/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/08/31/#ubuntu-ops.txt

FlannelWeeeee00:36
Seeker`Pici fails00:36
Myrttihe does00:41
Myrttiepicly00:41
naliothhopefully, he will not give "War and Peace" a run for it's money00:42
elkbuntupoor pici00:53
* Myrtti huggles everyone00:53
Myrttiwubs you all, take care, see you on the other side of my dreams00:54
naliothsleep well, Myrtti00:54
* elkbuntu huggles Myrtti goodnight00:58
ubottuIn ubottu, buahhaha said: my script is full of entries like this: cp "/media/sda4/mp3sall/mp3/A-Ha - Love Is Reason.mp3" /home/mj/copymp3sanddeletethen01:21
FlannelchanbotX approved?01:23
elkbuntucan someone remove 'ubuntu' from the exploit quarantine?01:26
jribelkbuntu: does that require more than removing the ban?  ie do will the bots be confused?01:26
elkbuntuyes01:26
Flanneljust log on with an ubuntu nick and get tested01:27
Flannelright?01:27
elkbuntuthere is a less manual way, but that works01:27
jribso USERNAME is just a troll right?01:31
FlannelI'm... pretty sure, yeah.01:32
Flannelbut, waiting for a few more offtopic comments first01:32
elkbuntuself-extinguishing troll. my favourite type01:32
Mezok, it's strange, but I just got a service credit for 1/4 of my normal server bill for reccomending someone, and i have no idea who they are, or where I reccomended them01:33
FlannelI think he thinks if he joins and leaves occassionally, we wont notice its him ad he can get a few oddball comments in01:33
elkbuntuFlannel, my thought too01:34
* Flannel wonders if wols embodies unops nick occassionally.01:36
Flannelso, KevinO, chanbot(2|3), ]01:36
Flannelit... may be a bot?01:37
elkbuntuFlannel, whois it01:37
FlannelMmm, chanbot3 was signed on to the account "chanbot"01:38
Flanneland, check the cloak too01:38
elkbuntukevino is a bot though01:38
FlannelI was pretty sure it was a bot, is it an allowed bot?01:39
elkbuntudoubted01:39
FlannelI assumed, but wanted to at least ask someone else.01:39
elkbuntuFlannel, oh, and as for unop, he's from #debian ... just like wols. seeing a theme here?01:40
Flannelmakes sense.01:40
Mez* chanbot2 :No such nick/channel * chanbot3 :No such nick/channel * Kevin0 :No such nick/channel * chanbot3 :No such nick/channel * kevino :No such nick/channel01:43
FlannelMez: you're so... 6, 5, 4, 3 minutes ago (or whatever the times were)01:44
FlannelBut, he's apparently not a bot, just setting up ana lternative nick, and forgot he was in channels01:44
FlannelEh... and apparently giving me flack in #u01:44
Flannelmaybe that's the bot talking.01:45
Flannelsomeone else want to poke him in a PM, see if he responds in channel?01:45
Flannelas in, responds in an automated manner.01:46
naliothit's a user01:46
FlannelI... believe you now.  Although a few minutes ago, not so much.01:47
Flannelnickspamming anyway.  And not very friendly about it at that.01:47
naliothhe's been in #freenode, trying to setup the account01:47
Flannelnalioth: Whats with the bot cloak then?01:48
Flannelis this an alternative nick for a bot then?01:48
naliothyes, he was setting it up for his bot01:48
FlannelSounds good.  Reminding him we don't allow bots in #ubuntu shouldn't have gotten such a horrid response in the channel though.01:49
DimitrovHello is there any reason that an ubuntu op should pm me messages instead of just adressing me in the channel directly.01:54
elkbuntuDimitrov, yes, unless you want 1200 people to also suspect you're breaking rules.01:55
Dimitrovelkbuntu, i thought that was the way it was generally handled.01:55
Dimitrovand i was breaking no rules.01:56
elkbuntuDimitrov, your cloak suggests otherwise, and the last thing we want is 1200 actual bots in the channel 'because he gets to'01:56
Dimitrovelkbuntu, my cloak is old. i have dropped the chanbot nick. and i was in the process of getting a new one when i was pm's by ubuntu op01:57
elkbuntusometimes you need to accept that we do things the way we do because we are experienced enough to know it's the safest way01:58
Dimitrovthe only thing i was doing was changing my nick to find a suitable one. I do not need Ubuntu ops pm'ing me. they have always sent me messages in the channel, and i dont see why this time should be any different01:58
naliothDimitrov: i've informed them of your intentions.  perhaps you should leave populated channels next time you plan on a bunch of nick changes . . .01:59
Dimitrovnalioth, thanks, i informed them from the get go thats what happened. I thought i was being pm'ed by a freenode staffer02:00
FlannelHeaven forbid I keep it discrete.02:02
elkbuntui've no idea if my coments got through, since my bip decided to start ignoring my connection02:04
Flannelelkbuntu: We got... cloak suggests otherwise, and sometimes you need to accept02:05
elkbuntuthat's all there was02:05
elkbuntucool02:05
FlannelI guess I'll just have to spam factoids in the future (might I add, which also send PMs)02:05
elkbuntugkffjcs_, did you read the topic of #ubuntu-read-topic?02:07
gkffjcs_I cannot join #ubuntu, it says I'm vonerable to some sort of attack, the sit that it links too says to change your port to 8001, which I have done, yet I still cannot connect to #ubuntu, it also says it might be a problem with my router, I can connect to #ubuntu on several other machines on the subnet behind my nat.02:07
elkbuntugkffjcs_, you're in quarantine still. you need to get yourself tested. read all the instructions in there02:08
gkffjcs_ps, why can I connect to #kubuntu, and #kubuntu-kde4?02:08
elkbuntubecause they dont quarantine affected users02:09
elkbuntugkffjcs_, did you re-read the instructions in the topic yet?02:09
gkffjcs_got it working!02:12
elkbuntuamazing how reading *all* the instructions helps, hey ;)02:12
elkbuntuif you have no further issues, we do prefer this channel be kept clear so we know who needs help02:13
gkffjcs_Thanks for the attitude.................02:14
elkbuntuo.O02:14
* Flannel wonders if everyone has a chip on their shoulder today.02:15
elkbuntui think so02:15
elkbuntui think i was supposed to apologise and/or cheer for his inability to read instructions, and newfound ability to do so.02:17
FlannelMaybe you should have simple reminded him to read the entire topic02:18
ubottuSeaPhor called the ops in #ubuntu (Jacob_Laptop)05:21
Flannelelkbuntu: Since when do hawks eat bugs?08:08
MyrttiFlannel: er, since there has been small hawks?08:12
FlannelInteresting.  Kites eat mainly insects.  I always thought it was critters.08:15
Myrttilinky?08:17
Flannelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_of_prey08:18
FlannelKites, under types08:18
FlannelI always thought they hovered looking for mice and stuff.08:18
elkbuntuFlannel, as someone who's actually cared for injured wildlife, some will eat anything that moves and can fit down their throat. it can be a bit of chopped meat wiggling in front of them for all they care08:19
elkbuntuthe fun part is keeping your fingertips08:19
Myrttiyup08:19
Flannelelkbuntu: Most animals do, but thats not really the point08:21
Flannels/do/will/08:21
elkbuntualthough, having fuzzies is always ideal, a bit of chopped roadkill is just as good.08:21
* Myrtti grunts and gets up from the bed08:23
jpds!postfix11:04
ubottupostfix is the default !MTA and !MDA on Ubuntu. For help, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto - See also !MailServer11:04
jpdsikonia: *sigh*11:15
ikonia?11:15
ikoniathe school kid ?11:15
jpdsYeah.11:15
ikoniaI know, I know11:15
LjLare you aware of any widely used irc clients, aside from irssi i guess, where clicking on a posted channel name *doesn't* make you join the channel?12:00
jpdsweechat12:02
stdinxchat12:02
LjLxchat doesn't do that?12:02
LjLpff12:02
jpds-EJUSTSTOPUSINGKONVERSATION :p12:02
LjLkonversation does it, no problem there12:02
stdinit shows them as a link, but doesn't do anything on click (only right-click menu)12:02
LjLi'm thinking we should change the !language factoids so we don't have to keep explaining how to join *after* giving them12:03
LjLbut putting a dozen /join's in them breaks them somehow12:03
LjLright click might work although it's a bit more involved (but konversation can also work with right click, what about weechat jpds?)12:04
jpdsNo idea, I use irssi.12:04
LjLah12:04
LjLeven if you radically change all the factoids so they say "type: /join #blah", that's still obscure to a good percentage of people, as it seems awkward to them that they'd have to type that in the channel window12:05
LjLclicking on a "link" on the other hand is someone everyone is pretty accustomed to (although they apparently still don't do it unless they're told)12:06
LjL!irc12:07
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines12:07
Myrttithat should include a short guide to irc12:07
LjLif you know of one that's decent12:08
LjL xchat-gnome, lostirc, loqui, pidgin  —  KDE  client: konversation, ksirc, kopete, kvirc  —  client: xchat  —  console  client: irssi, weechat12:09
LjLany others?12:09
Myrttichatzilla12:09
LjLMyrtti: that's the one embedded in netscape?12:10
LjLseamonkey-chatzilla yeah12:10
LjLargh it's not in bestbot's package db, i guess i have to update it12:11
LjLjust someone tell me about xchat-gnome and pigdin, i'll try the others, but i don't want to get gnome installed on me12:14
ompaulxchat-gnome is rubbish compared to xchat au natural12:15
LjLompaul: ok but does it open channels when you click on them12:16
ompaulyes12:16
LjLalright12:16
ompaulunfortunately you have to have it open first ;-)12:16
LjLerr?12:16
ompaul the -gnome thing is just horrible12:17
LjLah...12:17
Myrttiit sucks.12:17
LjLwell i don't care, but people use it12:17
ompaulin fact horrible is too soft a phrase12:17
LjL*especially* people who might not know how to join channels12:17
Myrttithe sad thing is, as of hardy, it was the only dedicated irc client in main12:17
ompaulLjL, better to advocate xchat12:17
LjLweechat and irssi, i somehow doubt it12:17
Myrttidepends on terminal12:17
ompaulMyrtti, and main is not the only thing that comes in repos12:17
Myrttianymore...12:18
LjLompaul: it's not a matter of advocating, read above, i'm trying to make the "!language | nickname, <nickname> ok but how do i join???" thing stop12:18
ompaulack12:18
LjLand putting /join in every factoid is not it12:18
ompaulLjL, sorry was off at the feeding house12:18
ompaulactually houses12:18
ompaulit was fun12:18
Myrtticoffee!12:18
* Myrtti hugs her pink moka pot12:19
LjLnow i wonder how i make kopete join irc12:19
LjLand why my kicker, *which allegedly was just fixed a lot*, just crashed12:19
Myrtti*bwurp*12:19
Myrttinom.12:19
ompaulbtw there is a fun thread on my local lug which has to do with my passion for awarding pints of beer for things done in a geek fashion12:20
ompaulyou could choose water if you wanted or soft drink of choice also12:20
Myrttisure - I've just not had any coffee in about two days12:20
LjL... arcnet.vapor.com?12:20
Myrttiah - sorry12:20
Myrttino coffee12:20
LjLthat's the network that kopete joins by default?12:20
Myrttime no brain12:20
ompaulwell providing the emporium actually serves it12:21
LjLare the irc client packages in ubuntu striving to keep #ubuntu and #kubuntu at low traffic levels...?12:21
ompaulLjL, that could be a plan12:22
LjLompaul: well it's not a plan as it's implemented already... i think i've yet to see a package that joins freenode *and* #ubuntu by default aside from konversation12:23
LjLalthough admittedly i've hardly tried them all12:23
ompaulLjL, xchat12:23
LjLit does? i thought it didn't last time i used it12:23
LjLah wait12:23
jpdsirssi still has irc.ubuntu.com's default port as 666712:23
LjLexcept xchat isn't installed by default12:23
ompauljpds, fix pleads12:23
Myrttioh for christ sake, I hate clients that autojoin a network and a channel by default12:23
ompaulMyrtti, so we need two versions12:24
LjLMyrtti: alright, then make them join *none*, but if one has to be joined and/or pre-selected, make it freenode and #ubuntu, no?12:24
Nafalloxchat-auto?12:24
ompaulMyrtti, you can also with xchat choose freenode and sit there doing nothing12:24
LjLMyrtti: also, for the clients that are installed by default, they really should12:24
Myrttihhhrrrhh12:24
ompaulNafallo, xchat-shreik?12:24
* ompaul hides12:24
LjLgetting to the IRC channels for support shouldn't be a matter of hard configuring12:24
MyrttiLjL: no sane person uses pidgin for IRC...12:24
LjLyou should just have to click the IRC icon12:24
Nafalloompaul: you fail at spelling12:24
ompaulMyrtti, gnome12:24
LjLMyrtti: except all the very sane people who join for support12:24
Myrttisince pidgin hasn't got any of the irc specific plugins installed by default12:25
LjLyou aren't forgetting #ubuntu is not for IRC geeks but for people who're seeking ubuntu support, no?12:25
ompaulMyrtti, it is a point we need to haxor gnome12:25
ompaulNafallo, you is korrect (the kde version of correct just kooler)12:25
LjLoh quit it that was old when you were young12:26
ompaulLjL, :)12:26
Myrttiyou're just bunch of old, grumpy, non-Fins.12:26
MyrttiFinns12:26
LjLperkele!12:27
Myrttikippis, said she, and gulped coffee.12:27
ompaulNafallo, I give you an extra eye and you throw it away - what are we do to with you, banna dig så hårt ?12:28
ompaul;-)12:28
Myrttiompaul: NAUGHTY!12:28
LjLja, röj upp våran kanal!12:28
ompaulMyrtti, I am too12:28
Myrttium.12:29
ompaulJag vill berätta för dig, att jag känner en bott12:29
Myrttijust a thought12:29
ompaulMyrtti, maybe not that naughty12:29
Myrttisince the floodbots do such a good work with mibbit12:29
* ompaul buys Nafallo a coffee12:29
Myrttidoes mibbit support linkyclicks?12:29
LjLMyrtti: believe so, couldn't swear on it12:30
LjLwill try12:30
LjLMyrtti: yes12:32
Myrttijust a thought then12:33
MyrttiI know that floodbots can watch over only one channel at a time12:33
Myrttibut what if - and this is just me speaking aloud my idea12:33
LjLyes, they're pretty hard-coded that way12:33
Myrttiwhat if #kubuntu were given their own set of floodbots - and a link to mibbit and a guide how to join #kubuntu and #ubuntu with it were put someplace?12:34
Myrttithat way - linkyclicks would work - people wouldn't have to install clients they'll hardly ever use again etc.12:35
LjLMyrtti: perhaps, but can't possibly mibbit just be allowed in #kubuntu? is there enough traffic that it'd likely be a problem?12:35
jpdsompaul: bug #263259 filed.12:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 263259 in irssi "Change irssi's irc.ubuntu.com default port to 8001." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26325912:35
MyrttiI don't know12:35
Nafallomeeh12:35
Nafallohaven't slept yet!12:35
* Myrtti slaps Nafallo 12:35
* Myrtti points bed12:35
Myrtti:->12:36
LjLMyrtti: for that matter, it probably doesn't need a new set of bots, as that specific feature can likely be hacked in for #kubuntu without the rest of the features being in place12:36
NafalloMyrtti: taking to lovely girl12:36
NafalloMyrtti: so no.12:36
LjLMyrtti: of course though, if a need is felt for the whole floodbot shebang in #k, it could be done. i've already got a bot in #ubuntu-it, it can't be any harder than that (no translations to be done for a start)12:37
LjLbut i'm not sure they'd be all thrilled by the enter-muting, for a start...12:37
MyrttiI don't know about the need for them in #k so I don't know12:37
Myrttibut the autoban mibbit users for flooding...12:37
* Myrtti shrugs12:38
Myrttionly a thought12:38
LjLwait, autoban mibbit users for flooding? i'm not following you now12:38
Myrtti@bansearch numbers12:38
ubottuNo matches found for numbers!*@* in any channel12:38
Myrtti@btlogin12:38
LjLMyrtti: in any case, the #kubuntu mibbit behavior is broken, as it points to #ubuntu-proxy-users too, and then the bot says you can try again joining #ubuntu, which is not what you had joined in the first place12:39
LjLso that should be fixed one way or another12:39
* LjL doesn't feel like installing chatzilla...12:40
* Myrtti wants more coffee12:40
LjLit's part of a web browser, dammit, it has to support channel links12:40
LjL#channel12:40
Myrttiit does12:41
LjL-KsIRCksirc - no12:41
MyrttiI think12:41
Myrttiwas one of the first ones that did it12:41
Myrttiwell, atleast it supports irc://#ubuntu or something12:41
LjL-Kopetekopete - treats as link, but doesn't join anything12:42
Myrttikonversation?12:42
LjLkonversation does12:42
Myrttiok12:42
LjL-LostIRClostirc - no12:42
MyrttiI always thought you were a gnome user, but no matter12:42
LjLme? never.12:42
jribweechat!12:42
LjL-Xchatxchat - right click12:43
LjL-KvIRCkvirc - yes12:43
LjLjrib, if you're using weechat, you know how to join a channel to begin with12:43
LjLi guess i should try chatzilla, there's plenty of people using it, sigh12:44
LjLactually, i guess i'll do something non-orthodox12:44
jribuh oh12:45
LjLidiot, i forgot that /quit doesn't wait for server queue in konv12:52
LjLwell i've added instructions to right-click for !it, let's just see how that works out for now12:58
LjL!it12:58
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)12:58
ompaulhow do you spell timeout13:38
* ompaul grins13:38
LjLompaul: tango india mike echo oscar uniform tango13:39
ompaulroger13:40
Myrttipee aa äs äs ii ään gee  ooo uu tee, hm?13:41
Myrtti:-þ13:41
LjLMyrtti: it's disconnections we're talking about, not fatalities...13:41
Myrttibut, it is a timeout of sorts13:42
Myrttihaving too much Bass and fall asleep under the table13:42
LjLand conversely, disconnecting is always a bit like dying13:42
Dave2Big Mouth Billy Bass?13:43
* Myrtti larts Dave2 13:46
Myrttihttp://www.bass.com/13:46
Dave2Damn, I forgot to hit enter on "/me flees to go and cook some breakfast"13:46
MyrttiFAIL13:47
ompaulDaviey, you about?14:38
elkbuntuLjL, how to remove or whitelist 'ubuntu' from the floodbots exploit quarantine?15:14
Davieyompaul: o/15:16
ompaulDaviey, ding pm15:16
Davieyk15:16
LjLelkbuntu, can't whitelist, but you can remove the ban, who cares about it staying in the quarantine...15:17
elkbuntuLjL, right. how?15:18
elkbuntui dont have a floodbot drivers licence yet15:18
LjLelkbuntu: how...? you just remove the ban on him15:18
LjLwhich is not there in the first place, hopefully15:19
elkbuntuok, so it wont mess the bots up?15:19
LjLelkbuntu: nah, they'll just keep mentioning him in -read-topic, but again who cares15:19
LjLthey'll stop after two weeks anyway15:20
elkbuntuah ok15:20
elkbuntusee, i didnt even know this15:20
LjLelkbuntu: if someone doesn't join -proxy-users for two weeks, their quarantine times out15:20
LjLelkbuntu: so all that will happen is that you'll see a floodbot doing a redundant -b ubuntu!*@* in two weeks15:21
elkbuntufair enough15:21
elkbuntunow that they're all gatekeepers?15:22
LjLelkbuntu: generally speaking, when unsure, do as if the floodbots didn't exist, as that's the failsafe rule i tried to keep in mind15:22
LjLelkbuntu: gatekeepers?15:22
LjLelkbuntu: wait, i kept mentioning -proxy-users but it's -read-topic i'm talking about15:22
elkbuntuLjL, they can all do everything the same now though?15:23
elkbuntuit's not just floodbot1 we have to keep opped?15:23
LjLelkbuntu: yes (they always did, except for the -proxy-users [this time i have it right] thing, which was because last time the other two bots were updated, that feature was considered unsafe)15:23
LjLelkbuntu: except that floodbot1 is the only one that talks in some situations15:24
elkbuntuaha. so we still need to favour it?15:24
LjLelkbuntu: no, they're all equal in #ubuntu, it's only about secondary things like some debug messages in -monitor, and the message to people in -proxy-users, and such15:25
LjLall instances where it doesn't matter which bot is opped in #u15:25
elkbuntuk, cool15:25
Myrttiubuntu has been on the victim list for well over two weeks15:27
LjLelkbuntu: the only thing is that now if all bots happen to be opped at the same time when someone joins proxy-users, they'll spam three +e's rather than just one15:27
elkbuntuMyrtti, because it keeps getting hit, i assume15:28
elkbuntuor siphoned into the channel15:28
LjLor because it doesn't just look for people in -read-topic, but also people in #ubuntu... in which case, that's not right15:28
LjLuhm but no, it does only trigger when the quarantine channel is joined...15:30
elkbuntuanyway, it's well past my bedtime. i wake in 6hrs.15:31
elkbuntucyas15:31
LjLnight15:31
Myrttitata15:33
LjLthat's completely not right, i don't have an "ubuntu" joining -read-topic since february15:33
LjLoooh it's when they quit irc15:36
LjLhmm now why had i put that there?15:36
LjLrandom idea for floodbots gimmick - monitoring ubuntu.com, help., packages., archive. and any other important sites for downtime, and putting any in the topic15:50
ompaultopic them15:53
ompaulhmm15:53
ompaul !bottopic foo etc15:53
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:53
ompaul:)15:53
jriband then can we have them yell READ THE TOPIC if someone asks whether one of those sites is up?15:54
LjLjrib: sure!15:54
* Myrtti huggles Mez16:13
Myrttiwb16:13
* Mez huggles back16:13
Mezty16:13
MezI had to reboot ym server... forgot to start ctrlproxy agian16:13
Myrttihm, true, I should reboot my home server16:14
bazhangoi16:19
Myrttiwhut16:22
bazhang-br user wanting to say 'oi' to us all16:23
LjLthis nifty chanserv stack, topicappend and topicprepend, it doesn't have a pop operation as well....?16:23
Myrttiuf16:24
Myrttidamn I need to vacuum more often here16:24
Myrttihad to reconnect the headless homeserver to a keyboard and display so I can type the encryption passwords >__<16:25
MezKFM switch?16:27
Myrttiwhy bother16:28
MezKVM *16:30
MyrttiI had 70 days uptime16:34
Myrttiwoo.16:34
PriceChildubottu: sound16:48
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP316:48
* Myrtti cries16:54
Myrttihe is sweet, but OH so annoying16:54
bazhangminus the sweet16:54
* Myrtti screams16:55
MyrttiMY BRAIN HURTS16:56
MyrttiI see idiocy in three languages. the PAIN16:58
bazhangwhy will no one read any links :(17:03
jpdsMy brains hurts too, python-launchpadlib is more broken than Hurd17:04
* jpds looks at #kubuntu.17:21
* Myrtti refuses to look at #ubuntu-offtopic17:23
bazhangmehmet in #k looks like trouble17:25
jpdsbazhang: Some people are just clueless.17:26
bazhanghe is not clueless.17:31
bazhangasmajala is our old friend manuelperez17:45
jpdsbazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/42204/17:49
bazhangjpds, he can speak english, and is already in ubuntu-es; we had this trouble last week in #u and #k with him.17:51
ompaulbazhang, white_eagle had a ban before iirc18:04
bazhanghe did indeed ompaul both in #u and -ot18:04
ompaulmy memories are not good18:04
* ompaul goes back to working on SFD18:05
bazhanghe left me with some bad ones too18:05
ompaulI asked the domain squatter what did they want for softwarefreedomday.com and they said 500 US I thought I can do a lot more for Free Software with 500 than give it to a squatter18:47
ompaulso I more or less told them 50 USD or no deal but they have to work that out18:47
ompaulthey are paying 6-10 dollars a year18:48
ompaulfor it18:48
ompaulso let them pay18:48
ubottuGnea called the ops in #ubuntu (FineGirl1)18:53
Myrttiomg I've not had this much fun watching an IRC channel for a long long time19:01
Myrttitoo bad very few of you can share the fun19:01
Myrttiheated discussion about oil prices and energy and traveling expenses going at -se :-D19:01
Myrttigreat fun19:02
Myrttiis Azamat a bot?19:58
FlannelNot yet19:58
* Myrtti tests19:58
Myrttihe is not, but is trying something that I'm not too happy about20:00
FlannelTrying to get ops in channel?20:02
Myrttieither that or alerting us20:02
ubottuCpudan80 called the ops in #ubuntu (Azamat)20:05
Flannelpsh20:05
Flannelso trigger happy when not necessary20:05
Myrttimute would've sufficed20:05
MyrttiI think20:05
Myrttitalking of which20:05
FlannelMyrtti: kick to show him we mean business, he's not troublesome enough with enough frequency for a mute to be effective without it being around for a while20:08
Myrtti@btlogin20:09
Myrttiwth20:10
Myrttilumm!?=*@*.servergirl.net!#ubuntu-ops  on #ubuntu-offtopic in Bantracker...20:10
Myrttibut not in /bans20:10
FlannelFloodbots missed the unban then20:11
Flannelor, something else fun.20:11
Flannelif you set it -b it should be good enough for FB, and wont hurt the channel20:11
* Myrtti pokes Nafallo with https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nordic/+members20:34
ikonia@bansearch necrolancer20:36
ubottuNo matches found for necrolancer!*@* in any channel20:36
LjLwhat does floodbot have to do with unbans...?20:44
FlannelLjL: I meant ubottu, go away :P20:44
MyrttiSHUUUNN20:45
FlannelThat does explain why "floodbot" was so awkward to type20:45
Myrttishun the non believer20:45
LjLand talking about trigger happiness...20:45
MyrttiPOIT!20:45
MyrttiNNNARF!20:46
LjLMyrtti: too much coffee again?20:46
Myrttiyup20:46
LjLi see20:46
Myrttiand bored to pieces20:46
Myrttibut emacs is full of love20:47
LjLwell, i'll fix that by going get a cuba libre20:47
LjLemacs is not all there is to life20:47
LjLseriously20:47
Myrttibut it does my python so nicely20:49
* Myrtti sips her strawberry milk and enjoys ♥ 21:26
Dave2enjoying heart, eh?21:49
Myrttiyours om nom nom21:49
Dave2...</23 minutes late>21:49
Dave2Mine's defective, I wouldn't eat it.21:49
Dave2That, and one of the valves isn't even mine.21:49
Myrttibut the strawberry milk was delish21:50
Flannelsigh wols.22:34
Myrtti!pida22:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pida22:51
Myrtti!info pida22:51
ubottupida (source: pida): Python Integrated Development Application, a Python IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-2 (hardy), package size 416 kB, installed size 3024 kB22:51
MyrttiMez: ^22:51
FlannelMyrtti: -ot might use your lovely presence22:54
MyrttiFlannel: who should I shoot?22:56
FlannelMyrtti: HS would be the one22:57
MezMyrtti, try Komodo Edit.. manual install, but VERY nice IDE22:58
MyrttiMez: but PIDA is full of emacs/vim goodness!22:59
Mezso is komodo... it uses things that feel like emacs shortcuts anyways23:00
MyrttiMez: but pida *has* emacs in it.23:00
Myrtti(and is this a silly discussion or what?)23:01
* Myrtti blinks23:01
Mez^K ^G for example...23:01
Mez(goto definition)23:01
Mez#(most useful feature ever)23:01
Myrttisee!23:05
Myrttiemacs wins23:05
Myrttiidiot totally distracted from racist bull at -ot with the power of emacs!23:06
MyrttiWIN!23:06
Flanneleh, hes still being stupid though.23:07
Flannelalthough, I supppose less-offensive stupidity23:07
Flannelsigh.23:07
Flannellooks like forums get to deal with him now23:07
* Myrtti laughs out loud23:09
Myrttioh dear23:09
Myrttithat was funny23:11
ompaulwatch white_eagle if he comes back to #ubuntu23:20
ompaulcheers23:20

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