[07:51] <TimStarling_> why are there so few debug symbol packages?
[07:51] <TimStarling_> are we meant to make our own?
[07:54] <wgrant> TimStarling_: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[07:54] <TimStarling_> thanks
[12:03] <asac> fta_: can you ask for review and landing an such for the upstream bug (realpath=
[14:43] <fta> top is acting strangely with the new kernel.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/42162/
[15:14] <\sh> hmmm directfb is manual dep wait because of tslib..but tslib is universe...and directfb is main...is there a MIR ?
[17:35] <pecisk> cdimages.ubuntu.com down?
[17:36] <Adri2000> pecisk: works here
[17:38] <persia> pecisk: I've heard of difficulties from others.  There are three IP addresses behind that name: you might try to get your local resolver to try a different one.
[17:39] <pecisk> persia: how can I find those IPs?
[17:40] <_MMA_> persia: Working fine again here. (for the moment)
[17:41] <dmoerner> pecisk, it's not working for me either, and i keep hitting chromium.canonical.com (91.189.88.39)
[17:41] <pecisk> yep
[17:41] <pecisk> the same here
[17:42] <dmoerner> pecisk, try beryllium.canonical.com
[17:44] <pecisk> dmoerner: thanks, it worked
[20:21] <NCommander> roughly speaking, what would it take to get Canonical to invest in allowing a port of Ubuntu?
[20:28] <_MMA_> NCommander: What do you mean bu "port" and "allow"?
[20:28] <_MMA_> *by
[20:28] <_MMA_> port=derivative?
[20:28] <NCommander> port as in ubuntu-powerpc, ubuntu-hppa, etc.
[20:28] <NCommander> The port port :-)
[20:28] <_MMA_> Ahh...
[20:29] <_MMA_> So "allow"?
[20:29] <NCommander> er
[20:29] <_MMA_> There's nothing really stopping someone from building a disk.
[20:29] <NCommander> To get it hosted on ubuntu-ports at the very least
[20:29] <_MMA_> If thats what you want.
[20:29] <NCommander> The problem is that only sourceful uploads are allowed
[20:29] <_MMA_> Ahh... Hosting. More to the point. :)
[20:30] <NCommander> Wlel, I've been told any port of Ubuntu unless allowed by Canonical can't bear the name Ubuntu
[20:30] <NCommander> (its somewhere in the trademark legal goop, not interested in finding it ATM)
[20:30] <NCommander> which of course makes sense
[20:30] <_MMA_> Yet more details. :)
[20:30] <NCommander> I know an Ubuntu armel port is in progress
[20:30] <geser> in which port are you interested?
[20:30] <NCommander> mips
[20:30] <_MMA_> Yes. Anything you want to call "Ubuntu*" and hosting would need permission/help.
[20:31] <NCommander> And maybe m68k-coldfire once freescale cleans up the toolchain
[20:31] <NCommander> (m68k-coldfire is different from regular m68k :-P)
[20:31] <_MMA_> NCommander: As far as disk hosting, I think resources are short. Do we have repos for mips?
[20:32] <NCommander> No, not yet, I'm not actually going to do any porting until I find out more specifics first
[20:32] <NCommander> My mips board is 133Mhz
[20:32] <NCommander> Way too slow to do it
[20:32] <NCommander> (although I have built GCC on it before ....)
[20:32] <_MMA_> NCommander: It really might take you doing it yourself 1st.
[20:32] <NCommander> Of course, I know that
[20:33] <NCommander> I'd personally want an armel port, but I'm already told its in progress
[20:33] <NCommander> But I figure if armel getting done, once I have a faster MIPS box, I might want to do a Ubuntu port on it
[20:33] <_MMA_> Maybe a question for the tech-board?
[20:34] <_MMA_> Well, this is more a Canonical issue.
[20:34] <NCommander> Yeah
[20:34] <_MMA_> (line it too blurry sometimes IMO)
[20:34] <NCommander> I'm not so worried about the trademark, I won't remind naming the port
[20:34] <_MMA_> s/it/is
[20:34] <NCommander> But I'd like to see it on Ubuntu-ports if it got off the gorund
[20:34] <NCommander> But to do that, Launchpad needs to host the autobuilders
[20:36] <elmo> NCommander: err, no it doesn't?
[20:36] <NCommander> Every port on ubuntu-ports handles buildd management through launchpad
[20:37] <NCommander> I was under the impression canonical had to host the autobuilders themselves
[20:37] <elmo> obviously, handling buildds through launchpad is the preferred way of doing things, but it's certainly not the only way
[20:37] <NCommander> Right, wanna-build/buildd/etc works fine against Ubuntu
[20:38]  * NCommander has run the former on amd64
[20:41] <NCommander> Who's in charge of handling the Ubuntu-ports?
[20:41] <NCommander> s/-//g
[21:56] <woli> i
[21:56] <woli> hi-
[21:56] <woli> is there a tutorial on making panel-embeded aplications?
[22:02] <Chipzz> woli: incorrect channel; please read topic
[22:47] <philwyett> If any moderators of the ubuntu-devel list are in the house. Could you bump a few messages through please? I am already up to 3 awaiting being thrown back at me. :-D
[22:48] <philwyett> Evening all by the way. ;-)
[23:14] <cjwatson> philwyett: the content of two of your mails appears to be entirely quotation of other people's text. Is this accurate or is it the moderation interface lying to me?
[23:15] <cjwatson> philwyett: if it's just the moderation interface cutting it off, OK, but please consider trimming your quotes to a more reasonable level; usually you should only quote the specific bit you're replying to
[23:19] <philwyett> cjwatson: I did not trim the originals no and additional content is always at the bottom. I shall trim other words down in future.
[23:25] <cjwatson> philwyett: in this case the length means I'm unable to review the additional content, which makes me uncomfortable about moderating it. Could you please resend with trimmed quotes?
[23:26] <wgrant> Why is apport-gtk telling me that my copy of Ubuntu isn't genuine?
[23:27] <philwyett> cjwatson: Yes I will resend trimmed. A bug should be filed about the restrictive moderation interface also. ;-)
[23:33] <philwyett> cjwatson: Resent trimmed down. Thanks for moderating these for me.
[23:43] <cjwatson> philwyett: done, thanks for the resend
[23:44] <philwyett> cjwatson: No problem. Many thanks.