <telecaster> hi
[22:59] <uoaphys> so if its the second click of the show desktop button, even if you want it to show the desktop, it goes ahead and restores everything first lol
[22:59] <Boinc> basically everything was working then once i plugged the other drives in it messed up. unplugged them and still just get a black screen
[22:59] <shamil> ............uoaphys, one of the other reasons i don't use compiz:p
[22:59] <ghostcube> Boinc: if u get the black screen try to type
[22:59] <ghostcube> startx
[22:59] <uoaphys> shamil; yea but u know whats lame, i reported it to launchpad, and they closed it and said "someone should report this to gnome"
[22:59] <uoaphys> im like, LAME, i already reported it!!!!
[22:59] <ghostcube> if this isnt working do a sudo update-grub
[22:59] <shamil> uugghh:p
[22:59] <shamil> lol
[22:59] <gkffjcs_> How do I configure it manually?
[22:59] <ghostcube> sudo update-initramfs
[23:00] <shamil> just don't use compiz then i say:)
[23:00] <gkffjcs_> MrKennie:
[23:00] <uoaphys> IMO, whether its an ubuntu packaging bug, or a gnome bug, you ought to be able to report them to ubuntu directly
[23:00] <ghostcube> shamil: this si not compiz related
[23:00] <telecaster> i installed hardy with kde on  a laptop with only 128mb ram, 2,6ghz cpu and 1gb swap, its very slow, kde runs on a 350mhz cpu with round 400mb ram faster, and i could only install with acpi=off noapic and nolapic
[23:00] <shamil> i'm more for the utilitarian interface though:(
[23:00] <Ralesk> hi people
[23:00] <shamil> ghostcube he said compiz
[23:00] <Boinc> ghostcube, i think its started the x session but its black
[23:00] <Ralesk> Is it me, or KDE 3.5.10 has introduced some bugs to kicker applets?
[23:00] <Boinc> as i see the x appear on the screen before it goes black
[23:00] <uoaphys> is there a way to make KDE4.1 do a spinning cube?
[23:01] <ghostcube> shamil: oh sorry havent seen
[23:01] <ghostcube> :D
[23:01] <mefisto__> DarkriftX: did you get an answer to the desktop icons question?
[23:01] <shamil> uoaphys, yes with compiz
[23:01] <DarkriftX> nope
[23:01] <Boinc> it flashes up just before it does black
[23:01] <fernando> hello
[23:01] <MrKennie> gkffjcs_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 loosk like what you need to configure it manually
[23:01] <uoaphys> shamil: I thought kde4.1 had its own compositing desktop
[23:01] <shamil> it does, you can use either compiz, or use the built in kde compositing
[23:01] <mefisto__> DarkriftX: in systemsettings, appearance, icons, advanced, you can choose the icon sizes there
[23:01] <gkffjcs_> Thanks, Ille check it out.
[23:01] <shamil> idk if it does the spinning cube or not
[23:02] <shamil> ralesk, kde 3.5.10 as far as i know is not released yet, or at least not in ubuntu repos yet, except maybe the next version
[23:02] <DarkriftX> nice
[23:02] <ghostcube> its in backports
[23:02] <ghostcube> ^^
[23:02] <ghostcube> im on 3.5.10
[23:02] <shamil> cool
[23:02] <Ralesk> shamil: umm, the next version (intrepid) will have no 3.5 KDE in the first place
[23:02] <shamil> be careful with backports
[23:03] <uoaphys> you think ubuntu intrepid will have 4.2 or 4.1 kde?
[23:03] <ghostcube> i use proposed to
[23:03] <shamil> backports aren't really maintained by the ubuntu devs
[23:03] <ceco> hi guys i need help with fglrx i compiled a kernel, but now i cant install fglrx
[23:03] <shamil> i hope intrepid has 4.2
[23:03] <ceco> it says
[23:03] <shamil> 4.1 is an incomplete product
[23:03] <ceco> Error! Could not locate fglrx.ko for module fglrx in the DKMS tree.
[23:03] <MrKennie> 4.1, 4.2 isn't out till jan 2009
[23:03] <ceco> You must run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.26.3-ultimate (i686) first.
[23:03] <ceco> Done.
[23:03] <uoaphys> whats wrong with 4.1
[23:03] <Ralesk> ghostcube: do you use the quicklauncher or an analogue clock?
[23:03] <uoaphys> i thought 4.1 was kinda like the real final release (since 4.0 was such a bug storm)
[23:04] <ghostcube> kiba-dock
[23:04] <shamil> kde devs didn't finish integrating all the features in it
[23:04] <Ralesk> uoaphys: there's no such thing as "final" :)
[23:04] <ceco> does someone know how to fix this cause i cant enable direct rendering... :/
[23:04] <shamil> uoaphys, kde 3.5.9 also has built in compositing features as well
[23:04] <uoaphys> 4.1 is SO much nicer than 4.0 though
[23:04] <shamil> 4.0 was a beta release
[23:04] <shamil> 4.1 is still part of that as well
[23:05] <uoaphys> when are the apps going to be ported to win/mac, is that scheduled for 4.2?
[23:05] <shamil> kde devs say not to use kde 4 until they green light a release which will be 4.2
[23:05] <shamil> uoaphys, now you know why many still aren't using kde4 yet
[23:06] <ghostcube> ceco: hmmm fglrx is a pain in the ass in normal install in user kernel oi
[23:06] <uoaphys> i really like it, but the panel just is incomplete IMO
[23:06] <Ralesk> ghostcube: could you try to add those two to your kicker?  for me the kclockapplet looks really washed out now, and didn't in 3.5.9 -- and the quicklauncher has the icons cropped
[23:06] <uoaphys> and the start menu is hard to work with
[23:06] <shamil> exactly my point uoaphys, in 4.2 it should be feature complete
[23:06] <ceco> yes but i haven't got any problems till now, i've just finished compiling the kernel... and it says something for dkms...
[23:06] <Ralesk> shamil: hopefully, but I'm cynical about it, no offence...
[23:06] <ceco> and i really don't know how to work with dkms
[23:06] <ceco> :/
[23:07] <shamil> cynical about what ralesk?
[23:07] <Ralesk> 4.2 being feature complete :P
[23:07] <shamil> oh
[23:07] <shamil> you could be right about that
[23:07] <ceco> i can't understand that - You must run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.26.3-ultimate (i686) first.
[23:08] <shamil> not going to use kde until the kde people say it's good to use, or if kubuntu does a really good job at kde 4 in intrepid
[23:08] <shamil> lol i meant to say kde 4 through all of that:p
[23:09] <uoaphys> shamil: hahah, why would kubuntu do really good job at kde4 in intrepid
[23:09] <uoaphys> i can't think of a single kubuntu release that wasn't horrible
[23:09] <ghostcube> Ralesk: hmm the clock and the quciklaunch look ok here
[23:09] <ghostcube> uoaphys: ^^
[23:09] <uoaphys> its like. half the apps are compiled improperly and installed with wrong permissions, etc
[23:09] <shamil> kubuntu usually does a great job at making at doing kde
[23:09] <ghostcube> i have no probs here
[23:10] <Ralesk> ghostcube: could you upload a screenie somewhere? (or I'll PM you a URL where you can upload)
[23:10] <shamil> lol, uoaphys, in gutsy i had major problems with crap like that
[23:10] <ghostcube> u mean kde 3 or ?
[23:10] <uoaphys> kubuntu 7.10 didn't even work with wired ethernet, cos knetwork manager was disabling dhcp by default, took them 3 months to fix
[23:10] <ghostcube> i hate dhcp lol
[23:10] <shamil> i hated 7.1, my wired net would stop working after i had enabled nvidia-glx
[23:10] <Ralesk> uoaphys: I had no problems whatsoever, dunno :)
[23:10] <uoaphys> why, it should just work, if it doesn't, software is bugged out
[23:11] <Ralesk> NetworkManager is a pile of gaaaahhhhhhhh anyway
[23:11] <Kaapa> hello. Never installed kubuntu, does the install cd come with a partitioning tool?
[23:11] <shamil> ralesk
[23:11] <shamil> networkmanager is a pile of crap:)
[23:11] <shamil> there is an alternative though
[23:11] <Ralesk> Kaapa: sure it does
[23:11] <uoaphys> and 7.10's adapt pakage was totally broken too
[23:11] <uoaphys> adept
[23:11] <Ralesk> shamil: /etc/network/interfaces is a perfect alternative for me :p
[23:12] <Kaapa> Ralesk: I mean like *parted, not fdisk.
[23:12] <uoaphys> they might as well just leave adept out and put in synaptic who cares if its gtk
[23:12] <mefisto__> uoaphys: it's very hard to test everything with every conceivable hardware setup before release
[23:12] <shamil> here you go ralesk http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[23:12] <ghostcube> Ralesk: www.homeinc.de/stuff/screenie7.jpg
[23:12] <shamil> that's true ralesk that is a good alternative
[23:12] <Kaapa> wanna installet in a laptop that has a full windows vista partition and I', a bit scared :S
[23:12] <shamil> but for those requiring a gui, wicd is awesome
[23:12] <shamil> networkmanager has actually gotten good enough for me to use........for once, so i use it now
[23:13] <uoaphys> yea i know, just silly is all, that knetworkmanager and gnome networkmanager use totally different logic inside them, rather than just being ports of eachother to qt or gtk
[23:13] <shamil> just frontends they are
[23:13] <uoaphys> so the kde version just totally hosed the entire 7.10 release
[23:13] <shamil> yeah
[23:13] <shamil> 7.1 was so unusable i went to pclinuxos for a whle
[23:13] <uoaphys> yea, but u know, the gnome ubuntu 7.1 was perfect
[23:14] <uoaphys> almost no real bugs
[23:14] <ghostcube> uffz pure lie
[23:14] <ghostcube> :D
[23:14] <Ralesk> ghostcube: the quicklauncher looks okay... hmmm  but I meant analog clock actually :)  text renders fine, it just can't seem to get the clock graphics right
[23:14] <ghostcube> hmm
[23:14] <ghostcube> ok
[23:14] <shamil> even in the gnome one of 7.1 enabling nvidia-glx made my net no longer work
[23:14] <shamil> it was really gay
[23:14] <uoaphys> hey, i hate gnome, but at least a clean install of ubuntu 7.1 worked with networkmanager and synaptic by default, and the same couldn't be said for kubuntu 7.10 which didn't
[23:14] <shamil> anything gutsy based was hell for me
[23:14] <ghostcube> Ralesk: can confirm clock crappy
[23:14] <Ralesk> what's this 7.1 you're talking about? :)
[23:14] <uoaphys> now in 8.04, hplip is broken to hell on all inkjet hp usb printers
[23:15] <LjL> shamil: did it like same-sex video cards?
[23:15] <uoaphys> 7.10
[23:15] <shamil> 7.1, 7.10, same thing
[23:15] <Ralesk> hardly
[23:15] <uoaphys> well 7.1 would imply january lol
[23:15] <shamil> lol
[23:15] <Ralesk> :)
[23:15] <shamil> ok, 7.10 i mean to say
[23:15] <shamil> i hate rpms to death though, so i was happy when ubuntu made a better release this time
[23:15] <uoaphys> yea
[23:15] <shamil> mandriva does rpms good, that's about it:p
[23:16] <uoaphys> thats the real true reason i use ubuntu, is rpm hell
[23:16] <uoaphys> yea screw that man
[23:16] <shamil> true dat
[23:16] <uoaphys> suse, mandriva, fedora
[23:16] <uoaphys> why even bother
[23:16] <shamil> suse is the worst with rpms, fedora is standard use for rpm hell
[23:16] <uoaphys> IMO, the best way to get kubuntu is to install ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop on top of it
[23:16] <shamil> mandriva was the only good one that did them good
[23:17] <Ralesk> I gave a spin to some other distros recently (like in october last year) -- yum was decent, but the fedora repo contained the most brainfucked naming scheme ever (some things were capitalised, some not, it was all gahhh)
[23:17] <ghostcube> hmmm anyone here onm kde 3.5.10 compiz can confirm window previews isnt working for taskbar
[23:17] <shamil> urpmi is better than yum
[23:17] <Ralesk> suse has one of the nicest installers ever, but I couldn't figure out how to use yast once inside the system
[23:17] <dr_Willis> 3.5.10? Hmm i thought 3.5.9 was the latest..
[23:17] <Ralesk> and heck, I've been using linux since '99, so it wasn't my first one!
[23:18] <shamil> lol, suse does have a great installer
[23:18] <Ralesk> (and my first distro *was* an ancient suse)
[23:18] <shamil> wow
[23:18] <B3ny0-> don't play it
[23:19] <shamil> i would be using pure debian right now, but stable is too old, debian unstable is unstable, and debian testing doesn't have everything in there, and getting proprietary stuff installed in pure debian is a bitch
[23:19] <Ralesk> so like, in yast you have a bunch of icons that are kinds named the same and should do some installing or upgrading but totally wouldn't work.  shame really :P   then people said "yeah, it's messed up, but they're releasing 10.3 (or what the next one was) just a few weeks from now, and it's fixed there, you have a bad timing"
[23:20] <Ralesk> s/kinds/kinda/
[23:20] <shamil> yast was really cool, except the mandriva control panel is a lot less frightening:)
[23:20] <Ralesk> heheh, I agree on the frightening part, yes XD
[23:20] <shamil> i wish that mandriva would port their invictus firewall though:(
[23:20] <Ralesk> so yeah, back to Debian stuff for now :)
[23:20] <shamil> yeah:p
[23:20] <Ralesk> Adept is nice, except when they break it.
[23:20] <ghostcube> dr_Willis: in backport is 5.10
[23:21] <shamil> i want the mandriva firewall though, closest thing to zonealarm i found for linux:)
[23:21] <dr_Willis> ghostcube,  its installing now. :)
[23:21] <ghostcube> if  u have installed kicker-taskbar-compiz uninstall it :D
[23:22] <ghostcube> or kicker keeps crashing
[23:22] <ghostcube> last suse i used was 6.0
[23:22] <ghostcube> :D
[23:22] <Ralesk> what the...
[23:22] <Ralesk> "You are not using a recent KDE version.  Since your bug is likely to be fixed already in more recent versions of KDE you can no longer submit bugs against your version of KDE."
[23:22] <Ralesk> this when I select 3.5.10 in bugs.kde.org
[23:22] <Ralesk> bummer
[23:23] <ghostcube> heh
[23:23] <dr_Willis> I thought all the new 3.5.X releases where to mainly be bug fix's in the first place.
[23:23] <mefisto__> I have 3.5.10 and didn't even know it
[23:23] <shamil> i used 10.3 opensuse, when i installed stuff like win32codecs in opensuse, i still couldn'tplay my wmv's:(
[23:23] <shamil> it did that a whole bunch of the time with me and other crap i installed in 10.3 suse, it was wierd:(
[23:23] <Ralesk> dr_Willis: well yeah...  trouble is, they broke quicklauncher (at least for me it looks broken) and kclockapplet
[23:24] <dr_Willis> Im not even suer what quicklauncher is.. :)  Ive been usng jwm+rox for my main desktop for months
[23:24] <Ralesk> ah :)
[23:24] <Ralesk> both are kicker applets
[23:25] <Ralesk> quicklauncher is... pretty much like Quick Launch in the Windows taskbar
[23:25] <dr_Willis> actually i am using quicklauncher. :)
[23:25] <dr_Willis> I just never noticed its name. :) i always  use it over the big icons
[23:25] <dr_Willis> heh.
[23:25] <shamil> kubuntu doesn't have the system tray applet to choose in the applet chooser for kicker:p
[23:25]  * dr_Willis wonders when the kde clock will get a simple 'show 12/24 hr time format' check box.. :)
[23:26] <Ralesk> change your locale :)
[23:26]  * dr_Willis repeates his original statement.. :)
[23:26] <dr_Willis> It may be i want 24 hr format in some  places.. but a 12 hr clock is fine. :)
[23:26] <Ralesk> yeah well, point
[23:27] <ghostcube> i want 24 all time
[23:27] <ghostcube> :|
[23:27] <ghostcube> heh
[23:27] <dr_Willis> plus it defaults to the 24 hr format.. which ive had to explain to way tooo many total computer beginners.. :)
[23:27] <dr_Willis> if its past noon.. add 12 .....
[23:27] <ghostcube> im german
[23:27] <ghostcube> :D
[23:27] <dr_Willis> or was it past midnight...
[23:27] <Ralesk> it baffles me that people can't understand 24 hours clock
[23:27] <shamil> 24 hour clocks rule
[23:28] <Ralesk> the 12 hours one is if anything, much more complicated
[23:28] <dr_Willis> we need a metric clock! with 10 hrs in a day
[23:28] <ghostcube> nah
[23:28] <Ralesk> heheh
[23:28] <ghostcube> u wont have this
[23:28] <ghostcube> we tested here in germany forget it
[23:28] <dr_Willis> Metric alphabet with 10 characters.
[23:28] <Ralesk> one deciletter
[23:29] <mefisto__> dr_Willis: I want a metric day with 100 hours. 10 hours is just not enough :)
[23:29] <Ralesk> decaletter even, whatever
[23:29] <dr_Willis> 100 sec per min.. and 100 min per hr...
[23:29] <dr_Willis> brb. gotta restart kde to get to .10
[23:29] <mefisto__> ancient egypt had 10 day weeks
[23:30] <gkffjcs_> i'm having trouble with nfs, I have an export on /home that looks like this "/home/ 192.168.*.*(rw,sync)
[23:30] <gkffjcs_> If i try an dmount it on a second machine I get
[23:30] <gkffjcs_> access denied by server while mounting
[23:30] <Ralesk> oh, hahahahahaha -- kde 3.5.9 is more recent than 3.5.10, according to bugzilla XD
[23:31] <Ralesk> faaaaail
[23:31] <ghostcube> bugzilla is counting error
[23:31] <ghostcube> 1 is smaller than 9
[23:31] <ghostcube> and 0 is new release eh ?
[23:31] <ghostcube> so its older :S
[23:32] <dr_Willis> Ok. kde 3.5.10 installed.. using compiz.. the issue was... err.. somthign to do with the previews on the taskbar?
[23:33] <ghostcube> dr_Willis: yes
[23:33] <dr_Willis> The previews for the Taskbar DOES work here..
[23:33] <ghostcube> hmmm
[23:33] <ghostcube> ok
[23:33] <dr_Willis> thats about the only compiz feature i like
[23:33] <ghostcube> :D
[23:33] <ghostcube> time for restart
[23:33] <dr_Willis> the quicklaunch thing is also working
[23:33] <ghostcube> hmm here it crashed and for all others too
[23:34] <ghostcube> if u use the original ione no probs
[23:34] <ghostcube> what compiz version are u runniong ?
[23:34] <vassili> #ubuntu-rus
[23:35] <vassili> ubuntu-ru
[23:35] <dr_Willis> !find emerald
[23:35] <vassili> #ubuntu-ru
[23:35] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. emerald reccomends emerald-themes.. which.. err.. dosent exist.
[23:35] <dr_Willis> :)
[23:35] <dr_Willis> Recommended packages:  emerald-themes
[23:35] <ghostcube> :D
[23:36] <Ralesk> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86222 *chuckles*  oh Aaron :)
[23:37] <dr_Willis> i also think that 'fusion-icon' tool should be included/started by default with compiz :)   but  i guess if you stick with their defaults ya may not need it.
[23:39] <ghostcube> dr_Willis: compiz --version
[23:39] <ghostcube> is this 0.7.4 ?
[23:39] <dr_Willis> well i dont seem to be having any issues with compiz and kde 3.5.10  lets check the version. I just updated/upgraded
[23:39] <dr_Willis> compiz 0.7.4
[23:39] <ghostcube> hmm ok im on 0.7.56
[23:39] <dr_Willis> using nvidia 8800gtsxxx video card
[23:39] <ghostcube> *6
[23:40] <ghostcube> with some additional plugs
[23:40] <ghostcube> anything kiled m prevs
[23:40] <ghostcube> :d
[23:43] <gkffjcs_> So I configured nfs based on several tuts on the inter web but it sitll doesn't work, dose anyone have any experience with nfs
[23:43] <gkffjcs_> ?
[23:43] <dr_Willis> gkffjcs_,  ive just followed the !nfs factoid page took me all of 3 min to get going btween 2 box's
[23:44] <gkffjcs_> !nfs
[23:44] <dr_Willis> if you are using the hostname. and static ip's you may want to chefk that your /etc/hosts file has each machines hostname/ip correct.
[23:44] <dr_Willis> or else use ip#'s
[23:44] <dr_Willis> I basically set it where each machine was mounted to each other machine in a /media/NFS/machinename directory
[23:45] <dr_Willis> or was it /NFS/machinename :) I need to reset that up someday
[23:52] <GLaDOS> 1
[23:52] <gkffjcs_> dr_Willis: I followed that tutorial aswell, and I still get "accss denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.152:/home"
[23:53] <gkffjcs_> I know the ip is correct, it is manually configured in interfaces, and I can ssh the ip with no problem
[23:53] <dr_Willis> check the nfs server logs..  its very likely a typo or other simple issue.
[23:53] <dr_Willis> or you dident isntall all the nfs packages on the machines
[23:53] <gkffjcs_> whre are the logs?
[23:54] <DarkriftX> how do i add myself to a group again?
[23:54] <dr_Willis> gkffjcs_,  /var/log is the normal place for all logs. You may need to configure the nfs server to enable more verbose logging
[23:57] <gkffjcs_> hmmm, there is no nfs in /var/log
[23:58] <dr_Willis> could be under some other name. check the nfs configs/docs perhaps. Im not using nfs at the moment. so cant check
[23:58] <dr_Willis> or logging is not enabled
[23:59] <dr_Willis> or its in that 'access' log file.. whatever it was called...
[23:59] <dr_Willis> auth.log perhaps