[00:36] <Flannel> Weeeee
[00:36] <Seeker`> Pici fails
[00:41] <Myrtti> he does
[00:41] <Myrtti> epicly
[00:42] <nalioth> hopefully, he will not give "War and Peace" a run for it's money
[00:53] <elkbuntu> poor pici
[00:53]  * Myrtti huggles everyone
[00:54] <Myrtti> wubs you all, take care, see you on the other side of my dreams
[00:54] <nalioth> sleep well, Myrtti
[00:58]  * elkbuntu huggles Myrtti goodnight
[01:23] <Flannel> chanbotX approved?
[01:26] <elkbuntu> can someone remove 'ubuntu' from the exploit quarantine?
[01:26] <jrib> elkbuntu: does that require more than removing the ban?  ie do will the bots be confused?
[01:26] <elkbuntu> yes
[01:27] <Flannel> just log on with an ubuntu nick and get tested
[01:27] <Flannel> right?
[01:27] <elkbuntu> there is a less manual way, but that works
[01:31] <jrib> so USERNAME is just a troll right?
[01:32] <Flannel> I'm... pretty sure, yeah.
[01:32] <Flannel> but, waiting for a few more offtopic comments first
[01:32] <elkbuntu> self-extinguishing troll. my favourite type
[01:33] <Mez> ok, it's strange, but I just got a service credit for 1/4 of my normal server bill for reccomending someone, and i have no idea who they are, or where I reccomended them
[01:33] <Flannel> I think he thinks if he joins and leaves occassionally, we wont notice its him ad he can get a few oddball comments in
[01:34] <elkbuntu> Flannel, my thought too
[01:36]  * Flannel wonders if wols embodies unops nick occassionally.
[01:36] <Flannel> so, KevinO, chanbot(2|3), ]
[01:37] <Flannel> it... may be a bot?
[01:37] <elkbuntu> Flannel, whois it
[01:38] <Flannel> Mmm, chanbot3 was signed on to the account "chanbot"
[01:38] <Flannel> and, check the cloak too
[01:38] <elkbuntu> kevino is a bot though
[01:39] <Flannel> I was pretty sure it was a bot, is it an allowed bot?
[01:39] <elkbuntu> doubted
[01:39] <Flannel> I assumed, but wanted to at least ask someone else.
[01:40] <elkbuntu> Flannel, oh, and as for unop, he's from #debian ... just like wols. seeing a theme here?
[01:40] <Flannel> makes sense.
[01:43] <Mez> * chanbot2 :No such nick/channel * chanbot3 :No such nick/channel * Kevin0 :No such nick/channel * chanbot3 :No such nick/channel * kevino :No such nick/channel
[01:44] <Flannel> Mez: you're so... 6, 5, 4, 3 minutes ago (or whatever the times were)
[01:44] <Flannel> But, he's apparently not a bot, just setting up ana lternative nick, and forgot he was in channels
[01:44] <Flannel> Eh... and apparently giving me flack in #u
[01:45] <Flannel> maybe that's the bot talking.
[01:45] <Flannel> someone else want to poke him in a PM, see if he responds in channel?
[01:46] <Flannel> as in, responds in an automated manner.
[01:46] <nalioth> it's a user
[01:47] <Flannel> I... believe you now.  Although a few minutes ago, not so much.
[01:47] <Flannel> nickspamming anyway.  And not very friendly about it at that.
[01:47] <nalioth> he's been in #freenode, trying to setup the account
[01:48] <Flannel> nalioth: Whats with the bot cloak then?
[01:48] <Flannel> is this an alternative nick for a bot then?
[01:48] <nalioth> yes, he was setting it up for his bot
[01:49] <Flannel> Sounds good.  Reminding him we don't allow bots in #ubuntu shouldn't have gotten such a horrid response in the channel though.
[01:54] <Dimitrov> Hello is there any reason that an ubuntu op should pm me messages instead of just adressing me in the channel directly.
[01:55] <elkbuntu> Dimitrov, yes, unless you want 1200 people to also suspect you're breaking rules.
[01:55] <Dimitrov> elkbuntu, i thought that was the way it was generally handled.
[01:56] <Dimitrov> and i was breaking no rules.
[01:56] <elkbuntu> Dimitrov, your cloak suggests otherwise, and the last thing we want is 1200 actual bots in the channel 'because he gets to'
[01:57] <Dimitrov> elkbuntu, my cloak is old. i have dropped the chanbot nick. and i was in the process of getting a new one when i was pm's by ubuntu op
[01:58] <elkbuntu> sometimes you need to accept that we do things the way we do because we are experienced enough to know it's the safest way
[01:58] <Dimitrov> the only thing i was doing was changing my nick to find a suitable one. I do not need Ubuntu ops pm'ing me. they have always sent me messages in the channel, and i dont see why this time should be any different
[01:59] <nalioth> Dimitrov: i've informed them of your intentions.  perhaps you should leave populated channels next time you plan on a bunch of nick changes . . .
[02:00] <Dimitrov> nalioth, thanks, i informed them from the get go thats what happened. I thought i was being pm'ed by a freenode staffer
[02:02] <Flannel> Heaven forbid I keep it discrete.
[02:04] <elkbuntu> i've no idea if my coments got through, since my bip decided to start ignoring my connection
[02:05] <Flannel> elkbuntu: We got... cloak suggests otherwise, and sometimes you need to accept
[02:05] <elkbuntu> that's all there was
[02:05] <elkbuntu> cool
[02:05] <Flannel> I guess I'll just have to spam factoids in the future (might I add, which also send PMs)
[02:07] <elkbuntu> gkffjcs_, did you read the topic of #ubuntu-read-topic?
[02:07] <gkffjcs_> I cannot join #ubuntu, it says I'm vonerable to some sort of attack, the sit that it links too says to change your port to 8001, which I have done, yet I still cannot connect to #ubuntu, it also says it might be a problem with my router, I can connect to #ubuntu on several other machines on the subnet behind my nat.
[02:08] <elkbuntu> gkffjcs_, you're in quarantine still. you need to get yourself tested. read all the instructions in there
[02:08] <gkffjcs_> ps, why can I connect to #kubuntu, and #kubuntu-kde4?
[02:09] <elkbuntu> because they dont quarantine affected users
[02:09] <elkbuntu> gkffjcs_, did you re-read the instructions in the topic yet?
[02:12] <gkffjcs_> got it working!
[02:12] <elkbuntu> amazing how reading *all* the instructions helps, hey ;)
[02:13] <elkbuntu> if you have no further issues, we do prefer this channel be kept clear so we know who needs help
[02:14] <gkffjcs_> Thanks for the attitude.................
[02:14] <elkbuntu> o.O
[02:15]  * Flannel wonders if everyone has a chip on their shoulder today.
[02:15] <elkbuntu> i think so
[02:17] <elkbuntu> i think i was supposed to apologise and/or cheer for his inability to read instructions, and newfound ability to do so.
[02:18] <Flannel> Maybe you should have simple reminded him to read the entire topic
[08:08] <Flannel> elkbuntu: Since when do hawks eat bugs?
[08:12] <Myrtti> Flannel: er, since there has been small hawks?
[08:15] <Flannel> Interesting.  Kites eat mainly insects.  I always thought it was critters.
[08:17] <Myrtti> linky?
[08:18] <Flannel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_of_prey
[08:18] <Flannel> Kites, under types
[08:18] <Flannel> I always thought they hovered looking for mice and stuff.
[08:19] <elkbuntu> Flannel, as someone who's actually cared for injured wildlife, some will eat anything that moves and can fit down their throat. it can be a bit of chopped meat wiggling in front of them for all they care
[08:19] <elkbuntu> the fun part is keeping your fingertips
[08:19] <Myrtti> yup
[08:21] <Flannel> elkbuntu: Most animals do, but thats not really the point
[08:21] <Flannel> s/do/will/
[08:21] <elkbuntu> although, having fuzzies is always ideal, a bit of chopped roadkill is just as good.
[08:23]  * Myrtti grunts and gets up from the bed
[11:04] <jpds> !postfix
[11:15] <jpds> ikonia: *sigh*
[11:15] <ikonia> ?
[11:15] <ikonia> the school kid ?
[11:15] <jpds> Yeah.
[11:15] <ikonia> I know, I know
[12:00] <LjL> are you aware of any widely used irc clients, aside from irssi i guess, where clicking on a posted channel name *doesn't* make you join the channel?
[12:02] <jpds> weechat
[12:02] <stdin> xchat
[12:02] <LjL> xchat doesn't do that?
[12:02] <LjL> pff
[12:02] <jpds> -EJUSTSTOPUSINGKONVERSATION :p
[12:02] <LjL> konversation does it, no problem there
[12:02] <stdin> it shows them as a link, but doesn't do anything on click (only right-click menu)
[12:03] <LjL> i'm thinking we should change the !language factoids so we don't have to keep explaining how to join *after* giving them
[12:03] <LjL> but putting a dozen /join's in them breaks them somehow
[12:04] <LjL> right click might work although it's a bit more involved (but konversation can also work with right click, what about weechat jpds?)
[12:04] <jpds> No idea, I use irssi.
[12:04] <LjL> ah
[12:05] <LjL> even if you radically change all the factoids so they say "type: /join #blah", that's still obscure to a good percentage of people, as it seems awkward to them that they'd have to type that in the channel window
[12:06] <LjL> clicking on a "link" on the other hand is someone everyone is pretty accustomed to (although they apparently still don't do it unless they're told)
[12:07] <LjL> !irc
[12:07] <Myrtti> that should include a short guide to irc
[12:08] <LjL> if you know of one that's decent
[12:09] <LjL>  xchat-gnome, lostirc, loqui, pidgin  —  KDE  client: konversation, ksirc, kopete, kvirc  —  client: xchat  —  console  client: irssi, weechat
[12:09] <LjL> any others?
[12:09] <Myrtti> chatzilla
[12:10] <LjL> Myrtti: that's the one embedded in netscape?
[12:10] <LjL> seamonkey-chatzilla yeah
[12:11] <LjL> argh it's not in bestbot's package db, i guess i have to update it
[12:14] <LjL> just someone tell me about xchat-gnome and pigdin, i'll try the others, but i don't want to get gnome installed on me
[12:15] <ompaul> xchat-gnome is rubbish compared to xchat au natural
[12:16] <LjL> ompaul: ok but does it open channels when you click on them
[12:16] <ompaul> yes
[12:16] <LjL> alright
[12:16] <ompaul> unfortunately you have to have it open first ;-)
[12:16] <LjL> err?
[12:17] <ompaul>  the -gnome thing is just horrible
[12:17] <LjL> ah...
[12:17] <Myrtti> it sucks.
[12:17] <LjL> well i don't care, but people use it
[12:17] <ompaul> in fact horrible is too soft a phrase
[12:17] <LjL> *especially* people who might not know how to join channels
[12:17] <Myrtti> the sad thing is, as of hardy, it was the only dedicated irc client in main
[12:17] <ompaul> LjL, better to advocate xchat
[12:17] <LjL> weechat and irssi, i somehow doubt it
[12:17] <Myrtti> depends on terminal
[12:17] <ompaul> Myrtti, and main is not the only thing that comes in repos
[12:18] <Myrtti> anymore...
[12:18] <LjL> ompaul: it's not a matter of advocating, read above, i'm trying to make the "!language | nickname, <nickname> ok but how do i join???" thing stop
[12:18] <ompaul> ack
[12:18] <LjL> and putting /join in every factoid is not it
[12:18] <ompaul> LjL, sorry was off at the feeding house
[12:18] <ompaul> actually houses
[12:18] <ompaul> it was fun
[12:18] <Myrtti> coffee!
[12:19]  * Myrtti hugs her pink moka pot
[12:19] <LjL> now i wonder how i make kopete join irc
[12:19] <LjL> and why my kicker, *which allegedly was just fixed a lot*, just crashed
[12:19] <Myrtti> *bwurp*
[12:19] <Myrtti> nom.
[12:20] <ompaul> btw there is a fun thread on my local lug which has to do with my passion for awarding pints of beer for things done in a geek fashion
[12:20] <ompaul> you could choose water if you wanted or soft drink of choice also
[12:20] <Myrtti> sure - I've just not had any coffee in about two days
[12:20] <LjL> ... arcnet.vapor.com?
[12:20] <Myrtti> ah - sorry
[12:20] <Myrtti> no coffee
[12:20] <LjL> that's the network that kopete joins by default?
[12:20] <Myrtti> me no brain
[12:21] <ompaul> well providing the emporium actually serves it
[12:21] <LjL> are the irc client packages in ubuntu striving to keep #ubuntu and #kubuntu at low traffic levels...?
[12:22] <ompaul> LjL, that could be a plan
[12:23] <LjL> ompaul: well it's not a plan as it's implemented already... i think i've yet to see a package that joins freenode *and* #ubuntu by default aside from konversation
[12:23] <LjL> although admittedly i've hardly tried them all
[12:23] <ompaul> LjL, xchat
[12:23] <LjL> it does? i thought it didn't last time i used it
[12:23] <LjL> ah wait
[12:23] <jpds> irssi still has irc.ubuntu.com's default port as 6667
[12:23] <LjL> except xchat isn't installed by default
[12:23] <ompaul> jpds, fix pleads
[12:23] <Myrtti> oh for christ sake, I hate clients that autojoin a network and a channel by default
[12:24] <ompaul> Myrtti, so we need two versions
[12:24] <LjL> Myrtti: alright, then make them join *none*, but if one has to be joined and/or pre-selected, make it freenode and #ubuntu, no?
[12:24] <Nafallo> xchat-auto?
[12:24] <ompaul> Myrtti, you can also with xchat choose freenode and sit there doing nothing
[12:24] <LjL> Myrtti: also, for the clients that are installed by default, they really should
[12:24] <Myrtti> hhhrrrhh
[12:24] <ompaul> Nafallo, xchat-shreik?
[12:24]  * ompaul hides
[12:24] <LjL> getting to the IRC channels for support shouldn't be a matter of hard configuring
[12:24] <Myrtti> LjL: no sane person uses pidgin for IRC...
[12:24] <LjL> you should just have to click the IRC icon
[12:24] <Nafallo> ompaul: you fail at spelling
[12:24] <ompaul> Myrtti, gnome
[12:24] <LjL> Myrtti: except all the very sane people who join for support
[12:25] <Myrtti> since pidgin hasn't got any of the irc specific plugins installed by default
[12:25] <LjL> you aren't forgetting #ubuntu is not for IRC geeks but for people who're seeking ubuntu support, no?
[12:25] <ompaul> Myrtti, it is a point we need to haxor gnome
[12:25] <ompaul> Nafallo, you is korrect (the kde version of correct just kooler)
[12:26] <LjL> oh quit it that was old when you were young
[12:26] <ompaul> LjL, :)
[12:26] <Myrtti> you're just bunch of old, grumpy, non-Fins.
[12:26] <Myrtti> Finns
[12:27] <LjL> perkele!
[12:27] <Myrtti> kippis, said she, and gulped coffee.
[12:28] <ompaul> Nafallo, I give you an extra eye and you throw it away - what are we do to with you, banna dig så hårt ?
[12:28] <ompaul> ;-)
[12:28] <Myrtti> ompaul: NAUGHTY!
[12:28] <LjL> ja, röj upp våran kanal!
[12:28] <ompaul> Myrtti, I am too
[12:29] <Myrtti> um.
[12:29] <ompaul> Jag vill berätta för dig, att jag känner en bott
[12:29] <Myrtti> just a thought
[12:29] <ompaul> Myrtti, maybe not that naughty
[12:29] <Myrtti> since the floodbots do such a good work with mibbit
[12:29]  * ompaul buys Nafallo a coffee
[12:29] <Myrtti> does mibbit support linkyclicks?
[12:30] <LjL> Myrtti: believe so, couldn't swear on it
[12:30] <LjL> will try
[12:32] <LjL> Myrtti: yes
[12:33] <Myrtti> just a thought then
[12:33] <Myrtti> I know that floodbots can watch over only one channel at a time
[12:33] <Myrtti> but what if - and this is just me speaking aloud my idea
[12:33] <LjL> yes, they're pretty hard-coded that way
[12:34] <Myrtti> what if #kubuntu were given their own set of floodbots - and a link to mibbit and a guide how to join #kubuntu and #ubuntu with it were put someplace?
[12:35] <Myrtti> that way - linkyclicks would work - people wouldn't have to install clients they'll hardly ever use again etc.
[12:35] <LjL> Myrtti: perhaps, but can't possibly mibbit just be allowed in #kubuntu? is there enough traffic that it'd likely be a problem?
[12:35] <jpds> ompaul: bug #263259 filed.
[12:35] <Myrtti> I don't know
[12:35] <Nafallo> meeh
[12:35] <Nafallo> haven't slept yet!
[12:35]  * Myrtti slaps Nafallo 
[12:35]  * Myrtti points bed
[12:36] <Myrtti> :->
[12:36] <LjL> Myrtti: for that matter, it probably doesn't need a new set of bots, as that specific feature can likely be hacked in for #kubuntu without the rest of the features being in place
[12:36] <Nafallo> Myrtti: taking to lovely girl
[12:36] <Nafallo> Myrtti: so no.
[12:37] <LjL> Myrtti: of course though, if a need is felt for the whole floodbot shebang in #k, it could be done. i've already got a bot in #ubuntu-it, it can't be any harder than that (no translations to be done for a start)
[12:37] <LjL> but i'm not sure they'd be all thrilled by the enter-muting, for a start...
[12:37] <Myrtti> I don't know about the need for them in #k so I don't know
[12:37] <Myrtti> but the autoban mibbit users for flooding...
[12:38]  * Myrtti shrugs
[12:38] <Myrtti> only a thought
[12:38] <LjL> wait, autoban mibbit users for flooding? i'm not following you now
[12:38] <Myrtti> @bansearch numbers
[12:38] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[12:39] <LjL> Myrtti: in any case, the #kubuntu mibbit behavior is broken, as it points to #ubuntu-proxy-users too, and then the bot says you can try again joining #ubuntu, which is not what you had joined in the first place
[12:39] <LjL> so that should be fixed one way or another
[12:40]  * LjL doesn't feel like installing chatzilla...
[12:40]  * Myrtti wants more coffee
[12:40] <LjL> it's part of a web browser, dammit, it has to support channel links
[12:40] <LjL> #channel
[12:41] <Myrtti> it does
[12:41] <LjL-KsIRC> ksirc - no
[12:41] <Myrtti> I think
[12:41] <Myrtti> was one of the first ones that did it
[12:41] <Myrtti> well, atleast it supports irc://#ubuntu or something
[12:42] <LjL-Kopete> kopete - treats as link, but doesn't join anything
[12:42] <Myrtti> konversation?
[12:42] <LjL> konversation does
[12:42] <Myrtti> ok
[12:42] <LjL-LostIRC> lostirc - no
[12:42] <Myrtti> I always thought you were a gnome user, but no matter
[12:42] <LjL> me? never.
[12:42] <jrib> weechat!
[12:43] <LjL-Xchat> xchat - right click
[12:43] <LjL-KvIRC> kvirc - yes
[12:43] <LjL> jrib, if you're using weechat, you know how to join a channel to begin with
[12:44] <LjL> i guess i should try chatzilla, there's plenty of people using it, sigh
[12:44] <LjL> actually, i guess i'll do something non-orthodox
[12:45] <jrib> uh oh
[12:52] <LjL> idiot, i forgot that /quit doesn't wait for server queue in konv
[12:58] <LjL> well i've added instructions to right-click for !it, let's just see how that works out for now
[12:58] <LjL> !it
[13:38] <ompaul> how do you spell timeout
[13:38]  * ompaul grins
[13:39] <LjL> ompaul: tango india mike echo oscar uniform tango
[13:40] <ompaul> roger
[13:41] <Myrtti> pee aa äs äs ii ään gee  ooo uu tee, hm?
[13:41] <Myrtti> :-þ
[13:41] <LjL> Myrtti: it's disconnections we're talking about, not fatalities...
[13:42] <Myrtti> but, it is a timeout of sorts
[13:42] <Myrtti> having too much Bass and fall asleep under the table
[13:42] <LjL> and conversely, disconnecting is always a bit like dying
[13:43] <Dave2> Big Mouth Billy Bass?
[13:46]  * Myrtti larts Dave2 
[13:46] <Myrtti> http://www.bass.com/
[13:46] <Dave2> Damn, I forgot to hit enter on "/me flees to go and cook some breakfast"
[13:47] <Myrtti> FAIL
[14:38] <ompaul> Daviey, you about?
[15:14] <elkbuntu> LjL, how to remove or whitelist 'ubuntu' from the floodbots exploit quarantine?
[15:16] <Daviey> ompaul: o/
[15:16] <ompaul> Daviey, ding pm
[15:16] <Daviey> k
[15:17] <LjL> elkbuntu, can't whitelist, but you can remove the ban, who cares about it staying in the quarantine...
[15:18] <elkbuntu> LjL, right. how?
[15:18] <elkbuntu> i dont have a floodbot drivers licence yet
[15:18] <LjL> elkbuntu: how...? you just remove the ban on him
[15:19] <LjL> which is not there in the first place, hopefully
[15:19] <elkbuntu> ok, so it wont mess the bots up?
[15:19] <LjL> elkbuntu: nah, they'll just keep mentioning him in -read-topic, but again who cares
[15:20] <LjL> they'll stop after two weeks anyway
[15:20] <elkbuntu> ah ok
[15:20] <elkbuntu> see, i didnt even know this
[15:20] <LjL> elkbuntu: if someone doesn't join -proxy-users for two weeks, their quarantine times out
[15:21] <LjL> elkbuntu: so all that will happen is that you'll see a floodbot doing a redundant -b ubuntu!*@* in two weeks
[15:21] <elkbuntu> fair enough
[15:22] <elkbuntu> now that they're all gatekeepers?
[15:22] <LjL> elkbuntu: generally speaking, when unsure, do as if the floodbots didn't exist, as that's the failsafe rule i tried to keep in mind
[15:22] <LjL> elkbuntu: gatekeepers?
[15:22] <LjL> elkbuntu: wait, i kept mentioning -proxy-users but it's -read-topic i'm talking about
[15:23] <elkbuntu> LjL, they can all do everything the same now though?
[15:23] <elkbuntu> it's not just floodbot1 we have to keep opped?
[15:23] <LjL> elkbuntu: yes (they always did, except for the -proxy-users [this time i have it right] thing, which was because last time the other two bots were updated, that feature was considered unsafe)
[15:24] <LjL> elkbuntu: except that floodbot1 is the only one that talks in some situations
[15:24] <elkbuntu> aha. so we still need to favour it?
[15:25] <LjL> elkbuntu: no, they're all equal in #ubuntu, it's only about secondary things like some debug messages in -monitor, and the message to people in -proxy-users, and such
[15:25] <LjL> all instances where it doesn't matter which bot is opped in #u
[15:25] <elkbuntu> k, cool
[15:27] <Myrtti> ubuntu has been on the victim list for well over two weeks
[15:27] <LjL> elkbuntu: the only thing is that now if all bots happen to be opped at the same time when someone joins proxy-users, they'll spam three +e's rather than just one
[15:28] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, because it keeps getting hit, i assume
[15:28] <elkbuntu> or siphoned into the channel
[15:28] <LjL> or because it doesn't just look for people in -read-topic, but also people in #ubuntu... in which case, that's not right
[15:30] <LjL> uhm but no, it does only trigger when the quarantine channel is joined...
[15:31] <elkbuntu> anyway, it's well past my bedtime. i wake in 6hrs.
[15:31] <elkbuntu> cyas
[15:31] <LjL> night
[15:33] <Myrtti> tata
[15:33] <LjL> that's completely not right, i don't have an "ubuntu" joining -read-topic since february
[15:36] <LjL> oooh it's when they quit irc
[15:36] <LjL> hmm now why had i put that there?
[15:50] <LjL> random idea for floodbots gimmick - monitoring ubuntu.com, help., packages., archive. and any other important sites for downtime, and putting any in the topic
[15:53] <ompaul> topic them
[15:53] <ompaul> hmm
[15:53] <ompaul>  !bottopic foo etc
[15:53] <ompaul> :)
[15:54] <jrib> and then can we have them yell READ THE TOPIC if someone asks whether one of those sites is up?
[15:54] <LjL> jrib: sure!
[16:13]  * Myrtti huggles Mez
[16:13] <Myrtti> wb
[16:13]  * Mez huggles back
[16:13] <Mez> ty
[16:13] <Mez> I had to reboot ym server... forgot to start ctrlproxy agian
[16:14] <Myrtti> hm, true, I should reboot my home server
[16:19] <bazhang> oi
[16:22] <Myrtti> whut
[16:23] <bazhang> -br user wanting to say 'oi' to us all
[16:23] <LjL> this nifty chanserv stack, topicappend and topicprepend, it doesn't have a pop operation as well....?
[16:24] <Myrtti> uf
[16:24] <Myrtti> damn I need to vacuum more often here
[16:25] <Myrtti> had to reconnect the headless homeserver to a keyboard and display so I can type the encryption passwords >__<
[16:27] <Mez> KFM switch?
[16:28] <Myrtti> why bother
[16:30] <Mez> KVM *
[16:34] <Myrtti> I had 70 days uptime
[16:34] <Myrtti> woo.
[16:48] <PriceChild> ubottu: sound
[16:54]  * Myrtti cries
[16:54] <Myrtti> he is sweet, but OH so annoying
[16:54] <bazhang> minus the sweet
[16:55]  * Myrtti screams
[16:56] <Myrtti> MY BRAIN HURTS
[16:58] <Myrtti> I see idiocy in three languages. the PAIN
[17:03] <bazhang> why will no one read any links :(
[17:04] <jpds> My brains hurts too, python-launchpadlib is more broken than Hurd
[17:21]  * jpds looks at #kubuntu.
[17:23]  * Myrtti refuses to look at #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:25] <bazhang> mehmet in #k looks like trouble
[17:26] <jpds> bazhang: Some people are just clueless.
[17:31] <bazhang> he is not clueless.
[17:45] <bazhang> asmajala is our old friend manuelperez
[17:49] <jpds> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/42204/
[17:51] <bazhang> jpds, he can speak english, and is already in ubuntu-es; we had this trouble last week in #u and #k with him.
[18:04] <ompaul> bazhang, white_eagle had a ban before iirc
[18:04] <bazhang> he did indeed ompaul both in #u and -ot
[18:04] <ompaul> my memories are not good
[18:05]  * ompaul goes back to working on SFD
[18:05] <bazhang> he left me with some bad ones too
[18:47] <ompaul> I asked the domain squatter what did they want for softwarefreedomday.com and they said 500 US I thought I can do a lot more for Free Software with 500 than give it to a squatter
[18:47] <ompaul> so I more or less told them 50 USD or no deal but they have to work that out
[18:48] <ompaul> they are paying 6-10 dollars a year
[18:48] <ompaul> for it
[18:48] <ompaul> so let them pay
[19:01] <Myrtti> omg I've not had this much fun watching an IRC channel for a long long time
[19:01] <Myrtti> too bad very few of you can share the fun
[19:01] <Myrtti> heated discussion about oil prices and energy and traveling expenses going at -se :-D
[19:02] <Myrtti> great fun
[19:58] <Myrtti> is Azamat a bot?
[19:58] <Flannel> Not yet
[19:58]  * Myrtti tests
[20:00] <Myrtti> he is not, but is trying something that I'm not too happy about
[20:02] <Flannel> Trying to get ops in channel?
[20:02] <Myrtti> either that or alerting us
[20:05] <Flannel> psh
[20:05] <Flannel> so trigger happy when not necessary
[20:05] <Myrtti> mute would've sufficed
[20:05] <Myrtti> I think
[20:05] <Myrtti> talking of which
[20:08] <Flannel> Myrtti: kick to show him we mean business, he's not troublesome enough with enough frequency for a mute to be effective without it being around for a while
[20:09] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[20:10] <Myrtti> wth
[20:10] <Myrtti> lumm!?=*@*.servergirl.net!#ubuntu-ops  on #ubuntu-offtopic in Bantracker...
[20:10] <Myrtti> but not in /bans
[20:11] <Flannel> Floodbots missed the unban then
[20:11] <Flannel> or, something else fun.
[20:11] <Flannel> if you set it -b it should be good enough for FB, and wont hurt the channel
[20:34]  * Myrtti pokes Nafallo with https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nordic/+members
[20:36] <ikonia> @bansearch necrolancer
[20:44] <LjL> what does floodbot have to do with unbans...?
[20:44] <Flannel> LjL: I meant ubottu, go away :P
[20:45] <Myrtti> SHUUUNN
[20:45] <Flannel> That does explain why "floodbot" was so awkward to type
[20:45] <Myrtti> shun the non believer
[20:45] <LjL> and talking about trigger happiness...
[20:45] <Myrtti> POIT!
[20:46] <Myrtti> NNNARF!
[20:46] <LjL> Myrtti: too much coffee again?
[20:46] <Myrtti> yup
[20:46] <LjL> i see
[20:46] <Myrtti> and bored to pieces
[20:47] <Myrtti> but emacs is full of love
[20:47] <LjL> well, i'll fix that by going get a cuba libre
[20:47] <LjL> emacs is not all there is to life
[20:47] <LjL> seriously
[20:49] <Myrtti> but it does my python so nicely
[21:26]  * Myrtti sips her strawberry milk and enjoys ♥ 
[21:49] <Dave2> enjoying heart, eh?
[21:49] <Myrtti> yours om nom nom
[21:49] <Dave2> ...</23 minutes late>
[21:49] <Dave2> Mine's defective, I wouldn't eat it.
[21:49] <Dave2> That, and one of the valves isn't even mine.
[21:50] <Myrtti> but the strawberry milk was delish
[22:34] <Flannel> sigh wols.
[22:51] <Myrtti> !pida
[22:51] <Myrtti> !info pida
[22:51] <Myrtti> Mez: ^
[22:54] <Flannel> Myrtti: -ot might use your lovely presence
[22:56] <Myrtti> Flannel: who should I shoot?
[22:57] <Flannel> Myrtti: HS would be the one
[22:58] <Mez> Myrtti, try Komodo Edit.. manual install, but VERY nice IDE
[22:59] <Myrtti> Mez: but PIDA is full of emacs/vim goodness!
[23:00] <Mez> so is komodo... it uses things that feel like emacs shortcuts anyways
[23:00] <Myrtti> Mez: but pida *has* emacs in it.
[23:01] <Myrtti> (and is this a silly discussion or what?)
[23:01]  * Myrtti blinks
[23:01] <Mez> ^K ^G for example...
[23:01] <Mez> (goto definition)
[23:01] <Mez> #(most useful feature ever)
[23:05] <Myrtti> see!
[23:05] <Myrtti> emacs wins
[23:06] <Myrtti> idiot totally distracted from racist bull at -ot with the power of emacs!
[23:06] <Myrtti> WIN!
[23:07] <Flannel> eh, hes still being stupid though.
[23:07] <Flannel> although, I supppose less-offensive stupidity
[23:07] <Flannel> sigh.
[23:07] <Flannel> looks like forums get to deal with him now
[23:09]  * Myrtti laughs out loud
[23:09] <Myrtti> oh dear
[23:11] <Myrtti> that was funny
[23:20] <ompaul> watch white_eagle if he comes back to #ubuntu
[23:20] <ompaul> cheers