[04:44] <Haydn1> Is there anyone around that wants to help a complete noob?
[04:45] <PrivateVoid> I can try...
[04:46] <PrivateVoid> what is up?
[04:46] <Haydn1> Well I'm a CCNA student and am trying to break into the IT field of networking.
[04:47] <Haydn1> I'm wondering if setting up an Ubuntu Server with a spare computer would be educational
[04:47] <PrivateVoid> educational in what way?
[04:47] <Haydn1> I mean what are the limits of U Server at home
[04:48] <PrivateVoid> um... not really following what you mean...
[04:48] <Haydn1> I have an extra computer and all I do is run F@H on it and SSH into it.
[04:48] <PrivateVoid> I would assume given the right home network the limits of the Ubuntu server would be the same as any other place...
[04:48] <Haydn1> I am wondering if setting up U Server would provide me with some good IT experience
[04:48] <PrivateVoid> What kind of IT are you looking to get in too?
[04:49] <PrivateVoid> networking as in file servers or networking as in Cisco / HP Procurve kinda gear?
[04:49] <Haydn1> Cisco at this point
[04:50] <Haydn1> I'm studying for the CCNA right now.
[04:50] <PrivateVoid> To be honest then I am not sure if running an Ubuntu server would help with that at all...
[04:50] <PrivateVoid> Unless you setup a router / switch at home and made vlans
[04:50] <PrivateVoid> then looked at what different settings did when you connected to the file server...
[04:51] <Haydn1> Yeah I know it wont help in that area but... running a server would help me get acquainted with the OS
[04:51] <PrivateVoid> yes...
[04:51] <PrivateVoid> but the OS has little or nothing to do with switches and routers
[04:51] <Haydn1> Yeah I know... Sorry to throw that in the mix. I just wanted to establish a baseline of knowledge.
[04:52] <PrivateVoid> if you were doing one of the security Cisco certs it might help... you could run some VMs and take pokes at different services and OSes
[04:52] <PrivateVoid> Personally... if you want a good overview of servers...
[04:52] <PrivateVoid> download both Ubuntu Server (or Debian) and Windows Server 2008 and set both of them up
[04:53] <PrivateVoid> Windows server 2008 will allow 180 days of evaluation
[04:53] <PrivateVoid> which should be long enough to play with the OS
[04:53] <PrivateVoid> You are also far more likely to run in to that in the field
[04:53] <PrivateVoid> Ubuntu does have some interesting stuff... but it likely will not affect you in your CCNA
[04:54] <PrivateVoid> if you want to build some knowledge build a LAMP server -- first by selecting it in the build...
[04:54] <PrivateVoid> then try doing it manually.
[04:55] <Haydn1> LAMP?
[04:55] <PrivateVoid> Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP
[04:56] <Haydn1> Ah cool. So what is your involvement with U Server
[04:56] <PrivateVoid> Very little at the moment
[04:56] <PrivateVoid> may set one up soon though
[04:56] <PrivateVoid> I have focused on the desktop thus far...
[04:57] <PrivateVoid> I am a sys admin by day -- running Windows and OS X servers
[04:58] <Haydn1> Ah cool, did you get certified? And if so was that before or after getting a job?
[04:58] <PrivateVoid> my plan with Ubuntu server will be to learn how to run a file server, and directory server and the Apache/MySql combo
[04:58] <PrivateVoid> I have no certs
[04:59] <PrivateVoid> most people get them before they get hired...
[04:59] <PrivateVoid> unless they work for a training company or consultant
[04:59] <PrivateVoid> then they get them both before and after hiring
[04:59] <Haydn1> Ok I'm busting my ass off over here, I hope it pays off
[04:59] <PrivateVoid> where are you?
[05:00] <Haydn1> NC
[05:00] <PrivateVoid> Yeah... the CCNA and most Cisco certs are well respected unlike the Microsoft Certs
[05:00] <PrivateVoid> NC is a good area for tech... much better than where I am
[05:00] <PrivateVoid> I might actually try to move to NC
[05:00] <Haydn1> LOL, where you at?
[05:00] <PrivateVoid> Western NY
[05:01] <Haydn1> Huh, that is surprizing. I have a friend that runs a web hosting in NYC just to be on the east coast backbone
[05:02] <PrivateVoid> NYC is not Western NY
[05:02] <PrivateVoid> that is a few hundred miles from me
[05:02] <Haydn1> No I know. I'm from CT so...
[05:02] <PrivateVoid> and NYC drains the rest of the state of money
[05:02] <PrivateVoid> cool...
[05:02] <Haydn1> I just moved to NC a couple months ago
[05:02] <Haydn1> Are you out by Buffalo
[05:03] <PrivateVoid> I have a few friends down in NC and they are all very happy with the area... they are in the Chapel Hill area
[05:03] <PrivateVoid> Not Buffalo... Rochester
[05:03] <Haydn1> Yeah that's a really nice area of the state
[05:03] <PrivateVoid> Yeah... its nice... but it is going through some really tough economic times...
[05:03] <Haydn1> Ok got cha
[05:04] <PrivateVoid> the major companies are all suffering
[05:04] <Haydn1> I think everyone is
[05:04] <PrivateVoid> Kodak, Xerox, etc.
[05:04] <PrivateVoid> Well... some areas are more resistant too it
[05:04] <Haydn1> True
[05:04] <PrivateVoid> Syracuse lost its major employers in the 80s
[05:04] <Haydn1> Where do your friends work down here
[05:04] <Haydn1> Who was that?
[05:04] <PrivateVoid> so economic down turns seem to affect it less than Rochester
[05:04] <PrivateVoid> they work for the state
[05:05] <PrivateVoid> Syracuse Lost Carrier, GM, and Lockheed Martin
[05:06] <haydn1> Sorry about that xchat crashed
[05:07] <haydn1> Well it was good talking to you. Take care.
[06:58] <osmosis> how do I assign two IPs to a single nic?
[06:59] <fromport> edit /etc/network/interfaces and use eth0:[number eg 1] for the next ip adress
[07:07] <dbouls_>  Hey, I'm looking for some suggestions for a ubuntu box in my geek frat house http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5692225#post5692225 Check it out and ANY suggestions would be greatly appreciated for my little project
[11:52] <alexcf> 20
[14:25]  * delcoyote hi
[16:58] <nxvl> kirkland: around?
[16:58] <nxvl> kirkland: i have a problem with EPD
[16:58] <nxvl> kirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/41905/
[16:58] <nxvl> kirkland: i'm nut sure if it's a bug or that the wiki is now well described
[16:59] <nxvl> or out-dated
[17:26] <adammw111> Hi, what's the quickest way to install ALSA?
[17:30] <azteech> if it wasn't installed at time of install, "sudo apt-get install alsa" should do it, or do it from synaptic
[17:34] <adammw111> thanks..
[17:35] <azteech> adammw11: yw
[20:42] <darkscrypt> i'm trying to create a ftpd that has a default directory of /var/www
[20:42] <darkscrypt> and files are uploaded as user httpd-data
[20:42] <darkscrypt> that way it is a root access to the website
[20:42] <darkscrypt> any ideas, suggestions, or places to look
[20:42] <darkscrypt> i'm at a complete loss
[20:45] <darkscrypt> i need a ftp user that is dedicated to /var/www
[21:08] <ScottK> Would adduser --home do what you need (see man adduser for details)?
[21:33] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[21:33] <SpaceBass> since upgrading to Heardy server, my ldap authenticated user can no long sudo ... its like its not recognizing the network group in the sudoers list
[21:52] <okaratas> hello channel
[22:57] <ErikWestrup> How do I get the current time from the terminal?
[23:04] <SpaceBass> time
[23:05] <SpaceBass> oops ... its date
[23:05] <SpaceBass> since upgrading to Heardy server, my ldap authenticated user can no long sudo ... its like its not recognizing the network group in the sudoers list...anyone know why that might be?