=== LucidFox is now known as LucidFox_WoW [07:51] why are there so few debug symbol packages? [07:51] are we meant to make our own? [07:54] TimStarling_: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [07:54] thanks === Igorots is now known as Igorot === RainCT is now known as RainCT_ === Kmos_ is now known as Kmos [12:03] fta_: can you ask for review and landing an such for the upstream bug (realpath= === fta_ is now known as fta === Kopfi|offline is now known as Kopfgeldjaeger === asac_ is now known as asac [14:43] top is acting strangely with the new kernel.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/42162/ === Kopfgeldjaeger is now known as Kopfi|offline [15:14] <\sh> hmmm directfb is manual dep wait because of tslib..but tslib is universe...and directfb is main...is there a MIR ? === Kopfi|offline is now known as Kopfgeldjaeger === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === warp10_ is now known as warp10 [17:35] cdimages.ubuntu.com down? [17:36] pecisk: works here [17:38] pecisk: I've heard of difficulties from others. There are three IP addresses behind that name: you might try to get your local resolver to try a different one. [17:39] persia: how can I find those IPs? [17:40] <_MMA_> persia: Working fine again here. (for the moment) [17:41] pecisk, it's not working for me either, and i keep hitting chromium.canonical.com (91.189.88.39) [17:41] yep [17:41] the same here [17:42] pecisk, try beryllium.canonical.com [17:44] dmoerner: thanks, it worked === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl === Zic_ is now known as Zic [20:21] roughly speaking, what would it take to get Canonical to invest in allowing a port of Ubuntu? [20:28] <_MMA_> NCommander: What do you mean bu "port" and "allow"? [20:28] <_MMA_> *by [20:28] <_MMA_> port=derivative? [20:28] port as in ubuntu-powerpc, ubuntu-hppa, etc. [20:28] The port port :-) [20:28] <_MMA_> Ahh... [20:29] <_MMA_> So "allow"? [20:29] er [20:29] <_MMA_> There's nothing really stopping someone from building a disk. [20:29] To get it hosted on ubuntu-ports at the very least [20:29] <_MMA_> If thats what you want. [20:29] The problem is that only sourceful uploads are allowed [20:29] <_MMA_> Ahh... Hosting. More to the point. :) [20:30] Wlel, I've been told any port of Ubuntu unless allowed by Canonical can't bear the name Ubuntu [20:30] (its somewhere in the trademark legal goop, not interested in finding it ATM) [20:30] which of course makes sense [20:30] <_MMA_> Yet more details. :) [20:30] I know an Ubuntu armel port is in progress [20:30] in which port are you interested? [20:30] mips [20:30] <_MMA_> Yes. Anything you want to call "Ubuntu*" and hosting would need permission/help. [20:31] And maybe m68k-coldfire once freescale cleans up the toolchain [20:31] (m68k-coldfire is different from regular m68k :-P) [20:31] <_MMA_> NCommander: As far as disk hosting, I think resources are short. Do we have repos for mips? [20:32] No, not yet, I'm not actually going to do any porting until I find out more specifics first [20:32] My mips board is 133Mhz [20:32] Way too slow to do it [20:32] (although I have built GCC on it before ....) [20:32] <_MMA_> NCommander: It really might take you doing it yourself 1st. [20:32] Of course, I know that [20:33] I'd personally want an armel port, but I'm already told its in progress [20:33] But I figure if armel getting done, once I have a faster MIPS box, I might want to do a Ubuntu port on it [20:33] <_MMA_> Maybe a question for the tech-board? [20:34] <_MMA_> Well, this is more a Canonical issue. [20:34] Yeah [20:34] <_MMA_> (line it too blurry sometimes IMO) [20:34] I'm not so worried about the trademark, I won't remind naming the port [20:34] <_MMA_> s/it/is [20:34] But I'd like to see it on Ubuntu-ports if it got off the gorund [20:34] But to do that, Launchpad needs to host the autobuilders [20:36] NCommander: err, no it doesn't? [20:36] Every port on ubuntu-ports handles buildd management through launchpad [20:37] I was under the impression canonical had to host the autobuilders themselves [20:37] obviously, handling buildds through launchpad is the preferred way of doing things, but it's certainly not the only way [20:37] Right, wanna-build/buildd/etc works fine against Ubuntu [20:38] * NCommander has run the former on amd64 [20:41] Who's in charge of handling the Ubuntu-ports? [20:41] s/-//g [21:56] i [21:56] hi- [21:56] is there a tutorial on making panel-embeded aplications? [22:02] woli: incorrect channel; please read topic === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [22:47] If any moderators of the ubuntu-devel list are in the house. Could you bump a few messages through please? I am already up to 3 awaiting being thrown back at me. :-D [22:48] Evening all by the way. ;-) [23:14] philwyett: the content of two of your mails appears to be entirely quotation of other people's text. Is this accurate or is it the moderation interface lying to me? [23:15] philwyett: if it's just the moderation interface cutting it off, OK, but please consider trimming your quotes to a more reasonable level; usually you should only quote the specific bit you're replying to [23:19] cjwatson: I did not trim the originals no and additional content is always at the bottom. I shall trim other words down in future. [23:25] philwyett: in this case the length means I'm unable to review the additional content, which makes me uncomfortable about moderating it. Could you please resend with trimmed quotes? [23:26] Why is apport-gtk telling me that my copy of Ubuntu isn't genuine? [23:27] cjwatson: Yes I will resend trimmed. A bug should be filed about the restrictive moderation interface also. ;-) [23:33] cjwatson: Resent trimmed down. Thanks for moderating these for me. [23:43] philwyett: done, thanks for the resend [23:44] cjwatson: No problem. Many thanks. === Kopfgeldjaeger is now known as Kopfi|offline