[00:00] <woli> uh...
[00:00] <xplane> Ok well when i try certain gtk themes with transparent panels it works fine, other times not
[00:00] <Irishmanluke> does it have to be ubuntu specific
[00:00] <lmartin92> unop: is there any reason that my my current xorg.conf is shorter than my newly generated xorg.conf.new?
[00:00] <thethirdmoose> I have a script in /etc/init.d that modifies /proc/acpi/wakeup, but it doesn't take effect at startup. Anyone know why?
[00:00] <Irishmanluke> why not just gtk+
[00:00] <xplane> what?
[00:00] <m0rbid> unop: http://pastebin.com/d33f32c03
[00:00] <Whiz2> I tried to completely uninstall xfce, gnome, and every other desktop. I rebooted after then installed kubuntu-desktop. it failed to install certain packages, broke several, and now I can't get it uninstalled again or repair it
[00:01] <iMind> is there a command that list all files in a directory with their rights? -eg. r w x?
[00:01] <unop> lmartin92, the ubuntu installer probably discarded the stuff that's trivial
[00:01] <unop> iMind, ls -l
[00:01] <danbhfive> Whiz2: what are you trying to install?
[00:01] <Whiz2> Kubuntu
[00:01] <devin> Install GCC from the repos, but it doesn't show up anywhere. How do I run it? o.o
[00:01] <devin> Installed.*
[00:01] <jrib> devin: in a terminal
[00:01] <iMind> unop, thanks exactly what i searched for *thumbsup*
[00:01] <danbhfive> Whiz2: try this exactly: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop^
[00:01] <greenman> I am being seriously irritated by ubuntu.  Does anyone know why a network card could see the network but not join it?
[00:01] <lmartin92> unop: ok, then when I install, I need to always regen my xorg.conf.... I'll start pushing new xorg.conf into used xorg.conf
[00:02] <Whiz2> danbhfiveI want only Kubuntu, and it's default stuff (as if I did a complete full reinstall of Kubuntu from a CD)
[00:02] <bdunlap> i have an problem - Emerald Themer won't allow me to change themes...
[00:02] <Whiz2> fails
[00:02] <remoteCTRL> greenman: for example that the network is encrypted?
[00:02] <danbhfive> Whiz2: fails?
[00:02] <greenman> remoteCTRL: nope, open network.
[00:02] <Whiz2> danbhfive: I already tried that, and it fails... wouldn't be here if it worked lol
[00:02] <lmartin92> unop: but only after this config fails
[00:02] <remoteCTRL> greenman: or that your mac address is not free to sue that network?
[00:02] <greenman> remoteCTRL: although I have tried on a wep, not wpa with same results
[00:02] <danbhfive> Whiz2: how does it fail?
[00:02] <maximal> Whiz2: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[00:03] <greenman> remoteCTRL: the mac address is specifically allowed, but even when my network was wide-wide open it wouldn't work
[00:03] <Whiz2> danbhfive: yes it complains about konqueror not being installed and that it can't overwrite some certain file or directory... I even tried removing that file and it gave the same error
[00:03] <remoteCTRL> greenman: nop you have turned off encryption copmpletely?
[00:03] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. I've got an hfsplus formated 1tb hd and I'm using rsync to move the date to my server (Ubuntu server headless) .. the data seems to be going very slow (USB 2.0) .. is there a faster way to copy data than strait rsync/cp/mv?
[00:03] <greenman> remoteCTRL: yup
[00:03] <lmartin92> cu all
[00:03] <unop> m0rbid, yea, it's installed like you said but not properly configured .. do this.  gksu gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/gdevilspie*postinst  # add this line in.  set +e; set -x  # then save the file and run this command again.
[00:03] <Whiz2> maximal: those were tbhe instructions I followed, so no
[00:03] <greenman> wanna know where I am so you can get on?  :)
[00:03] <m0rbid> unop: ok
[00:03] <remoteCTRL> greenman: what does iwlist scan return?
[00:04] <danbhfive> Whiz2: can you pastebin the exact error?
[00:04] <greenman> remoteCTRL: it shows my access point
[00:04] <unop> m0rbid, this time you'll get some more verbose output .. send that to the pastebin for us to see.
[00:04] <jrib> Whiz2: you need to pastebin the commands you are running and the complete output
[00:04] <Varsendaggr> how do i run the apt- mpackage manager for edgy ept...   as in i think it is not supported any more?
[00:04] <remoteCTRL> greenman: it also shows qualitx xy/100 and packets receioved and sent
[00:04] <m0rbid> unop: ok
[00:05] <jrib> Varsendaggr: you need to upgrade as you no longer get security fixes.  old-releases.ubuntu.com has a working repository though
[00:05] <Whiz2> danbhfive: uhh yeah but you'll have to hang on for a min
[00:05] <Mirth321> Hey guys, I have a new "used" computer, and it has a boot sector virus.  I can't get XP, Ubuntu, or anything else to install without it crashing before installing.
[00:05] <Varsendaggr> jrib, thanks,
[00:05] <greenman> remoteCTRL: quality 47/100
[00:06] <remoteCTRL> Mirth321: tried to start the live cd?
[00:06] <Jordan_U> unop: I havn't looked myself at the postinst but the error he was getting was from python, have you checked that it is a shell script calling a python script and not just a python script ( in which case set +e will just cause an error ) ?
[00:06] <greenman> I don't see packets sent
[00:06] <NineTeen67Comet> Mirth321: have you tried to reset the CMOS etc?
[00:06] <Mirth321> remoteControl: Yes
[00:06] <Mirth321> Ninteen67Comet: Nope... I should try that
[00:06] <Mirth321> I think it has a boot sector virus
[00:06] <NineTeen67Comet> That 'might' help, I've never had a virus like that ..
[00:06] <remoteCTRL> greenman: that shold do, have you configured the networkkard with essid and so further in the system/adminsistration/network dialog?
[00:06] <Whiz2> danbhfive: exactly what command do you want the error on? installing konqueror, or installing kubuntu-desktop?
[00:07] <Whiz2> or both?
[00:07] <remoteCTRL> Mirth321: and it boots with that and operates properly?
[00:07] <unop> Jordan_U, however unlikely that may be, you have a point
[00:07] <danbhfive> Whiz2: if they are different, then yeah, both
[00:07] <Mirth321> remoteCTRL:  Nope, not on the CD Ubuntu, I had to use my Live USB Ubuntu
[00:07] <unop> m0rbid, actually, before running the command .. can you paste the contents of the file
[00:07] <remoteCTRL> cd also isn't working?
[00:08] <br10ta10_> WiFi config question: just installed on my toshiba portege 3500. WiFi doesn't work. Configured it in sys->admin->network, but it isn't listed in ifconfig (it's eth1 according to iwconfig). And "ifconfig eth1 up" gives SIOCSIFFLAGS: Connection timed out
[00:08] <Mirth321> Correct, just crashes.
[00:08] <remoteCTRL> Mirth321: i doubt that that is a boot sector virus this sounds more lioke a briken southbridge...
[00:08] <Mirth321> Oh..
[00:08] <Mirth321> Nveer dealt with those.
[00:08] <Mirth321> Never*
[00:08] <m0rbid> unop: you mean change the line from + x to -x?
[00:09] <greenman> remoteCTRL: everything is greyed, I'll try setting it
[00:09] <unop> m0rbid, let's have a look at the file
[00:09] <neXyon> is there any repository which includes the newest blender version (2.47)?
[00:09] <remoteCTRL> Mirth321: of course it can be a heat problem, or just a broken memory stone
[00:09] <gaintsura> hey all, is there a gnome gui for administrating postgreSQL?
[00:09] <Mirth321> Hrm...
[00:10] <remoteCTRL> Mirth321: allthough a heat problem normally turns the computer completely off and doesn't cause it to crash, have you tried the memtest that ships with ubuntu?
[00:10] <m0rbid> unop: http://pastebin.com/d2bc2436d
[00:10] <greenman> remoteCTRL: in the password type it doesn't give an option for no password
[00:10] <remoteCTRL> greenman: come again?
[00:11] <unop> m0rbid, add a # in front of line #2 and add this to the next line.  set -x
[00:11] <Jordan_U> neXyon: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Blender
[00:11] <neilvaage> Hmm.. just changed my gstreamer-properties to X Window System (No Xv) and now Chess is actually displaying the 3D view.. although between every move the draw goes black before showing the move done, kinda like the animation disappears. But better than not being able to view it at all though.
[00:11] <greenman> remoteCTRL: under wireless setting in wlan0 properties there is a drop down for password type, it give two wep versions and two wpa, but I'm not using either
[00:12] <m0rbid> and run the install?
[00:12] <neXyon> thanks Jordan_U
[00:12] <Jordan_U> neXyon: np
[00:12] <danbhfive> Whiz2: ping?  I think I have to go soon
[00:12] <neilvaage> Another bonus is video playback actually shows nicely in Compiz, as in when rotating cube the video don't turn into a blue panel until I "seat" it back.
[00:12] <neXyon> Jordan_U: that's not a rep, right? you have to download the debs and install yourself, right?
[00:12] <maximal> br10ta10: what type of card do you have?
[00:12] <remoteCTRL> greenman: can't you leave that blank? or uncheck some "use password"?
[00:12] <Mirth321> Is there an equivalent to "fdisk /mbr" in Ubuntu?
[00:13] <br10ta10_> maximal, good question. iwconfig mentions HERMES, but not sure that is right.
[00:13] <Jordan_U> neXyon: Yes
[00:13] <unop> m0rbid, yea
[00:13] <neXyon> thx again
[00:13] <remoteCTRL> Mirth321: if you are really having mbr problems i suggest you use supergrub cd
[00:13] <m0rbid> unop: http://pastebin.com/d4ff65731
[00:13] <insigne> alguen do brasil ai
[00:13] <remoteCTRL> !supergrub
[00:13] <maximal> br10ta10: it should show up in ifconfig
[00:14] <greenman> remoteCTRL: I'll try leaving the password field blank, but there isn't a blank option in password type.
[00:14] <br10ta10_> maximal, it doesn't. eth1 is listed in iwconfig, but not ifconfig.
[00:14] <maximal> br10ta10: is it pcmcia or an internal card?
[00:14] <unop> m0rbid, did you save the file before running the command?
[00:14] <remoteCTRL> greenman: isn't there supposed to be a checkbox asking if that connection is encrypted?
[00:14] <br10ta10_> maximal, internal
[00:14] <m0rbid> unop: yup
[00:15] <maximal> br10ta10: lspci should give you the type
[00:15] <unop> m0rbid, it sure doesn't look like it .. verify you have
[00:15] <greenman> remoteCTRL: ah ha.  Network seems to be working.
[00:15] <remoteCTRL> greenman: hehe there you go
[00:15] <greenman> Not sure what will happen when I get to work and need to use a wep, maybe if I use manual it will work.
[00:15] <Whiz2> danbhfive: here this should give you the info you're asking for... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/42015/
[00:16] <remoteCTRL> as soon as you do it right wham bamm it works:)
[00:16] <m0rbid> unop: I did, but when I run the install again, it switches back
[00:16] <xupas> hi
[00:16] <greenman> remoteCTRL: thanks.  Now I just need an easy way to find a file on a timemachine backup, I don't suppose someone has written a script or such for that...
[00:16] <remoteCTRL> greenman: that is an interesting question
[00:16] <m0rbid> you sure I am editing the correct file?
[00:16] <unop> m0rbid, ahh .. sorry. i'm not paying enough attention here.  save the file .. then run.  sudo aptitude install
[00:16] <xupas> how are you guys
[00:17] <remoteCTRL> greenman: i am afraid i have no idea what a timemachine backup is, sorry...
[00:17] <br10ta10_> maximal, lspci doesn't list it at all. the only "net" entry is  Intel Corporation 82551QM Ethernet Controller
[00:17] <xupas> guys
[00:17] <danbhfive> Whiz2: try sudo apt-get clean, and then try again, and pastebin the output of this exact command: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop^
[00:17] <mucho_danno> ummm anyone here play world of warcraft in ubuntu?
[00:17] <xupas> i have wifi radar installed on ubuntu
[00:17] <woli> which is the best 'emulator' of windows software for games?
[00:17] <greenman> remoteCTRL: it's OSX ;)
[00:17] <xupas> and i see wifi network
[00:18] <xupas> but i cant connect
[00:18] <xupas> why?
[00:18] <remoteCTRL> unop: do you know any decent working script to switch your wifi connections? like when you're at work and when you're at home... without having to reconfigure it manually?
[00:18] <neXyon> bye
[00:18] <Whiz2> danbhfive: tried that already, and here is what I get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/42016/
[00:18] <xupas> does any one know how i connect to wifi network?
[00:18] <remoteCTRL> greenman: hehe glad to help
[00:18] <xupas> appears here
[00:18] <maximal> br10ta10_: if it is internal then I would expect it to be mini-pci and for lspci to show it
[00:18] <m0rbid> ok unop, what would you like to see.
[00:18] <remoteCTRL> here we go again:D
[00:18] <xupas> i have wifi radar
[00:18] <mucho_danno> WoW geeks????
[00:18] <danbhfive> Whiz2: what is that gain?
[00:19] <remoteCTRL> xupas: what does iwlist scan return?
[00:19] <danbhfive> Whiz2: *again?
[00:19] <Whiz2> danbhfive: oh whoops i gave you the wrong one
[00:19] <xupas> remoteCTRL
[00:19] <Jordan_U> unop: That is such a simple script I am pretty sure that what you'll find from set -x is that the error is from line 5 "pycentral pkginstall gdevilspie"
[00:19] <remoteCTRL> xupas: yes?
[00:19] <clayg> how do you get the volume control on gnom?
[00:19] <remoteCTRL> clayg: gnome-volume-control
[00:19] <clayg> thanks
[00:19] <remoteCTRL> np
[00:20] <Whiz2> danbhfive: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/42018/
[00:20] <xupas> remotectrl appears the wifi network
[00:20] <mucho_danno> 1250 ppl and no one wants to help with WoW
[00:20] <m0rbid> unop: http://pastebin.com/dac2bb5a
[00:20] <unop> m0rbid, the output of   sudo aptitude install
[00:20] <Varsendaggr> is there a way to install edgy anymore?
[00:20] <xupas> remoteCTRL appears the network
[00:20] <remoteCTRL> xupas: you have a few values there like quality: xy/100 ant received packets and sent packets what does it say there?
[00:20] <Jordan_U> Varsendaggr: Why would you want to?
[00:21] <Varsendaggr> of course there is   but how
[00:21] <danbhfive> Whiz2: Im actually asking you to run a different command.  Can you add the ^ to the end?  It makes the command quite different.
[00:21] <Varsendaggr> Jordan_U, my palm intigrates really well with edgy and it got broke after that
[00:21] <remoteCTRL> mucho_danno: what's your problem?
[00:21] <Whiz2> danbhfive: give me the exact command again please
[00:22] <danbhfive> Whiz2: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop^
[00:22] <m0rbid> mucho_danno: there are explicit forums on the WoW topic, you need to read thru it ALL
[00:22] <mucho_danno> well i have tried all options and forum ideas to get wow playing in wine but it flashes during play...
[00:22] <xupas> remotectrl Quality: 76/100 Signal level:-47 dbm
[00:22] <unop> m0rbid, does this give you anything?  which pycentral
[00:22] <Jordan_U> Varsendaggr: You realize that edgy doesn't get any updates anymore, including security, and that it contains a very serious ssl vulnerability
[00:22] <m0rbid> mucho_danno: Ech PC is different,
[00:22] <br10ta10_> maximal, http://pastebin.com/d21cceae4 I don't think I'm missing it, am I?
[00:22] <m0rbid> /usr/bin/pycentral
[00:22] <remoteCTRL> mucho_danno: ah i remember... well it is a quite special problem i agree with morbid
[00:23] <Varsendaggr> what is ssl?
[00:23] <m0rbid> secure socket layer
[00:23] <Varsendaggr> oh
[00:23] <remoteCTRL> xupas have you configured the essid and such already in system/administration/network?
[00:23] <Jordan_U> Varsendaggr: secure socket layer, its the basis of pretty much all network security including ssh
[00:23] <mucho_danno> any ideas on how to go about it?? or if it's a graphics card related??
[00:23] <m0rbid> mucho_danno: google Wow Ubuntu
[00:23] <m0rbid> AND READ
[00:23] <Jordan_U> Varsendaggr: Does your palm sync with Dapper?
[00:24] <remoteCTRL> Varsendaggr: secure socket layer that is an encryption
[00:24] <mucho_danno> i did... still not helpin
[00:24] <m0rbid> then you need to ask in the forums
[00:24] <remoteCTRL> i am to slow
[00:24] <mucho_danno> yea i'll head there then..
[00:24] <mucho_danno> thanks
[00:24] <maximal> br10ta10_: no it looks like it is just an ethernet card
[00:24] <m0rbid> np
[00:24] <remoteCTRL> !main | xupas
[00:24] <Varsendaggr> Jordan_U, possibly,   ohh dapper is LTS
[00:24] <xupas> remotectrl no
[00:24] <xupas> remotectrl how to doo it friend?
[00:25] <remoteCTRL> xupas: no that wasn't  it:D i wanted to say lets stay here
[00:25] <danbhfive> Whiz2: well, I gota go, hope that does something for ya.  Repost if it doesn't.  Someone else may have some other ideas
[00:25] <xupas> remoteCTRL i have installed wifi radar
[00:25] <remoteCTRL> xupas: where are you from my friend?
[00:25] <br10ta10_> maximal, hmm. it should be there. WindowsXP can see it. Do I need to install a driver before I can even see it in lspci??
[00:25] <xupas> remoteCTRL im from Portugal
[00:25] <xupas> remoteCTRL XD
[00:26] <Whiz2> danbhfive: it looks like it *might* be working now... what difference does the ^ make at the end?
[00:26] <remoteCTRL> xupas: greez to the sun and the atlantic ocean then
[00:26] <Flannel> Leefmc: What's up?
[00:26] <danbhfive> Whiz2: its a shortcut to some sort of tasksel thing
[00:26] <maximal> br10ta10_: no, the driver should load automatically - I was just going to suggest looking for it
[00:26] <xupas> remoteCTRL ya you right :)
[00:26] <unop> m0rbid, ok. i'm hoping reinstalling pycentral solves this.  cd ~/Desktop && wget -q http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-central/python-central_0.6.5ubuntu1_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i python-central_0.6.5ubuntu1_all.deb
[00:26] <Leefmc> Flannel: You familiar with mod_rewrite at all? I've got the normal stack working but ive spent the last hour or two fighting rewrite heh.
[00:26] <remoteCTRL> xupas:  well as i said go to system/administration/network and edit the preferences of the wireless connection
[00:26] <xupas> remoteCTRL can you say me how to connect this shit lool
[00:26] <Leefmc> Flannel: This is the kind of stuff i liked about xampp ;P
[00:26] <Whiz2> danbhfive: if it fails, i'll give you the entire output in a paste
[00:26] <maximal> br10ta10_: I just found this on the forums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304217#4
[00:27] <kevinO> !ohmy | xupas
[00:27] <Leefmc> Flannel: I've tried more solutions than i can count heh, nothing has worked so far
[00:27] <Flannel> Leefmc: Apache is apache, regardless of its xampp or lamp.  Rewrite works just fine by default.
[00:27] <xupas> KevinO sorry pall
[00:27] <remoteCTRL> xupas: well you can fiy it but you will need two things: your brain and a little patience
[00:27] <Whiz2> danbhfive: does that also work to uninstall desktops as well?
[00:27] <xupas> remoteCTRL shure ...
[00:27] <unop> remoteCTRL, you mean you want something that can automatically switch networks?
[00:27] <Leefmc> Flannel: Heh, say that if you want, but currently i am having trouble getting it to work on the standard stack ;P
[00:27] <Dark_passenger> alguien sabe como hacer para que funcionen las tildes y la egne?
[00:27] <Flannel> Leefmc: hmmm, alright, maybe you need to enable it first, but after that...
[00:28] <maximal> br10ta10_: you could see if an orinoco driver is loaded - lsmod | grep orinoco
[00:28] <Leefmc> Flannel: Just like everything though, by design, it all works out of the box with xampp hehe ;)
[00:28] <prince_jammys> !locale | Dark_passenger
[00:28] <remoteCTRL> unop: that would be really great!
[00:28] <xupas> remoteCTRL i think i miss something
[00:28] <Flannel> Leefmc: Did you enable rewrite?
[00:28] <Leefmc> Flannel: Already enabled (via the enable command)
[00:28] <jimmio> !es | Dark_passenger
[00:28] <remoteCTRL> xupas: what is it?
[00:28] <Dark_passenger> sorry about that
[00:28] <Leefmc> Flannel: Yup, and i've spent the last hour or two trying the hundred hacks i've dugg up on the internet heh.
[00:28] <xupas> remoteCTRL the driver of wireless card is working, i can scan for the network but i can have internet
[00:29] <Leefmc> Flannel: Im about burned out :)
[00:29] <Flannel> Leefmc: Hacks aren't necessary.  You did a2enmod rewrite, right? and then restarted apache?
[00:29] <xupas> remoteCTRL i cant have ip i think
[00:29] <Leefmc> Flannel: Yes yes.
[00:29] <remoteCTRL> xupas:  you have a menu in your task bar there it says system, if you click on it you see administration, then there goes network and in there you can edit the properties of the wireless connection
[00:29] <unop> remoteCTRL, i am not aware of any .. and personally, i don't like the idea of your wireless networks being switched over automatically
[00:29] <Flannel> Leefmc: And then what?
[00:29] <danbhfive> Whiz2: no, and I don't think it would make sense to either.  I think there is an ubotu factoid that can help with that.   I always use gtkorphan myself, to get rid of the extra files.  Just make just to hibernate any programs you want, and also kubuntu-desktop and linux-generic
[00:29] <greenman> Anyone know of an easier way of navigating a timemachine backup?  gui would be nice...
[00:29] <Leefmc> Flannel: Eh? Nothing, no rewrite seen by drupal :)
[00:29] <maximal> br10ta10_: and try lsmod | grep hermes
[00:30] <Jordan_U> wols_: It seems that since the error is in pkg.read_version_info that likely nothing was actually modified / installed as far as pycentral is concerned and that therefore it would be safe exit the postinst script without doing anything if the package is just going to be removed anyway and I am guessing that the commands after line 5 will fail without line 5 running successfully , but I don't want to suggest just exiting withou
[00:30] <Jordan_U> t a second opinion
[00:30] <Leefmc> Flannel: The other hacks i've been trying mostly involve adding lines to the various config files of apache
[00:30] <tsudot> i get this when i try to install any packages http://pastebin.com/d315068c1
[00:30] <Flannel> Leefmc: Alright, well, first lets make sure its not just drupal being stupid.  in /var/www we're going to make .htaccess and try it out
[00:30] <Whiz2> danbhfive: sorry it failed... here is the output from beginning to end on that command http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/42021/
[00:30] <Leefmc> Flannel: A bit of this, etc, http://drupal.org/node/134439
[00:30] <Flannel> Leefmc: Don't do that.
[00:30] <br10ta10_> maximal, yeah, there is something there: hermes                  8448  2 orinoco_cs,orinoco
[00:30] <tsudot> how do i resolve this without restarting
[00:30] <Leefmc> Flannel: Too late ;P
[00:30] <xupas> remotectrl not work
[00:30] <Flannel> Leefmc: If something isn't working that should be working, trying a "hack" is the wrong thing to do.
[00:31] <remoteCTRL> unop: umm, maybe i wasn't specific enuff, atm you need to manually change the settings of that connection each time you come home or you go to work. nice would be something that i click on, choose from my customised connections and then connect to it
[00:31] <Leefmc> Flannel: Heh, well i didnt know the right thing, so i did what i could find on the internet heh.. cant blame a man :p
[00:31] <Flannel> Leefmc: Shotgun debugging, in most cases, is only good at breaking things.
[00:31] <unop> Jordan_U, while your suggestion will surely provide a workaround .. it does not address the problem
[00:31] <remoteCTRL> unop: please say there is something out there
[00:31] <Leefmc> Flannel: vs what?
[00:31] <danbhfive> Whiz2: have you tried removing kio-unmount wrapper?  or whatever its called?
[00:31] <unop> remoteCTRL, doesn't the network manager already do that?
[00:31] <Flannel> Leefmc: You should ask someone who may know.  Either here, or in #apache.
[00:31] <maximal> br10ta10_: that's good, the driver loaded then
[00:32] <Leefmc> Flannel: Heh, did, but i didnt feel like spamming :)
[00:32] <Whiz2> danbhfive: no but I can try
[00:32] <remoteCTRL> xupas: hombre you need to be more specific i can't work with it no trabajo
[00:32] <Leefmc> anyway
[00:32] <unop> remoteCTRL, i don't use gnome currently -- but i remember it doing something like it
[00:32] <Flannel> Leefmc: shotgun debugging vs actual debugging (shotgun debugging would be "lets change this! nope, lets change this! nope, lets change this! nope"
[00:32] <remoteCTRL> unop: you mean all by itself??
[00:32] <zcat[1]> can't get my flashdrive to be bootable. I've carefully followed http://www.ryancloke.com/ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-live-usb-how-to/ but my laptop just keeps rebooting when the USB is in and the desktop machine hangs immediately after POST.
[00:32] <LeeBee> Greetings... I'm having a brain malfunction... can someone please tell me the apt-get for the gui for the server edition?
[00:32] <zcat[1]> and suggestions?
[00:33] <Flannel> LeeBee: Which GUI?
[00:33] <zcat[1]> *any
[00:33] <Flannel> LeeBee: That is, which GUI would you like?  the server edition doesn't come with one by default.
[00:33] <LeeBee> I need to put the gui on the server edition of Heron
[00:33] <xupas> remoteCTRL i see the network here but i cant connect
[00:33] <unop> remoteCTRL, no, you select (or right click) the little icon in the notification area .. it lists the network available, you choose which one
[00:33] <Leefmc> Flannel: Well shotgun debugging is about the only thing the uneducated can do heh, unless i spend hours and hours learning the ins and outs, but for time comparisons i usually have more luck with shotgun hehe :)
[00:33] <zcat[1]> !usb
[00:33] <unop> remoteCTRL, or something along those lines
[00:33] <danbhfive> Whiz2: honestly, I really have to go, my last suggestion is to separate your /home to a dedicated partition, and do a clean install.  Its easier than trying to piece through this, and all your settings are saved     (unless you run server apps, but if you do, you gota handle that : P    )
[00:33] <Leefmc> Flannel: I rarely have time to sit down with a good book ;)
[00:33] <danbhfive> !home > Whiz2
[00:33] <remoteCTRL> unop: oh man i thank you i gotta look into that asap
[00:34] <Flannel> Leefmc: You'll spend more time (and break more things that you wont notice until something else isn't working) doing shotgun debugging vs actually figuring out whats causing it to not work.
[00:34] <danbhfive> Whiz2: take care
[00:34] <Leefmc> Flannel: Heh, i'll pick up a book next time :p.
[00:34] <remoteCTRL> xupas: you need to click on the unlock button in the network dialog
[00:34] <Flannel> Leefmc: No need to get a book, but read the actual apache docs, etc.
[00:34] <woli> how do i pull a trash to the desktop?
[00:34] <LeeBee> I understand that it doesn't come with a gui, but I need to install one on the Heron Server
[00:34] <Leefmc> Flannel: Got any handy for my MX Revolution? ;)
[00:34] <Flannel> Leefmc: for instance: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html
[00:35] <br10ta10_> maximal, does that mean I don't need to download the driver from that link you sent?
[00:35] <Flannel> Leefmc: anyway, we're offtopic.  Lets try getting rewrite to actually work using simple rewrite rules, etc.  For all we know, drupal is doing it wrong.
[00:35] <remoteCTRL> LeeBee: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[00:35] <Leefmc> Flannel: Blech, usually deadlines are involved, and i end up just doing something that works. Its the reason i've favored a simple packaged development server for years now (xampp)
[00:35] <Leefmc> Flannel: K
[00:35] <LeeBee> Thank You
[00:36] <maximal> br10ta10_: Not necessarily that was an old thead
[00:36] <remoteCTRL> LeeBee: or maybee just gnome
[00:36] <Flannel> LeeBee: That's wrong.  It's ubuntu-desktop, but again, there's a *few* choices for GUIs, which one would you like?  Also, why do you want a GUI on a server?
[00:36] <Whiz2> !netboot | whiz2
[00:36] <remoteCTRL> Flannel: thanks for helping out
[00:36] <LeeBee> I need it for something that I hafta run
[00:36] <maximal> br10ta10_: my first suggestion normally would be to look up your card here -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[00:36] <Flannel> LeeBee: What do you need to run on a server that requires a GUI?
[00:37] <maximal> br10ta10_: unfortunately I can't see it listed
[00:37] <LeeBee> webmin
[00:37] <unop> m0rbid, how's it going?
[00:37] <remoteCTRL> :D
[00:37] <zcat[1]> Ummm.. WEBmin has a WEB interface doesn't it?
[00:37] <br10ta10_> maximal, oh. that would be bad.
[00:37] <remoteCTRL> LeeBee: and what would you actually admin with webmin?
[00:38] <zcat[1]> or do you admin the server locally via a browser?
[00:38] <Flannel> LeeBee: Webmin does have a web interface, and also, webmin isn't supported because its bad.
[00:38] <BigKahuna> can someone help with a basic ubuntu question?
[00:38] <ian_> can anybody help me with some opengl stuff ? because i get spikelagg in wow
[00:38] <Flannel> !ask | BigKahuna
[00:38] <pistache> !ask ian_
[00:38] <pistache> !ask | ian_
[00:38] <LeeBee> hosting several websites and mail
[00:38] <xupas> remoteCTRL
[00:38] <maximal> br10ta10_: the next step is to look for the laptop page - I'll try to find a link for you
[00:38] <m0rbid> unop: sorry, gunna check it now
[00:38] <remoteCTRL> xupas: si senhor?
[00:39] <xupas> remoteCTRL i cant conect lol
[00:39] <zcat[1]> but anyhow I can't comment, I put gui's on servers because I'm lazy and besides gdm uses sfa resources when nobody's logged in anyhow
[00:39] <BigKahuna> thats..its my first time here so sorry if my etiquette isn't great :)  But I'm building a computer from ground up and I'd like to install Ubuntu on it...should I just download the installer file from the website then burn it to a CD?  Or is there a better and/or correct way?
[00:39] <remoteCTRL> xupas: there you go!
[00:39] <xupas> remoteCTRL with terminal you know how to?
[00:39] <ian_> pistache what did i do wrong ?
[00:39] <remoteCTRL> BigKahuna: burning the .iso file would be just fine
[00:39] <rickyzone> bigkahuna: it's the easiest
[00:40] <remoteCTRL> xupas: more or the less yes but please don't ask me to explain*g*
[00:40] <zcat[1]> BigKahuna: just one thing to be aware of, iso's get burned -to- the CD (it's a prebuilt CD filesystem) not -onto- a CD as a big file..
[00:40] <BigKahuna> ok thanks guys :)  I'm a beginnger with building machines and using Ubuntu so expect to see more of me in the future...
[00:40] <StepNjum1> Hi guys, does anyone know what the bash shell application I should invoke in order to change my startup menu?
[00:40] <pistache> ian_, don't ask to ask a question, ask the question. But, in fact you were asking the question in your sentence, so excuse me, I read wrong ^^
[00:40] <x1938> the largest channel on freenode :)
[00:41] <BigKahuna> zcat: where do I get the ISO file and not just the installer file
[00:41] <x1938> hello everyone !
[00:41] <BigKahuna> ?
[00:41] <Flannel> !hi | x1938
[00:41] <ian_> pistache np :d
[00:41] <remoteCTRL> BigKahuna: we will be looking forward to
[00:41] <x1938> ty.
[00:41] <ian_> can anybody help me with some opengl stuff ? because i get spikelagg in wow
[00:41] <br10ta10_> !ask | ian_
[00:41] <maximal> br10ta10_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Toshiba
[00:41] <xupas> can any one explain me step by step to connect to wireless network? i scan and i found my network but i try to connect and nothing work
[00:41] <m0rbid> unop: !!! YOU DEH FRICKEN MAN!
[00:41] <Flannel> ian_: have you tried the stuff here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[00:42] <unop> m0rbid, heh
[00:42] <zcat[1]> BigKahuna: there's a download link and also a guide to burning correctly on the ubuntu website I think.. should be fairly obvious...
[00:42] <remoteCTRL> heh
[00:42] <rwaite> hi all. i'm having a problem logging into remote ssh servers in my hardy install. it gets to the login prompt but after typing in my password seems to just hang...
[00:42] <BigKahuna> OK Zcat, thanks.  I just wanted to make sure I was getting the right thing.  I will look for the guide to correctly burning it too
[00:42] <Varsendaggr> is dapper still availible for download?
[00:42] <m0rbid> now I fergot why I orginally came here.
[00:42] <remoteCTRL> xupas: didn't you just say it works???
[00:42] <BigKahuna> thanks for your help everyone
[00:42] <Flannel> BigKahuna: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  The top of that page has a guide
[00:42] <rwaite> i cannot end the process with crtl-c either
[00:42] <rwaite> has anyone heard of this happening?
[00:42] <BigKahuna> thanks flannel!
[00:43] <m0rbid> unop: thanks for your help dude.
[00:43] <unop> m0rbid, run this now.  sudo aptitude install
[00:43] <unop> m0rbid, yw
[00:43] <m0rbid> I did
[00:43] <m0rbid> =)
[00:43] <unop> :)
[00:43] <Flannel> BigKahuna: and then once you're using Ubuntu, this page has a good deal of information for regular tasks: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[00:43] <xupas> remoteCTRL how you tell me in administration > network edit and natheng
[00:43] <ian_> Flannel ill try that one thx :)
[00:43] <m0rbid> Oh!! VirtualBox!
[00:43] <br10ta10_> maximal, thanks for the page. i'll do some reading. my 3500 isn't listed, but maybe one of those is similar.
[00:43] <BigKahuna> thanks again :)
[00:43] <m0rbid> for some reason its not installing the modules.
[00:43] <ian_> br10ta10_, i dont do anything wrong in my question ?
[00:44] <remoteCTRL> xupas: oh my, man what values did you enter in the wireless connections preferences for essid and encryption key and so on?
[00:44] <zcat[1]> anyhow, off to try a different usb howto. It is possible to have a USB stick that just can't boot? Because I've booted both these machines from an IDE drive on a USB adapter before no trouble at all, but from my new memory stick neither will boot
[00:44] <xupas> remoteCTRL my network dont have password no WEP
[00:44] <zcat[1]> also I've booted my laptop off my mp3 player set up as a USB bootable device in the past
[00:45] <remoteCTRL> xupas but it as an essid have you entered that?
[00:45] <xupas> ya
[00:45] <xupas> say SMC
[00:45] <zcat[1]> 'cos if this memory stick can't be used for booting it's going back to the store on Monday
[00:46] <Flannel> ian_: your question was a bit vague.  You really didn't need anyone who knew about openGL, just WoW and Wine.  Best to be direct and upfront with the questions, so people can help quicker.
[00:46] <remoteCTRL> xupas: then you click ok or close or what ever and after that you have no connection?
[00:46] <Ubuntu777> can someone help me I dual boot ubuntu and win xp. I am having problems booting win xp
[00:46] <maximal> br10ta10_: i'm running out of ideas,  try searching the ubuntu forums.  If you can't get a native driver working then you can always try the Windows driver through ndiswrapper.
[00:47] <xupas> remoteCTRL ya you are right no connection
[00:47] <remoteCTRL> Ubuntu777: what kind of problems?
[00:48] <remoteCTRL> xupas: what does ifconfig return?
[00:48] <ironfroggy_> can anyone tell me how to get sed to replace a blank line with nothing?
[00:48] <remoteCTRL> xupas: how many connections and what names? eth= wlan= etc...?
[00:48] <ironfroggy_> so that i remove blank lines from the stream? i tried s/^$// but it just leaves the blank lines.
[00:48] <Ubuntu777> When I boot to win xp it starts to load then it shows a black screen
[00:48] <Bhavesh> amavisd-new vs mailscanner, i have used mailscanner before, how does it compare with amavisd any suggestions?
[00:48] <br10ta10_> maximal, thanks so much for helping me out. i really appreciate it.
[00:49] <lauren4667> I have a dell xps m1330 running gutsy, and I was trying to set up dual monitors and got myself in a bit of a bind. i installed nvidia settings, then tried to run it, that prompted me to run nvidia-xconfig and then restart the x server, so i did cntrl+alt+backspace and then on restart it booted in low graphics mode and asked me to configure my monitors. i just want to restore my xorg file to...
[00:49] <lauren4667> ...the back up, but i'm not sure which back up to use. I did ls -l and it says xorg.conf was modified an hour ago, then xorg.conf.1, then xorg.conf.backup, then xorg.conf.failsafe, then xorg.conf.failsafe.bak (most recently modified).  should i go with xorg.conf.1? can anyone advise?  i'll be so grateful : )
[00:49] <remoteCTRL> Ubuntu777: by starts to load you mean you see a progress bar from windows?
[00:49] <prince_jammys> ironfroggy_: sed '/^$/d'
[00:49] <unop> ironfroggy_, sed does not understand the concept of newlines as it works with single lines only by default .. the newlines are discarded before your s/// gets a chance to operate on the line
[00:49] <remoteCTRL> Bhavesh: if you are looking for a really nice mailscanner, my personal favourite is maia
[00:49] <maximal> br10ta10_: no problem, I hope I pointed you in the right direction.  wifi can be difficult to get working.
[00:50] <Bhavesh> ......
[00:50] <Bhavesh> so
[00:50] <unop> ironfroggy_, err, pay no attention to that - i misread
[00:50] <Bhavesh> 1
[00:50] <Bhavesh> sorry my son is typing, and he is 2
[00:50] <Ubuntu777> yes
[00:50] <ironfroggy_> prince_jammys: trying that i get errors that its unterminated
[00:50] <Bhavesh> remoteCTRL i will look into it.. i have
[00:50] <Bhavesh> .a+ 80
[00:50] <ironfroggy_> wait i did it wrong
[00:50] <ironfroggy_> thanks!
[00:50] <prince_jammys> ironfroggy_: :)
[00:51] <remoteCTRL> Bhavesh: you can personalize your selection rules and train your own rules and it has a really nice web frontend to configure your settings
[00:51] <ironfroggy_> one other question.. can i get sed to take multiple patterns? im piping through sed three times right now!
[00:51] <Flannel> lauren4667: well, worst case is you try the wrong one and have to try the other one...
[00:51] <xxx> remoteCTRL back
[00:51] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL
[00:51] <remoteCTRL> xxx: ok, and you are?:D
[00:51] <remoteCTRL> nope still not?
[00:51] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL xupas ...
[00:52] <remoteCTRL> i see
[00:52] <remoteCTRL> what happened?
[00:52] <jrib> ironfroggy_: -e
[00:52] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL what you want to tell you
[00:52] <ironfroggy_> thanks
[00:52] <maximal> br10ta10_: one more thought - does the output of dmesg list anything interesting?  Also it might be worth checking your error logs (System->Administration->System Log)
[00:52] <unop> ironfroggy_, you could do something like.  '/pattern\|pattern2\|pattern3/d'
[00:52] <DannyG> whats the besT AV softwarto detetct window virus for files while they are still on a ubunutu box ?????
[00:53] <remoteCTRL> Bhavesh: http://www.maiamailguard.com/maia/wiki/AboutMaia
[00:53] <lauren4667> Flannel: hmm, ok i'm such a comman line newbie, though, that it's a bit anxiety producing.. eg, if i do cp ... xorg.conf and i pick the wrong one?
[00:53] <Flannel> ironfroggy_: What do you mean multiple patterns?
[00:53] <abstortedminds> I was wondering if anyone knew why my connection stalls when downloading files from the ubuntu server in the other room (ubuntu to ubuntu) using both http and scp
[00:53] <unop> Flannel, pattern1|pattern2|pattern3|etc :)
[00:54] <DannyG> whats the besT AV softwarto detetct window virus for files while they are still on a ubunutu box ?????
[00:54] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: well does it work or what?
[00:54] <Flannel> lauren4667: Well, copy the current xorg.conf to xorg.conf.broken (so we can technically come back to it if we want) and then cp xorg.conf.we-want-to-try xorg.conf, and try it, and then if that doesn't work, cp xorg.conf.we-want-to-try-now xorg.conf, etc.
[00:54] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: btw you can rename youreself to xupas now again
[00:54] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL what you want to i tell you ?
[00:54] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: the output from ifconfig
[00:54] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL im in ifconfig
[00:54] <Flannel> lauren4667: but if I had to guess, yes, from what you said .conf.1 sounds like your best bet
[00:55] <DannyG> whats the besT AV softwarto detetct window virus for files while they are still on a ubunutu box ?????
[00:55] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL but the outpout is big
[00:55] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: what network connections does it list? like th0 wlan=, etc...?
[00:55] <jrib> DannyG: try clamav
[00:55] <remoteCTRL> eth0 wlan0
[00:55] <Denise> DannyG
[00:56] <remoteCTRL> can it be that unregistered people can not talk to the channel anymore?
[00:56] <jrib> remoteCTRL: no, not right now
[00:56] <Ubuntu777> I can't load win xp I get message win did not shut down properly and when I choose start normally it shows win xp progress bar then goes to black screen
[00:56] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL wlan0: avahi Link encap:ethernet HWaddr 00:15:af:b9:cd:1f
[00:56] <remoteCTRL> what does mode +e say?
[00:57] <pretender> have accidentally set ManDVD to German when i first opened it any ideas how to get it back to English.  I have tried re installing with no luck
[00:57] <Denise> unregistered
[00:57] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: dhclient wlan0 returns what?
[00:57] <Flannel> remoteCTRL: +e is so that person from mibbit can talk
[00:57] <rubyat> is usb2.0 as fast as the ethernet input?
[00:57] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL not appears dhclient
[00:57] <lauren4667> Flannel: ok, that helps :)  to copy xorg.conf to xorg.conf.broken use cp?  cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.broken ?
[00:58] <Flannel> lauren4667: cp source destination, yes
[00:58] <Jordan_U> pretender: Does it have a config file like ~/.mandvd that you can delete?
[00:58] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: put a sudo infront of it
[00:58] <pretender> I will have a look now Jordan_U
[00:59] <remoteCTRL> Flannel: has the floodbot muted somebody for some period of time and just lifted it again?
[00:59] <br10ta10_> maximal, http://pastebin.com/m649bf735 has the output my dmesg|grep eth1
[00:59] <Flannel> remoteCTRL: No, mibbit has a blanket ban for security reasons, but we allow people to use mibbit through an exception sort of thing.  It allows real people to use mibbit, without the problem with mibbit floods.
[01:00] <woli> were are applications stored?
[01:00] <Flannel> woli: What are you looking for?
[01:00] <woli> the place were all executables go
[01:00] <woli> to put mine there
[01:00] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL sudo ifconfig?
[01:00] <br10ta10_> maximal, Aug 30 15:16:16 laptop kernel: [ 1473.700827] hermes @ 00010100: Card removed while issuing command 0x0021.
[01:00] <woli> its small, but i want it to be runnable from the console
[01:00] <Flannel> woli: What do you mean "yours"?
[01:00] <jrib> woli: what application?
[01:01] <Jordan_U> woli: You probably want to put yours in ~/bin then
[01:01] <remoteCTRL> Flannel: forgive me my lack of understanding history what concenrs security issues, what's that all about?
[01:01] <woli> i coded and compiled it...
[01:01] <woli> uh ok
[01:01] <br10ta10_> maximal, funny, kind of hard to remove a built in card while issuing commands
[01:01] <Flannel> remoteCTRL: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: sudo dhclient wlan0
[01:01]  * jrib echoes what Jordan_U suggested
[01:01] <Flannel> remoteCTRL: or #ubuntu-ops, whichever you're more comfortable with
[01:01] <pretender> Jordan_U:  not that I can see
[01:01] <rightlane> Hi, I've just downloaded and booted from cd.  I want to adjust screen resolution, but it only shows 600 & 800 res options.  I have HP w2207.  All drivers available are for windows.  What should do to get my res. set?
[01:01] <woli> Jordan_U, if i put it there, will it be runable from the terminal?
[01:02] <timob> !res
[01:02] <Jordan_U> wols_: If you don't have a ~/bin already you will need to log out and log back in before the shell looks there for executables, but after it's recognized yes. Any executable put there will be runable from the terminal
[01:03] <maximal> br10ta10_: yes, there is something not right with that driver
[01:03] <Flannel> woli: ^^ that was for you from Jordan_U
[01:03] <maximal> br10ta10_: it is obviously recognising the card, loading a the driver
[01:04] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL apperars DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 on port 67 interval 8
[01:04] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL apperars DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 on port 67 interval 11
[01:04] <Norrz> hi? any help plz? after re-installing windows, i lost the grub loader. and what i tried is to enter the demo version, uninstall grub from the synaptic manager, then trying to install again, which gave me an error. so what could be the solution?
[01:04] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL apperars DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 on port 67 interval 12
[01:04] <Jordan_U> !paste | Guest77048
[01:04] <Flannel> !grub | Norrz
[01:04] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: ok stop it dude
[01:04] <Flannel> Norrz: first link there will get you all set up
[01:04] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL ok lol
[01:04] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL i want to give you all information
[01:04] <Guest77048> :)
[01:04] <lucas_> Hello, is there a way to make a folder's icon the image of a predefined image in that folder (let's say folder.jpg) ,if it has one, and else the default folder icon?
[01:05] <Irishmanluke> people should use screen
[01:05] <Norrz> Flannel, my ubuntu is installed on the most free space disk, and not on a certain created disk.
[01:05] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: paste me the output from ifconfig, iwconfig and iwlist scan to www.nopaste.org please
[01:05] <rubyat> is a cable modem through usb better/worse/same as a cable modem through ethernet?
[01:05] <Flannel> Norrz: That's fine.  It's installed somewhere, and that first link will reinstall GRUB for you, after windows wiped it out.
[01:05] <Norrz> Flannel, i tried this method. always giving me cannot mount root. :S
[01:05] <Flannel> Norrz: Then you're probably giving it the wrong partition numbers.
[01:05] <Norrz> hmmm
[01:06] <Irishmanluke> ubuntu installer automatically partitions
[01:06] <Norrz> Flannel. the command is always (hd0,X), where X is the variable ?
[01:07] <Flannel> Norrz: No, its hdX,Y where X is the harddrive number and Y is the partition number.  (both are 0 indexed)
[01:07] <Norrz> ahhh
[01:07] <Norrz> that's my fault then ;)
[01:07] <lauren4667> Flannel: ok, done.. should i just reboot?
[01:07] <Norrz> thanks Flannel. I'll go try
[01:07] <ian_> Flannel ty verry much that guide fixed my problem :D
[01:07] <lauren4667> Flannel: thanks for your patience : )
[01:07] <woli> how can i make a launcher that will pull out a gnome-terminal and launch--from the terminal--an executable?
[01:08] <Jordan_U> woli: gnome-terminal -e "command"
[01:08] <woli> thanks
[01:08] <Jordan_U> woli: np
[01:08] <Norrz> Flannel, if this is all I have /dev/hda1, how can you identify the X and the Y?
[01:09] <woli> Jordan_U, it says that there was an error executing the child process
[01:09] <buahhaha> anybody able to answer an extremely stupid question regarding cp (the command)? i'm trying to use it in a script and the result is not as expected
[01:09] <jrib> buahhaha: best to just ask the channel your question
[01:09] <Ubuntu777> can someone help me I dual boot ubuntu and win xp. I am having problems booting win xp it tells me win did not start properly then I choose start normally then it shows progress bar then it goes to a black screen
[01:09] <Flannel> Norrz: alright, the a b c (hda hdb hdc, etc) are the disk numbers, a is the first, b second etc.  In GRUB-speak, we're zero indexed, so hda is hd0, hdb is hd1, etc.  As for partitions, hda1 is hd0,0 (because we're zero based), hda2 is hd0,1, etc.
[01:10] <Flannel> Norrz: If you only have one partition, how are you dual booting?
[01:10] <remoteCTRL> Ubuntu777: which is definitely a windows problem, you can try to run the windows cd and choose repair from the dialog
[01:11] <remoteCTRL> Ubuntu777: if you are lucky that fixes it for you
[01:11] <Norrz> Flannel. No I have 2 partitions. One is for windows, the other is for my data. When I first intsalled Ubuntu, I did partition a disk for it, but on the installation It didn't read it! and I didn't know how to deal with it, so I have been told to free some space, and choose the option to install on the most free space.
[01:11] <Ubuntu777> I don't a win xp cd. Win came installed
[01:12] <buahhaha> when i use cp in a script, it doesn't copy the files so that the output file has the correct filename
[01:12] <Jordan_U> buahhaha: Can you pastebin the script?
[01:12] <jrib> buahhaha: create a simple example and pastebin it
[01:12] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL in iwlist what you want?
[01:12] <jrib> Ubuntu777: ##windows may be able to help you with windows
[01:12] <Norrz> Flannel, but last time I was formatting my C ( windows ) I saw that there's also a 3rd partition in the formatting manager of XP. But if I go to my computer, I have ONLY 2 partitios..don't know much bout that.
[01:12] <hotmonkeyluv> How can I boot into runlevel 3? When I boot to runlevel 1, and do telinit3, it jumps me to the X login.
[01:13] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL in iwlist what you want?
[01:13] <Jordan_U> hotmonkeyluv: Just disable gdm from starting, upstart doesn't really have runlevels
[01:13] <jrib> hotmonkeyluv: runlevels 2-5 are identical.  What do you actually want to do?
[01:13] <Flannel> Norrz: Its entirely likely that windows won't see ext3 partitions
[01:13] <unop> Jordan_U, heh
[01:13] <unop> ?
[01:13] <Norrz> Flannel. Aha I see, well I don't know much about these stuff ;) so excuse my iggnorance.
[01:13] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: all of it pastet on www.nopaste.org
[01:14] <Norrz> :p
[01:14] <Flannel> Norrz: that's fine. So, you had two partitions (data and windows) and now you're reinstalling Ubuntu?
[01:14] <Ubuntu777> jrib you mean join ##windows chat
[01:14] <cbdalos> hey all, i'm trying to mount a usb drive through bash cuz it's not working automatically, it says error invalid mount option.... can anyone help?
[01:14] <hotmonkeyluv> jrib:  I want to get to runlevel 3 so that I can install the nvidia drivers
[01:14] <Jordan_U> unop: ?
[01:14] <jrib> Ubuntu777: yes
[01:14] <Flannel> hotmonkeyluv: just ctrl-alt-f1 and stop gdm
[01:14] <hotmonkeyluv> Jordan_U:  how do I do that
[01:14] <Ubuntu777> thanks
[01:14] <Flannel> hotmonkeyluv: no need to fiddle with runlevels
[01:14] <jrib> hotmonkeyluv: system -> administration -> restricted drivers manager
[01:14] <unop> hotmonkeyluv, just stop X
[01:14] <Norrz> Flannel. I had ( data and windows ) and then I installed ubuntu using the most free space option. And I used ubuntu for a while, then I had to reinstall XP. and after that, grub was gone.
[01:14] <hotmonkeyluv> jrib:  yeah, tried that, 45 times
[01:15] <hotmonkeyluv> Flannel:  thanks
[01:15] <Flannel> Norrz: did you overwrite Ubuntu with windows then? or are you sure all of your partitions are still there?  If you fire up a liveCD, you should be able to see all three.
[01:15] <jrib> hotmonkeyluv: so you need to tell the channel what happened...
[01:15] <cbdalos> hey all, i'm trying to mount a usb drive through bash cuz it's not working automatically, it says error invalid mount option.... can anyone help?
[01:15] <unop> Jordan_U, it was about your upstart statement .. but never mind
[01:16] <unop> cbdalos, how about showing us your command?
[01:16] <Norrz> Flannel. I am sure all I formatted is my C ( windows location, 43.5 GB ) - and as I have told you earlier, while I was doing that, I did recognize a third partition cant' remmeber the Letter, of the size Ubuntu.
[01:16] <hotmonkeyluv> unop:  what's the command to stop x?
[01:16] <cbdalos> unop, what do you mean? I dono the command for mounting...
[01:16] <rightlane> How do I open a console?
[01:16] <unop> hotmonkeyluv, sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[01:16] <Norrz> Ubuntu is still there, Flannel. sure about that...saw it too on the LiveCD.
[01:16] <nikitis> Question.  Is anyone really good at airflow design for computer cases?  I need some advice.
[01:16] <jrib> !terminal | rightlane
[01:16] <cbdalos> unop, and i can't use umount because it says fail to mount
[01:17] <buahhaha> I've tried to modify a playlist to a script that would copy those mp3s to a particular location and if the filenames are as "/my/mp3/collection/path/Some Artist - Some Song.mp3" /the/location/I/want/the/copies
[01:17] <jrib> nikitis: try ##hardware
[01:17] <Flannel> Norrz: Alright, that makes sense (the partitioner would see it as a partition, Windows explorer wont).  The instructions on that wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Overwriting%20the%20Windows%20bootloader  should get you all set up
[01:17] <nikitis> jrib, thanks
[01:17] <buahhaha> the result is a file called "?" there
[01:17] <raw> nikitis, are you greek ?
[01:17] <unop> cbdalos, try this first.  pmount /dev/sdXX  # (sdXX being your device)
[01:17] <maximal> br10ta10_: I couple more links http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=859614 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=834992
[01:17] <hotmonkeyluv> unop:  thank you thank you!
[01:17] <cbdalos> unop, k
[01:17] <jrib> buahhaha: that still tells us absolutely nothing about what exactly you are running
[01:17] <Norrz> Flannel. Okay mate thanks for your help. And uh? last question ( new ubuntu user here ) - it more likely that you have to reinsatll your OS like in Windows? that dies after 2/3 months :P.
[01:18] <buahhaha> so why is it possible to use cp from the command line and give the filename (since it has spaces) in quotation marks but not in a script - those seem to require an escape character instead
[01:18] <raw> ubuntu.. simply the best
[01:18] <unop> buahhaha, show us your script.;
[01:18] <Flannel> Norrz: No, you won't need to.  I've been running a single ubuntu install for over two years now.
[01:18] <unop> !pastebin > buahhaha
[01:18] <maximal> br10ta10_: I don't think the links solve the problem though.  It looks like you may need an updated driver or ndiswrapper.
[01:19] <jrib> raw: congratulations, you're my 100th quote
[01:19] <Norrz> Flannel. I see, that tells much about the constancy. Anyway, gonna run the Live CD and try what you gave ;). Thanks for your help...!
[01:19] <cbdalos> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so
[01:19] <cbdalos> that was my result unop
[01:19] <raw> jrib, haha
[01:19] <raw> :)
[01:19] <cbdalos> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so --------> that was my result unop
[01:19] <br10ta10_> maximal, ok. thanks again.
[01:19] <ian_> UBUNTU ROCCCKS!!! :P
[01:19] <unop> cbdalos,  do you know what filesystem on this device?
[01:19] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL http://nopaste.com/p/acsXhRv5E
[01:20] <raw> i agree ian_
[01:20] <unop> cbdalos, if at all it has one.
[01:20] <cbdalos> unop W95 FAT16 (LBA)
[01:20] <ian_> it plays world of warcraft better than windows xp :D
[01:20] <cbdalos> unop, that's the result i get in system when i run sudo fdisk -l
[01:20] <raw> am not playing games from 11. too bad for me :P
[01:20] <ian_> xD
[01:21] <ian_> yeah to bad :d
[01:21] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL you get it?
[01:21] <unop> cbdalos, sudo mount -t vfat -o uid=$UID,gid=${GID:-$UID} /dev/sdb1 /media/mount_point
[01:21] <ian_> i love it
[01:21] <cbdalos> unop, k thanks i'll try that
[01:21] <ian_> cya guys thx for the daily help :D
[01:21] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: Link Quality:0 this says yoou have no what so ver connection to a wireless access point dude
[01:21] <Rolaulten> Hello, somehow I am missing the "shutdown" and "restart" options from my shutdown gui (the commands still work vea terminal). for a screen shot of what my shutdown GUI looks like, http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3232/screenshotil8.png
[01:21] <slipttees> !paste
[01:21] <maximal> br10ta10_: time for me to go now - i'm in the UK and it's getting late
[01:21] <natnay1> hi, im running LAMP, with phpmyadmin, is there anyway i can create a database without going to command prompt?
[01:21] <slipttees> !paste
[01:21] <Jordan_U> Rolaulten: Are you logging in via GDM?
[01:21] <lauren4667> flannel:  hmm, i just tried sudo cp xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf and restarted X but to no avail, still started up in low graphics mode and gave me the config prompt.  I'll try some others. quikc question though, when i ran sudo cp xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf it didn't ask for my password.. is that because i had just cd'd as sudo?
[01:21] <lauren4667> or did it not work?
[01:22] <Rolaulten> Jorden_U: Yea, Im loged on in gnome
[01:22] <Flannel> lauren4667: well, cping with sudo doesn't do anything (or at least, not anything useful)
[01:22] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL ya i see
[01:22] <Flannel> lauren4667: but yes, sudo caches the password for five minutes
[01:22] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL after its 70%
[01:22] <prince_jammys> lauren4667: it's because you had just used sudo
[01:22] <unop> lauren4667, it worked if it didn't return any errors
[01:22] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: ESSID:off/any is off/any really the name of your network man? look i told you before you need to use your brains man...
[01:22] <lauren4667> thanks everyone
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Rolaulten: Through the GDM though? ( if you use startx then gnome won't have permission to restart )
[01:23] <cbdalos> unop i got /media/mount_point does not exist
[01:23] <lauren4667> Flannel: so, why doesn't it do anything useful?  i thought i had to use sudo to have permission to cp files in /etc
[01:23] <cbdalos> sudo mkdir /media/mount_point ????
[01:23] <Guest77048> remote wait
[01:23] <unop> cbdalos, right
[01:23] <lauren4667> i'm afraid i'm very confused
[01:23] <cbdalos> unop, sweet bro, gimme a sec
[01:24] <USERNAME> hey guys
[01:24] <cbdalos> unop, thanks dude! haha worked
[01:24] <USERNAME> hey
[01:24] <Jordan_U> buahhaha: Did you figure out what was wrong with your script?
[01:24] <Flannel> lauren4667: just cd with... regular permissions.  sudo does *one* command, so "sudo cp /whereever" will change directories, and then exit, and you'll be back in your same directory.
[01:24] <USERNAME> is this game zday fun?
[01:24] <Rolaulten> Jorden_U: As far as I know when I log in its vea gnome... and Ive not played around with different things to draw my windows
[01:24] <USERNAME> -_-
[01:24] <USERNAME> guys!
[01:25] <USERNAME> is zday fun?
[01:25] <Flannel> USERNAME: Please take non-support topics to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:25] <USERNAME> ...
[01:25] <lauren4667> Flannel: but sudo cp source-file-aka-backup-iwant-to-try destination-file   should have replace xorg.conf with the backup, right? sorry to be so dense
[01:26] <Flannel> lauren4667: sorry, I meant cd, not cp.
[01:26] <prince_jammys> you can't cd with sudo anyway, not without invoking a shell
[01:26] <Flannel> lauren4667: yes, sudo cp file1 file2 works fine.
[01:26] <unop> Flannel, sudo cd /somewhere  will fail
[01:26] <Flannel> unop: Indeed it will.
[01:26] <jrib> buahhaha: do you understand what you need to do so we can help you?
[01:27] <Rolaulten> Jorden_U: Do you perchance know were the file is to edit the options for that window (so I can add the commands for shutdown and restart back in)
[01:27] <Jordan_U> Rolaulten: No, sorry
[01:27] <psychotherapist> is there a way to sniff telephone landlines ?
[01:27] <prince_jammys> stick your nose real close
[01:28] <jrib> psychotherapist: not the appropriate channel...
[01:28] <psychotherapist> what is jrib ?
[01:28] <buahhaha> uh, I'm not sure what I need to understand? I got your pm but my script is full of lines that only differ as far as the filename is concerned
[01:28] <jrib> psychotherapist: I don't know.
[01:28] <unop> Flannel, did you mean cd here?  sudo cp /whereever
[01:28] <Rolaulten> Jorden_U: Ok, if nothing else the terminal commands still work...lol
[01:28] <Flannel> psychotherapist: this question is for Ubuntu related questions, please keep it ontopic
[01:28] <Flannel> unop: I did.  Notice I said cd earlier in the line, and also a few lines earlier.
[01:28] <psychotherapist> is there a way on ubuntu to sniff telephone lines
[01:28] <buahhaha> the lines are simply cp /my/mp3/collection/Some Song.mp3"  thedirectoryinwhichiwantthem
[01:28] <jrib> buahhaha: we have no idea what you are doing.  You need to pastebin the script and the file that it is using so we can see it
[01:28] <USERNAME> hey can someone help me?
[01:29] <lauren4667> Flannel: ok, phew..  so, it appears xorg.conf.1 didn't work, and i went on to try the next one.  after trying xorg.conf.1 i did cntrl alt backspace to restart X, no difference, then rebooted, but still it started in low graphics mode and gave me the configuration options.
[01:29] <unop> Flannel, sudo cd /wherever  cannot possible do anything as cd is not an external command
[01:29] <unop> s/possible/possibly/
[01:29] <Flannel> unop: Thats what I said.
[01:29] <rightlan1> Ok, I opened the terminal and type the command line you gave me.  It shut down and started back up, but i still have only 600x800 as the highest resolution settings available to me.  Is this possible due to my having booted from CD instead of installing?
[01:29] <USERNAME> hello someone help me...
[01:29] <USERNAME> okease
[01:29] <USERNAME> please
[01:29] <buahhaha> i've just tried to make an absolutely trivial copying script by search and replacing a playlist
[01:29] <woli> !help
[01:29] <lauren4667> Flannel: then i went on to try the next backup file, but now i'm anxious that i've overwritten xorg.conf.1
[01:29] <Flannel> USERNAME: please ask your question, and keep it on topic.
[01:29] <woli> crap..
[01:29] <buahhaha> and the filenames constitute the problem since they have spaces
[01:30] <unop> Flannel, errm.  what should i infer from this?   so "sudo cp /whereever" will change directories, and then exit, ...
[01:30] <USERNAME> someone ffs help!
[01:30] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: are you quoting the paths that have spaces?
[01:30] <Maarekstele> anyone having trouble installing Flex Builder Alpha?
[01:30] <elkbuntu> USERNAME, you've not yet indicated with what
[01:30] <buahhaha> yes, the paths are with spaces
[01:30] <lauren4667> Flannel: should i undo and make a .broken of that too?  or can you not undo in the cl..
[01:30] <jrib> buahhaha: you aren't listening.  You need to actually show us the script, not describe it to us
[01:30] <USERNAME> omfg!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:30] <Jordan_U> unop: He was trying to explain to someone else why sudo cd would not work, you just caught the tail end of that conversation
[01:30] <USERNAME> how i download this game!
[01:30] <woli> when i gnome-terminal -e <my executable> there is an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[01:30] <buahhaha> it's very, very long, simply lines like this:
[01:30] <Flannel> unop: I was disregarding the fact that technically wouldn't work, in favor of explaining why the concept of cd in a sudo shell was a useless command.
[01:30] <jrib> buahhaha: that's ok, use paste.ubuntu.com
[01:31] <Flannel> unop: If you read the full conversation, you'll see.
[01:31] <unop> Flannel, it's more than useless -- sudo would fail with   "sudo: cd: command not fount"
[01:31] <Flannel> unop: That's *not* the point, and this is offtopic.
[01:31] <unop> s/fount/found/
[01:31] <buahhaha> cp "/media/sda4/mp3sall/mp3/Ace of Base - Always Have, Always Will.mp3" copymp3sanddeletethen/
[01:31] <buahhaha> cp "/media/sda4/mp3sall/mp3/Ace of Base - Cruel Summer (Big Bonus Mix).mp3" copymp3sanddeletethen/
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> Ace of Base?...lol
[01:32] <buahhaha> a few hundred lines like that since I just want to copy the files in a certain playlist to a different directory
[01:32] <buahhaha> and obviously that works from the command line
[01:32] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: and what happens instead?
[01:32] <jrib> buahhaha: great, use paste.ubuntu.com to show us what happens when you run it
[01:32] <buahhaha> in copymp3sanddeletethen/ I get one file called "?"
[01:32] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: what editor did you use to write it?
[01:32] <buahhaha> kate
[01:32] <buahhaha> and nano
[01:32] <prince_jammys> ok
[01:33] <jrib> buahhaha: how are you running it?
[01:33] <Flannel> lauren4667: You've copied xorg.conf.1 to xorg.conf, it still exists in xorg.conf.1, all you need to do is cp xorg.conf.backup to xorg.conf and try that one.  Unless you've accidentally overwritten xorg.conf.1
[01:33] <buahhaha> first chmod a+x
[01:33] <buahhaha> and then simply ./thescript
[01:33] <buahhaha> I've tried sh thescript too but it didn't make any difference
[01:33] <jrib> buahhaha: and copymp3sanddeletethen/ is a subdirectory of your current working directory?
[01:33] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: do this: cat -e thescript and paste a sample line here
[01:34] <prince_jammys> everything you say suggests a carriage return, though it makes no sense if you use kate
[01:34] <buahhaha> yes copymp3sanddeletethen/ is a subdirectory of the one with the script but i've tried with the full pathname too
[01:34] <lauren4667> Flannel:  ahh right.  ok.  that makes sense suddenly.  I seem to have some command line anxiety.  hopefully one day i'll get past that ; )
[01:35] <buahhaha> and I now tried with escape characters instead of quotes but the result is the same
[01:35] <Norrz> Flannel, Thanks mate. It worked ;) - But I want to ask you something, and this happened even before I reinstalled XP. On the Grub loader I have 2 Ubuntu, and 2 Ubuntu Recovery, and 1 Ubuntu xxxx.x :P and sure the XP. My Ubuntu display doubled once BEFORE when I added new rams to my desktop ( Or I am wrong ). But anyway...how can I get to fix that?
[01:35] <Flannel> lauren4667: It'll happen, don't worry.
[01:35] <jrib> buahhaha: try what prince_jammys suggested
[01:35] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: cat -e thescript   and paste a sample line here.
[01:35] <woli> my executable creates a file that is supposed to go beside it, but when i run it from a desktop launcher, it creates the file @home
[01:36] <falemant> yo
[01:36] <rightlan1> I brand new and don't know anything about it yet.  I booted from disk without installing Ubuntu and the highest resolution available to me is 600x800.  Can I improve this while booting from the disk without installing Ubuntu to hard drive?
[01:36] <buahhaha> the result of cat -e is interesting, a sample line: cp /media/sda4/mp3sall/mp3/Phil\ Collins\ -\ Two\ Hearts.mp3 copymp3sanddeletethen/^M$
[01:36] <falemant> i tried to boot ubuntu after the install,  and it says there is no operating system on my drive
[01:36] <slipttees> i have problem with xorg 7.3 :S
[01:36] <mgolisch> woli: mostliky the program creates the file in the current working doirectory
[01:36] <falemant> wtf does this mean?
[01:36] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: carriage return.
[01:37] <Jordan_U> rightlan1: Possibly, what GFX card?
[01:37] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL you still here friend
[01:37] <buahhaha> what should I do to get rid of it?
[01:37] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: see the ^M , thats a carriage return used in windows line-endings
[01:37] <falemant> Jordan_U: it's ubuntu_ from yesterday
[01:37] <rightlan1> 6700
[01:37] <falemant> i have fixedsome oldproblems andnow have new problems
[01:37] <mgolisch> falemant: it means there is nothing in the masterboot record of the disk you try to boot from
[01:37] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: unfortunately i am:)
[01:37] <falemant> mgolisch: can  you explain a little bit more?
[01:37] <Jordan_U> falemant: Did you get grub installed?
[01:38] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: so you are copying the files to a file name '\r'  (carriage return), which ls shows as '?'
[01:38] <Guest77048> http://nopaste.com/p/aUag7FxE3
[01:38] <falemant> i got grub installed
[01:38] <woli> mgolisch, how do i change it?
[01:38] <falemant> i installed it on the disk where my ubuntu install is
[01:38] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL http://nopaste.com/p/aUag7FxE3
[01:38] <falemant> instead of the master boot record
[01:38] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: tr -d '\r' <thescript >newcopy
[01:38] <slipttees> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10) => work only 800x600@76 vesa driver :-( i need help there please!
[01:38] <mgolisch> falemant: either grub failed to install into the mbr or you have multiple disks and grub got installed in the wrong disk
[01:38] <falemant> mgolisch: i have multiple disks
[01:38] <falemant> i put grub on the disk where my root install is
[01:38] <falemant> instead of the master boot record
[01:39] <Jordan_U> falemant: What problem are you trying to fix now?
[01:39] <falemant> i booted from the drive where my install/grub is
[01:39] <falemant> and it said operating system not found
[01:39] <mgolisch> falemant: so you installed grub into the bootsektor of a partition?
[01:39] <falemant> yea i did
[01:39] <woli> oh that happened to me once...
[01:39] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: after you do that, cat -e thescript and you should no longer see ^M
[01:39] <Pelo> anyone know why opening "The Gimp" makes my gnome-panel disapear ? I have metacity compoziting enable if that helps
[01:39] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL see now?
[01:39] <mgolisch> how do you think thats gona work if there is no bootloader in the mbr thats going to chainload the partition bootsektor?
[01:39] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: now we are talking! you got your iop address there now you are connected
[01:39] <woli> mgolisch, how do i change the working path of an application?
[01:40] <Spasysheep> @falemant try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[01:40] <mgolisch> woli: if you change to the diretory of the executable then run it, is the file created there?
[01:40] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL realy?
[01:40] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL i can go to internet
[01:40] <woli> the file is created at home
[01:40] <Spasysheep> hi joe
[01:40] <master_> hi
[01:40] <mgolisch> woli: even if you cd to the executable dir first and run it from there?
[01:40] <master_> all room
[01:41] <mgolisch> woli: how exactly do you create that file?
[01:41] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: how does that guy always say? yes you can
[01:41] <woli> is that i'm doing it from a launcher in the desktop
[01:41] <woli> mgolisch, if i run it from the directory where the app is, it works fine
[01:41] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL i cant ...
[01:41] <LimCore> how to have user foo to become root (su) without entering root password - when ever given USB key (with proper key file) is inserted into the box (and perhaps ask one time for a short passhprase and cahe that)
[01:41] <Maarekstele> nvm, I had the incorrect JAVA installed
[01:41] <lauren4667> Flannel:  hmm, i've tried them all and the resolution is still wonky
[01:41] <master_> ı have dvr card ı need for this card driver
[01:41] <woli> mgolisch, i would like to cd into the directory, gnome-terminal -e <myapp> all in one launcher...
[01:42] <woli> can i do that?
[01:42] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: now why is that?
[01:42] <woli> well, i think i might want to do it from a batch script, and launch that
[01:42] <Guest77048> remotectrl say me you
[01:42] <mgolisch> woli: so thats the problem, i guess the starter doesnt do/support that, write a start shellscript that does whatever you need before actualy starting the app, i dont know of a better way
[01:42] <user_> is there an nvidia channel?
[01:43] <bigsniperboy> ive got a really newb question, how do i install drivers for my fa311 netgear eithernet card on ubuntu
[01:43] <Pelo> user_,  #nvidia
[01:43] <Dimitrov> Flannel, please do not pm me anymore either
[01:43] <Guest77048> remotectrl im tired ....
[01:43] <Pelo> bigsniperboy, isn'T it already supported ?
[01:43] <Pelo> bigsniperboy, if it isn'T ,  check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and do a search in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:44] <basti> is there a way, to load this (http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/How_to_include_FATX_support_in_a_regular_Linux_kernel) as a modul into the kernel without having to compile a new one?
[01:44] <user_> Pelo, found it...
[01:44] <woli> mgolisch, yes, i'm doing it... using a .sh as a windows .bat
[01:44] <woli> will it work that way?
[01:44] <Dimitrov> Flannel, Please stop sending me PM's!
[01:44] <bigsniperboy> i dont know, i put it in the comp and started it up, and its not working
[01:44] <buahhaha> prince_jammys, thanks! it works now (apart from some upper/lower case mess since it's a very old winamp playlist)
[01:45] <mgolisch> woli: ?
[01:45] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: did you read the filenames off a winamp playlist?
[01:45] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: well me too dude... as said you have at least aconnection to your wifi access point, do ping 192.168.2.1 to verfiy that
[01:45] <user_> Noone in nvidia is around... does anyone know why i can't enable nvidia binaries properly?  I've tried manually installing them running nvidia-xconfig etc. etc. but nothing seems to work, installed restricted modules.... did I install for the wrong kernel?
[01:45] <bigsniperboy> okay it says that its supported, how do i use it
[01:45] <woli> mgolisch, i made a .sh file ( i gues that it is like a windows .bat <batch executable>
[01:45] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: because that could do it. otherwise, you must have used a windows text editor somewhere along the way.
[01:45] <bigsniperboy> im really new to ubuntu sorry
[01:45] <mgolisch> woli: yeah that should work out
[01:45] <Pelo> user_, what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[01:46] <woli> mgolisch, i get permission denied....
[01:46] <bigsniperboy> me?
[01:46] <user_> Pelo, i just upgraded through a huge chain from 6.10 to 8.4 today
[01:46] <Dimitrov> Pelo, im trying to set up an alternative nick and hes pming me about nickspamming. I have been in freenode trying to get an alternate nick setup
[01:46] <Pelo> user_, actualy , join me in #nvidia , better place for it
[01:46] <user_> Pelo, done
[01:46] <bigsniperboy> okay it says that its supported, how do i use it
[01:46] <lolufail> hello everyone!
[01:46] <Dimitrov> Pelo, i am not nick spamming.
[01:46] <mgolisch> woli: yeah you didnt set the executable bit on the file
[01:46] <Pelo> Dimitrov, get disconnected from freenode , and then join under your new nick
[01:46] <Schmex`> Flannel :| - When I try to enter my Ubuntu through GRUB. It says cannot mount volume! Press any key to continue! and doesn't run!
[01:47] <bigsniperboy> okay it says that its supported, how do i use it
[01:47] <woli> mgolisch, how do i make that?
[01:47] <Guest77048> remotectrl the ping says destination host unrecheable
[01:47] <Dimitrov> Pelo, why?
[01:47] <mgolisch> woli: do something like chmod a+x myshellscript
[01:47] <lolufail> anybody have experience with generating custom initramdisks? I need support for lvm, crypt (luks), and md-raid!
[01:47] <Pelo> Dimitrov, that way you won'T have two active nicks
[01:47] <buahhaha> yes, it was a playlist I made with winamp ages ago (as a teenager, thus Ace of Base etc. garbage)
[01:48] <Dimitrov> I dont see what that has to do with me being in freenode and setting up nicks
[01:48] <bigsniperboy> can someone tell me how to use my wired eithernet card?
[01:48] <buahhaha> but it worked in xmms so I thought it was fine to use like that (apart from the upper lower case problems)
[01:48] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: doesnt it work allready? unless its some exotic hardware it should work out of the box
[01:48] <Rockwellgump> i am trying to install ubuntu on a computer that has Vista as its current OS, when i restart the computer to boot from ubuntu install disc it starts up vista automatically
[01:48] <Schmex`> Hi I have just recovered my Grub, but when I try to enter Ubuntu. It says cannot mount volume, fromt he GRUB BOOT LOADER!
[01:49] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: to be honest i am to tired to struggle on dude, maybe somone else can take over from here; you are connected to your router otherwise you wouldn't have an ip address and your link quality is 79% so maybe it's the encryption or something
[01:49] <woli> mgolisch, now it runs, but i don't see results
[01:49] <bigsniperboy> ok
[01:49] <woli> mgolisch, now it works without the chmod.... i guess i changed the folder/file permissions...
[01:49] <mgolisch> Rockwellgump: change the bios boot order to have the cd drive before any harddisks
[01:50] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: do you run ubuntu(gnome)?
[01:50] <woli> mgolisch, totally fixed.. thanks
[01:50] <bigsniperboy> brb
[01:50] <Schmex`> Anyone please? It says cannot mount volume when I enter Ubuntu through GRUB.
[01:50] <Rockwellgump> mgolisch: how do i change the bios boot order? is that where i press f10?
[01:51] <mgolisch> Rockwellgump: mostlikely, i dont know your computer
[01:51] <Schmex`> mgolisch? Can you help?
[01:51] <Rockwellgump> mgolisch: thanks
[01:51] <mgolisch> Rockwellgump: it usualy prints pres SOME_KEY for setup or so
[01:52] <mgolisch> Schmex`: where exactly does it say that?
[01:52] <mgolisch> Schmex`: when you try to boot an entry in the grub menu?
[01:52] <Schmex`> mgolisch, when I boot! On the boot list menu.
[01:52] <Schmex`> yes.
[01:52] <mgolisch> Schmex`: ok then mostlikely the root statement in this entry is wrong
[01:52] <Schmex`> mgolisch, btw, I just recovered it, after being wipe from XP reinstalation.
[01:53] <Schmex`> mgolisch, then this has to do with the volume I installed grub on? o.O ?
[01:54] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: i am ubuntu 8.4
[01:54] <mgolisch> Schmex`: no idea i dont know you setup, can you bootup the livecd and come back here? maybe we can try to find out whats wrong and fix that
[01:54] <Schmex`> mgolisch, I typed this find /boot/grub/stage1 - and it gave me h(0,4)
[01:54] <buahhaha> damn! ubuntu works better than I had hoped, it mounted my phone as a memory card without any problems :)
[01:54] <Rockwellgump> mgolisch: okay i am at "edit boot options" and it sais partition: 1, and hard disc: eae7278c. then below that it sais something like /NONEXECUTE=OPTION
[01:54] <Schmex`> mgolisch, and after that I setup (hd0)
[01:54] <woli> is not there like a %PATH% in ubuntu?
[01:54] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL i can do ping
[01:54] <Schmex`> mgolisch, and it says installed!
[01:55] <Schmex`> mgolisch, I mean I follwed the steps on the link for recovery.
[01:55] <bigsniperboy> i just need step by step on how to use this card
[01:55] <prince_jammys> woli: there's a PATH variable, if that's what you mean.
[01:55] <woli> yes
[01:55] <woli> prince_jammys, how can i add a directory to it?
[01:55] <andrewaclt> How do you change/remove the gnome-panel icon? I tried removing start-here.png and distributor-logo.png but the icon remains. I'd rather have the gnome foot.
[01:55] <prince_jammys> woli: for your personal scripts?
[01:55] <bigsniperboy> i just need step by step on how to use this card
[01:55] <woli> yes sir
[01:55] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL 64 bytes from 169.254.7.110 icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time 0,043
[01:56] <jscinoz> hi guys
[01:56] <bigsniperboy> woli, sorry i didnt mean that to sound rude
[01:56] <prince_jammys> woli: the traditional way is to put them in a 'bin' directory in your home. look at the file '.profile' in your home to see how another path can be added
[01:56] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: well that is a completely diffren ip adress now and god that you get a response from it that means you made it!
[01:56] <mgolisch> Schmex`: in the grub menu, pres e on one entry then press e again on the line which says root (hdX,X) and change that ro read root (hd0,4) then esc and press b
[01:56] <woli> bigsniperboy, what thing?
[01:57] <bigsniperboy> im setting up a fa311 eithernet card
[01:57] <Schmex`> aha mgolisch, thanks..I'll try that.
[01:57] <bigsniperboy> and i am very new to ubuntu
[01:57] <buahhaha> prince_jammys, thanks once again for your help, gotta go
[01:57] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL ya but still dont have internet
[01:57] <prince_jammys> woli: if you create a /home/woli/bin , scripts in there will be in your path once you log back in.
[01:57] <prince_jammys> buahhaha: welcome
[01:57] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL -_-
[01:57] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: so again its a wired ethernetcard?
[01:57] <bigsniperboy> yes
[01:58] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: and do you have dhcp in your network?
[01:58] <jscinoz> i have a sparse 100gb disk image (created with dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/file bs=1M count=0 seek=100000) which has a LUKS ext3 filesystem in it, this set up works perfectly, but its a bit of a pain mounting it (3 commands are needed: losetup /dev/loop1 /path/to/img; cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/loop1 something; and finally mount /dev/mapper/something mountpoint) i'm wondering if an easy program exists to automate these 3 steps?
[01:58] <bigsniperboy> i dont know what that is
[01:58] <estropajo> holaaaaaaaa
[01:58] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: well that can't be that big of a problem
[01:58] <scifiguy951> whats good all?
[01:58] <scifiguy951> can someone help me with nmap command line?
[01:58] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: do you have a router? then mostlikely dhcp is enabled there, it means computers dont need to staticaly get assigned ip addresses but get those from the router
[01:59] <estropajo> does any one have idea about how to install wireless card in the ASUS EEEPC 900?
[01:59] <bigsniperboy> oh ok, ya i got a router, a dlink
[01:59] <mgolisch> jscinoz: write a shellscript?
[01:59] <jscinoz> mgolisch, yeah i will try that in a second, also was wondering if there is any way to do this without root, ie FUSE perhaps?
[02:00] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: ok first does ifconfig output show any devices? something like eth0 or eth1 or so
[02:00] <scifiguy951> whats a good way to learn C C+?
[02:00] <scifiguy951> any good apps?
[02:00] <outbriber> scifiguy951: what do you need in nmap?
[02:00] <pingu_> Hallo. Does somebody know if it's a better way to keep a HDD NTFS and shred it and after it format it to ext3 or the other way round?
[02:01] <woli> prince_jammys, does that method (.profile) require reboot ?
[02:01] <Flannel> pingu_: shred it first, as shred will destroy any filesystem.
[02:01] <scrup> hey folks... when i boot unbuntu once i get past grub my monitor kicks out saying that it cant display the resolution (monitor is native 1280x1024) but comes back once the GUI loads... how can i change the boot resolution to something else (say 800x600) so i can get my boot screen back???
[02:01] <nickgarvey> pingu_: what do you mean?  what would provide a better of destroying data?
[02:01] <pingu_> yes
[02:01] <prince_jammys> woli: no, just re-login
[02:01] <scifiguy951> i have a laptop connected to the router i am connected to, i wanted to try to log on to it. from this pc.
[02:01] <Flannel> pingu_: shred /dev/whatever (probably with appropriate options, unless you want 25 passes)
[02:01] <woli> uh ok
[02:01] <pingu_> and faster, more secure?
[02:01] <USERNAME> hey can someone help me?
[02:01] <Flannel> USERNAME: please stop.
[02:01] <remoteCTRL> Guest77048: what happens if you enter 69.63.178.11 into your browser instead of an url?
[02:01] <nickgarvey> pingu_: no sure what else you'd need after shred, just poke around the man file and I'm sure your drive will be in decent order
[02:01] <Rockwellgump> mgolisch: okay i am at "edit boot options" and it sais partition: 1, and hard disc: eae7278c. then below that it sais something like /NONEXECUTE=OPTION
[02:02] <USERNAME> hey how i download zday?!?!?!?!?!
[02:02] <mgolisch> Rockwellgump: in your bios?
[02:02] <pingu_> so i dont need to format to ext3 befor shreding?
[02:02] <bigsniperboy> mgolish: what do i do next
[02:02] <scifiguy951> what about ip masking to?
[02:02] <pingu_> thought shred might be not good for Windows-file format
[02:02] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: did it display anything?
[02:02] <outbriber> scifiguy951: I'm rather confused as to what you want/who you're asking, etc. Please be a bit clearer.
[02:03] <nickgarvey> pingu_: shred doesn't care what file system it is, it just shreds it
[02:03] <dewdrop> Does anyone know where I can get help with Xorg.conf . Installed ATI card and loads up to a white screen,  Not sure if the Xorg.conf is where the problem is.
[02:03] <Flannel> pingu_: shred just writes data, ignores any sort of formatting
[02:03] <bigsniperboy> what do i do for it to display something, i rebooted the comp after putting it in
[02:03] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: please write my nick correctly so i get highlighted if you say something to me, otherwise its quite hard to follow in big channels like that one here
[02:03] <pingu_> but why the CAUTION in manual?
[02:03] <bigsniperboy> oh ok sorry
[02:04] <estropajo> let me try...
[02:04] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: if you open a terminal and write ifconfig -a [enter] does it display something like eth1 or eth0
[02:04] <mgolisch> ?
[02:04] <estropajo> hey mgolisch
[02:04] <prince_jammys> scifiguy951: this is a pretty good start: www.crasseux.com/books/ctutorial/
[02:04] <radeon>  aloo
[02:04] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL i have did a restart and now not appear my card network
[02:04] <radeon> i new hare
[02:04] <KRF> bigsniperboy, mgo<TAB>
[02:04] <Guest77048> remoteCTRL this is a big shit
[02:04] <Flannel> pingu_: That's only if you're doing it on an actual file, not a device.
[02:04] <estropajo> mgolisch
[02:04] <pingu_> shred manual says FS systems and ext3 might be not good
[02:04] <Flannel> Guest77048: please watch the language.
[02:04] <pingu_> aaah
[02:04] <mgolisch> estropajo: :)
[02:04] <pingu_> ok, Flannel
[02:04] <scifiguy951> ok
[02:04] <LimCore> how to have user foo to become root (su) without entering root password - when ever given USB key (with proper key file) is inserted into the box (and perhaps ask one time for a short passhprase and cahe that)
[02:05] <radeon> i want to install theme to my pc
[02:05] <estropajo> wow!!! je je.... yeah! it works
[02:05] <radeon> but how
[02:05] <prince_jammys> scifiguy951: for C. i think there's some C++ documentation available through apt.
[02:05] <radeon> :'(
[02:05] <radeon> exit
[02:05] <scrup> when i boot unbuntu once i get past grub my monitor kicks out saying that it cant display the resolution (monitor is native 1280x1024) but comes back once the GUI loads... how can i change the boot resolution to something else (say 800x600) so i can get my boot screen back???
[02:06] <estropajo> how to say? GNU? or GNU/Linux?
[02:06] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: no it shows loop back
[02:06] <prince_jammys> estropajo: depends on what you want to say ;)
[02:06] <scifiguy951> outbriber: yoo
[02:06] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: nothing else? then you card is not working atm
[02:06] <outbriber> scifiguy951: yeah. ;) so what did you need in nmap?
[02:06] <estropajo> but I would like to know what really is GNU
[02:06] <pingu_> Another question: Wouldnt it be a good solution to format throughout all file systems gParted let me?
[02:07] <unop> estropajo, depends .. you can use the GNU system with other kernels too . then you would call those setups GNU/Hurd, GNU/kFreeBSD, etc ..
[02:07] <estropajo> does it have openoffice ? i.e.
[02:07] <scifiguy951> command line
[02:07] <pingu_> to make it impossible to restore something
[02:07] <pingu_> like making the HDD crazy with all these formattings?
[02:07] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: can you please execute the following commands in a terminal? sudo apt-get install pastebinit   and after that please du lspci|pastebinit   and paste the resulting url in here
[02:07] <scifiguy951> outbriber: command line
[02:07] <woli> prince_jammys, i have no success
[02:07] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: ups you dont have internet scratsch that
[02:07] <mgolisch> :)
[02:07] <prince_jammys> woli: can you show the line you used?
[02:08] <scifiguy951> outbriber: i want to log onto a laptop from this comp
[02:08] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: anyways type lspci in a terminal and tell me what it lists for ethernet controler
[02:08] <woli> prince_jammys, the file name appears in the Alt-F2 dialog, but with a .desktop next to it, and it doesn;t run
[02:08] <scifiguy951> outbriber: via router
[02:08] <woli> prince_jammys, where?
[02:08] <unop> estropajo, GNU typically consists of the software made the GNU project/FSF .. and openoffice is not one of them, i don't think
[02:08] <mgolisch> Rockwellgump: did you figure out how to change the boot order?
[02:08] <prince_jammys> woli: wait, what file name?
[02:08] <outbriber> scifiguy951: To log onto another computer, you need ssh.
[02:08] <woli> prince_jammys, a launcher
[02:08] <prince_jammys> woli: so why do you want to change your PATH?
[02:09] <caveman26> I need a fortran program for linux, want to get back into coding... any suggestiuns?
[02:09] <scifiguy951> outbriber: synaptic?
[02:09] <woli> prince_jammys, i just want a way to launch my app from the alt-f2
[02:09] <pingu_> Not a nice idea formatting through all file formats?
[02:09] <tvn2> is there a gui app for setting up alarm ?
[02:09] <prince_jammys> woli: does it launch when you type filename.desktop ?
[02:09] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: its not showing an eithernet controller
[02:09] <prince_jammys> woli: wait, desktop files aren't executable
[02:09] <outbriber> scifiguy951: ssh is installed by default on ubuntu machines. You run it from the command line like this: ssh user@ipaddress
[02:09] <estropajo> what should be the best place to install eeebuntu? is it recommended that I install it in the internal SSD memory (4Gb)?
[02:10] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: is it a usb adapter? or pcmcia/pccard?
[02:10] <unop> !info gfortran > caveman26
[02:10] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: pccard
[02:10] <estropajo> or better in the additional SSD memory (16Gb)
[02:10] <estropajo> ?
[02:10] <scifiguy951> outbriber: how do i get the ip and usernames?
[02:10] <caveman26> ty
[02:10] <woli> prince_jammys, which are desktop files?
[02:10] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: you actualy have a laptop which doesnt have an builtin ethernet port? lol how old is that thing?
[02:10] <woli> prince_jammys, and no.. it doesn't launch
[02:10] <mgolisch> :)
[02:11] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: no, its a desktop
[02:11] <mgolisch> so its a pci card or what?
[02:11] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: sorry its a pci card
[02:11] <mgolisch> desktops ususaly dont have pcmcia
[02:11] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: ya, i feel stupid
[02:11] <prince_jammys> woli: what does the Exec=blahblah line of the that file look like?
[02:11] <unop> caveman26, there are a few other fortran compilers available. see http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=exactfilename&searchon=names&keywords=fortran
[02:11] <estropajo> I read something that ASUS EEE PC SSD memory has short lifetime
[02:11] <outbriber> scifiguy951: To get the ip, one way is to point your web browser to whatismyip.com. The username is just whatever you have set on there. Is the other computer running ubuntu/linux?
[02:11] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: very strange and lspci doesnt list it?
[02:11] <estropajo> is it true?
[02:11] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: no
[02:12] <bigsniperboy> i didnt install anything on it
[02:12] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: should i
[02:12] <scifiguy951> outbriber: no, i think its winXP
[02:12] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: this usualy means linux doesnt see it all, that might be why its not working
[02:12] <estropajo> where should I install eeebuntu in my Asus?
[02:12] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: oh, what should i do
[02:12] <woli> prince_jammys, this is the thing: I have a launcher--which i suppose is included in PATH--that launches (perfectly) a bash script, that will run an executable with a certain directory as workpath
[02:12] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: ive got linux drivers for it, but idk how to use them
[02:13] <woli> prince_jammys, note that the launcher achieves what i want when double-clicke
[02:13] <woli> d
[02:13] <estropajo> any idea about eeebuntu?
[02:13] <prince_jammys> woli: the GUI is opening it
[02:13] <estropajo> specially with an Asus EEEPC 900
[02:13] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: the problem is the linux kernel doesnt see the card, there must be something wrong, ie its plugged into shared agp/pci port something
[02:13] <woli> prince_jammys, what do you mean?
[02:13] <estropajo> I don't know where should I install  it
[02:13] <mgolisch> +or
[02:13] <prince_jammys> woli: open the launcher with a text editor and find the line that says 'exec='
[02:13] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: should i shut it dow and put it in another port?
[02:14] <outbriber> scifiguy951: You can log onto that using VNC. It will require a bit more setup. vncviwer should be on your ubuntu machine, you'll need to install UltraVNC or the like on the XP machine and set up a password. With VNC you actually see what is on the other computer's screen, but it is quite a bit slower than ssh.
[02:14] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: yeah try that
[02:14] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: ok one sec, btw thanks for the help
[02:14] <woli> prince_jammys, ok
[02:14] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: no problem
[02:14] <prince_jammys> woli: the launcher has information that your desktop environment uses, such as the icon file, and where to find the executable file.
[02:14] <estropajo> is it possible to use more than two monitors with ubuntu?
[02:15] <estropajo> I mean, at the seam time
[02:15] <woli> prince_jammys, gnome-terminal -e "/home/wolter/.Password\\ Manager/launcher.sh"
[02:15] <estropajo> same time
[02:15] <mgolisch> estropajo: most grafics cards dont support that
[02:15] <dewdrop> ﻿Can someone look at my xorg.conf to see if they see a problem? Installed radeon card and loads up to aa white screen. http://paste.ubuntu.com/42039/
[02:16] <tim167> what is a compatible applet for playing video on a website? the only thing that seems to work is FLASH, cortado does not work.. any suggestions ? thanks!
[02:16] <estropajo> mgolisch, but is it possible? I have seen few examples about that in youtube.com but only with two monitors at the same time
[02:17] <prince_jammys> woli: great. here's the easy way: create a directory called 'bin' in your home. then create a file that has that has two lines: #!/bin/sh  and the second line is the command you just pasted. put that file in the bin directory.
[02:17] <lauren4667> Flannel:  I think maybe I need to edit the xorg.conf file.  none of the backups seemed to work.  i read this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813544 - which has me feeling rather hopeless.  Should I do as one user suggested and move the xorg.conf file to another directory and restart X?  or will that make things worse?
[02:17] <gkffjcs_> woli: it's actually better to put it in /usr/local/bin
[02:17] <mgolisch> estropajo: i think it is, but i never done that, it might work using multiple graphics cards
[02:18] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: its starting up now
[02:18] <outbriber> estropajo: I run dual screens in ubuntu, over a single dual output dvi card
[02:18] <Flannel> lauren4667: well, you've already got backups, so you don't need to move, just delete. But yes, as of Hardy we've got fancy automagical detection stuff
[02:18] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: ok
[02:18] <andrewaclt> Does anybody know how to remove the ubuntu icon from gnome panel? I tried changing start-here.png and distributor-logo.png in /usr/share/icons/Human/22x22.
[02:18] <Ashfire908> Is there a way to tell what processes are accessing the harddrive?
[02:18] <prince_jammys> gkffjcs_: the command involves his home dir. /usr/local/bin is for all users.
[02:18] <gkffjcs_> woli: sorry, he's right
[02:18] <gkffjcs_> yeah, sorry prince_jammys
[02:18] <estropajo> yeah! but I havent found references of a motherboard that has more than one pci-e slot
[02:18] <andrewaclt> Ashfire908, lsof
[02:18] <woli> gkffjcs_, ok np; prince_jammys, with what file extension?
[02:19] <prince_jammys> woli: none
[02:19] <mika_videodev> Hi! Isn't there source packages at all in Ubuntu ?
[02:19] <estropajo> what kind of mainboard have more than one pci-e x16 slot?
[02:19] <woli> prince_jammys, i don't want the directory to be seen...
[02:19] <woli> prince_jammys, the "bin"
[02:19] <mgolisch> estropajo: sure there are, how do you think SLI works?
[02:19] <Flannel> mika_videodev: there are.  Every* package has a source package.
[02:19] <outbriber> estropajo: I only use one pci-e x16 slot for my video card to run both screens.
[02:19] <mika_videodev> how are the source packages named?
[02:19] <prince_jammys> woli: heh. ok, you have to put it somewhere in your path.
[02:19] <Ashfire908> andrewaclt, I think all that does is list open files, not disk activity.
[02:20] <mgolisch> mika_videodev: sure there are, you can get the sourcepakcage name by apt-cache show packagename, it should list the sourcepackage name
[02:20] <mika_videodev> I just installed these packages: gstreamer-tools gstreamer0.10-tools libgstreamer0.10-0-dbg libgstreamer0.10-0-dbg gstreamer0.10-tools
[02:20] <woli> prince_jammys, ok ok done
[02:20] <mika_videodev> But cannot find any sources of them in my installation
[02:20] <Toaster`> Evening all, I run 8.04 x86-64 and flash was working fine.  now all flash videos (youtube, etc) only play the first 2 seconds of video.  The rest of the video is downloaded/cached but only 2 seconds are played.  if I drag the slider to another position, 2 seconds are played again, and then playback stops.  Any ideas?
[02:20] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: it now shows my eithernet card in terminal, how do i connect it to the network?
[02:20] <woli> prince_jammys, let me try it, and i tell you
[02:21] <prince_jammys> woli: try it first from a terminal, by typing whatever you called the file
[02:21] <Flannel> mika_videodev: Most of them are the same as the regular packages.  But if you view the package at packages.ubuntu.com (or launchpad) you can see for sure.
[02:21] <YaNn86> i recently add xchat and when i type /sysinfo it do nothing why?
[02:21] <andrewaclt> [   43.770349] wlan0: no IPv6 routers present -> What are the numbers in the []? I've not seen this on other distros, would like to remove it.
[02:21] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: wonderfull, dou you use networkmanager?
[02:21] <andrewaclt> Sorry, that's dmesg
[02:21] <cornell1> Got a question for... whoever.  I've got my new (to me) Dell  D620, I put Ubuntu 8.0.4 on it this morning, and now I'm far away, at a hotel.  The D620 has indicator lights for power on, harddrive usage, battery charging and wifi.  Booting into Ubuntu, no wifi light, no wifi signals.  Booting into XP, I get light and a signal
[02:21] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: idk, ill use whatever you show me
[02:21] <KRF> andrewaclt, system uptime
[02:21] <bigsniperboy> :)
[02:22] <KRF> seconds.milliseconds
[02:22] <KRF> err, microseconds
[02:22] <killemall> howdy
[02:22] <mgolisch> mika_videodev: the sources are never installed, but you can fetch the to the current directory with apt-get source packagename
[02:22] <andrewaclt> KRF, interesting, can I configure it not to include that?
[02:22] <woli> prince_jammys, from terminal works awesome
[02:22] <gkffjcs_> woli: if you don't want the bin directory you can make another dir and add it in your .bash_profile, for instance I have a folder called "Scripts" whic I find more asthetically pleasing, you can do it py appending this to the end of your .bash_profile "PATH=$PATH:$HOME/Scripts"
[02:22] <prince_jammys> woli: cool. try with alt-f2
[02:22] <KRF> its a kernel config option afaik
[02:22] <cornell1> Why doesn't Ubuntu show the presence of signals, and why no wifi indicator light (or is that because it can't find any?)
[02:22] <KRF> so it would need a kernel recompile
[02:22] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: do you run ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:23] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: ubuntu
[02:23] <lauren4667> Flannel: oh my goodness, that is automagical!  it seems all better.  phew!
[02:23] <bdunlap> cornell1, nm-applet shows signal strength
[02:23] <andrewaclt> KRF, cool thanks.
[02:23] <lauren4667> Flannel: thank you so much for your help
[02:23] <killemall> i dont know where to ask about this, so im trying you guys (1200 ppl) i want to stream gps data from my mobile device to my apache webserver
[02:23] <Toaster`> any ideas to my above?
[02:23] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, you there?
[02:24] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: ok install network-manager-gnome either via apt-get or synaptic
[02:24] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: im sorry, you lost me there
[02:24] <killemall> its kinda of a gimmick for my business, so visitors to my site can see where im at
[02:24] <woli> prince_jammys, i did the PATH=~/Repository:"${PATH}" line in the console, and then it ran as i wrote the appname on the console... i closed the console, and stopped working
[02:24] <mika_videodev> many results from that comman dinclude "Source: gstreamer0.10", but: aptitude install gstreamer0.10 complains "Couldn't find package "gstreamer0.10", and more than 40 packages contain "gstreamer0.10" in their name."
[02:25] <Ashfire908> Is there a way to tell what processes are accessing the hard drive (and not just a list of open files)?
[02:25] <woli> prince_jammys, not exactly lol... it still works.. but not from altF2
[02:25] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: open in menu: System-Administration-Synaptic-Packagamenanagement or so, no clue how its named in english
[02:25] <estropajo> CHC
[02:25] <CHC> what
[02:25] <hitman1985> anyone here got an airport extreme runing in 6.06 dapper drake ?
[02:25] <mika_videodev> apt-get source packagename ? is that "source" typed as-is, or should I replace it by something ?
[02:25] <estropajo> no no...forget it
[02:25] <CHC> lol
[02:25] <gkffjcs_> woli: what is the command your trying to run?
[02:25] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: if you cant find that open a terminal and type gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic
[02:26] <woli> "Password Manager"
[02:26] <jrib> mika_videodev: you only replace "packagename"
[02:26] <unop> mika_videodev, as-is
[02:26] <prince_jammys> woli: ok, the first thing you said is normal. it was attached to the terminal. to make it so that you can close the terminal, do 'progname & disown'
[02:26] <ballzee> is there a way to auto remove dead links in apt-get ?
[02:26] <woli> gkffjcs_, if i do it from the terminal (Password\ Manager) it works..
[02:26] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: i found it
[02:26] <iShock> I have an Intel gfx card, why can't I get better than 1024x768 resolution on my monitor?
[02:26] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE Sorry
[02:26] <KRF> woli, if you want to keep a process from dying when running in console suffix it with "& disown"
[02:26] <woli> prince_jammys, done
[02:26] <gkffjcs_> woli: sorry I mean the command in the script?
[02:26] <dewdrop> AM here
[02:26] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: in that program find network-manager-gnome and install it if its not allready
[02:27] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, I will help you once I am done with this cigarette and tea.. 1 sec mate
[02:27] <dewdrop> cool
[02:27] <mika_videodev> that must be unique to [K]Ubuntu then. In debian there are packname and  packname-dev or packname-src (cannot remember which, but that's the idea)
[02:27] <woli> gkffjcs_, gnome-terminal -e "~/path/to/launcher.sh"
[02:27] <gkffjcs_> the other thing you can try is putting a single & sign at the end of the command, this should allow the command to work after the terminal exits
[02:28] <woli> prince_jammys, KRF, gkffjcs_ , why will my program run from terminal, but not from the Alt-F2 Dialog ?
[02:28] <woli> KRF, where do i put disown?
[02:28] <KRF> woli, because of a different environemtn
[02:28] <KRF> right after the &
[02:28] <gkffjcs_> also alt f2 may not work since you only put the new path into one instance of your terminal
[02:28] <estropajo> good bye everybody
[02:28] <estropajo> thanks
[02:28] <KRF> inbetween a space
[02:28] <prince_jammys> woli: because X isn't seeing the addition to your PATH, apparently
[02:28] <woli> KRF, well, where do i put the &?
[02:29] <andrewaclt> Is there a way to remove the ubuntu icon from gnome panel? I tried start-here.png and distributor-icon.png in my current theme.
[02:29] <woli> prince_jammys, because of the disown, i asume..
[02:29] <gkffjcs_> you will need to add the path to your  ~/.bash_profile, before x will see it
[02:29] <prince_jammys> woli: huh?
[02:29] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: did you find the network-manager thing there?
[02:29] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: its already loaded
[02:29] <woli> prince_jammys, i have not appended it
[02:29] <woli> yet
[02:29] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: ok then there should be litle icon in your tray
[02:30] <gkffjcs_> if you did a manual PATH=$PATH:/new/path it will only be in the path for the terminal you entered it in,
[02:30] <gkffjcs_> woli
[02:30] <iShock> I have an Intel gfx card, why can't I get better than 1024x768 resolution on my monitor?
[02:30] <lolufail> can anyone tell me why rsync makes incomplete files (drive images filled with 20% data and 80% zeros) occupy their maximum sizes on xfs while cp doesnt?!
[02:30] <gkffjcs_> woli: also if you close the terminal and re open an new one, it will stop working. too
[02:30] <bzerk> your monitor prob dosent suport any thing more
[02:30] <woli> KRF, prince_jammys, like this >> PATH=~/.Personal\ Repository:${PATH}" & disown   ??
[02:31] <prince_jammys> no
[02:31] <master__> help me for dvr card
[02:31] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: yep i see it, i used dhcp in it and it says that i am connected, but i tried the internet, and it wouldnt load
[02:31] <woli> gkffjcs_, no it didn't... still works.. perhaps it will happen if i kill the gnome-terminal process
[02:31] <woli> prince_jammys, where, or... how?
[02:31] <gkffjcs_> woli: yeah, probabily
[02:31] <prince_jammys> woli: forget about disown. it was in response to "how can i run an app from a terminal and be able to close the terminal and not have the app close?"
[02:31] <mika_videodev> apt-get source got the dsc file: "25247 gstreamer0.10_0.10.14-1ubuntu3.diff.gz" - are those ubuntu differences automatically pathed to those files also automatically extracted ?
[02:31] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: ok open a terminal and type ifconfig, does that network interface showed there have an ip address?
[02:31] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: eth0 or whatever it was
[02:32] <master__> ı need dvr card drivers
[02:32] <prince_jammys> woli: add the directory to the PATH in .profile
[02:32] <woli> prince_jammys, well, but how are we sure that the next time i login i can use Password\ Manager again from the terminal?
[02:32] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: it shows eth0
[02:32] <woli> prince_jammys, i did....
[02:32] <gkffjcs_> add the same line to the end of your .bash_profile then it will work all over  while your at it i'de recomend running ln -s .bash_profile .bashrc
[02:32] <iShock> I have an Intel gfx card, why can't I get better than 1024x768 resolution on my monitor??
[02:32] <woli> prince_jammys, ok...
[02:33] <woli> prince_jammys, now, how do i introduce it to the run dialog environment?
[02:33] <weechat_user> hi all
[02:33] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: does it have an ip? inet Adresse: or so is it in the output of ifconfig
[02:33] <master__> can who help me for dvr card drivers
[02:33] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: yes it gives me an inet add
[02:33] <mika_videodev> "master__: ı need dvr card drivers" - I don't know anything else about that, but is there an easy way to report this kind of wishes to those who create the next distibution, to include the requested drivers? Then, when the 8.10 comes out, everything requested (if it exists) is already included.
[02:34] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: in the terminal if you type ping google.com does it resolve that dns name? ie are you able to ping that name?
[02:34] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: nope
[02:34] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, I am terribly sorry about the delay, I should not be much longer...
[02:35] <weechat_user> 
[02:35] <dewdrop> NP am waiting patiently
[02:35] <vladc> How can I turn on Metacity compositing to get shadows and window translucency?
[02:35] <jjjjac> im trying to mount an external usb, but i cant even get it recognized via fstab -l
[02:36] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: does ping 72.14.207.99   work?
[02:36] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE ﻿NP am waiting patiently
[02:36] <gkffjcs_> jjjjac: try sudo fdisk -l insted
[02:36] <jjjjac> sorry, thats what i meant
[02:36] <iShock> I have an Intel gfx card, why can't I get better than 1024x768 resolution on my monitor??...
[02:36] <jjjjac> getting nothing
[02:36] <mika_videodev> i am very surprised that one actually can ping google.com (and get an answer too). Most sites have blocked pings and do not answer to them. I don't know if that is some kind of misuse prevention measure taken, but they surely could block only excessive ping's from the same IP (and isp's should take care of ping packets sent with a forge IP address)
[02:36] <jjjjac> lsusb gives me something, i can post that
[02:37] <gkffjcs_> jjjjac: hmmm, what's the output from fdisk? It should at least mention something
[02:37] <flojose> iShock: probably your monitor does not support a higer resolution
[02:37] <luwening> how can i open a book download from synaptic?
[02:37] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: it says host unreachable
[02:37] <iShock> flojose: WRong, I can get up passed 1600x1000 on Windows.
[02:37] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: how does that ip address look that got assigned to you from dhcp?
[02:37] <bigsniperboy> mgolisch: what do you mean?
[02:38] <mgolisch> bigsniperboy: whats the ip you got?
[02:38] <jamiejackson> can anyone help me get tuxguitar to play sound? right now, it seems to work, but there's no sound
[02:38] <luwening> who can help me?
[02:39] <jamiejackson> would need someone who knows linux midi, i suppose
[02:39] <hitman1985> how to best setup a surveillance system under ubuntu ?
[02:40] <usser> j #synergy
[02:40] <usser> err
[02:40] <master__> who can help me for dvr card drivers
[02:40] <dotech> Why is Ubuntu's version of automake 5 years old??
[02:40] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, ok, I'm all yours :)
[02:41] <Paddy_EIRE> dotech, aint broke dont fix it... or brake it again
[02:41] <luwening> nobody?
[02:41] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE Cool Did you take a look at my Xorg.config
[02:41] <jrib> dotech: are you sure?
[02:41] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, still looking... How did you install your ati driver?
[02:41] <dewdrop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/42039/
[02:42] <dotech> jrib: Well I have automake 1.7 installed which is from 2003.  Not sure how I originally got it though.
[02:42] <dewdrop>  Just aq sec
[02:42] <dotech> jrib: Must have been a dependency.  I'll install 1.9.
[02:42] <jjjjac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/42047/  - output of lsusb
[02:42] <jrib> dotech: so install the automake pakcage.  You'll get 1.10
[02:42] <dotech> jrib: Oh, yeah.  Thanks :).
[02:42] <Rockwellgump> mgolisch: i am in the prepare partitions stage of installing ubuntu:  when in vista i shrunk its partition down as far as it would let me to about 96000MB, leaving 63000MB of free space. how big would you recomend my swap, root and seperate home partitions should be?   if i need more space vista partition is only using 52000MB of its partition, so if i shrink it more would it mess up the files on it?
[02:42] <dewdrop> Paddy_EIRE from these instructions
[02:42] <dewdrop> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[02:43] <Paddy_EIRE> 1 sec
[02:43] <iShock> jrib: 1024x768 is my max resolution on Ubuntu, but my monitor supports higher - How can I make it work?
[02:43] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, what GFX Chipset do you have?
[02:44] <jrib> !fixres | iShock
[02:44] <jjjjac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/42051/
[02:44] <rightlan1> How do I ﻿change my xorg.conf log out then log back in?
[02:44] <Kta> hi! i'm trying to edit a fat32 label with gparted, but i can't... any idea (i've mtools & dosfstools installed)
[02:44] <iShock> Gracias jrib.
[02:44] <jjjjac> im trying to mount an external usb hd, but its not even recognized by sudo fdisk -l
[02:44] <dewdrop> That I don't know It is a sapphire x1650 pro
[02:44] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE ﻿That I don't know It is a sapphire x1650 pro
[02:44] <jrib> Kta: do you actually want to use gparted or are you satisfied with just editing the label?
[02:45] <Kta> i want to use gparted
[02:45] <Kta> i know how to edit the label by console
[02:45] <Rockwellgump>  i am in the prepare partitions stage of installing ubuntu:  when in vista i shrunk its partition down as far as it would let me to about 96000MB, leaving 63000MB of free space. how big would you recomend my swap, root and seperate home partitions should be?   if i need more space vista partition is only using 52000MB of its partition, so if i shrink it more would it mess up the files on it?
[02:47] <`Matir> Given comcast's new 250gb/mo policy, is there any tool I can install to monitor bandwidth used per month on my linux router?  Preferrably something standalone without a whole lot of other tools (SNMP, etc.)
[02:47] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE I Also D/L ATI Driver fro ATI.ati-driver-installer-8-8-x86.x86_64.run
[02:47] <Friendly_hazard> what should i do if ubuntu is not detecting my ethernet connection?
[02:47] <Paddy_EIRE> ok dewdrop I would not normally recommend envy but for you it seems to be a better option
[02:47] <myr> is there a separate chan for the server edition?
[02:47] <Paddy_EIRE> !envy-ng
[02:47] <prince_jammys> myr: there's #ubuntu-server
[02:47] <tim167> on ubuntu hardy + firefox, the cortado applet for playing video doesnt work, what gives ?
[02:47] <Paddy_EIRE> !info envy-ng | dewdrop
[02:48] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[02:48] <dewdrop> I tried Envy already. I get a Black screen when it installs
[02:48] <prince_jammys> Paddy_EIRE: no dash
[02:48] <myr> prince_jammys, thx
[02:48] <Paddy_EIRE> prince_jammys, ah
[02:48] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE  ﻿I tried Envy already. I get a Black screen when it installs
[02:49] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, ah I see
[02:49] <rightlan1> Help! After updating, how do you change the  xorg.conf log out then log back in?
[02:49] <Friendly_hazard> what should i do if ubuntu is not detecting my ethernet connection?
[02:50] <dewdrop> I have Like 10 xorg back ups . Have to go into safe mode and allows ubuntu to overwrite each xorg I ahve tried
[02:50] <slipttees> i have problem, my Xorg doesn't work
[02:50] <slipttees> only work 800x600@73 vesa
[02:50] <FAJALOU> hi in prism; where can i access the settings?
[02:51] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, have you seen this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=515573&highlight=sapphire+x1650
[02:51] <prince_jammys> rightlan1: do you know what  changes you want to make to the file?
[02:51] <Brucee> rightlan1 edit it in nano of vi
[02:51] <Rockwellgump> can anyone help me with that partition issue i mentioned earilier?
[02:51] <slipttees> laptop 14'1 widescreen vga onboard sis 771/671 PCIE VGA display adapter
[02:51] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE ﻿I have Like 10 xorg back ups . Have to go into safe mode and allows ubuntu to overwrite each xorg I ahve tried, Not to mention that there is no restricted driver avaliable.
[02:52] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE Yes I did try that method to On that URl
[02:53] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, hmm.. seems rather annoying I wish I had the hardware in front of me :)
[02:53] <Rockwellgump> is teh swap partition realy neened
[02:54] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE I had to partition and ADD Wondows just to get the card to work 3d. A fresh ubuntu install will aloow it to work as 2d
[02:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Rockwellgump, yes
[02:54] <basti> swap=about ram size
[02:54] <Rockwellgump> thankyou
[02:54] <myr> swap isn't *always* needed. just for low-ram systems and hibernating mostly.
[02:55] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE Yes it is frustrating. Wish I had bought Nvidia :P
[02:55] <basti> yes. if you have 4gb ram you dont need that
[02:55] <FAJALOU> hi in prism; where can i access the settings?
[02:55] <user_> how do I check to see if xorg modules loaded properly?
[02:55] <basti> i guess 1gb is enough
[02:55] <woli> hi
[02:55] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, well that is an option.. but heh.. I have a laptop and tower both with working ati cards
[02:55] <woli> which is a better solution for gaming: install a vm, or use cedega ?
[02:56] <bastid_raZor> user_; look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:56] <Paddy_EIRE> woli, cedega or wine
[02:56] <Paddy_EIRE> woli, never game in a vm
[02:56] <woli> wine?
[02:56] <Paddy_EIRE> !wne
[02:56] <Paddy_EIRE> !wine
[02:56] <woli> Paddy_EIRE, why?
[02:56] <bastid_raZor> woli; a VM does not have 3d support as of yet.
[02:56] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE Do you know how I can get the restricted driver to show up in my Hardware drivers box again ?
[02:56] <woli> i know what wine is... but they say cedga is way better
[02:56] <woli> Paddy_EIRE, could you help me to install cs:s
[02:56] <woli>  ?
[02:56] <Jangari> I have a .jar java applet that's built for a mobile phone, but I need to demonstrate it on this machine, right-clicking and opening with either of the java runtime programs doesn't work, any ideas?
[02:57] <JulioNeto> hi folks
[02:57] <woli> can anybody help me to install CS:S ??
[02:57] <woli> in cedega
[02:57] <usser> Jangari, can u open thru the terminal with java filename.jar see whats the error message?
[02:57] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE If I can get that back . I belive I can replace my orig xorg and try again
[02:57] <basti> Jangari, just because its  a jar does not mean you can run it on your pc
[02:57] <Paddy_EIRE> woli, check the WineHQ on google
[02:58] <JulioNeto> I would like to know some open and good Help Desk. Is there any for Linux/Ubuntu?
[02:58] <bastid_raZor> woli; there is a #cedega channel
[02:58] <usser> woli, just use wine, cedega is not WAY better.
[02:58] <Jangari> thanks basti, that's precisely what i'm trying to address
[02:58] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, did the driver show up there to begin with?
[02:58] <woli> Paddy_EIRE, but they say that CS:s under wine is buggy
[02:58] <FAJALOU> JulioNeto:  right here ;) and the forums
[02:58] <woli> usser, is it not?
[02:58] <usser> woli, for CS:S u dont need cedega
[02:58] <woli> ok
[02:58] <dewdrop> Yes it was there after the fresh Ubuntu install
[02:58] <Paddy_EIRE> woli, yeah but use cedega
[02:58] <woli> and for battlefield 2?
[02:58] <usser> woli, it is but not by much
[02:58] <Paddy_EIRE> woli, just use winehq as a guideline
[02:58] <woli> Paddy_EIRE, ok, could you help me to set it up? on #cedega nobody says a thing
[02:58] <JulioNeto> nooo...
[02:59] <woli> Paddy_EIRE, ok...
[02:59] <Paddy_EIRE> woli, sorry mate trying to help someone else at the moment
[02:59] <JulioNeto> I mean.. a program for firms
[02:59] <Jangari> !pastebin
[02:59] <woli> but is that the way to install in cedega is so complicated for me
[02:59] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE But just enabling it without installing the ATI driver gave me a black screen at boot u[p
[02:59] <woli> Paddy_EIRE, no problem
[02:59] <Flannel> JulioNeto: Canonical provides paid support
[02:59] <JulioNeto> ¬¬
[02:59] <JulioNeto> isn't it
[02:59] <Jangari> usser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/42055/
[03:00] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5001773
[03:00] <myr> i need help installing ubuntu server. says error reading files from disc. can anyone help? more details here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5697083
[03:00] <Flannel> JulioNeto: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[03:00] <sanassar> Hey Guys
[03:00] <JulioNeto> Is there any Help Desk PROGRAM for business for Linux... like Ocomon
[03:00] <usser> JulioNeto, take a look at OTRS and RT
[03:00] <JulioNeto> ???
[03:00] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE Ty sir .
[03:00] <sanassar> I am making a new Distro based on ubuntu called Ultimate OS.I have a thread right here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=905904
[03:01] <usser> JulioNeto, otrs is an enterprise-grade system highly customizable
[03:01] <Qster> anyone play wow with wine? hows it run compared to windows?
[03:01] <JulioNeto> hummm
[03:01] <Flannel> sanassar: Please don't advertise here.
[03:01] <JulioNeto> usser, so OTRS and RT, right?! Tks man!
[03:01] <myr> sanassar, like ubuntu ultimate?
[03:01] <sanassar> Eh
[03:01] <sanassar> It is stripped down
[03:02] <dewdrop> ﻿Paddy_EIRE will try it . If no luck going to do another fresh ubuntu install. Nothing to lose :-D Thanks again
[03:02] <Paddy_EIRE> dewdrop, ok man no probs I wish I could have been more helpful
[03:02] <usser> JulioNeto, go with otrs rt is a tad easier to setup, but its not that full-featured take a look at both see what suits your needs
[03:02] <dewdrop> N/P take care
[03:02] <JulioNeto> humm
[03:03] <JulioNeto> np, I'll see this program usser
[03:03] <usser> Jangari, try to run it from DictionaryMIDlet ie ava jjar/filename.jar
[03:03] <usser> Jangari, err java jar/filename.jar
[03:03] <scrup> whats the best way to update the firmware on a cdrom from ubuntu? the dell site says i need to get to dos to run the utility but i cant get my server to boot a windows 98 floppy to save my life
[03:03] <devin> Any reasons for Ubuntu/Entire PC randomly freezing up? ._.
[03:05] <mgolisch> scrup: why not?
[03:06] <scrup> idk... i have floppy set as primary boot device for bios controlled devices, then my scsi raid controller... it reads the floppy then grub loads
[03:06] <scrup> as is I cannot boot any burned cds either.. i only got ubuntu installed as i requsted CD's and the system would boot those
[03:07] <scrup> just lucky i had them
[03:07] <scrup> did some reading and it was suggested i upgrade the drive formware
[03:08] <mgolisch> scrup: maybe try http://binflash.cdfreaks.com/
[03:08] <mgolisch> it works under linux
[03:08] <cpierce> anyone know of a good utility to check ntfs drives in ubuntu?
[03:08] <dbglt> hi folks, I removed some packages, and now my sound doesn't work :( can anyone tell me what packages I need to set it up?
[03:08] <mgolisch> cpierce: you mean a filesystem check? no there is none, boot windows and use its chkdsk
[03:09] <dbglt> whenever I try to use alsamixer now, I get: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[03:09] <Jordan_U> dbglt: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:09] <scrup> mgolisch: i dont see my drive as a supported one
[03:09] <dbglt> Jordan_U: just on hardy now
[03:09] <scrup> mgolisch: i have a : Samsung SN-324F SFF Combo
[03:10] <mgolisch> scrup: boot a dos flash floppy then
[03:10] <cpierce> mgolisch: no  i mean like something to recover data from one that can't be saw in windows but detects in ubuntu
[03:10] <mgolisch> scrup: still dont see whats so bad about using the prefered flash method?
[03:10] <scrup> dos the dos vs matter? bootdisk.com have a couple diff versions
[03:10] <dbglt> Jordan_U: I think I removed some gnome/gstreamer package, but I don't see why that would impact on me being able to use alsamixer at all
[03:10] <Dimitrov> what is wajig?
[03:10] <Jordan_U> dbglt: Make sure you have a default card set ( asoundconf list then asoundconf set-default-card )
[03:11] <dbglt> Jordan_U: is "Intel" a valid one?
[03:11] <mgolisch> cpierce: recover data?
[03:11] <dbglt> I have intel, and then some hex code
[03:11] <Jordan_U> dbglt: Yes
[03:11] <cpierce> mgolisch:  yeah somethings fucked wit hthe ntfs... in windows it doesn't detect or show in manage...it shows up in ubuntu
[03:11] <dbglt> Jordan_U: odd, it doesn't work
[03:11] <dbglt> Jordan_U: seems to crash
[03:11] <dbglt> (the set default thing)
[03:11] <mgolisch> cpierce: mount it and copy the data ?
[03:12] <Jordan_U> dbglt: You sure you are using hardy?
[03:13] <cpierce> mgolisch:  NTFS signature is missing.
[03:13] <scrup> mgolisch: i dont follow what you mean... nothing is bad about the preferred method, just that i am seemingly not able to boot a floppy to get to dos
[03:13] <cpierce> mgolisch: The device '/dev/sda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[03:13] <Jordan_U> dbglt: It probably still worked, but you seem to be having a bug which is exactly like the one I just encountered after an intrepid update...
[03:13] <cpierce> mgolisch: but fdisk -l shows /dev/sda1   *           1       19456   156280288+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:13] <dbglt> Jordan_U: let me double check,  I have an intrepid one as well,  but I set them up the same. I swear I just rebooted
[03:14] <mgolisch> scrup: you dont have a floppy drive or what?
[03:14] <dbglt> Jordan_U: any quick way to tell?
[03:14] <Lipsonubuntu> could i get some ubuntu with python help?
[03:14] <mgolisch> cpierce: yeah the filesystem is damaged i guess,
[03:14] <scrup> mgolisch: i do
[03:14] <cpierce> mgolisch: thus my question
[03:14] <Jordan_U> dbglt: lsb_release -a
[03:15] <mgolisch> cpierce: if you cant mount it your lost, try chkdsk in windows or some ntfs data recovery tools from within windows
[03:15] <scrup> mgolisch: as i stated... when i boot the machine... it just checks the floppy and moves on.. it doesnt seem like its actually trying to boot from it... yet its set as the primary boot device
[03:15] <cpierce> mgolisch:  wrong
[03:15] <Lipsonubuntu> does anyone know where the main executable file for the python IDE is?
[03:15] <mgolisch> scrup: the floppy might not be made correcly
[03:15] <dbglt> Jordan_U: bugger. I'm in my intrepid one!!
[03:16] <michael> hi i  am running kubuntu and i was wondering what can i do to fix my start panel all that is showing is my k start button and the time, if i open a program it does not show the tab
[03:16] <mgolisch> if it doesnt have anything in its bootsektor the bios will just skip it
[03:16] <dbglt> Jordan_U: hah I didn't even notice the difference
[03:16] <usser> cpierce, try to force mount
[03:16] <usser> cpierce, ie ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt -o force
[03:16] <Lipsonubuntu> can anyone help me finding something?
[03:16] <cpierce> yeah i have guys
[03:16] <mgolisch> it says ntfs signature missing, the filesystem is hossed
[03:16] <FuRom> I'm having a problem with dialog windows and such popping up behind the application I'm using in wine. Is there any way I can fix this? I just downloaded and ran DevCpp and I just had a file rename dialog box prevented me from doing ANYTHING for a full 5 mins. It was only a miracle that after switching workspaces a few times, the box came to the front. I use gnome and no, I could use alt+drag to move windows, alt+tab to switch windows, or 
[03:16] <scrup> id assume it would throw an error of some sorts
[03:16] <scrup> guess not
[03:17] <cpierce> mgolisch: thats a lame answer because i know theres something out there that people use to get data back because you can send drives in and get them fixed
[03:17] <scrup> i havent had to floppy boot in FE
[03:17] <zelrikriando> Lipsonubuntu, ;)
[03:17] <Lipsonubuntu> ah hey zelriki
[03:17] <zelrikriando> Lipsonubuntu, dont ask to ask...ask
[03:17] <Lipsonubuntu> ok
[03:17] <michael> i am running kubuntu and i was wondering what can i do to fix my start panel all that is showing is my k start button and the time, if i open a program it does not show the tab
[03:17] <zelrikriando> Lipsonubuntu, and be patient people are not paid for their support here :)
[03:18] <mgolisch> cpierce: why is it lame? those data recovery companies dont use some lame software you can buy somewhere
[03:18] <Lipsonubuntu> oh yeh i know
[03:18] <zelrikriando> :)
[03:18] <cpierce> mgolisch: do they get it from tinkerbell?
[03:18] <cpierce> they buy it somewhere dumbass
[03:18] <basti> then buy it yourself dumbass
[03:18] <Lipsonubuntu> some good people dedicating they're time to helping users for no pay
[03:18] <mgolisch> cpierce: please dont insult people here
[03:18] <cpierce> basti: thus my question if anyone knew of something
[03:19] <dbglt> Jordan_U: it won't touch hardy at all, will it? On a seperate partition
[03:19] <Lipsonubuntu> ubuntu is really complicated for a ubuntu user like me
[03:19] <mgolisch> i dont know of any such tools for linux
[03:19] <cpierce> don't insult me by assuming i don't know how to mount a drive and i won't
[03:19] <Lipsonubuntu> good people indeed
[03:19] <basti> they use hardware/software you CANT buy
[03:19] <cpierce> everything is for sell
[03:20] <basti> if oyu could do stuff like this on your own what would be the purpose of these firms
[03:20] <Friendly_hazard> what should i do if ubuntu is not detecting my ethernet connection?
[03:20] <cpierce> basti: so your answer is you can't become one of those firms?
[03:20] <scrup> theres all sorts of software out there
[03:21] <basti> sure you can. you just need some intelligent people who can write you the software and build your hardware
[03:21] <scrup> someone was telling me theres a program out there that if u were to say format your MBR, it will crawl out amongst the drive and rebuild the partition tables and mbr and all that good stuff
[03:21] <Chro41> I have a question
[03:22] <Jangari> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
[03:22] <Jangari> DictionaryMIDlet.jar
[03:22] <mgolisch> scrup: there is testdisk, it analyzes the disks and tries to reconstruct the partitiontable
[03:22] <cpierce> mgolisch: so why couldn't i get that answer while ago
[03:23] <bastid_raZor> is it a safe idea to compile more than one program at a time?
[03:23] <Friendly_hazard> what should i do if ubuntu is not detecting my ethernet connection?
[03:23] <mgolisch> cpierce: what answer? i told you from the begining there no software you could get for that
[03:23] <basti> bastid_raZor, no. it just takes longer
[03:23] <basti> i mean yes ;)
[03:23] <zcat[1]> bastid_raZor: possibly, as long as neither wants to link part of the other in some way
[03:24] <Lipsonubuntu> does anyone know where i can find the python folder?
[03:24] <mgolisch> cpierce: and if the data was important/valueable you have a backup , if not it wasnt important enough..
[03:24] <cpierce> its for a customer
[03:24] <larson9999> how do you remove compiz?
[03:24] <bastid_raZor> okay, thanks zcat[1] and basti
[03:24] <zcat[1]> cpierce: what are you trying to do?
[03:24] <cpierce> you people piss me off assuming everyone is some dumb nube
[03:24] <Chro41> I have a hp9000 this has a quad core RISC processor it had HPUnix I do not have the OS so I am looking to replace it with another.  What OS will run on a RISC (HP9000) type box.
[03:24] <cpierce> zcat[1]: find software that might recover this ntfs partition
[03:24] <myr> Friendly_hazard, probably figure out what card you have and search google for other ubuntu users with the same card?
[03:25] <usser> cpierce, thats the first of tech support. assume the worst
[03:25] <djhash> cpierce: filesystem problem.. use testdisk
[03:25] <usser> cpierce, rule of tech support
[03:25] <cpierce> djhash: thanks
[03:26] <zcat[1]> there's ntfs tools.. if you messed up the partition table there's gpart (not gparted) which will try to guess partition layout by looking at what remains of the filesystem
[03:26] <djhash> cpierce: testdisk is a very delicate software and can seriously damage ur drive beyond consumer repair.. please read up on it..
[03:26] <cpierce> djhash: doesn't matter at this point
[03:26] <zcat[1]> cpierce: The suggested way of recoving a drive is to find another drive and clone the entire thing, then only work on the clone
[03:27] <mgolisch> but still it wont fix broken filesystems, testdisk that is
[03:27] <zcat[1]> that way if you screw up you can go back and clone it again
[03:28] <Friendly_hazard> myr: i should also mention that im using VMware on xp to run ubuntu. needless to say my internet works fine from xp
[03:28] <Lipsonubuntu> does anyone know where i can find the python folder?
[03:28] <Chro41> I have a hp9000 this has a quad core RISC processor it had HPUnix I do not have the OS so I am looking to replace it with another.  What OS will run on a RISC (HP9000) type box.
[03:28] <Jordan_U> Lipsonubuntu: What do you mean "the" python folder?
[03:29] <basti> Lipsonubuntu, there is no "THE" python folder
[03:29] <Lipsonubuntu> the folder that contains the python IDE
[03:29] <mgolisch> pythonide?
[03:29] <mgolisch> idle or what?
[03:29] <basti> ide?
[03:29] <Lipsonubuntu> python compiler?
[03:29] <Lipsonubuntu> python interpreter
[03:29] <bastid_raZor> Friendly_hazard; you should ask in #vmware .. possibly you set something incorrectly in vmware that is causing the issue.
[03:29] <Jordan_U> Lipsonubuntu: /usr/bin/python
[03:29] <Lipsonubuntu> oh well thats simple lol thankls
[03:30] <basti> just type python
[03:30] <woli> how do i force-unmount a CD?
[03:30] <zcat[1]> Interactive Development Environment == IDE ; idle is one.. eric is another
[03:30] <Friendly_hazard> l
[03:30] <Friendly_hazard> k
[03:30] <basti> woli, try to eject it
[03:30] <basti> eject /dev/your/device
[03:30] <Jordan_U> Lipsonubuntu: You can get the path to any command by typing "which <command>" for future reference
[03:30] <holyguyver> I have some files that are absalutely refusing to delete from my system, they are in the trash bin, but when I empty it they refuse to empty. How can I delete them from ym system?
[03:30] <geodome> hi
[03:31] <zcat[1]> sudo eject /make/me/a/sandwich
[03:31] <geodome> how to invoke a root terminal on ubuntu?
[03:31] <woli> sudo -s
[03:31] <lucas_> Hello, is there a way to make a folder's icon the image of a predefined image in that folder (let's say folder.jpg) ,if it has one, and else the default folder icon?
[03:31] <geodome> i dont want to use sudo
[03:31] <Jordan_U> geodome: Why not?
[03:31] <geodome> i just want to enter root terminal immediately
[03:31] <scrup> mgolisch: i got it... floppy was bad... hopefully now i can boot burnt cd's
[03:31] <prince_jammys> geodome: sudo -i  gets you a root session.
[03:32] <scrup> mgolisch: b/c im not entirely sure the 7.10 disks i got from the website are server and not desktop...
[03:32] <Jordan_U> geodome: gksudo gnome-terminal
[03:32] <IceWewe> how well is the AMD HD48xx series supported in linux?
[03:32] <Chro41> I have a hp9000 this has a quad core RISC processor it had HPUnix I do not have the OS so I am looking to replace it with another.  What OS will run on a RISC (HP9000) type box.
[03:32] <phantomcircuit> how can i figure out the CPU freq?
[03:32] <holyguyver> So anyone know how I can delete them?
[03:32] <djhash> phantomcircuit: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:32] <woli> zcat[1], it says that the drive is busy
[03:33] <IceWewe> Chro41: what kind of RISC? PowerPC?
[03:33] <zcat[1]> geodome: there's no way of getting things to run as root from a user login without using some form of sudo (gksu / gksudo)
[03:33] <kwak> anyone using edubuntu? i'm having a big problem right now. my clients are not getting any response from the DHCP of the ltsp server
[03:33] <bastid_raZor> holyguyver; cd ~/.Trash && sudo rm -f filename filename
[03:33] <zcat[1]> woli: sudo fuser /dev/whatever ?
[03:33] <camilo> alguien latino
[03:34] <zcat[1]> will tell you what is busying it?
[03:34] <camilo> mejor de colombia
[03:34] <camilo> hyyyyyyyyy
[03:34] <IceWewe> Chro41: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_9000#Operating_systems
[03:34] <bastid_raZor> !es | camilo
[03:34] <arielkhandadash> Hey guys, this is sorta my first time using IRC so I was wondering if someone can show me to the appropriate channel. I'm looking to buy a new "NetBook" pc for myself and plan to run ubuntu. I have never used ubuntu before but I plan on using it for the netbook and future endeavors. Firstly, can anyone point me into the direction of somewhere where people can give me advice on which NetBook to buy?
[03:34] <geodome> mmm
[03:34] <basti> why not just sudo rm -f ~.Trash/*
[03:34] <camilo> gracias
[03:34] <geodome> what does missing file operand mean?
[03:34] <zcat[1]> woli: sudo fuser -k /dev/whatever  will kill whatever process is keeping it busy, I think.. or that might be for the mountpoint instead?
[03:34] <phantomcircuit> how can i turn off the cpu freq scaling?
[03:35] <IceWewe> arielkhandadash: google them, make an educated decision, come back here when you've decided
[03:35] <Tobark> whats a net book?
[03:35] <Jordan_U> arielkhandadash: I would recommend the ASUS eeepc
[03:35] <phantomcircuit> this stupid software is measuring it and refusing to install
[03:35] <larson9999> there!  no compiz.  now ubuntu doesn't suck.
[03:35] <IceWewe> Tobark: Asus EEE PC, Dell Inspiron 910, Acer Aspire One, MSI Wind
[03:35] <woli> zcat[1], i'm installing an application that requires 2 CDs...
[03:35] <woli> its asking me for CD 2
[03:35] <arielkhandadash> I was looking at the Asus Aspire One. any thoughts?
[03:35] <woli> but i can't eject because i cant....
[03:35] <norman_> /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[03:35] <IceWewe> arielkhandadash: Uck! I wouldn't buy that if you paid me
[03:35] <rww> phantomcircuit: sudo apt-get remove powernowd
[03:36] <woli> zcat[1], if i kill it, it will kill the installer...
[03:36] <IceWewe> arielkhandadash: but that's a personal thing... I just hate Acers
[03:36] <myr> woli, wine eject
[03:36] <myr> ?
[03:36] <zcat[1]> arielkhandadash: I'd suggest get whatever netbook you like most, and keep whatever linux it came with, usually they've donw some work to get everything to work nicely and it can be a pain to change to a different distro
[03:36] <mgolisch> iam waiting for the new lenovo ideapad
[03:36] <phantomcircuit> rww, i just want to temporarily stop it
[03:36] <mgolisch> it looks nice
[03:36] <norman_> /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[03:36] <geodome> ﻿hat does missing file operand mean?
[03:36] <IceWewe> mgolisch: yup, expensive too
[03:36] <scrup> "This utility updates the firmware version to at least N104. The firmware corrects a problem where the drive incorrectly miscalculates track size. This issue is with media that was created with out track pad option selected within the CD burning software."
[03:36] <mgolisch> the wind doesnt seem to be availiable anymore
[03:36] <rww> phantomcircuit: then what norman_ said should work (but requires sudo) :)
[03:36] <mgolisch> atleast no dealer ahs it on stock
[03:36] <woli> myr, no parameters?
[03:36] <woli> myr, i have 2 drives...
[03:36] <IceWewe> mgolisch: it's available... just not in North America, yet.
[03:36] <mgolisch> so either the new eeepc 10" or the lenovo
[03:36] <IceWewe> so, anyone in here running an AMD4850 or 4870 on Ubuntu? experiences?
[03:36] <erickvp_> hi all
[03:37] <basti> geodome, what are you trying to do?
[03:37] <holyguyver> bastid_raZor, It said "bash: cd: /home/jack/.Trash: No such file or directory" even though they are still there & I have been trying to delete them for a month now.
[03:37] <geodome> install realtek's linux sound driver
[03:37] <prince_jammys> !trash | holyguyver
[03:37] <geodome> using the script that comes with it
[03:37] <bastid_raZor> ahh, i did not know trash had moved.
[03:37] <woli> myr, wine eject won't eject my drives...
[03:37] <geodome> when i run from the GUI, it works but i get alot of error msg and the computer still plays no sound
[03:37] <mgolisch> anyways night guys
[03:37] <mgolisch> have fun
[03:38] <geodome> so i m trying to run it from root terminal
[03:38] <zcat[1]> I made a link, so .Trash is back in ~ were it belongs! at least as far as I care...
[03:38] <norman_> Anyone successfully used subtitles in dvd-slideshow (qdvdauthor). I can't get them to render and i'm googling my eyes out.
[03:38] <zcat[1]> rm -rf .Trash/* works..
[03:38] <IceWewe> woli: copy the second CD to your HD and start the install again. Next time, when the installer prompts you for the second disk, specify the path to the folder containing your dump of the second disk
[03:38] <IceWewe> woli: problem solved.
[03:38] <woli> icewewe, thanks...
[03:38] <myr> zcat[1], that doesnt look like a good idea
[03:38] <woli> i will have to copy like 5, to be honest
[03:39] <zcat[1]> myr: you think? why not?
[03:39] <cpierce> zcat[1]:  thanks for the suggestions it looks like gpart is working
[03:39] <cpierce> much better answer than sorry your screwed
[03:39] <myr> zcat[1], .Trash/.. is in .Trash/*
[03:39] <cpierce> i wish people that didn't know something about an answer wouldn't just guess at it
[03:40] <prince_jammys> myr: * doesn't match ..
[03:40] <zcat[1]> myr: * doesn't match . or .. though afaik..
[03:40] <prince_jammys> thank goodness
[03:40] <unop> myr, dot-globbing is not set
[03:40] <holyguyver> prince_jammys, Thank you that worked :)
[03:40] <myr> ok, good to know
[03:40] <zcat[1]> myr: I do know, however, that .* DOES match .. .. and I won't ever make that mistake again.
[03:40] <holyguyver> !thanks
[03:40] <prince_jammys> holyguyver: what did?
[03:40] <myr> zcat[1], thats what i was thinking of
[03:40] <holyguyver> prince_jammys, the thing you had Ubottu tell me.
[03:41] <prince_jammys> ah, cool.
[03:41] <prince_jammys> (don't remember)
[03:41] <pretender> Have downloaded Lives from getdeb and am getting a message “Error dependency is not satisfiable: libcairo2 “  How can I install Lives in Gutsy
[03:41] <zcat[1]> You cannot clear all of a user's settings like .gnome2, etc with 'rm -rf .*'
[03:41] <IceWewe> pretender: put on your dependency hat and get your hands dirty
[03:42] <Jordan_U> arielkhandadash: If you go for an eepc, look into http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/ it's Ubuntu custom tailored for the eeepc and the next version which should be out this week even includes Ubuntu netbook remix by defualt
[03:42] <unop> zcat[1], errm .. why wouldn't it?
[03:43] <pretender> the deb was for hardy and i am running gutsy.  Where to from here
[03:43] <Sorlag> hi folks... which tool do i need for control my pc via bluetooth?
[03:43] <myr> unop, you can.. it will just clear everything else as well ;]
[03:43] <zcat[1]> unop: .* matches .. so it removes the user's home and has a good try at removing everyone else's home as well
[03:44] <IceWewe> Sorlag: a magic one
[03:44] <unop> zcat[1], so it still " clear all of a user's settings" as a side-effect, right?
[03:44] <Sorlag> there is none Oo
[03:44] <Sorlag> wow..
[03:44] <landis> hi - can anyone help me with installing ubuntu in a VM on vista please?
[03:44] <Sorlag> thought so
[03:44] <zcat[1]> unop: OK, technically yes, it removes all the settings, it just removes a bit more than was expected as well
[03:45] <Sa[i]nT> What's the addy for an offtopic room?
[03:45] <Pelao77> uf
[03:45] <`Matir> With the default UFW rules, I can't seem to connect via SMB to another computer in nautilus.... It blocks packets coming back from the other computer... any idea why?
[03:45] <zcat[1]> !ot
[03:45] <Pelao77> esta es mi primera vez en esto que buena
[03:45] <bdunlap> !es
[03:45] <br10ta10_> !es | Pelao77
[03:45] <srdgame> hellow
[03:46] <Sorlag> uhm IceWewe its BlueProximity.. you shouldnt answer if you dont know
[03:46] <zcat[1]> If you're not 100% sure it's a good idea to 'echo $foo' before you 'rm $foo' and make sure $foo only matches what you expect it to
[03:46] <IceWewe> Sorlag: why did you ask if you knew?
[03:46] <IceWewe> Sorlag: It's not like I lurk here to give everyone the right answer all the time, I just speak from experience, and I have never run across an app that does that.
[03:47] <IceWewe> Sorlag: so, great, you've found the illusive app that does what you want, why ridicule me for providing a free opinion?
[03:47] <IceWewe> Sorlag: not like what I say is fact, always. This isn't the bible.
[03:47] <Sorlag> IceWewe idiot
[03:47] <zcat[1]> Ummm guys.. quite often I ask a question in here and then go find the answer myself while waiting. Dont stress over it, move on..
[03:48] <rww> !attitude
[03:48] <IceWewe> so, that's directed towards me? or Sorlag, who just stormed out?
[03:48] <srdgame> #exit
[03:49] <fluid> any workaround to the custom login/logout sounds not working at all?
[03:49] <mcquaid> my router broke and i'm using this other router that only has 1 nic port so I hooked it up to an old hub I have so I can hook up my other computers
[03:50] <mcquaid> i noticed a fair bit of degradation on the network, not massive but noticeable
[03:50] <mcquaid> i read that hubs only operate at half duplex.  should I force all my nics to half duplex?
[03:50] <IceWewe> mcquaid: ok, that will happen when you use a hub... what's your question?
[03:50] <ubuntunub> .msg ubottu etiquette command doesn't work?
[03:50] <zcat[1]> mcquaid: that ought to work .. routers usually dhcp a whole range of addresses even when they only have one rj45, for just that reason..
[03:50] <phantomcircuit> mcquaid, the problem is the hub
[03:51] <unop> zcat[1], hmm .. interesting .. i knew there was something wrong with what you said.  http://pastebin.com/mf9e87a3
[03:51] <phantomcircuit> a hub broadcasts all data to everyone
[03:51] <phantomcircuit> effectivly reducing the performance for each client on the network
[03:51] <mcquaid> yes, but will forcing half dup on all devices alleviate the problem (collusions?)
[03:51] <phantomcircuit> no
[03:51] <phantomcircuit> it might help depending on the particular device
[03:52] <mcquaid> well it has a switch for cascade and normal, i ahve it at normal
[03:52] <phantomcircuit> but there is auto negotiation of duplex modes usually
[03:52] <mcquaid> i thought cascade sends all traffic to all devices
[03:52] <phantomcircuit> yes
[03:52] <phantomcircuit> so maybe it's not doing that
[03:52] <phantomcircuit> (you have a switch/hub that switches with a switch ... lol fucking english >.<)
[03:53] <rp3> what can i restart so ubuntu see's my canon camera again?
[03:53] <mcquaid> ok but still get a fair amount of collisions (which I read is normal for a hub) but it would be nice if I could improve performance
[03:53] <fluid> its a hub, its not going to segregate any data itself.
[03:53] <Theaxiom> What app do I download to unrar archives?
[03:53] <fluid> Theaxiom, rar
[03:53] <KevinO> !ohmy | phantomcircuit
[03:53] <mjoya> has anyone ever had a problem where they couldn't enable the checkboxes under the main menu?
[03:53] <mcquaid> yeah but it's a hub hooked up to a router, so I thought it would do that ;) very limited knowledge of hubs...
[03:53] <Theaxiom> fluid: Is there another one?
[03:53] <mcquaid> so would forcing half dup on all devices help?
[03:54] <mjoya> for example, the synaptic checkbox is unchecked, i click it and put an 'x' on it, then two seconds later the 'x' goes away
[03:54] <fluid> install rar, and you can use the regular old archiver on the desktop afterwards for them.
[03:54] <rp3> Theaxiom: just search synaptic for rar there are lots
[03:54] <mcquaid> or are they probably forced to half dup anyway
[03:54] <Theaxiom> fluid: Oh, ok. Thanks.
[03:54] <mjoya> anyone seen that?
[03:55] <unop> myr, zcat[1], or more to the point. http://pastebin.com/d4b0dc652
[03:55] <mcquaid> and sorry i see phantomcircuit you said it normally auto negotiates duplex modes...
[03:55] <mcquaid> hmmm
[03:55] <mcquaid> hubs suck ;)
[03:55] <zcat[1]> unop: weird. I'm sure it used to behave differently..
[03:56] <master_> help me pls
[03:56] <fluid> eh, hubs dont suck. they serve the purpose of doing exactly what you are doing.
[03:56] <master_> for dvr card driver
[03:57] <zcat[1]> switches > hubs
[03:57] <unop> zcat[1], it wouldn't make sense for rm to do that .. you would always end up with a catastrophe on your hands if ever you created a bunch of dot files and wanted to remove them later.
[03:57] <fluid> switches are much better than hubs, but his switch died.
[03:58] <nelly> hey guys
[03:58] <prince_jammys> unop: i think other rms may not be so nice
[03:58] <Tobark> hub > switches for sniffing traffic and watching / troubleshooting apps. IMHO
[03:58] <prince_jammys> unop: have heard of destruction caused by .* on other systems
[03:59] <unop> prince_jammys, like which ones .. i know for a fact the BSD one doesn't
[03:59] <fluid> i thnk i just found a workaround for this problem. brb.
[03:59] <prince_jammys> unop: don't remember. greycat mentioned it.
[03:59] <prince_jammys> unop: there was a discussion, but it's all a blur :)
[03:59] <unop> prince_jammys, heh, yea, greycat uses some exotic and ageing unix :)
[03:59] <Theaxiom> What do I type to add myself to a group?
[04:00] <Pelao77> alguien que hables español
[04:00] <Pelao77> soy nuevo en esto
[04:00] <rww> !es | Pelao77
[04:00] <falemant> hello
[04:00] <mjoya> question: if the checkboxes under the "edit menus" dialog don't work for some menu entries, what might be the underlying problem?
[04:01] <prince_jammys> unop: i remember this: NEVER type that command!! ;)
[04:01] <falemant> what should the "root' in my grub/menu.lst be?
[04:01] <falemant> keep in mind that i have a separate boot partition
[04:01] <zcat[1]> I'm pretty sure I did it on redhat, but that was a while back.. I may have been thinking of something equally stupid but different. I did figure out that 'echo .*' includes .. and I'm pretty sure that's what I tried once and it did remove just about everything in /home/ I had permission to remove.
[04:01] <falemant> my problem right now is that when i try to boot from the drive, i get an error saying no operating system is installed
[04:02] <cpierce> zcat[1]: you ever used the photorec thing
[04:02] <unop> zcat[1], well you can see rm explicitly ignore . and ..
[04:02] <cpierce> pretty amazing
[04:02] <zcat[1]> .. anyhow, fact is relying on 'rm' NOT to remove .. when you tell it to is probably not a good idea anyway.
[04:03] <SplashTK> Hey all, I am receiving a Error 12: Invalid Device Requested when trying to boot into windows xp which is loaded on a SEPARATE HDD to my ubuntu install. I search the net but it's all too confusing with GRUB, was wondering if anyone could lend a hand? THanks
[04:03] <mcquaid> ok as a test, is it easy to force my nic to 10mbit half dup?
[04:03] <mcquaid> is there a standard way or does it vary from nic to nic?
[04:03] <bullgard4> What follows from the 'CONFIG_NVRAM=m' entry in /boot/config-2.6.24-19-generic? ('~$ lsmod | grep nvram' does not produce an output.)
[04:04] <kaiwen> Hi, I have a problem. So ubuntu 8.04 has been working lovely ever since I updated from gutsy. When I login with kdm or gdm (user name and password), kde3, kde4, gnome (depending on what I choose) is supposedly suppose to start. Now, when I login, kde, gnome, or whatever doesn't load (no splash screen too), but, the hard drive continuously continues to spin.
[04:04] <zcat[1]> mcquaid: man ifconfig -- it should be in there somewhere
[04:04] <kaiwen> can anyone help me on that issue?
[04:05] <falemant> heycan anyone hhelp me chroot a shell/
[04:05] <falemant> iwant to get into my install...
[04:05] <zcat[1]> hmm, perhaps it isn't :(
[04:05] <solrize> anyone know what package i have to install to get expat.h?
[04:05] <kaiwen> falemant sudo xterm
[04:05] <kaiwen> anyone have an idea?
[04:05] <falemant> kaiwen what's that?
[04:05] <kaiwen> Hi, I have a problem. So ubuntu 8.04 has been working lovely ever since I updated from gutsy. When I login with kdm or gdm (user name and password), kde3, kde4, gnome (depending on what I choose) is supposedly suppose to start. Now, when I login, kde, gnome, or whatever doesn't load (no splash screen too), but, the hard drive continuously continues to spin.
[04:05] <kaiwen> can anyone help me on that issue?
[04:06] <kaiwen> falemant it creates a terminal with all root permissions
[04:06] <falemant> that's not what i need
[04:06] <kaiwen> falemant what do you need
[04:06] <falemant> i need to chcek my install
[04:06] <falemant> chroot into just the install drive
[04:06] <kriebel> solrize: maybe libexpat-ocaml-dev ?  it would be something with "dev" or "devel" at the end
[04:06] <Omlette> Quick question: I hit Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F6 by mistake and ended up in a command prompt. Is there an easy way out of it besides rebooting?
[04:06] <kaiwen> falemant, dk, sry :(
[04:07] <cap> How does one re-configure xorg?
[04:07] <kaiwen> Omlette Ctrl Alt f7
[04:07] <solrize> that's ocaml language bindings, i expect
[04:07] <cap> dpkg-reconfigure xorg ....?
[04:07] <cap> something like that?
[04:07] <kriebel> solrize, sorry libexpat1-dev
[04:07] <cap> Or is there an easeir way?
[04:08] <kriebel> cap: that's... pretty easy, depengind on the default question level of dpkg
[04:08] <kaiwen> Omlette yes
[04:08] <kaiwen> Omlette try all teh f keys with ctrl and alt
[04:08] <basti> Omlette, alt+f7
[04:09] <cap> kriebel: what is the command?  dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf  ?  Is that it?
[04:09] <Omlette> notice kaiwen thanks. :) I'll pass on the Ctrl Alt F1, though. :P
[04:09] <kriebel> cap: no, dpkg-reconfigure takes the package name as the argument
[04:09] <kriebel> not a conf file
[04:09] <kaiwen> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh something... like that
[04:09] <Omlette> Wow, it worked!
[04:10] <kaiwen> Hi, I have a problem. So ubuntu 8.04 has been working lovely ever since I updated from gutsy. When I login with kdm or gdm (user name and password), kde3, kde4, gnome (depending on what I choose) is supposedly suppose to start. Now, when I login, kde, gnome, or whatever doesn't load (no splash screen too), but, the hard drive continuously continues to spin.
[04:10] <kaiwen> anyone have an idea?
[04:10] <kriebel> it's funny, virtual terminals was the very first feature of Linux... and people don't know about them
[04:10] <kaiwen> goshh this sucks
[04:10] <FloodBot1> kaiwen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:10] <kaiwen> it's like forzen, the hard drive is still spinning
[04:10] <cman> is there a channel for windows vista?
[04:10] <kaiwen> the mouse moves, but really really slow b/c of the cpu usage
[04:10] <kaiwen> !vista
[04:11] <nickgarvey> cman: #windows?
[04:11] <cman> thanks.
[04:11] <drhe|skt> is there something similiar to DU meter for linux???
[04:11] <kaiwen> Omlette this is not the display manager issue
[04:11] <kriebel> kaiwen, if your hard drive isn't dying, consider making a new user for yourself (to get rid of all configs you've made), or re-installing
[04:11] <cap> kriebel: Tnx.
[04:11] <kaiwen> gdm and kdm works fine.
[04:11] <Omlette> Oh, oops. It sounded like one.
[04:11] <basti> kaiwen, did you check xorg log?
[04:11] <kriebel> sounds like you fubared something
[04:12] <kaiwen> xserver is fine
[04:12] <kaiwen> gui is fine
[04:12] <master_> help me pls for dvr card
[04:12] <Jangari> I get this when I try and run apt-get update: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:12] <kaiwen> the login screen is fine
[04:12] <basti> sudo Jangari?
[04:12] <leo_away> what's the command to find out in which package is a file?
[04:12] <Jangari> i think this may also be why synaptic [ackage manager just doesn't work
[04:12] <Jangari> oh yeah
[04:12] <kriebel> master_: what's your problem?
[04:12] <leo_away> or how can I ask ubottu in which package is the file i'm looking for?
[04:12] <Jangari> of course,
[04:12] <Jangari> :P
[04:13] <unop> leo_away, use apt-file
[04:13] <leo_away> unop: thanks
[04:13] <kaiwen> it's a laptop, and I did a fsck under single user mode, same problem.
[04:13] <unop> leo_away, or if the package is installed.  dpkg -S /path/to/filename
[04:13] <leo_away> unop: no, i'm looking for the package to install it. thanks
[04:14] <unop> leo_away, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[04:14] <basti> kaiwen, did you try to create another user anf then logged in with that one? just to check your conifgs are not messed up
[04:14] <leo_away> unop: i think apt-file works for me, thanks
[04:14] <hiptobecubic> any ideas why skype would be giving me error connecting to server for the last two days? I haven't changed anything that i know of (firewalling etc)?
[04:15] <leo_away> unop: i'm trying to run vitutor but i can't remember the package it comes in
[04:15] <kaiwen> basti yes
[04:15] <kaiwen> basti it's not configs...
[04:15] <carandraug> leo_away: "sudo apt-get install vim-runtime"
[04:15] <user_>  /join #grub
[04:15] <leo_away> carandraug: i thank thee
[04:15] <unop> leo_away, vim-runtime
[04:16] <leo_away> unop: ^_^ thanks
[04:16] <kaiwen> basti it's not the xserver's problem, as xserver loads fine with kdm and gdm. It's once you login-with the gui- that the harddrive runs up and basically doesn't continue to load gnome or kde
[04:16] <kaiwen> is there a way to see what the computer is doing?
[04:16] <kriebel> oh my gosh
[04:16] <Omlette> Well, you could check the system logs.
[04:17]  * kriebel bangs head on table
[04:17] <kaiwen> dmesg is useless
[04:17] <TurboBee> where does ubuntu keep the log file for named/bind?
[04:17] <kriebel> kaiwen, top, ps, vmstat
[04:17] <kaiwen> even better, how do we check what processes are being used
[04:17] <kaiwen> a top
[04:17] <kaiwen> thanks kriebel, i'll monitor it
[04:18] <kriebel> TurboBee, in /var/log where it keeps all the logs, I'd guess
[04:18] <`Matir> Is there any reasonable way to make nmblookup work with a default-DROP iptables
[04:19] <rredd4> how do i change from ubuntu (latest version) to ubuntu ce?
[04:19] <TurboBee> krazihrz I am not seeing it there :/
[04:19] <billenium> !lamp
[04:19] <kaiwen> oh wow, it's increasing my swap
[04:19] <carandraug> I'm having a strange problem when mounting my new drive formated to ext3. It has been nfts for a long time and I never had any problem. I formatted it to ext3 today and now can't mount it. I run "sudo fdisk -l" which gives Id 83 (which I think should be ext3) and when I check dmesg it says "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hdb5". I created the partition with cfdisk
[04:19] <bullgard4> What follows from the 'CONFIG_NVRAM=m' entry in /boot/config-2.6.24-19-generic? ('~$ lsmod | grep nvram' does not produce an output.)
[04:19] <DGM> hi, i installed gnome-core through aptitude hoping that it would install gnome for me on ubuntu server.. It downloaded a lot including x window and a whole load of libraries. but it's not starting still
[04:20] <kaiwen> literally no cpu usage, not used by any process, but the swap is gradually filling up by something
[04:20] <Jordan_U> DGM: Try "startx"
[04:20] <kaiwen> which explains the hd spinning
[04:20] <havocstorm> hey guys
[04:20] <kriebel> kaiwen, do what we've been suggesting and make a new user to log in as
[04:20] <DGM> Jordan_U: gives me: cannot stat: /etc/X11/X (no such file or directory), aborting.
[04:20] <kaiwen> DGM sudo gdm
[04:20] <havocstorm> does anyone know how to install a new ubuntu boot screen?
[04:21] <kriebel> DGM apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:21] <kaiwen> kriebel i did
[04:21] <havocstorm> you know with the orange var that loads
[04:21] <havocstorm> bar*
[04:21] <cman> what is a program to use a webcam in ubuntu?
[04:21] <carandraug> cman: I've heard it's cheese
[04:21] <IdleOne> !cheese | cman
[04:21] <DGM> kriebel: it is installed, kaiwen: trying now
[04:21] <carandraug> !cheese | cman
[04:21] <Jordan_U> DGM: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:21] <cman> ?
[04:21] <DGM> xserver-xorg is installed
[04:21] <IdleOne> !info cheese
[04:21] <carandraug> !info chesse | cman
[04:22] <bobertdos> havocstorm Use Synaptic or apt-cache to search for startupmanager, which is part of a larger package, whose name escapes me.
[04:22] <carandraug> !info cheese | cman
[04:22] <havocstorm> k
[04:22] <kriebel> DGM: I'm calling your dpkg a liar then
[04:22] <havocstorm> thanks bobertdos
[04:22] <Jordan_U> DGM: Odd, /etc/X11/x should be a symlink to Xorg if it's installed
[04:22] <bobertdos> havocstorm: you're welcome
[04:23] <DGM> Jordan_U: it tells me it is installed, i'm going to remove it and reinstall it
[04:23] <Jordan_U> DGM: Do you have a /usr/bin/Xorg?
[04:23] <kaiwen> lol  1 gb of swap so far,,,..... what is using it? anyway to check?
[04:23] <carandraug> IdleOne: what happened to the !cheese?
[04:24] <thebitguru> Hi, does the ubuntu server allow lvm installation through the UI or I have to do that through the command line?
[04:24] <IdleOne> carandraug: it is in the repos but seems ubottu is confused about it
[04:24] <bobertdos> !info cheese
[04:24] <thebitguru> oh, actually I just noticed the menu item :)
[04:25] <DGM> Jordan_U and others: i removed xserver-xorg and then installed it again. it works now.
[04:25] <DGM> thanks hehe
[04:25] <kriebel> I actaully have my own question: why is the disk group not in the Userers and Groups management GUI
[04:25] <Jordan_U> DGM: np :)
[04:25] <DGM> actually.. not it isnt.. it said it started the display manager.. but it's not doing anything
[04:25] <falemant> yo what partition does grub need to be installed to?
[04:25] <kriebel> DGM in the future, you can try dpkg-reconfigure [packagename] instead of re-installing
[04:25] <falemant> i mean if it's not installed to the MBR
[04:25] <deobfuscate> Can anyone help me fix my firefox, it will only run if I do sudo firefox. I have already reinstalled, deleted the .mozilla folder, done a purge unisntall and reinstalled
[04:25] <falemant> i have a /boot partition
[04:26] <falemant> should GRUB be installed to the /boot partition or the / partition?
[04:26] <Jordan_U> DGM: Well, from what you said you don't have a display manager installed ( and you don't really need one )
[04:26] <DGM> fatal server error: could not open default fond 'fixed'
[04:26] <DGM> font*
[04:26] <kriebel> ooooooooooooh
[04:26] <kriebel> you need to install fonts
[04:26] <falemant> anyone know the answer?
[04:26] <DGM> what's that package name kriebel?
[04:26] <Atmethes> how do you install ubuntu in eepc?
[04:27] <kriebel> Atmethes, there's a website for that
[04:27] <bobertdos> falemant: boot, ordinarily.......Usually Ubuntu itself can handle installing Grub on its own. Are you having problems?
[04:27] <kriebel> DGM, xfonts-100dpi for starters
[04:27] <falemant> yea bobertdos i'm having problems
[04:27] <falemant> i just installed  grub again to the /boot partition
[04:27] <falemant> using the livecd
[04:27] <binskipy2u> anyone else have issues lately.. with firefox in ubuntu NOT connecting to add-ons
[04:27] <Jordan_U> DGM: Do you have the metapackage "xorg" ( not xserver-xorg ) installed ?
[04:27] <tyl3r> deobfuscate: after purging and all that try a "sudo find / -name firefox also with *firefox* and delete everything you find and try reinstalling after that...
[04:28] <falemant> i triedto boot and it said it couldnt find the operating system
[04:28] <Jordan_U> DGM: That should bring in the packages you need, including fonts
[04:28] <kaiwen> i lied
[04:28] <kaiwen> the cpu is being used full percent
[04:28] <bobertdos> falemant: Are you dual-booting Ubuntu and Windows?
[04:28] <Khalid> #linucac
[04:28] <fluid> anybody here know much about pulseaudio ?
[04:28] <kaiwen> on top, it show that the iowait is using it all
[04:28] <deobfuscate> tyl3r, So "sudo find / -name firefox"
[04:28] <Jordan_U> !anyone | fluid
[04:28] <falemant> bobertdos: i am dual booting, but i didn't do anything to the MBR
[04:28] <falemant> windows and ubuntu are on separate drives
[04:28] <tyl3r> yes
[04:29] <bobertdos> falemant: Which did you install first?
[04:29] <falemant> windows
[04:29] <fluid> im looking for someone that can say more than "be sure gnome sounds are routed through pulse"... i need to know how to change the default device for it. it is not working in the gnome sound props ;)
[04:29] <deakillo> hi
[04:29] <deakillo> how can i change the language?
[04:29] <tyl3r> also try finding other files including firefox in name with a star at beginning and end....should find all let of firefox
[04:29] <adakos> Good evening. I was wondering if it was possible to use an ubuntu computer with multiple NIC's as a switch (as well as a router, at some point)
[04:29] <deakillo> from english to spanish?
[04:29] <kriebel> kaiwen, iowait isn't a process, it's a clasification of what your kernel is going for some amount of time
[04:29] <falemant> aight just to put it to bed, when i try to boot from the drive with ubuntu on it (from the one time boot menu) it says it can't find an operating system and  i have to restart
[04:29] <kriebel> adakos, yes, google for adding interfaces to a bridge
[04:29] <falemant> windows boots just fine because i didnt touch the mbr and it's on a different drive
[04:30] <kaiwen> kriebel, it's interesting, b/c the swap is being filled and that seems to be the problem, i just don't know what.
[04:30] <tyl3r> thats how I solved such problems...if it does not start after that, post the error message if you start firefox from terminal directly
[04:30] <billenium> What is a command to find other computers on your network/connect to them? ( via terminal only! )
[04:30] <kriebel> kaiwen: this is called a runaway process... something is very broke
[04:30] <kriebel> if you don't know how to find it, I suggest your re-install
[04:30] <bobertdos> falemant: As is frequently the case, it sounds like Windows bootloader has taken control. Have you read the wiki article on reinstalling grub?
[04:30] <kaiwen> booyah
[04:31] <Jordan_U> fluid: Have you tried padevchooser ?
[04:31] <kriebel> billenium, what protocol?
[04:31] <kaiwen> kriebel scim launer went awol
[04:31] <pen> hey
[04:31] <fluid> just looked at it. it doesnt seem to do what i need.
[04:31] <falemant> what do you mean that windows bootloader has taken control?
[04:31] <falemant> i have read that wiki article
[04:31] <kaiwen> kriebel let me see if my gui works now
[04:31] <falemant> in fact i did the whole grub reinstall thing
[04:31] <pen> does anyone here know why there is no man.conf in etc?
[04:31] <falemant> i havent restarted since then
[04:31] <falemant> though
[04:31] <tyl3r> billenium, try a broadcast ping...ping -b to broadcast address...or just use a scanner
[04:31] <FloodBot1> falemant: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <pen> I can't colorize my man page
[04:31] <billenium> okay
[04:31] <Guest46169> i have a quik noobish question. i dowloaded the darwinia demo. how to install with thew commands?
[04:31] <kriebel> pen: man only does one thing
[04:31] <pen> kriebel, but in arch you can change it
[04:31] <kriebel> they come in colors?
[04:31] <kriebel> wtf for?
[04:32] <fluid> the problem is that i have nvidia onboard sound, and a usb headset. no matter what i set my gnome sounds to and how they test, they always come out of the headset when i do something that triggers a sound. (testing plays through the nvidia card, but not the actual end result)
[04:32] <pen> kriebel, yes, for better view
[04:32] <carandraug> pen: man is less I think
[04:32] <mindrape> billenium:
[04:32] <mindrape> you can use nmap to enumerate
[04:32] <DGM> i got it to start, i only get an error about the fastuserswitch applet
[04:32] <pen> carandraug, I want to use more to view it
[04:32] <DGM> when i'm in gnome
[04:32] <bobertdos> falemant: Does this look familiar?
[04:32] <bobertdos> !grub > falemant
[04:32] <falemant> ok ubottu
[04:32] <mindrape> nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/26   as an example...
[04:32] <kaiwen> lol
[04:32] <kaiwen> LOL
[04:32] <falemant> yeah i've read and done that
[04:32] <kriebel> DGM, that's because you need to be using GDM for that to work.  it's fine
[04:32] <bullgard4> What follows from the 'CONFIG_NVRAM=m' entry in /boot/config-2.6.24-19-generic? ('~$ lsmod | grep nvram' does not produce an output.)
[04:32] <kaiwen> !ubottu
[04:32] <falemant> i don't think that is going to help me
[04:32] <kaiwen> "bot"
[04:32] <pen> so how do I change it
[04:32] <falemant> i dont thnk this chat is going to help me
[04:33] <pen> I want to use more to view manpage
[04:33] <carandraug> pen: /etc/manpath.config
[04:33] <DGM> kriebel: ah right, i'll remove the applet the next reboot. Thanks
[04:33] <pen> carandraug, where to change?
[04:33] <pen> carandraug, tell me where in the file should I change to more?
[04:33] <carandraug> pen: I don't know. I just checked man man and saw where it keeps the configuration file
[04:34] <fluid> i honestly think its cause i installed with the headset connected. im not going to reinstall for this. lol.
[04:34] <vbman11> is there a Linux equivalent to MyScript Notes?
[04:34] <quietus> if i specify a user when i mount a ntfs partition, they will be the default owner regardless of whether ntfs can handle permissions right?
[04:34] <ballzee-> can you chaqnge Ubuntu to kUbuntu ?
[04:34] <kaiwen> ahhh
[04:34] <kaiwen> scim-launcher was the culprit
[04:34] <billenium> !lamp
[04:35] <rickyzone> yballzee: yep
[04:35] <kaiwen> it took up allmy swap, so it prevented anything else to continue
[04:35] <vbman11> ballzee-: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <vbman11> ballzee-: it adds the kde session to ubuntu
[04:35] <quietus> if i specify a user when i mount a ntfs partition, they will be the default owner regardless of whether ntfs can handle permissions right?
[04:35]  * kriebel goes to sleep
[04:36] <quietus> vbman11: if i specify a user when i mount a ntfs partition, they will be the default owner regardless of whether ntfs can handle permissions right?
[04:36] <Jordan_U> kaiwen: To find what is using the most memory try "top -bn1 | head"
[04:36] <ballzee-> i already have kde it says its 4.0 but everything i see is 3.5.9
[04:36] <kaiwen> Jordan_U, pressing "m" in top worked for me
[04:36] <kaiwen> Jordan_U thansk though
[04:36] <vbman11> quietus: I don't know
[04:37] <quietus> vbman11: thanks anyways
[04:37] <deakillo> hi i just install ubuntu.. but i want to change the default language which is english.. how can i do that?
[04:37] <vbman11> ballzee-: so what is your problem
[04:37] <kaiwen> !language
[04:37] <kaiwen> woops
[04:38] <quietus> there was an option while you where installing wasn't there?
[04:38] <DGM> lol
[04:38] <vbman11> kaiwen: lol
[04:38] <nickgarvey> kaiwen: heh
[04:38] <ballzee-> i just wanted to see 4.1 i guess
[04:38] <tyl3r> anyone suceeded in getting giganews accelerator work under wine ?
[04:38] <carandraug> pen: to create your own configuration file of man, it should be "~/.manpath". I don't see anything in man man to change that. Maybe the option --pager
[04:38] <kaiwen> ballzee, then you need to add the 4.1 repos
[04:39] <vbman11> ballzee-: well I don't know how to fix that, I use gnome
[04:39] <leo_away> tyl3r: you are better off checking winehq
[04:39] <kaiwen> ballze, can you say your prob. again?
[04:39] <tyl3r> kk
[04:39] <leo_away> tyl3r: there is an application database in their site
[04:39] <Jordan_U> deakillo: System -> Administration -> Language Support
[04:40] <tyl3r> been their already & searched the toppics
[04:40] <tyl3r> not in the DB also
[04:40] <tyl3r> but some guys managed installing it though...
[04:40] <deakillo> Jordan_U: you have idea where is that option in xubunut?
[04:40] <deakillo> i cant found it
[04:40] <chamunks> Whats a good IDS for a person whose new to the whole concept
[04:41] <kaiwen> ah gosh scim-launcher just won't die!
[04:41] <deakillo> i found it
[04:41] <deakillo> never mind
[04:41] <tyl3r> I think newsreaders is still a negative point in linux....lottanzb etc is good for binaries etc. but text readers on windows seem more comfortable to me. Wonder why there is a gap in the open source world....or maybe I dont know the right ones
[04:42] <slimz> hey guys i just did a clean install of 8.04, however when i try to sudo, i get this error ; sudo: unable to resolve host slimz-laptop
[04:42] <slimz> whatever command I use still works though
[04:42] <usser> slimz, thats a known bug hang on
[04:42] <Theaxiom> When I share folders with the Guest OS in vbox (Vista), where do the shared folders appear?
[04:42] <usser> sudo: unable to resolve host
[04:42] <tyl3r> hmm, slimz, check /etc/hostname  .... can you ping your localhost ?
[04:43] <tv7497> guys little help with port forwarding i am in my router home page and about to add port 80 under NAT - virtual servers what should i give to custom server and server ip address
[04:43] <usser> slimz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723361
[04:43] <dmoerner> slimz, remove .domain entries from /etc/hosts
[04:43] <slimz> tyl3r, yes i can ping it
[04:43] <carandraug> I've just erased an HD and created an ext3 partition with cfdisk that I can't mount. I check dmesg and it says "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hdb5". Ran "sudo fdisk -l" which gave Id 83 (which I think should be ext3). It was nfts for a long time and never gave problems.
[04:43] <vbman11> so is there a linux equivalent to MyScript Notes?
[04:43] <chamunks> Whats a good IDS (intrusion detection system) for a person whose new to the whole concept
[04:43] <Jordan_U> tv7497: http://portforward.com/routers.htm
[04:43] <dmoerner> carandraug, you still have to use mke2fs -j to create the filesystem. cfdisk doesn't do that for you
[04:44] <carandraug> dmoerner: oh! ok, thanks. I'll try that. But why does fdisk -l show Id 83 then?
[04:45] <slimz> usser, it worked, thanks!
[04:45] <kaiwen> seems scim has a bug....
[04:45] <kaiwen> what it does is, it continues to open itself, basically eating up all the memory.
[04:45] <fluid> this is so messed up...
[04:46] <pen> kaiwen, you can try gcin?
[04:46] <dmoerner> carandraug, that's a generic listing for any linux fs. it could be reiser, ext2, ext3, xfs, etc.
[04:46] <kaiwen> gcin is dependent on scim, scorrect?
[04:46] <kaiwen> pen
[04:46] <carandraug> dmoerner: ok. Thanks
[04:46] <pen> kaiwen, no
[04:47] <kaiwen> pen i'm doing a purge on scim right now
[04:47] <kaiwen> !gcin
[04:47] <fluid> sound events, music/videos, audio conferencing are all set in gnome-sound-properties to Nvidia CK804, testing, rhythmbox, everything works...but actual system event sounds are playing through a seperate device.
[04:47] <tv7497> Jordan_U: thanx bro !!
[04:47] <Jordan_U> tv7497: np
[04:48] <php6th> when i plug a USB drive, and i unplug it again, the same drive appears repeated in the file browser, how to fix?
[04:48] <kaiwen> I'll try gcin. thanks pen
[04:48] <kaiwen> php6th keep teh drive in?
[04:48] <tv7497> Jordan_U: do i need to restart my router ?
[04:48] <Jordan_U> tv7497: I doubt it
[04:48] <pen> kaiwen, np
[04:48] <php6th> kaiwen: it is in
[04:49] <slimz> anyone know why i can't see the dns names of pcs on my network, i can ping their ip's
[04:49] <kaiwen> php6th you prob. need to unmount it first before you unplug aka eject
[04:49] <php6th> kaiwen: but i unmouted and the drive still repeated 15 times
[04:49] <zach__> is there a way to get grub to auto create a boot menu from what's in /boot/?
[04:49] <kaiwen> php6th, weird... under gnome or kde?
[04:49] <php6th> kaiwen: gnome
[04:50] <kaiwen> php6th hmm idk... i use kde
[04:50] <kaiwen> sry
[04:50] <kaiwen> well guys i g2g
[04:50] <kaiwen> i think it got it working
[04:50] <kaiwen> thanks all
[04:50] <FloodBot1> kaiwen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <kaiwen> nite
[04:50] <grendal_prime>  god this pisses me off. whenever i connect to my vpn to work..i loose all dns resolution for the rest of the internet.
[04:50] <php6th> Help, when i plug a USB drive, and i unplug it again, the same drive appears repeated 15 TIMES in the file browser , how to fix?
[04:51] <blitz> php6th: your syslogs show anything weird?
[04:51] <tv7497> Jordan_U: does this works ? http://tv.kicks-ass.org
[04:51] <php6th> blitz: how to check syslogs?
[04:51] <tyl3r> grendal, can you ping your dns assigned after vpn ?
[04:52] <tyl3r> or is this restriction from your company...
[04:52] <bolrog> i cannot get my comp to boot from hd after i install ubuntu server (hardy - it boots fine from cd), it gives me "Invalid boot diskette."  I have checked the bios settings, and they all seem to be correct (floppy ide controller disabled, hd first boot device), but for whatever reason it doesnt boot.  i booted ubuntu desktop from the livecd (hardy) and i can see all of the installed files. ...
[04:52] <bolrog> ...anybody know of anything else i should check?
[04:53] <bri> hey, guys, how much does it take for www.cshell.gr to load in your browser? i'm doing some performance checks and would appreciate if you could take 10 secs of your time to help me.
[04:53] <bri> thanks
[04:53] <bolrog> bri: about 7 secs
[04:53] <fluid> why are my problems always things noone knows the answer to. lol. :(
[04:53] <bri> where are you from bolrog?
[04:54] <bolrog> bri: you still have 3 seconds of my time  ;-)
[04:54] <bri> lol
[04:54] <bolrog> bri colorado, usa
[04:54] <bri> ow, greetings from greece.
[04:54] <Jordan_U> tv7497: "A username and password are being requested by http://tv.kicks-ass.org. The site says: "DSL Router""
[04:54] <SeaPhor> fluid, i am having sound issues to, separate but still sound
[04:54] <bolrog> bri: greetings from the us
[04:54] <bri> :p
[04:54] <SeaPhor> *too
[04:54] <fire122> hey, can anyone help me repartition my hd for ubuntu
[04:55] <tv7497> Jordan_U: ell its not going to my home page but going to my router
[04:55] <carandraug> fire122: what do you want to do?
[04:55] <bri> bolrog: i haven't slept for long hours trying to finetune my lighttpd.
[04:55] <Bhavesh> ok mailscanner/postfix/clamav/spamassasin how's that combo?
[04:55] <bri> and it gets messy if you do not have a fast box.
[04:55] <bolrog> bolrog: i imagine it would be a little late there...
[04:56] <bri> bolrog: yeah, you got it.
[04:56] <fire122> well i tried it before, and the install failed for ubuntu, and now i just going to re partintion and reformat the hd and then install
[04:57] <Qster> anyone know how to turn off hardware acceleration for flash?
[04:57] <Bhavesh> how can u get uuid of a partition?
[04:57] <bri> bolrog: do you think the 7secs is a long loadtime?
[04:57] <Jordan_U> !uudi | Bhavesh
[04:57] <carandraug> fire122: you'll only have Ubuntu on that computer? DO you want to assign different partitions to /home or another directory?
[04:57] <Jordan_U> !uuid | Bhavesh
[04:58] <Bhavesh> thank you
[04:58] <fire122> lol idk im new to all this, my brother first had me set up with DSL (damn small linux) and i want to get the ubuntu, how would u sugest i partition?
[04:58] <Bhavesh> i was told it's better to mount a partition using uuid then /dev/hdxxx thing
[04:58] <carandraug> Bhavesh: ls -lF /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[04:59] <Bhavesh> carandraug thank you
[04:59] <bolrog> bri: wel, im fairly patient, so for me, no.  but, i do think that for others it could be.  its a subjective question i guess.  the real question is where is the bottleneck
[04:59] <carandraug> Bhavesh: no problem
[05:00] <sasha79> hello
[05:00] <carandraug> fire122: /home in one partition, and the rest for /, leaving 1.5x your ram for swap
[05:00] <fluid> here we go again, another reboot and a prayer for this issue to die. lol
[05:00] <Bhavesh> funny .. i have two lvm volumes one mirrired set other striped but in ls -lF /dev/disk/by-uuid only lvm mirros shows up
[05:01] <grendal_prime> tyl3r: its not a restriction imposed by the company.
[05:01] <fire122> okay, now how much should i put per partition?
[05:01] <cwill747> part
[05:02] <tyl3r> can you ping dns in intranet ?
[05:02] <tyl3r> server names I mean...
[05:02] <tyl3r> what kind of vpn ?
[05:03] <tv7497> guys can any one help a little i screwed up my LAMP i guess if i try to access my home page of apache it goes to my router no matter how many time you port forward
[05:03] <carandraug> fire122: it depends. Will you have many files (music files, images or documents that take a lot of space) or will you take more space with inatalled software? Software installed with wine counts as files. Also, how much ram do you have and how big is your hd?
[05:04] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, did you get fixed?
[05:04] <Bhavesh> fire122 : i have 40G hdd, i have it partition like so,. others may or may not agree  1G /, 100mb /boot, 1G /tmp, 3GB /user, 3GB /var 2GB swap, and rest for /home
[05:04] <fire122> my hd is a 45.0g  and i have a 256 stick and i have a 128 stick. and i will have both alot of music and apps
[05:05] <grendal_prime> its werd..umm its openvpn..
[05:05] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: hi . no but i am able to ping it from usb mode.
[05:05] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, usb mode?
[05:05] <grendal_prime> like right now if i look at the resolve.conf its the dns for my home service provider.  As soon as i connect to the openvpn server its like those do not apply for the system anymore.
[05:06] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: :) i am connection my router through usb
[05:06] <bullgard4> What follows from the 'CONFIG_NVRAM=m' entry in /boot/config-2.6.24-19-generic? ('~$ lsmod | grep nvram' does not produce an output.)
[05:06] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: connecting*
[05:06] <grendal_prime> let me reconnect and ill try and ping them but ummm pretty sure they will not work..ill loose my connection here to so ill brb.
[05:06] <cj> is there a channel for ubuntu gnome folks?
[05:07] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, ahhh, hrmmm, never done that,,,, interesting....
[05:07] <murlidhar> cj: you are right at the place
[05:07] <grendal_prime> oh and tyl3r im usint networkmanager to do this.  I dont seem to have this problem if i connect via the terminal.
[05:07] <tyl3r> that seems correct. You get assigned a different standard gateway after connecting to the vpn....so in a different subnet so your local dns router is not reacheable anymore
[05:07] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: it worked out of the box
[05:08] <zach__> okay so I moved /boot
[05:08] <tyl3r> actually you should get assigned new dns servers from your company also....
[05:08] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: ifconfig shows eth1 .
[05:08] <grendal_prime> you know like just create a connection and restart openvpn client. i dont seem to have this problem Im pretty sure it has something to do with knetworkmanager.
[05:08] <grendal_prime> I would think so..
[05:08] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, wait, u mean wireless usb?
[05:08] <grendal_prime> but they dont seem to work from here for some reason.
[05:08] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: nope wired one
[05:08] <carandraug> fire122: your definition of lot of music is certainly different than mine. Your whole HD wouldn't be enough for mine. Anyway, I think 500Mb for swap, 10Gigas for / and the rest for /home.
[05:09] <pantaloon> man, movies keep freezing movie player :( help?
[05:09] <deakillo> hi what was the command to check my hd?
[05:09] <deakillo> i forgot
[05:09] <deakillo> sorry
[05:09] <pantaloon> they play for a little and then it freezes
[05:09] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: mine is dlink GLB502T router . google it for usb in linux . u will find interesting results
[05:09] <fire122> ur running ubuntu 2 correct?
[05:09] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, what about lsusb ?
[05:10] <tyl3r> maybe install wireshark or similar and try accessing google.de and have a look at where the dns request is send or what else happens....vpn is always tricky to debug I think...
[05:10] <carandraug> fire122: I'm running Ubuntu in one computer, archlinux in the laptop and Debian in another computer
[05:10] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: it shows as texas instruments as far as i remember
[05:10] <tyl3r> had a similar problem like you, but that was on a ipsec client on windows
[05:10] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0451:6060 Texas Instruments, Inc. RNDIS/BeWAN ADSL2+
[05:10] <cj> murlidhar: I hear canonical is hiring an ubuntu package mantainer.  have you heard anything about this?
[05:10] <murlidhar> cj: nope
[05:11] <murlidhar> cj: i didn't hear
[05:11] <tv7497> guys little bit help needed i guess i have screwed up my LAMP
[05:11] <pantaloon> anyone know what I should do? Maybe it's bad codecs? VNC doesn't freeze
[05:11] <blitz> use VLC instead.
[05:12] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, are you using ICS?
[05:12] <fire122> ahh okay, well if you could walk me threw the partioning with my other comp which is getting ready to have ubuntu on it.
[05:12] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: can u tell me what are the packages required for sound to work.  i did a base installation
[05:12] <carandraug> fire122: also, when addressing me, start with my nick otherwise I won't be warned of your message. Anyway, to answer your initial problem, just put in the Ubuntu CD and go manual partioning
[05:12] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: what is ICS?
[05:13] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, Internet Connection Sharing
[05:13] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: nope .
[05:13] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, depends on your sound device
[05:13] <carandraug> fire122: sure, I can walk you through. Let me get my Ubuntu CD so we both seeing the same windows
[05:13] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: got a built-in intel card
[05:14] <ubuntunub> who here is knowledgeable in partitioning and dual booting using GRUB?
[05:14] <SJrX> I know that if I do something like dd if=/dev/hda of=/home/hddbackup. I can wipe the hard disk and restore it later. I know if I do dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/home/hddbackup. I can mount the partition in Linux. Is there a way I can do both?
[05:14] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, i am having sound issues atmm also,, so i am not best one to ask,, lol
[05:14] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: i am sure sound device is supported since gutsy and feisty worked out of box
[05:14] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: lol
[05:14] <ubuntunub> what's his sound hardware?
 okay, let me know when ur ready
[05:14] <ubuntunub> intel what?
[05:14] <sasha79> ﻿are there any bittorent applications that can be run as a daemon
[05:15] <ubuntunub> because i just solved a problem with mine
[05:15] <murlidhar> ubuntunub: wait a sec
[05:15] <ubuntunub> remember tho i'm a nub, i can't do much
[05:15] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, i have switched to OSS and some things are much better, others dont work at all
[05:15] <ubuntunub> i've been using linux for all of 3 hours
[05:15] <murlidhar> ubuntunub:    product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controll
[05:15] <ubuntunub> are you using headphones?
[05:15] <carandraug> fire122: go on and in partioning choose manual. I'll be there in one minute
[05:15] <ubuntunub> longshot...
[05:16] <ubuntunub> (i'm assuming you have no sound)
[05:16] <spacenvadr> anyone know how i could autostart an app in hardy in quiet mode?
[05:16] <blitz> murlidhar: I had issues until making sure the pulseaudio process was running and setting up most of my programs (movie players, winecfg, etc.) for OSS
[05:16] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: well i got alsa and the latest one . i forgot the name of it  working in my previous installation .
[05:16] <spacenvadr> i'd like tasque to open in the tray w/o opening the window
[05:16] <fire122> okay im already there
[05:17] <Bhavesh> any idea why would one of my lvm volume ( mirroed set) show up under /dev/disk/by-uuid, but other lvm volume ( stripped set) would not?
[05:17] <blitz> murlidhar: I also use "padsp" for wine apps, like "padsp wine Wow.exe"
[05:17] <tv7497> guys anyone little help with lamp plz
 im already there
[05:17] <zach__> a word to the wise NEVER MAKE A SEPARATE PARTITION FOR /BOOT/
[05:17] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, i have a 8-channel sound card so i have to use OSS to get full use, but some things dont work,,,
[05:17] <murlidhar> ubuntunub: i am using a base installation that's why i don't have any sound . my other hardy distro is working absolutely fine
[05:17] <grendal_prime> wow thats werid
[05:17] <linkmaster03> where does ubuntu install java to?
[05:17] <Bhavesh> and the volume is currently mounted but i used /dev/lvm-stripped/lvm1
[05:17] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: oh i c
[05:17] <grendal_prime> tyl3r:  it doesnt break this connection.
[05:18] <tyl3r> you mean the current network connected to this channel ?
[05:18] <murlidhar> linkmaster03: probably in /usr/bin/ not sure
[05:18] <grendal_prime> ok well if i try and browse to anything though its totally broke...like google...(high and mighty) does not resolve
[05:18] <KarlosNino> hi
[05:18] <ubuntunub> murlidhar: ok i dont even know why im trying to help... i only just installed my first linux distro for first time ever, not like i can help
[05:18] <tyl3r> can you access google via ip ? 72.14.221.104
[05:18] <carandraug> fire122: ok. I'm simulating the installation in my laptop. You're with Ubuntu 8.04 too?
[05:18] <Ashfire908> What's the virtual file thing used by gnome that was new in 8.04?
[05:19] <grendal_prime> tyl3r: and...now all the sudden it has decided to work???
[05:19] <zach__> there's a list somewhere of previously executed commands in bash right?
[05:19] <grendal_prime> fkn damn it...what the hell.
[05:19] <murlidhar> Bhavesh: any idea of the packages required to install pulseaudio . me using a base installation
[05:19] <linkmaster03> murlidhar: well i have the extractor to install. it makes the jre1.6.0_10 directory, and I need to know where to run the extractor from
[05:19] <Matir`> zach__, .bash_history
[05:19] <SeaPhor> ubuntunub, because thats what we do ;-)
[05:19] <tyl3r> heh
[05:19] <Bhavesh> tyl3r you would be surprised what you can do :), even if you answer a question that someone experienced similar problem to yours even when installing
[05:19] <ubuntunub> Is it normal if after installing Ubuntu onto a hard drive with Vista on another partition (and using GRUB bootloader), booting into Vista for first time had to run a SCANDISK?
[05:19] <usser> zach__, ~/.bash_history
[05:20] <SeaPhor> ubuntunub, yes
[05:20] <murlidhar> linkmaster03: jave-jre is already in the repos . why trying to install it manually
[05:20] <Flannel> grendal_prime: please watch your language
[05:20] <carandraug> fire122: well, go selecting all devices that appear and in the bottom choose "delete partition"
[05:20] <Bhavesh> should I reboot to see if my other partition by uuid shows up?
 i think so, its the i386
[05:20] <zach__> thanks Matir` usser
[05:20] <linkmaster03> murlidhar: cause the repos are outdates
[05:20] <tyl3r> well, be happy grendal...but you dont want to start working now isnt it ? what country are you from ?
[05:20] <grendal_prime> oops...did i type that or just think it??
[05:20] <grendal_prime> sorry...
[05:20] <ubuntunub> SeaPhor: so nothing to worry about then, good
[05:20] <mjoya> does anyone know how to create an update cd for use with synaptic
[05:20] <murlidhar> linkmaster03: is the package is a binary .that is .bin file
[05:20] <SeaPhor> ubuntunub, not usually a problem ;-)
[05:21] <tyl3r> Bhavesh, sorry I dont know what you mean....well, maybe cause its 7 in the morning and I did not sleep yet
[05:21] <linkmaster03> murlidhar: yes the extractor from the java site is .bin
[05:21] <Jacob_Laptop> setkeh you are a fucking tard
[05:21] <carandraug> fire122: probably is if you downloaded it recently. Anyway, select them one by one and choose delete partition
[05:21] <grendal_prime> mjoya: look into apt-mirror
[05:21] <php6th> Help, UBUNTU is very slow today.... takes 5 minutes to open nautilys
[05:21] <murlidhar> Jacob_Laptop: please be nice
[05:21] <usser> linkmaster03, its not outdated java 6 update 7 is in the repos the latest one
[05:21] <Jacob_Laptop> setkeh you might want to talk about the podcast in #linux or #centos
[05:21] <SeaPhor> !ops | Jacob_Laptop
[05:22] <tyl3r> php6th, check top or learn to be more patient ;)
[05:22] <linkmaster03> usser: no, u10 is.
[05:22] <Bhavesh> tyl3r .. even if you just installed, you may be able to answer a question don't under estimate your experience
[05:22] <ubuntunub> SeaPhor: If I had 150GB of HDD space, with 140GB Vista partition and a 10GB empty partition (reserved for Ubuntu), and installed Ubuntu using the initial "drag and slide" option and set Ubuntu to 10GB, and it created a 20GB partition for Ubuntu and shrank Vista partition by 10GB, is that "normal"?
[05:22] <Flannel> setkeh: Please don't ask here.
[05:22] <Flannel> setkeh: oh, that was... ages ago.
[05:22] <Blacktides> Hello I'm looking for someone to help me with setting up dual monitors in Ubuntu.
[05:22] <carandraug> fire122: until all you see is free space
[05:22] <Flannel> Jacob_Laptop: Please watch your language.
[05:22] <Jacob_Laptop> murlidhar SeaPhor calm down no need to fret, he is my mate, i screw with him all te time
[05:22] <ubuntunub> SeaPhor: meaning Vista is now 130GB partition, and Ubuntu 20GB
[05:22] <Flannel> Jacob_Laptop: Not here you don't.
[05:22] <xim__> remember back when they had cd burning software that would burn disc at once without putting track pauses in between each track?  do they not do that anymore at all? brasero wont do it, anyone know software that will?
 okay i have all the free space
[05:23] <Ashfire908> Nevermind.
[05:23] <NewUser> hi all..sometimes my Ubuntu will freeze up. ie, i cant click on anything and get a response..also, i notice that the task bar goes all grey
[05:23] <Jacob_Laptop> Flannel shut up
[05:23] <Bhavesh> woot it worked
[05:23] <NewUser> is this a common problem?
[05:23] <zach__> i deleted everything in /boot/
[05:23] <murlidhar> ubuntunub: no it is not normal but it doesn't hurt either ;)
[05:23] <zach__> i cannot reboot
[05:23] <zach__> HAHA!
[05:23] <tyl3r> you are right bhavesh, its never a shame even if a probably solution suggested might be wrong....
[05:23] <usser> linkmaster03, ah i see.
[05:23] <murlidhar> zach__: lol
[05:23] <ubuntunub> murlidhar: yes it hurts, since i wanted 140GB for my Vista install :(
[05:23] <carandraug> fire122: now, select the free space and then click in new partition
[05:24] <SeaPhor> sorry Flannel but had to,
[05:24] <arvind_khadri> it really needs a man to ask a op to shut up
[05:24] <Flannel> SeaPhor: No worries.
[05:24] <mohkohn> I am getting this error and dropping to busybox on an eeepc 4g
[05:24] <ubuntunub> murlidhar: i was under the impression that it would automatically detect the 10GB empty partition and just use that, instead of creating yet another 10GB partition and fusing the 2 together
[05:24] <zach__> murlidhar, and x keeps crashing on me
[05:24] <zach__> this is fabulous
[05:24] <murlidhar> ubuntunub: hmm u can again resize it back to 10 GB
[05:24] <mohkohn> usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -71
[05:24] <ubuntunub> murlidhar: "safely", for both OSes?
[05:24] <Jacob_Laptop> CentOS IS BETTER THAN UBU
 okay i did that
[05:25] <ubuntunub> murlidhar: how? from within Ubuntu or Vista?
[05:25] <Flannel> Jacob_Laptop: please stop.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:25] <carandraug> fire122: you choose primary partition, 500megabytes, in the beggining and to use as swap
[05:25] <Jacob_Laptop> Flannel how bout no
[05:25] <Jacob_Laptop> ?
[05:25]  * ubuntunub thinks the nerd value in this chat is high
[05:25] <bobertdos1> NewUser: Normally things do stay pretty stable, but you know, Compiz can cause a fair amount of headaches sometimes. Have you tried switching Visual Effects to None?
[05:25] <php6th> CENTOS s better??? wow... ok guys lets reinstall
[05:25] <tyl3r> ok, so lets all log off now
[05:25] <murlidhar> ubuntunub: yes is an  application that can resize it . but i won't recommend it
[05:25] <Flannel> php6th: just ignore it
[05:26] <grendal_prime> ubuntunub:  I like to refer to it as nerd wattage.
[05:26] <carandraug> fire122: then, you select free space again to create a new partition. This time you select, primary partition, 10000Mb, in the beggining, use ext3 and mount point as "/"
[05:26] <falemant> hey i finally got grub to load up
[05:26] <grendal_prime> like you know brain wattage..
[05:26] <falemant> but now i have a new problem
[05:27] <falemant> when i try to loadup ubuntu
[05:27] <ubuntunub> grendal_prime: we all really need to get laid.
[05:27] <falemant> it says 'no such partition'
[05:27] <falemant> or something  similar
[05:27] <ubuntunub> or at least i do :/
[05:27] <FloodBot1> falemant: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:27] <arvind_khadri> !enter| falemant
[05:27] <php6th> totem play is eating my processor, how to decrease the priority?
[05:27] <carandraug> fire122: you're still there?
[05:27] <murlidhar> anyone know of the  packages required for installing pulseaudio. i am using base installation.
[05:27] <zach__> and i destroyed my install
[05:27] <zach__> fantastic
[05:27] <arvind_khadri> php6th, nice
[05:27] <ubuntunub> god Pidgin IRC is handicapped
[05:27] <NewUser> bobretdosl, i have no visual effects or compiz
[05:27] <grendal_prime> ubuntunub: speak for yourself..the old lady flat wore me out tonight
[05:27] <Flannel> ubuntunub: We suggest xchat
 okay i did all that
 koay i did all that
[05:28] <murlidhar> zach__: there is recovery mode in alternate install cd but i am not sure  how it works . maybe u could try it
[05:28] <carandraug> fire122: with the rest of free space, make a new partition, ext3 as well, and select /home as mount point
[05:28] <zach__> murlidhar, i'm starting over and i will NEVER EVER MAKE /BOOT/ A DIFFERENT PARTITION
[05:28] <falemant> so yea...what does this 'no such partition' thing mean?
[05:28] <bobertdos1> NewUser: Did you check System=>Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects?
[05:29] <murlidhar> zach__: i never needed it to make a different /boot partition .
 okay all that in the same partition?
[05:30] <zach__> murlidhar, i partitioned these drives a long time ago when I was naiive and stupid
[05:30] <zach__> and i decided it would be fine to switch back
[05:30] <arvind_khadri> NewUser, have you enabled it??
[05:30] <zach__> oh god what a mistake
[05:30] <carandraug> fire122: what do you mean same partition? you should have a total of 3 partitions and no free space after that
[05:30] <ubuntunub> When you install a 10GB Ubuntu install using the Guided mode "slider", is that 10GB including the pagefile?
[05:31] <murlidhar> zach__: actually do u know what is the purpose of making a different boot partition.? i really don't know
[05:31] <ubuntunub> because it doesn't let u specify pagefile space which is odd
[05:31] <arvind_khadri> !u > murlidhar
[05:31] <zach__> murlidhar, it's useless... don't ever do it
[05:31] <murlidhar> ubuntunub: linux doesn't need page files
[05:31] <bobertdos1> zach__: Ah, don't be too hard on yourself about it. Trial and error is pretty much a given when you first learn the Unix environment.
[05:31] <ubuntunub> swap space...
[05:31] <ubuntunub> same thing
[05:31] <murlidhar> arvind_khadri: :(  sorry
 okay what is for the second? partiton?
[05:31] <arvind_khadri> murlidhar, its ok... we all do that... :)
[05:32] <ubuntunub> murlidhar: hardy heron install guides talk about swap space! so i don't know what you mean
[05:32] <zach__> bobertdos1, the problem is I have a flight to catch and I need this rig up and fixed like 6 hours ago
[05:32] <murlidhar> ubuntunub: swap is something when u run out ram .
[05:32] <ubuntunub> don't worry your flight will probably be cancelled anyway, judging from the past 2 days of news
[05:33] <SeaPhor> murlidhar, i have a separate /home, and a separate /var, and ftp is dir to another but thats all i do,, the boot is left, i am a n00b but i dont see why to do a separate /boot
[05:33] <carandraug> fire122: I think you missed one of my lines. 1- 500Mb of swap area, 10000Mb as ext3 for / and the rest as ext3 for /home. Do you have two HD?
[05:33] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: me a noob too bro ;)
[05:33] <_marianne__> hiya
[05:34] <murlidhar> SeaPhor: i don't use a different /boot partition.
 no just one hd
[05:35] <koonewton> what time is it now?
[05:35] <carandraug> fire122: it should appear something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/42072/
[05:35] <IntangibleLiquid> 11:30 am
[05:35] <murlidhar> anyone know of the  packages required for installing pulseaudio. i am using base installation.
[05:35] <ubuntunub> safe to say i'm the noobiest one here folks
[05:35] <ubuntunub> so no worries, don't slit your wrists just yet
[05:35] <carandraug> koonewton: 5:35am
[05:36] <murlidhar> ubuntunub: everybody was a noob when they started out linux
[05:36] <koonewton> carandraug:thanks
[05:36] <ubuntunub> i feel like im 50
[05:36] <bobertdos1> murlidhar: In Hardy? Because Pulse is installed by default in Hardy...........
[05:36] <ubuntunub> seems too complicated to learn
[05:37] <bobertdos1> ubuntunub: It's just different, takes some getting used to, and the right people to help you :)
[05:37] <carandraug> ubuntunub: I think it's worth it. And it's not that complicated. One only has to get the logic and then everything starts making sense
 okay i got the 3 partitions set now what?
[05:38] <murlidhar> bobertdos1: i did a base installation
[05:38] <carandraug> fire122: click on forward
[05:38] <ubuntunub> i feel like making my wallpaper Linus Torvalds
[05:38] <ubuntunub> a big mughost
[05:38] <ubuntunub> mugshot*
[05:38] <ubuntunub> typing = fail
[05:38] <FloodBot1> ubuntunub: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:38] <Flannel> !offtopic
[05:39] <ubuntunub> overall i much prefer the linux environment... more sophisticated in a way
[05:39] <ubuntunub> hard to explain
[05:39] <bobertdos1> murlidhar: If by 'base" you mean "minimalistic" then I guess I'd just search the repos for most of what you need. Actually, you could probably use some of the apt-cache options to list dependencies.
[05:39] <ubuntunub> and it has features windows should have had long ago
[05:39] <murlidhar> ubuntunub: do yo(u) know what my wallpaper says . it says Authorised Personnel Only. :)
[05:40] <carandraug> fire122: how's it going? any problem?
[05:40] <murlidhar> bobertdos1: or aptitude install pulseaudio ?
[05:40] <ubuntunub> does anyone besides me think Ubuntu's default font is a bit "chunky", despite being visually pleasing?
[05:40] <SplashTK> Hi am having trouble dual booting ubuntu and XP. when I select XP in GRUB, I get no error messages, it says starting up, and then my computer restarts, doesn't go any further. Can anyone please please help me with this
[05:40] <ubuntunub> it's like Verdana... taking up too much horizontal space per character
[05:40] <Flannel> ubuntunub: Please take non-support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:40] <bobertdos1> murlidhar: Yeah, that'd probably do it too.
  yeah its installing so far
[05:41] <ubuntunub> whats the pidgin command to open another channel window without leaving this one?
[05:41] <murlidhar> bobertdos1: thanks for the advise
[05:41] <carandraug> fire122: ok, cool. You said you had problems before. When exactly?
[05:41] <Flannel> ubuntunub: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:42] <SplashTK> Hi am having trouble dual booting ubuntu and XP. when I select XP in GRUB, I get no error messages, it says starting up, and then my computer restarts, doesn't go any further. Can anyone please please help me with this
[05:42] <ubuntunub> SplashTK: your computer has AIDS
[05:43] <Flannel> ubuntunub: Please don't
[05:43] <ubuntunub> sorry, i just like making funnies
[05:43] <bobertdos1> SplashTK: Can you boot into Ubuntu in spite of that?
 when i used the automation partitioner, it stopped during the install and said it failed now i got it partioned correctly it should work
[05:43] <SplashTK> bobernet, using it now
[05:43] <bobertdos1> SplashTK: What does your /boot/grub/menu.lst file look like?
[05:44] <SplashTK> bobernet, basically I was getting the error 12: invalid Device request error, so I set my second hard drive flag to boot, and now it "boots" but then restarts straight away
[05:44] <bobertdos1> SplashTK: You might need to reinstall grub.
[05:44] <SplashTK> oh?
[05:45] <TurboBee> how do i get the ip address of the currently logged in ssh session
  it just failed again
[05:45] <SplashTK> bobernet, can i show you my menu.list?
[05:45] <bobertdos1> If you go into a terminal and type: gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst, what does it look like?
[05:46] <SplashTK> Can I paste it here I mean.
[05:46] <SplashTK> default 0
[05:46] <SplashTK> timeout 10
[05:46] <SplashTK> color cyan/black white/blue
[05:46] <SplashTK> title Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-21-generic
[05:46] <SplashTK> root (hd0,0)
[05:46] <FloodBot1> SplashTK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <SplashTK> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-generic root=UUID=4763740c-5344-4a6a-a0dc-e8589ffa6d26 ro quiet splash vga=773
[05:46] <bolrog> what is the wmaster0 network interface?
[05:46] <bobertdos1> SplashTK: Yeah, use pastebin please.
[05:46] <carandraug> fire122: what error did it gave?
[05:47] <SplashTK> http://pastebin.com/m6abe17d4
[05:47] <yugo_> anyone complied kernel for ubuntu in vmware?any useful guide ?
[05:48] <mordof> can anyone help me get my webserver configured? more specifically.. i need mail(); to work and i don't know what to get. tried regular sendmail, didn't work (i dno't know how to configure this stuff is the reason).
[05:48] <Rian-Davide> What version of GRUB does HArdy Heron use?
[05:49] <Flannel> !info grub hardy
[05:49] <fire122> carandraug> it said that it would be beacuse i burned the disk way to fast
[05:49] <Rian-Davide> Why don't they use the new grub 2?
[05:49] <carandraug> fire122: when you start the computer with the CD, select check for defects instead of install. If you find any defects, you'll have to burn another one
[05:50] <SplashTK> bobernet, see anything I might need to change? do you want my fdisk -l ?
[05:50] <bobertdos1> SplashTK: 1,4 eh? That would mean Windows is installed to a second hard drive, fifth partition. Does that sound accurate?
 okay hold on ill brb let me go ahead and do that
[05:50] <tyl3r> mordof, mail on webservers is always quite complex, just google on it....you will find thousands of useful guides starting from the scratch
[05:50] <SplashTK> It is on the second HDD
[05:50] <SplashTK> not 100% of the partition
[05:50] <tyl3r> especially with postfix ;)
[05:51] <mordof> tyl3r: i've already tried a good number of them, including postfix
[05:51] <mordof> haven't been able to get it to work
[05:51] <tyl3r> vserver ? root ? control panel ?
[05:51] <ekow> Hello, i have ubuntu currently installed on my laptop and i've used the gparted live cd to partition an NTFS section of my hard drive so i can dual boot with xp, however when i put in the xp disc the setup says "Unknown Disk: There is no disk in this drive"
[05:51] <Kai_wp> How can I enable "Stereo Mix" on Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04?
[05:51] <php6th> :-*
[05:51] <mordof> alot of them require a bit of extra knowledge though.. they say to configure it, which i don't know how to. this is the first time i've ever tried to get a mail server setup
[05:51] <SplashTK> bobernet, http://pastebin.com/m5a73a493 more info
[05:52] <ubuntunub> ekow: try reformatting the new partition in NTFS?
[05:52] <ubuntunub> ekow: other than that i have no clue
[05:53] <ubuntunub> ekow: or maybe a MFT issue
[05:53] <ekow> ubuntunub: Hmm alright thanks
[05:53] <ubuntunub> ekow: i'm a total nub, take my advice with a grain of salt
[05:53] <noxious> I need some program like "PhotoShop" but for linux ubuntu 7.10 can somebody help me and tell me what program to install it ?
[05:53] <ekow> ubuntunub: Hehe well i appreciate your help anyways
[05:53] <blitz> ekow: is it the hard drive not recognized? sounds like may be the windows disk
[05:54] <demosthenese> noxious, the closest program is called "The Gimp."
[05:54] <tyl3r> well, you should be careful with it and test for open relay after sucessful install....so whats your current situation ?
[05:54] <blitz> nocious: use the gimp
[05:54] <sef__> noxious> GIMP comes with Ubuntu. it is under applications > graphics
[05:54] <ekow> blitz: i've tried with multiple disks..
[05:54] <Guest28971> k
[05:54] <Guest28971> thx
[05:54] <mordof> tyl3r: was that to me?
[05:54] <bobertdos1> SplashTK: Well first of all, it sometimes helps with windows to have "makeactive" (no quotes) after savedefault under the windows entry So you might want to edit your file to include that. I also am not convinced the Windows entry is pointing to the right partition.
[05:55] <ilrb2> can anyone help me connect to a wireless network? i have xubuntu and the default card on my Compaq Presario V2000
[05:55] <tyl3r> yes
[05:55] <blitz> ekow: are you getting into the install program?
[05:55] <bobertdos1> SplashTK: You may want to read about reinstalling grub.
[05:55] <ilrb2> Linksys router, WRT54G
[05:55] <bobertdos1> !grub > SplashTK
[05:55] <SplashTK> I have enabled the boot flag on the partition
[05:55] <Initial_M> best DVD Ripper for Ubuntu?
[05:55] <mordof> tyl3r: my current situation is i've uninstalled everything that i had previously installed/fiddled with.. and i don't know how to test for open relay
[05:55] <ubuntunub> !grub > ubuntunub
[05:56] <ubuntunub> !ubuntunub > ubuntunub
[05:56] <tyl3r> you are talking about a mailserver on your local ubuntu system ?
[05:56] <Kai_wp> Whoops, no one answered my question, right?
[05:56] <ekow> blitz: i get passed the license agreement, then it's the screen that is supposed to show all of your hard drive's partitions that gives me the error message
[05:56] <tyl3r> or on an external webserver...
[05:56] <bobertdos1> SplashTK: Well, I'd first edit menu.lst to include makeactive. Otherwise, I'd follow the wiki entries.
[05:56] <mordof> tyl3r: my webserver that's in the furnace room. so php can use mail();
[05:56] <SplashTK> bobernet, thanks will try
[05:56] <carandraug> not all my HD's appear when I run "ls -lF /dev/disk/by-uuid/". They all appear when I run "ls -lF /dev/disk/by-id/". Anyone knows why? And how do I find the UUID of them?
[05:56] <mordof> tyl3r: to send mail to people with php
[05:57] <blitz> ekow: can you mount the partition and work with it in ubuntu?
[05:57] <tyl3r> furnace ? sorry im german ;)....
[05:57] <mordof> tyl3r: room with the heater in it in the basement
[05:58] <mordof> tyl3r: no monitor/keyboard/mouse, etc. ubuntu server install set up specifically for apache/php/mysql.  just want to get mail(); for php working
[05:58] <ekow> blitz: yeah i think so, however the option to unmount it is in gray, so maybe i have to use the gparted live disc instead
[05:58] <tyl3r> so actually you just need an smtp server listening on that machine accepting mails ?
[05:58] <bobertdos1> ilrb2: So, what IS the default wireless card on your compaq?
[05:59] <ekow> blitz: uh oh wait... just found somethin
[05:59] <ekow> blitz: there's a ! sign by it
[05:59] <ilrb2> bobertdos1: i'm afraid i don't know, it's built in. how can i check?
[05:59] <mordof> tyl3r: smtp server.. yeah i think that's all i need. one that i tell it to send an email to someone, and it does, lol.  no storing of emails or anything
[05:59] <blitz> ekow: whats the error?
[06:00] <ekow> blitz: and it says "Unable to read the contents of this filesystem! Because of this some operations may be unavailable."
[06:00] <xXGusDaBus75Xx> hello
[06:00] <bobertdos1> ilrb2: In a terminal, type lspci and look for it.
[06:00] <blitz> ekow: perhaps from a livecd environment use gparted to delete and reformat the partition
[06:00] <ekow> blitz: ok i'll try that
[06:00] <ekow> blitz: thanks
[06:00] <blitz> ekow: make sure its primary
[06:01] <ekow> blitz: primary? how do i do that?
[06:01] <blitz> ekow: you got the choice of primary or logical when you makle it
[06:01] <ryaxnb> ]ow do you start kde-4 in a blank x session in ubuntu
[06:01] <ryaxnb> i'd really like to know
[06:01] <ekow> blitz: oh okay
[06:01] <tyl3r> so I guess this one is sending mails to internet then...as you have nothing installed right now, did you try this tutorial ? http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts-p5
[06:02] <ilrb2> bobertdos1: it's a Broadcom Corp. BCM4318
[06:02] <Kai_wp> Does anyone know how I can enable a "Stereo Mix" input on Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron?
[06:02] <ilrb2> 802.11g
[06:02] <murlidhar> does anybody know ? how to restart pulse audio . ? without restarting the kernel ?
[06:02] <xXGusDaBus75Xx> no srry
[06:02] <murlidhar> anyone else
[06:02] <ryaxnb> ]ow do you start kde-4 in a blank x session in ubuntu
 its showing i have a error in one file, but not showing which one.. so what do u think i should do.. do u think i should reburn the image in a slower speed?
[06:03] <ryaxnb> what's the command
[06:03] <tyl3r> should work for your situation...just the page 5 for postfix...
[06:03] <blitz> maulidhar: try /etc/init.d/pulseaudio reload
[06:03] <mordof> tyl3r: i'll give it a try, thanks
[06:03] <bobertdos1> ilrb2 Okay, well normally I tell people to install ndisgtk and get the latest Windows XP driver to use, but first, see if the wiki says anything helpful.
[06:03] <AppleZ> I got a problem. Whenever I type for a really long time, it ends up transferring me to about middle of this sentence, and I have to backspace what I just typed over, and click where I was typing to continue.
[06:03] <AppleZ> There a solution to this?
[06:03] <bobertdos1> !broadcom > ilrb2
[06:04] <ckyle> x
[06:04] <bullgard4> What is the function of the nvram module? 'modinfo nvram' does not answer this question.
[06:05] <ryaxnb> I'm having trouble with starting kde4 in xnest
[06:05] <ilrb2> thanks ubottu
[06:05] <ilrb2> i'll try it now
[06:05] <ryaxnb> i tried kwin-kde4 but it didn't work
[06:05] <ryaxnb> I loaded the kde4 binaries
[06:05] <ryaxnb> it's kde 4.1
[06:05] <ckyle> How do I make it so that clicking on a file-label on my desktop (or in nautilus) allows me to edit the file name... don't like having to right-click/rename...
[06:05] <ckyle> thx
[06:05] <tyl3r> and do some relay testing here after setting up...http://spamlinks.net/prevent-secure-relay-test.htm
[06:06] <ubuntunub> is there an equivalent to "Task Manager" in Ubuntu?
[06:06] <tyl3r> htop
[06:07] <ryaxnb> if you like the cli ubuntunub, try htop
[06:07] <havocstorm> hey guys
[06:07] <havocstorm> you know the orange bar and the ubuntu logo
[06:07] <havocstorm> that comes up
[06:07] <havocstorm> when you turn your computer on?
[06:07] <havocstorm> mine disappeared
[06:07] <FloodBot1> havocstorm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <havocstorm> now all I get is a bunch of words
[06:07] <havocstorm> how do I fix that?>
[06:07] <ckyle> System/Administration/System Monitor is like Task Manager?
[06:07] <ckyle> from main menu
[06:08] <wacninja> hey
[06:08] <bobertdos1> ckyle: F2 generally works for renaming too.
[06:08] <wacninja> anyone know a good dvd burning software like nero rom that will encode dvds to?
[06:08] <ubuntunub> ckyle: i don't know how to go through the filesystem like that
[06:08] <tyl3r> well, from my opinion not really...I dont like it....better use htop
[06:08] <ubuntunub> ckyle: is it in the menubar at top?
[06:08] <carandraug> fire122: I had to reboot. You said anything in the mean time? Did the test for defects finished?
[06:08] <Bhavesh> dang i did not know gallery2 needs mysql
[06:08] <ckyle> thx for the F2 - works great
[06:09] <sef__> Ubuntunub > do you want to force quit an application?
[06:09] <wacninja> anyone know a good dvd burning software like nero rom that will encode dvds to?
[06:09] <havocstorm> hello?
[06:09] <havocstorm> anyone here?
[06:09] <ubuntunub> sef__: no just curious
[06:09] <Bhavesh> i am kinda here
[06:09] <ubuntunub> havocstorm: wait for an answer
[06:09] <ckyle> ubuntunub: yes - the menu bar at top - use "System/Administration/System Monitor"
[06:09] <ubuntunub> havocstorm: if u dont get one its 90% because no one knows the answer
[06:09] <RB2> In the CompizConfig Settings Manager, what's the difference between the checkbox in the main list (next to the effect) and the "enable this plugin" under the properties for a certain item?
[06:09] <nnull> why does ubuntu come setup with a ftp server, is it for apt-get n stuff or?
[06:09] <wacninja> anyone know a good dvd burning software like nero rom that will encode dvds to?
[06:09] <Kai_wp> Does anyone know how I can enable a "Stereo Mix" input on Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron? :)
[06:10] <nnull> but u shouldnt need a server for this..
[06:10] <Kai_wp> So that everything over my speakers would be used as audio input.
[06:10] <Chro4> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[06:10] <ryaxnb> no one has told me
[06:10] <RB2> nnull, to my knowledge, it doesn't by default.
[06:10] <tyl3r> dvds to what wacninja ?
[06:10] <blitz> wacninja: I sent you a msg
[06:10] <wacninja> divx to dvds
[06:10] <ryaxnb> \that command i'm looking for
[06:10] <tyl3r> sudo apt-get install tovidgui
[06:11] <nnull> hmm i seem to have a server setup on 0.0.0.0 but i didnt make it, and the user for accessing it is "nobody"
[06:11] <wacninja> sorry blitz did not see
[06:11] <Chro4> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[06:11] <RB2> nnull, did you perhaps install another package that had it as a dependency?
[06:11] <tyl3r> used that before to convert divx to dvd and burn...works fine
[06:11] <KoolD> is it possiable to change the keyboard shortcuts so that when i ctrk+alt+del the system moniter pops out???
[06:11] <ckyle> Quick poll - what IRC client are you using?
[06:12] <ckyle> LostIRC here.
[06:12] <ryaxnb> wondering about kde4.1 launch command
[06:12] <Chro4> pidgon here
[06:12] <RB2> XChat here
[06:12] <ryaxnb> im using xvhat-bgnome
[06:12] <nnull> RB2, possibly i cant think what tho
[06:12] <Bhavesh> mirc on windows / irssii on linux
[06:12] <ryaxnb> xchat-gnome
[06:13] <Chro4> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[06:13] <qhex16> I'm trying to get resume from S3 working on kubuntu 8.04.1.  when I resume it never powers on the screen, no capslock function. I've tried debugging with pm_trace, but it doesn't even set the clock
[06:13] <bombshelter13> ckyle: on linux, Xchat (not Xchat-gnome).
[06:13] <SebastianMcK> apt-get me a sandwich
[06:13] <pajamian> Chro4: is this when booting to the live CD or after installing?
[06:14] <ubuntunub> how can i find out, without question, how large my Ubuntu partition/install size is?
[06:14] <Chro4> i never get installed
[06:14] <pajamian> Chro4: have you tried the alternate install CD?
[06:14] <ubuntunub> i'm looking in System Monitor > File Systems > /dev/sda5 (~20GB)
[06:14] <Bhavesh> ubuntunub df -h
[06:15] <tyl3r> type df -m in console
[06:15] <Chro4> i use a floppy to boot and change the options to no acpi and thats as afar as i get
[06:15] <ubuntunub> Bhavesh: in terminal?
[06:15] <SeaPhor> ubuntunub, df -h
[06:15] <Chro4> no i have not tried alt
[06:15] <Bhavesh> ubuntunub sorry y yes
[06:15] <ubuntunub> Terminal = console?
[06:15] <tyl3r> oh -h, you are right of course ;)
[06:15] <pajamian> Chro4: ok, try that with the alternate install CD, though.
[06:15] <Kai_wp> Why are all the groups greyed out under "Manage Groups" under users and groups?
[06:15] <Chro4> ok
[06:15] <Bhavesh> ubuntunub normally console - keyboard, no gui, terminal = window in xwindow
[06:15] <Chro4> whats the difference between the 2
[06:16] <SeaPhor> ubuntunub, yes in terminal/ console
[06:16] <pajamian> !alternate | Chro4
 imma try reburning
[06:16] <ubuntunub> strictly speaking, where is the console most directly accessed (not via the Terminal app)
[06:16] <ubuntunub> ?
[06:17] <Chro4> alright and it is available as server
[06:17] <Flannel> ubuntunub: ctrl-alt-f1 through ctrl-alt-f6 (ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to the GUI)
[06:17] <carandraug> fire122: but did you try to check for defects on the one you had before?
[06:17] <Kai_wp> Why would all the groups in the window that appears when you click "Manage Groups" under the user and groups window be greyed out?
[06:17] <pajamian> ubuntunub: you mean a full console session?  ctrl-alt-F1
[06:17] <ubuntunub> dos ctrl-alt-f1 terminate my current desktop enviro?
[06:17] <ubuntunub> does*
[06:17] <Bhavesh> does it make sense to keep old servers ssh_host_rsa_key to new server?
 yeah i had one file defected but it didnt show which one
[06:17] <ubuntunub> because i'm afraid to try it lol
[06:17] <SeaPhor> ubuntunub, Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[06:18] <carandraug> ubuntunub: no. BUt use Ctrl+Alt+F7 to come back to GUI
[06:18] <pajamian> Kai_wp: you need to unlock first.
[06:18] <Kai_wp> Do I have to be root?
[06:18] <Bhavesh> ubuntunub no it does not.. it simply switches you to a command line console
[06:18] <blitz> ubuntunub: no you use ctrl-alt-f7 to get back
[06:18] <Kai_wp> pajamian: Unlock?
[06:18] <carandraug> fire122: ok
[06:18] <Kai_wp> Oh
[06:18] <pajamian> Kai_wp: before clicking Manage Groups click on the unlock button and type in your password
[06:18] <ubuntunub> WOW, that was awesome... i felt like my desktop was GONE but it came back
[06:18] <ubuntunub> i <3 linux
[06:18] <blitz> lol
[06:18] <fire122> carandraug> i dont c how i can run the live cd and it work okay, but not being able to install it to the hard drive
[06:18] <Bhavesh> ubuntunub welcome to linux
[06:18] <Cpudan80> Is there a way to password protect the ubuntu recovery prompt?
[06:19] <carandraug> ubuntunub: also, if you don't like the resolution of in the tty, you'll have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:19] <dmoerner> Cpudan80, set a root password
[06:19] <Cpudan80> dmoerner: but there is no root
[06:19] <Flannel> Cpudan80: Yeah, do it through the GRUB menu
[06:19] <ubuntunub> carandraug: that is a filepath, right?
[06:19] <Flannel> don't set a root password.
[06:19] <pajamian> ubuntunub: it doesn't terminate, it simply switches to the text mode console, but the GUI one is still running.
[06:19] <ckyle> thumbs up to ubntunub
[06:19] <Cpudan80> Flannel: a password to access the grub menu you mean?
[06:19] <ilrb2> ubottu: sorry, no luck with that link
[06:20] <Flannel> Cpudan80: you can either have a password to protect specific entries, or a password to select any non-default entry
[06:20] <SeaPhor> dmoerner, do not suggest that here, plz
[06:20] <pajamian> !root
[06:20] <Kai_wp> If I have Pulse Audio installed when can't I access it tfrom the "Applications->Sound And Video" menu? o.o
[06:20] <Cpudan80> Flannel: hrm sounds good -- how would you password protect just the recovery entry?
[06:20] <Cpudan80> or whatever it is
[06:20] <carandraug> ubuntunub: yes. You'll have to add vga=xxx in the kernel line of the first entry. xx is a serie of numbers which I don't know by memory
[06:20] <ryaxnb> using kde 4.1 in XZnest.. how do i do it
[06:20] <ubuntunub> how can i access /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[06:21] <ubuntunub> i can't find the boot Folder
[06:21] <ubuntunub> if that's even what it is
[06:21] <Flannel> ubuntunub: its in /boot/grub/
[06:21] <ubuntunub> Flannel: i can't find /boot/grub/
[06:22] <carandraug> fire122: maybe some file that's not important most of the times. The install maybe checks everyone of them to make sure and found it's defected, even if maybe you'll never need it
[06:22] <pajamian> ubuntunub: did you boot to the live CD?
[06:22] <ubuntunub> pajamian: no this is a full install
[06:22] <Flannel> ubuntunub: cd /boot/grub
[06:22] <dmoerner> SeaPhor, why? that is the solution to his problem.
[06:22] <pajamian> ubuntunub: then there has to be a /boot/grub, unless you somehow managed to specify lilo in the advanced install options.
[06:22] <ubuntunub> Flannel: how about through the GUI?
[06:22] <carandraug> ubuntunub: in your home folder, you'll hvae to go back to / . Your ome folder is in /home/yourusername
[06:22] <ubuntunub> pajamian: i'm not using the console to find it at present
[06:23] <Flannel> ubuntunub: nautilus, then filesystem then boot thten grub
[06:23] <Kai_wp> How does one access Pulse Audio?
[06:23] <nnull> anyone know why id have 25+ running copies of console-kit-daemon running?
[06:23] <ryaxnb> i've posted a few times now.. does anyone know  how to start KDE4.1 in Xnest
[06:23] <arvind_k> ubuntulog, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:23] <pajamian> ubuntunub: just open a terminal
[06:23] <Kai_wp> The Ubuntu wiki says "Now, go into Applications -> Sound and Video -> click on PulseAudio Preferences." but there's no PulseAudio Preferences under there.
[06:23] <arvind_k> ubuntunub, , gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:23] <bullgard4> What is the function of the nvram module? 'modinfo nvram' does not answer this question.
[06:23] <SeaPhor> Flannel, dmo
[06:23] <ubuntunub> got it thnx
[06:23] <Flannel> Cpudan80: If you open up your menu.lst, you'll see a part at the top about passwords, that sets a password for any "locked" entries.  Then a few lines under that is a "lock alternatives" option, set that to true.  None of these lines get uncommented.
 okay, but will that still affect the way that it installs?
[06:23] <arvind_k> pajamian, ubuntunub dont ever edit menu.lst from a terminal it may screw ICE.authority files
[06:24] <ubuntunub> i was setting my starting point at Home for some noob reason
[06:24] <SeaPhor> Flannel, dmoerner is suggesting setting root password, is that right?
[06:24] <Flannel> SeaPhor: No need to set a root password, no.
[06:24] <pajamian> arvind_k: explain, pls
[06:24] <dmoerner> SeaPhor, as i understood his question, he asked "how to i password protect init 1". maybe i misunderstood
[06:24] <Flannel> dmoerner: Please don't suggest using a root password in this channel.
[06:24] <SeaPhor> Flannel, thought not
[06:24] <dmoerner> Flannel, ok.
[06:25] <carandraug> fire122: maybe the defected file is not needed for the installation but for the final system. I really don't know. You should at least check the CD for defects and if possible check the md5sum of the iso. The defect can be there.
[06:25] <ubuntunub> so editing .lst files is done through gedit?
[06:25] <arvind_k> pajamian, dont edit the menu.lst from the terminal ...use Alt+f2 and do the gksu thingy... if you do it through the terminal it would screw your .ICE authority files...leaving you unable to login...
[06:25] <Flannel> ubuntunub: its a text file, yes.
[06:25] <Theaxiom> How do I make sshd start automagically when the computer boots?
[06:25] <nnull> anyone know why id have 25+ copies of console-kit-daemon running?
[06:25] <ghostcracker> can u help me with something?
[06:25] <bobertdos1> ubuntunub: Any editor really, as long as you have super user privileges.
[06:26] <Flannel> Theaxiom: Did you install openssh-server?
[06:26] <arvind_k> !ask | ghostcracker
[06:26] <pajamian> arvind_k: do you have a link that explains this?
[06:26] <carandraug> ubuntunub: yes. But you'll need root privileges "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[06:26] <Theaxiom> Flannel: nope, thanks
[06:26] <ghostcracker> i want a dock for my ubuntu
[06:26] <Flannel> Theaxiom: Once you install that ssh server, it'll start by default.
[06:26] <ghostcracker> one that looks like mac
[06:26] <Theaxiom> Flannel: Thanks
[06:26] <bombshelter13> ghost: avant-window-navigator is most of the way there
[06:26] <bobertdos1> ghostcracker: cairo is the other possibility
[06:27] <ghostcracker> yeah
[06:27] <ghostcracker> cairo
[06:27] <veyne> cairo dock is prety close
[06:27] <Cpudan80> Flannel: Ok thanks
[06:27] <ghostcracker> ill check it
[06:27] <bombshelter13> I haven't tried that one, maybe I will
[06:27] <Cpudan80> Flannel: I'll have to look into it some more, the example of how to lock it doesnt really make sense
[06:27] <Flannel> Cpudan80: just lockalternatives = true
[06:28] <Cpudan80> Flannel: right, but then how do you set the password
[06:28] <thebitguru> when using lvmreduce, do I need to 'shrink' the ext3 partition first?
[06:28] <Flannel> Cpudan80: and then set a password
[06:28] <Cpudan80> Flannel: yes but how
[06:28] <arvind_k> pajamian, it was said to me in some forum...
[06:28] <ubuntunub> what does "gksudo" do?
[06:28] <ghostcracker> because i installed simdock from synaptic and after reboot it restart all its options so i uninstalled
[06:28] <Cpudan80> #      password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
[06:28] <Cpudan80> Is what it says
[06:28] <Cpudan80> but what does that even mena
[06:28] <Flannel> Cpudan80: A few lines up.  Either "# password mypassword" or #password --md5 wQERVVDFAQWEVZAF where that linenoise is the md5 hash of your password
[06:29] <ghostcracker> after i configure the launchers
[06:29] <blitz> ubuntunub: pops up a window asking for your password, allowing you to run a program as the root user
[06:29] <Cpudan80> Flannel: oh ok ok
[06:29] <Cpudan80> got it
[06:29] <Cpudan80> Flannel: but leave all of it commented?
[06:29] <pajamian> arvind_k: it's just that this is the first time I have ever heard that there is any difference between running a command in the terminal vs running it in the alt-f2 run dialogue.  I'm very curious to find out more as to why that is.
[06:29] <ubuntunub> blitz: but i thought that was "sudo"
[06:29] <Flannel> Cpudan80: all of it stays commented, yes.
[06:30] <blitz> ubuntunub: sudo doesnt pop up a window, its for terminal and console
[06:30] <Cpudan80> Flannel: how do I get the md5 of the password?
[06:30] <Cpudan80> Flannel: is there some md5 command?
[06:30] <Flannel> Cpudan80: those commands are read by update-grub to generate the uncommented stuff (at the bottom) that is read by grub
[06:30] <bobertdos1> ubuntunub: gksudo is the version preferred for graphical applications -- it sets up a cleaner environment that way
[06:30] <ubuntunub> carandraug: i can't find which line to edit to change the resolution of the console
[06:30] <ghostcracker> did u heard the news about wido i don't remenber
[06:30] <Syco54645_AAO> hello, my kernel compile errors with "rm: cannot remove `include/asm': Is a directory" when running make-kpkg clean.  what is wrong and how can i get it to compile?
[06:31] <Rat409> pajamian: probly cause you won't see error msgs using run dialog
[06:31] <ubuntunub> bobertdos1: ok so whenever dealing with a GUI, use "gksudo"?
[06:31] <ghostcracker> that they are going to make a new operating system
[06:31] <simplegirl4> what do you guys talk about here?
[06:31] <ghostcracker> call midori
[06:31] <blitz> ubuntunub: for instance you want to run a firewall or some application you may not have permissions to, you can't use "sudo" in the command text for the shortcut, but you can use gksudo
[06:31] <john_help_radeon> Hey, I could really use some HUGE help on a fresh install of Hardy tring to install a Radeon gfx card
[06:31] <john_help_radeon> I've tried maybe... 6 or 7 fresh installs, every tut I can find
[06:31] <Flannel> Cpudan80: grub-md5-crypt
[06:31] <ckyle> how to get rid of "join" / "leave" messages in IRC? and just see the conversation? thx
[06:31] <bobertdos1> ubuntunub: Well, when you need root priviliges, yes.
[06:31] <john_help_radeon> Anyone have a chance to help me out?
[06:32] <carandraug> ubuntunub: search near the end of the file, something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/42081/
[06:32] <Cpudan80> Flannel: right ok, so once that is all done I need to run update-grub?
[06:32] <ghostcracker> windows is a disaster man
[06:32] <Flannel> Cpudan80: yeah, that'll regenerate the menu.lst
[06:32] <ghostcracker> i hate it
[06:32] <john_help_radeon> Can you guys at least hear me?
[06:32] <ckyle> john_help_radeon - I just did an ubuntu install and installed a 4870 x2 driver...
[06:32] <john_help_radeon> Ckyle
[06:32] <maxtothemax> radeon dude: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:32] <Bhavesh> !temperature
[06:32] <john_help_radeon> Can you maybe
[06:32] <Cpudan80> Flannel: ok perfect
[06:32] <john_help_radeon> MSg me?
[06:32] <Bhavesh> damn
[06:32] <blitz> john_help_radeon: I sent you a msg
[06:32] <Bhavesh> sorry
[06:32] <Cpudan80> Flannel: thanks for the info
[06:33] <Flannel> Cpudan80: Hmmm, make sure your menu.lst has some sort of password command in it (uncommented) after you do that.
[06:33] <qhex16> how do i get resume from S3 working? on kubuntu 8.04.1..  when I resume i get a black screen; capslock doesn't work. pm_trace doesn't even get a chance to set the rt clock
[06:33] <bolrog> anybody familiar with server cases?
[06:33] <carandraug> ubuntunub: then, at the of the line you'll have to add vga=XXX These numbers, depend on the resolution you want and the color depth
[06:33] <nnull> anyone know why id have 25+ copies of console-kit-daemon running?
[06:33] <Cpudan80> Flannel: you mean in the bottom part?
[06:33] <john_help_radeon> Whoever recoomended that link, I've tried that twice
[06:33] <Bhavesh> that's a lot of 'em
[06:33] <Flannel> bolrog: Hardware questions belong in #ubuntu-offtopic (or some sort of hardware channel)
[06:33] <ghostcracker> can somebody talk with me cause im bored and i want to talk about systems
[06:33] <ghostcracker> can someone please
[06:33] <Flannel> Cpudan80: Just anywhere that its uncommented
[06:33] <ghostcracker> ??
[06:33] <SeaPhor> !help | john_help_radeon
[06:33] <Cpudan80> Flannel: ok - sounds reasonable
[06:33] <Flannel> ghostcracker: #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter, please take it there
[06:33] <Cpudan80> Flannel: thanks
[06:34] <ubuntunub> i'm so confused
[06:34] <ekow> blitz: hey i'm back, i deleted and reparted it but it still has the ! error... i'm gonna look into that error actually, see if anyone is getting it
[06:34] <Bhavesh> which package gives you temperature info?
 okay how do i do that?
[06:34] <ubuntunub> i was expecting values to already be there, needing simple edits
[06:34] <blitz> ekow: ok bud sorry it didnt work for y
[06:34] <bobertdos1> !info lm-sensors > Bhavesh
[06:34] <Bhavesh> thank you
[06:34] <carandraug> fire122: what? check the md5sum? are you in a linux box?
[06:34] <Flannel> ubuntunub: Expecting what to be where?
[06:34] <ckyle> john_help_radeon - which radeon card do you have?
[06:34] <bolrog> Flannel: oh, thanks
[06:34] <ubuntunub> like say
[06:35] <ubuntunub> xres = xxxx
[06:35] <ckyle> john_help_radeon - is your unbuntu install 32-bit or 64-bit?
[06:35] <ubuntunub> yres = xxxx
[06:35] <bobertdos1> Bhavesh: It's a bit of a pain in the butt to configure, but it's pretty thorough.
[06:35] <ubuntunub> kinda like an easy regedit in Windows
[06:35] <Flannel> !enter | ubuntunub
[06:35] <ekow> blitz: np i'll get it, thanks for the help
[06:35] <carandraug> Flannel: he wants the vga values to change his tty resolution.
[06:35] <brutus> !info lm-sensors > brutus
[06:35] <ghostcracker> but u can use envy if u don't have its drivers
[06:35] <Bhavesh> bobertdos1 i just did 'apt-get install lm-sensors' and once it installed did sensors and i got all temperatures :)
[06:35] <ghostcracker> its easy
[06:35] <Flannel> ubuntunub: Ah, you want to change your tty resolution?  Ok, do this:  In your first menu.lst entry, add "vga=ask" to the end of it, reboot and select that.
[06:35] <john_help_radeon> Kyle, I have a Radeon x1650 Pro AGP (612MB)
[06:35] <john_help_radeon> 512**
[06:35] <ghostcracker> to acomodate the resolution
[06:36] <qhex16> anyone know how to troubleshoot s3 suspend?
[06:36] <ghostcracker> just get in x
[06:36] <ghostcracker> config
[06:36] <ghostcracker> and change it
[06:36] <Flannel> ubuntunub: It'll give you a list of a bunch of stuff, try one, see how it works, try another, etc.  When you're done, remember the value that works the best for you.
[06:36] <Flannel> ubuntunub: then you can permanently add that to your menu.lst
[06:36] <Bhavesh> bobertdos1 probably because i am running on old  computer
[06:36] <bobertdos1> Bhavesh: Well gee, I guess I was following outdated instructions then Lp
[06:36] <ubuntunub> Flannel: why not just add 1440x900 and get it over with? how can another res possibly be better?
[06:37] <bobertdos1> Bhavesh: Oh, well either way........hehe
[06:37] <carandraug> Flannel: cool! Didn't knew you could vga=ask. Always had to find out mine.
[06:37] <ubuntunub> Fannel: since i'm using an LCD, and seeing more on screen would be better anyhow
[06:37] <Flannel> ubuntunub: because it doesn't quite work that way.
[06:37] <DaBomb> is there a specific Wubi channel or can i inquire about it here?
[06:37] <carandraug> ubuntunub: it doesn't work like that
[06:37] <Bhavesh> bobertdos1 it works ;) i know what yo mean though i remember it used to be a bit pain to setup but i think new version has come long way
[06:37] <Flannel> DaBomb: Here is fine.
[06:37] <Bhavesh> unfortunately it only detects one cpu
[06:37] <ubuntunub> i rly don't want to reboot right now :(
[06:37] <Flannel> ubuntunub: that's fine, it'll wait.
[06:38] <Rat409> !wubi | DaBomb
[06:38] <ckyle> john_help_radeon: first, you can download the linux driver for your card from here http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[06:38] <john_help_radeon> I've done that, and I ran through the Tut's for installing it as a Binary
[06:38] <john_help_radeon> no issue there, etc.
[06:38] <john_help_radeon> But
[06:38] <bender1337> hi I installed ubuntu about a week ago and it freezes up allot on me anybody have any suggestions ?
[06:38] <john_help_radeon> I get a black screen
[06:38] <ubuntunub> i'm on an intel 965 mobile chipset (intel gma x3100)... am i supposed to download drivers for it in the linux environment?
[06:39] <DaBomb> im trying to figure out what the default user name that wubi sets up in the inital windows installer
[06:39] <bobertdos1> ubuntunub: Yeah, Ubuntu doesn't tyrannically tell you what to do when like Windows does.
[06:39] <Flannel> ubuntunub: you already have your drivers
[06:39] <mimor> How do I check what user is running apache?
[06:39] <ubuntunub> i'm currently running 1440x900 @ 60Hz so everything seems fine
[06:39] <mordof> great... someone sent me to a guide, to hopefully get an smtp server setup to run mail() through php, and they're gone, but it doesn't work x.x; http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts-p5   at the part where it says to telnet localhost 25, then ehlo localhost... i see nothing
[06:39] <ubuntunub> Flannel: they're already included with ubuntu, autodetect, etc?
[06:39] <Flannel> ubuntunub: but, if you had to download them, it'd be done through package management
[06:39] <Bhavesh> bender1337 try to describe at what point it freezes up what program/ what activities it may help answer your question
[06:39] <ckyle> john - okay, that's where I had trouble at first, too - there are a couple of small command-line steps to do - nothing too difficult...
[06:39] <ubuntunub> Flannel: who "makes" drivers for hardware in linux?
[06:39] <Flannel> ubuntunub: Intel has open source drivers, so yes, your official intel drivers are included by default
[06:39] <john_help_radeon> Great kyle
[06:40] <john_help_radeon> Hey is there a chance I can get you in a private convo?
[06:40] <bombshelter13> ubuntunub: a mixture of programmers who work for companies and programmers who don't work for companies.
[06:40] <bender1337> Bhavesh, i guess when I use firefox
[06:40] <ubuntunub> bombshelter13: but in general, it's all made by random nerds?
[06:40] <Flannel> mordof: to be honest, the howtoforge line of howtos is horrible when it comes to Ubuntu
[06:40] <ckyle> john - sure
[06:41] <ubuntunub> bombshelter13: say u have hardware X with no driver support for linux from the company... what happens then?
[06:41] <Flannel> ubuntunub: arbitrary people create it, yes.
[06:41] <JulioNeto> hi all
[06:41] <mordof> Flannel: not quite sure what that means, lol
[06:41] <Flannel> ubuntunub: but, those sorts of questions are best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for support only
[06:41] <bombshelter13> ubuntunub: no driver exists unless someone who knows how to make drivers takes an interest in that piece of hardware
[06:41] <Flannel> mordof: Don't use howtoforge howtos.  They give bad advise.
[06:41] <Flannel> advice, even.
[06:42] <ubuntunub> um, my cursor just turned thick and won't go back to slim, how can i make it go back?
[06:42] <JulioNeto> I did a little vídeo with GTK-Record-My-desktop and the output format it OGG. and it is very big. more or less 16 MB for 4 minutes. How can I resize this move?
[06:42] <ubuntunub> text cursor, not mouse cursor
[06:42] <JulioNeto> I tried this line:  ffmpeg -i out.ogg -s 320x240 test.mpg
[06:42] <ubuntunub> i tried rightclicking, drag selecting, etc
[06:42] <JulioNeto> but it don't work
[06:42] <ph0rensic> Flannel: Howtoforge give bad advice??
[06:42] <mimor> How do I check what user is running apache?
[06:42] <JulioNeto> *doesn't
[06:42] <Flannel> mordof: for email stuff in particular: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html  may be a good choice, depending on your question.
[06:43] <Flannel> ph0rensic: yes.
[06:43] <Flannel> mimor: its www-data
[06:43] <Flannel> mimor: but, that's in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[06:43] <mordof> Flannel: oooh the site, k
[06:43] <blitz> mimor: open system monitor and look under the user column
[06:43] <mimor> Flannel, blitz , ok thx!
[06:43] <JulioNeto> oh god!
[06:43] <carandraug> ubuntunub: click in Insert key
[06:43] <JulioNeto> Tks folks...
[06:43] <ph0rensic> Flannel: Where is a better source for howto's .. only the ubuntu forums and wiki?
[06:43] <ubuntunub> carandraug: thnx
[06:43] <JulioNeto> All I needed is convert to AVI
[06:43] <DaBomb> im trying to figure out what the default user name that wubi sets up in the inital windows installer
[06:43] <JulioNeto> XD
[06:43] <ubuntunub> (duh)
[06:43] <mimor> blitz, hard to do on a tls (terminal)
[06:44] <SebastianMcK> Hey guys, is there a pack to transform ubuntu to look like windows xp or vista?
[06:44] <Flannel> ph0rensic: Those are great choices, yes.  And actually, there's little that isn't in the wiki.
[06:45] <ph0rensic> Flannel: I think howtoforge isn't only for ubuntu they cover other distro's as well so they writers have experience in a wide base of distros rather than acute knowledge of just one
[06:45] <maxtothemax> sebastianMck: there are a number of Windows lookalikes for linux
[06:45] <maxtothemax> but they all look like crap
[06:46] <rohan> hi. is the suhosin patch an official part of php? i installed php in ubuntu, and it came with the suhosin patch installed.
[06:46] <DIFH-iceroot> is there a program that tell me, which program is generating traffic? apache,ftp,svn and so on, so something that is logging the traffic?
[06:46] <maxtothemax> PuppyLinux has a windows-like interface that works pretty well
[06:46] <Flannel> ph0rensic: correct, but that doesn't mean giving bad advice is acceptable.  They just shouldn't try instead of breaking people's systems.
[06:46] <bobertdos1> ph0rensic: Generally what I've found is that howtoforge doesn't really keep up with distro changes very well. That's the main problem. That, and some of the tutorials aren't very well written.
[06:47] <bullgard4> What is the function of the nvram module? 'modinfo nvram' does not answer this question.
[06:47] <mordof> Flannel: all i want is to be able to use mail(); in php... i don't know at all which one of those i need
[06:47] <Flannel> bobertdos1: they tend to treat every distro like redhat
[06:47] <SubOne> hey I deleted my home directory before I gave this laptop back to its owner, but now im using it again and all apps are crashing and freezing intermittently including gnome-panel and sound keeps dying in firefox... is there a script or something I can run to fix my home directory again?
[06:47] <ubuntunub> um, apparently, i'm browsing my Windows files! i thought this isn't supposed to happen?
[06:47] <bobertdos1> Flannel: true that :)
[06:48] <maxtothemax> SubOne: not much you can do
[06:48] <maxtothemax> full reinstall
[06:48] <blitz> ubuntunub: you can use and work with ntfs in linux
[06:48] <Flannel> SubOne: just recreate your home directory.
[06:48] <ubuntunub> blitz: i heard NTFS support is flaky in linux and its best to use a FAT32 partition for transfers
[06:48] <SubOne> Flannel: that's what I mean I have a home directory now but I guess some of the settings are wrong or something and everything keeps crashing and freezing
[06:48] <mordof> ubuntunub: not anymore
[06:48] <ubuntunub> blitz: or is it that Windows can't read/write Ext3?
[06:48] <blitz> ubuntunub: infact a good example is being able to run World of Warcraft FROM an ntfs drive thru wine.. everything works
[06:48] <bobertdos1> Flannel: Tsch, that might explain why the tutorials work for Fedora, (ot, I know)
[06:49] <blitz> windows cant really even recognize ext3
[06:49] <mordof> ubuntunub: there's capabilities for full read/write, partition create/resize/delete/move, etc on ubuntu now
[06:49] <ubuntunub> mordof: FULLY bug-free? any risk of messing up any data?
[06:49] <maxtothemax> there are ext3 drivers for windows
[06:49] <ubuntunub> mordof: cuz i'm paranoid
[06:49] <maxtothemax> you need to do everything perfect
[06:49] <mordof> ubuntunub: there's risk in anything you do with any partition manager. nothing with computers is ever 100% risk free
[06:50] <maxtothemax> I screwed up my MBR on my first install
[06:50] <Flannel> mordof: mail uses sendmail, so any sort of sendmail compatable thing will work, possibly even esmtp.  Either of those (exim or postfix) will work fine
[06:50] <ubuntunub> mordof: which sucks, since i like to think of computers as precise/perfect
[06:50] <mordof> ubuntunub: however i did resize my 250gb ntfs partition with gparted just fine without a format
[06:50] <SubOne> I suppose I can create a new user and use that user to delete and recreate this user, but im worried ill mess things up further doing that
[06:50] <blitz> ubuntunub: I haven't had a data loss problem with ntfs .. it works well
[06:50] <SebastianMcK> Thanks, how do i update my firefox to firefox 3.0? im running ubuntu 7.10
[06:50] <maxtothemax> make sure to defrag your ntfs partition
[06:50] <maxtothemax> first
[06:50] <Flannel> SubOne: the programs should be getting their configuration *from* your home directory, and if there is none, they'll treat it like a normal, new user.
[06:50] <maxtothemax> minimize risk of data loss
[06:50] <Flannel> SubOne: the only thing I can think of is you're having permissions errors
[06:51] <mordof> ubuntunub: it does work quite well. i trust it enough not to back up my regular stuff.. just .. REALLY important stuff i back up, lol
[06:51] <ubuntunub> SebastianMcK: UpdateManager i guess
[06:51] <maxtothemax> just always be sure to defrag
[06:51] <maxtothemax> before resizing
[06:51] <SebastianMcK> ubuntunub, alright thanks
[06:51] <mordof> yeah.. i should've done that, lol
[06:51] <ubuntunub> maxtothemax: so go into Windows, and use the defrag utility?
[06:51] <bobertdos1> blitz: There IS a driver that gives it the ability to read and write ext2 and 3.
[06:52] <SubOne> Flannel: permissions errors would be caused by missing config files in my home dir and cause random crashes/freezes of all apps?
[06:52] <maxtothemax> ubuntub: yes
[06:52] <SubOne> not all at once, but every app I mean
[06:52] <maxtothemax> or better yet
[06:52] <maxtothemax> use jkdefrag
[06:52] <alistair> help: I have an error on my main PC where boot says 'Grub loading error 17" Its my fault I removed the partition that linux was on so I have stuffed up the mbr
[06:52] <Flannel> SubOne: No, you literally *cant* be "missing" config files (unless you deleted them while you were using a program)
[06:52] <ubuntunub> maxtothemax: i dont like Vista's defrag utility that much since it doesnt actually show me a GUI representation of what its doing, so i feel like its doing nothing
[06:52] <Flannel> SubOne: A fresh user has *no* config files, and if you delete all your config files, you just become a fresh user again, and no programs know otherwise.
[06:52] <SubOne> Flannel: well I deleted my whole home dir
[06:52] <alistair> Help; any concur use fixmbr command or would I lose everything on that drive??
[06:52] <SubOne> ic
[06:53] <Flannel> SubOne: and then you recreated it, right? and its permissions are 755?
[06:53] <SubOne> well no permissions have changed
[06:53] <SubOne> sec...
[06:53] <blitz> ubuntunub: linux needs no defrag, just so you know :P
[06:53] <Flannel> SubOne: user:user 755, right?  (that's drwxr-xr-x)
[06:54] <alistair> Help: the pc should be booting up on Windows as thats on the primary drive and linux was on another drive but the boot record was modified by grub
[06:54] <SubOne> drwxr-xr-x 50 subone    subone    4096 2008-08-30 23:53 subone
[06:54] <ubuntunub> blitz: serious? why?
[06:54] <ph0rensic> alistair do you only want windows or do you want a dual boot still?
[06:54] <bobertdos1> !defrag > ubuntunub
[06:54] <mordof> ubuntunub: just cause it's that pro, lol
[06:54] <mordof> !defrag >mordof
[06:54] <Flannel> SubOne: And /etc/passwd has /home/subone right?  not like SubOne or anything?
[06:54] <mordof> xD
[06:55] <alistair> ph0rensic, I just want to get back to windows primarily because that drive has all my work on it.
[06:55] <ubuntunub> mordof: just why can't Windows be made to pwn this hard? i mean, they're paid programmers...
[06:55] <mordof> ubuntunub: microsoft.... >.>
[06:55] <Flannel> ubuntunub: Please take non-support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:55] <SubOne> subone:x:1001:1001:subone,,,,:/home/subone:/bin/zsh
[06:55] <carandraug> alistair: but with grub you can start windows. ALso, you can access your windows files from grub
[06:55] <bobertdos1> ubuntunub: If you go there, I'd be happy to discuss that issue with you :D
[06:56] <bullgard4> What is the function of the nvram module? 'modinfo nvram' does not answer this question.
[06:56] <alistair> no the grub is canning out because I killed the partition on the second drive which had linux
[06:56] <ph0rensic> alistair: Well you can edit the grub by hand to only have the config for your windows partition, but I think easiest way is to reinstall linux on the same partition and let grub fix it for you
[06:56] <Flannel> SubOne: alright, so everything there is fine.  What sorts of issues are you having exactly?  Try creating a new user, and see if they experience the same ones
[06:56] <maxtothemax> bullgard: wikipedia or google is very much your very good friend
[06:57] <alistair> ph0rensic, I need to modify the boot - is the grub the boot?
[06:57] <alistair> bootloader
[06:57] <maxtothemax> yes it is
[06:57] <maxtothemax> it's a good one too
[06:57] <ph0rensic> you got it
[06:57] <mordof> 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart' produces 'No apache MPM package installed'   :s can someone help? lol
[06:57] <SubOne> ok but that could take a while, I could be using the laptop all day and then all of a sudden firefox will crash, or pidgin will crash or ill try to shutdown and gnome-panel will crash and I have to switch to a vetrtual terminal to shutdown
[06:57] <tsukasa_> hey guys, whats the best protocol for transferring things to multiple people at the same time over lan? samba is ridiculously slow.
[06:57] <Flannel> mordof: do you have apache2 installed?
[06:57] <mordof> Flannel: yeah...
[06:57] <mordof> Flannel: it was through trying to get that last guide thing that you said sucked to work, lol -.-;
[06:58] <mordof> Flannel: evidence that it did suck pretty bad i guess
[06:58] <Flannel> mordof: Maybe I should take a look at what it did then
[06:58] <alistair> Help: I had two drives one with primary windows which I left alone, and 2nd with windows data and a partition for linux. I deleted the linux partition and now the grub is throwing its handbag down
[06:58] <ph0rensic> You know what sucks pretty bad is automatix.. is that still around?
[06:58] <maxtothemax> you'll need to install grub to the mbr
[06:59] <alistair> Help: the primary Windows is also the boot drive
[06:59] <maxtothemax> this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=905103
[06:59] <elkbuntu> ph0rensic, it's discontinued.
[06:59] <maxtothemax> slightly different problem but similar
[06:59] <mordof> Flannel: i did everything it said.. then when it didn't work, i did sudo apt-get remove all the packages it listed to install, and removed the directorys it said to make... >.>
[06:59] <ph0rensic> elkbuntu: Thank GOD!
[06:59] <tsukasa_> hey guys, whats the best protocol for transferring things to multiple people at the same time over lan? samba is ridiculously slow.
[06:59] <elkbuntu> ph0rensic, yeah.
[07:00] <maxtothemax> tsukasa:
[07:00] <maxtothemax> try nfs
[07:00] <dr_Willis> tsukasa_,  depends on the OS;s used.. NFS is faster for linux/unix machines
[07:00] <ubuntunub> any way to literally save all my currently open apps, so that when i Restart, it will load the apps back (IRC channels and all)?
[07:00] <Flannel> mordof: Is this a fresh install by any chance?
[07:00] <tsukasa_> dr_Willis: host is linux, clients are windows
[07:00] <maxtothemax> Don't know how well it'll work for communicating w/Windows
[07:00] <maxtothemax> worth a shot
[07:00] <blitz> ubuntunub: look into your system -> preferences -> sessions
[07:01] <maxtothemax> likely will require more configurement but nfs might run faster
[07:01] <dr_Willis> tsukasa_,  looks like you are stuck with samba, or find a nfs client stuff for windows. ( i hear some exist, but i ve never used them)
[07:01] <mordof> Flannel: well.. it basically is. i installed it a while ago, like.. several months. but all i did was install apache/php/mysql, and added another user to it. it's just been sitting there hosting my stuff since
[07:01] <mordof> Flannel: openssh is on there and configured as well. it's been running perfect up until that last guide ; ;
[07:02] <Flannel> mordof: Can you back up your homedir and /var/www and reinstall?  If you have lamp and ssh installed, and that's it, it'll be faster to reinstall that (and not wonder what other damage that guide did) than to try and sort out the mess it made.  If not, we should be able to get it working again with a little bit of work just fine.
[07:03] <mordof> Flannel: well :s i'm sort of on a deadline for this website i'm doing.. as in i needed to have it done yesturday >.< heh. but i need to test out a part that requires mail()..
[07:03] <alistair> help: when using the livecd and installing ubuntu - the partition it is going to use is the orange colored one is this correct?
[07:04] <Flannel> mordof: Alright, that's fine.  Lets just double check we have apache installed:  sudo apt-get install apache2
[07:04] <mordof> Flannel: if we could get it working temporarily at least until i can get a chance to do a full reinstall.. i'd reinstall ubuntu as soon as i got the time
[07:04] <thebitguru> I have created a new logical volume and added the return value of vol_id to /etc/fstab, but when I try to mount it, I get the error: mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/55a209a2-81f3-4f16-b47e-9079ad8483a1 does not exist
[07:04] <mordof> Flannel: the /etc/init.d/apache2 is still there, and apache is still running.
[07:04] <mordof> Flannel: i can access my websites still
[07:04] <thebitguru> what do I have to do to have /dev/mapper/mainvg-data should up in /dev/disk/by-uuid?
[07:04] <mordof> Flannel: oh.. crap.. maybe not ; ;
[07:04] <Flannel> mordof: Oh... that's... special.  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop, and then try again.
[07:05] <mordof> Flannel: wow, alright.. it did remove apache  completely -.-;
[07:05] <mordof> wow
[07:05] <mordof> i'm shocked..
[07:05] <mordof> ok, it's reinstalled
[07:05] <joustin> after installing Ubuntu a few months ago, I am having more fun with a pc than i have had in a long time
[07:05] <Flannel> mordof: good, since I was running out of ideas :)
[07:06] <mordof> flannel: php5 was also removed.....
[07:06] <blitz> mordof: just throwing it out there but I couldnt get my webserver working to public access until I changed the port, some ISPs naturally block port 80 .. probobly not the issue you're having tho
[07:06] <Flannel> mordof: Actually, do this:  tasksel and then check LAMP server and Mail server.
[07:06] <mordof> blitz: i broke into my modem to remove that restriction and made the modem 8080 instead, lol
[07:06] <Flannel> mordof: That all might work out of the box (well, sudo tasksel)
[07:07] <blitz> mordof: ok sweet
[07:07] <mordof> flannel: omg... i hope it didn't remove mysql
[07:07] <mordof> flannel: i didn't have that backed up.....
[07:07] <Gun_Smoke> I am trying to run gs to combine some pdfs together, I have 103 pdfs to join. gs -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -q -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=newfile.pdf file1.pdf file2.pdf....file103.pdf etc. will work.  Is there a faster way to list the files to join aside from typing all 103 manually?
[07:07] <joustin> anyone know whats p with linuxscrew.com?
[07:07] <Flannel> mordof: It won't remove the databases, just the binaries
[07:07] <mordof> ahh i'm saved, it left mysql alone ; ;
[07:08] <Flannel> mordof: and the global configuration if your purge it
[07:08] <Flannel> mordof: basically, the package managers only remove what they install.
[07:08] <mordof> Flannel: so if i install the lamp server, will it run off my databases that are there now?
[07:09] <Flannel> mordof: yeah, assumign you already have LAMP installed, that selection won't do much, if anything.
[07:09] <mordof> Flannel: i didn't use a lamp install
[07:09] <Flannel> mordof: but its a good way to verify we haven't missed something accidentally.
[07:09] <mordof> Flannel: i did everything individually
[07:09] <Flannel> mordof: that is a LAMP install
[07:09] <blackdream> everyone everyone
[07:09] <mordof> ok, so what do i install specifically?
[07:09] <Flannel> mordof: package management is a wonderful thing :)
[07:09] <Flannel> mordof: just check lamp and mail, and see if it works.
[07:10] <mordof> you mean apt-get install lamp mail    ?
[07:10] <Flannel> mordof: no, sudo tasksel, then pick LAMP server and mail server
[07:10]  * mordof is confused.
[07:10] <john_help_radeon> Hey Ckyle where are ya?
[07:11] <ckyle> john_help_radeon - hey
[07:11] <mordof> Flannel: ah, lamp was already selected
[07:11] <ckyle> ya ok?
[07:11] <mordof> flannel: ok done
[07:11] <john_help_radeon> didn't work bro
[07:11] <Flannel> mordof: because you have all of the pieces apparently (again, package management is wonderful)
[07:11] <risman> i want config uboot for i386. sc520_spunk or sc520_cdp. how do i understand?
[07:11] <john_help_radeon> shoot me a PM
[07:11] <Flannel> mordof: alright, now restart apache, and see if mail() works
[07:11] <ckyle> don't know how...
[07:11] <risman> i want config uboot for i386. sc520_spunk or sc520_cdp. how do i understand?
[07:11] <ckyle> start a conv like last time...
[07:12] <blackdream> does anyone know of a good windows manipulator for ubuntu linux? i wanna play warcraft 3 frozen throne on here
[07:12] <ckyle> ok?
[07:12] <john_help_radeon> I did but your not responding
[07:12] <bullgard4> What is the function of the nvram module? 'modinfo nvram' does not answer this question.
[07:12] <mordof> Flannel: php doesn't work
[07:12] <corigo> I've downloaded the HH ISO twice, but every time I burn it to disk I get an error. Anyone seeing this problem?
[07:12] <mordof> Flannel: no support for that file type
[07:12] <risman> i want config uboot for i386. sc520_spunk or sc520_cdp. how do i understand?
[07:12] <wols> blackdream: nveam is your cmos backed ram
[07:12] <mordof> Flannel: i have to re-configure it all -.-;
[07:12] <Flannel> mordof: Er.... special.  ok, sudo a2enmod php5
[07:12] <blitz> blackdream: wine is the best windows layer, check hinehq.com for compatability info
[07:13] <Flannel> mordof: and then restart again.
[07:13] <blitz> corigo: whats the error? and is it in burning or running the disk?
[07:13] <blackdream> alright i was just checking to see if there were anything else other then wine ^_^ thanks guyz
[07:13] <blackdream> @wols what is this nveam
[07:13] <wols> !vm  | blackdream
[07:13] <murlidhar> hi all how can i get my sound working in my base install. i also have hardy full installation which is working absolutely fine .
[07:14] <blitz> blackdream: you can look into cedega, Ive never used it personally tho
[07:14] <nnull> anyone know why id have 25+ copies of console-kit-daemon running?
[07:14] <Flannel> mordof: Does it work?
[07:14] <wols> bullgard4: nvram is your cmos backed ram
[07:14] <blackdream> thanks everyone :)
[07:14] <blackdream> let me check into these things
[07:14] <mordof> Flannel: ok, typing index.php works, just the file priority for apache to check the directory doesn't have php yet.. that's fine for now
[07:14] <mordof> Flannel: going to check and see if mail() works...
[07:14] <murlidhar> Flannel: how can i get my sound working in my base install. i also have hardy full installation which is working absolutely fine .
[07:15] <bullgard4> wols: I know that. But I asked about the nvram _module's_ function.
[07:15] <Flannel> !sound | murlidhar
[07:15] <Flannel> murlidhar: try the soundtroubleshooting page there
[07:15] <wols> bullgard4: access said nvram
[07:15] <bereta50> can  some one help me with a grub problem, i cant see the boot menu
[07:15] <wizzer> we talking about volatile and non volatile memory in here
[07:16] <smashcrab> can anybody help me with the keyboard layout in xorg.conf for an eeeepc 701?
[07:16] <carandraug> bereta50: did you install windows?
[07:16] <john_help_radeon> <Is wishing he had purchased an nVidia card>
[07:16] <bullgard4> wols: Your message " access said nvram" is too short to be comprehensible. Please elaborate.
[07:16] <carandraug> fire122: you're still there? You've finished burning the CD? You checked for defects?
[07:17] <smashcrab> I press 'M" it comes out "0" , but only after I log in ? I can type my username/password fine, but after that the layout gets messed up somehow
[07:17] <mordof> Flannel: sendmail: fatal: Recipient addresses must be specified on the command line or via the -t option
[07:17] <mordof> in the apache2 error log
[07:17] <Flannel> bereta50: What do you mean can't see the grub menu?
[07:17] <ubuntunub> how come when i change my desktop theme, it doesn't always change fully?
[07:17] <corigo> blitz: burning. After each ISO download and burn it fails on File1 written file doesn't match the source
[07:17] <bereta50> not exactly i reinstalled grub because i restored the windows MBR here is a forum thread
[07:17] <Flannel> mordof: Did you specify a recipient in php?
[07:17] <mordof> Flannel: yeah
[07:17] <ubuntunub> or takes forever to change, or just gets bugged
[07:18] <blitz> corigo: could be the burning program or your drive itself.. hard to say
[07:18] <blackdream> !Cedega
[07:19] <bolrog> how do i set a server to obtain its ip through dhcp?
[07:19] <Flannel> mordof: hmm, You'll need to try "sendmail" out in a terminal, see if that works.
[07:19] <mordof> Flannel: how do i do that? lol. sorry - i've never worked with sendmail at all
[07:20] <corigo> It also appears that the MD5s do not match
[07:20] <mordof> er.. right, man page
[07:20] <BonezAU> Does anyone know what is wrong with cdimage.ubuntu.com? I was half way through downloading something and it stopped, now the site appears to be down?
[07:20] <bereta50> my goal is to install ubuntu on a external drive and not afect the windows drive or its MBR
[07:20] <Flannel> mordof: Nor have I, but lets see what google nets us.  We actually should probably move this discussion (since its turning into one) to #ubuntu-offtopic, and spare this channel with our banter.
[07:21] <wols> bolrog: you edit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:21] <Flannel> bereta50: Try these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing%20on%20external%20or%20RAID%20hard%20disks
[07:21] <corigo> Or at least is doesn't match on my last download, the first does. Guess I'll try burning that one again, if I have any more media...
[07:21] <nnull> anyone know why id have 25+ copies of console-kit-daemon running?
[07:23] <corigo> Nope, no blank CDs left only DVDs. Which means downloading yet another ISO
[07:23] <ph0rensic> Is lonuxmint supported in this channel?
[07:24] <J-_> A few hours ago I was fooling around with my advanced settings for compiz fusion, and ever since I've fooled around with it my installation hasn't been the same. What should I uninstall to see if it works?
[07:24] <J-_> ccsm?
[07:25] <blitz> J-_: kind need to know whats different
[07:25] <blitz> kinda*
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[07:26] <carandraug> BonezAU: you can try to download with the torrent. I've downloaded the iso before in less than 20min with the torrent
[07:27] <J-_> blitz: I only had text windows appearing. no emerald, no "file, edit" etc in gnome terminal.
[07:27] <bolrog> thanks wols
[07:27] <carandraug> fire122: hi! So, how did it went? Also, if you don't get the nick right, I still won't be warned. Use autocomplete (tab in xchat)
[07:27] <J-_> blitz: Then I tried to restart, and my desktop isn't loading
[07:27] <J-_> Just the background
[07:28] <blitz> J-_:  sounds like you turned off borders
[07:28] <Rat409>  /cl
[07:28] <J-_> blitz: emerald --replace?
[07:28] <J-_> no
[07:28] <blitz> J-_:  is the "window Decoration" box checked in your ccsm?
[07:28] <J-_> blitz: I can't get there to check.
[07:29] <J-_> I'm sure it is/ was.
[07:29] <blitz> hmm "gtk-window-decorator --replace" may help
[07:29] <J-_> Gnome isn't even starting proper. I have no panels
[07:29] <corigo> Can anyone tell me if I need a different ISO to burn a DVD installer disk?
[07:29] <J-_> Chatting in a tty right now.
[07:30] <carandraug> J-_: if you run ccsm in the terminal you'll get there
[07:30] <ckyle> what ATI chip is the ATI Radeon 1650 Pro based on?
[07:30] <ckyle> trying to work on driver issue
[07:30] <dr_Willis> corigo,  there are dvd iso image files.. then cd iso image files..  You dont gain much by using the dvd.
[07:30]  * J-_ tries
[07:31] <corigo> dr_Willis I am out of CD's and only have DVDs.
[07:31] <blitz> J-_: I personally dont know of a way to sed all compiz settings to default, but someone in here probobly does
[07:31] <J-_> carandraug: What's the command to start it?
[07:31] <J-_> compiz-config-settings-manager?
[07:31] <john_help_radeon> Alright kyle..
[07:31] <dr_Willis> corigo,  you are going to download 4x the data you need.  it dosent matter. just a  a bit of a time waster
[07:31] <bullgard4> What is the function of the nvram module? 'modinfo nvram' does not answer this question.
[07:32] <carandraug> J-_: to start the compiz setting manager is ccsm
[07:32] <dr_Willis> bullgard4,  egads.. you still exploring that thing? You have looked at the kernel soruce for it perhaps?
[07:32] <ckyle> hey john...
[07:32] <nnull> anyone know why id have 25+ copies of console-kit-daemon running?
[07:32] <john_help_radeon> We made progress this time!
[07:32] <DucatiBoy> is it possible to mount a usb camera and read it like a drive..?
[07:32] <J-_> Yeah, I can't start it in another tty.
[07:32] <blitz> J-_: got an idea tho, if you can get to gnome, even see the wallpaper, try and do an Alt-F2 and run "metacity --replace"
[07:33] <outbriber> nnull: do they come back after you kill them?
[07:33] <J-_> Nope doesn't work
[07:33] <Flannel> bereta50: a grub> prompt while booting means that stage1 (the part in your MBR) can't find stage1.5 or stage2 (basically, can't find your menu.lst)
[07:33] <nnull> outbriber, havent dared to kill them
[07:33] <blitz> j-_: the window not come up? or the command didnt work
[07:33] <nnull> they might be for something i need
[07:34] <corigo> dr_Willis yes, well it has already been 2 weeks trying to get a decent backup with a LiveCD (Any live cd) and a CD installer that will install... so any more time wasted is only par for the course
[07:34] <john_help_radeon> Hey I need some help!
[07:34] <nnull> i dont seem to be alone thank god http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3600578
[07:34] <john_help_radeon> We've gotten much farther, NOW I am having issues with a white screen after login with my Radeon
[07:35] <carandraug> fire122: so???
[07:35] <J-_> blitz: window didn't come up. Brb, just removed ccsm
[07:35] <bullgard4> dr_Willis: I have made considerable progress. Using this module, I am able to peek into the contents of my CMOS RAM. I even got an idea what the function of this module is. But I do not want to prejudice ant thus I am not telling. I grepped the kernel Documentation for 'nvram' and got > 30 hits. It takes much time to scrutinize all of them.
[07:36] <bullgard4> and
[07:37] <dr_Willis> bullgard4,  as long as you are having fun I guess.. :)
[07:38] <mmm4m5m> Hi all. I have a question please. I got all msgs printed during boot (not silent). I want boot process to pause on every error or warning. Second, after login, I want to be able to switch to console (Alt+Ctrl+F1) and scroll up all msgs (Right now, after login, if I switch to console I am able to scroll up only one screen). Anyone who can advice or who have similar setup of boot process? Or any hints? Is it part of /etc/init.d scripts (I am not really sure t
[07:38] <john_help_radeon> Im still having issues guys. Like I said, I boot up to login now, and THEN I get a white screen, however, fglrxinfo is still saying I have the MESA drivers??
[07:39] <gavintlgold> hi, can anyone tell me how I can set a directory for a python script to use as the default in a console command?
[07:40] <php6th> how to make Conky rss feeds, linkable?
[07:40] <bullgard4> mmm4m5m: I'd like to scrollup all these start-up messages too. It seems to be impossible in Ubuntu 8.04.1 due to Upstart.
[07:41] <kiosk_> ce-IMOUT
[07:42] <carandraug> fire122: I really have to go (it's almost 8:00AM here). Hope you don't find any problems during the next installation
[07:42] <mmm4m5m> bullgard4: thanks for answer. About the other question? If I post feature request, to which part these two belong? (to upstart or something else). Did you ever had a case when you see a msg and after that this warning/error msg is missing in all log files?
[07:43] <DucatiBoy> is it possible to mount a usb camera and read it like a drive..?
[07:43] <mimor> What are the best permissions for /var/www?    774 or 665 ?
[07:44] <gavintlgold> ah.... PWD=[directory]
[07:44] <TimStarling_> why are there so few debug symbol packages?
[07:44] <TimStarling_> are we meant to make our own?
[07:45] <J-_> Yep, still the same problem. I've removed ccsm, but the cube is still acting weird, No desktop. I can't middle click and the cube is still present
[07:46] <J-_> How can I reconfigure compiz-fusion?
[07:46] <bullgard4> mmm4m5m: It is difficult to understand you. What do you mean by "the other question": 'I want boot process to pause on every error or warning.' or what? --  I do not understand your sentence: " If I post feature request, to which part these two belong?"
[07:47] <J-_> bleh
[07:47] <nassty> hello, how do I change the subtitles color in Totem?
[07:48] <mmm4m5m> bullgard4: sorry, could be my English :). Yes, the other question is "how to make it pause on every warning/error". I have basic knowledge of linux, that is why I am asking "how to fix/customize it", "which binary/package/script is executed during boot process", "which one I have to look closer and try to customize" (or post it as future request, maybe someone will find it useful and implement it)
[07:50] <bereta50> can anyone tell me why i don't see any options in grub when i boot my computer
[07:50] <Tarandus> after installing samba in order to share my directories, do I need to log out and then log in again?
[07:50] <fransman> how do i do a ln -s boot ./. ?
[07:50] <Tarandus> bereta50: can your grub find its root drive?
[07:50] <Tarandus> fransman: what is your purpose in doing that?
[07:51] <Tarandus> fransman: I guess you do it ln -s boot .
[07:51] <Myrtti> fransman: what are you trying to do?
[07:51] <Tarandus> fransman: also, you need to use sudo at the beginning
[07:52] <Myrtti> fransman: what are you trying to achieve?
[07:52] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: i dont know i dont think so, how can i tell, all i get is a grub> when i boot of that perticular HDD
[07:52] <fransman> boot is a partition and if he wants to look into boot as a directory in want a link to boot
[07:52] <J-_> Bleh, this sucks :(
[07:53] <corigo> Any idea where I can find a DVD ISO to download
[07:53] <Tarandus> Myrtti: I've seen such links here and there, but can't understand their purpose either
[07:53] <fransman> like boot -> .
[07:53] <Tarandus> corigo: from Ubuntu's homepage
[07:53] <Tarandus> corigo: it is the ubuntu.com not ubuntu.org
[07:53] <Tarandus> corigo: where are you located?
[07:53] <corigo> Vietnam
[07:54] <Myrtti> fransman: errr do you have some sort of netbook install or have you installed using wubi?
[07:54] <Tarandus> corigo: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[07:54] <corigo> Yes, on Ubuntu.com and all of the different download locations I see CD ISOs, I don't see DVD ISOs
[07:54] <Tarandus> corigo: there you can select Vietnam from the list
[07:54] <legend2440> mmm4m5m: there is a boot log in /var folder  however, the bootlogd  daemon doesn't work for some reason. you can read about it here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49925
[07:54] <Tarandus> corigo: ah, sorry
[07:54] <fransman> Myrtti: sorry it's on a server
[07:54] <Flannel> corigo: cdimage has DVDs, unfortunately CDimage is down at the moment
[07:54] <[G]uillu[X]> Hola! Alguien habla en Espaniol?
[07:55] <Flannel> !es | [G]uillu[X]
[07:55] <Tarandus> !fi Tarandus
[07:55] <[G]uillu[X]> thx!!
[07:55] <corigo> I'm convinced that the HH_amd64 ISO is bad.
[07:55] <bereta50> is there a way to enable or disble the the grub menu
[07:55] <Tarandus> bereta50: disable in which way? uninstall the whole grub?
[07:56] <DIFH-iceroot> bereta50: in the grub-config you can enable or disable the view for the menu
[07:56] <Tarandus> bereta50: there is a way to password protect the menu, but if grub is installed, the menu will always appear if you press a key at the right moment
[07:57] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: im thinking that he menu is somehow disabled
[07:57] <DIFH-iceroot> bereta50: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:57] <bereta50> ﻿DIFH-iceroot: im looking at that right now
[07:58] <corrish> hello world
[07:58] <Tarandus> corigo: http://nginyang.uvt.nl/hardy/
[07:59] <bereta50> ﻿DIFH-iceroot: or does anyone know when i could find an example of what the menu.lst should look like
[07:59] <Tarandus> anyway... to get samba working, do I need to log out and then log in after installing it?
[08:00] <Tarandus> bereta50: if you don't have one, there is a grub command to create one
[08:00] <bereta50> what is the command?
[08:00] <Tarandus> bereta50: try sudo update-grub
[08:01] <mmm4m5m> legend2440: thank you very much, will read and try to enable it
[08:01] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: I am running off of the live CD right now
[08:01] <Tarandus> bereta50: have you installed a system anywhere?
[08:01] <J-_> How can I reconfigure compiz-fusion?
[08:02] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: yes... what do you mean if i have installed linux before?
[08:02] <Tarandus> bereta50: I mean, is there an installed linux system now in your machine that you are trying to fix?
[08:02] <Tarandus> bereta50: if there is, then you need to mount it and be able to chroot into it
[08:03] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: yes there is ...on my external drive
[08:03] <Tarandus> but its root drive is not mounted at the moment?
[08:04] <mmm4m5m> bullgard4, legend2440: if you are interested, someone advice me to: put "cat /dev/vcs1 >> /path/to/file " it inside /etc/init.d scripts
[08:04] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: i mounted it to /boot/
[08:04] <Tarandus> bereta50: well, I think you shouldn't
[08:04] <Tarandus> bereta50: mount it to /target/
[08:04] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: whre should i mount it
[08:04] <Guest1> hello
[08:04] <Tarandus> bereta50: do you have a separate boot partition?
[08:05] <Guest1> i just bought a laptop, is there a way to use the live cd in order to check if all hardware is recognized, before actually installing?
[08:05] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: on there drive....yes
[08:06] <J-_> what's a good text web browser?
[08:06] <Tarandus> bereta50: then mount it under /target/boot/
[08:06] <J-_> !browser
[08:06] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus:ok i some one told me about chroot
[08:06]  * J-_ installs links2
[08:06] <Guest1> and also, will i have problems, being that my laptop comes with 2 separate hds? (i was thinking of installing ubuntu on a separate one, vista on the other)
[08:06] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus:ok i will do that
[08:06] <Guest1> !grub
[08:07] <Guest1> :P
[08:09] <Tarandus> bereta50: then... mount  --bind /dev/ /target/dev
[08:09] <Tarandus> bereta50: and... mount -t proc proc /target/proc
[08:09] <Tarandus> bereta50: and finally... mount -t sysfs sys /target/sys
[08:10] <rockwellgump> how do you get rid of the horrible beep noise?
[08:10] <Tarandus> bereta50: then you can do a chroot /target/
[08:11] <Tarandus> rockwellgump: I get rid of it by pressing the oven's timer in the kitchen... but where and when does your horrible beep noise happen?
[08:11] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: ok so what do i do first ?
[08:12] <Tarandus> bereta50: you did all the three mount commands and the chroot?
[08:12] <rockwellgump> Tarandus: whenever i hit backspace and there is nuthing to backspace over
[08:12] <rockwellgump> Tarandus: and delete
[08:13] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: i have made /target/boot
[08:13] <Tarandus> bereta50: then you can try update-grub and it will create a menu.lst into your /boot/grub/
[08:13] <Tarandus> bereta50: after that you need to mount your separate boot partition there
[08:13] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: what mount command do i use to mount first ...
[08:14] <Tarandus> well... it depends on your boot partition
[08:14] <Tarandus> which one is it
[08:14] <deakillo> hello can someone help me... i want to do something but i cant... :)
[08:14] <C0MPAQ> hello. I want to use a CF-Card via PCMCIA, however in xubuntu 8.04 it is properly loaded on the LiveCD and on the installed system nothing happens. I loaded all required modules for pata_pcmcia, did a reset with pccardctl, no kernel messages no pccardctl status, nothing. Cause for this?
[08:15] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: hd1,0
[08:15] <Tarandus> bereta50: and the root partition is?
[08:15] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: or sdb1
[08:15] <legend2440> rockwellgump: if you mean the beep in the  terminal when you backspace then  edit>current profile  uncheck box next to Terminal Bell
[08:15] <lesshaste> is it possible to install a .deb package as a user by cunningly persuading it to add your home directory to all the path names?
[08:15] <Tarandus> bereta50: mount /dev/sdb1 /target/boot/
[08:16] <deakillo> For some reason a FLOPPY DRIVE appears in my desktop and I DONT use floppy drive lol... and i try to put it in trash but i cant.. how can i get rid of it?? its annoying...
[08:16] <Tarandus> lesshaste: AFAIK no, because it wants to add the package into its database in /var
[08:16] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: ok done
[08:16] <Tarandus> lesshaste: it is therefore not possible to install it, but unpacking does work
[08:17] <lesshaste> Tarandus, ok.. so you can't ask it not to do that?  I just want to avoid having to compile things
[08:17] <lesshaste> Tarandus, ah...how do you unpack it?
[08:17] <Tarandus> lesshaste: I have no idea... it's been a long time since I last came upon that command... it is dpkg-something
[08:17] <lesshaste> Tarandus, ok thanks.. unpacking is what I want
[08:17] <bazhang> !info gdebi
[08:18] <Tarandus> bereta50: then the three mount commands, for dev, proc and sys
[08:19] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: could you please repeat those if its not to much trouble
[08:19] <Tarandus> bereta50: mount  --bind /dev/ /target/dev; mount -t proc proc /target/proc; mount -t sysfs sys /target/sys
[08:20] <rockwellgump> legend2440: that helped for backspace and delete, thanks.  it still beeps when i press an arrow key
[08:20] <Tarandus> rockwellgump: pull the internal speaker's wires off your motherboard
[08:20] <Tarandus> rockwellgump: guaranteed to solve all beeps... I, for example, do not have an internal speaker - thus no beeps
[08:21] <Rat409> rockwellgump: maybe sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and adding pcspkr?
[08:21] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: thank you, so replace dev with my sdb1, right?
[08:21] <Tarandus> bereta50: no
[08:21] <Rat409> wont change till next boot tho
[08:21] <mamoru_new_here> do i need to install windows 1st before i use wine to play windows game?
[08:22] <blitz> mamoru_new_here: no
[08:22] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: no??? what am i mounting
[08:22] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: thx
[08:22] <Tarandus> bereta50: you need to 1. mount your /, 2. mount your /boot/, 3. mount the three system filesystems, 4. chroot into the system, 5. create a menu.lst, 6. install grub
[08:23] <Tarandus> bereta50: you need to have a / in /target/, boot/ in /target/boot/, dev in /target/dev/, sysfs in /target/sys, proc in /target/proc/ and then chroot into it
[08:23] <Nelson_Apart> excuse me, anyone knows how to use VI? how to save file?
[08:23] <blitz> mamoru_new_here: but it is imperative you run winecfg
[08:24] <Rat409> Nelson_Apart: :qw? quit write
[08:24] <farid> hi kira
[08:24] <Flannel> Nelson_Apart: :q will just save
[08:24] <farid> how are u{kira}
[08:24] <Tarandus> Nelson_Apart: :x does a save+quit
[08:25] <Tarandus> and :w will just save, :q will just quit, :q' will quit without asking anything
[08:25] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: ok i understand, as you can see im still learning
[08:25] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: like setting the directx and something? because im really new here
[08:26] <blitz> mamoru_new_here: after you install wine, open a terminal and type winecfg ... set up each of the tabs best you can and autodetect your drives
[08:27] <blitz> mamoru_new_here: any windows program you install will then go into /home/username/.wine/drive_c...
[08:28] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: so just the game program and run it?
[08:29] <blitz> mamoru_new_here: you can navigate through the .wine directory and run .exe files directly
[08:29] <mamoru_new_here> ow okay
[08:29] <mamoru_new_here> thx
[08:29] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: ok just ran the 3 mount commands now what do I chroot into, and how?
[08:30] <blitz> mamoru_new_here: certain programs can be run from a windows install, but not all of them
[08:30] <Tarandus> bereta50: chroot /target/
[08:30] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: mostly game can run? hoping they can use directx 10 :D
[08:30] <Tarandus> bereta50: you should appear as the root user of the system you installed on your external drive
[08:30] <rockwellgump> i want to dual boot with xp and ubuntu.  i have xp and ubuntu installed on seperate partitions, i want to have the option of choosing what os to run on startup
[08:31] <Tarandus> rockwellgump: what does it do now?
[08:31] <blitz> mamoru_new_here: not likely.. linux does not play most windows games, especially newer ones well
[08:31] <Tarandus> bereta50: once there, run update-grub
[08:31] <rockwellgump> it boots in xp automatically unless i tell it to boot from ubuntu disc
[08:31] <blitz> mamoru_new_here: there are some designed platform-independent like neverwinter nights or world of warcraft, that will work perfect though
[08:31] <Rat409> Nelson_Apart: iirc you can run vimtutor in any xterm
[08:32] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: i get this when i run chroot chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[08:32] <rockwellgump> Tarandus:  it boots in xp automatically unless i tell it to boot from ubuntu disc
[08:32] <Tarandus> bereta50: try cd /target/
[08:33] <Tarandus> bereta50: then type ls
[08:33] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: i still like neverwinter tho.. i stick with it for a while. so there is any program can run games? i found 1 name C.. something but i must pay for it :D
[08:33] <Tarandus> bereta50: how many files and directories are there?
[08:33] <pen> is there any IDE for gtk theme?
[08:33] <bullgard4> What is the function of the nvram module? 'modinfo nvram' does not answer this question.
[08:33] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: 4 directoryes
[08:33] <Tarandus> bereta50: what are they called?
[08:34] <blitz> mamoru_new_here: games are not generally playable because I believe of the directX code not being open source
[08:34] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: boot, dev, proc, sys
[08:34] <Rat409> pen: widgetfactory
[08:34] <Tarandus> am I able to run Office 2007 Home and Student edition with wine?
[08:34] <pen> Rat409, that is not a IDE
[08:35] <pen> Rat409, and it doesn't make theming easier
[08:35] <Tarandus> bereta50: it seems you did not mount the / filesystem then
[08:35] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: ic ic... hope there is an open source directx soon :D so linux will took ove the other os
[08:35] <Tarandus> bereta50: you need to unmount all those four, then try again mounting the / filesystem from your external drive to /target/
[08:35] <blitz> mamoru_new_here, directx is the only reason I have windows installed
[08:36] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: im lost,
[08:36] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: lol
[08:36] <Tarandus> bereta50: there should appear about 15 directory names inside /target/ when that happens
[08:36] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: install windows with wine?
[08:37] <blitz> mamoru_new_here, no theres no need to ever do that
[08:37] <blitz> mamoru_new_here, you can choose when you boot which OS to enter if you set everything up correctly
[08:37] <lint> can someoen tell me how to put the trashbin on my desktop?
[08:37] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: so mount the whole external drive to target ? and then mount the 3 thing to the external drive ?
[08:38] <Tarandus> bereta50: yes... I mean, not the whole drive, but the root partition of your installed linux system
[08:38] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: dual boot? i was thinking that wat dual booting 2 os in 2 hdd
[08:38] <mamoru_new_here> ce_cute_17^-^ : apa kabar? org indo kah?
[08:39] <blitz> mamoru_new_here, you dont nessicarily need 2 hard drives if you have the space, just 2 OS partitions
[08:39] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: dint i mount the whole thing to boot?
[08:40] <Tarandus> bereta50: umm... do you have a separate /boot partition, or just a root or / partition?
[08:41] <Tarandus> bereta50: if you have both, you need to mount both, but if you have only a / partition and no /boot/ partition, you need to only mount the / partition into /target/
[08:42] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: i have 3 spare new unused hdd :D. any way my external hdd is ntfs or fat32 i can still use the mp3 or movie file on my linux?
[08:42] <blitz> mamoru_new_here, yes without problems
[08:42] <Tarandus> bereta50: go to www.pastebin.com
[08:42] <Tarandus> bereta50: type 'mount' in the terminal, just mount and nothing else
[08:43] <Tarandus> bereta50: then copy and paste the text into the www.pastebin.com page
[08:43] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: ok
[08:43] <Tarandus> then click "Send"
[08:43] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: great so i can still borrow them to my nephew to watch some toku show, download it with linux and watch it on win
[08:43] <Tarandus> bereta50: I have http://pastebin.com/m2f2fd81e
[08:44] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: thx so much ^^
[08:44] <bolrog> if im setting up port masquerading/internet connection sharing, does the interface connected to the client need to have a static ip?
[08:44] <blitz> mamoru_new_here, np
[08:44] <bolrog> make that ip masquerading
[08:44] <Tarandus> bereta50: paste me your link
[08:45] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: i dont understatnd
[08:45] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: what link
[08:45] <Tarandus> bereta50: did you put text there, into www.pastebin.com?
[08:46] <Tarandus> bereta50: after you press "Send", it will come to a page with your text on it
[08:46] <Tarandus> bereta50: in the address bar of your web browser is the address you need to give me here
[08:46] <bereta50> http://pastebin.com/maf38cac
[08:47] <bofh80> when updating a kernel do i *need* to install the headers as well?
[08:47] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: ok my skull is a bit think today :)
[08:48] <Tarandus> bereta50: umm... cd /boot
[08:48] <Tarandus> bereta50: there if you do ls, how many directories you see?
[08:49] <Tarandus> bofh80: I guess not, unless you are going to compile modules
[08:49] <Tarandus> bofh80: or compile glibc
[08:49] <bereta50> ﻿ Tarandus: 19 or so
[08:50] <bofh80> Tarandus, thanks
[08:50] <Tarandus> bereta50: and if you go to /boot/boot then what do you see?
[08:50] <Tarandus> bereta50: files with version numbers?
[08:50] <Tarandus> bereta50: my guess is that you do not have a separate boot partition
[08:51] <bereta50> ﻿ Tarandus: yes with version numbers and the grub directory
[08:51] <Initial_M> Pidgin prob can't send files
[08:51] <e-jay> vsem privet
[08:51]  * gaile gud evening :)
[08:52] <CaptainMorgan> I'm trying to change the default EDITOR with .bashrc: export EDITOR=vi , I save the file and restart the terminal, however, sudo crontab -e still pops up with nano... why is it not changed to vi ?
[08:52] <Tarandus> bereta50: ok, then unmount /target/boot, /target/dev, /target/sys, /target/proc, /boot and /media/disk
[08:52] <CaptainMorgan> I also confirmed that .bashrc was saved proprely with the necessary edits
[08:52] <CaptainMorgan> or export
[08:53] <gaile> guys what is it mean "unable to resolve host myhost" ?
[08:53] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: sudo would be roots default editor, not yours
[08:53] <CaptainMorgan> gaile, the DNS can't find the name of the IP
[08:54] <Tarandus> gaile: that there is someone asking for the address of a machine called myhost, and no such machine exists
[08:54] <Tarandus> gaile: what were you doing when that appeared?
[08:54] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, doh.. thanks
[08:54] <joustin> can anyone reccommend a good ftp client?
[08:54] <gaile> CaptainMorgan and Tarandus: how can i fix it
[08:54] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: what is the unmount command
[08:54] <Tarandus> bereta50: umount
[08:55] <gaile> Tarandus: i just installed tspc ipv6
[08:55] <joustin> anyone have a recommendation?
[08:55] <Tarandus> joustin: I just use firefox and wget
[08:55] <Tarandus> gaile: I guess you need to put something in place of myhost, an address or a real hostname for example
[08:56] <gaile> and when i tried to restart I got this error message
[08:56] <slamFIST> joustin: gftp, ncftp, or just.. ftp
[08:56] <gaile> Tarandus: where can I accomplsh that?
[08:56] <Jonny> could anyone help me with getting flash to work. I have a fresh install and it doesnt seem to be working , been searching the forums and what not and i think im just making things worse
[08:56] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: its telling me command not found
[08:57] <gaile> Tarandus: where or how can I accomplsh that?
[08:57] <CodeWar> I ve got 4 desktops General->Desktop Size -> xxx Virtual Size = 2. How do I get the 3d cube effect with 4 desktops on each of its faces
[08:59] <Tarandus> bereta50: unmount then if not umount
[08:59] <Tarandus> bereta50: it is umount
[08:59] <joot> Jonny: there is a comprehensive howto in ubuntu forums under multi media did you see that yet??
[09:00] <Tarandus> joot: Gnash or Swfdec or Adobe?
[09:00] <Tarandus> joot: I just installed Swfdec, and it can't show Youtube
[09:00] <Jonny> im under browsing with firefox section right now
[09:00] <murlidha1> can a ncurses based type player be made as default player . ? ie when i click an audio file in pcmanfm then ncurses player should start playing
[09:01] <joot> Swfdec shows ytube on machine but not other flash movies
[09:01] <Tarandus> I'm a bit anti-Stallman, so I am also a bit reluctant to go with Gnash over Swfdec :p
[09:01] <joot> utube
[09:01] <Jonny> i think i might have found something , i thought i had the restricted extras installed but i dont
[09:02] <joot> Tarandus: Jonny: I will go find the link for you guys
[09:02] <murlidha1> can a ncurses based type player be made as default player . ? ie when i click an audio file in pcmanfm then ncurses player should start playing
[09:02] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: ok its umount, all unmounted lol
[09:03] <Tarandus> bereta50: then... just mount /dev/sdb1 /target
[09:03] <Tapout> shift: 108: can't shift that many  <-- anyone seen that before when running mysql-server.sh ?
[09:03] <Tarandus> bereta50: then mount those three under /target
[09:03] <Tarandus> bereta50: then you can chroot, and it should work
[09:03] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: done, now the 3 mount commands
[09:04] <Tarandus> bereta50: yes
[09:04] <Tarandus> bereta50: then, just to be sure, type again 'mount' and put the result into pastebin
[09:04] <Tarandus> bereta50: also... by the way... are you sure your machine can boot from an external hard drive?
[09:05] <joot> Tarandus: Jonny: Se if this will help you  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[09:05] <Tarandus> bereta50: I have a brand new machine I built myself, and this one can not
[09:05] <aslyetai> anyone offer assistance to a nub trying to get wireless working on a laptop?
[09:06] <bullgard4> What is the function of the nvram module? 'modinfo nvram' does not answer this question.
[09:07] <murlidha1> can a ncurses based type player be made as default player . ? ie when i click an audio file in pcmanfm then ncurses player should start playing
[09:07] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: it can boot form a external drive i have done it before on with a persistent live USB, lol , ok just chrooted
[09:07] <fabz0r> hey im trying to use my local unofficial mirror but i cant get the apt line right or something
[09:08] <Tarandus> bereta50: do you have Windows on the internal HD?
[09:08] <joot> bullgard4: according to google it is a special memory board
[09:08] <aslyetai> im trying to use directions from the forums to get a broadcom adapter working in hardy, but i don't have permission to create a blacklist file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[09:09] <Tarandus> aslyetai: use sudo
[09:09] <fabz0r> can i make ubuntu use an unofficial mirror?
[09:09] <murlidha1> fabz0r: after adding a repos it is necessary that u do sudo apt-get update before using sudo apt-get install
[09:09] <fabz0r> 8.04 32 bit
[09:09] <aslyetai> i don't know the command to create a new gedit doc
[09:09] <Tarandus> fabz0r: manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:09] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus:  http://pastebin.com/m5f30d179
[09:09] <bullgard4> joot: I did not ask for a board. I asked for a Linux loadable module.
[09:09] <fabz0r> i see Tarandus
[09:09] <fabz0r> i thought there was a way
[09:10] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: yes on the internal HDD
[09:10] <Tarandus> bereta50: and now when you boot, it just goes to Windows?
[09:10] <ikonia> bullgard4: is this in relation to your thinkpad ?
[09:10] <murlidha1> fabz0r: did u say repos or mirror?
[09:10] <joot> bullgard4: I just googled nvram module and that was one of the many answers
[09:10] <Tarandus> aslyetai: you need to be in a terminal window
[09:10] <aslyetai> im there
[09:11] <cosmin> jh
[09:11] <Tarandus> aslyetai: try sudo gedit
[09:11] <fabz0r> lol some plonker os put these in the wrong order
[09:11] <Tarandus> aslyetai: you get a gedit on steroids that will edit just about anything, so be careful
[09:11] <bullgard4> ikonia: No. Not in particular. This module exists and works also in another laptop computer which is not an IBM thinkpad.
[09:11] <fabz0r> murlidha1: does it matter?
[09:11] <fabz0r> i thionk i mean deb and deb src
[09:12] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: yes but i have an option to force boot of the usb, you hit esc at boot scren and then you chuse a scree
[09:12] <aslyetai> why wouldn't it let me do that in su -?
[09:12] <Chro42> Ok Having install issues still.
[09:12] <Tarandus> bereta50: but there, try doing the update-grub
[09:12] <ikonia> bullgard4: basiclly a memory "status" holder, eg: if your volume is set to 10, and you knock it down to 8 - the fact that it's held at 8 is stored in nvram
[09:12] <bullgard4> joot: So I must tell you that the answer is wrong.
[09:13] <Chro42> Install Issues Blank screen with blinking cursor
[09:13] <ikonia> bullgard4: but this is nothing to do with ubuntu - as normal, so I must ask you to take it to a more appropriate channel unless you have an ubuntu specific question
[09:13] <bullgard4> ikonia: But is this information not held in the CMOS RAM proper?
[09:13] <ckyle> installing Vista when I already have ubuntu installed... am using Ubuntu 8.04 and grub on 1 hard-drive (clean install). I've installed a second hard-drive that will be nothing but Vista (don't want to crap up my Linux drive). If I install Vista, I know it's going to stomp my boot to Linux. How best to install Vista? Should I disconnect my Linux hard-drive and install vista, then reconnect my Linux hd, and do something with grub?
[09:13] <KoolD> does anyone know of a good flash alternative in linux
[09:13] <ikonia> bullgard4: no
[09:13] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: ok done
[09:13] <fabz0r> whoo thanks fixed :)
[09:14] <Flannel> !grub | ckyle, first link
[09:14] <joot> bullgard4: We may have to to sue google do we need to check its others anwers first ??XD
[09:14] <Flannel> ckyle: Just leave it, and reinstall grub to your MBR afterwards
[09:14] <Jonny> hey joot thx alot , something i did from that guide in the multimedia section of the forums worked for me
[09:14] <Flannel> ckyle: Or disconnect, sure
[09:14] <Tarandus> bereta50: then go to /boot/grub
[09:14] <ikonia> joot: please don't be silly - it's up to you to check the facts before speaking
[09:14] <linuX|xl00p> hey guys,  http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=42697&file1=42697-1.jpg&file2=42697-2.jpg&file3=42697-3.jpg&name=LiNsta+(LiNsta+is+Not+Vista+%3B-) there you can see  "PLAYING" with xmms and cpuload how i do that? before you answer check the pic please =)
[09:14] <carlos_> what file system type do i type into sudo mount -t FILESYSTEM /dev/sdb1 /media/mount_point if my file system is HPFS/NTFS
[09:15] <joot> Jonny: great that you got a result
[09:15] <Tarandus> bereta50: how many files are there?
[09:15] <ckyle> Flannel - if I disconnect, then I just need to edit my GRUB file?
[09:15] <ikonia> carlos_: ntfs
[09:15] <ckyle> to get Vista as an option?
[09:15] <bullgard4> joot: Probably Google is not to blame. May be the author of the articel which you cite.
[09:15] <Flannel> ckyle: Yeah
[09:15] <bullgard4> article
[09:15] <ckyle> cool thx
[09:15] <carlos_> ikonia, i tried ntfs but it said "unrecognized file type"
[09:15] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen I have the ALT CD now
[09:15] <ikonia> carlos_: then it's not an ntfs partition
[09:15] <linuX|xl00p> hey guys,  http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=42697&file1=42697-1.jpg&file2=42697-2.jpg&file3=42697-3.jpg&name=LiNsta+(LiNsta+is+Not+Vista+%3B-) there you can see  "PLAYING" with xmms and cpuload how i do that? before you answer check the pic please =)
[09:15] <Tarandus> ckyle: do not disconnect, or at least I wouldn't... I'd expect a very confused Vista from that
[09:16] <joot> Ikonia: I told the guy the info came from google and made no claim of any knowledge on the subject:((((
[09:16] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus:13
[09:16] <carlos_> ikonia, just kidding, i had tried NTFS but it's ntfs..... big difference haha neways case-sensitive, forgot that, thanks bro peace
[09:16] <pcany> hi
[09:16] <Tarandus> bereta50: then run grub
[09:16] <murlidha1> can a ncurses based type player be made as default player . ? ie when i click an audio file in pcmanfm then ncurses player should start playing
[09:16] <bereta50> you mean restart and see if it works?
[09:17] <Tarandus> bereta50: no
[09:17] <ikonia> murlidha1: I don't see why not as long as your launcher command is correct
[09:17] <Tarandus> bereta50: type grub in the terminal
[09:17] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:17] <mrglinu[X]> hi I have a notebook with conexant modem driver and in ubuntu 7.10 I installed dell conexant driver and worked very good but in ubuntu 8.04 when I install last version of modem driver it doesn't work and my sound disable only .. are there any one has same problem ?
[09:17] <Tarandus> bereta50: a grub console will open in the terminal
[09:17] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: in grub
[09:17] <Tarandus> bereta50: type root (hd0,0)
[09:18] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:18] <Tarandus> bereta50: then setup (hd0)
[09:18] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: hd0,0 is my internal/primary hdd
[09:18] <Tarandus> bereta50: did you see any errors, or did they succeed?
[09:18] <thebitguru> Hi, what user does apache2 run under by default? is it really root?
[09:18] <Tarandus> bereta50: you need to install grub onto the primary hd to get the grub menu
[09:19] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:19] <Tarandus> bereta50: if you install grub onto the external, you still need to press ESC on boot and choose the external drive
[09:19] <mrglinu[X]> no solution I have to come back to 7.10 ?
[09:20] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: but thats what im trying to avoid because then i will need to have my usb druive in when i want to boot windows
[09:20] <linuX|xl00p> Tarandus: I have a question: http://tinyurl.com/622wqq you can see "Playing" in that line.. but how i do that?
[09:20] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:20] <rondine> ciao
[09:21] <rondine> !list
[09:21] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:21] <murlidha1> ikonia: and what would be the command for cmus media player ?
[09:21] <Tarandus> bereta50: ok, then you need to make a small partition on the primary HD, and use that as your grub root disk, or linux /boot partition
[09:21] <coolow> 大家好
[09:21] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: ok i can do that
[09:21] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:21] <mrglinu[X]> in 1227 person not any one has this problem ?
[09:22] <Nelson_Apart> hi coolow
[09:22] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: how big does it need to be
[09:22] <Tarandus> linuX|xl00p: I have no idea :)
[09:22] <Tarandus> bereta50: 50MB will do fine
[09:22] <Nelson_Apart> coolow: 你好:p
[09:22] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:22] <coolow> where are you from?
[09:22] <Tarandus> bereta50: it may be even possible to have the grub files on a Windows partition, but I haven't seen anyone do that
[09:23] <ikonia> murlidha1: no idea
[09:23] <murlidha1> ikonia: i tried using gnome-terminal -e cmus
[09:23] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:23] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:23] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:23] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:23] <FloodBot1> Chro42: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:24] <Chro42> its a simple question guys
[09:24] <ikonia> Chro42: that attitude will not get you a response
[09:24] <ikonia> !patience > Chro42
[09:24] <ikonia> !attitude > Chro42
[09:24] <Chro42> well waiting for some one for hours is not working
[09:25] <Chro42> all i want to do is get this thing installing
[09:25] <ikonia> Chro42: flooding the channel will not work either
[09:25] <Tarandus> !patience > Tarandus
[09:25] <eHome> due to sudden black out. i can still log into ubuntu, but can not do anything, eg no browse dir, no Firefox etc ..
[09:25] <Chro42> seems as though we need to get ON TOPIC in here
[09:25] <Tarandus> !attitude > Tarandus
[09:26] <ikonia> Chro42: we are on topic
[09:26] <CokeNCode> hey guys ... I swapped out my motherboard a while back, and now ubuntu won't load up
[09:26] <Chro42> VISTA
[09:26] <eHome> before i m going to re-install ubuntu, is there any final suggeustion to recover it ?
[09:26] <CokeNCode> any idea how i can fix this ?
[09:26] <ikonia> chordate: what's the problem
[09:26] <Flannel> !doesntwork | Chro42
[09:26] <ckyle> using ubuntu 8.04... have fouled up my "shutdown" button and my system just "freezes" when I press it (I was installing and uninstalling some new themes and a different login manager, which is probably what fouled it up). Anybody know how to get the shutdown button in gnome to be nice and bring up the shutdown options like it did before?
[09:26] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: before grub was on the MBR..... gparted will not let me resise the usb drive partition, why is this
[09:26] <Chro42> RaM
[09:26] <zcat[1]> woohoooo!! Finally I have ubuntu booting from my USB stick.. was missing an mbr.. now why the hell don't they mention that on the mb thread?!!
[09:26] <Chro42> dont think so
[09:26] <Chro42> INSTALL problems I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:26] <Chro42> that specific
[09:27] <Flannel> Chro42: *where* do you get ACPI errors?
[09:27] <Chro42> at install
[09:27] <Flannel> Chro42: Is this before or after the boot menu?
[09:27] <Chro42> i get past the main menu
[09:27] <Chro42> after boot menu
[09:27] <Flannel> Chro42: Alright, have you verified the CDs integrity?
[09:27] <Chro42> like where its supposed to start putting on files
[09:27] <Chro42> yes
[09:27] <Chro42> and using the ALT
[09:28] <Aych> is it possible to be in several rooms at one time? im on irssi?
[09:28] <Tarandus> bereta50: I don't know... I have just bought my first USB enclosure, and haven't got around to doing anything with it
[09:28] <ikonia> Aych: sure is
[09:28] <Chro42> both give the same problem
[09:28] <Flannel> Chro42: have you tried turning acpi off?
[09:28] <Chro42> yes
[09:28] <Tarandus> bereta50: but you need to put the partition into the internal HD
[09:28] <Chro42> f6 twice and turn it off then esc to get back to main menu
[09:28] <Flannel> Chro42: And did that work?  (also, these are the things that should be in your initial question)
[09:29] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: why on the internall
[09:29] <Aych> if i join another chan, im not sure how to toggle back and fourth
[09:29] <tckb> can anybody tell me how to customize  ubiguity
[09:29] <Chro42> no it allowed me to get past the apci=force error
[09:29] <Tarandus> bereta50: the idea was to install grub into the internal HD... you need the external HD if grub has its files there, but you don't if grub has its files on the internal HD
[09:29] <ikonia> chordate: apci=force is no off
[09:29] <ikonia> not
[09:29] <lmartin92> unop: you still here?
[09:30] <Tarandus> bereta50: if you do not install grub onto the internal, you need to press ESC and choose the external every time you want to boot linux
[09:30] <ckyle> the shutdown button in top-right of desktop just causes the screen to freeze when I press it. Can you help fix it?
[09:30] <ckyle> thx
[09:30] <ikonia> ckyle: when it freezes does caps lock light on your keyboard still go on / off if you press caps lock
[09:30] <Tarandus> bereta50: but I need to get some coffee now
[09:30] <tckb> anybody der???
[09:30] <ikonia> tckb: many people
[09:30] <Chro42> First problem sloved on my own turning off APCI because of a error with it Now INSTALL problems are I get a ACPI error so I shut it off now that I get past that I get a flashing line on a blank screen
[09:30] <ikonia> Chro42: how did you shut it off
[09:30] <Tarandus> !attitude > Tarandus
[09:31] <Chro42> opps doubled my initial problem in the question
[09:31] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: will that eaven work at this point? ok thank you so much
[09:31] <lmartin92> ckyle: if it's a usb keyboard, your problem may be related to my usb mouse
[09:31] <ckyle> ikonia - I'll check it out - will have to reboot and come back...
[09:31] <joot> Aych: On my  chat the rooms come up separately on the side with conversation balloons when there is activity
[09:31] <Chro42> on the main menu went to f6 and selected apci=off
[09:31] <bereta50> ﻿Tarandus: i have never had some one help me so much on line
[09:31] <ikonia> Chro42: so when/why did you change it to apci=off ?
[09:31] <tckb> thanx! i want to customize the ubiguity
[09:32] <tckb> can anybody tell me how to do that
[09:32] <Chro42> apci=force message bios error somthing about pre 2000 year
[09:32] <Chro42> i do not need APCI power managment anyway
[09:33] <ikonia> Chro42: how old is this board ?
[09:33] <Iradieh> I found a glitch in ubuntu. When trying to SSH or use SCP to my mac from Ubuntu, I just get back to myself since both my computers go the same username
[09:33] <ckyle> I'm back - yes I can toggle-the Caps-Lock fine when it's frozen... and my IRC was still showing the conversations going on... seemed to have frozen my mouse or something...
[09:33] <lmartin92> I think my ubuntu has a problem with USB (in general, not just mouse); When usb device connected for X (where X can be almost any time from startup) amount of time, the usb device will die. How would one go about fixing this. I encounter it frequently with my usb mouse. It is not an X problem because X is understanding my ps2 mouse, it is not a problem with my mouse's hardware. Does ubuntu reload usb if it dies?
[09:34] <ikonia> Iradieh: what ??? explain that again and show me the command your using
[09:34] <Chro42> Acer ALTOS Pentium dual processor 1995 81 meg ram
[09:34] <ikonia> Chro42: ok - and your trying to run ubuntu 8.04 on it ??
[09:34] <Chro42> SCSI bus on board
[09:34] <Chro42> yes
[09:34] <ikonia> Chro42: that board is too old, its lacking ram
[09:34] <Iradieh> ikonia: Nevermind... it was the DNS. I am using No-ip for DNS. and I got two different accounts and two differents adresses, and yet it still ssh to itself
[09:34] <ikonia> Chro42: you'll need some specific boot options to get it to boot
[09:35] <Chro42> really it was a linux box before
[09:35] <ckyle> ikonia - the caps-lock toggles fine when it's frozen and the IRC still shows new conversation... it just seems to freeze the mouse...
[09:35] <tckb> did any1 worked on Ubiguity before
[09:35] <Iradieh> It works with local IP
[09:35] <ikonia> cyzie: ok - so ubuntu stays alive
[09:35] <ikonia> Chro42: each new release moves forward and certain features/functions will be dropped
[09:35] <Chro42> so what toggles will work
[09:36] <ikonia> cyzie: can you use for example the arrow keys, or the alt keys to navigate around ?
[09:36] <ikonia> Chro42: what ?
[09:37] <Chro42> what toggles would be needed to get it to work
[09:37] <ikonia> Chro42: bottom line is, you don't have enough ram / new enough system to meet the minimum support requirements to run ubuntu 8.04
[09:38] <Chro42> oh wish linux version would have a Hardware Page
[09:38] <ckyle> is it safe to modify /etc/sudoers so I don't supply a password every time I sudo? or would that be stupid?
[09:38] <ikonia> Chro42: it does
[09:38] <Chro42> I have gotten several so far and this looked the most promising
[09:38] <Flannel> ckyle: Why do you want to not use a password?
[09:38] <ckyle> lazy
[09:38] <ikonia> Chro42: it also has a minimum system requirements on the main site if you look
[09:38] <Flannel> ckyle: Then yes, that would be stupid.
[09:39] <Flannel> ckyle: You'll find in a week or so, after you're done tweaking, you won't use sudo much
[09:39] <Chro42> I have a hp9000 that has a PA RISC cant get this to load on either
[09:39] <linuX|xl00p> someone know where i can get the S2 High End XMMS skin?
[09:39] <bullgard4> ikonia: The nvram module is provided by Ubuntu; it is part of the Ubuntu distribution.
[09:39] <ikonia> Chro42: there is no risk port
[09:39] <ikonia> risc port
[09:39] <ckyle> makes sense - better to develop good habits early on
[09:39] <ikonia> bullgard4: no it's not, it's a kernel module, provided by the kernel. Nothing to do with ubuntu
[09:39] <Chro42> and RISC is better then Intel needs less to do more processing
[09:39] <ckyle> or i'll be kicking myself later
[09:39] <ikonia> Chro42: don't care, thats not on topic for this support channel
[09:40] <Chro42> RISC Port is needed for this distro
[09:40] <ikonia> Chro42: please stop
[09:40] <wols> Chro42: debian has a version that runs on PA RISC
[09:40] <ikonia> Chro42: it is not on topic for this channel
[09:40] <linuX|xl00p> someone know where i can get the S2 High End XMMS skin?
[09:40] <Guest98566> a co takhle cesky?
[09:40] <tsudot> if i want an application to start on startup, should i include its path in /etc/rc.local ?
[09:41] <ikonia> linuX|xl00p: google for it
[09:41] <Chro42> wols: really do u have a link
[09:41] <linuX|xl00p> ikonia: i did
[09:41] <ckyle> cesky? nyet?
[09:41] <bullgard4> ikonia: Every Ubuntu distribution is delivered with a kernel. Without a kernel a Ubuntu distribution would not function.
[09:41] <ikonia> tsudot: including a path is always a safe way to be
[09:41] <joot> !ru
[09:41] <linuX|xl00p> ikonia:  no found on google ..
[09:41] <wols> Chro42: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r4a/hppa/iso-cd/
[09:41] <tsudot> ikonia: ok
[09:42] <ikonia> bullgard4: no-one says it doesn't but your asking for information about a kernel module in general what it does etc, thats nothing to do with ubuntu. Ubuntu is not your personal guide to "linux" ubuntu is for ubuntu support requests, not generic linux help/questions
[09:42] <ikonia> linuX|xl00p: it's not #ubuntu's job to provide skin finding functions
[09:42] <Chro42> Thanks
[09:42] <linuX|xl00p> ikonia:  i was asking if someone have it.
[09:42] <zcat[1]> I'd suggest gnome-look.org for any kind of skin or theme ...
[09:43] <linuX|xl00p> ikonia: but you started with googleing.
[09:43] <zcat[1]> they seem to have lots of just about everything
[09:43] <wols> ikonia: providing sock finding functions would be really awesome tho
[09:43] <ikonia> zcat[1]: not aware of xmms skins on there
[09:43] <ikonia> wols: I'll request it
[09:43] <lmartin92> (my question was not generic if that is why you didn't pay attention to it (or maybe it just wasn't noticed, not trying to offend anyone), it is Ubuntu Specific (custom compiled Gentoo always works))
[09:43] <wols> ikonia: thanks. will be forever grateful
[09:44] <zcat[1]> ahhh.. xmms skins are compatable with winamp skins I think...
[09:44] <Flannel> lmartin92: You might have better luck filing a bug about it.
[09:44] <tzd> can someone please tell me a good linuxprogram for adding/embedding .srt files into avi files?
[09:44] <Tarandus> lmartin92: does dmesg tell you anything interesting when it dies?
[09:44] <lmartin92> wait a sec
[09:44] <wols> lmartin92: it sounds like a kernel bug
[09:44] <Tarandus> lmartin92: also, does disconnecting and reconnecting the mouse help when it dies?
[09:45] <lmartin92> Tarandus: reconnecting fails (unless it worked the second before)
[09:46] <lmartin92> Tarandus: I'm not using a usb  mouse right now because it fails too much and I have a ps2 one
[09:46] <Tarandus> lmartin92: and you need to reboot the machine to have the USB mouse working again?
[09:46] <lmartin92> every time
[09:46] <blitz> lmartin92, if you are running with a power supply that  is almost topped out on wattage it can cause power isuues with usb devices that exactly mimic your situation
[09:46] <zcat[1]> hmmmm, making progress. the 'persistent' usb boot drops me into busybox. also I want two partitions, the first will be ntfs with windows floss and the second/third will be a USB ubuntu.
[09:46] <lmartin92> blitz: this works fine on Gentoo
[09:47] <lmartin92> blitz: can't be a usb power outage
[09:47] <zcat[1]> But I've made progress .. an hour ago it was not booting at all..!
[09:47] <blitz> lmartin92, ok
[09:47] <lmartin92> is there a way to detect power though (maybe ubuntu uses more power?)
[09:47] <Tarandus> no
[09:48] <Tarandus> lmartin92: unless you try running some stress tests and see if you can cause it to fail that way
[09:48] <blitz> lmartin92, I can reproduce it by plugging in more devices without an externally powered usb hub.. some devices will shut off or screw up
[09:48] <Tarandus> lmartin92: cpuburn, or just running many instances of glxgears or yes
[09:48] <lmartin92> Tarandus: the best way to make my mouse fail is to twirl it around about 600 times
[09:49] <zcat[1]> hey, curious thing with my laptop.. If I plug in a USB mouse after it's already powered up, it doesn't seem to see it. The mouse lights up though, and any other USB device is just fine this way. And if I use my USB PC card the mouse is fine with that. Anybody got any insight in this?
[09:50] <blitz> zcat[1], wireless mouse?
[09:50] <Tarandus> zcat[1]: does the mouse work with any other machine or system?
[09:50] <lmartin92> I have 2 or 3 usb interfaces (each are on different connectors to the mb), one is on a sd card thing, the other is about 2 to 3 front side usb ports to the usb mb connector (includes firewire ports too), and the other is usb that is directly on mb; all 3 fail all times
[09:50] <zcat[1]> no, plain old USB .. and more than one, any mouse at all behaves this way.
[09:50] <bob> who
[09:51] <zcat[1]> and they all work fines if I boot with the mouse plugged in, even if I later remove it and plug in a different mouse I think..
[09:51] <zcat[1]> weird, huh?
[09:51] <Iradieh> http://smacbook.zapto.org:8080/CDC4F/Picture_3.png
[09:52] <lmartin92> blitz: when mouse fails, it still has power (the laser still on)
[09:53] <zcat[1]> kinda sucks that I can't plug in a usb mouse and have it work, but it's hardly a show-stopper
[09:53] <blitz> lmartin92, I can only suggest you invest in an externally powered hub if you find out its a power issue.. check your logs when the mouse dies off and see if you notice anything
[09:53] <lmartin92> ok
[09:53] <blitz> lmartin92, then it isnt  power issue
[09:53] <lmartin92> I thought it wasn't
[09:53] <blitz> when my usb devices fail they lose power too
[09:54] <Twinity> hi there
[09:54] <zcat[1]> ok this is weird. my saitek mouse stays lit but won't work. the logitech one blinks just a tiny bit and won't work. ;)
[09:54] <lmartin92> blitz: everytime I do this it goes from working like 2 hours, then reboot, 1 hour, next 30 min, next fails at startup; but then it works again on resetting xorg.conf
[09:55] <blitz> lmartin92, long shot, but maybe its a bad mouse?
[09:55] <havocstorm> hello?
[09:55] <havocstorm> anyone here?
[09:55] <blitz> lmartin92, reproducible with a different mouse would be a good test
[09:55] <lmartin92> blitz: tried 2 different usb mice
[09:55] <blitz> yes theres 1229 peopl here.
[09:55] <blitz> lmartin92, whats the log say?
[09:55] <havocstorm> hey guys
[09:56] <zcat[1]> hmmmm.. I'm gonna try this from the live CD cos it used to work. I wonder if it's an xorg bug?
[09:56] <Twinity> hi havoc
[09:56] <havocstorm> The Ubuntu logo and loading bar suddenly disspeared for me
[09:56] <havocstorm> any idea how to get it back?
[09:56] <lmartin92> blitz: I'm not using usb right now, I'm using ps2 because it's hard not to use mouse when you're used to it (and keyboard mouse fails to satisfy)
[09:57] <lmartin92> I can acess log from yesterday when I used usb though, so let me see
[09:57] <blitz> lmartin92, I found that a conky setup with syslog data helps greatly when you have a hardware issue, ok
[09:58] <lmartin92> blitz: ok...... I usually don't play around with logs unless I suspect someone having used my computer
[09:58] <coolow> there are many log file of virtualbox in my user directory .What should I do?
[09:59] <blitz> lmartin92, if something is connected, disconnected, segfaults or anything itll be in the log, its a great tool for fixing issues like this
[09:59] <lmartin92> blitz: the last 4 messages say: Aug 31 03:54:54 lmartin92-dev kernel: [ 6037.431345] usb 2-6: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7; the 7 can be replaced with me plugging in 1000's of times
[09:59] <lmartin92> blitz: I see that in the log
[10:00] <Tarandus> how do I switch from Swfdec to Gnash? do I just uninstall Swfdec and let firefox ask again which one to install?
[10:00] <blitz> lmartin92, so its showing each time you reconnected, but its not disconnecting?
[10:00] <lmartin92> blitz: wait a sec, that's wrong log......
[10:00] <yme> Hi, I've got a question about Samba shares with Windows. If I mount a Windows share folder on my system, say under /home/me/windows, if I backup /home/me, will all files in the Windows share be backed up as well?
[10:01] <lmartin92> blitz: It'll take me a while to find correct message
[10:01] <Twinity> yme, try it? :)
[10:01] <yme> Twinity, it's just few gigs of data. I'd prefer not to :-)
[10:01] <blitz> lmartin92, your ps2 mouse has no issues right?
[10:01] <wols> yme: yes
[10:02] <Twinity> yme, then mount a smaller dir ^^ but it should backup anything
[10:02] <coolow> there are many log files of virtualbox in my home directory .What should I do?
[10:02] <Surtsey> Has anyone else's rxvt-unicode been unable to set a background pixmap?  Mine's been broken since I updated to Ubuntu8.
[10:03] <yme> wols, Twinity, this is what I would not like, also because my Windows system is not up all the time (actually is down most of the time, hehe). So I thought I'd put the share under /mnt/windows. Is that a secure location?
[10:03] <blitz> lmartin92, goto System -> administration -> System log -- scroll to the bottom of the messages kernel, plug in the usb device as well without disconnecting the ps2, and attempt to fail it if you can
[10:03] <blitz> oops *messages log
[10:03] <Twinity> yme, better then your home-directory ;)
[10:03] <yme> Twinity, wols, thanks.
[10:05] <lmartin92> blitz: dang it, the last time my mouse failed (yesterday, was at shutdown)
[10:05] <lmartin92> blitz: ok
[10:05] <rawbeef> Can anyone help me with getting a Atheros AR5212 wireless card working?
[10:06] <rawbeef> I can detect networks, but I can't connect to them
[10:06] <lmartin92> blitz: fails on plugin
[10:06] <Rakeer> Is there a way to see a progress indicator when copying and transferring files e.g. from thumbdrive to desktop?
[10:06] <lmartin92> blitz: has power, the laser is on at bottom
[10:06] <blitz> lmartin92,  whats the fail message?
[10:06] <coolow> "You can workaround this by making sure you have VBOX_LOG_DEST=nofile in your environment variables. "  where can i find the ﻿environment variables?
[10:07] <blitz> Rakeer, there should be one on default using gnome and nautilus
[10:07] <Twinity> coolow, env ^^
[10:07] <Rakeer> blitz: I am using XUbuntu xfce
[10:08] <blitz> Rakeer, im not sure Thunar supports it :/
[10:08] <coolow> Twinity,my english is poor .more information
[10:08] <lmartin92> blitz: the kern.log fail message is: device descriptor read/64, error -110 and device not accepting address (INSERT NUMBER up to 11), error -110
[10:08] <Twinity> coolow, the command is "env" ^^
[10:09] <scuser> hi all, I was building lustre from sources and the following error occured "No rule to make target '../kernel_patches/lustre-1.6.4.2/ldiskfs-' needed by 'sources' "
[10:09] <lmartin92> only thing saving me is keyboard mouse and alt+tab
[10:09] <scuser> any help ?
[10:09] <rawbeef> Any help?
[10:09] <Rakeer> Oh well.
[10:09] <coolow> Twinity,i see ,thanks
[10:09] <sebrock> howcome I can set ??++_``=`==```
[10:09] <sebrock> howcome I can set `hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda` in console but nothing happens with the same line in rc.local????
[10:09] <blitz> lmartin92, weird.. where it says " (INSERT NUMBER up to 11)" it should be showing you the attempted address
[10:09] <lmartin92> blitz: I'm going to try unplugging usb and putting in ps2 mouse
[10:10] <lmartin92> blitz: I was telling you it tried 11 addresses
[10:10] <blitz> lmartin92, ah so it was a repeated message
[10:10] <ckyle> Here's how I fixed my shutdown-button from causing a freeze...  removed the ~/autostart folder... now the shutdown button in the panel brings up the menu of shutdown options... thank god... that was annoying.
[10:10] <lmartin92> blitz: yes, and replug ps2 mouse works for some odd reason (was expected to fail)
[10:11] <lmartin92> blitz: I've also seen that message I gave you before (when I was trouble shooting on my own)
[10:11] <blitz> lmartin92, well -110 as far as I know is a general error, there is some communication issue between the ubuntu kernel and your USB device
[10:11] <lmartin92> blitz: does it sound like my mouse is having problem
[10:11] <blitz> lmartin92, well you said you tried 2 mice?
[10:12] <lmartin92> blitz: I tried 2 mice about a day ago, not today, same failure (did not record log error)
[10:12] <ekow> ok after not being able to install xp on it's own partition i completely repartitioned my entire hd, wiping it clear of ubuntu and formatting it to NTFS, however i am still getting the error "unknown disk" when i try to install xp... blitz, i know you already helped me out earlier, so does anyone else know how to fix this? otherwise my laptop is a brick until i reinstall ubuntu...
[10:13] <blitz> lmartin92, if 2 mice give you that same error, then its gotta be something with the kernel or your actual usb port
[10:13] <lmartin92> well, it's still detecting usb, so usb is working; this works same on multiple usb ports
[10:14] <blitz> lmartin92, you got any other usb devices? like keybords, a camera, etc
[10:14] <lmartin92> (camera...... phone, that's about it)
[10:14] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: need help on gimp, every time gimp image editor started there's 2 pannel, the gimp panel, and the other one. i accidently close the other on and i cant show it up. can u tell me how
[10:14] <blitz> mamoru_new_here, there should be a "window" menu or the like.. lemme check it out
[10:15] <sebrock> how can I automaticly set hdparm -B to 254??
[10:15] <lmartin92> blitz: the error read descriptor error/64 is sometimes a delayed message (happens several seconds after recognition)
[10:15] <sebrock> will not work in rc.lcoal
[10:15] <lmartin92> blitz: trying phone (someone else has my camera :-( )
[10:16] <blitz> mamoru_new_here, i started gimp, and only had the one panel.
[10:16] <mamoru_new_here> blitz: the layer thingie panel the one i missing i guess
[10:16] <blitz> mamoru_new_here, once you open a new file or a graphic you should have the other window
[10:16] <blitz> mamoru_new_here, oh a layers panel? lemme see
[10:17] <Twinity> mamoru_new_here, press ctrl+l when you've opened a image...
[10:18] <Nelson_Apart> How to format /dev/sdb1 to W95 FAT32?
[10:18] <lmartin92> blitz: phone usb work like charm, not like dang windows connecting and disconnecting
[10:18] <Nelson_Apart> How to format a USB flash drive (/dev/sdb1) to W95 FAT32?
[10:18] <Tarandus> http://hightechsorcery.com/2008/05/flash-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-gnash-vs-swfdec
[10:18] <lmartin92> blitz: now all you need to do is tell me how to use phone as mouse (joking)
[10:18] <Tarandus> any agreements or disagreements with the link?
[10:18] <mamoru_new_here> wait a sec
[10:18] <Nelson_Apart> How to format a USB flash drive (/dev/sdb1) to W95 FAT32?
[10:18] <blitz> lmartin92, actually possible with a hacked iphone :)
[10:19] <blitz> lmartin92, man I got nuthin left for your mouse issue
[10:19] <lmartin92> blitz: (too bad this is moto rokr z6 then)
[10:19] <supermoi> hi everyone. Have a pb with ./configure on debian lenny on eeepc. When i lauch it, it says me "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory" how can i solve it ?
[10:19] <mindrape> blitz - yes, but can your hacked iPhone do this -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
[10:19] <Tarandus> Nelson_Apart: mkfs -t fat32 /dev/sdb1
[10:19] <frith> hi, powersaved is only throttling my opteron form 2.2 to 1.8, is there anyway to go even slower?
[10:19] <Tarandus> Nelson_Apart: or something like that, not sure if the correct parameter fat32
[10:20] <lmartin92> blitz: do you think I need a new mouse? where my old mouse comes from like 2003 (usb)
[10:20] <Tarandus> Nelson_Apart: no, it is vfat
[10:20] <Nelson_Apart> Tarandus: mkfs [-V] [-t fstype] [fs-options] device [size]
[10:20] <blitz> lmartin92, if another usb mouse would work I could reccomend that
[10:20] <Tarandus> Nelson_Apart: type man mkfs.vfat and see what it tells you
[10:21] <lmartin92> blitz: I'll look into buying a new one (and return it if I find it incompatible with my system (or ebay it, whichever will make me richer))
[10:21] <blitz> mamoru_new_here, mam I havent used gim in a while I dont see a layers box like photoshop but there is a layers menu above the graphic window
[10:21] <deakillo> hello, whats the command for terminal?
[10:21] <blitz> brb
[10:22] <Tarandus> Nelson_Apart: putting -F 32 into the options seems to be the key to FAT32
[10:22] <deakillo> i mean.. i want to add a new launcher.. for terminal in my panel.. what do i write as 'command'?
[10:22] <ekow> can anybody pleease help me with this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5697885#post5697885
[10:22] <fragilematter> deakillo generally xterm, or gnome-terminal
[10:22] <fragilematter> konsole for kde
[10:22] <Nelson_Apart> Tarandus: mkfs.vfat -F 32 -n NAME /dev/sdb1 ??
[10:22] <mamoru_new_here> blitz and  twinity: the panel i'm missing is "Layers, Channels, Paths, Undo | FG/BG, Brushes, Patterns, Gradients"
[10:23] <Twinity> mamoru_new_here, tried ctrl+l?
[10:23] <Tarandus> Nelson_Apart: I guess so
[10:23] <Tarandus> Nelson_Apart: see what it does
[10:23] <Nelson_Apart> Tarandus: ok let me try
[10:23] <mamoru_new_here> twinity: yes only layer pannel show up
[10:23] <Tarandus> Nelson_Apart: worst that will happen is that you lose the contents of /dev/sdb1
[10:23] <shukty> hi how can i set to a samba user kinda of permissions .. i mean ... x can see but cannot write and b can see and write ? tnx to all
[10:23] <Nelson_Apart> Tarandus: which is what i expecting :p
[10:23] <mamoru_new_here> twinity: the one i sat theres 8 tabs pannel
[10:24] <havocstorm> hey guys
[10:24] <havocstorm> did a new update remove the boot splash screen?
[10:24] <deakillo> fragilematter: hello for the information.. btw, i want to add some others apps to my panel. is there a way to know which terminal every app use? or there is a guide or anything?
[10:24] <Twinity> mamoru_new_here, then check the menulist in the image window
[10:25] <mamoru_new_here> twinity: okay thx
[10:25] <fragilematter> deakillo you could use the menu editor to see what commands run which apps
[10:26] <Nelson_Apart> Tarandus:  it works :p
[10:26] <fragilematter> deakillo if not, start the app then do a ps -A in a console and search for your app there... it's name is the the command you have to run
[10:27] <lmartin92> blitz: it recognizes my gateway mouse as logitech, maybe the problem?
[10:29] <blekos> hello, could you tell me how i can change the cpu policy? (i'm a newcomer from KDE where there was a relevant tool)
[10:29] <havocstorm> hey guys
[10:30] <blitz> lmartin92, i dunno that doesnt sound like a big issue
[10:30] <deakillo> fragilematter: its not working. i cant see there writer (open office) which the app i want to put in the panel
[10:30] <havocstorm> I get a permission denied when I try to move a file
[10:30] <havocstorm> how do I get past that
[10:30] <fragilematter> try oowriter
[10:30] <blitz> havocstorm, use sudo or gksudo, depending on what youre doing
[10:31] <mnemo> how can I see the size-on-disk for each installed package in ubuntu?? i mean like how windows "add/remove programs" shows it sort of...
[10:31] <lmartin92> blitz: logitech I think uses different mouse protocol than "generic"
[10:31] <wols> mnemo: apt-cache show <package>
[10:32] <grasspipe> aw
[10:32] <wols> !permissions | havocstorm
[10:32] <mnemo> wols: but I want to see a list of all packages, sorted by size... because I need to remove some stuff to free disk space
[10:32] <blitz> lmartin92, ok another long shot, but what you got in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf under mouse?
[10:32] <blekos> hello, could you tell me how i can change the cpu policy?
[10:32] <wols> mnemo: not doable. stuff like X or OO or gnome are consisting of many many packages
[10:33] <lmartin92> blitz: ok, just a sec
[10:33] <mnemo> wols: but then I should be able to see the total size for the meta package?
[10:33] <grasspipe> wow
[10:33] <wols> mnemo: a meta package has 10kB or so
[10:34] <blekos> is there any way i can change the cpu policy [dynamic, powersave etc]?
[10:34] <mnemo> wols: yeah but you know what I mean, I want to see total size free'd if I remove that package (including dependencies)
[10:34] <lmartin92> Section "InputDevice" Identifier  "Mouse0" Driver      "mouse" Option      "Protocol" "auto" Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" End Section
[10:35] <killaz> hi there...
[10:35] <killaz> did the update of the linux-headers 2.6.24-19 give anyone any troubles?
[10:35] <mnemo> wols: given the current design of the package management system, it's pretty hard to do, but it's a very much valid use case to be able to find out what to uninstall to free some disk space
[10:35] <blitz> lmartin92, I can give you a more generic mouse section if you wanna make a backup and give it a shot
[10:36] <lmartin92> blitz: sounds super great (can't be worse than what it is atm)
[10:36] <blitz>  lmartin92  ok ill open a private window
[10:37] <wols> mnemo: then do it on your own if you think you can do it
[10:37] <scuser> hi all, I was building lustre from sources but the following error occurred: No rule to make target '../kernel_patches/lustre-1.6.4.2/ldiskfs-' needed by 'sources' . any help ?
[10:38] <murlidhar> how to add my library to mpd ?
[10:38] <rnd_> hello
[10:39] <blitz> mnemo, have you tried to use the disk-usage-analyzer?
[10:39] <msk> i want Gnome themes....
[10:39] <rnd_> i have an archiv file .tar.gz. If I do uncompressing it, it works for some time, there is a new folder and files are created in it. But than there is a error and it removes the new folder suddently. Can I get out all the files that are not damaged?
[10:39] <msk> where can i get it ?
[10:40] <blitz> rnd_, try extracting the files one at a time depending on what you need
[10:40] <crash5override> hi
[10:40] <rnd_> blitz, I cant open it with the archivmanager
[10:40] <crash5override> just seein if this works
[10:41] <blitz> rnd_, sounds like a corrupt file
[10:41] <blitz> crash5override, it does.
[10:41] <murlidhar> how to add my library to mpd ?
[10:42] <mnemo> blitz: yeah but it shows disk usage per file/folder which is useful for deleting files not programs... most linux programs seems to be spread out all over the system in /usr/bin, /usr/lib and whatnot so it's impossible to understand what program takes up much space by using the disk analyzer (which is otherwise a great tool for deleting big files etc ofc)
[10:42] <rnd_> blitz, yes - crc -error. But there are many good files in it. I can see it in the folder that is deleted suddently after the error. message.
[10:42] <crash5override> thanks im soo new to this linus and irc but i finally found out how to install a program
[10:43] <murlidhar> rnd_: google i think u can still extract even though it is damaged . by using -k operator. i am not sure . google it .
[10:43] <blitz> rnd_, is it corrupt from where you got it and impossible to get a non-corrupt download or something?
[10:44] <murlidhar> how to add my music library to mpd ?
[10:45] <blitz> mnemo, I think package managers lack that information because on average the space consumed by packages and metapackages is so small most people don't really need to know
[10:45] <blitz> mnemo, if you are using a 8gb hd or something tho I understand
[10:46] <blitz> mnemo, would be good if trying to run on a flash stick for example
[10:48] <blekos> could you tell me if there is a gui tool for changing cpu policy?
[10:50] <qmunke> anyone able to help with grub issues? getting an error 15 and would appreciate some assistance walking through configuring fstab and menu.lst and whatever else it is causing the issue
[10:50] <fire^fox> dfoes someone know about new gdm ? multiface
[10:51] <ikonia> qmunke: fstab is nothing to do with grub
[10:51] <Jackiz> hello
[10:51] <Jackiz> i get errors
[10:52] <Jackiz> i cant update.. :(
[10:52] <Jackiz> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:52] <Jackiz> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[10:52] <FloodBot1> Jackiz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <hrehf> last night my xserver crashed, and now it's always restarting one session and the 'explorer' like startmenu/task bar etc isn't starting... and i have no idea what to google for :/ any hints?
[10:52] <blitz> Jackiz, did you run dpkg --configure -a
[10:52] <Jackiz> i dont understand, what is that. blitz ?
[10:52] <Jackiz> shall i write that in the CMD thing ?
[10:52] <Vikketorr> How do I restart X?
[10:52] <blitz> Jackiz, the error message is telling you what to run to fix the problem
[10:53] <Jackiz> blitz: how do i run that then ?
[10:53] <blitz> Jackiz, open your terminal and type "sudo dpkg --configure -a" without the quotes
[10:53] <qmunke> following a bug report in launchpad (159333), i tried to follow the advice of comparing /etc/fstab with /boot/grub/device.map, but I don't seem to be able to solve the issue
[10:53] <Vikketorr> The easiest way
[10:53] <Jackiz> thanks
[10:53] <php6th> Help, how to install python modules? i have this error ImportError: No module named feedparser
[10:54] <ikonia> qmunke: grub error 15 is normally down to grub being setup against the wrong partition
[10:54] <ikonia> qmunke: how many disks do you have in your system ?
[10:54] <Jackiz> blitz: it works. you are the best !
[10:54] <blitz> Jackiz, np :)
[10:55] <Guest36040> is dere any way i can sync my thinderbird mails with my windows thunderbird mails
[10:55] <ikonia> Guest36040: use imap
[10:55] <qmunke> ikonia: i had three physical drives, two IDE one SATA. I've disconnected the two physical IDEs since installing. in the bios this drive shows up as third ide master even when the others are disconnected (this drive has no jumpers set)
[10:55] <Guest36040> imap?
[10:56] <avengery> hiii all
[10:56] <ikonia> qmunke: connecting / disconnecting drives trying to solve a grub problem is not a good idea as it will/can change the device order
[10:56] <avengery> anybody here
[10:56] <ikonia> Guest36040: yes, imap will allow you to keep your messages on the server so no matter what OS/machine your on your mail folders are in sync
[10:56] <ikonia> avengery: over a 1000 people
[10:56] <qmunke> ikonia: yeah just ran fdisk and realised this, now read as sda instead of sdc
[10:56] <Guest36040> how may i get that imap
[10:56] <ikonia> qmunke: I suggest you put your disks in how you want them - then start debugging
[10:57] <ikonia> Guest36040: check your mail server supports imap
[10:57] <ikonia> Guest36040: contact the person who runs your mail server
[10:57] <avengery> is there any linux prog for cell phone like nokia supporting bluetooth ?
[10:57] <ikonia> avengery: gnokii
[10:57] <mnemo> blitz: im dual booting so I got 50GB for linux... and since I've started to use linux way more than windows I also got a lot of photos etc stored on the linux partition... while disk analyzer can tell me I got a lot of photos I dont want to delete my photos of course... while learning linux I've also been install A LOT of different programs for different things just to find out what is the best drawing program, what is the best browser etc... so now I h
[10:57] <qmunke> ikonia: i'm good with a single disk for now, would you recommend just re-installing rather than attempting to configure manually?
[10:58] <avengery> ok thanks
[10:58] <ikonia> qmunke: no - I'd strongly suggesst put your disks in - then fix it, as soon as you put disks in a a later date you'll have issues
[10:58] <compengi> can postfix receive emails? if yes, how do i read them
[10:58] <ikonia> compengi: yes, postfix is a mail server
[10:58] <ikonia> compengi: how you read them will depend on what delivery agent you use
[10:59] <Jackiz> is there any VNC server application for ubuntu ?
[10:59] <ikonia> Jackiz: vnc
[10:59] <lmartin92> blitz: it's recognized as a USB optical mouse now, works, now waiting for failure
[10:59] <Jackiz> ikonia: where can i get it
[10:59] <ikonia> Jackiz: the ubuntu repos - same as all ubuntu packaged software
[10:59] <qmunke> ikonia: i don't need the other disks and won't be adding any in future, this is a short/medium term install and the exisitng disk will be more than enough to be going on with.
[10:59] <compengi> ikonia, i use it corrently on my website to send automated emails
[10:59] <Jackiz> ok, i will look again. could not fins it first time :s
[11:00] <ikonia> qmunke: if you've not messed with / installed anything on your system, then it's quicker/easier/safer to just re-install
[11:00] <ikonia> compengi: sending mails and reciving mails are two different things
[11:00] <qmunke> ikonia: okay, will do , thanks!
[11:00] <blitz> mnemo, because linux has no issues really with storing files on a fat32 or ntfs, you dont even need so large a partition really.  I store everything on a 500gb ntfs drive and while ubuntu is my main OS, the partition I use for it is less than 20gb
[11:00] <ikonia> qmunke: if you have you ubuntu install setup as you want, then we can debug it so you don't have to install
[11:00] <blitz> lmartin92, well hopefully we fixed it
[11:01] <blitz> mnemo, of course its up to you where you store everything
[11:01] <rnd_> blitz, there was a tool called "zipper" in the ubuntu paketmanager. It was able to decompress it without errors.
[11:01] <lmartin92> blitz: xorg.conf had to be reset to a default at bootup generated one (for some reason it won't accept hand written ones?); this one has no mouse definitions whatsoever
[11:01] <blitz> rnd_, sweet good to know
[11:01] <compengi> ikonia, i know. in configuration i set it to default and automated sending mails worked on my website. i have no idea what i need to configure to make it receive
[11:01] <qmunke> ikonia: i've just done a standard install and am currently running via the livecd, if you could help debug would be appreciated
[11:02] <blitz> lmartin92, you know there is a Xorg log file, if it fails again check there too for any messages
[11:02] <ikonia> qmunke: have you changed anything on your install yet ?
[11:02] <ikonia> !postfix > compengi
[11:03] <lmartin92> blitz: yes, I checked it a couple times (under another's recomendation)
[11:04] <lmartin92> blitz: This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. top of my xorg log says that
[11:04] <qmunke> ikonia: i've fiddled around with fstab and menu.lst, but as you've pointed out by removing the disks I think i've knacked my fstab - currently the entries all refer to sdc which has now become sda
[11:05] <blitz> lmartin92, yeah something happened a while back with them I read about.. forgot what it was tho
[11:05] <ikonia> qmunke: that it will be quicker / easier to just re-install,
[11:05] <qmunke> ikonia: yeah okay, that's what i thought. thanks for the advice
[11:05] <lmartin92> ok
[11:06] <mnemo> blitz: yeah that would work I guess... just now, when inspecting my vista partition, I also noticed that my plain vista that came with the computer (I never installed anything on it) takes up 53GB of disk...!!  wow, maybe I'll just nuke my windows partition instead and use a VM for internet banking because that the only thing I need to use vista for ;>
[11:07] <blitz> mnemo, personally I would want to use linux for banking, but you may have a weird bank or something :p
[11:08] <blitz> mnemo, much less of a chance your computer broadcasts your bank login info to someone
[11:08] <lmartin92> are there any 64 bit virtual machines (the virtual machine is 64 bit linux executable, not OS for VM is 64 bit)
[11:08] <avengery> after i hav installed a program i didnt find it in my menu how can i luanch programms fro
[11:09] <avengery> m terminla can u give me the code
[11:09] <blitz> avengery, what program
[11:09] <jonhnash> writer the name and lre
[11:09] <Sa[i]nT> !ot
[11:09] <jonhnash> put into
[11:09] <avengery> any program like gnokii foe examble
[11:10] <avengery> i mean the code to luanch programms in terminal shel
[11:10] <avengery> shel code
[11:10] <blitz> avengery, yeah each program differes greatly though
[11:10] <avengery> mmm
[11:11] <Jackiz> can i run ubuuntu from a USB hard drive ?
[11:11] <frith> Jackiz, yes
[11:11] <Jackiz> frith: awsome !
[11:11] <blitz> avengery, wait, do you want the button you press to open a terminal as and run the command within it? is that what you were asking?
[11:11] <frith> well ubuntu can run from a usb hdd, but can you make it do that is the bigger question
[11:11] <Jackiz> frith: so i can boot that hard drive in school to, and then do whatever i want to ?
[11:11] <Jackiz> in school
[11:12] <frith> Jackiz, if you are smart enough
[11:12] <Jackiz> frith: that sounds nice.
[11:12] <blitz> Jackiz, make sure to get permission :P
[11:12] <Jackiz> frith: maybe something to try out later ^^,
[11:12] <jonhnash> but you need into the bios to chage boot
[11:12] <jonhnash> the school maybe have password in bios
[11:12] <SpComb> hi, I'm having an issue where dpkg configuring my locales is hanging - I ran into this while doing an upgrade from 7.10 -> 8.04. Basically, I've been able to trace it down to /usr/lib/locale/en_AU.utf8 hanging, such that any process that tries to read from it goes into an unkillable state
[11:12] <frith> if i ran a school network i would password all the bios's
[11:13] <blitz> Jackiz, the computer also has to be capable of USB boot, which is common but not guaranteed
[11:13] <jonhnash> but you can open the cpu  and take the battery and the password wiill erase
[11:13] <SpComb> http://pb.paivola.fi/834 <-- there's some ps output, http://pb.paivola.fi/835 <-- there's some sys-req kernel stack traces...
[11:13] <avengery> blitz ya that what i meant what is the code to run programms
[11:13] <avengery> from terminal
[11:13] <bach> Wonder if someone can help, I have an old machine which has xubuntu install I can't remember the spec on the machine.  I can't seem to find an option to display the spec on the machine ??
[11:13] <frith> yes and you can also get expelled for that
[11:14] <blitz> Jackiz, what I would reccomend which is more likely to work on all systems would be to have a livecd as well as a usb stick
[11:14] <Jackiz> blitz: im in sweden. our school networks are very very easy to "hack". so i think they dont have any pass on the boot order settings
[11:14] <ikonia> Jackiz: that doesn't mean it won't be allowed, talk to your teacher
[11:14] <frith> Jackiz, my advise would be to use debootstrap and grub the flash
[11:14] <jonhnash> why are easy ?>?
[11:14] <Jackiz> blitz: yes, but i have to reboot my computer now. updates ! :-)
[11:14] <Jackiz> cya
[11:15] <blitz> avengery, when you create the launcher, change the pulldown from "application" to "Application in Terminal"
[11:15] <avengery> got it
[11:15] <avengery> thanks
[11:15] <blitz> avengery, np
[11:15] <blitz> lmartin92, still working?
[11:15] <jonhnash> what want do with this live ubuntu in school?
[11:16] <lmartin92> blitz: yes :-)
[11:16] <bach> help
[11:16] <blitz> lmartin92, awesome :)
[11:16] <lmartin92> blitz: I think this is the final fix, thanks so much for your help
[11:16] <bach> JOIN #xubuntu
[11:16] <blitz> jonhnash, it would give you access to programs like the gimp that would not be available guaranteed on a school copmuter
[11:17] <frith> backporting when hung over is so much fun
[11:17] <wimpie> Hello guys, anyone know if you can install Microsoft Office on Ubuntu I think I need it for school or is there a Ubuntu program where you can open .doc ?
[11:17] <ikonia> wimpie: openoffice
[11:17] <ChrisMorgan> OpenOffice.org
[11:17] <bach> wimpie: OpenOffice
[11:17] <blitz> wimpie, openoffice should already be installed
[11:17] <wimpie> k
[11:17] <mnemo> wimpie: OpenOffice is installed by default in ubuntu and it can read/write .doc files pretty well
[11:17] <ikonia> wimpie: or use wine to run office under ubuntu
[11:18] <jonhnash> ok
[11:18] <wimpie> Thanks guys will try to do it with OpenOffice then :)
[11:18] <Guest24778> hello people hows it going
[11:18] <jonhnash> use open office
[11:18] <jonhnash> to open .doc
[11:19] <ikonia> jonhnash: I think he's got the message.....
[11:19]  * ChrisMorgan too!
[11:19] <jonhnash> lol yes
[11:19] <bach> Try and keep the document to basic formating as possible some of the more complex documents don't translat very well
[11:19] <jesseboi> Anyone know if there's a program for Gnome that will embed a TV Tuner feed on my desktop?
[11:19] <Jackiz> i cant change my screen rezulution
[11:19] <ChrisMorgan> Have you got a dedicated graphics card?
[11:19] <ChrisMorgan> Or just integrated?
[11:19] <ikonia> jesseboi: there are a ton, ranging from full PVR systems like myth to smaller apps like tvtime
[11:20] <Jackiz> i dont understand
[11:20] <Jackiz> i have a nvidia. i think
[11:20] <Jackiz> it worked yesturday
[11:20] <Jackiz> but now it says unknown monitor
[11:20] <ChrisMorgan> ok, I'll hand it up to people who know more about it :P
[11:20] <blitz> Jackiz, is it part of the motherboard or a seperate card?
[11:20] <Jackiz> its a seperate
[11:20] <scuser> he all, any help with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/42122/ ?
[11:20] <Jackiz> blitz: its a seperate card.
[11:20] <jesseboi> ikonia:  But I mean, something that runs like a little applet on my desktop as though it were part of the background.  All the other apps seems to be geared towards a DVR use.
[11:21] <ikonia> scuser: thats not enough to help
[11:21] <ikonia> scuser: I suggest you contact the software maintainer for help
[11:21] <blitz> Jackiz, do you have all the drivers for nvidia?
[11:21] <Jackiz> i havent installed any drivers i think
[11:21] <Jackiz> but alot off updates
[11:21] <scuser> ikonia: so I was building lustre from sources and that error occurred after I typed make ?
[11:22] <blitz> go to System -> administration -> Hardware drivers and tell me whats in there
[11:22] <Jackiz> ok
[11:22] <ikonia> scuser: yes, and that error is not enoug
[11:22] <ikonia> enough
[11:22] <vinegaroon> scuser do you have build-essential installed?
[11:22] <hubertb> scuser, maybe you need to run "./configure" first (in the directory containing the sources)?
[11:22] <blitz> Jackiz, with nvidia you should see it listed, check the box if it is unchecked
[11:23] <scuser> hubertb: I did that !!
[11:23] <scuser> vinegaroon: build-essential is already installed !!?
[11:23] <blitz> scuser, theres probobly a thousand reasons that can happen you have to try and be more specific
[11:24] <Jackiz> blitz: its a guide or something
[11:24] <blitz> Jackiz, what is?
[11:24] <Jackiz> blitz: it asks me if my mouse works and so on
[11:24] <blitz> Jackiz, you should be in the Hardware Drives section, which only lists proprietary drivers avalable
[11:25] <blitz> Jackiz, make sure you went to DRIVERS and not testing
[11:25] <Jackiz> blitz:yes.. i see. i clicked wrong. now i have the driver
[11:25] <Jackiz> got to reboot
[11:25] <blitz> Jackiz, ok
[11:26] <torx1704> i have a problem, with my wireless it disconnects when im trying to play wow, can it be something with my driver ? :)
[11:27] <shappie> Hi all, i have a problem with a dualscreen setup with ATi HD3850 with fglrx driver thats included in ubuntu 8.04
[11:27] <shappie> I have 2 screens with different resolutions
[11:27] <shappie> I got Catalyst installed but still cant figure it out...
[11:27] <NeonMonk> someone refresh my memory, append text to a file from the terminal ?
[11:27] <blitz> torx1704, does it actually disconnect with a message or does it just not allow you to play
[11:28] <vinegaroon> NeonMonk: cat << file
[11:28] <blitz> torx1704, for example, start wow to the login screen, then tab out to a browser and try a page
[11:28] <torx1704> blitz sometimes i just cant play and other times , it disconects my whole new
[11:28] <torx1704> net **
[11:28] <ones> siapa wanita itu
[11:28] <NeonMonk> thanks vinegaroon
[11:29] <blitz> torx1704, you have logged in and played before tho?
[11:29] <tzolkin> hello guys
[11:29] <torx1704> blitz yes theres no problem at all when im playing with a wired network
[11:29] <blitz> torx1704, all i can reccomend is try and keep your syslog open and see what it says when you lose connectivity
[11:29] <shappie> hi
[11:29] <ones> hallo jga
[11:29] <wimpie> torx1704: do your wireless support Ubuntu because like Realtex or something they don't so I have to use Ndiswrapper for WoW
[11:30] <shappie> Nobody can help me with my ATi dualscreen problem?
[11:30] <blitz> torx1704, that way you have an idea whats goin on
[11:30] <torx1704> blitz how do i do that
[11:30] <nenico> Hello, can enybody help me whith wifi?
[11:30] <blitz> System -> Administration -> system log
[11:30] <torx1704> Wimpie, i use Atheros , and i had to use some crack to make it work ,
[11:31] <tzolkin> How can change my OpenOffice's language into Chinese?
[11:31] <wimpie> that can be one of the problems
[11:31] <blitz> torx1704, i agree with wimpie
[11:31] <Jackiz> blitz: still doesnt work :( i can change it so it is lover then 640x480 now. but i want it higher.. still monitor unknown
[11:31] <torx1704> wimpie, can you maybe help me, how to make my wifi work ?
[11:32] <wimpie> what kind of wireless card you got because I used a guide to make me wireless work for this notebook (Packard Bell SJ51)
[11:32] <ganjaman> how can i put samba 4 to hardy?
[11:32] <torx1704> wimpie, how can i link it
[11:32] <shappie> Someone here with ATi Hardy Dualscreen setup with 2 different monitors?
[11:33] <blitz> Jackiz,  we werent done :P  open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings"
[11:33] <Jackiz> blitz: okay :D
[11:33] <okaratas> den/clear
[11:34] <torx1704> wimpie, its a Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN card
[11:34] <Jackiz> blitz: yepp. i have done that now
[11:34] <wimpie> torx1704, I don't know how to install that but I think it should almost work the same
[11:34] <torx1704> okay :D..
[11:35] <blitz> Jackiz,  ok now under  System -> administration -> Nvidia X server settings
[11:35] <nenico> how i can get info of my harware?
[11:35] <torx1704> wimpie , is it ok i pm msg you ? :)
[11:35] <wimpie> sure
[11:35] <Jackiz> blitz: yes. im there
[11:35] <nenico> i have Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01), can enybody help me whit it?
[11:36] <Jackiz> blitz: looks good. i think i can change it here.
[11:36] <jpds> Jackiz: Is this on the LiveCD?
[11:36] <blitz> Jackiz, dont go crazy in there but give it a shot, youll have to log out and back in to see the effect
[11:36] <Jackiz> blitz: ok
[11:37] <Jackiz> blitz: im trying to use it.. i cant not see the shole thing cause my screen it 2 small right now xD
[11:37] <hubertb> nenico, I think you need the package named "b43-fwcutter"
[11:37] <blitz> Jackiz, you can hold alt while clicking a window to move it from anywhere
[11:38] <lmartin92isAFK> blitz: mouse just died
[11:38] <blitz> lmartin92isAFK, awwwwwww
[11:38] <lmartin92isAFK> blitz: will get my log and see what it was
[11:38] <blitz> lmartin92isAFK,  kk
[11:38] <Seb__> I never been able to make my USB Netgear WG111v2 wireless card work with Ubuntu properly, it automatically detects the USB wireless card, shows all networks, and I can connect to my Netgear DG834G router with WPA-PSK encription
[11:39] <Jackiz> blitz: nice
[11:39] <blitz> Jackiz, all done?
[11:39] <Seb__> it works for about 5 mins
[11:39] <Seb__> but then dies after 5 mins
[11:40] <tenbytes> how do i make "places>connect to server" save the connections and never delete them?
[11:40] <blitz> tenbytes, theres a checkbox callec add bookmark as you connect
[11:40] <tenbytes> yeah
[11:41] <tenbytes> but sometimes i restart and they get deleted
[11:41] <lmartin92isAFK> blitz: can I use pm?
[11:41] <blitz> lmartin92isAFK, yea
[11:42] <nenico> hubertb: i have it, now what?
[11:43] <nenico> hubrtb: that package b43-fwcutter
[11:44] <tapas> network manager -> right click -> edit wireless networks
[11:44] <tapas> shows the network i want to connect to just fine
[11:44] <hubertb> nenico, run "sudo modprobe b43" in terminal
[11:44] <tapas> but is there any way to connect to it?
[11:44] <tapas> without having to enter the info again in one of the other dialogs?
[11:44] <tapas> it seems roaming doesn't work with my wireless card so the network is nt offered on left click
[11:45] <nenico> hubertb: i got that message: sudo: unable to resolve host nenico-laptop
[11:45] <tapas> copy and paste works, but hell, ..
[11:46] <wimpie> !bot > WImpie
[11:46] <Jackiz> blitz: still no luck.. i can only set it down. i tried to write the number manualy and log in and out. still no luck
[11:46] <tapas> also, where do i adjust the setings for compiz in gnome?
[11:46] <tapas> [effects, etc..]
[11:46] <shappie> Nobody that can help me with making a dualscreen setup (with 2 different screens) with fglrx driver in Hardy (videocard is: HD3850)
[11:46] <shappie> ?
[11:47] <hubertb> nenico, it seems its a bit more difficult as i thought
[11:47] <bazhang> !ccsm | tapas
[11:47] <hubertb> nenico, check this website http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[11:47] <Theaxiom> Is there anyway to capture my desktop to webcam in ubuntu?
[11:47] <tapas> bazhang: thanks
[11:47] <bazhang> !screencast | Theaxiom
[11:48] <Theaxiom> bazhang: thanks
[11:48] <nenico> hubetb, if i use only modprobe b43, i got nothing, as weel as root
[11:48] <tenbytes> hey what is a proxy clicker?
[11:48] <Jackiz> blitz: still no luck.. i can only set it down. i tried to write the number manualy and log in and out. still no luck
[11:48] <hubertb> nenico, check dmesg
[11:48] <hubertb> nenico, if it shows no erros, "iwconfig" should list wireless-capable device
[11:49] <cga> hi all
[11:49] <blitz> Jackiz, you edited your xorg.conf directly?
[11:49] <nenico> hubertb, wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:""
[11:49] <nenico>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[11:49] <nenico>           Tx-Power=27 dBm
[11:49] <nenico>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2346 B
[11:49] <nenico>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[11:49] <nenico>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[11:49] <FloodBot1> nenico: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:49] <senectus> can someone point me to a repo that has the latest nvidia 173.14.12 drivers?
[11:49] <cga> is there anyone here with a DELL XPSm1330 with nvidia who can paste me his xorg.conf?
[11:50] <raanger> quacuni disponibile a parlare di problemi web cam su asuss eeepc?
[11:50] <cga> raanger: /j #ubuntu-it
[11:50] <hubertb> nenico, it seems that your wireless-nic is ready to use :-)
[11:50] <Jackiz> blitz: i have not edited any conf files..
[11:50] <elliotjhug> hi all couple of questions. Anyone tell me how to install grub themes and themes for the boot up splash?
[11:50] <raanger> cga intendi che devo andare su www,ubuntu.it?
[11:51] <blitz> Jackiz, I can tell you how to edit this file, but you have to know first that if this doesnt work you need to know how to restore a backup
[11:51] <Jackiz> ok
[11:51] <Jackiz> blitz: ok
[11:51] <nenico> hubertb, ok, but if i try connect to my router, it show me full signal, but if i connect, i got zero signal.... and no respod from DHCP :(
[11:51] <cga> raanger: no. entra in #ubuntu-it
[11:51] <blitz> Jackiz, and I mean without a gui at all, it is all console commands
[11:52] <Jackiz> oh..
[11:52] <Jackiz> can i not use google ?
[11:52] <Jackiz> for htat
[11:52] <Jackiz> that*
[11:52] <raanger> scusami ma sono nuovo...come faccio?
[11:52] <Jackiz> i have a notebook right here
[11:52] <shappie> Does somebody know how i can change the maximum resolution of a monitor that ATi catalyst shows?
[11:52] <Jackiz> so i can come to this channel if it doesnt work
[11:52] <hubertb> nenico, maybe its a problem with the encryption (if ur wlan is encrypted)
[11:52] <cga> raanger: fai così nella linea dove scrivi il tgesto: /j #ubuntu-it
[11:52] <shappie> ATi Catalyst Center says my 17 inch monitor can have 4096x4096...
[11:52] <shappie> But ofc thats not true it can max handle 1280x1024
[11:53] <ganjaman> hans reiser owned lol
[11:53] <ForgeAus> does ubuntu install Qt by default?
[11:53] <henux> hi, i have installed fluxbox into my ubuntu and i like it very much. is there an alternative to gdm which would be non-gnome and would suit the fluxbox style?
[11:53] <nenico> hubetb, i try no encryption and wep, in both cases i not got respond
[11:53] <bazhang> !it | raanger
[11:53] <ForgeAus> I know Kubuntu has GTK support by default (not sure how much or if all or any of it is installed, just that it supports GTK apps)...
[11:53] <bazhang> ganjaman, that is offtopic here
[11:53] <Theaxiom> bazhang: I can't find which one specifically creates a virtual hardware webcam...
[11:53] <raanger> CGA COME SI SCRIVE IL CANCELLETTO?????
[11:54] <LjL> !ot | ganjaman
[11:54] <hubertb> nenico, you need to know what kind of encryption your wlan uses (wep, wpa, wpa2 and so on)
[11:54] <bazhang> raanger, /join #ubuntu-it
[11:54] <LjL> ForgeAus: i don't think so, although of course Kubuntu does
[11:54] <hubertb> nenico, furthermore you need the correct key to join
[11:54] <LjL> ForgeAus: i guess you could always, say, "apt-cache --recurse depends ubuntu-desktop | grep qt"
[11:54] <LjL> raanger, non urlare
[11:54] <LjL> ranger: altGr insieme ad à
[11:54] <raanger> scusami ljl è stato un errore
[11:55] <nenico> hubetb, i yet have WEP, 128 bit, ACSII, whith shared key
[11:55] <koshari> henux you could remove gdm and have fluxbox boot without a session manager if you like however if you still use other sessions it would be a little inconveniant
[11:55] <raanger> grazie ljl
[11:55] <henux> koshari: what about slim?
[11:55] <amanulla> my laptop brightness decreases when i log in in ubuntu 8.04
[11:55] <amanulla> what to do?
[11:56] <senectus> ﻿can someone point me to a repo that has the latest nvidia 173.14.12 drivers?
[11:56] <henux> i think i would like to have a dm
[11:56] <koshari> henux not familiar
[11:56] <henux> k
[11:56] <henux> anyone familiar with slim?
[11:56] <KoolD> any one knows any good opensource alternative to flash??
[11:56] <henux> if i just apt-get it, do i need to do some extra configurations? what about if i want to switch back to gdm?
[11:56] <koshari> KoolD as in a player or alternative platform?
[11:57] <henux> koshari: do you know entrance?
[11:57] <hubertb> nenico, do you have gnome installed? then u should see an network-manager icon in the upper right near the clock
[11:57] <senectus> ﻿can someone point me to a repo that has the latest nvidia 173.14.12 drivers??
[11:57] <_Quark_> hi
[11:57] <koshari> henux no i have dabbled with using gdm to launch programs without a window manager and thats about all,
[11:57] <nenico> hubetb, yes, and i have network-manager runing
[11:58] <henux> okay
[11:58] <koshari> senectus you may find envy handy
[11:58] <hubertb> nenico, left-click on that icon - it should show all detected wireless networks
[11:58] <_Quark_> wow is there 1268 people in this chan?
[11:58] <Dp12> can we ask general installation stuff about ubuntu here
[11:58] <LjL> sure Dp12
[11:58] <up_the_irons2> Dp12: yes
[11:59] <senectus> koshari: Will they work for a 6600gt?
[11:59] <henux> does anyone know?
[11:59] <nenico> hubertb, i have no wifi visible
[11:59] <hubertb> nenico, strange
[12:00] <Dp12> ok, so Basically I have on laptop that's a Thinkpad t40, and it has no cd drive and a blank hard drive. I also have a thinkpad t21 that does have a Cd Drive and matching hard drive slot, so I wanted to know if I could put the t40's hard drive in the old computer, install Ubuntu, and then just put it back when I'm done, and if that will word?
[12:00] <Dp12> work*
[12:00] <hubertb> nenico, right-click on that icon -> "edit wireless networks" and remove all configuration profiles. Then reboot your box
[12:00] <xsx> Hi ..
[12:01] <up_the_irons2> Dp12: you might have driver issues, but it doesn't hurt to try
[12:01] <senectus> koshari: Will Envy work with a 6600GT?
[12:01] <xsx> i think i have a problem with ubuntu .. i have all installed the mysql ..only  with ..sudo ap-get install mysql-server mysql-client libdbd-mysql-ruby libmysqlclient15-dev
[12:02] <nenico> hubertb, if i use "iwlist wlan scan" i got: wlan      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[12:02] <sheen> hi
[12:02] <sheen> Somebody could help me with clonezilla live cd please, I have a very very very strange bug
[12:02] <xsx>  i mistype me only ..  in the command line mysql  and could see .. that i was in the mysql interface
[12:02] <xsx> is this normal?
[12:02] <hubertb> nenico, try "ifconfig wlan0 up && iwlist wlan0 scan"
[12:05] <xsx> It is normal ... when i put in the ... test@myserver:~$ mysql                 and come to the mysql interface    .. i dont really know .. i think this is a bug.. okay.. i cant create a db that allways when i try to create that say meaacces denied for user ''@'localhost'
[12:06] <JohnRobert> I'm unable to execute scripts within my home directory, and subdirectories of it (even as root, with execute bits set obviously), I get: sudo: unable to execute ./start.sh: Permission denied
[12:07] <KoolD> johnRobert: chmod +x start.sh
[12:07] <JohnRobert> -rwxr-xr-x 1 john john       656 2008-08-28 14:58 start.sh
[12:07] <JohnRobert> it's executable..there's something more weird going on
[12:07] <henux> is it okay to ask the same question again if nobody has given me an answer in about 10 minutes?
[12:08] <jrib> yes henux
[12:08] <JohnRobert> If I sudo to root (sudo -s), and then try running, I get: bash: ./start.sh: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[12:08] <wers> how do i play .midi files? :)
[12:08] <henux> i would like to use slim display manager instead of gdm. is it enought if i just apt-get it or do i need to do some extra configing? and what if i want to switch back into gdm?
[12:08] <hubertb> JohnRobert, try "sh start.sh"
[12:09] <JohnRobert> that works...hmm
[12:09] <jrib> JohnRobert: have you changed *any* permissions recently?  What are the permissions on /bin/bash?
[12:09] <hubertb> JohnRobert, seems that your script is bash-incompatible
[12:09] <leo_rockw> henux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm to go back
[12:09] <JohnRobert> yeah I think it might be the script
[12:10] <henux> leo_rockw: thanks
[12:10] <leo_rockw> henux: that worked for me when switching to kdm
[12:10] <ratna_cayanx> ari
[12:10] <henux> ok i will sudo apt-get slim now
[12:11] <cdoublejj> flannel if your there the last time i tried to boot linux it was saying so,me thing about ext2 format when i clearly formated with ext3
[12:11] <henux> done
[12:11] <henux> brb
[12:12] <JohnRobert> hmm, my scripts just don't like to run without a 'sh' to run them :/
[12:12] <JohnRobert> first line is: #!/bin/bash
[12:12] <Jackiz> it worked !
[12:12] <ratna_cayanx> Ari wiboyo ......boyo ijo
[12:12] <Jackiz> omg :D
[12:12] <jrib> JohnRobert: sh is dash, not bash
[12:12] <JohnRobert> even #!/bin/sh, or !
[12:12] <Jackiz> looks so good !
[12:12] <JohnRobert> yeah, it didn't work with dash either... bash is symlinked anyway
[12:12] <JohnRobert> bash: ./start.sh: /bin/dash: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[12:12] <JohnRobert> (as root)
[12:13] <Theaxiom> Are there any good VNC apps for linux?
[12:13] <JohnRobert> and the perms on dash are 0755
[12:13] <cdoublejj> is there an of topic for ubuntu?
[12:13] <aycher> can anyone give me some advice? i cant get my ethernet to work at all with ubuntu.. it does work on my XP partition.
[12:13] <Jackiz> thanks alot blitz ! :D it works !
[12:13] <Jackiz> :D
[12:13] <ga> foror some resn i havent got a .xauthority in my home folder
[12:14] <jrib> JohnRobert: pastebin the output of 'mount'
[12:14] <cdoublejj> aycher is it a driver problem
[12:14] <JohnRobert> one sec jrib ...
[12:14] <cdoublejj> maybe you need proprietary drivers
[12:14] <tyty> p
[12:14] <tyty> p
[12:14] <tyty> p
[12:14] <tyty> p
[12:14] <FloodBot1> tyty: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:15] <JohnRobert> jrib http://pastebin.com/m18c314a6
[12:15] <ga> can anyone help
[12:15] <linuX|xl00p> ich bekomm
[12:15] <linuX|xl00p> sun-java6 einfach nicht installiert
[12:15] <linuX|xl00p> mit ubuntu 8.04..
[12:15] <LjL> !de | linuX|xl00p
[12:15] <jrib> JohnRobert: which one is your script in?
[12:15] <JohnRobert> /home/john
[12:15] <aycher> cdoublejj: i dont think so
[12:16] <JohnRobert> bearing in mind /etc/init... scripts are on the same partition makes me wonder..
[12:16] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, apt-get install sun-java6-*
[12:16] <aycher> cdoublejj: how do i begin to figure that out?
[12:16] <linuX|xl00p> hubertb:  ye
[12:16] <linuX|xl00p> I did
[12:16] <linuX|xl00p> but Mozilla firefox won't accept java
[12:16] <linuX|xl00p> =/
[12:17] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, 64 bit?
[12:17] <cdoublejj> ne if the tasks bars with "administartion"
[12:17] <nenico> hubertb, i got my wifi visible, and when i try to connect, it have ask for passwd, i paste it, and i have no green light....
[12:17] <nenico> hubetb, oh i GOT IT, i have set psswd to WEP 128 bit, and if i have set it to WEP 64/128 ACSII it work
[12:17] <nenico> hubertb, thanks for yours time and help
[12:17] <cdoublejj> then drivers
[12:17] <linuX|xl00p> no
[12:17] <cdoublejj> there may be a prompt on your start bar up top for drivers
[12:17] <hubertb> nenico, no problem :-)
[12:17] <aycher> k
[12:17] <cdoublejj> i'm not a linux expert i'm just good at computers
[12:18] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, hmm, maybe there is a extra package for the browser-plugin
[12:18] <aycher> cdoublejj: checking now
[12:18] <cdoublejj> k
[12:19] <ckyle> is there a history saved for this channel, that can be searched?
[12:19] <Fenrisulvur> Evenin', quick question from a Linux n00b: I'm planning on installing Ubuntu to a partition I've reserved on my HDD soon - all my files are in a separate partition. How much space should I reserve for a Ubuntu partition?
[12:19] <feng> so anyone here
[12:19] <JohnRobert> I don't understand this, but I'm fairly sure if I add the exec option to the partition it'll probably work
[12:19] <jrib> !logs | ckyle
[12:19] <feng> ?
[12:19] <aycher> No proprietary drivers on this system
[12:19] <Redhammer> hi very quick question, how can I store a copy of a program from the archives locally, I will need to reinstall my laptop but I need wicd to connect to my network, so easiest for me to just store it locally
[12:19] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, did you restart ur browser?
[12:19] <jrib> JohnRobert: wait, /home/john is on a partition other than /dev/sda1?
[12:19] <linuX|xl00p> ye
[12:19] <JohnRobert> ahhhh
[12:19] <JohnRobert> wait
[12:19] <JohnRobert> I'm an idiot
[12:19] <Toth> what about "about:plugins" linuX|xl00p
[12:20] <blitz> Fenrisulvur, a minimum of 8g I would say, and the more space the better if you plan on downloading or something
[12:20] <JohnRobert> the directory in my home dir is symlinked to a dir on a different parition
[12:20] <jrib> JohnRobert: ah
[12:20] <JohnRobert> which won't exec
[12:20]  * JohnRobert slaps head
[12:20] <JohnRobert> :D
[12:20] <JohnRobert> heh, silly me
[12:20] <JohnRobert> :p
[12:20] <linuX|xl00p> Toth: nothin about java
[12:20] <Toth> linuX|xl00p: update-alternatives --config java
[12:20] <vinegaroon> Redhammier: copy the wicd deb package on to a pen drive or something
[12:21] <erUSUL> JohnRobert: i find home in its own partition more "elegant" ;)
[12:21] <hubertb> JohnRobert, strange that "sh start.sh" then runs that script
[12:21] <JohnRobert> not really
[12:21] <JohnRobert> because sh is the executable
[12:21] <linuX|xl00p> update-alternatives: Kann /etc/alternatives/java.dpkg-tmp nicht zu symbolischem Link auf /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java machen: Permission denied
[12:21] <linuX|xl00p> leet@linux:~$
[12:21] <JohnRobert> you execute sh, it then runs the script
[12:21] <linuX|xl00p> permission denied^
[12:21] <aycher> maybe i should just be glad the wireless is up and running
[12:21] <hubertb> JohnRobert, than "bash start.sh" should also run, or??
[12:22] <Fenrisulvur> Blitz: Thanks. I'm thinking 15GB.
[12:22] <JohnRobert> hubertb: yes that should aslo work
[12:22] <JohnRobert> *also
[12:22] <DJF5> I'm now running ubuntu on my laptop seperate partition... 20gb
[12:22] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, sudo?
[12:22] <Redhammer> yes but how can I get the deb package is there a switch for apt-get
[12:22] <DJF5> including /home... 1 user...
[12:22] <Redhammer> or can I save it locally
[12:22] <blitz> Fenrisulvur, keep in mind ubuntu has no real issue anymore with fat32 or ntfs so the rest of your space is still usable from the linux environment if you need to store there
[12:22] <jrib> linuX|xl00p: prefix your commands with 'LANGUAGE=en_US' so we can understand
[12:22] <DJF5> I'm thinking of expanding now... so, it all depends on your needs
[12:22] <hubertb> jrib, it says "cannot resolve symbolic link"
[12:23] <hubertb> jrib, or "cannot create symbolic link"
[12:23] <Toth> linuX|xl00p: ls -al /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so ?
[12:23] <jrib> hubertb: thanks
[12:23] <ech0s7> in what repositories is virtualbox ??
[12:23] <linuX|xl00p> ls -al /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:23] <linuX|xl00p> ls: Zugriff auf /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so nicht möglich: No such file or directory
[12:23] <ech0s7> my synaptic doesn't find virtualbox...
[12:23] <jrib> !info virtualbox-ose | ech0s7
[12:23] <blitz> Redhammer, looks like apt-get with a -d might do whatcha need
[12:24] <Toth> linuX|xl00p: sudo  update-alternatives --config java
[12:24] <linuX|xl00p> i did
[12:24] <Fenrisulvur> Blitz: Was hoping as much. All of my files will be in my Data partition, so it's only really the Ubuntu OS and Programs, etc that'll be in this partition.
[12:24] <blitz> Redhammer, just did an apt-get -help
[12:24] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, please run all commands with "LC_ALL=C [command here]"
[12:24] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, for english output and error messages
[12:24] <Redhammer> I have found it I think they are in var/cache/apt/archives
[12:25] <ckyle> does anybody know of a program to suck down all of the #ubuntu channel logs from http://irclogs.ubuntu.com?
[12:25] <linuX|xl00p> Using '/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java' to provide 'java'.
[12:25] <linuX|xl00p> leet@linux:~$
[12:25] <ckyle> a small winsock program
[12:25] <jrib> ckyle: wget I suppose...
[12:25] <ckyle> or linux sockets api
[12:25] <Chousuke> linuX|xl00p: I think the java plugin is a separate package
[12:25] <Toth> linuX|xl00p:  ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:25] <linuX|xl00p> :s
[12:26] <ckyle> is wget something I'd get using apt-get...?
[12:26] <Chousuke> ckyle: yes
[12:26] <jrib> ckyle: it's something you already have
[12:26] <JohnRobert> bl
[12:26] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, is "sun-java6-plugin" really installed?
[12:26] <linuX|xl00p> Toth:  no such file or dictory
[12:26] <Chousuke> it's not the sun jdk though...
[12:26] <ckyle> dang cool - lots of options...
[12:26] <Chousuke> it's the openjdk java
[12:26] <ckyle> thx
[12:26] <linuX|xl00p> hubertb: i cant do sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[12:27] <Chousuke> which supposedly requires the openjdk plugin
[12:27] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, why? Whats the error message?
[12:27] <Toth> linuX|xl00p: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[12:27] <erUSUL> Chousuke: sun-java6-plugin is sun's plugin the one that uses openjdk is icedtea-gcjwebplugin
[12:27] <hubertb> yeah @Toth
[12:28] <linuX|xl00p> Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:28] <linuX|xl00p> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:28] <linuX|xl00p> is only available from another source
[12:28] <Chousuke> erUSUL: that's what he needs then
[12:28] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, u need to activate universe and multiverse repos
[12:28] <linuX|xl00p> how =O
[12:28] <Chousuke> use openjdk ;(
[12:28] <erUSUL> Chousuke: if its on 64 bit linux yes
[12:28] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, synaptic :-)
[12:29] <valpin8> can someone help with wacom installing. I followed the instruction on wacom web site and ubuntu web site also but after my installation my display does't work
[12:29] <erUSUL> linuX|xl00p: do you have the 64 bit version of ubuntu??
[12:29] <linuX|xl00p> no
[12:29] <erUSUL> linuX|xl00p: ok
[12:29] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, System -> Systemverwaltung -> Synaptic-Paketerverwaltung
[12:29] <linuX|xl00p> and then?
[12:30] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, Einstellungen -> Paketquellen
[12:30] <dawynn> I'm on intrepid and having trouble with nvidia's driver.  Currently using the nv driver (I believe).  But I don't see it listed in xorg.conf.  What is the proper "Ubuntu" way to switch drivers anymore?  (Say, to nouveau)
[12:30] <linuX|xl00p> hubertb:  i dont find paketquellen
[12:30] <linuX|xl00p> =o
[12:30] <jrib> dawynn: #ubuntu+1 for help with intrepid
[12:30] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, and there check main universe restricted multiverse
[12:31] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, those 4 checkboxes
[12:31] <cdoublejj> WTH!!! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported rosewill not on here
[12:31] <linuX|xl00p> hm
[12:31] <cdoublejj> or rosewell
[12:31] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, done?
[12:31] <linuX|xl00p> hubertb:  dont find it on EInstellungen
[12:31] <linuX|xl00p> =x
[12:32] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, Menuitem "Einstellungen" in the menu-bar, then 2 second entry named "Paketquellen"
[12:32] <valpin8> any wacom users
[12:32] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, then the second entry
[12:32] <linuX|xl00p> hubertb:  dont have Paketquellen
[12:32] <linuX|xl00p> really o_O
[12:32] <hubertb> hm?!
[12:33] <linuX|xl00p> dont have somethink named Paketquellen
[12:33] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, don't believe that
[12:33] <linuX|xl00p> its true :S
[12:33] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, maybe youre in "Einstellungen" -> "Einstellungen"
[12:33] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, thats the wrong window :-P
[12:34] <linuX|xl00p> oO
[12:34] <linuX|xl00p> System -> Einstellungen
[12:34] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, other way: Press Alt+f2 an then enter "synaptic"
[12:35] <blitz> hubertb, i was waiting for that :P
[12:35] <linuX|xl00p> ok
[12:35] <linuX|xl00p> did
[12:35] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, then goto "Einstellungen -> Paketquellen"
[12:36] <linuX|xl00p> cant open Paketquellen
[12:36] <linuX|xl00p> only Einstellungen and FIlte
[12:36] <linuX|xl00p> r
[12:36] <brahle> hi
[12:36] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, why, whats the error?
[12:36] <linuX|xl00p> dunno, cant click on that
[12:37] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, ok, close synaptic
[12:37] <linuX|xl00p> k
[12:37] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, press ALT+F2 again and this time enter "gksu synaptic"
[12:37] <hubertb> it sould ask you for your password
[12:37] <cdoublejj> man are there any specific us made wirless out of box pnp wirless cards
[12:38] <linuX|xl00p> ah
[12:38] <linuX|xl00p> got paketquellen now
[12:38] <blitz> hubertb, are you just trying to get to repositories?
[12:38] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, check the boxes for "main", "restricted", "universe" and "multiverse"
[12:39] <linuX|xl00p> got all http://
[12:39] <hubertb> eh?
[12:40] <blitz> just to make sure youre in repositories, you could run "gksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties.desktop /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk" from terminal or command to get there
[12:40] <linuX|xl00p> im there
[12:41] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, check this: http://media.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/attachments/22/28/Paketquellen_GNOME.png
[12:41] <blitz> are the first 4 boxes on the first page checked?
[12:41] <linuX|xl00p> ye
[12:41] <linuX|xl00p> same as on http://media.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/attachments/22/28/Paketquellen_GNOME.png
[12:42] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, ok, then close this dialog-window and click "Neu Laden" in synaptic main window
[12:42] <brahle> i have a new laptop (koncar nika67) and my wirelles doesn't work in ubuntu. it works well in windows (both vista and xp). my card is probably realtek rtl8187. that's what the company where i got my laptop said. i'm not sure because i am a noob and don't know how to find it out myself.
[12:42] <linuX|xl00p> k
[12:42] <linuX|xl00p> done
[12:43] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, then click on "Suchen" and enter "sun-java6-plugin"
[12:43] <linuX|xl00p> not found
[12:44] <kelvinq> Hello folks. I'm stuck on this. I've a file "php.ini" and I want to copy it into every subdirectory below "X". That means I want it to be in "./X/y", "./X/z" and also "./X/y/A". How do I do it?
[12:45] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, to be honest - thats not possible if you enabled all repositories under "paketquellen" and did a reload ="Neu Laden"
[12:45] <blitz> brahle, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=716670 seems to address this
[12:45] <blitz> brahle, sorry havent messed with wireless myself in a few distros
[12:46] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, again check those paketquellen - are they enabled?
[12:46] <brahle> blitz, thanks, i'll read it :)
[12:46] <henux> can anyone help me to get SLIM work with Fluxbox?
[12:47] <linuX|xl00p> hubertb:  i did
[12:47] <linuX|xl00p> disable - enable all
[12:47] <linuX|xl00p> and Neuladen
[12:47] <linuX|xl00p> and search again - nothin found
[12:47] <FloodBot1> linuX|xl00p: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:48] <tapas> it would be nice if i could setup my system so that it handles the missing of nvidia drivers gracefullyh when booting a -rt kernel
[12:48] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, maybe you misspelled the packages name. Its "sun-java6-plugin"
[12:49] <linuX|xl00p> hubertb:  i did copy paste
[12:49] <linuX|xl00p> still nothing found,.
[12:49] <pLuhhmm> HI
[12:49] <arvind_khadri> !hi | pLuhhmm
[12:49] <pLuhhmm> i just installed ubuntu and someone said this is a good place
[12:49] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, please paste-bin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:50] <dknight> Having troubles mounting my windows partition
[12:51] <linuX|xl00p> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/42138/
[12:52] <blitz> dknight what troubles?\
[12:53] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, ur sources.list looks good
[12:53] <blitz> pLuhhmm, this is a good place for questions answered, if you are new to linux or even just ubuntu you will have a lot of questions
[12:53] <pLuhhmm> :o
[12:53] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, please open a terminal and become root using "sudo -s"
[12:53] <mnemo> is it possible to get color in the "ls" output that bash generates when I press TAB and there is many alternatives??
[12:53] <linuX|xl00p> k
[12:53] <nnull> can i remove cups if im not doing any networked printing?
[12:53] <linuX|xl00p> i did
[12:53] <pLuhhmm> i wanna be linux pro :D
[12:54] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, run "apt-get update"
[12:54] <pLuhhmm> but i am noob right now -_-
[12:54] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, any errors so far?
[12:54] <erUSUL> kelvinq: find X -type d -exec cp /path/to/php.ini {}/ \;
[12:54] <linuX|xl00p> hubertb:  done. all fine
[12:54] <linuX|xl00p> no error
[12:55] <pLuhhmm> how do i get command prompt to come up or w/e the linux version is?
[12:55] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, ok, then run "apt-get install sun-java6-plugin -s" (-s simulates only what apt-get would do now)
[12:55] <jrib> pLuhhmm: depends on what you mean by "linux version".  Ubuntu version or kernel version?
[12:56] <pLuhhmm> uhh
[12:56] <pLuhhmm> ubuntu?
[12:56] <jrib> !version | pLuhhmm
[12:56] <pLuhhmm> is kernel the server edition?
[12:56] <blitz> pLuhhmm, are you in gnome desktop?
[12:56] <pLuhhmm> !version
[12:56] <linuX|xl00p> Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:56] <linuX|xl00p> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:56] <linuX|xl00p> is only available from another source
[12:56] <linuX|xl00p> e2k: Package sun-java6-plugin has no installation candidate
[12:56] <FloodBot1> linuX|xl00p: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:56] <pLuhhmm> !shell
[12:56] <pLuhhmm> ugh
[12:56] <jrib> pLuhhmm: ugh?
[12:56] <pLuhhmm> ﻿lsb_release -a
[12:56] <pLuhhmm> lol...
[12:57] <blitz> pLuhhmm, most likely you are looking to click Applications -> accessories ->terminal
[12:57] <pLuhhmm> i think so
[12:57] <pLuhhmm> yep
[12:57] <blitz> this is a chat, not a shell :P
[12:57] <pLuhhmm> theres ifconfig
[12:57] <pLuhhmm> :D
[12:57] <jrib> pLuhhmm: if you have a recent version, System -> about Ubuntu will also tell you the version
[12:57] <pLuhhmm> i just dled from ubuntu site
[12:57] <pLuhhmm> and updated
[12:57] <henux> Does anyone use SLim with Fluxbox in Ubuntu? I am having troubles of using them together.
[12:58] <linuX|xl00p> hubertb: u see
[12:58] <jrib> linuX|xl00p: what does 'uname -m' return?
[12:58] <pLuhhmm> great
[12:58] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, very wired - sorry, i'm out of ideas. Maybe moving the last 2 lines of your sources.list to the beginning of the file could help
[12:58] <pLuhhmm> this is like learning windows @ age 6
[12:59] <pLuhhmm> -_-
[12:59] <linuX|xl00p> root@linux:~# uname -m
[12:59] <linuX|xl00p> x86_64
[12:59] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, congratulations, you've got a 64 bit system
[12:59] <linuX|xl00p> lOLz
[12:59] <erUSUL> linuX|xl00p: so you were using 64 bit ubuntu after all the troubles .....
[12:59] <hubertb> linuX|xl00p, on 64 bit there is no java plugin aviable
[12:59] <erUSUL> linuX|xl00p: o.0!!!
[12:59] <jrib> pLuhhmm: if you read through help.ubuntu.com you'll be pretty comfortable
[12:59] <blitz> pLuhhmm, originally linux was used and designed generally by programmers, trust me this is much easier than it used to be :p
[12:59] <erUSUL> hubertb: yes there is one
[13:00] <linuX|xl00p> rofl
[13:00] <pLuhhmm> >.<
[13:00] <hubertb> erUSUL, really??
[13:00] <pLuhhmm> xl00p
[13:00] <pLuhhmm> u noob
[13:00] <pLuhhmm> :D
[13:00] <linuX|xl00p> i Thought it was not 64.. i installed somethink and i said i dont have 64
[13:00] <linuX|xl00p> wtf =D
[13:00] <erUSUL> hubertb: linuX|xl00p use openjdk one is icedtea-gcjwebplugin package
[13:00] <jrib> linuX|xl00p just got a free upgrade
[13:00] <erUSUL> hubertb: linuX|xl00p should work on most situations
[13:01] <blitz> uh guys Im using x86_64 and have sun-java6
[13:01] <blitz> i think it installed with azureus
[13:01] <jrib> blitz: but not sun-java6-plugin
[13:01] <hubertb> blitz, yeah, but no browser-plugin
[13:01] <blitz> oh yeah probobly not
[13:01] <mnemo> is it possible to somehow see an overview of all the sub topics inside a man page?
[13:01] <linuX|xl00p> erUSUL: installing it
[13:01] <linuX|xl00p> :)
[13:01] <jrib> mnemo: no clue, maybe if you use info instead?
[13:01] <kelvinq> erUSUL: thanks! that worked well!
[13:01] <linuX|xl00p> somethink else
[13:01] <linuX|xl00p> ?
[13:01] <hubertb> blitz, check this: http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4802695
[13:02] <hubertb> no sun 64-bit plugin aviable yet
[13:02] <erUSUL> kelvinq: no problem
[13:02] <mnemo> jrib: is "info" used to view same docs as "man" ??
[13:02] <hubertb> an there wont be one for the next 50 years.... :-/
[13:02] <blitz> hmm.. well go to know.. havent needed it yet apparently :P
[13:02] <linuX|xl00p> erUSUL:  it still doenst work^^
[13:02] <linuX|xl00p> Applet not Initalisiert
[13:02] <erUSUL> linuX|xl00p: have you restarted the browser after installing it?
[13:02] <linuX|xl00p> ye
[13:03] <erUSUL> linuX|xl00p: can you give me the url you are trying ?
[13:03] <linuX|xl00p> http://www.knuddels.de/
[13:03] <erUSUL> linuX|xl00p: i can try from here using 64 bit linux too
[13:03] <jrib> mnemo: nah, only some projects will have info pages I believe (the gnu ones probably do).  I never really cared much about it
[13:03] <harry> Hai
[13:03] <linuX|xl00p> go to flirt
[13:04] <linuX|xl00p> ^^
[13:04] <harry> ?
[13:04] <linuX|xl00p> i mean erUSUL
[13:04] <linuX|xl00p> ^^
[13:04] <erUSUL> linuX|xl00p: fails for me too :| sorry
[13:04] <jpds> !ot | linuX|xl00p
[13:04] <nnull> anyone know any good tutorials on process/service auditing?
[13:05] <blitz> nnull, what you mean by auditing?
[13:05] <nnull> like when i netstat i have things listening on ports id like to find out what they are
[13:06] <nnull> i dont want to be running anything i dont need to be
[13:06] <blitz> so like a system monitor? probobly conky is your best bet
[13:06] <nnull> !conky
[13:06] <tavi> how i can upgrade my modem driver?
[13:06] <blitz> http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l18/blitz0x/Screenshot.png
[13:06] <blitz> check out my conky setup
[13:07] <jrib> mnemo: http://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/info/info.html if you're interested
[13:07] <tavi> i have a st516v6
[13:08] <mnemo> jrib: thanks
[13:08] <mnemo> blitz: that looks awecome, could you share your conkyrc maybe?
[13:08] <nnull> thats cool jrib, are those applets in ure top panel from conky?
[13:09] <nnull> i mean blitz
[13:09] <tavi> someone knows?
[13:09] <nnull> how much resources does conky take up?
[13:09] <blitz> mnemo, its 3 conkyrc files, anyone who wants em I guess I can email em, send me a message
[13:09] <jrib> mnemo: 'man man' might have some way of doing what you want too.  I'd be interested if you figure out a way
[13:09] <erUSUL> nnull: if you uuse -p with netstat it will list the processes using the ports iirc
[13:09] <blitz> nnull, I think youre referring to the system monitor applet for gnome panel
[13:10] <tavi> someone knows?????????????????
[13:10] <pLuhhmm> so...
[13:10] <tavi> i try to upgrade a driver for thomson modem
[13:10] <blitz> nnull, mine is a pretty intense setup and uses between .5 and 1% at all times of my processor (phenom 9600)
[13:11] <pLuhhmm> does anyone know since i installed ubuntu in vista, if i move the ubuntu partition on to my xp partition will everything work still???????????????
[13:11] <eventmaster> hello can somebody help me with my cinergy t usb xe
[13:11] <tavi> i try to upgrade a driver for thomson modem
[13:12] <henux> Anybody here uses Ubuntu with SLim and Fluxbox?
[13:12] <Rakeer> hey, whats a good quick compiler for ubuntu?
[13:12] <nnull> blitz, in that screen shot ure mem usage is at 98%?
[13:12] <jrib> Rakeer: compiler for what
[13:13] <Rakeer> a .c, vcp, and .cln files?
[13:13] <Rakeer> er *.sln
[13:13] <blitz> nnull, yeah its supposed to be.. right now its 30% inuse by programs and 70% cache
[13:13] <jrib> Rakeer: I never heard of those last two.  Use gcc for C.  Install the build-essential package
[13:13] <nnull> running VMware i assume?
[13:14] <tavi> i try to upgrade a driver for thomson modem
[13:14] <mnemo> pLuhhmm: if you are using WUBI then I dont think you can just move the file from vista to XP because WUBI also uses boot.ini customizations in windows afaik
[13:14] <nnull> blitz, ? running VMware i assume?
[13:15] <sampattuzzi_>  im recording in ardour and when the volume of the piece i am recording is high it goes crackly. does any body know how to fix this problem? I think the problem is with jack
[13:15] <blitz> nnull, thats the way memory works in linux, is to fill rememning ram with cache and buffers instead of swap .. its hotter but faster and more efficient
[13:16] <nnull> blitz? how much ram you got?
[13:16] <blitz> nnull, 4g physical
[13:16] <nnull> wth
[13:16] <cdoublejj> JESUS CHRIST
[13:16] <cdoublejj> is flannel here?
[13:16] <nnull> wth are you running that uses that much ram lol
[13:16] <henux> Okay. Does anybody understand how does the /etc/X11/Xsession script is supposed to work?
[13:17] <nnull> i dont really need to use swap either i have seen my ram usage go over 500 meg yet (and i have 2 gig)
[13:17] <blitz> nnull, its not actually "in use" it is cache to spped up program launch and interaction
[13:17] <cdoublejj> hi my fstab is completley gone ?
[13:17] <acp_> is there such a amplifier software for ubuntu, or any suggestion how can I bost the volume of my ltsp workstation?
[13:17] <nnull> so you load your tracker data into ure memory?
[13:17] <cdoublejj> can i fix it
[13:17] <blitz> nnull you probobly dont have things like "preload" installed
[13:17] <nnull> trackerd*
[13:18] <cdoublejj> fucking psycocats.net home folder moving guide said to press control x to save unfortunately that is to exit
[13:18] <jpds> !ohmy | cdoublejj
[13:18] <jrib> cdoublejj: it prompts you to save
[13:18] <cdoublejj> well then why is it goen
[13:18] <pLuhhmm> erm
[13:18] <jrib> cdoublejj: you did something wrong
[13:18] <pLuhhmm> can u uninstall linux?
[13:18] <cdoublejj> i ran the same commands the brought it up before except now it is empty
[13:18] <blitz> nnull http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=175419 here is an article I found which explains
[13:19] <mb2008> anyone using citrix Xen 4.1 and Hardy?
[13:19] <arvind_khadri> pLuhhmm, format the drive you have linux in
[13:19] <jrib> cdoublejj: pastebin the output of 'mount'
[13:19] <blitz> nnull, linux doesn't use ram the same as windows
[13:19] <pLuhhmm> OH NOES
[13:19] <cdoublejj> if some many other peole have failed atthen they have something wrong with the guide or dodn't know every thing aboutl inux
[13:19] <pLuhhmm> ARE YOU SERIOUS
[13:19] <pLuhhmm> i just cant delete linux?
[13:19] <arvind_khadri> pLuhhmm, ya
[13:19] <cdoublejj> jrib i just type in mount or sudo mount
[13:19] <jrib> cdoublejj: just mount
[13:19] <nnull> ok blitz, ill read that in a sec but can u tell me what trackerd does? its using 1.2gig of space on my small drive and i dont even know what its doign lol
[13:19] <cdoublejj> i'm on live cd
[13:20] <tranner> hello Im having problems connecting to the internet on ubuntu studio 8.04, as well as any other 8.04 release
[13:20] <jrib> pLuhhmm: you delet the partition it lives on
[13:20] <blitz> !trackerd
[13:20] <jrib> cdoublejj: well you need to get the information about your partitions somehow
[13:20] <blitz> nnull I believe trackerd works like preload
[13:20] <pLuhhmm> did it make a seprate patition when installed?
[13:20] <acp_> !amplifier
[13:20] <pLuhhmm> it said something like running linux as an app when installed
[13:20] <jrib> cdoublejj: sudo fdisk -l
[13:20] <nnull> blitz, ok
[13:21] <blitz> nnull I would get rid of it tho, a quick internet search says as much,
[13:21] <tranner> i'm running a ubuntu 7.10 live cd right now because when i go into ubuntu 8.04 or ubuntu studio 8.04 there's no options to connect to the internet
[13:22] <tavi> someone knowsssssssssssSSSSSSSS??????????/
[13:22] <nnull> so id be better of not tracking anything blitz?
[13:22] <arvind_khadri> !ask | tavi
[13:22] <jrib> cdoublejj: you are sure you are looking at your fstab on your hard disk for you ubuntu install right? not just the /etc/fstab for the live cd?
[13:22] <nnull> wouldnt that make my system slow or something
[13:22] <blitz> nnull, from what I read theres a lot of problems with it running away or working incorrectly in a manner that slows you down
[13:22] <nnull> oh
[13:22] <sasha87> hi all
[13:23] <arvind_khadri> !hi | saschahl
[13:23] <cdoublejj2> jrib http://slexy.org/view/s21uI9U7Dy
[13:23] <arvind_khadri> !hi | sasha87
[13:23] <sasha87> i wan tto know if ubuntu by any chance supports create sound blaster XFi sound cards
[13:23] <Eric70> hello everyboby
[13:23] <blitz> nnull, what preloading does for the system is uses any available memory to keep programs so it doesnt need to read from the hard drive to reopen them.. like my web browser and such
[13:23] <jrib> cdoublejj2: yeah, that won't help on the live cd, sorry
[13:23] <jrib> cdoublejj2: did you get my messages after?
[13:23] <torx1704> !ubuntu
[13:23] <arvind_khadri> sasha87, google about it... :) best way to know
[13:23] <sasha87> i have ran the live CD and didn't get any sound
[13:23] <nnull> blitz, would my 2 gig of DDR running compiz allow for this preloading you speak of?
[13:24] <nnull> the idea of having no ram when i want to launch a program i never do sounds scary
[13:24] <cdoublejj2> jrib no i can't boot off my hard drive a session won't even last 10 sec
[13:24] <nnull> or dynamic content
[13:24] <blitz> nnull it couldnt really hurt, just do an apt-get install preload and try it for a while
[13:24] <blitz> nnull if you dont like it, drop it :)
[13:24] <nnull> can u just answer one thing?
[13:24] <jrib> cdoublejj2: pastebin: sudo fdisk -l
[13:25] <blitz> nnull its not the same as ram that is "in use"
[13:25] <nnull> like it runs full... what happens if i start streaming alot of data to it, will it drop data to make room for this new incoming?
[13:25] <blitz> yeah the "in use" fills up and cache drops out
[13:25] <sasha87> i googled and found out that  ihave to install a sound subsystem called OSS
[13:26] <cdoublejj2> jrib here paste bin http://slexy.org/view/s20BixcVnC and here is the guide i was using http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[13:26] <jrib> cdoublejj2: alright, now how are you viewing your fstab if none of these are mounted?
[13:27] <Rakeer> jrib: this is what I am trying to compile (80k) http://www.vis.uni-stuttgart.de/~klein/fboCheckSupported.tar.gz
[13:27] <Whipped_> ö
[13:27] <cdoublejj2> jrib i put this in
[13:27] <cdoublejj2>  sudo cp /old/etc/fstab /old/etc/fstab_backup
[13:27] <cdoublejj2> sudo nano /old/etc/fstab
[13:28] <jrib> cdoublejj2: / is your livecd.  You need to mount the partition your fstab from the install is on
[13:28] <torx1704> do anyone know if counterstrike source works on ubuntu ?
[13:28] <jrib> torx1704: yeah, I think people use it with wine
[13:28] <jrib> !wine > torx1704
[13:28] <jrib> !appdb > torx1704
[13:28] <cdoublejj2> jrib so if something is unmounted it stays unmounted? even after reboot, hoe do i mount
[13:29] <cdoublejj2> sudo mount hda/dev
[13:29] <jrib> cdoublejj2: do you know which partition has your fstab in it?
[13:29] <jrib> Rakeer: did you try just typing 'make'?
[13:29] <cdoublejj2> i'll find so far it can't mount hda1
[13:29] <Rakeer> yes...but I do 'make /folder/' or make /file.c
[13:30] <torx1704> okay ty
[13:30] <jrib> cdoublejj2: sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[13:30] <wimpie> Hello, I got a question where is the php settings list
[13:30] <jrib> !compile > Rakeer
[13:30] <jrib> Rakeer: cd into the directory the Makefile is in and run 'make'
[13:30] <wimpie> torx1704, Does it work now the wireless ?
[13:31] <jrib> wimpie: checked /etc/?
[13:31] <naftilos76> Hi to everyone...How do we find out whether a file ascii or binary is accessed by an other app (that is already openned for reading or writting)???
[13:31] <jrib> naftilos76: maybe 'fuser'
[13:31] <naftilos76> That is, through a terminal!
[13:31] <wimpie> nope didn't check anything thanks found it
[13:31] <jrib> naftilos76: or 'lsof'
[13:32] <naftilos76> ok thnkks...let me try it!
[13:32] <torx1704> wimpie, nope
[13:32] <gge> hello ,  Please can somebody points to a link to install usb-serial driver (pl2303) ?
[13:32] <torx1704> wimpie, i couldnt find the driver so i just w8 till oktober , when ubuntu 8.10 come
[13:32] <cdoublejj2> i did sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[13:32] <cdoublejj2> then did mount hda 1
[13:33] <cdoublejj2> hda would nit mount
[13:33] <wimpie> torx1704, also possible
[13:33] <jrib> cdoublejj2: don't paraphrase.  Pastebin actual output (in full)
[13:33] <Rakeer> jrib: that seems to have worked..
[13:33] <Rakeer> jrib: dont see your pm however
[13:33] <hyphenated> gge: um.. you should just plug it in..
[13:33] <jrib> !compile | Rakeer
[13:34] <Rakeer> thankyou
[13:34] <jrib> cdoublejj2: never mind, I see what you did.  Just do 'gksudo gedit /media/hda1/etc/fstab' now
[13:34] <gge> huphenated , and run minicom ?
[13:34] <hyphenated> gge: yeah, but you probably need to tell minicom to use /dev/ttyUSB0 or something
[13:35] <deepfriedsquirre> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sda4 /mnt <!--newline--> Wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda4 blah dee blah
[13:35] <deepfriedsquirre> Where did I go wrong?
[13:35] <hyphenated> gge: after plugging it in, the last few lines of "dmesg" will say exactly which device to use
[13:36] <cdoublejj2> jrib http://slexy.org/view/s21RUFMROZ
[13:36] <jrib> cdoublejj2: yeah, that's fine.  My command already mounted it
[13:36] <Red13> I want to create music just installed Ubuntu if I grab Ubuntu Studio stuff to install think it would harm the system ?
[13:36] <cdoublejj2> well where is it file system does not shoe it?
[13:36] <jrib> cdoublejj2: wait, maybe not.  Do: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[13:36] <deepfriedsquirre> I'm trying to mount a DesktopBSD partition, so basically a FreeBSD one since they're pretty much identical.
[13:37] <gge> hyphenated , minicom says "not connected or disconnected "
[13:37] <cdoublejj2> jrib http://slexy.org/view/s21clANmpt
[13:37] <jrib> Red13: all the packages should be in the ubuntu repositories.  I would stick with the ubuntu repositories and not mix
[13:38] <hyphenated> gge: what'd the last few lines of dmesg say after you plugged it in? (put into a pastebin)
[13:38] <jrib> cdoublejj2: do 'gksudo gedit /media/hda1/etc/fstab' now
[13:38] <Pelo> morning folks
[13:38] <cdoublejj2> jrib it is blinking and hanging there
[13:38] <Pelo> how do I get my bottom panel to look like this,  I mean with the rounded corners and possibly the transparent bit around the edge ? is this gnome or kde ?  http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UqUwVPikChs/SLllVYPBnmI/AAAAAAAAE9o/WA73NQ-riSc/s1600-h/chocolate.jpg
[13:39] <tavi> someone know how to upgarde a modem?
[13:39] <jrib> cdoublejj2: did you include my quotes?
[13:39] <cdoublejj2> jrib http://slexy.org/view/s2IUcHJRBT
[13:39] <cdoublejj2> it took a miute\
[13:39] <tavi> someone know how to upgrade a modem?
[13:39] <Pelo> tavi, what do you mean by upgrading the modem ? the driver ? is your modem supported in the kernel or did you need to compile the kernel ?
[13:40] <jrib> cdoublejj2: is it what you expected?
[13:40] <haggis> Hi guys. i have installed Ubuntu 8.04 i cant set my rez to 1680*1050  but it seems to crop my screen on the left . i am uing a GMA 950 card
[13:40] <ompaul> Pelo, looks like neither - more than likely xubuntu with some funny theme
[13:40] <gge> hyphenated ,  usb 3-2: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[13:40] <gge> it detected now as  it is detected as per dmesg .. attcahed to ttyusb0
[13:40] <cdoublejj2> jrib i have no idea i am not any genious
[13:40] <cdoublejj2> jrib is that bad
[13:41] <jrib> cdoublejj2: pastebin that
[13:41] <Pelo> ompaul, thanks,  I guess I give up then
[13:41] <gge> grrr
[13:41] <cdoublejj2> jrib http://slexy.org/view/s2IUcHJRBT
[13:41] <ompaul> Pelo, check out #xubuntu and ask there
[13:41] <Pelo> ompaul, i'm not switching to Xcfe but I'll try asking thanks
[13:41] <jrib> cdoublejj2: well you don't have a separate partition for /home
[13:41] <J3D> how to install socks5 proxy server?
[13:42] <hyphenated> gge: um.. grep port ~/.minirc.dfl
[13:42] <deepfriedsquirre> haggis: I'm assuming you've tried system -> preferences -> screen resolution.
[13:42] <haggis> deepfriedsquirre yeah i have mate
[13:42] <WDC> Hey hey! When I close an RDP session, I get this error: 8017
[13:42] <WDC> oops
[13:42] <haggis> deepfriedsquirre  ill up load a pic to show u what i mean
[13:42] <deepfriedsquirre> haggis: did you try xorgconfig? beware, using this, you might mess things up, so make a backup of your old /etc/X11/xorg.com then run it
[13:42] <WDC> This error, sorry. http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8017/screenshotterminalservedt6.png
[13:42] <BunTai> i cant play .rmvb file..any solution?
[13:42] <cdoublejj2> jrib i have a second hard drive installed instead flannel said this guide http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome would work unless i was supposed to change some parameters
[13:43] <J3D> any1 help me how to install socks5 proxy server?
[13:43] <deepfriedsquirre> And answer the questions correctly, especially vertsync and horizsyc
[13:43] <Pelo> BunTai, install realplayer for linux
[13:43] <WDC> J3D: For web use?
[13:43] <Pelo> !realplayer | BunTai
[13:43] <BunTai> pelo..thanx
[13:43] <J3D> for web, ftp, irc
[13:43] <deepfriedsquirre> Bad values for them can result in smoked up screens with very old monitors, the Gentoo handbook told me.
[13:43] <jrib> cdoublejj2: which partition do you want to make your /home?
[13:43] <cdoublejj2> hdc1
[13:43] <J3D> WDC, for web, ftp, irc
[13:43] <haggis> ill go try the now
[13:44] <WDC> J3D: Well, for Firefox just go to Preferences, Advanced tab, settings
[13:44] <cdoublejj2> i was moving it to my second hdd since the first was getting awfully full
[13:44] <haggis> it sys the screen rez is 1680 *1050
[13:44] <WDC> http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8017/screenshotterminalservedt6.png When I close a RDP session I get that
[13:44] <haggis> just wander if the card cant do the rez
[13:44] <jrib> cdoublejj2: have you moved the data yet?
[13:44] <tavi> Pelo:  i don't know what means that
[13:45] <cdoublejj2> jrib i got all the way to the end of this guide http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[13:45] <Pelo> haggis, you'll hve to check the makers website for that ,  for the card's speck
[13:45] <WDC> ugh. IRC is so hit and miss
[13:45] <jrib> cdoublejj2: let's ignore the guide
[13:45] <J3D> WDC, not just setting socks.. but i will install socks5 proxy server lol
[13:45] <WDC> hit or miss*
[13:45] <WDC> J3D: Oh lol. '
[13:45] <Pelo> tavi,  what is your native language ?
[13:45] <WDC> J3D: I'm sorry
[13:45] <jrib> cdoublejj2: where is your /home data now?
[13:45] <tavi> romanian
[13:45] <cdoublejj2> jrib then yes i have moved the data as far as i know
[13:45] <J3D> any1 help me how to install socks5 proxy server?
[13:45] <jrib> cdoublejj2: mount hdc1 and check
[13:45] <deepfriedsquirre> haggis: You could try setting the resolution manually later in  xorg.conf; xorgconfig won't do 1680*1050
[13:45] <Pelo> !rm | tavi
[13:45] <deepfriedsquirre> haggis: I've tried; I have the same screen resolution.
[13:45] <cdoublejj2> jrib home is backed up on hda1 and also should be hdc1
[13:45] <Pelo> !ro | tavi
[13:45] <deepfriedsquirre> ﻿I'm trying to mount a DesktopBSD (so basically FreeBSD) partition, but I failed: '﻿root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sda4 /mnt <!--newline--> Wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda4...' Where did I go wrong?
[13:46] <tavi> i where there
[13:46] <guren> hi guys, is it possible to display small icons on gnome applications menu?
[13:46] <tavi> and are all sleep
[13:46] <Pelo> tavi, ok,  what kind of modem ? and what is the problem ?
[13:46] <tavi> st516v6
[13:46] <tavi> he get hot i can't put the hand on him and the internet broke down 30 to 30 minutes
[13:46] <Pelo> guren, check in gconf-edtor there might be an option
[13:47] <guren> Pelo: alright Pelo thanks
[13:47] <Pelo> tavi, this is an external dsl modem or cable ?
[13:47] <tavi> dsl
[13:47] <haggis> whats the comand to get xorgconfig to work
[13:47] <tavi> adsl broadband conection
[13:47] <Pelo> tavi, did you previously play with the firmware in the modem ?
[13:47] <tavi> play?
[13:48] <tavi> firmware mean what?
[13:48] <Pelo> tavi,  try to change the firmware or upgrade it ? ( I'm not recommending you do , I just want to know if you have)
[13:48] <Pelo> tavi, the firmware is like the bios for the devide
[13:48] <Pelo> device
[13:48] <tavi> well someone recommended me to upgrade driver
[13:49] <tavi> so what's the diference between firmware and driver?
[13:49] <cdoublejj2> jrib ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdc1
[13:49] <cdoublejj2> mount: can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[13:49] <Pelo> tavi, I don'T think this is a driver issue , drivers shouldn'T make external hardware heat up like this, at best they just work badly
[13:49] <tavi> well
[13:50] <tavi> i don't know
[13:50] <Pelo> tavi,  firmware is in the device itself , driver are on the computer's side and tell the OS how to use the device
[13:50] <jrib> cdoublejj2: no, first  create a place to mount it in /media like so: sudo mkdir /media/hdc1
[13:50] <cdoublejj2> sounds like hardware issues tavi
[13:50] <tavi> this is what wa s recommended to me
[13:50] <Pelo> tavi,  I think you got a bad modem , try getting it exchanged by the ISP
[13:50] <tavi> cdoublejj2:  i don't know he do me those things about a week
[13:50] <tavi> well until now worked fine
[13:51] <cdoublejj2> jrib http://slexy.org/view/s20JgNX3Hm
[13:51] <tavi> now mean 2-3 weeks
[13:51] <Pelo> tavi, things break down
[13:51] <bastian> hi. im trying to change my permissions to a folder... do i do that with chmod?   Or how do you change 'ownership'?
[13:51]  * Pelo is getting no love from #xubuntu 
[13:51] <tavi> maibe but i never do something to him
[13:51] <cdoublejj2> tavi i have seen hardware just straight act uo or fail with out anything to provoke it
[13:51] <tavi> except plug or unplug the cable
[13:51] <jrib> cdoublejj2: ok, that's not how you use mount.  It's: sudo mount DEVICE DIRECTORY.  So: sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc1
[13:52] <Pelo> bastian, ownership     sudo chown username:groupname /path/folder/or/file
[13:52] <tavi> so ...how should i check?
[13:52] <jrib> cdoublejj2: you can only just put the device if you've specified options in fstab
[13:52] <tavi> if is a hardware problem
[13:52] <Pelo> tavi,  you don'T , just take it back to the store
[13:52] <cdoublejj2> sorry jrib i'm very newbish to linux
[13:52] <tavi> has no things broken to outside surface
[13:52] <tavi> never fall down from hand
[13:52] <jrib> cdoublejj2: that's ok, we were all new at some point
[13:53] <cdoublejj2> ok jrib i have my drives mounted but i don't know how to view them they are not in my computer
[13:53] <Pelo> tavi, something might be damaged inside nothing to do with you , some components are just weak sometimes , it happens
[13:53] <jrib> cdoublejj2: go to /media/hdc1 in nautilus
[13:53] <tavi> and Pelo what;s that whit the terminal you told me?
[13:53] <bastian> Pelo:  Thanks!!  is there anywhere i can learn this by myself?  I've been using linux for a year now, and it's really been a slow learning process.. thanks
[13:54] <tavi> Pelo: how much should resist a modem ?
[13:54] <mrglinux> I have problems with conexant modem driver on ubuntu 8.04 but in 7.10 I didn't have any problem can I downgrade my kernel to previous kernel without any problem ?
[13:54] <selje> hi, i have a problem with my ATI Radeon 2900 XT card in ubuntu. When i play games the game goes from full screen to window, and some black lines comes over the screen. suggestions?
[13:54] <Pelo> bastian, try this link  for bash shell stuff, http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[13:54] <cdoublejj2> ok jrib there is a file called user it looks like my home folder except it is not in foldercalled home just user, isn't user suppposed to be inside home
[13:55] <jrib> cdoublejj2: "user" is your username?
[13:55] <cdoublejj2> yupers jrib
[13:55] <blitz> tavi,  over the years I have lost 3 routers, 2 cable modems and a dsl modem.  sometimes these things just break and die.  Just like power supplies and hard drives, fans and ramchips.. etc.
[13:55] <jrib> cdoublejj2: that's good.  It will be mounted as /home and "user" will be in it
[13:55] <tavi> are made bad from thefactory
[13:55] <tavi> ?
[13:55] <Pelo> tavi, I can'T tell you stuff like that,  electronic devices are full of little bits welded together , sometimes one is not so good and then it breaks down from regular usage, you can'T tell before hand,  that's why there are waranties.  take the modem back to the store and have then try it out
[13:56] <GReeK_RiDeR> Dark_Fighter
[13:56] <cdoublejj2> ok jrib then how do i fix it?
[13:56] <tavi> is rent from my provider
[13:56] <tavi> i doubt they do something
[13:56] <deepfriedsquirre> ﻿I'm trying to mount a DesktopBSD (so basically FreeBSD) partition, but I failed: '﻿root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sda4 /mnt <!--newline--> Wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda4...' Where did I go wrong?
[13:56] <bastian> Pelo: ok, thank you, goodbye
[13:56] <Pelo> tavi, then call the provider and tell them the modem is damaged and you need a new one,  they will replace it , they have to , you are renting it
[13:56] <jrib> cdoublejj2: now empty /home in hda1.  (move the contents somewhere else)
[13:57] <cdoublejj2> tavi i use at&t they replaced my router sent my a new on in the mail and i sent them the old one
[13:57] <nutsy> In Unbuntu when something goes wrong with the graphics card driver stuff... How do you reinstall the card and drivers? Some thing went fluffed and i dont know how to fix it. I can no longer get the card to run at full HD any more it only goes up to XGA reses
[13:57] <nutsy> btw this problem arrised when i was trying to get mythbuntu to run at 1080
[13:57] <Pelo> nutsy, what is the exact nature of the problem and what card is it ?
[13:58] <nutsy> nvidia 7800 mobile
[13:58] <mrglinux> not have problem with hsfmodem_7.60.00.18oem_i386.deb driver in ubutnu 8.04 (on notebook and conexant modem ) ??
[13:58] <nutsy> gtx
[13:58] <mrglinux> not  any one have problem with hsfmodem_7.60.00.18oem_i386.deb driver in ubutnu 8.04 (on notebook and conexant modem ) ??
[13:58] <tavi> don't know here providers aren't so polite
[13:58] <Pelo> nutsy, just use envyng to remove the driver and reinstall it ,  but before hand you might want to remove/rename your xorg.conf file and make a new one after the driver is reinstalled
[13:58] <cdoublejj2> jrib it is to smart for it's own good it won't let me, the move to trash option is greyed out
[13:58] <mrglinux> in my notebook just sound disbale
[13:58] <blitz> nutsy, when working with xorg.conf you always make backups, to fix the problem you replace the xorg.conf with the working backup. making small changes at a time is the key
[13:59] <Pelo> tavi, then be less polite
[13:59] <mrglinux> and not working but in 7.10 it works
[13:59] <BunTai> can i install Internet download manager in ubuntu? or any suggestion?
[13:59] <mrglinux> ﻿BunTai kget
[13:59] <Pelo> tavi, you are the customer, you are renting a modem , the modem is damage , you have the right to request a working one
[13:59] <blitz> tavi, if you rent a car and it breaks on its own what should you do?
[13:59] <Pelo> nutsy, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[13:59] <jrib> cdoublejj2: do you already have a /media/hda1/homeold?
[13:59] <BunTai> how mrglinux
[13:59] <Spasysheep> Can anyone help me get my nvdia drivers working on 8.04?
[13:59] <tavi> well here the prociders are crap
[13:59] <Pelo> Spasysheep, what have you done so far
[14:00] <mrglinux> ﻿BunTai do you have it ?
[14:00] <tavi> and i want to give a site
[14:00] <tavi> and tell me if is good
[14:00] <Pelo> tavi,  the only other option is for you to buy your own modem
[14:00] <cdoublejj2> jrib i have a /media/hda1/home_backup
[14:00] <BunTai> yes
[14:00] <RainCT> Hi. I'm trying to setup polipo but it doesn't work on any computer beside that one where it is installed... http://paste.ubuntu.com/42152/plain/  Any idea of what the problem could be?
[14:00] <tavi> http://speedtouch.sourceforge.net/index.php?/download.en.html
[14:00] <senectus> how can I force the cdrom to mount to /media/cdrom ?? It keeps naming the mount point whatever the CD is named...
[14:00] <tavi> here
[14:00] <mrglinux> ﻿BunTai if not please install but there are another Internet download manger but I work with it
[14:00] <Spasysheep> pelo: installed them, same as i did b4 i had to re-install ubuntu
[14:00] <cdoublejj2> jrib does that mean i need a home old before i can delete the home
[14:00] <tavi> what you think about it?
[14:00] <Spasysheep> pelo: they worked then
[14:00] <troythetechguy> I have a back up question.  If I use imaging software to image my Ubuntu and XP partitions on my HDD, then re-partition the drive, making the partitions large than the imaged size, will I be able to re-install the images on the new partitions without any issues, or must the size of the new partitions be exactly the same as the existing partitions?
[14:01] <Pelo> tavi, this is not a ubuntu issue , we told you what you had to do , get a new modem , ether from your ISP or bey one your self
[14:01] <mrglinux> ﻿BunTai what do you expect of you download manager ?
[14:01] <BunTai> speed
[14:01] <Pelo> Spasysheep, HOW  did yo uinstall ?
[14:01] <BunTai> speed when download
[14:01] <BunTai> :)
[14:01] <jrib> cdoublejj2: ok, lets move this one too as a backup.  You can delete the backups once you know everything is working.  Do this: sudo mv /media/hda1/home /media/hda1/homeold && sudo mkdir /media/hda1/home
[14:01] <BunTai> kget can?
[14:01] <senectus> ﻿how can I force the cdrom to mount to /media/cdrom ?? It keeps naming the mount point whatever the CD is named...
[14:01] <tavi> this is a ubuntu issue...they say they make drivers for linux....so is real
[14:01] <tavi> ?
[14:01] <erudite> Last night I executed the command: "srm -rv .wine .vlc" However it seemed to remove a lot of my folders in my home folder....why is this?
[14:01] <mrglinux> ﻿BunTai hmm not bad because the base of all of them is wget
[14:01] <RainCT> troythetechguy: it should work as long as it fits on the partition
[14:01] <mrglinux> ﻿BunTai but you can try it
[14:01] <BunTai> ok
[14:01] <BunTai> thnx
[14:02] <troythetechguy> RainCT: Thanks.
[14:02] <Spasysheep> pelo: synaptic package manager, then re-install, uninstall, re-install through terminal
[14:02] <cdoublejj2> k jrib i think it worked it ran in terminla now what do i do
[14:02] <Pelo> tavi, modem heating up is not an operating system / driver issue,  it is a hardware issue
[14:02] <jrib> cdoublejj2: now open up your fstab again
[14:02] <RainCT> erudite: perhaps you had left a space between one of the points and the words after it (eg, ". wine")
[14:02] <mrglinux> ﻿pelo no have idea for this problem .. conexant modem driver (on ubutnu 8.04) that doesn't work ?
[14:02] <Pelo> Spasysheep, install envyng-gtk,   let it install the driver for you
[14:03] <Spasysheep> pelo: kk thnx
[14:03] <Pelo> mrglinux, what ?
[14:03] <cdoublejj2> k jrib how do i open fstab, why is it called fstab makes me think of stabing someone or getting stabed :P
[14:03] <tavi> maibe ...or who told me that could be a driver upgrade issue war right ...and that is a site that say can upgrade modems in linux
[14:03] <erudite> RainCT..and what would this do?
[14:03] <RainCT> cdoublejj2: Alt+F2   gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[14:03] <Theaxiom> I installed firestarter on my other computer and then my internet stopped working, so I uninstalled it and my internet still does not work, any ideas?
[14:03] <Dabbu> everytime i login i have to restart /etc/init.d/networking to make my network work...............any help
[14:03] <RainCT> erudite: remove everything in the home folder, if you were inside it (. = current directory)
[14:03] <jrib> cdoublejj2: ha, I don't actually know.  We need to do one more thing.  Do: sudo blkid  and find the UUID for hdc1
[14:04] <BunTai> how about open WINRAR on UBUNTU..any suggestion??
[14:04] <jrib> !rar > BunTai
[14:04] <Pelo> tavi,  then the site should provide you iwth instrucitons or a link to instructions
[14:04] <cdoublejj2> k jrib unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0
[14:04] <cdoublejj2> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[14:04] <cdoublejj2> /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
[14:04] <Theaxiom> BunTai: sudo apt-get install rar
[14:04] <Pelo> BunTai, sudo apt-get install unrar , that will add rar support to fileroller ( the archive manager)
[14:04] <cdoublejj2> now what do i do jrib or what code do i put in?
[14:04] <erudite> RainCT, thanks...that really fucked me over...i'm gonna have to be more careful from now on...luckily i realised what it was doing before everything was gone and I didn't have anything too important in home directory at the time
[14:04] <cdoublejj2> i want hdc1 as home
[14:04] <jrib> cdoublejj2: blkid didn't tell you anything about hdc1?
[14:04] <tavi> well look to it and say is a good site?
[14:04] <BunTai> thnx all
[14:04] <mrglinux> ﻿Pelo: I have a notebook with conexant modem and in ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 I got conexant modem driver from dell company and everything was good and worked but in ubuntu 8.04 I installed last version of that driver but doesn't work and my sound disable
[14:05] <senectus> ﻿how can I force the cdrom to mount to /media/cdrom ?? It keeps naming the mount point whatever the CD is named...
[14:05] <cdoublejj2> jrib blkid ?
[14:05] <Pelo> laundry to do , later folks
[14:05] <brahle> hi
[14:05] <BunTai> unrar or rar?huh..two answer
[14:05] <nnull> who here uses trackerd? im running this and dont really want to am i gunna have any trouble if i get rid of this?
[14:05] <cdoublejj2> brb
[14:05] <Theaxiom> BunTai: rar
[14:05] <Dabbu> everytime i login i have to restart /etc/init.d/networking to make my network work...............any help
[14:05] <BunTai> ok
[14:05] <erudite> RainCT, Do I need to reinstall the programs where that folder was removed?
[14:05] <talx> how i install wine, sudo apt-get install wine?
[14:05] <Pelo> mrglinux, tavi has an external dsl modem, this is not the same as a built in wifi or some such
[14:05] <tavi> and also how i see if the hardware are whit the latest drivers in ubuntu?
[14:05] <jrib> BunTai: either will work.  See ubottu's link
[14:05] <Pelo> later folks
[14:05] <erudite> yes talx
[14:05] <BunTai> thnx
[14:05] <RainCT> nnull: no, you can get ride of it :)
[14:05] <jrib> cdoublejj2: ha, I don't actually know.  We need to do one more thing.  Do: sudo blkid  and find the UUID for hdc1
[14:05] <brahle> i have rtl8187 wlan card which doesn't work in ubuntu
[14:06] <brahle> i tried to follow http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rtl8187_wireless
[14:06] <nnull> RainCT, ure sure bro?
[14:06] <brahle> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=716670
[14:06] <nnull> !tracker
[14:06] <mrglinux> isn't it a bug for this modem? are there any one hase same problem with his/her notebook ?
[14:06] <brahle> and a couple of suggestions from other forums
[14:06] <RainCT> nnull: Disable it and then go to Sistem -> Preferences -> Sessions and uncheck it there and it shouldn't start anymore. Yes, I have it disabled here.
[14:06] <Theaxiom> ﻿I installed firestarter on my other computer and then my internet stopped working (I can not access external sites), so I uninstalled it and my internet still does not work, any ideas?
[14:06] <brahle> but nothing worked
[14:06] <nnull> RainCT,  and your system runs no slower ?
[14:07] <nnull> RainCT, and by disble it u mean kill it?
[14:07] <RainCT> nnull: no, there is an option to "don't index" somewhere
[14:07] <nnull> RainCT, any idea where? lol
[14:07] <nnull> think i found it
[14:07] <RainCT> nnull: Why would it be slower? It goes faster, but you can't use it's search feature.
[14:07] <RainCT> *it's -> tracker's
[14:08] <nnull> oh so i cant search in nautilus?
[14:08] <RainCT> nnull: you still can in nautilus
[14:08] <brahle> can somebody help me please? :)
[14:08] <nnull> lolk
[14:08] <nnull> wth is this program for lol
[14:08] <RainCT> nnull: but tracker has it's own search (the applet on the top panel) which is better
[14:08] <cdoublejj2> jrib i'm back what do i do with fstab
[14:09]  * cdoublejj2 grabs a knife for fstab
[14:09] <jrib> cdoublejj2: did you get the UUID?
[14:09] <BunTai> i dont know how to use kget..is that same as internet download manager..??
[14:09] <nounours> comment on fait pour aller sur le site français?
[14:09] <nnull> RainCT, so do i turn off Index File Contents Index Mounted directories Index and Watch my home directory ?
[14:09] <cdoublejj2> jrib yeah i closed it though :( sorry how do i bring it back  up , i should have left it open
[14:09] <BunTai> i want to download movie
[14:09] <jrib> cdoublejj2: sudo blkid
[14:09] <BunTai> but it save on firefox...
[14:09] <RainCT> nnull: yep
[14:10] <senectus> ﻿how can I force the cdrom to mount to /media/cdrom ?? It keeps naming the mount point whatever the CD is named...
[14:10] <nounours> #ubuntu.fr
[14:10] <jpds> nounours: #ubuntu-fr
[14:11] <nnull> there are services that start when i boot that arent in Sessions, how to i turn them off
[14:11] <Reaper> Hi, I am having a problem with Grub. On boot, if I enter my Ubuntu, it says cannot mount volume. So I press ' e ' and edit it, and change it do h(0,4), then press ' b ', and then it gives me reading files to be booted ( several sets of lines comes after that ), TILL I reach my ubuntu. It was not like that before, and I have just recovered Grub yesterday after windows re-installation.
[14:11] <BunTai> i dont know how to use kget..is that same as internet download manager..??
[14:11] <cdoublejj2> here you go jrib http://slexy.org/view/s2t7Aa8Grk what does it all mean
[14:11] <mrglinux> ﻿BunTai yes
[14:11] <Theaxiom> ﻿I installed firestarter on my other computer and then my internet stopped working (I can not access external sites), so I uninstalled it and my internet still does not work, any ideas?
[14:12] <RainCT> nnull: Sistem -> Administration -> Services. But care to don't remove anything that you need
[14:12] <mrglinux> ﻿BunTai you can add flashgot add-on  on firefox and link to kget
[14:12] <BunTai> why kget dont auto download?
[14:12] <BunTai> owh
[14:12] <nnull> RainCT, theres stuff that loads thats not in services
[14:12] <nnull> its in init.d i think
[14:12] <nnull> but theres like 1000 things init.d
[14:12] <Reaper> anyone to help please?
[14:12] <mrglinux> when you config it .. you can add all of links to kget with a click
[14:12] <raven> Hi, I'm having some problem booting into my new Ubuntu-install. In grub it says Error 17 and fdisk -l says it's formatted as FAT16 but when i check the properties in Linux it says it's formatted as ext3... :S
[14:12] <BunTai> because when i want to download,it will download using firefox..not kget..that why im wondering
[14:13] <BunTai> mrglinux..any suggestion?
[14:13] <Reaper> Hi, I am having a problem with Grub. On boot, if I enter my Ubuntu, it says cannot mount volume. So I press ' e ' and edit it, and change it do h(0,4), then press ' b ', and then it gives me reading files to be booted ( several sets of lines comes after that ), TILL I reach my ubuntu. It was not like that before, and I have just recovered Grub yesterday after windows re-installation.
[14:13] <RainCT> nnull: Right. I'm not sure if there's a graphical way to get ride of those; there are some command line application for it but I don't remember their name right now, sorry :(
[14:14] <mrglinux> ﻿BunTai if you install flashgot on firefox and config it and define the extension of files .. it will open in kget
[14:14] <cdoublejj2> jrib ?
[14:14] <jrib> cdoublejj2: add this line to your fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/42157/ .  By the way: your hdc1 is formatted as ext2 instead of ext3?
[14:14] <BunTai> how mrglinux?
[14:14] <BunTai> apt-get install flashgot?
[14:14] <BunTai> like that?
[14:14] <nnull> no worries RainCT thanks for u help bro :)
[14:15] <cdoublejj2> jrib i am pretty sure i tode gkparted to formatt as ext3
[14:15] <Theaxiom> BunTai: flashgot is a firefox addon
[14:15] <mrglinux> also you must config firefox to download with another downlaod manager.. when open a link .. does firefox how to download?
[14:15] <BunTai> ok
[14:15] <BunTai> sorry
[14:15] <maxkelley> Hi all, how do I upgrade to feisty from edgy, because edgy no longer has valid repositories?
[14:15] <BunTai> :)
[14:15] <BunTai> i dont know thats why im asking..
[14:15] <BunTai> brb
[14:15] <erudite> Is there any way to recover my password...it's stored in Gmail notifier?
[14:15] <jrib> cdoublejj2: what does 'mount' say?
[14:15] <aualin> Why do you want do that downgrade maxkelley?
[14:16] <maxkelley> aualin: downgrade?
[14:16] <cdoublejj2> jrib where do i pastte uid thing when i bring up fstab it is still blank i think it is bringin up the live session fstab
[14:16] <aualin> Whoops
[14:16] <aualin> I read it wrong :)
[14:16] <maxkelley> hehe
[14:16] <jrib> cdoublejj2: gksudo gedit /media/hda1/etc/fstab
[14:16] <maxkelley> oh, shoot.
[14:16] <aualin> I mean why do you want to upgrade to feisty instead of hardy?
[14:16] <senectus> ﻿how can I force the cdrom to mount to /media/cdrom ?? It keeps naming the mount point whatever the CD is named...
[14:16] <BunTai> An error occurred during a connection to services.addons.mozilla.org:443.
[14:16] <BunTai> SSL received a record with an incorrect Message Authentication Code.
[14:16] <BunTai> (Error code: ssl_error_bad_mac_read)
[14:16] <BunTai> why?
[14:16] <FloodBot1> BunTai: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:16] <maxkelley> aualin: you can't upgrade straight and skip a version, can you?
[14:16] <cdoublejj2> here jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/42158/
[14:17] <BunTai> sorry
[14:17] <aualin> I am pretty sure you can :)
[14:17] <jarle> Each time I update to a new kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst uses "root (hd2,0)" instead of "root (hd0,0)" which I need to have booting working. Where can I correct this?))
[14:17] <BunTai> why i cant add flashgot?
[14:17] <maxkelley> oh, ok.
[14:17] <BunTai> any solution?
[14:17] <maxkelley> thanks aualin
[14:17] <aualin> maxkellet: Try it first and see if it works.
[14:17] <brahle> i have a new laptop that has rtl8187 wireless card. it works fine in windows (both vista and xp) and doesn't work in ubuntu. i tried using ndiswrapper, but it says hardware isn't detected. i also tried some suggestions from the forums but nothing works. can somebody please help me? :)
[14:17] <mrglinux> ﻿BunTai are you newbie ?
[14:17] <cdoublejj2> k jrib it looks like hdc1 is ext3 and i got the fstab open
[14:17] <jrib> cdoublejj2: ok it is ext3.  Fix the line I told you to add to reflect that.  Pastebin your edited fstab when you are done
[14:17] <BunTai> new for firefox
[14:18] <cdoublejj2> jrib i just replace the with a 3 right??
[14:18] <mrglinux> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=flashgot&cat=all
[14:18] <jrib> cdoublejj2: yep
[14:18] <maxkelley> aualin: well, not only that, but I found a link to repository for old releases, which is what I need, so I can upgrade everything on edgy, then install the latest stuff.
[14:18] <BunTai> thanks
[14:18] <BunTai> brb
[14:19] <senectus> ﻿how can I force the cdrom to mount to /media/cdrom ?? It keeps naming the mount point whatever the CD is named...
[14:19] <aualin> maxkelley: Why not upgrade directly to hardy?
[14:20] <aualin> maxkelley: Less to download and install
[14:20] <cdoublejj2> jrib like this or is the tottaly wrong
[14:20] <legend2440> jarle: open    /boot/grub.menu.lst   and make sure     # groot=(hd0,0)  then it won't change
[14:20] <aualin> maxkelley: just run update-manager -c in console
[14:20] <maxkelley> because I run into dependency hell
[14:20] <nnull> anyone know what vanadium.canonical.com is? is this a update server or something ?
[14:20] <aualin> maxkelley: Damn that's pretty serious.
[14:20] <jannes> hello, how do i find out which program is blocking my sound device?
[14:20] <maxkelley> ja
[14:21] <senectus> ﻿how can I force the cdrom to mount to /media/cdrom ??
[14:21] <aualin> maxkellet: Easiest would be too backup all your documents settings etc. and install hardy from scratch
[14:21] <legend2440> jarle: open    /boot/grub/menu.lst   and make sure     # groot=(hd0,0)  then it won't change
[14:21] <smm289> Hello everyone, Vista Ubuntu file sharing question here
[14:21] <raven> How do I make grub detect my new Ubuntu install?
[14:21] <maxkelley> aualin: nah, it's a server, I'm too lazy
[14:21] <maxkelley> It wouldn't be too bad to take it down, but I want to try this first.
[14:22] <nnull> anyone know what vanadium.canonical.com is? is this a update server or something ?
[14:22] <aualin> maxkelley: Do that. But backup everything before you try that.
[14:22] <cdoublejj2> jrib here http://slexy.org/view/s21r2F9Boi
[14:22] <jarle> legend2440: you actually want to have groot= commented out (using # in front?)
[14:22] <Spasysheep> whats the command to re-start xserver?
[14:22] <legend2440> jarle: yes do not remove the  #
[14:22] <root_sashok> hello all =)
[14:22] <aualin> Spasysheep: try pressing ctrl+alt+backspace
[14:22] <jrib> cdoublejj2: looks good, reboot
[14:22] <nnull> Spasysheep, ctrl alt backspace
[14:22] <jannes> Spasysheep: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:23] <Spasysheep> thanks ppl
[14:23] <cdoublejj2> k jrib i'm gonna save and reboot
[14:23] <jrib> cdoublejj2: I'm hoping the UUID isn't wrong because it had the wrong fs type.  Come back if you have a problem
[14:23] <msnbot> I have problme with samba. i gave share to a volume. Its not read only. But I cant write from my windows machine. I need to share it with write permission
[14:23] <legend2440> jarle: in menu.lst  the # does not mean   comment
[14:23] <raven> How do I make grub detect my new Ubuntu install? I can only see my old install and my Windows install... :(
[14:23] <smm289> When I click on network my Vista machine is listed, when I click on the PC name in network it connects fine but the share folders are not visible.  If I type in the share name into the address bar the vista share displays fine.  Any ideas why I don't get a list of shared folders when I click on the vista machine under network.  If I do it the other way around, browse shares on ubuntu system from vista everything works fine
[14:24] <senectus> ﻿how can I force the cdrom to mount to /media/cdrom ??
[14:24] <jarle> legend2440: what does it mean then?
[14:24] <BatsShadow> Weird problem.  I have windows in VirtualBox setup with bridge networking br0 and my hardy networking is broken, but the vm networking works
[14:24] <nnull> anyone know what vanadium.canonical.com is? is this a update server or something ?
[14:25] <smm289> Once I type in the vista share name that folder is mounted fine and I can browse, just I would rather click on the share folder to mount it rather than type the share address directly
[14:26] <legend2440> jarle:  two ## are comments.  not sure why but  one # does not work as a coment.  anyway don't remove the one in front of groot
[14:26] <BatsShadow> sudo networking restart does not fix the problem
[14:27] <BatsShadow> I can ping local network machines, but not get out to the internet
[14:27] <BatsShadow> rebooting will fix it, but I'd like to track down the issue
[14:27] <cdoublejj1> hey jrib i have another really really big problem
[14:28]  * delcoyote hi
[14:29] <cdoublejj1> jrib my really big problem is that i don't know how to properly thank you for all your help
[14:29] <Morydd> I'm running ubuntu on a small server/firewall machine, after booting, it seems to lock up as far as input is concerned. I can ssh in but it doesn't accept keyboard input and the monitor stays blank (active, but blank) any guesses?
[14:29] <jrib> cdoublejj1: ha, no problem :)
[14:30] <cdoublejj1> jrib wait ithink it just booted off hda1 on instead of hdc1
[14:30] <jrib> cdoublejj1: k, check with 'mount'
[14:30] <venki> hi is there any onee to help over here
[14:30] <jarle> brahle: did you try downloading the driver from realtek and compile it yourself?
[14:30] <cdoublejj1> infact jrib i only see on hdd
[14:30] <erUSUL> Morydd: nothing on the machine logs?
[14:30] <cdoublejj1> not with mount that is
[14:31] <brahle> jarle: i did, but it gives me errors
[14:31] <jarle> brahle: I seem to remember having to apply a patch before compiling...
[14:32] <cdoublejj1> here jrib http://slexy.org/view/s20xBwue8N
[14:32] <cdoublejj1> it syas sda1
[14:32] <raven> How do I make grub detect my new Ubuntu install? I can only see my old install and my Windows install... :(
[14:32] <cdoublejj1> i'mm all likes what thu
[14:33] <amenado> BatsShadow-> lest the the host networking(ubuntu) is working you can not get to the internet
[14:33] <amenado> BatsShadow-> am even surprise you said you can ping locally..
[14:33] <BatsShadow> I am in the VM right now
[14:34] <fmrbpensador> good afternoon
[14:34] <amenado> raven  which partition did you install your grub?
[14:34] <jarle> brahle: I used http://www.jamesonwilliams.com/hardy-r8168.html with success earlier...
[14:34] <jrib> cdoublejj1: yep, it says /dev/sdb1 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[14:34] <BatsShadow> I can ping 192.168.1.249, but cannot ping google.com
[14:34] <Morydd> erUSUL: I'm not sure what (or where) I'm looking. I don't see anything that jumps out at me in dmesg
[14:34] <raven> amenado: sdc1
[14:34] <amenado> BatsShadow-> ping dont work on virtual box, i think it says it on the user guide if i remember right
[14:35] <BatsShadow> No, no
[14:35] <BatsShadow> from hardy
[14:35] <TJ13820> i'm having issues installing to my system, a compaq proliant ML530. I am insatling ubuntu server 8.04. I get an error that Ubuntu could not read information from my CD, yet it starts fine! It won't load anything after APT-CDROM-SETUP, the first of the packages. Any ideas?
[14:35] <BatsShadow> pretending the vm is a different machine, the vm network works, but the ubuntu network does not
[14:35] <venki> when i start my comp it cant display the progress  of ubuntu loading up my monitor displays Hz?
[14:35] <brahle> jarle: thanks, i'll try it out
[14:35] <amenado> raven then compare that with the contents of /boot/grub/device.map
[14:35] <cdoublejj1> jrib it it showing both drives as one because drive usage analyzer sasy i have 14 gigs, so i assume how was moved and linux and what not is still run off hda1 and hda1 is what i boot
[14:35] <cdoublejj1> is it*
[14:35] <BatsShadow> it's like the hardy default route is broken, but I see a route in the route table
[14:36] <amenado> !who| BatsShadow
[14:36] <jrib> cdoublejj1: yeah, you don't have c:, d:, etc. in linux.  There is just / and mount points for other partitions under /
[14:36] <raven> amenado: It only lists sda and sdb, not sdc. :S
[14:36] <cdoublejj1> jrib hahaha cool so now i have one big file system
[14:36] <amenado> raven there you go, thats your hint
[14:36] <cdoublejj1> thanks a bunch jrib
[14:36] <jrib> cdoublejj1: no problem
[14:36] <raven> amenado: So I should add sdc then?
[14:36] <BatsShadow> !tab
[14:36] <BatsShadow> oh, I see
[14:37] <amenado> raven, let me put it this way, the device.map has a purpose..and that is?  :P
[14:37] <selje> does anybody know how to set up ATI Radeon 2900 XT correctly?
[14:37] <BatsShadow> amenado: I have two interfaces - eth0 and br0 - so it seems br0 is working but eth0 cannot get to external addresses
[14:37] <raven> amenado: Touché. :P I'll try that, thanks.
[14:38] <TJ13820> i'm having issues installing to my system, a compaq proliant ML530. I am insatling ubuntu server 8.04. I get an error that Ubuntu could not read information from my CD, yet it starts fine! It won't load anything after APT-CDROM-SETUP, the first of the packages. Any ideas?
[14:38] <Kaapa> hello. Is ubuntu and kubuntu the same project with different DM or totally different forks?
[14:38] <amenado> BatsShadow-> okay, lets do this, on the HOST as oppose to guest, what does ifconfig shows for you, put it in pastebin
[14:38] <jrib> Kaapa: same project, different default set of packages
[14:39] <jrib> Kaapa: you can install both at the same time for example
[14:39] <Kaapa> jrib: thanks. Does it have a frontend gui for apt-get?
[14:39] <Valroque> Greetings, I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu using Wubi installer. The installation part completes in windows, then it tells me to reboot to finalize installation but I get the error: MBR cylinders is not equal to the BIOS ones. Also,MBR total sectors is greater than the BIOS one.
[14:39] <BatsShadow> http://www.mibbit.com/pb/ymzNLG
[14:39] <fmrbpensador> I have a pretty basic gtk artwork question. In case you feel it cannot be answered here, because it's not specific, could you point me to another IRC channel where this kind of stuff is discussed?
[14:39] <Kaapa> (I want to install it in wife's laptop, even her doesn't stand vista)
[14:39] <jrib> Kaapa: synaptic
[14:39] <raven> amenado: I added sdc and did grup setup but I still can't find my new install in /boot/grub/menu.lst :S
[14:39] <amenado> Kaapa-> nice to remember command lines, clicking on gui is easy to forget, whats behind those icons :)
[14:39] <jrib> Kaapa: there's also Add/Remove programs which is friendlier but less powerful
[14:40] <Kaapa> amenado: I'm a slack user, so I won't forget for sure :D  But not her
[14:41] <KRF> fmrbpensador, #gtk maybe?
[14:41] <amenado> raven  you may have to run some kind of grub update so the device.map matches to where grub installed stuff
[14:41] <Kaapa> jrib: thanks. One last thing: is Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 Remix stable?  I mean, as far as a beta goes...
[14:41] <fmrbpensador> KRF, here on Freenode?
[14:41] <Kaapa> and is it easy to upgrade later?
[14:41] <KRF> mh, no. almost empty
[14:41] <KRF> fmrbpensador, try channel listing, filter for gtk
[14:42] <jrib> Kaapa: I don't know what remix is, I think it's just based on the official kubuntu
[14:42] <raven> amenado: How would I do that then? :)
[14:42] <KRF> Kaapa, 8.04's kde3 is very stable
[14:42] <fmrbpensador> KRF, I'm not that experient on IRC, could you tell me how to do that filtering, the exact command and all that?
[14:42] <BatsShadow> Kaapa: remix kde4 was not very stable imo
[14:42] <amenado> BatsShadow-> let me do a search on my notes on this..i cant remember stuff
[14:42] <BatsShadow> amenado: thank you so much
[14:42] <KRF> Kaapa, yeah. just dont use kde4 (yet)
[14:43] <nnull> ive got both syslogd and klogd running, do i need both?
[14:43] <jrib> Kaapa: after googling, ignore what I said except the stuff before the comma :)
[14:43] <amenado> raven getting into grub and issuing root ..the normal steps..i cant remember the step sequence either
[14:43] <Kaapa> and one last question, perhaps the most difficult: should I choose ubuntu or kubuntu for the wife's laptop? I personally prefer kde over gnome, but the most important part is easy of use
[14:43] <Theaxiom_> I am going to scream, I have been trying to get vnc to work on ubuntu for 4 hours now. Every time I try to connect to tightvnc, it asks for the password, then I click ok and it says connection closed. Any ideas whats going on?
[14:43] <amenado> Kaapa-> myself, for the prettyness and closeness to windows,i choose KDE..
[14:43] <raven> amenado: I did root (hd1,5) and then setup (hd1)... Maybe I should do setup hd2 or something? I'm not sure
[14:44] <BatsShadow> Kaapa: I find Kubuntu to be not quite as well put together.  If I wanted KDE, I would use a different distro </blasphemy>
[14:44] <jrib> Kaapa: I'd let her play with both livecd's and choose the one she likes better
[14:44] <Valroque> Anyone? I found grub4dos 0.4.4 and downloaded it, but I'm not sure where to put it to replace the default 0.4.3 version which is default. There is no directory that I can see that has any grub files which I can replace
[14:44] <Theaxiom_> I am seriously going to blow up my computer, anyone know how to get VNC working on ubuntu?
[14:44] <amenado> raven, well make sure the partition matches to what you put ont that root and setup
[14:44] <Kaapa> BatsShadow: well, I don't think distro's are tied to DM...
[14:44] <Kaapa> the installer cd is also a livecd?
[14:45] <jrib> Kaapa: the desktop cd is both, yes
[14:45] <sevensun> hi guys, HOW TO get the Xvid codec for Totem? I was tryin' to watch an .avi file but Totem is unable to read it coz "Video codec 'XviD' is nod handled". I searched for it using Synaptic but it looks like I already got it. WHAT'S GOING ON?
[14:45] <sevensun> Kaapa: yes it is
[14:45] <amenado> Theaxiom_-> if you hang on for a few..maybe we can assist, grab a cup of joe, and come back okay?
[14:45] <starenka> amenado: why dont you use desktop sharing or ssh?
[14:45] <erUSUL> Kaapa: finding how tos and tips on the web will be easier if she uses stock ubuntu
[14:45] <KRF> fmrbpensador, try #gtk+
[14:45] <fmrbpensador> thanks
[14:45] <fmrbpensador> KRF, thanks
[14:45] <BatsShadow> Kaapa: Yes, that's true also
[14:45] <Kaapa> I don't have partitions made yet. Does the installer bring gparted or something like that?
[14:45] <Theaxiom_> amenado: Sorry 4 hours of this makes me kinda edgy lol
[14:45] <starenka> amenado: sry, m8
[14:45] <raven> amenado: I'm not sure what you mean. My grub is setup on (hd1,5) atm. Should I still do setup for my new linux install that's on (hd2,0)?
[14:45] <erUSUL> sevensun: install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[14:45] <KRF> weird, #qt got ~200 users ;)
[14:46] <Kaapa> erUSUL: that's a very important advantage...
[14:46] <starenka> Theaxiom_: why dont you use desktop sharing or ssh?
[14:46] <jrib> Kaapa: yeah, you can partition during install
[14:46] <Theaxiom_> starenka: The other person only has windows
[14:46] <amenado> raven you can have an entry on your existing grub, to point to the newer install
[14:46] <riegersn> Where can I find the PeerGuardian lists to use with Deluge? Anyone know?
[14:46] <sevensun> erUSUL: is it a package?
[14:46] <erUSUL> sevensun: yep
[14:47] <starenka> Theaxiom_: desktop sharing works with vnc...
[14:47] <Theaxiom_> starenka: How do I do that? Vino?
[14:47] <starenka> Theaxiom_: well, at leat krdc in KDE does
[14:47] <raven> amenado: How would I add that automagically? Or do I need to manually add that?
[14:47] <amenado> raven manually add it
[14:47] <Kaapa> wThe installatino CD is only one CD? Seems so little (even slack has 3 cd's)
[14:47] <sevensun> erUSUL: I'll watch for it. But why doesn't Totem just watch the net for it? It did it for flv codec
[14:48] <BatsShadow> raven: manually add it to the menu.lst file in your grub install folder
[14:48] <raven> amenado: Do I need to know kernel and initrd? How do I find that?
[14:48] <starenka> Theaxiom_: http://www.debianadmin.com/remote-desktop-sharing-in-ubuntu.html
[14:48] <amenado> raven yes, those are the entries for the newer linux that needs to be inserted on the menu.lst
[14:49] <raven> amenado: And how do I find that?
[14:49] <BatsShadow> raven: you should be able to figure it out by looking at the old install lines and looking at the new filesystem and adjusting
[14:49] <amenado> raven look where you put your new linux at..
[14:49] <raven> BatsShadow: Thanks, I'll try. :)
[14:50] <sevensun> erUSUL: oh I forgot: I got xubuntu not ubuntu :P
[14:50] <amenado> BatsShadow-> i cant seem to find the lil notes i have on the quirkyness of bridging versus nat on virtual box
[14:50] <BatsShadow> amenado: ok.  Is there a different irc channel that maybe would specialize?
[14:51] <nnull> ive got both syslogd and klogd running, do i need both?
[14:51] <amenado> BatsShadow-> perhaps #virtualbox, but lets see if we can try to work it out here, and then if we are stuck you can ask them there over
[14:51] <petersaints> For an  Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 (2.2GHz FSB 800MHz) / 2GB RAM DDR2-667MHz/ ATI Mobility Radeon HD2600 256MB DDR2 laptop what version of Ubuntu would you recommend? 32-bit or 64-bit? All this taking in account the current 64-bit support leve!
[14:51] <raven> amenado: Ok, found all but root=UUID=***, how do I find that or should that be the same as the old install?
[14:51] <BatsShadow> amenado: do you recall if the br0 and eth0 should have the same ip?
[14:51] <selje> no help with my ATI problem:(
[14:52] <amenado> BatsShadow-> you HOST  route -n  results please paste on pastebing
[14:52] <nnull> are avahi-daemon and windbind the same thing?
[14:52] <nnull> asin perform the same purpose
[14:52] <amenado> BatsShadow-> because they are bridge, they should be, both ends of a bridge should be same ip address
[14:53] <amenado> raven each partitions have a unique uuid,  go see /dev/device  dir
[14:53] <BatsShadow> amenado: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/ark1kN - added to the bottom
[14:53] <abhi_> petersaints, : there is not much difference running 64bit and 32 bit. i will say go for 32bit so will get wide range of applications which are not available in 64bit.
[14:53] <starenka> Theaxiom_: btw you can access ssh from windoze machina w/ putty
[14:54] <amenado> BatsShadow-> from the HOST, can you ping 192.168.1.254 ?
[14:54] <Theaxiom_> starenka: I am trying to show clients stuff on my desktop while talking on skype
[14:54] <BatsShadow> yes
[14:54] <amenado> BatsShadow-> can you ping your ISP name server?
[14:54] <Theaxiom_> starenka: he has raw ports blocked on his machine, how do I configure it for a different port?
[14:54] <haggis> Hi all
[14:55] <BatsShadow> amenado: I am using opendns and my router is my nameserver
[14:55] <starenka> Theaxiom_: ohkay, but desktop sharing works, like a charm (well not for watching movies, of coarse) in KDE, so i guess vino will serve same way in gnome
[14:55] <Theaxiom_> starenka: So how do I change it to a different port?
[14:55] <petersaints> abhii_ Yeah that's what I was thinking... In pratice for a desktop (well in this case laptop :P) use 64-bit only advantage is if you have over 4GB of RAM!! BTW knowing that there's now lot's of 64-bit capable computers is 64-bit version getting a huge boost in user base??
[14:56] <amenado> BatsShadow-> what is the nameserver ip address...not the localized 192.168.x.x..
[14:56] <starenka> Theaxiom_: dunno, but you can port forward on router meanwhile :))
[14:56] <BatsShadow> 208.67.222.222
[14:56] <Theaxiom_> starenka: thanks
[14:56] <BatsShadow> amenado: attempting to ping now....
[14:56] <haggis> Can some 1 look at my xorg i am try to get my rez set to 1680*1050 i am using Intel GMA 950 card it will change to the rez on Sys-screen res buit does not look  right m,y xorg is http://paste.ubuntu.com/42165/
[14:57] <starenka> Theaxiom_: http://www.bani.com.br/lang/en/2007/04/25/hidden-features-of-vino-remote-desktop-access/
[14:57] <BatsShadow> amenado: didn't work
[14:57] <starenka> !google | Theaxiom_
[14:57] <Theaxiom_> starenka: Thanks
[14:57] <amenado> BatsShadow-> okay, what is your entry in your /etc/resolv.conf  ?
[14:57] <Batmanifestdesti> Hello
[14:57] <amenado> Theaxiom_-> you want just single user to view your desktop or multiple?
[14:58] <Batmanifestdesti> Could I have some advice?
[14:58] <Theaxiom_> amenado: I don't care, as long as someone can see my desktop
[14:58] <paolonet> ciao
[14:58] <Theaxiom_> amenado: 4 hours is pissing me off with no progress
[14:58] <amenado> Theaxiom_-> just hang on...til i finished with the other guy..
[14:59] <starenka> Theaxiom_: so vino is not working, then? you got 5900 or other opened?
[14:59] <Theaxiom_> amenado: I think I got it
[14:59] <Valroque> Is anyone able to help me?
[14:59] <Batmanifestdesti> I want to have Ubuntu on Virtual Box, and so far I've used the "try without changing anything" option, but I have this weird phobia that by installing it, some weird error's going to pop up and turn my whole computer into Ubuntu, and my mom would NOT like that
[14:59] <Theaxiom_> amenado: I got it, finally thanks
[14:59] <haggis> Can some 1 look at my xorg i am try to get my rez set to 1680*1050 i am using Intel GMA 950 card it will change to the rez on Sys-screen res buit does not look  right m,y xorg is http://paste.ubuntu.com/42165/
[14:59] <starenka> Theaxiom_: try to scan the ports with nmap or so
[14:59] <jrib> Batmanifestdesti: if you are inside virtualbox, ubuntu can't do anything to your computer
[14:59] <raven> Hm, I added everything but I still get Error 17, cannot mount partition in grub. :/
[14:59] <Batmanifestdesti> really?
[15:00] <Batmanifestdesti> and if it's fully installed, will it run faster?
[15:00] <jrib> Batmanifestdesti: probably
[15:00] <Batmanifestdesti> yay!
[15:00] <Batmanifestdesti> thanks, bye
[15:00] <jrib> Batmanifestdesti: eh?
[15:00] <Batmanifestdesti> that's all I needed to know
[15:00] <BatsShadow_> amenado: I'm back
[15:00] <BatsShadow_> that was weird
[15:00] <jrib> Batmanifestdesti: by "fully installed" you meant outside of virtualbox in its own partition right?
[15:00] <jrib> oh well
[15:00] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> what was weird?
[15:01] <amenado> raven can you paste your menu.lst in pastebin?
[15:01] <BatsShadow_> my whole vm computer shut off when I pasted some junk by mistake
[15:01] <raven> amenado: Sure, just a sec
[15:01] <paolonet> irc://irc.barmy-army.org/bobblehead-warez
[15:02] <jrib> paolonet: do not paste that here anymore.  Stay on-topic
[15:02] <BatsShadow_> amenado: I was trying to paste my resolve.conf I believe
[15:02] <BatsShadow_> amenado: nameserver 192.168.1.254
[15:03] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> and that nameserver does not seem to resolv your outside addresses, so replace it with your ISP name server address
[15:03] <Valroque> Greetings, I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu using Wubi installer. The installation part completes in windows, then it tells me to reboot to finalize installation but I get the error: MBR cylinders is not equal to the BIOS ones. Also,MBR total sectors is greater than the BIOS one.
[15:03] <BatsShadow_> amenado: No, it does resolve
[15:03] <whileimhere> Hi. I just upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and I tried to install XMMS but it does not allow me to. Is xmms no longer available and if not why is it in synaptic still?
[15:03] <BatsShadow_> amenado: I just can't route there
[15:03] <k0rnz> anyone here know any good internet cafes in Manhattan NYC?
[15:03] <smee> wouldn't use wubi if you really care about a good install
[15:04] <cathberg> hello. I have a problem with hardy. My CD/DVD drive is not been recognized byt Ubuntu. This happened for less than a month ago
[15:04] <Valroque> I used it in the past, and it didn't give me any problems
[15:04] <k0rnz> anyone know any good linux friendly internet cafes in manhattan nyc?
[15:04] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> can you do a  dig  www.makingthings.com from that ubuntu?
[15:04] <cathberg> The drive is not mounted and hal (and hence gnome) seem not to be able to detect the block device
[15:04] <starenka> cathberg: i guess it is: look  sudo apt-cache search xmms
[15:05] <BatsShadow_> amenado: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/C66xIj
[15:05] <cathberg> it's a Samsung CDRW/DVD SN-324B
[15:05] <starenka> cathberg: fook, sorry, bad buddy :))
[15:05] <erUSUL> cathberg: appears on dmesg??
[15:05] <raven> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m7855276d :)
[15:05] <starenka> whileimhere: i guess it is: look  sudo apt-cache search xmms
[15:05] <Valroque> I thought ubuntu wubi was supported in this channel, or is there a seperate channel for it?
[15:05] <brahle> jarle: it didn't work
[15:05] <starenka> whileimhere: so all you need to do is: sudo apt-get install xmms
[15:06] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> the route table you pasted earlier is from ubuntu host right?
[15:06] <erUSUL> whileimhere: it is no longer aviable switch to audacious for example
[15:06] <jrib> Valroque: it's here
[15:06] <BatsShadow_> amenado: yes
[15:06] <cathberg> erUSUL, yes it seems to appear there: [   75.253714] ata1.01: ATAPI: Samsung CD-RW/DVD-ROM SN-324B, U101, max UDMA/33
[15:06] <cathberg> [   75.567604] scsi 0:0:1:0: CD-ROM            SAMSUNG  CDRW/DVD SN-324B U101 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[15:06] <brahle> jarle: it seems to me it is intended for people who can't get Ethernet working (I can do that)
[15:06] <erUSUL> cathberg: weird can you mount things manually?
[15:06] <cathberg> the problem is that no DVD gets mounted
[15:06] <cathberg> no, haven't been succesful
[15:07] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> do you have a firewall active?  sudo iptables -vL  to confirm the rules
[15:07] <erUSUL> cathberg: any error msg when you try?
[15:07] <jrib> Valroque: but I don't think many regulars use it, so their forums (see website) may be a better place to go
[15:07] <whileimhere> starenka: Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[15:07] <starenka> whileimhere: sorry sudo apt-get install xmms2
[15:07] <jrib> !xmms | whileimhere
[15:07] <Valroque> jrib: The version of grub ubuntu uses when I get the error is 0.4.3 I believe, and there's a new version out that I read may fix the problem. But I checked my HD and can't find 0.4.3 to replace it with 0.4.4, what's the problem?
[15:07] <Valroque> I read 0.4.4 may fix the problem
[15:08] <BatsShadow_> amenado: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/77JO3W
[15:08] <cathberg> erUSUL, I do not know which block device it is using since gnome-device-manager is not giving any hints..
[15:08] <whileimhere> Ohhh Thanks.
[15:08] <erUSUL> starenka: whileimhere xmms2 is the *no* *gui* next version of xmms it need separate front ends
[15:08] <whileimhere> I liked XMMS because it was small and had great skins non of the other players do.
[15:08] <starenka> oh
[15:08] <jrib> whileimhere: audacious is very similar
[15:08] <erUSUL> starenka: whileimhere it is not a drop in replacement forxmms for that try audacious as i already said
[15:09] <starenka> sorry, for missinfo...
[15:09] <amenado> raven that seems okay.. you have default set to 4, which if i count right is line 150 ?
[15:09] <whileimhere> erUSUL: downloading now. Thanks for the tip.
[15:09] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> that looks good too
[15:09] <starenka> whileimhere: anyway, try amarok.. :) rox hard
[15:09] <erUSUL> cathberg: probably /dev/scd0
[15:09] <BatsShadow_> amenado: I can reboot the router I guess ?
[15:10] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> what router?
[15:10] <BatsShadow_> amenado: the hardware default gateway
[15:10] <raven> amenado: Windows is set to default but that shouldn't matter, should it? The problem is that when I chose 8.04.1 it says Error 17, cannot mount partition
[15:10] <cathberg> sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 -t auto
[15:10] <cathberg> mount: No medium found
[15:10] <BatsShadow_> amenado: If my routes are right, no firewall, and I can get to local machines, what else could it be?
[15:10] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> oh okay, yeah try that, and lets see what ip address you still get..
[15:11] <BatsShadow_> amenado: my dhcp is hard-coded to the mac in the router setup
[15:11] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> when you say you can get to the local machines how? from guest? how?
[15:11] <erUSUL> cathberg: but there is a cdrom in there... happens with a spcific cd/dvd or with everything you tried? could be hardware error?
[15:12] <BatsShadow_> amenado: ping, ssh
[15:12] <amenado> raven the entry default 4 matters
[15:12] <john_help_radeon> Hey guys, I've got some issues with my ATi Radeon on Hardy Heron, Im getting a black screen before logon after config, I've probably had 8 or 9 fresh installs, and tried every tutorial in the book.
[15:12] <raven> amenado: Isn't that only what it picks when I wait out the timeout?
[15:12] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> from guest os? you can ping the local machine?
[15:12] <whileimhere> Where do skins go for audacious?
[15:13] <john_help_radeon> One common thread is that I can NEVER get rid of the MESA driver
[15:13] <starenka> john_help_radeon: you tried proprietary dirvers from ati?
[15:13] <amenado> raven yes when it times out
[15:13] <BatsShadow_> amenado: yes
[15:13] <cathberg> erUSUL, this was not a problem with hardy generally, but some update make that bug appear
[15:13] <raven> amenado: And I don't wait it out. I just pick 8.04.1 and then it says cannot mount
[15:13] <john_help_radeon> Star, yes I have, in addition to the open source drivers, etc.
[15:13] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> from the guest, what is the the result of route -ran  ?
[15:13] <nnull> guys on my previous install i setup my cube to slowly fade back in from tranparency when shifted between, i cant find the option anyone help?
[15:14] <erUSUL> cathberg: can you confirm it as a kernel problem? booting an older kernel?
[15:14] <nnull> in ccsm
[15:14] <BatsShadow_> amenado: guest is windows
[15:14] <john_help_radeon> That doesn't neccesarily mean I did it all right, but I tried every option from every tutorial I could find
[15:14] <flajann2> I am not happy with the upgrade from Ubuntu 7.x to 8.0.4 -- it REMOVED a number of packages I depend on, including MySQL! Gosh, darn it --- maybe I should go back to using Fedora.
[15:15] <erUSUL> flajann2: how did you upgraded?
[15:15] <USERNAME> can someone help me?
[15:15] <haggis> Whats the best way to see if the intel drivers are working for my intel GMA 950are working
[15:15] <amenado> raven it may have not installed properly, if you can boot to your linux and type grub then do a find  root   it should also list what is in your sdc or hd2
[15:15] <koray> hi
[15:15] <flajann2> And it lists MySQL 5.1 in its database, but that package came up as"unavalilable"
[15:15] <USERNAME> -_-
[15:15] <USERNAME> will someone help me?
[15:15] <raven> amenado: I am in my on Linux install atm so sure, I can do that
[15:15] <funkyHat> !ask | USERNAME
[15:15] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> yes you can use route -ran or route print i believe to see the route
[15:15] <flajann2> erUSUL, I used the upgrade option from the gui program
[15:16] <USERNAME> is zday playable yet?
[15:16] <cathberg> let me check erUSUL
[15:16] <starenka> john_help_radeon: all i can say: i used these and it works (hd 2600 pro) http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[15:16] <raven> amenado: find root = file not found
[15:16] <erUSUL> flajann2: weird never had such problems upgrading with the upgrade manager...
[15:16] <iCEifer> hello, I am trying to generate a gpg key and keep getting "gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available and gpg: [stdin]: sign+encrypt failed: secret key not available" any ideas?
[15:16] <haggis> Whats the best way to see if the intel drivers are working for my intel GMA 950are working ?
[15:17] <john_help_radeon> Star, same here, I used those with three different methods of install and I get a black screen
[15:17] <flajann2> Yeah, package is just not there anymore -- I guess I should just reinstall afresh every time
[15:17] <amenado> raven i think  the command is  find  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:17] <BatsShadow_> amenado: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/5cqXkr
[15:17] <john_help_radeon> Or in the best case, I get a white screen AFTER logon, but still, never get anywhere
[15:17] <erUSUL> iCEifer: what's the command line you are using ?
[15:17] <flajann2> I always seem to have major issues when I attempt to upgrade from one major to another.
[15:17] <raven> amenado: (hd1,5) (which I already knew :P)
[15:17] <john_help_radeon> and regardless, I still have fglrxinfo saying I have the MESA drivers
[15:17] <flajann2> I was hoping Ubuntu got it right, but alas....
[15:18] <starenka> john_help_radeon: i remember getting this while "logging out", i just installed newest kernel and newest dirvers... does dmesg says something?
[15:18] <MrNaz> what's the command to unpack a .tar.bz2 file?
[15:18] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> you have two gateways? .254 and .103  on windows?
[15:18] <jrib> flajann2: you should be filing a bug
[15:18] <cathberg> ok erUSUL note this:  $ uname -a gives Linux hjemme 2.6.24-19-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Aug 21 02:08:03 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:18] <erUSUL> MrNaz: tar xf file.tar.bz2
[15:18] <BatsShadow_> amenado: Windows thinks it's own IP address is 103.  I don't know anything about it being a gateway
[15:18] <cathberg> Iæ'm going to restart with 2.26.17 which used to work or any other kernel I find
[15:19] <iCEifer> erUSUL, gpg --gnupg -sea -r 035D6B1D
[15:19] <BatsShadow_> amenado: from vm windows, I can ping the host, but the host cannot ping 103, it can only ping the tap0 address - 99
[15:19] <flajann2> jrib, probably, except I am not sure I can describe precisely how to reproduce it -- being that I no longer have the state of the machine before the upgrade!
[15:19] <Qubex> Nobody owns any port -
[15:19] <BatsShadow_> amenado: not sure if that means anything
[15:19] <erUSUL> cathberg: any specific reason you are using rt kernel and not generic?
[15:19] <BatsShadow_> amenado: host is 102
[15:19] <john_help_radeon> Star, I already have the newest kernel and drivers, but let me check dmeseg
[15:19] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> i know there is some quirkyness on the virtualbox regarding pinging and bridging, but i cant recall at the moment, im not awake yet :P
[15:20] <cathberg> not really.. now that you mention it, I have no clue
[15:20] <flajann2> I've had the generic kernel crash on my machine -- so I use rt instead.
[15:20] <jrib> flajann2: logs are made during upgrades.  Someone will tell you how to get them
[15:20] <haggis> how do i install intel GMA 950 drivers ?
[15:20] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> lets ask the #virtualbox folks...to refresh my memory too
[15:20] <flajann2> jrib, ah -- good point
[15:20] <BatsShadow_> Ok, I'm on the way
[15:21] <erUSUL> iCEifer: to generate a new key is "gpg --gen-key" where did you got that other comman line from?
[15:21] <john_help_radeon> dmesg says everything is fine
[15:21] <cathberg> erUSUL, I guess it came with a ubuntu studio installation I tried for a couple of hours....
[15:22] <iCEifer> erUSUL, from freenode's web site
[15:22] <john_help_radeon> The only errors are for my wireless card, which I don't use
[15:22] <amenado> raven and in hd0  you do have /boot/  directory?
[15:22] <cathberg> I will remover the rt kernels and test
[15:22] <cathberg> BRB
[15:22] <flajann2> has anyone else notice instabilities with the generic kernel -- just locking up?
[15:22] <starenka> john_help_radeon: fok
[15:22] <amenado> raven rather in hd2  you do have /boot/  directory?
[15:23] <raven> amenado: Yes, I can mount my (hd2,0) which is my new Ubuntu install and there is a /boot/ there
[15:23] <k0rnz> flajann2, yeah I have, I recently did an install and experienced similiar problems
[15:23] <cathberg> erUSUL, thx for yoiur comments. I'll try it and come back as soon as I can
[15:24] <flajann2> I used to build kernels under Fedora, but doing that on Ubuntu would break the restricted drivers.
[15:24] <erUSUL> iCEifer: you have to generate first your keys and once you diid that you have to upload the keys to a keyserver and then use the cli you read
[15:24] <erUSUL> cathberg: no problem good luck
[15:24] <amenado> raven and in that /boot/  dir is where you put your initrd and vmlinuz kernel for the new?
[15:24] <flajann2> k0rnz. so I am not just going nuts -- Ubuntu has a QA problem!
[15:24] <cathberg> flajann2, you have to do it the debian way
[15:24] <erUSUL> iCEifer: read a basic gpg how to to know what you are doing
[15:24] <raven> amenado: Of course. :)
[15:25] <flajann2> cathberg, I loose a lot of control that way!
[15:25] <k0rnz> flajann2, i had similiar experience with trying to install legacy nvidia drivers using Envy and trying to do exactly what you tried
[15:25] <john_help_radeon> I'm just really wishing I had bought an nVidia card
[15:25] <iCEifer> erUSUL, okay, thanks :)
[15:25] <raven> amenado: The main problem is (I think...) that for some reason grub can't find and/or mount (hd2)
[15:25] <amenado> raven i just want to confirm, i had done it myself before, where i thought i had it in /boot of that partition, and came to find out its in /
[15:26] <john_help_radeon> Im gonna try envy for the hell of it
[15:26] <cathberg> true, but you lose support for restricted drivers in almost any other way you do it...It's all dependencies, it has to work that way
[15:26] <amenado> raven try not to use uuid just the old way of /dev/hdd2
[15:26] <flajann2> k0rnz, yes -- all kinds of nasty issues with legacy nvidia drivers -- found out the hard way that the restricted drivers are directly tied to the specific kernels. The dependency mechanism doesn't catch this, but should.
[15:27] <amenado> raven just for kicks, sometimes grub does not the uuid in time to see it
[15:27] <Robojoint> when i ssh into an Ubuntu box & start a program, is there anyway to add text to the window title?
[15:27] <raven> amenado: So I should use root=/dev/hdd2 then?
[15:27] <staquix> not that i know much about it but the best way i have found to handle my old gf3 is with the envy script
[15:28] <amenado> raven yes
[15:28] <BatsShadow_> amenado: it's quiet over there
[15:29] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> yeah, lets be patient :)
[15:29] <raven> amenado: Ok, rebooting and trying. brb. :)
[15:29] <Myth_> what with this
[15:29] <Myth_>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:30] <saxin> Myth_: close synaptic
[15:30] <Myth_> hahah
[15:30] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> am recompiling my virtualbox because i upgrade..hang on
[15:30] <cathberg> flajann2, yes this happens as long as you use a debianized kernel (meaning build your kernel and use dpkg for installation).I have NVIDIA myself and have gone thorugh that pain (GeForce 440).. Good luck anyways
[15:30] <Myth_> saxin tnx
[15:31] <amenado> BatsShadow_-> i have to reboot..does not like to have NMI watchdog either active or at least initialized
[15:32] <theunixgeek> Would anyone like to do the favor of downloading the build-essential and gtk dev library packages for me? :)
[15:33] <Prokofiev> Hi
[15:33] <jrib> theunixgeek: how would that help you?
[15:33] <theunixgeek> My Ubuntu PC doesn't have internet access and so I thought I could pass a few packages to my pen drive and install them like that.
[15:33] <Prokofiev> Everyone
[15:33] <mark__> does anyone know a specific python irc?
[15:33] <theunixgeek> jrib:  ^
[15:33] <Aturner44> Can any help me install ndiswrapper 1.53? I have tried but I keep getting weird errors, I have carefully checked the instructions on how to install more than once but it still doesnt work, I am currently using ubuntu 8.04 via wubi because i'm kind of new to ubuntu. Thankyou.
[15:33] <theunixgeek> mark__: #python
[15:33] <binary_> Hey guys
[15:33] <theunixgeek> mark__: type this right now: /join #python
[15:33] <Jakke77> why you dont download now
[15:33] <jrib> !offline | theunixgeek
[15:33] <theunixgeek> then you'll join the python chat room
[15:33] <theunixgeek> *channel
[15:33] <mark__> sorry I am new to irc, how do I reach #python?
[15:33] <theunixgeek> Jakke77: I don't know how to download packages offline
[15:34] <theunixgeek> mark__: I just told you
[15:34] <jpds> mark__: /join #python
[15:34] <binary_> I was wondering if anybody could explain whether ubuntu's installer is or is NOT free software?
[15:34] <jrib> theunixgeek: there's also apt-cd or packages.ubuntu.com.  Note that build-essential is on the repository from the install cd
[15:34] <binary_> Because I heard it wasn't :-S
[15:34] <Prokofiev> Hello
[15:34] <Jakke77> you arent offline now
[15:34] <theunixgeek> jrib: it is!!!???
[15:34] <staquix> anyone have any ideas as to why my DNS lookups are taking a long time? Any log files or cahces i should clear?
[15:34] <theunixgeek> Jakke77: I'm on my Mac ;)
[15:35] <Jakke77> and
[15:35] <theunixgeek> jrib: btw, thanks for that link
[15:35] <Prokofiev> Where are you from guys
[15:35] <raven23> I still get Error 17, cannot mount partition! :(
[15:36] <BatsShadow_> Prokofiev: too much traffic just to chat here
[15:36] <theunixgeek> Jakke77: and?
[15:36] <Jakke77> forget it
[15:36] <theunixgeek> BatsShadow_, Prokofiev start a private message session then :)
[15:36] <theunixgeek> type /msg Prokofiev or /msg BatsShadow_
[15:36] <theunixgeek> :)
[15:37] <Aturner44> theunixgeek: Can you help me install some software onto ubuntu please?
[15:38] <theunixgeek> Aturner44: sure
[15:38] <theunixgeek> what do you want to install?
[15:38] <Aturner44> ndiswrapper 1.53
[15:38] <staquix> anyone know were the file is that contains dns information?
[15:38] <Prokofiev> sudo apt install
[15:38] <BatsShadow_> staquix: /etc/resolve.conf
[15:39] <Prokofiev> sudo apt install ndiswrapper
[15:39] <Aturner44> I tried sudo apt install but it said "E: unable to find packafe"
[15:39] <Prokofiev> type in the terminal
[15:39] <Aturner44> package*
[15:39] <Prokofiev> Maybe source
[15:40] <Prokofiev> My English is terrible
[15:40] <Aturner44> I tried downloading and compiling it my self as well and I got errors there too :\
[15:41] <TheMafia> does hardy server require a /boot partition?
[15:41] <eross> ﻿fyi, last day of sale for savage 2 for $10, downloading ubuntu 64-bit version now =)
[15:41] <jrib> TheMafia: no
[15:41] <Aturner44> Prokofiev, do you have to have an internet connection for sudo apt install to work?
[15:42] <erudite> he's on irc isn't he?
[15:42] <erudite> lol
[15:42] <TheMafia> jrib, will it install grub if I am installing to a raid 5 md0 device?
[15:42] <jrib> TheMafia: don't know
[15:42] <BatsShadow_> Prokofiev: maybe you need package ndiswrapper-common
[15:43] <TheMafia> will hardy server install grub if I am installing to a raid 5 md0 device? and no /boot partition?
[15:43] <Aturner44> BataShadow_: Where can I get that package?
[15:43] <BatsShadow_> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[15:44] <Aturner44> I tried that, it just says unable to find package :S
[15:44] <ckyle> how do I chmod a file so it has execute permissions...?
[15:44] <carandraug> ckyle: chmod a+x filename
[15:44] <staquix> BataShadow_: any ideas on a slow dns issue?
[15:44] <ckyle> chmod octmode filename
[15:44] <jrib> !permissions > ckyle
[15:44] <BatsShadow_> staquix: nope, sory
[15:44] <joaopinto> !aptlock
[15:44] <ckyle> but i don't know what octalmode is
[15:44] <LjL> trek1: this channel doesn't have any bots serving files.
[15:45] <ckyle> carandraug: thx much
[15:45] <Aturner44> brb
[15:45] <Aquahallic> afternoon folks
[15:45] <hubuntu> erUSUL, hei there. Gthe device seems to be recognized by hal
[15:45] <hubuntu> but still does not get mount
[15:45] <erUSUL> hubuntu: :|
[15:47] <ckyle> do you know how I filter out "ubottu" in irc?
[15:47] <Aquahallic> setup new install of hardy.... compiz isn't starting up by default... I added a CLI in sessions startup but it's still not starting... if I fire it off from CLI I get an error about laptop and ATI... but if I use the compiz-fusion-icon and reload it comes up....any idea how I can get this to start automagically upon login??
[15:47] <hubuntu> I am running a 2.6.24-19kernel, shall I try 2.6.24-18 ?
[15:47] <LjL> ckyle: i don't suggest you do that, as the bot is used to hand out generally helpful information. but look up the /ignore command.
[15:48] <hubuntu> now not rt, but generic
[15:48] <hubuntu> erUSUL, I will restart with -18 and see what happens
[15:48] <Aturner44> Can anyone tell me if you need an internet connection for sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-common to work? if so, how can i get the package without an internet connection, can i download it on another computer and transfer it over maybe?
[15:49] <guren> Aquahallic: have you been using emerald?
[15:49] <Aquahallic> guren, I am using emerald.. yes
[15:49] <jrib> !offline | Aturner44
[15:49] <guren> Aquahallic: do you have the compizconfig settings manager?
[15:49] <jrib> Aturner44: also see apt-cd and packages.ubuntu.com
[15:50] <Aquahallic> guren, yes
[15:50] <guren> Aquahallic: Ok, have you tried editing the window decoration options?.. there has to be a command option there
[15:51] <Aquahallic> guren,  you lost me there
[15:51] <TheKiNG> k, whats the package name for mysql devel libs
[15:52] <guren> Aquahallic: OK.. go to compiz config settings manager
[15:52] <guren> Aquahallic: then search for Window Decoration
[15:52] <Aquahallic> yes.. and I see in there emerald --replace
[15:52] <guren> Aquahallic: try adding a & at the end of the command
[15:52] <Aquahallic> from CLI
[15:53] <Craig> Can anyone tell me if you need an active internet connection for "sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-common" to work? and if so is there anyway i can download the package on another computer with an active connection and transfer the package over? Thankyou.
[15:53] <guren> Aquahallic: no, just in that option
[15:53] <colyte> How to disable the loading of a certain module during bootup from the livecd?
[15:53] <LjL> Craig: err, because when you "apt-get" a program, APT has to download that program in the first place
[15:54] <LjL> !offline | Craig
[15:54] <guren> Aquahallic: it seems that your window decoration is not starting because it is not running in the foreground
[15:54] <Aquahallic> guren, compiz starts if I use the compiz fusion icon...
[15:54]  * Craig prays that this works
[15:54] <Aquahallic> guren, no I can get it to start fine.. just not on login.. I have to manually start it with the compiz fusion icon package
[15:55] <guren> Aquahallic: yes, but by adding  "emerald --replace &"  in the window decoration option, it will start by itself
[15:56] <Craig> LjL, I'm not sure what distribution I have, I used wubi 8.04 to install :S
[15:56] <Aquahallic> nope.. didn't work.... when I open a CLI and type.. 'compiz' it says... found laptop running ATI falling back to metacity
[15:56] <LjL> Craig: you have Hardy, 8.04. use the first method
[15:57] <wols> Aquahallic: fglrx?
[15:57] <nnull> im trying to change the ubuntu loading screen (after grub) ive been on gnome-look but im confused are these splash screen or is the gnome one splash screens? ;s
[15:57] <Aquahallic> wols, no...radeon
[15:58] <Prokofiev> Are there any Chinese?
[15:58] <Craig> LjL I cant do that because my laptop (what im on at the moment) is windows :S
[15:58] <Alkali> nnull, you mean the box that says gnome-volume-manager and such when the desktop loads?
[15:58] <LjL> Craig: well reboot into ubuntu and do it...?
[15:58] <Craig> and I need ndiswrapper on my desktop so i can get my wireless adaptor working.
[15:58] <nnull> nar the one that says ubuntu with a black background and a loading bar
[15:58] <nnull> Alkali, ^
[15:59] <guren> Aquahallic: sorry.. i'm not a big fan of ATI so it never occured to me :)
[15:59] <LjL> Craig, the script generated by Synaptic should probably work in Windows, with some tweaks and wget installed... i think. not sure about the details.
[15:59] <hubuntu> erUSUL, ok... I am on 2.6.24-18-generic and the device is recognized by gnome-device-manager as in block device and access control /dev/scd0
[15:59] <Craig> not really possible either, im borrowing this laptop of my mum and she will kill me if i go messing around with it :S
[15:59] <Aquahallic> heh... me either but I'm stuck with it in this laptop...:(
[15:59] <Alkali> nnull, thats usplash.  That may or may not have usplash themes but the splash backgrounds are for the gnome desktop
[16:00] <nnull> ah ok
[16:00] <carandraug> !cn | Prokofiev
[16:00] <Craig> Gah
[16:00] <erudite> Craig, if your not used to command line you can install ndisgtk...this is a GUI for ndiswrapper
[16:00] <guren> lol cool chinese
[16:00] <LjL> Craig: then go to http://packages.ubuntu.com, download the package you need, see what dependencies it has, and download them too. move them to the ubuntu system, and hope you've got all the dependencies you actually needed; if you don't, repeat the process.
[16:00] <Jackiz> how can i install the addon NBS-IRC for mirc ? when i try it can not create some files, accses denied i think.. :/
[16:01] <hubuntu> fstab seems to have the right configuration too. but inserting a DVD does'nt generate any action under GNOME and mount -a does nothing
[16:01] <nnull> thankyou for your help Alkali :)
[16:01] <hubuntu> what am I missing here erUSUL ?
[16:01] <Alkali> nnull, not a problem
[16:02] <Jackiz> how can i install the addon NBS-IRC for mirc ? when i try it can not create some files, accses denied i think.. :/
[16:02] <bullgard4> What is the function of the 'jbd' loadable kernel module? 'modinfo jbd' does not answer this question.
[16:03] <hubuntu> and the command $ sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 *gives* mount: No medium found
[16:03] <carandraug> LjL: also, in the sinaptic package manager, you select th epackage you want to install and then there's an option to generate a script that will download all the needed packages (dependencies included) in another computer. Open it in windows with wordpad and just copy all the URL you find there
[16:03] <hubuntu> So I really do not *get it*
[16:04] <rrrrrominet> slt tout le monde
[16:04] <LjL> Craig, see what carandraug said?
[16:04] <Prokofiev> Why Chinese cool?
[16:04] <LjL> !fr | rrrrrominet
[16:04] <Craig> yes
[16:04] <rrrrrominet> ok
[16:04] <rrrrrominet> bye
[16:04] <Prokofiev> slt tout le monde Is this French?
[16:04] <LjL> Prokofiev: if you speak SMS french, yes
[16:05] <Jackiz> någon svensk som kan hjälpa ? =)
[16:05] <LjL> !se | Jackiz
[16:05] <Prokofiev> 你好 我是中国人
[16:05] <LjL> meh
[16:05] <LjL> !cn | Prokofiev
[16:06] <Prokofiev> Who is ubottu
[16:06] <LjL> !bot > Prokofiev    (Prokofiev, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:06] <Prokofiev> Is ubottu a npc?
[16:06] <emperorming> a big hello to everyone on the channel, just trying out mIRRGI on my fone, looks good
[16:06] <Craig> LjL is the package manager in the applications menu?
[16:06] <carandraug> Prokofiev: you can say that. It's a bot
[16:06] <LjL> Craig: i believe so... i'm not on gnome
[16:06] <LjL> !ot
[16:06] <carandraug> Craig: System > Administration > Synaptic package manager
[16:07] <Craig> thankyou
[16:07] <Prokofiev> Thank you
[16:07] <Craig> time to go test this :D
[16:07] <carandraug> Craig: good luck
[16:07] <eido> how can I calibrate my touchpad in 8.04?  I have a Dell c510 laptop and every so often the mouse starts moving towards the upperleft or lower right corner.  Ant suggestions?
[16:07] <Craig> ill report back :P
[16:07] <Craig> thankyou lol
[16:09] <Prokofiev> is Ljl a bot too?
[16:09] <LjL> Prokofiev: no. will you please stick to ubuntu support questions and answers?
[16:09] <enzotib> [Q] how to know to which process belong a given window?
[16:10] <genshi> \join #python.de
[16:10] <Jackiz> flooodbot1: hello
[16:11] <Alkali> I'm installing ubuntu minimal and I apt-get install gnome and it told me gnome-desktop-eviroment package is broken.  Is this a bug?
[16:11] <LjL> enzotib: i suspect you can't...
[16:11] <Jackiz> how do i change gnome theme ?
[16:12] <tavi> how i update a game called nexuiz?
[16:12] <Craig> ok....ndiswrapper isnt in the package manager :@
[16:12] <enzotib> LjL, bad news :-(
[16:12] <LjL> it is
[16:12] <LjL> !ndiswrapper > craig    (craig, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:12] <Prokofiev> Sorry LjL
[16:12] <xuthanh> yes
[16:12] <arvind_khadri> tavi, from thier site...the latest version hasn't hit the repo's
[16:13] <tavi> what
[16:13] <tavi> ?
[16:13] <tavi> i dont understand
[16:13] <xuthanh> NhaQueDiDepLe cung chay qua a`
[16:13] <Craig> not on my list, i ran a search :S
[16:13] <arvind_khadri> tavi, you need to compile it yourself... the latest version of nexuiz
[16:13] <Prokofiev> !what>tavi
[16:13] <LjL> !info ndiswrapper-common | craig
[16:14] <LjL> Prokofiev, stop with the nonsense, last warning
[16:14] <Craig> :S
[16:14] <fofa> oi
[16:15] <carandraug> !br | fofa
[16:15] <Prokofiev> Sorry
[16:15] <fofa> oi
[16:15] <Craig> okay well, if someone else has the same version of ubuntu as me maybe they could send me the download script that i need...
[16:15] <mahidhar> how 2 mount USB port
[16:15] <LjL> fofa: oi to you to, can we help you?
[16:15] <fofa> oi
[16:16] <arvind_khadri> mahidhar, they auto mount
[16:16] <bazhang> fofa, english please
[16:16] <mahidhar> arvind_khadri, its not getting
[16:16] <fofa> tudo bom
[16:16] <enzotib> [Q] in which pkg I can find the sources of the process that runs when I press Alt-F2 (Run Application)
[16:16] <carandraug> Craig: I have 7.10. Also, one may have some dependencies already installed and you won't. They wouldn't appear in the script
[16:17] <mahidhar> arvind_khadri, what should i do
[16:17] <bazhang> fofa, indonesia?
[16:17] <carandraug> fofa: vai para #ubuntu-br
[16:17] <arvind_khadri> mahidhar, then sudo mount /dev/usb /mnt
[16:17] <LjL> fofa, ingles aqui, /join #ubuntu-br para portugues
[16:17] <Alkali> I would like to install gnome but I don't want to install ubuntu-desktop.  Is there another way?
[16:17] <Craig> ummm...is anyone here running ubuntu 8.04 gnome?
[16:18] <Prokofiev> How can i get subtitles in the totem?
[16:18] <arvind_khadri> Craig, what do you exactly want?
[16:18] <story> df
[16:18] <Craig> ndiswrapper-common package
[16:18] <Miiikeee> me has a question regarding Ubuntu not seeing my USB ports?
[16:18] <fofa> oi
[16:18] <story> sm
[16:19] <Craig> i cant download it on my desktop because i need this package to get my wireless adaptor working :S
[16:19] <fofa> oi
[16:19] <carandraug> Craig: probably most of them. But the script probably won't work that way. Reboot to Ubuntu and generate the script yourself.
[16:19] <arvind_khadri> Craig, check whether you have all the repo's enabled
[16:19] <bazhang> fofa /join #ubuntu-br
[16:19] <kc8pxy> anyone here have the current aptana setup for rails dev?
[16:19] <bazhang> oops
[16:20] <kc8pxy> i'm having a heck of a time getting it to work.
[16:20] <Craig> caradraug, im on ubuntu on my desktop atm, but i ndiswrapper-common isnt in the package list, most probably because i cant refresh the list.
[16:21] <nnull> guys what is kate?
[16:21] <nnull> !kate
[16:21] <LjL> !msg the bot > nnull
[16:21] <carandraug> Craig: try to activate the other repositories. System > Administration > software sources
[16:21] <nnull> so its a txt editor?
[16:21] <LjL> yes
[16:21] <nnull> kk
[16:21] <usser> nnull, its more than just a txt editor :)
[16:21] <Craig> oki ill brb
[16:21] <usser> nnull, its a very advanced text editor
[16:21] <HymnToLife> nnull: KDE Advanced Text Editor
[16:21] <nnull> oic :)
[16:22] <Prokofiev> a word processor
[16:22] <nnull> a lover
[16:22] <nnull> lol
[16:22] <LjL> pfffff
[16:22] <Vinterbound> !code
[16:22] <Miiikeee> how do I get Ubuntu to see my USB ports?
[16:23] <Prokofiev> I love eclipse
[16:23] <kc8pxy> anyone got aptana working?
[16:24] <Miiikeee> how do I get Ubuntu to see my USB ports?
[16:24] <Craig> nope didnt work
[16:24] <carandraug> Craig: also, there's an option with apt-get to get the list of packages from another computer but I don't know which
[16:25] <bazhang> Miiikeee, in virtualbox?
[16:25] <Miiikeee> I'm a newbe no idea bazHANG
[16:26] <arvind_khadri> !compile > tavi
[16:26] <bazhang> Miiikeee, normally just plugging in usb sticks etc is all it takes
[16:26] <Miiikeee> I plug a usb device in and don't see it anywhere
[16:26] <hellcattrav> hey all
[16:26] <bazhang> Miiikeee, what device
[16:26] <Craig> caradraug, i think my best bet is to find someone else with the same ubuntu as me and get the download script of them :S
[16:26] <hellcattrav> so my screen sometimes flickers a little bit
[16:26] <hellcattrav> around the bottom and side edges, is this normal?
[16:26] <Miiikeee> tried a usb stick, webcam and external usb hard drive
[16:27] <bazhang> Miiikeee, is this straight to a port or to a hub
[16:27] <Miiikeee> straight to a port
[16:27] <bazhang> hellcattrav, with compiz or not
[16:27] <henux> Excuse me; how do I mount USB drive in Ubuntu?
[16:27] <henux> from Command line
[16:27] <henux> !usb
[16:27] <hellcattrav> bazhang, happens with compiz turned on or off
[16:27] <carandraug> Craig: you won't get it by just asking if someone around here is using gnome in ubuntu 8.04
[16:27] <oliver3> !PulseAudio
[16:28] <hellcattrav> currently its off, but it is installed on box
[16:28] <danand> henux - mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint :)
[16:28] <oliver3> !ESD
[16:28] <oliver3> !alsa
[16:28] <bazhang> hellcattrav, what video card, which driver and how installed
[16:28] <Craig> well, i dont think i have any other option but to bring my desktop downstairs and plug it into my modem :S
[16:29] <Craig> refresh the package list and hope its there
[16:29] <Pelo> !tvout
[16:29] <oliver3> Anyone know a quick way to switch to ESD or dmix from pulseaudio?
[16:30] <Deltones> Hey guys, I'm a PCLinuxOS but I know Ubuntu is a numerous community. So one of you may have seen this problem. Here's the situation I'm trying out. XP host, PCLinuxOS guest in VMware. More to follow...
[16:30] <carandraug> Craig: that would be the best course of action. ALso, tae a look at this for downloading the list of packages, updating in your computer to then be able to generate the script https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository
[16:31] <Glady> Once I got my hdd partitioned can I change it after?
[16:31] <bazhang> oliver3, see what the bot says about that (use alsa instead)
[16:31] <oliver3> bazhang, already done so
[16:31] <kc8pxy> Deltones: shouldn't be,    xp host, pclinuxos guest,  is COMPLETELY off-topic.
[16:32] <Deltones> Audio was working fine, even in youtube. Until I installed vmware-tools. Now, audio is fine, but audio in youtube is mute, and I can seem to find info related to vmware-tools and youtube. Seen anything?
[16:32] <bazhang> Deltones, www.ubuntu.com <--- then we can talk :)
[16:33] <bazhang> no pclos support here Deltones
[16:33] <Deltones> bazhang: I know it's Ubuntu, but you guys may have seen this problem with your distribution. Just asking.
[16:33] <Miiikeee> bazhang, is there a command I can type in terminal to see the status of us ports?
[16:34] <Miiikeee> usb
[16:34] <bazhang> Miiikeee, plug in a device and check dmesg in terminal right after
[16:34] <kc8pxy> it's very likely a PCLinuxOS specific issue,  or it's something with VMware. none of that is ubuntu, or likely to be generalized from ubuntu.
[16:35] <hellcattrav> bazhang, Um I have an nvidia and I have enabled the restricted driver, not sure what the specific card is
[16:35] <Deltones> Ok, no problem. Maybe one of you guys experienced it with Ubuntu. Pretty hard to find this  info. But thanks.
[16:35] <bazhang> hellcattrav, check in lspci
[16:35] <kc8pxy> Deltones:  now, if you had a ubuntu guest,  or a ubuntu host,   then we could help usefully :)
[16:36] <salaz> how to register nick here?
[16:36] <bazhang> !register > salaz
[16:36] <dasdajs> hi, how do I maximize cpu speed on ubuntu? my server has a "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+" cpu, but it does only run a 1ghz? :S
[16:36] <salaz> bazhang: tq
[16:37] <Miiikeee> bazhanf, I did dmesg, got a huge reoprt, what am I looking for
[16:37] <tavi> i have downloaded nexuiz and i dont know how to install
[16:37] <usser> dasdajs, ubuntu is doing cpu scaling once your cpu starts doing heavy computations it'll scale up
[16:37] <chronic1> how do you change the default program for a given file type?
[16:37] <Deltones> Hey at least guys, if I ask here, it's because your community is pretty well know as having plenty of members. No harm in asking ;) But thanks anyway. Continuing my search.
[16:37] <kc8pxy> dasdajs:  my first thought would be off-topic, and probably be a Bad Idea(tm) to say here  :)
[16:38] <dasdajs> kc8pxy, hmm?! :S it should be ubuntu related.
[16:38] <dasdajs> but msg me then or /q me :)
[16:39] <jochenh> Hi! I have a problem with playing video files, they are played to slow...can anyone help me?
[16:39] <tavi> someone help me to install this game?
[16:39] <bazhang> !info nexuiz
[16:39] <bazhang> tavi, install from repos
[16:39] <tavi> no
[16:40] <tavi> i the last version was told me is not in the repos
[16:40] <bazhang> tavi, that is the way to do it, not from some random website
[16:40] <almacen> hola
[16:40] <tavi> so i downloaded from the site
[16:40] <bazhang> !es | almacen
[16:40] <almacen> hablan español?
[16:40] <tavi> oficial site
[16:40] <tavi> so i don't know how to install
[16:40] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install nexuiz tavi
[16:40] <slamFIST> you can't really run youtube clips over vmware
[16:40] <almacen> como me voy a lla?
[16:40] <slamFIST> bah he's gone
[16:41] <tavi> i already installed but is the old version
[16:41] <bazhang> almacen, /join #ubuntu-es
[16:41] <bazhang> tavi, type that command in terminal
[16:41] <hellcattrav> bazhang, what am I looking for in lspci ?
[16:41] <tavi> so will install what i've downloaded?
[16:41] <jochenh> can anyone help me with my problem playing video files?
[16:42] <bazhang> tavi, no. that is never the way to look. always look in repos first
[16:42] <almacen> #ubuntu-es
[16:42] <carandraug> !es | almacen
[16:42] <tavi> i have onstalled nexuis
[16:42] <tavi> from sudo apt
[16:42] <bazhang> hellcattrav, the name of the video card ie 7300 etc
[16:42] <tavi> but isnt the last version
[16:43] <bazhang> tavi, newer is not better.
[16:43] <tavi> for me yes
[16:43] <carandraug> tavi: if you want the latest version you'll have to compile it yourself
[16:43] <tavi> so how i stall it?
[16:43] <tavi> so how i compile
[16:43] <tavi> ?
[16:43] <tavi> cause is downloaded
[16:43] <carandraug> !compile | tavi
[16:43] <bazhang> tavi, I told you.
[16:44] <tavi> errr bazhang i already done sudo apt
[16:44] <bazhang> tavi, that is not the correct command
[16:44] <carandraug> tavi: you'll have to download the source code from their website and then compile it. If you're asking what is to compile, you're probably not the best person to do it. You can try, in the worst case you'll learn omething
[16:44] <norfen> hola...alguien de habla español... ?
[16:44] <carandraug> !es | norfen
[16:45] <bazhang> norfen, /join #ubuntu-es
[16:45] <tavi> well thjat is what i told
[16:45] <TJ13820> On my ML530, (Compaq proliant) installation of ubuntu server 8.04 fails at select and install software.
[16:45] <bazhang> tavi, you were told wrong.
[16:45] <norfen> ok muchisimas gracias...
[16:45] <tavi> what i've told wrong?
[16:45] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install nexuiz tavi
[16:45] <thiemster> nexuiz
[16:45] <tavi> i told that i need to install a game
[16:46] <TJ13820> On my ML530, (Compaq proliant) installation of ubuntu server 8.04 fails at select and install software. Why is this happening?
[16:46] <tavi> and i do not know what mean to compile
[16:46] <bazhang> tavi, dont compile it.
[16:46] <carandraug> tavi: you can try, at your own risk (I've done it successfully before with a different package), download the deb file from a debian repositorie. If you want the lastes package, you'll have to look into experimental repositories of Debian
[16:46] <Petrucci_vs_Pack> holy crap
[16:46] <Petrucci_vs_Pack> this is my first time on IRC in my life.
[16:47] <tavi> man watch what i told you in private
[16:47] <tavi> let's discuss there
[16:47] <hellcattrav> bazhang,  VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce Go 7600] (rev a1)
[16:47] <hellcattrav> is that it?
[16:47] <bazhang> tavi, no need. just follow the installation instructions I gave you above.
[16:48] <bazhang> hellcattrav, yup
[16:48] <torx1704> ?Question how do i make ubuntu , able to see a windows computer ?
[16:48] <Petrucci_vs_Pack> yeah I'd like to know that too
[16:48] <bazhang> torx1704, via samba
[16:49] <bazhang> !samba
[16:49] <Petrucci_vs_Pack> Does that also work if I want my Vista HTPC to play videos off my Linux box?
[16:51] <Miiikeee> Bazhang, no luck finding my usb ports
[16:51] <will02> is there a way i can set up my computer to be used as a bluetooth headseat?
[16:51] <carandraug> tavi: long story made short, compile is to transform the source code (human readable) to a binary (deb files, machine readable). You'll have to install the tools for that, check if all packages it depends are installed and then compile it (guessing the right flags) which can take a lot of time
[16:51] <gregL> !dhcp
[16:52] <crrj> Hi all
[16:52] <bazhang> Miiikeee, which version of ubuntu
[16:52] <Miiikeee> latest, just downloaded it yesterday and installed 207 updates
[16:53] <crrj> I'm having an interesting issue on a Ubuntu Server setup. When I try sudo it takes the password but doesn't actually run the commands.
[16:53] <airtonix> will02: assuming you have a bluetooth-dongle for you computer...then it could be possible.
[16:53] <dmoerner> crrj, that normally means your user doesn't have sudo privileges. you should look in /etc/sudoers with visudo
[16:53] <Miiikeee> it sees 5 ports on the usb hub, but doesn't detect the devies bazhang
[16:54] <will02> airtonix, yes, and i am able to do serial, network, input service, and audio services
[16:54] <bazhang> Miiikeee, try without the hub
[16:54] <crrj> It should have sudo permissions, it did until recently and no changes were made.
[16:54] <Miiikeee> how do i do that?
[16:54]  * crrj checks again
[16:54] <airtonix> will02: but i actually wouldnt know the process of acheiving your goal
[16:54] <will02> airtonix, ok thanks
[16:55] <dmoerner> crrj, it is possible you are having some weird problem with the previous sudo /var/run file. it might be worth removing /var/run/sudo/yourusername to reset that
[16:55] <Torx> how do i get samba
[16:55] <crrj> unless it got pooched when a user decided to power off the server to reboot it... :S
[16:55] <bazhang> torx install from synaptic package manager
[16:56] <Miiikeee> bazhang how do I access a usb port without the hub?
[16:56] <Pelo> !tvout
[16:56] <bazhang> Miiikeee, unplug the hub and plug the usb device directly into the port where the hub was plugged.
[16:57] <Miiikeee> I don't have a physical hub, dmesg said it sees the 5 ports in a hub
[16:58] <Miiikeee> all the ports are direct to the mother board
[16:58] <carandraug> !pm | tavi
[16:58] <bofh80> Miiikeee, the 'hub' you are describing is actually your onboard usb controller / chipset.
[16:58] <Miiikeee> yup
[16:58] <torx> how do i get samba via synaptic ?
[16:59] <bofh80> Miiikeee, could you repst your question? i joined after you asked it. or pm or to me . .
[16:59] <hellcattrav> bazhang, is there anyway now knowing my vid card to figure out why the screen flickers?
[16:59] <bazhang> torx, via synaptic package manager; choose it and then apply
[16:59] <Miiikeee> ubuntu sees the ports in that hub, but does not detect devices plugged into it
[16:59] <torx> bazhang im looking for it , and i cant find it ?
[16:59] <bazhang> hellcattrav, flickers at what times
[16:59] <bofh80> Miiikeee, has someone else suggest lsusb ?
[16:59] <Miiikeee> nope
[17:00] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install samba  torx
[17:00] <torx> okay thx
[17:00] <crrj> grrr. I think I'm going to have to have someone physically at the machine to fix that.
[17:00] <bofh80> Miiikeee, ok type lsusb in a terminal, and see if it show's you anything connected to the usb :)
[17:00] <hellcattrav> bazhang, I can't tell just seems to flicker every minute, maybe every other
[17:00] <bofh80> Miiikeee, that's LS in lowercase not 1s yes :)
[17:00] <torx> Bazhang how does it work  ? :)
[17:01] <bazhang> torx, you will need to read some links
[17:01] <bazhang> !samba | torx
[17:01] <Miiikeee> bofh80, no response to lsusb
[17:02] <torx> bazhang, can i pm you ? :)
[17:02] <bofh80> Miiikeee, just a blank output? rargh. what have you got connected at the moment??
[17:02] <bazhang> torx, first please do some reading
[17:02] <Miiikeee> a usb stick
[17:02] <bofh80> Miiikeee, i'm wondering if this is the OLD   -   UCHI - OCHI thing, but it's been so long since i looked at that . ..
[17:03] <torx> Bazhang, im trying but i got ubuntu 2days ago, and i have a bit trouble understanding the Terminal but i realy wont it to work
[17:03] <markowen> hello
[17:03] <crrj> Thanks for the assist, didn't see that possibility in google searches, forums etc.
[17:03] <vinicius> hello! how to start a daemon automatically at the system startup?
[17:03] <crrj> It doesn't help that I just moved houses and things are a tad chaotic
[17:03] <Miiikeee> bofh80, I've tried a usb stick, usb hard drive and a webcam
[17:03] <bazhang> torx, let me get some basic links to read first then
[17:03] <bobertdos> markowen: How may we help you?
[17:03] <bazhang> !rute | torx
[17:03] <freeman1973> q all
[17:04] <ompaul> torx, what might not be obvious is that the documents on the web were written by the Ubuntu community and are designed to get you up and running as quickly as possible. It is to your advantage to read them. They do it much better than IRC ever could.
[17:04] <jochenh> can please anyone help me with my problem playing video files?
[17:04] <phirestalker> Is there a way to have themes similar to windowblinds on ubuntu, the features I am looking for are being able to put a pattern not just a color on dialog box backgrounds. I am currently using gnome and if possible would like a solution for that but if KDE will do it I'll switch, any ideas welcome
[17:05] <bazhang> jochenh, please clarify
[17:05] <bofh80> Miiikeee, was the USB working at any point? ie if you had windows on it ?
[17:05] <vinicius> jochenh, try vlc, its the best one
[17:05] <jochenh> they are played to slow
[17:05] <labanux> I want to upgrade my hardisk from 40GB to 160GB. How can I move my system from 2nd partition in 40GB disk to 1st partition in 160GB disk?
[17:05] <jochenh> i try vlc
[17:05] <Miiikeee> bofh80, usb is fine on windows xp
[17:05] <bazhang> jochenh, with compiz or not
[17:05] <jochenh> without compiz
[17:05] <bazhang> jochenh, what video card and driver
[17:06] <Joeseph> I've got my ubuntu machine hooked up via wireless to the internet.  I have another box, (puppy linux) That is connected to my ubuntu machine via ethernet cable.  Do I have to select any options in ubuntu to allow the puppy to use my ubuntu's internet?
[17:06] <jochenh> sapphire ati 9600pro
[17:06] <bazhang> !ics | Joeseph
[17:06] <Miiikeee> bofh80, I even switched over to win xp a bit ago to make sure usb was working there
[17:06] <labanux> I've all my best configuration in my recent system, so how can I have this system on the new hardrive?
[17:06] <Craig> ummm....stupid question but does anyone know if wubi 8.04 is 64 or 32 bit?
[17:07] <bofh80> Miiikeee, ouch ok. do you know how to use pastebin Miiikeee ?
[17:07] <BlueKoala> Hello
[17:07] <BlueKoala> I have a question
[17:07] <Miiikeee> never used it
[17:07] <jochenh> new ati driver in use
[17:07] <BlueKoala> How do I get to see the verbose of when ubuntu is loading?
[17:07] <unop> labanux, use something like rsync or tar to backup from the old harddrive to the new one
[17:07] <bobertdos> Craig: It can be either. I believe it either depends on the version you use or the results of Wubi's analysis of your system.
[17:08] <labanux> unop : but it didn't move the bootloader..
[17:08] <bofh80> i want you to type dmesg in a terminal for me, and paste the results to http://paste.ubuntu.com      and then give me the address it gives you.
[17:08] <Craig> well my windows is 32 bit so im guessing it installed that version
[17:08] <Miiikeee> ok go for it
[17:08] <labanux> unop: i've tried : cat /dev/sda2 > /dev/sdb1. But it has error message when booting
[17:08] <bobertdos> Craig: Yeah, I'd guess
[17:08] <Craig> :)
[17:08] <unop> labanux, that's easily rectified by running reinstalling grub
[17:08] <vinicius> anyone knows how to start a daemon automatically at the system startup?
[17:08] <unop> labanux, cat is not suited for that purpose
[17:09] <jochenh> bazhang: my cpu is at 100% when i do full screen
[17:09] <bobertdos> vinicius: Such things usually have to be accomplished via an init script.
[17:09] <bazhang> jochenh, how much ram, full screen of what video files
[17:09] <vinicius> bobernet, is there any standard one?
[17:09] <phirestalker> Is there a way to have themes similar to windowblinds on ubuntu, the features I am looking for are being able to put a pattern not just a color on dialog box backgrounds. I am currently using gnome and if possible would like a solution for that but if KDE will do it I'll switch, any ideas welcome. I tried out enlightenment and it does what I want but it's not ready for primetime just yet
[17:09] <bazhang> jochenh, also what driver are you using and how was it installed
[17:10] <vinicius> bobernet, the one that already starts apache and so for example...
[17:10] <unop> vinicius, does the app already have an init script?
[17:10] <vinicius> unop, yes
[17:10] <labanux> unop : so how can i copy the whole system? using 'cp'?
[17:10] <norfen_> hola... alguien me puede ayudar a entrar al irc de ubuntu en español por medio del xchat..
[17:10] <rano> hallo
[17:10] <unop> vinicius, then use update-rc.d
[17:10] <bazhang> norfen_, /join #ubuntu-es
[17:10] <unop> !boot > vinicius
[17:10] <vinicius> norfen_, tenta /j #ubuntu-es
[17:11] <unop> labanux, how many partitions does your old setup have?  just one for / ?
[17:11] <bobertdos> norfen_: Por favor, vaya a #ubuntu-es
[17:11] <vinicius> ubottu, thanks.. that will do
[17:11] <jochenh> bazhang: 1gb, 800kbits video 120kbits audio mpeg4,i use ati driver over ubuntu hardware driver system
[17:11] <vinicius> unop, thanks! that will do
[17:11] <Miiikeee> Bofh80, whats the command?
[17:11] <bazhang> jochenh, what about other formats
[17:11] <bofh80> Miiikeee, dmesg
[17:11] <Miiikeee> ty
[17:13] <jochenh> bazhang: I tried "mpeg1-video" in mencoder with the same result
[17:14] <jason_> Hmm... looks like I'm on the wrong thing
[17:14] <unop> labanux, mount both devices somewhere like /media/sda2 and /media/sdb2 .. then use something like this.  cd /media && sudo rsync -aAHXv sda2/ sdb2/
[17:14] <labanux> unop : two partition / and /media/data. But i only want to copy the system (/) to the new hdd (with different partition size)
[17:14] <jason_> Just checkin' out different features on this new operating system of mine
[17:15] <rano> gfhjdghjgh
[17:15] <labanux> unop: then how about the bootloader?
[17:15] <labanux> unop: how should I copy the bootloader from one hdd to the other?
[17:16] <unop> labanux, once that command has finished running.  chroot to /media/sdb2 like this.  sudo chroot /media/sdb2 # and run this. sudo aptitude reinstall grub
[17:16] <dmoerner> what ports do i need to open in ufw to allow printing to a windows samba shared printer?
[17:17] <SherlawkDragon> hey
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> hey all, quick question
[17:17] <labanux> unop : i've a problem with the rsync : "rsync: -aAHXv: unknown option"
[17:17] <yuly> sal
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> with average usage, how long will an eee pc internal hard drive last?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> in days / months / years
[17:18] <dmoerner> ActionParsnip, no one knows exactly but the bet is at least 3 years
[17:18] <wendigu> ;0
[17:19] <unop> labanux, hmm, how exactly are you using the rsync command?
[17:19] <bofh80> ActionParsnip, all about the reading and writing, well more the writing i believe. what ever you do, don't use a swap space
[17:19] <Guest77255> help!how to install java in ubuntu?
[17:19] <labanux> unop: sudo rsync -aAHXv / mnt/
[17:19] <jochenh> bazhang: is my pc to slow to play mpeg4 videos: 3200+,1gb,ati 9600pro?
[17:19] <SherlawkDragon> I've got a disk here that was running XP, but was destroyed by a virus, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it without destroying my files, but the registry is slightly corrupted, and the installer refuses to take a 30GB part of it I know is empty.\
[17:19] <labanux> Guest77255 : use Synaptic is the easiest
[17:19] <SherlawkDragon> is there a way to bypass?
[17:19] <Guest77255> how to install java??
[17:20] <bazhang> jochenh, could you pastebin your xorg.conf please to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:20] <Guest77255> in synaptic?
[17:20] <canefieldhero> join server nodramairc.net
[17:20] <phirestalker> Is there a way to have themes similar to windowblinds on ubuntu, the features I am looking for are being able to put a pattern not just a color on dialog box backgrounds. I am currently using gnome and if possible would like a solution for that but if KDE will do it I'll switch, any ideas welcome. I tried out enlightenment and it does what I want but it's not ready for primetime just yet
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> bofh80: true, mind you with the basic use im suprised it needs one with 1gb ram
[17:20] <unop> labanux, try this.  sudo rsync -avHX / mnt/
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> bofh80: can you run ubuntu with no swap space?
[17:20] <SherlawkDragon> ActionParsnip> yes.
[17:20] <SherlawkDragon> any linux, if you have the RAM
[17:21] <tony_> Hi, I discovered that my wifi isn't working due to the wireless switch on my Compac Presario being switched off, as described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioF767NR  Wireless Switch
[17:21] <tony_> 	
[17:21] <tony_> 	
[17:21] <tony_> 	
[17:21] <tony_> it works, but the status light doesn't. If you switch it off (left most position), it turns the wireless off, but the light will stay orange no matter if its on or off. I find it easier to right click network manager and declick enable wireless, its a bit faster
[17:21] <FloodBot1> tony_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <labanux> Guest77255 : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu.html
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> SherlawkDragon: make a small ram drive and moungt it as /swap ??
[17:21] <bofh80> ActionParsnip, you can but again, that only leaves you with the RAM you have to work with . . ..
[17:21] <kr0gafk|food> Hey - I just killed a process that has changed my screen resolution (alien arena)
[17:21] <unop> ActionParsnip, having swap space does not hurt tho .. i would create it anyhow.
[17:21] <SherlawkDragon> ActionParsnip> you don't need a swap at all.
[17:21] <Guest77255> please,i spanish,but how install java in linux?????
[17:21] <kr0gafk|food> I now have a screen resolution too low, a croped display, and the mouse doesn't work
[17:21] <kr0gafk|food> what is the best fix for this?
[17:22] <kr0gafk|food> rather than reboot
[17:22] <jochenh> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/42198/
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> SherlawkDragon: i fgured the install would moan
[17:22] <kr0gafk|food> can I restart my window manager?
[17:22] <bofh80> unop, he has a FLASH based drive, a SWAP space will KILL IT
[17:22] <SherlawkDragon> someone should unban tony_
[17:22] <labanux> unop : laban@labanux:/root$ sudo rsync -avHX / mnt/
[17:22] <labanux> rsync: -avHX: unknown option
[17:22] <labanux> rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1318) [client=2.6.9]
[17:22] <unop> ActionParsnip, you don't have to create a dedicated swap partition - you can use a swapfile if you like
[17:22] <tony_> I'm okay, Sherlawk
[17:22] <Guest77255> algun español por ai?
[17:22] <tony_> thx
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> unop: yeah, might just make a 20mb one just to keep it happy
[17:22] <SherlawkDragon> ActionParsnip> no.  how much ram do you have?
[17:22] <unop> bofh80, adjust the swapiness of the kernel for that then ..
[17:22] <tony_> Sorry for the flood.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> SherlawkDragon: 1gb
[17:23] <tony_> Anyone have any insight?
[17:23] <bofh80> lol
[17:23] <SherlawkDragon> ActionParsnip> you should be fine.
[17:23] <BlueKoala> Insight? What's that?
[17:23] <tony_> BlueKoala: lol
[17:23] <bazhang> jochenh, dont know much about ati; though suspect the fglrx may have something to do with it. how does compiz work with this?
[17:23] <unop> labanux,  sudo rsync -av / mnt/
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> SherlawkDragon: but wont the install whinge when i dont make a /swap?
[17:23] <SherlawkDragon> it will complain, maybe, but it will install.
[17:24] <SherlawkDragon> (Stop me if I'm wrong here)
[17:24] <bofh80> ok ok . room. Miiikeee has a problem with his USB,    it's loading OHCI, UCHI and ECHI,    mine don't do OHCI. this goes a but past me, so can some one else pitch in. ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/42196/
[17:24] <unop> ActionParsnip, it would warn you -- but probably continue if forced.
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> SherlawkDragon: awesome, im not doing it yet but im gonna be doing it later
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> unop: ill force it good
[17:24] <tony_> Okay, here's the issue:  I discovered that my wifi isn't working due to the wireless switch on my Compac Presario being switched off, as described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioF767NR
[17:24] <SherlawkDragon> so, does anyone have an answer to my partition problem?
[17:24] <tony_> Anyone know how to fix this?
[17:25] <BlueKoala> tony_: Ok, turn the switch on
[17:25] <nnull> anyone tell me how id i can make .flv's loop in vlc????
[17:25] <tony_> BlueKoala> It's on
[17:25] <BlueKoala> tony_: Have you tried the fn keys?
[17:25] <nnull> dont worry found irt
[17:25] <labanux> unop: ok, work in progress..
[17:25] <BlueKoala> tony_: Is the LED for wireless on?
[17:25] <WDC> Hey what's the best Blog Editor for Ubuntu? BloGTK doesn't like my blog, and has no spell check. What are you all using/
[17:25] <jochenh> bazhang: i didnt use compiz as far as i thought.I just tried mpeg1 with 800kbits and it isnt as slow as mpeg4 but not really good...
[17:26] <SherlawkDragon> I've got a disk here that was running XP, but was destroyed by a virus, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it without destroying my files, but the registry is slightly corrupted, and the installer refuses to take a 30GB part of it I know is empty.  Anyone know a way to Bypass this?
[17:26] <bofh80> Miiikeee, it don't think your supposed to use OCHI and UCHI at the same time. i will be afk for half an hour or so. i will have more time to look at it then, unless someone else can you help you.
[17:26] <WDC> SherlawkDragon: Boot to a Live CD
[17:26] <WDC> SherlawkDragon: If that's an option
[17:26] <bofh80> Miiikeee, since you haven't asked your question in a while, feel free to pipe up, and ask again :)
[17:26] <unop> labanux, just out of curiosity .. did you wipe the sdb2 partition clean ?
[17:26] <tony_> BlueKoala: Hang on
[17:26] <SherlawkDragon> WDC> ...that's what I'm doing
[17:26] <Miiikeee> should I try installing one bofh80?
[17:26] <WDC> SherlawkDragon: So what are you trying to do?
[17:26] <Miiikeee> iif so which?
[17:26] <tony_> BlueKoala: Yes, it's on
[17:26] <SherlawkDragon> Repartition
[17:26] <bofh80> Miiikeee, you have them both installed, that's the seemable problem, tehy are both loading
[17:27] <WDC> What is a good Blog Editor for Ubuntu? BloGTK isn't my thing
[17:27] <tony_> I opened a chat, if you'd like
[17:27] <Miiikeee> uninstallone of them bofh80?
[17:27] <bofh80> Miiikeee, if anyone wants to help you , they will want to see that pastebin you did for me. but otherwise like i said, 30 minutes. ..
[17:27] <unop> labanux, because if sdb2 is of a different size to sda2 .. then it's probably going to have the wrong filesystem size now - a result of your earlier cp command
[17:27] <BlueKoala> tony_: You're further along than I am, I'm having a similar problem with a Thinkpad t40, the light won't come on at all. I think the hardware switch is fookt
[17:28] <bofh80> Miiikeee, again i get lost here, i assume you would have to blacklist the module. but i'm not sure . .. . . haven't dealt with ochi uchi since ubuntu 6.0.6
[17:28] <tony_> Okay, thanks
[17:28] <guntbert> !repeat | WDC
[17:28] <will02> why would my system monitor be saying that my main hard disk is 99% full (its an 80 gig) when my disk usage analyzer reports that / takes up 13.9 gigs
[17:28] <Miiikeee> Thanks much for all your efforts bofh80
[17:28] <SherlawkDragon> I'm trying to take 30GB, which I know is empty, off of the NTFS partition
[17:28] <Stargazer> How can i get a screenshot of a tip layer ?
[17:29] <WDC> guntbert: KTHX. Just thought someone of the 1300 people (yah I know they are lurking) would have a good blog program
[17:29] <jochenh> bazhang: so do you think my hardware is to slow or is it really a software problem?
[17:30] <guntbert> will02: please pastebin the output of "df -h"
[17:30] <WDC> What package do I need for Java? the JDK?
[17:30] <jpds> !java
[17:30] <SherlawkDragon> hmm...
[17:31] <clintchance> I have a gateway GT5473E that will soon be with ubutnu bc windows finaly got on my nerves and got a hacker. Im in live CD right now but the only options are for the smaller screen resolution i know the card can handle it because in vista i hade like 2000X something
[17:31] <SherlawkDragon> so, no one knows how to bypass a frivilous error when partitioning to install?
[17:31] <clintchance> any fix?
[17:31] <will02> guntbert http://pastebin.com/d360bbce8
[17:31] <unop> SherlawkDragon, what error ?
[17:31] <will02> guntbert, i also had issues with banshee, which i did research on and was caused by a full filesystem
[17:32] <bazhang> jochenh, I think it is a driver issue
[17:32] <Stargazer> I want to take a screenshot of Rhythmbox's now playing, but it disappears every time i hit prn scrn. any ideas ?
[17:32] <[gquit]bombadil> i'm having trouble writing metadata to mp3s on an ntfs partition
[17:33] <guntbert> will02: you see, your /dev/sda1 is really full, lets sort it out
[17:33] <SherlawkDragon> unop> I want to take 30GB off an NTFS partition which I know is free.  The virus I was talking about "slightly corrupted" it.  how do I bypass the error and partition anyway?
[17:33] <clintchance> !gateway
[17:33] <clintchance> nvm
[17:33] <jochenh> bazhang: so my hardware should normally play mpeg4 files without problems?
[17:33] <will02> guntbert, yes i know, what do i need to do?
[17:33] <unop> SherlawkDragon, what does the error message say exactly?
[17:33] <bazhang> jochenh, your hardware is more than good enough.
[17:34] <phirestalker> I am looking for a way to put a pattern not just a color on dialog box backgrounds. I am currently using gnome and if possible would like a solution for that but if KDE will do it I'll switch, any ideas welcome. I tried out enlightenment and it does what I want but it's not ready for primetime just yet
[17:34] <bazhang> jochenh, I'm sorry I dont know more about ati
[17:34] <jochenh> bazhang: okay thank you for your help!
[17:34] <SherlawkDragon> unop> I don't remember, it was something like "Cannot modify partition, NTFS file system is corrupted."
[17:34] <SherlawkDragon> then it wanted to fully reformat it.
[17:34] <bazhang> jochenh, I would ask in compiz-fusion about that driver; /join #compiz-fusion
[17:35] <luisgabriel84> my desktop is locked!! cant right click, cant create shortcuts. the shortcuts that where there before are not showing! help
[17:35] <bobertdos> clintchance: Once you actually install Ubuntu, you'll be able to install restricted drivers (or the proprietary ones)  and have better options in terms of resolution. That's assuming support for your card is decent, of course.
[17:35] <guntbert> will02: type "du -xs /* | sort -nr|head and pastebin the output
[17:35] <BlueKoala> How do I get to see what happens when ubuntu is loading?
[17:35] <jochenh> bazhang: okay thanks!
[17:35] <SherlawkDragon> BlueKoala> don'tn think there is a verbose mode...
[17:35] <dmoerner> BlueKoala, remove "splash" and "quiet" from your kernel line
[17:35] <BlueKoala> :(
[17:35] <will02> guntbert: should that be done as root?
[17:35] <crrj> SherlawkDragon: I'd see about running a filesystem check on that before anything else. There are many tools to fix corrupted filesystems.
[17:35] <unop> SherlawkDragon, well, i would say this. if you really care about the contents of the NTFS partition - you should really be using windows tools to check it for integrity .. can you not boot up into windows safe mode ?
[17:35] <BlueKoala> Ok
[17:36] <SherlawkDragon> oh really?
[17:36] <bazhang> BlueKoala, get into grub menu and remove quiet and splash from the kernel you are booting
[17:36] <luisgabriel84> my desktop is locked!! cant right click, cant create shortcuts. the shortcuts that where there before are not showing! help
[17:36] <SherlawkDragon> unop> it's being shitty.  The virus rewrote alot of it.  But the Files are still good.
[17:36] <urbanguerrilla> Hi all, my girlfriend has an Acer laptop with an intel X3100 graphics card running hardy. Recently I was messing around trying to get java to work (no idea why it never, ever does) and in the process of logging out and back in again compiz broke. Now, even though gnome's appearences settings are set to start compiz, and so is fusion-icon, gome always starts without a window manager. Using fusion-icon I can start ei
[17:36] <urbanguerrilla> ther metacity or compiz without incident (although initially trying to start compiz would make X crash, but not anymore), but compiz simply won't start on login. If anyone could offer any assistance I'd be most grateful. :)
[17:36] <bobertdos> BlueKoala: I forget what the command is. I think it's like Alt-F1 during boot. If nothing else, you can delete "quiet" from your menu.lst.
[17:36] <bazhang> SherlawkDragon, no cursing please
[17:37] <newbie> please help me
[17:37] <phirestalker> luisgabriel84, do you have something you were working on you wish to save? If not just hit Ctrl-Alt-Del and choose log out and then you can log back in, it should bring everything back
[17:37] <newbie> i want to use webcam for yahoo chat
[17:37] <supercuteguy> Hi othersupercutepeople.
[17:37] <newbie> can anyone please help me?
[17:37] <SherlawkDragon> bazhang> oh fine fine... >..>;;
[17:37] <newbie> i have some v4l cam
[17:37] <unop> SherlawkDragon, well, if you can boot up into safe mode -- do that and run these. chkdsk /f /v drive_letter:     and   defrag -f -v drive_letter:
[17:37] <newbie> is anyone there?
[17:37] <will02> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/d76c0f3e6
[17:37] <Skitnav> hi all
[17:38] <newbie> does anyone know the solution?
[17:38] <luisgabriel84> Ctrl-Alt-Del not working doestn do anything
[17:38] <unop> SherlawkDragon, you could use some linux tools to force the operation - but it is not worth it if you value the content of the NTFS volume.
[17:38] <SherlawkDragon> unop> I've tried.  It tells me I have to restart, I restart, it doesn't do it.
[17:38] <bastid_raZor> newbie; are you using pidgin?
[17:38] <SherlawkDragon> this virus was serious.
[17:38] <guntbert> will02: I see, I need  a few minutes
[17:38] <SherlawkDragon> it's still on there.
[17:38] <will02> guntbert: this is the output as root http://pastebin.com/dc5605d
[17:38] <tony_> Hi, I'm back, despite BlueKoala's efforts, I still have this issue:  Hi, I have a question. My wife accidentally switched the wireless switch on her Presairo off, as mentioned here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioF767NR
[17:38] <unop> SherlawkDragon, in safe mode too?
[17:38] <SherlawkDragon> yes
[17:39] <perillux> how can I upgrade to kernel 2.6.26 or 2.6.27 ??
[17:39] <phirestalker> luisgabriel84, if that is not doing anything the system may be completely frozen and just needs to be rebooted
[17:39] <bazhang> perillux, you cannot
[17:39] <newbie> hello people.please help me.i wish to use webcam for yahoo chat...does anyone know how do i do it?
[17:39] <perillux> bazhang: y not?  it's available
[17:39] <SherlawkDragon> unop> this is the virus that Norton and Trend Micro tell you to reformat if you get it.  It's one of the most destructive ones out there.
[17:39] <bastid_raZor> newbie; are you using pidgin?
[17:39] <bobertdos> luisgabriel84: Try killing X. Ctrl+Alt+F1 and Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back in.
[17:39] <bazhang> perillux, the next version is only alpha 4
[17:40] <perillux> bazhang: also the ubuntu kernel development team asked if I would test my "problem" on kernel 2.6.27
[17:40] <urbanguerrilla> newbie - does your webcam work? (ie in gstreamer-properties)? If so, try kopete for Y! webcam
[17:40] <bazhang> perillux, then #ubuntu+1 would be the place to discuss this.
[17:40] <unop> SherlawkDragon, then you ought to be formatting the partition .. do you have any freespace around on another harddrive perhaps wherre you can temporarily place your data?
[17:41] <SherlawkDragon> unop> there's over 4 GB of it, and it's not mine, it's my brother's....
[17:41] <SherlawkDragon> anyway... I DO have another partition ther
[17:41] <SherlawkDragon> I don't know what it is
[17:41] <SherlawkDragon> but I could check
[17:42] <SherlawkDragon> it's about 35GB
[17:42] <asmajala> وهذا هو
[17:42] <SherlawkDragon> the problem is I can't get anything to mount
[17:42] <orgthingy> hi
[17:42] <SherlawkDragon> fstab and mtab don't have them.
[17:42] <orgthingy> so, how can i make many PDF documents into one?
[17:42] <unop> SherlawkDragon, so you do have some freespace on another partition/drive ?
[17:42] <magnetron> orgthingy, for joining PDF files - i have heard good things about pdftk
[17:42] <orgthingy> because i want all chapters to be in one PDF documents
[17:42] <orgthingy> oh, kk
[17:42] <magnetron> orgthingy, pdftk is in the repos
[17:42] <orgthingy> thanks
[17:43] <SherlawkDragon> unop> yes.  Dell put what I think is a backup/recovery partition on there.
[17:43] <unop> SherlawkDragon, you should be able to mount them simply by clicking the volume in nautilus under  Places > Computer
[17:43] <SherlawkDragon> hmm...
[17:43] <SherlawkDragon> let me go try that...
[17:43] <newbie_> hello people..please help me...i want to use webcam on yahoo chat..... how do i do it? i have some v4l cam
[17:44] <newbie_> hello people..please help me...i want to use webcam on yahoo chat..... how do i do it? i have some v4l cam
[17:44] <newbie_> is anyone here?
[17:44] <Skitnav> spam anyone?
[17:44] <newbie_> please help me
[17:44] <asmajala> وهذا هوv
[17:44] <asmajala> وهذا هو
[17:44] <asmajala> وهذا هو
[17:44] <FloodBot1> asmajala: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <bastid_raZor> newbie_; pidgin does not currently support video or voice chat. as urbanguerrilla suggested.. you should try Kopete for !Y
[17:44] <orgthingy> eh?
[17:45] <guntbert> will02: please pastebin the output of "sudo du -sh /home/* "
[17:45] <UntitledMobile> Morning
[17:45] <bastid_raZor> !PM | newbie_
[17:46] <BunTai> how to install bitchx?
[17:46] <jokkaa> Does anyone know how i could get a digital clock on my desktop?
[17:46]  * Pelo sighs so deeply the walls creek a little
[17:46] <frybye> evning!
[17:46] <newbie_> sorry razor:(
[17:46] <Skitnav> Using linux bores me, because i dont know what to do next.. I had it installed as a boot OS 3 times before but deleted it.
[17:46] <asmajala> 比
[17:46] <Skitnav> Running on a VM now
[17:46] <jpds> !en | asmajala
[17:46] <newbie_> my kopette installation asks me to install qt
[17:46] <Pelo> jokkaa, check in synaptic , search for clock ther are a few , you can probably also get one using  screenlets or gdesklet
[17:46] <supercuteguy> My BIOS is doing somethinkg funky I think, the disk order is set, and I partition the first disk for ubuntu installation, but it is given the device name /dev/sdc! even though installer says it is (0,0). Since my BIOS is being a PITA (it seems this way), how can I have the installer install the bootloader to the right disk? I think I should install it to /dev/sda
[17:46] <newbie_> how do i install qt please tell me
[17:46] <will02> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/d48ccee90
[17:46] <jrib> BunTai: use irssi or weechat instead
[17:46] <jokkaa> Pelo, thx
[17:46] <newbie_> how do i install qt????
[17:47] <jrib> newbie_: why?
[17:47] <UntitledMobile> Jokka use desklets or screenlets
[17:47] <jpds> newbie_: sudo apt-get install kopete.
[17:47] <BunTai> apt-get install irssi?
[17:47] <BunTai> like that?
[17:47] <jrib> BunTai: yes
[17:47] <newbie_> ok wait i will try
[17:47] <Pelo> I just want to get totem to send video to my tv , is that too much to ask ,  the tv itself seems setup properly , I can see a second desktop on it
[17:47] <John0Neil> supercuteguy, I have encouter the same problem. I have simply disconected the other disk for the installation. Ubuntu install the bootloader on the only disk left connected
[17:47] <BunTai> tq
[17:47] <bazhang> Pelo, via vga?
[17:47] <Pelo> bazhang, via svideo on my nvidia 6800
[17:48] <Skitnav> is there any IRC chat (standalone version; im using Chatzilla ATM) for ubuntu?
[17:48] <newbie_> but kopete installation asks qt package between 2.2 and 4
[17:48] <guntbert> will02: apparently its your own homedirectory, so sudo du -sh /home/will/*
[17:48] <newbie_> sorry 3.3 and 4
[17:48] <jrib> !irc | newbie_
[17:48] <supercuteguy> Well, hmn. Alright I iwll try this.
[17:48] <syntaxstealth_> ?
[17:48] <friendzhengzhou> Ë­°¡
[17:48] <jrib> Skitnav: the above was for you.  sorry newbie_
[17:48] <bazhang> Pelo, not sure about svideo; vga works fine here from eeepc running ubuntu
[17:48] <friendzhengzhou> ÓÐ¶®ÖÐÎÄµÄÅóÓÑÂð
[17:48] <jrib> friendzhengzhou: english
[17:48] <newbie_> its ok jrib :)
[17:48] <Skitnav> i meant a program, not the channels :P
[17:48] <bobertdos> Skitnav: xchat or pidgin are the recommendations here usually
[17:48] <bazhang> !cn | friendzhengzhou
[17:48] <Pelo> bazhang, I thought that's what the tv-out option in totem was for but it still won'T turn on ,  I don't want a desktop on my tv, I just want to send videos to it
[17:49] <Skitnav> ok, ill give pidgin a shot, since its already installed
[17:49] <jrib> Skitnav: yes, the link lists clients
[17:49] <will02> guntbert http://pastebin.com/d193facd1
[17:49] <white_eagle> guys, I have a terrible problem in here, sound doesn't play on the speakers
[17:49] <white_eagle> since 2 days ago
[17:49] <Pelo> bazhang, do you get a desktop when you use vga with y our tv ?
[17:49] <salaz> friendzhengzhou: shut da **** up
[17:49] <newbie_> does anyone over here have links for virtualbox references?
[17:49] <white_eagle> I don't know what should I do
[17:49] <bazhang> Pelo, okay; I have the desktop, and then use vlc to play video (ie desktop on tv)
[17:49] <shiman> newbie_: www.google.com
[17:49] <bazhang> salaz, no cursing please
[17:49] <bobertdos> !virtualbox | newbie_
[17:49] <frybye> Skitnav: u can instakk   Konversation  appl..
[17:49] <DIFH-iceroot> newbie_: google, virtualbox,org, wiki i think
[17:50] <newbie_> no shiman i tried a lot but cudnt get yaar
[17:50] <John0Neil> supercuteguy, I know it is not very professional, but this is the only worry free method I know
[17:50] <salaz> bazhang: theres no cursing..cant u see??
[17:50] <white_eagle> anyone?
[17:50] <white_eagle> I haven't muted ANYTHING
[17:50] <shiman> white_eagle: sorry?
[17:50] <bazhang> salaz, we can read the ** dont do it.
[17:50] <white_eagle> I can't play sounds
[17:50] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[17:50] <newbie_> hey people,thanx a lot for ur suggestions,but u know i want in detailed architecture and working,since i plan to do a project on it...does anyone have links for as such?
[17:50] <ApOgEE-> hi all
[17:50] <white_eagle> shiman: sound doesn't work et all
[17:50] <guntbert> will02: and now  sudo du -sx /home/will/*|sort -nr please
[17:50] <salaz> bazhang: ya ya
[17:50] <white_eagle> shiman: and nothing is muted
[17:50] <shiman> white_eagle: apt-get update?
[17:50] <white_eagle> ?
[17:51] <white_eagle> shiman: what?
[17:51] <ApOgEE-> got problem with bluetooth dongle
[17:51] <Pelo> bazhang, I just managed to get totem to fullscreen on the tv , but by starting totem on the tv instead of my monitor,  that's an issue for me since the tv will be in another room altogether
[17:51] <gianluca120390> dfsaf
[17:51] <Skitnav> back i am, via pidgin :)
[17:51] <ApOgEE-> dmesg flood hci_scodata_packet: hci0 SCO packet for unknown connection handle 92
[17:51] <shiman> white_eagle: sudo apt-get
[17:51] <ApOgEE-> any ideas how to fix?
[17:51] <salaz> bazhang: actually i didnt type any of those words..juz the asterict..how can u see..hmmm
[17:51] <white_eagle> shiman: what does that have to do with my sound problem
[17:51] <will02> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/d48c37edf
[17:51] <MachinTrucChose> I'm looking to do Windows-like user-switching behavior. Eg, assuming the PC has the users Bob and Sue, if Bob has an X session going, and Sue wishes to use the computer, she does "switch user", and starts her own session, without closing Bob's session and running programs. Additionally, in the case that Sue was already logged in, switching to her account resumes her existing session rather than starting a new one and
[17:51] <MachinTrucChose> resulting in 2 concurrent Sue sessions.
[17:51] <shiman> white_eagle: what card ure using?
[17:52] <white_eagle> shiman: integrated card (sound work perfectly fine 2 days ago)
[17:52] <white_eagle> shiman: on a laptop
[17:52] <shiman> white_eagle: have u updated the kernel recently?
[17:52] <white_eagle> shiman: yes
[17:52] <shiman> white_eagle: no wonder
[17:52] <bazhang> Pelo, ah I see; I have the eeepc right next to the tv
[17:52] <white_eagle> shiman: ?
[17:53] <shiman> white_eagle: not yet stable
[17:53] <Pelo> bazhang, the idea is for me to be able to watch vids in my living room and not sitting at my desk anymore
[17:53] <guntbert> will02: I see, I'm wondering..., let me have another look at it, brb
[17:53] <Reaper> How can I edit the grub list as root? Cause I went to the Grub folder, opened the list, but it won't let me save. anyone?
[17:53] <white_eagle> shiman: do I need to reupdate
[17:53] <white_eagle> shiman: i have security updates available
[17:54] <will02> guntbert, ok
[17:54] <white_eagle> shiman: maybe that'll fix the problem
[17:54] <unop> MachinTrucChose, i beleive the fast-user-switch-applet gives you what you need
[17:54] <jrib> Reaper: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:54] <Pelo> bazhang, other then the bit where I have can'T just "send the video" to the tv , it works very nicely , I'm only guessing that the totem option for tvout is what I need
[17:54] <newbie_> when i installed kopette and tried to access webcam, it asked me for jasper
[17:54] <newbie_> how do i install jasper?
[17:54] <white_eagle> newbie_: sudo apt-get install jasper in a terminal
[17:54] <Skitnav> is it weird that I feel bored because i dont know what to do next with my ubuntu?
[17:54] <Pelo> newbie_, sudo apt-get install jasper
[17:54] <shiman> white_eagle: get to d previous kernel.. do not use the current/latest kernel
[17:54] <white_eagle> newbie_: no
[17:54] <newbie_> it says couldnt find package jasper :(
[17:54] <bazhang> Pelo, I think you are correct; I can try sometime later with that option (tv in other room right now) :)
[17:55] <white_eagle> newbie_: wait, install all the packages you can find at apt-cache search jasper
[17:55] <newbie_> ok
[17:55] <white_eagle> newbie_: on the left hand side before  the "-"
[17:55] <frybye> Skitnav:  - get a job pal!! ;=)
[17:55] <Reaper> jrib: Thanks, worked. :)
[17:55] <bobertdos> Skitnav: nah, it just means you've got everything the way you want it, apparently :)
[17:55] <white_eagle> newbie_: that have jasper in it
[17:55] <shiman> white_eagle: or else u need to update the audio card driver
[17:55] <white_eagle> newbie_: ok?
[17:55] <newbie_> ok white_eagle....thanx a ton
[17:55] <newbie_> i ll try
[17:55] <unop> white_eagle, that seems to be overkill
[17:55] <Skitnav> i have one actualy, but im more talking like: i have no clue what to do next.. i feel like closing ubuntu and heading back to windows ^^
[17:55] <white_eagle> shiman: but I don't have a driver it's an integrated card
[17:56] <white_eagle> unop: ?
[17:56] <airtonix> Skitnav: i can safely assume you have yet to plot world domination?
[17:56] <Skitnav> but saying that here in this irc is like cursing in the church
[17:56] <shiman> white_eagle: oic
[17:56] <unop> white_eagle, installing all jasper packages
[17:56] <Daniela> s
[17:56] <frybye> Skitnav:  ... baah!
[17:56] <Reaper> jrib: By the way, I have a duplicate ubuntu on the boot menu. I mean 2 normal ubuntus and 2 recovery modes....all I have to do is delete the other 2? from the menu list?
[17:56] <shiman> white_eagle: what chip?
[17:56] <white_eagle> unop: all packages that contain jasper libjasper-dev libjasper1 libjasper-runtime
[17:56] <white_eagle> unop: that's an overkill?
[17:57] <white_eagle> shiman: I don't have the slightest idea, where can I check
[17:57] <Skitnav> i would like to fuss around with the terminal stuff, but i dont understand enough of it, google didnt come up with too clever results on exercises either
[17:57] <unop> white_eagle, right, and you don't need the -dev packages unless you are building something that relies on the jasper headers
[17:57] <jrib> !cli > Skitnav
[17:57] <shiman> white_eagle: still have mobo manual or sumthin?
[17:57] <white_eagle> no
[17:57] <newbie_> whit_eagle : thanx a ton :) ... its working now
[17:57] <white_eagle> shiman: argh stupid updates
[17:58] <shiman> white_eagle: hehe.. chill
[17:58] <white_eagle> !gab newbie_
[17:58] <white_eagle> oops
[17:58] <unop> white_eagle, and installing jasper should bring in the dependencies it needs
[17:58] <white_eagle> !tab | newbie_
[17:58] <bastid_raZor> Skitnav; http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/bashref/
[17:58] <SherlawkDragon> unop> Didn't work.
[17:58] <SherlawkDragon> it's not there.
[17:58] <white_eagle> unop: ok, he fixed the problem, what's the fuss? :)
[17:58] <shiman> white_eagle: do u know what kind of mobo ure using now?
[17:58] <newbie_> whats !tab?
[17:58] <white_eagle> newbie_: type whi and hit the tab button
[17:59] <white_eagle> newbie_: it will auto-complete my usernae
[17:59] <guntbert> will02: please unmount your "big disks", "umount ~/Music umount ~/Video umount ~/Backup", then do du -s /home/will/*|sort -nr again
[17:59] <unop> SherlawkDragon, mount it via the command line then.
[17:59] <SherlawkDragon> doesn't exist.
[17:59] <SherlawkDragon> unop> how?
[17:59] <unop> white_eagle, silly way to get it working
[17:59] <shiman> white_eagle: have u tried the recovery session?
[17:59] <SherlawkDragon> I think I might not remember the command right or something...
[17:59] <white_eagle> shiman: what recovery session
[17:59] <white_eagle> shiman: oh
[18:00] <white_eagle> shiman: no
[18:00] <frybye> Skitnav: when you have stuff u cant fix here - with google - find a local linux. guru..?
[18:00] <unop> SherlawkDragon,  try this.   pmount /dev/sdXX  (sdXX being the device you want to mount)
[18:00] <white_eagle> shiman: i still don't know :)
[18:00] <SherlawkDragon> white_eagle> in GRUB, select (recovery mode)
[18:00] <white_eagle> SherlawkDragon: where in grub
[18:00] <SherlawkDragon> unop> Sudo that?
[18:00] <shiman> white_eagle: try it first, let me know if the sound card is workin on recovery session mode
[18:00] <SherlawkDragon> k
[18:00] <unop> SherlawkDragon, pmount does not need sudo
[18:00] <perillux> is there any way to change to Intrepid Ibex without having to make a LiveCD and reinstall everything?
[18:00] <unop> SherlawkDragon, usually atleast, but it will let you know
[18:01] <SherlawkDragon> white_eagle> should be below the normal one.
[18:01] <unop> perillux, please head to #ubuntu+1
[18:01] <SherlawkDragon> unop> what if I don't know the drive?
[18:01] <white_eagle> shiman: what should i type? :\
[18:01] <white_eagle> ohg
[18:01] <white_eagle> oh
[18:01] <white_eagle> oh
[18:01] <white_eagle> yeah
[18:01] <FloodBot1> white_eagle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:01] <white_eagle> cool
[18:01] <white_eagle> :)
[18:01] <unop> SherlawkDragon, you can find out with  sudo fdisk -l
[18:01] <derick_> ola
[18:01] <SherlawkDragon> ok
[18:01] <derick_> oioi
[18:01] <SherlawkDragon> thanks.
[18:01] <ech0s7> anybody have a sony vaio SZ series ??
[18:01] <ech0s7> anybody have a sony vaio SZ series ??
[18:01] <SherlawkDragon> fdisk tells all.
[18:02] <derick_> auguem fala portugues
[18:02] <derick_> ??
[18:02] <unop> !pt | derick_
[18:02] <Ferchault> currently I'm trying to get suspend to disk working on my Vostro 1510. When I issue the command "hibernate" on terminal everything works well. But if I click the appropriate button of the GUI the display gets and stays black - but the notebook is still powered on. Is there a possibility to make the hibernation-button issue the "hibernate"-command?
[18:02] <will02> guntbert http://pastebin.com/dcac8684
[18:03] <jumpkic1> is there a way to find all of the packages in the repo that depend on one specific package?
[18:03] <amenado> Ferchault-> can you look at the command behind the gui?
[18:03] <jrib> jumpkic1: apt-cache rdepends
[18:03] <outbackwifi> hi
[18:03] <unop> jumpkic1, apt-cache rdepends package
[18:03] <Ferchault> amenado: where can I find it?
[18:04] <amenado> Ferchault-> look in its properties perhaps?
[18:04] <Skitnav> ok thanks ubottu, for the link you gave me.. It linked to some nice guides about APT and other things that look quite promissing. Might continue reading later :)
[18:05] <minus198> Hi there.. Does PowerDVD in linux use nVidia PureVideo chip?
[18:05] <jumpkic1> jrib and unop, thank you both!
[18:05] <starenka>  'allo: how can i prevent echo to make a newline? f.e here http://pastebin.com/d7973e857. or to put it simply how to concat program output with string in single line?
[18:05] <BeHE> !ubottu
[18:06] <guntbert> will02: ok, we found it. look at the 1st line (Backup). That means there are about 55GB files lying around, and when you mount /dev/sdb1 they get hidden but remain on the disk, So you should delete/move the contents of your Backup-directory, ok?
[18:06] <will02> guntbert, yea i just noticed that, and did it, that was the problem
[18:07] <guntbert> will02: good, now type "sudo mount -a" to remount everything
[18:08] <will02> thanks guntbert, i owe ya one
[18:08] <guntbert> will02: np, gth :-)
[18:08] <nicholaspaul> ubuntu won't recognise my number pad keys - and I've tried 2 keyboards. ENTER works, but not the numbers, / *, - or +. Any ideas?????
[18:08] <Ferchault> amenado: found nothing. I have also tried gconf-editor but had no success
[18:09] <starenka> 'allo: how can i prevent echo to make a newline? f.e here http://pastebin.com/d7973e857. or to put it simply how to concat program output with string in single line?
[18:09] <amenado> Ferchault-> which gui is that you clicked on?
[18:10] <jrib> starenka: did you take a look at 'man echo'?
[18:10] <starenka> yep
[18:10] <sophy> hi to do so that modprobe fsam7440 runs at the boot of the computer ?
[18:10] <Ferchault> amenado: gnome Desktop...the red button the the upper right corner
[18:10] <jrib> starenka: "-n     do not output the trailing newline" didn't work?
[18:10] <starenka> echo -n -> trailing one.. i need no \n on the start
[18:10] <jrib> starenka: sed maybe
[18:10] <AskHL> starenka, there is no newline in the beginning
[18:11] <amenado> Ferchault-> i dont have that..did you find it in gconf-editor?
[18:11] <AskHL> starenka, if you write to a file you will see that the output starts on the first line
[18:11] <starenka> sophy: add it to /etc/modules
[18:11] <Ferchault> amenado: I'm asked if I want to shut down my notebook, go to standby, reboot, change user...
[18:11] <AskHL> starenka, if you appear to observe a newline, it is the particular newline which the terminal always writes after you type in a command
[18:11] <Ferchault> amenado: no - it was there since I installed ubuntu ;)
[18:12] <unop> starenka, echo "$(sudo fdisk -l | grep "Disk /dev/sda" | cut -d" " -f3  )"
[18:12] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[18:12] <starenka> AskHL: yep., from the other point of view :)) well how to concat echo with program output in one line
[18:12] <amenado> Ferchault-> oh okay..let me look around gconf-editor for whats behind that hibernate icon
[18:12] <Cpudan80> Is it possible to let a disk be mountable by normal users (ie. non root)?
[18:12] <starenka> unop: ohoh thanx
[18:12] <Cpudan80> I have an external HDD, and I'd like to be able to mount just that one without sudo
[18:13] <AskHL> starenka, if the program output already writes a newline, then you'll have to remove that newline I guess
[18:13] <sophy> starenka: thanks!
[18:14] <airtonix> Cpudan80, there are only two ways to mount things
[18:14] <bobertdos> This is probably a stupid question, but do most of the dock programs require Extra Visual Effects in order to fully take advantage of the aesthetics?
[18:14] <woli> i need to rip a cd in mp3 192kbps, but neither sound juicer, nor rythmbox will do, because they automatically select OGG...
[18:15] <airtonix> Cpudan80, as root modifying the fstab, or with a daemon that looks for new devices and has permissions to mount them
[18:15] <airtonix> Cpudan80, the second method is how ubuntu mounts usb drives by default
[18:15] <starenka> unop: I LOVE YOU. awsome, easy :))
[18:15] <amenado> Ferchault-> which keys you have looked at so far under gnome?
[18:15] <supercuteguy> awesome.
[18:16] <jrib> woli: you can make juicer do mp3's, should be an easy google, but let me know if you can't find it
[18:16] <Frills9> !backup
[18:16] <Cpudan80> airtonix: hrm... interesting
[18:16] <unop> starenka, though i would say there are better ways to find out the size of disks ..
[18:16] <nicholaspaul> Are there 'drivers' i can reinstall for the keyboard? I've tried changing layouts - nuthin..
[18:16] <starenka> unop: f.e?
[18:17] <woli> jrib, i go into preferences and select "CD Quality, MP3", but when I close and return, CD Lossy, OGG is selected again....
[18:17] <woli> jrib, same on rythmbox...
[18:17] <Ferchault> amenado: I just performed a search for "hibernate" and found the values set by gnome-power-manager
[18:17] <Cpudan80> unop: df -h
[18:17] <unop> starenka, f.e? whats that?
[18:17] <amenado> Ferchault-> i did same, and there are several
[18:17] <unop> Cpudan80, that lists partitions not disks as whole
[18:17] <starenka> unop: for example
[18:17] <unop> starenka, errm, gimme  a sec
[18:17]  * PiercedWolf gives unop
[18:18] <Cpudan80> unop: oh you wanted whole disks, sorry
[18:18] <will02> can anyone reccomend a printer/scanner combo for hardy?
[18:18] <Cpudan80> will02: virtually all of them work
[18:18] <HymnToLife> !hardware | will02
[18:18] <Cpudan80> will02: I had an HP PSC1210 ? it worked wel
[18:18] <starenka> unop: it's okay.. df server as good as fdisk
[18:18] <Cpudan80> well*
[18:18] <starenka> unop: *servers
[18:18] <qwerw> Can anyone help me with a graphics problem. I have a nvidia on my Gateway GT5473E i think ive installed the software but its not letting me change the resolution. Im in a live cd if that has anything to do with it
[18:18] <Ferchault> amenado: yes - but they are set correctly (according to the description)
[18:19] <jrib> woli: check the permissions are ok on whatever directory it saves preferences in
[18:19] <woli> uh ok...
[18:19] <Ferchault> amenado: thx for trying - I have to leave
[18:19] <Cpudan80> qwerw: You installed the proprietary nvidia driver?
[18:19] <Rakeer> whats the best rar manager for ubuntu?
[18:19] <woli> jrib, but i can select between voice lossless, voice lossy, and FLAC lossless
[18:20] <nicholaspaul> ubuntu won't recognise my number pad keys - and I've tried 2 keyboards. ENTER works, but not the numbers, / *, - or +. Any ideas?????
[18:20] <woli> its only MP3 that i cannot select...
[18:20] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: i dont belive i have. But last time i tryed those it wouldent do i ether. But il try again. Please hold
[18:20] <starenka> unop: well, not.. i need size of whole hdd - not partitions
[18:20] <jrib> woli: wfm, permissions is my first though
[18:20] <nicholaspaul> Are there 'drivers' i can reinstall for the keyboard? I've tried changing layouts - nuthin..
[18:20] <Cpudan80> qwerw: hrm ok, what did you install if you didnt install the proprietary driver?
[18:20] <zethero1> ﻿how do I unhide a mounted volume in AWN?
[18:20] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: the one above it
[18:20] <woli> jrib, ok... do you happen to know which directory it is?
[18:20] <yettenet> Good day! I am looking for a repository providing fresher packages than the default one (testing I guess)
[18:20] <Cpudan80> qwerw: the one above it?
[18:21] <yettenet> Could anyone suggest me what to do?
[18:21] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80:the binary xorg driver
[18:21] <jrib> woli: not offhand :/  check ~/.gnome2 if there's nothing right under ~ and check gconf
[18:21] <Cpudan80> qwerw: System --> Admin --> Hardware Drivers
[18:21] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: legacy wont install now. it says im not i386
[18:21] <Cpudan80> qwerw: Is nvidia checked?
[18:21] <aguitel> yettenet, enable backport
[18:21] <dmoerner> yettenet, "testing", if you mean intrepid ibex by testing, is not default in ubuntu, and does have the newest packages
[18:21] <yettenet> I see...
[18:22] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: went to sys,admin,hdwr no propriatary drivers found
[18:22] <dmoerner> yettenet, which packages do you find to be too old? maybe a hardy backport could be made for them
[18:22] <Cpudan80> qwerw: What nvidia card is in that thing?
[18:22] <luis__> Need help new to linux my audio went off after installed all the new updates, can some one help? i need sound
[18:22] <yettenet> dmoerner: PekWM
[18:22] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: im not really sure
[18:22] <zethero1> any ideas?
[18:22] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: let me reserar a minute
[18:23] <unop> starenka, does the size have to be in gigabytes, megabytes, etc?
[18:23] <yettenet> 0.1.7 is already out, bringing many new features and bugfixes, whereas Ubuntu only has 0.1.5
[18:23] <dmoerner> yettenet, you will have to compile it for yourself then. if i can i will make a backport for my ppa
[18:23] <qwerw> Cpudan80, http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5978900 thats where i got it
[18:23] <yettenet> 'kay
[18:24] <starenka> unop:  GB - as you see the scripts shows cpu & hdd(s) temperatures... it only shows the hdd size for better orientation - as i know which is where (in pc case)
[18:24] <qwerw> GeForce 6150
[18:24] <Cpudan80> qwerw: that should definitely detect your gfx cad
[18:24] <Rakeer> what is the name of the 'rar' support pkg
[18:24] <jinjan> http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=gG_ORk3EFnU
[18:24] <starenka> !unrar | Rakeer
[18:24] <yettenet> Thanks for the help anyway, see ya
[18:25] <Cpudan80> qwerw: Not really sure what to tell you
[18:25] <luis__> Need help new to linux my audio went off after installed all the new updates, can some one help? i need sound
[18:25] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: let me try to install the "New Driver"
[18:25] <Cpudan80> qwerw: you could try sudo apt-get install nvidia ... but... that should have been detected
[18:25] <Cpudan80> !patience | luis_
[18:25] <Rakeer> !info unrar-free
[18:25] <nicholaspaul> Has anyone had trouble with their keyboard, where the numberpad keys just wont work?
[18:25] <nicholaspaul> ... and dont suggest the NUM LOCK key!!
[18:25] <woli> jrib, no clue of sound juicer...
[18:26] <Cpudan80> luis_: Just bustin your chops - so your sound went out after doing the recent updates?
[18:26] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: im on 8.04 with live cd if that has anything to do with it
[18:26] <Cpudan80> qwerw: it should still be detected by the live CD
[18:26] <jinjan> http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=8sGwiWVhsv8
[18:26] <legend2440> nicholaspaul: try hitting   shift+num lock
[18:27] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: its downloading files right now eta 1 minute
[18:27] <nicholaspaul> legend2440: ....damn. That worked. HAHAH Thanks!
[18:27]  * nicholaspaul slaps foreheard
[18:27]  * nicholaspaul then slaps his own forehead.
[18:27] <jrib> woli: find ~/.gconf ! -user $USER
[18:28] <alvarezp> legend2440: what does shift+numlock do?
[18:28] <legend2440> alvarezp: on mine it toggles numer pad on and off
[18:28] <SherlawkDragon> hey, can I install Ubuntu on an ext3, or does it have to be ext2
[18:28] <woli> jrib, do i replace user and USER for my username?
[18:28] <legend2440> alvarezp: on mine it toggles number pad on and off
[18:28] <jrib> woli: no, that happens automatically
[18:28] <ssamoon> hey yall... i am trying to install ubuntu onto a drive with 4 partitions already, how do i do this? or can anyone point me to a guide? i have another linux version on this computer that is using 4 partitions already... there is 50 GB on the drive unallocated which I would like to instal ubuntu into, and use my existing swap and home partitions..
[18:28] <woli> ok
[18:29] <woli> nothing happens...
[18:29] <woli> ssamoon, i can help you
[18:29] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: just finished installing, and nothing. Checked screen res scren, and hrdwar screen same as before
[18:29] <bbeattie> Does 8.04 install certain packages or configure itself during install to work with a specific processor?  I'm wondering if I can do a straight swap of one drive to a new system without needing to follow up in any way.
[18:29] <jrib> woli: open gconf-editor, and see what happens when you switch profiles
[18:29] <ssamoon> woli: k.. i am on teh ubuntu live cd right now, 1 sec
[18:29] <white_eagle> hello, I'm the guy with the sound problem. I booted into recovery mode and there were 4 things you needed to choose from, I chose the "repair packages" option, but it required packages to be downloaded from the server, I didn't drop to root shell (because I think I don't have to) and I didn't chose fix X server because it's alright (is it??)
[18:30] <Cpudan80> qwerw: you have to restart X
[18:30] <Cpudan80> qwerw: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[18:30] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: can i don that on live cd?
[18:30] <Cpudan80> qwerw: yes, the login is ubuntu with no password
[18:30] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: ok if i do that will it put me into a command prompt or what?
[18:31] <Cpudan80> qwerw: It puts you back at the login screen
[18:31] <vadi> Hi
[18:31] <qwerw> ok
[18:31] <white_eagle> anyone knows how can I fix the sound, I need it back
[18:31] <SherlawkDragon> hey, can I install Ubuntu on an ext3, or does it have to be ext2\
[18:31] <qwerw> Give me a minute then
[18:31] <SherlawkDragon> the FS I mean
[18:31] <ubuntunub> ext3 works
[18:31] <ubuntunub> i think
[18:31] <Cpudan80> SherlawkDragon: if it is newer ubuntu, you can use ext3
[18:31] <SherlawkDragon> thanks.
[18:31] <SherlawkDragon> Cpudan80> how new?
[18:31] <vadi> i have a problem with my login screen
[18:31] <woli> jrib, is that there is like a menu of audio formats in the sound juicer prefs... In that menu, MP3 does not appear, but when I click the "Edit" button next to it, I can see a lot of more formats...
[18:31] <Cpudan80> SherlawkDragon: like FF and higher I think
[18:31] <jinjan> 中國人
[18:32] <Cpudan80> SherlawkDragon: so 7.04 and higher I guess
[18:32] <SherlawkDragon> Cpudan80> it's a 2 year old LiveCD
[18:32] <Cpudan80> SherlawkDragon: download the new one
[18:32] <luis__> can any one tell me why my sound went out after updating?
[18:32] <qwerw> cpudan80, nothing
[18:32] <ubuntunub> why would you even use an older one, just get a newer one
[18:32] <vadi> login screen is very big and i couldn't see the username column any solutions plz
[18:32] <Cpudan80> luis_: What does System --> admin --> sound  say?
[18:32] <white_eagle> SherlawkDragon: you there?
[18:32] <SherlawkDragon> Cpudan80> that takes hours, I'll just continue with this one, thanks...
[18:33] <Cpudan80> qwerw: What does it say in screens and graphics?
[18:33] <rredd4> installing 8.0.4 desktop, system installed ok, but now there is black on the top half of my screen and pink on the bottom half.  why?
[18:33] <SherlawkDragon> white_eagle> yeah, why?
[18:33] <newton> Hello, it might be a bit noobish, but i tried to install CPanel, and now i can't become root anymore, someone can help me out with this?
[18:33] <jrib> woli: mine shows up in the menu.  Open sound-juicer from a terminal and look for interesting output?
[18:33] <Cpudan80> SherlawkDragon: You on dialup or something?
[18:33] <ether_c> Hi, I have an ipod touch, but no wireless router. Does anyone know how to transfer songs to/from it?
[18:33] <ubuntunub> SherlawkDragon: sounds like your bandwidth sucks :/
[18:33] <jinjan>   規模較小的球
[18:33] <Cpudan80> !cn | jinjan
[18:33] <unop> starenka, don't think i have anything as brief. If your script is for your use only, then what you have now is ok .. but otherwise, have a look at this http://pastebin.com/d596c46e8
[18:33] <SherlawkDragon> no, just the hardware...
[18:33] <Cpudan80> or maybe that's japanese..
[18:33] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80:  you mean the resolution screen? it has listed everything under 800X600 and 800X600
[18:33] <jrib> ether_c: you need windows or os-x
[18:33] <newton> Hello, it might be a bit noobish, but i tried to install CPanel, and now i can't become root anymore, someone can help me out with this?
[18:34] <Cpudan80> !jn > jinjan
[18:34] <white_eagle> SherlawkDragon: I did as you told me, booted into recovery mode and a dialogue came up with 4 things to choose from (resume, fix broken packages, drop to root shell and fix X server) what should I choose from theme?
[18:34] <ether_c> jrib: I was afraid of that
[18:34] <SherlawkDragon> most of it is the 4x burning....
[18:34] <ether_c> stupid apple products..
[18:34] <woli> jrib, no output at all....
[18:34] <white_eagle> newton: 'su' in a shell doesn't work?
[18:34] <ether_c> worse than MS..
[18:34] <newton> nope
[18:34] <ubuntunub> 4x burning is fine, 16x burning took me about 4 minutes to do
[18:34] <jrib> ether_c: check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[18:34] <ubuntunub> so 16 minutes or so for you i guess?
[18:34] <woli> jrib, should it be some gstreamer thing missing?
[18:34] <newton> white_eagle: -bash: /bin/su: Permission denied
[18:34] <vadi> any solution to fix login screen resolution problem
[18:34] <SherlawkDragon> white_eagle> I don't know, I wasn't the one who told you to do that, someone else did... I just told you how
[18:34] <ubuntunub> 16 minutes is nothing, go eat something while u wait
[18:34] <Cpudan80> qwerw: open a command prompt and type gksu displayconfig-gtk
[18:34] <ether_c> jrib: thanks, but I don't have wifi here
[18:34] <jrib> ether_c: but I see a lot of mention of ssh, yeah :/
[18:34] <qwerw> Cpudan80: performing
[18:35] <CHC> many times(but not always) when i hit back while browsing on sftp,nautilus crashes and my desktop icons disappear, also,unrealated to this,i have issues with a usb thumb drive,i/o errors and before it said it was a read only filesystem,but before i could add files fine
[18:35] <unop> !sudo | newton, white_eagle
[18:35] <white_eagle> SherlawkDragon: i wonder who was it, please if you can look up and tell me who it was?
[18:35] <SherlawkDragon> looking
[18:35] <junior_> alguem do brasil ai pra me dar uma ajuda?
[18:35] <white_eagle> unop: he wants to have a root shell
[18:35] <ubuntunub> !sudo > ubuntunub
[18:35] <newton> rofl i know SherlawkDragon
[18:35] <FarmCretin> is there a way to see what type of memory my computer is using? i want to upgrade it.
[18:35] <newton> but look:
[18:35] <starenka> unop: yes sript  is for me... thanx - it uses hal to mine the info, right?
[18:35] <newton> -bash: /bin/su: Permission denied
[18:35] <unop> white_eagle, newton, use sudo instead
[18:35] <newton> SherlawkDragon: -bash: /bin/su: Permission denied
[18:35] <unop> white_eagle, newton .   sudo -i
[18:35] <luis__> It says auto detect
[18:35] <newton> unop : udo: must be setuid root
[18:35] <newton> unop : sudo: must be setuid root (*)
[18:36] <unop> white_eagle, the root account is not enabled on ubuntu, so su will always fail
[18:36] <bobertdos> FarmCretin: sudo lshw in the terminal
[18:36] <unop> newton, heh, how did you manage to do that?
[18:36] <white_eagle> unop: oh, I enabled it i forgot
[18:36] <newton> cpanel did it,
[18:36] <white_eagle> unop: sorry
[18:36] <newton> unop: some stupid lamer told me cpanel could work on ubuntu
[18:36] <starenka> whats, the easiest way to add a path into $PATH?
[18:37] <Cpudan80> starenka: edit ~/.bashrc
[18:37] <unop> newton, you will need to boot up into recovery mode and run this command.  chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo
[18:37] <SherlawkDragon> can't find it.
[18:37] <newton> yeah, but i can't access it directly :S
[18:37] <newton> unop: that server doesn;t stands next to me :S
[18:37] <bobertdos> starenka: or if you just want to do it locally for yourself, edit /etc/environment
[18:37] <SherlawkDragon> anyway...
[18:37] <SherlawkDragon> off again...
[18:37] <rredd4> how do i fix fsck.ext3 "unable to resolve 'UUID=<uuid # here>  also: fack died with exit status 8   i am doing a new install of 8.0.4
[18:37] <Cpudan80> starenka: At the bottom add   export PATH=$PATH:/your/neat/stuff/here:/more/neat/stuff
[18:37] <unop> newton, you're pretty much stuck then .. your service provider might have some recovery procedure you can follow
[18:37] <starenka> what should i iadd into .bashrc?
[18:37] <ubuntunub> SherlawkDragon: don't be lazy and impatient and get yourself Ubuntu 8.04
[18:38] <starenka> oh
[18:38] <starenka> Cpudan80: tahnx
[18:38] <white_eagle> SherlawkDragon: ok, thanks anyway
[18:38] <Cpudan80> np
[18:38] <newton> unop: i own that server, but its located elsewhere :S
[18:38] <luis__> cpudan80: yes it did
[18:38] <bigfdaddy> Quick question: if my /home is on hda while my / is on sda. Where should I put GRUB?
[18:38] <Bhavesh> sda
[18:38] <unop> starenka, echo 'export PATH="$PATH":/new/dir' >> ~/.bashrc
[18:38] <Bhavesh> i think
[18:38] <Cpudan80> qwerw: So what does it say?
[18:38] <CHC> many times(but not always) when i hit back while browsing on sftp,nautilus crashes and my desktop icons disappear, also,unrealated to this,i have issues with a usb thumb drive,i/o errors and before it said it was a read only filesystem,but before i could add files fine
[18:39] <newton> unop: is there no other way to kinda start recovery mode?
[18:39] <unop> newton, well, what can i say? without sudo you can't become root
[18:39] <Cpudan80> luis_: yes it did what?
[18:39] <starenka> unop: thanx, already been advised
[18:39] <bigfdaddy> Bhavesh: that's what I thought as well. I just can't find documention to back it up
[18:39] <ubuntunub> Where can I find performance options in Ubuntu? Things like setting max. CPU frequency, etc.?
[18:39] <starenka> unop: ;)
[18:39] <unop> starenka, :)
[18:39] <luis__> my sound went out
[18:39] <djhash> bigfdaddy: on whichever the bios looks into first for booting. either. but recomended to be on the / drive
[18:39] <unop> newton, are you sshed in at the moment?
[18:39] <rredd4> fsck fails on new install, how do i fix?
[18:39] <Cpudan80> starenka: you can do that to set any variable ---- export VAR=stuff
[18:39] <newton> unop: Yes
[18:39] <qwerw> Cpudan80, nvr seen that before. It detects my monitor as plug and play. I think your on to shomething. I changed the type of monitor to a high resolution tested it it does a gray screen with an x as a curser i let it sit and it pops back to ubutnu givning an error about a wrong screen
[18:40] <bigfdaddy> djhash: thanks. that makes the most sense.
[18:40] <Cpudan80> qwerw: I was more interested in the graphics card tab
[18:40] <starenka> Cpudan80: yes i know, but i forget HOW :))))  the export thing was the problem :))
[18:40] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: oh, lol
[18:40] <Cpudan80> qwerw: But - yeah - sometimes you have to change the monitor driver too
[18:40] <starenka> Cpudan80: i kept rewriting it on and on again :)))
[18:40] <qwerw> ﻿Cpudan80: took a look at that as well. im not sure it detected something
[18:40] <white_eagle> please help me fix the sound problem
[18:40] <starenka> beep
[18:40] <unop> newton, there is no legit. way
[18:41] <qwerw> but it detected something**
[18:41] <brightwebworks> Hi, I compiled the new newest stable version of the kernel. The NVidia Geforce video card is no longer giving me higher resolutions. What might have caused me to loose my screen resolution
[18:41] <white_eagle> I upgraded the kernel and now sound isn't working
[18:41] <starenka> white_eagle: alsa?
[18:41] <newton> unop: but u mean there is 'a' way?
[18:41] <unop> newton, how did you manage to upset the permissions on /usr/bin/sudo ?
[18:41] <newton> unop: an unsupported way, well unop i didnt' by cpanel installtion did, better i didn't even tried the damn thing
[18:42] <brightwebworks> aleatorio Oi
[18:42] <unop> newton, well, you could compromise your server by some exploit of some kind  .. but that's beyond the scope of this channel.
[18:42] <white_eagle> please help me fix the sound problem
[18:42] <white_eagle> I upgraded the kernel and now sound isn't working
[18:42] <newton> unop: ehm :S
[18:42] <PriceChild> brightwebworks: the fact tha you installed your own kernel
[18:42] <Syco54645_AAO> i have a question about compiling the kernel in ubuntu.  i am using the "old" method but having some issues.  it says to run fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-some-string-here kernel-image kernel-headers so do i point that to my current kernel image?  what if i am building the latest, do I still point to the current kernel image?
[18:42] <SherlawkDragon> white_eagle> this is a common problem...
[18:42] <azzimut>  hi there! have a problem and need help! ;) i have a Roland Edirol PC-50 keabord and i'd like to play it in ubuntu but i have problems to get it installed properly and also with the sound configuration of my computer... could anyone in here help me?
[18:42] <SherlawkDragon> not sure how they're fixing it though...
[18:42] <aleatorio> brightwebworks: oi
[18:42] <bobertdos> white_eagle: Have you read the wiki entry on sound troubleshooting?
[18:42] <PriceChild> brightwebworks: you will need to recompile the nvidia kernel module, and you shouldn't use different kernels unless you know what you're doing - its not worth it
[18:42] <Cpudan80> hrm...
[18:42] <aleatorio> quem é vc? brightwebworks
[18:43] <Cpudan80> a lot of people in here today with a sound prob
[18:43] <newton> unop: i mean, it must be possible to start je recovery mode, without restart & from remote :S
[18:43] <brightwebworks> PriceChild: Right. So I have to patch the kernel with the latest nvidia drivers for my card and the re-compile it?
[18:43] <PriceChild> brightwebworks: no
[18:43] <Cpudan80> I wonder if there is a problem with the new kernel
[18:43] <rredd4> how do i fix fsck.ext3 "unable to resolve 'UUID=<uuid # here>  also: fack died with exit status 8   i am doing a new install of 8.0.4
[18:43] <Syco54645_AAO> or am i reading this wrong?
[18:43] <PriceChild> brightwebworks: you need to recompile the nvidia kernel module
[18:43] <brightwebworks> aleatorio: Vi o teu whois e monstrou que era do Brasil...ehehe..
[18:43] <PriceChild> !br | brightwebworks aleatorio
[18:43] <qwerw> cpudan80, think i got it the lcd though im not sure if it will stay like that if i accept it. I have to scroll over to the top and left to see the box that tells me to accept
[18:44] <aleatorio> brightwebworks: isso é um problema, depois que baniram o Tor nem posso me passar por indiano
[18:44] <Cpudan80> qwerw: then you set the res too high
[18:44] <brightwebworks> PriceChild: There are no modules for my version. I read once about a program called Envy.
[18:44] <PriceChild> brightwebworks: why are you using your own kernel?
[18:44] <unop> newton, well no, you need to be root (via sudo) to be able to change runlevels or shutdown/reboot etc .. but you can't use sudo, so you have a catch 22.
[18:44] <bobertdos> Cpudan80: Heh, there are ALWAYS tons of people in here with sound problems :p
[18:44] <PriceChild> brightwebworks: no need for envy
[18:44] <Cpudan80> qwerw: Generally speaking, 1280x1024 is a safe bet
[18:44] <Btb125> Hi, has anybody used "BurnIN Test" [ http://www.passmark.com/products/bit.htm ] - Either way, does anybody know any application like this for a linux system?
[18:44] <white_eagle> what wiki entry?
[18:44] <Cpudan80> bobertdos: true - but a lot seem to have come in in the last 5 minutes
[18:44] <brightwebworks> PriceChild: I want to learn more about Linux.
[18:44] <azzimut>  hi there! have a problem and need help! ;) i have a Roland Edirol PC-50 keabord and i'd like to play it in ubuntu but i have problems to get it installed properly and also with the sound configuration of my computer... could anyone in here help me?
[18:44] <guntbert> newton: only if you got a "remote access card" in your server, I'm afraid
[18:45] <qwerw> Cpudan80, i had it set on 1024X something     it did the smae thing when testing at 800X600
[18:45] <Cpudan80> !patience | azzimut
[18:45] <white_eagle> no I haven't read it, will you kindly link to it?
[18:45] <bobertdos> !sound > white_eagle
[18:45] <PriceChild> brightwebworks: actually using linux will get you a lot further than recompiling the kernel imo. Learn as you go, small steps.
[18:45] <Cpudan80> qwerw: well - that's how you go about fixing it
[18:45] <brightwebworks> PriceChild: I agree.
[18:45] <Cpudan80> qwerw: I dont know what else to tell you
[18:45] <brightwebworks> PriceChild: Just playing with Linux...nothing serious...
[18:45] <Cpudan80> ok - moving right along!
[18:46] <Cpudan80> azzimut: what's up with your sound?
[18:46] <bobertdos> Cpudan80: Hmm, you're right..........Gah, stupid Pulse.......
[18:46] <PriceChild> brightwebworks: recompiling the kernel is one of the most serious things you can do..
[18:46] <brightwebworks> PriceChild: I will re-compile the kernel and then I will come back here. So I am OUT. thanks...
[18:46] <Cpudan80> bobertdos: I switched back to ALSA
[18:46] <nick01> please help ! I cant get it above 800x600 no matter what  and also glx wont load it says Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found but they appear the same version
[18:46] <qwerw> cpudan80: i think you on to something though. i did 1280 and pressed test it looked good. so i presed ok and ok again it closed but how do i get it permenent? restart X?
[18:46] <Btb125> Could anybody help me with installing windows drivers on a ubuntu system or point me in the direction of a guide. Thanks in advance
[18:46] <Gnea> Btb125: windows drivers? what for?
[18:46] <Btb125> atheros wireless pci card
[18:47] <Cpudan80> brightwebworks: recompiling the kernel will prob take all day
[18:47] <Cpudan80> brightwebworks: see you tomorrow!
[18:47] <Gnea> just use the atheros linux driver
[18:47] <bobertdos> Cpudan80: Yeah, even though I'm on Hardy, I think my install defaulted to ALSA just because my chip is so old.
[18:47] <Cpudan80> qwerw: don't press test - press OK and restart X
[18:47] <Btb125> Gnea = i was told something about "ndiswrapper" ??
[18:47] <PriceChild> Btb125: that should work out the box... could you pastebin the output of lspci and lsusb please?
[18:47] <PriceChild> Btb125: i don't believe ndiswrapper should be needed
[18:47] <john_help_radeon> Hey guys, Im still trying to work out issues with my Radeon x1650 in Hardy Heron, Is anyone here experienced with this card or ones similar and trying to get drivers working? I don't care if they are open source, or w/e. They don't need to do any 3D at all really (though it'd be nice) but 2D Acceleration is pretty neccesary..
[18:47] <Norzz> After installing Themes from the Synaptic Manager, how can I get to enable them?
[18:48] <Gnea> !ndiswrapper | Btb125
[18:48] <woli> jrib, any ideas left?
[18:48] <Gnea> Btb125: the process is explained there, you'll need the .inf file
[18:48] <rredd4> on startup of 8.0.4 it says to type control D for maintenance, fsck error, what do i do
[18:48] <PriceChild> Gnea: Btb125 ndiswrapper most likely *isn't* needed...
[18:49] <lincsie> Hi. I can't get direct rendering working with nvidia. the nvidia module is loaded and nvidia-glx-new is installed. However, /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so still points to libmesa libs instead instead of pointing to the nvidia libs. How can I solve this ? Can I just remove those files and link them to the correct nvidia libs ??
[18:49] <Btb125> thanks Gnea. im on a windows hdd atm, what good irc is there for ubuntu so i can install it and come on here and paste the pci stuff?
[18:49] <jrib> woli: you can try to figure out where the profiles are stored and make sure everything is ok
[18:49] <john_help_radeon> It's an RV530LE chip btw, that I'm having trouble with
[18:49] <PriceChild> Btb125: pidgin comes by default, but xchat is my personal favourite.
[18:49] <Gnea> Btb125: xchat or irssi... and don't paste directly into the channel, please
[18:49] <Gnea> !pastebin | Btb125
[18:49]  * SherlawkDragon needs bandwidth to download new ubuntu.  going off.
[18:49] <john_help_radeon> ckyle helped me a ton and I think i've made progress, but im still not working :/
[18:50] <dekushrub> I need help setting up DVD codecs on my ubuntu 8.04 laptop. I installed restricted extras but when I put in a dvd it said the resource couldn't be read
[18:51] <henux> I have just installed basic Ubuntu without DE. What is the package to install X?
[18:51] <henux> xinit, xserver, xorg ?
[18:51] <Tuv0k> you guys should read first
[18:52] <rredd4> 8.04.1 does not install correctly... help please
[18:52] <Tuv0k> henux, apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[18:52] <PriceChild> henux: 'just' x?
[18:52] <henux> Tuv0k: NO
[18:52] <henux> i dont want to have GNOME etc
[18:52] <PriceChild> henux: I 'think' xserver-xorg
[18:52] <henux> i just want X with Fluxbox and SLim
[18:52] <RemsSs> hi everybody
[18:52] <Tuv0k> apt-get Fluxbox CAPS man
[18:52] <henux> hi
[18:52] <MoonUnit> check out this for playing dvds https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:52] <dmoerner> henux, xserver-xorg fluxbox slim
[18:52] <Asterix_> I'm looking to downgrade from 8.04 and I've read on the forums that if my home folder is on a seperate partition this is a lot easier.  If my system monitor says that /home is on /dev/sda2 and / is on /dev/sda1 does this mean I'm okay?
[18:52] <PriceChild> henux: well then just install the fluxbox packages, and that'll bring in x as dependecies
[18:53] <Tuv0k> !xorg
[18:53] <henux> PriceChild: it did not
[18:53] <FineGirl1> Hello who has Uk bank logins or Us bank logins Paypal pm me and lets earn instant Cash
[18:53] <henux> dmoerner: got it
[18:53] <Gnea> !ops | FineGirl1
[18:53] <PriceChild> henux: Then I guess a bug needs filing.
[18:53] <PriceChild> henux: xserver-xorg should do it.
[18:53] <henux> PriceChild: maybe
[18:53] <henux> k
[18:53] <Tuv0k> !spam | FineGirl1
[18:53] <PiercedWolf> Boooooooooom!
[18:54] <dmoerner> PriceChild, i don't think so...I don't believe pulling in an X app ever results in automatically pulling in X if its not installed yet
[18:54] <john_help_radeon> Hey ckyle are ya there?
[18:54] <Tuv0k> dmoerner, i you try to pull in Fluxbox without X, X will piggyback
[18:55] <starenka> !network-manager
[18:55] <TJ13820> Does anyone know a good way to get ubuntu server to install on to a compaq proliant server (ML530)?
[18:55] <Bhavesh> any recommended cli torrent client with remote management?
[18:55] <dmoerner> Tuv0k, it pulls in a bunch of x libs but not the x server, unless i'm missing something in apt-cache depends
[18:55] <PriceChild> Bhavesh: rtorrent... and ssh?
[18:56] <Bhavesh> PriceChild : i am looking into rtorrent.. it's ncurses based from what i read. i don't mind though i can always put it in bg
[18:56] <henux> okay xserver-xorg installed, what is the correct way to config it and start it?
[18:56] <PriceChild> !screen | Bhavesh
[18:56] <Bhavesh> PriceChild i use screen all the time :)
[18:56] <Bhavesh> brb
[18:56] <henux> i have only text terminal linux atm
[18:56] <PriceChild> henux: it is already configured
[18:56] <Tuv0k> dmoerner, I set requirements to act as dependents
[18:57] <dmoerner> ah
[18:57] <henux> PriceChild: i dont need to modify the xorg.conf etc.?
[18:57] <dan_> Could anyone please help me and tell what the name of the feature in Compiz Fusion, which does a cube when you tab through windows, is?
[18:57] <PriceChild> henux: nope
[18:57] <henux> k
[18:57] <henux> and what is the correct way to start it up? startx?
[18:58] <tiina> hej vet någon här vad superuser betyder när man ska ladda en ny version av sin grafikkort ati och varför går det inte ladda såvida man inte är SUPERUSER???Hur blir jag det
[18:58] <PriceChild> henux: you probably something like gdm to make it easier?
[18:58] <PriceChild> !se | tiina
[18:58] <bobertdos> dan_ Desktop Cube and Rotate Cube
[18:58] <henux> PriceChild: i have SLIm
[18:58] <henux> i told you earlier
[18:58] <henux> SLim*
[18:58] <dan_> bobertdos: thx (;
[18:58] <Jackiz> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/KOREMIN+Emerald+Compiz-Fusion+theme?content=65646 how can i install that ?
[18:58] <tiina> nån somvet Vad SUPERUSER e i ubuntu o linux
[18:58] <PriceChild> henux: no idea what that is sorry
[18:59] <unop> tiina, what language are you speaking?
[18:59] <henux> oh
[18:59] <Gnea> !se > tiina
[18:59] <Jackiz> swedish tiina
[18:59] <Jackiz> join #ubuntu-se
[18:59] <Jackiz> instead
[18:59] <imyojimbo> does anyone of you know of a dot net channel
[18:59] <Gnea> imyojimbo: #dotnet?
[18:59] <Jackiz> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/KOREMIN+Emerald+Compiz-Fusion+theme?content=65646 how can i install that ?
[18:59] <tiina> I was uppdating ati grphiccard but cannot do it because of gettin up SUPER USER...???
[19:00] <djhash> !se
[19:00] <tiina> why do i have to be a superuser?
[19:00] <Gnea> tiina: use sudo
[19:00] <tiina> I do but cannot do it???
[19:00] <unop> tiina, because normal users cannot make changes to the system
[19:00] <Gnea> !sudo | tiina
[19:00] <tiina> need to be SUPERUSER
[19:01] <unop> tiina, how are you updating the drivers?
[19:03] <Jackiz> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/KOREMIN+Emerald+Compiz-Fusion+theme?content=65646 how can i install that ?
[19:03] <Asterix_> I'm looking to downgrade from 8.04 and I've read on the forums that if my home folder is on a seperate partition this is a lot easier.  If my system monitor says that /home is on /dev/sda2 and / is on /dev/sda1 does this mean I'm okay?
[19:04] <FarmCretin> ok, so im looking at lshw right now and see i have SDRAM. but looking at frys.com, i see things like pc66 and pc133. what are these and what am should i be looking for?
[19:04] <unop> Asterix_, that means your /home is on a separate partition, so i guess that means yes
[19:05] <zethero1> can someone test the AWN repo .... its not working fro me
[19:05] <rangerzj> join/ubuntu.it
[19:05] <Asterix_> unop: thanks for them help :)
[19:05] <henux> "Fatal Server Error: No valid font path could be found"
[19:06] <unop> FarmCretin, that's the frequency at which RAM operates -- consult your motherboard documentation for which frequencies it supports
[19:06] <rangerzj> scusate per andare su ubuntu.it??  Grazie
[19:07] <btb125> Gnea: There?
[19:07] <Thanatoast> How can I expand all folders in nautilus instead of just one at a time?
[19:07] <guntbert> !it | rangerzj
[19:08] <guntbert> rangerzj: /join #ubuntu-it
[19:08] <btb125> I was told that my atheros wireless should work automatically, but it isnt :\
[19:08] <CHC> many times(but not always) when i hit back while browsing on sftp,nautilus crashes and my desktop icons disappear, also,unrealated to this,i have issues with a usb thumb drive,i/o errors and before it said it was a read only filesystem,but before i could add files fine
[19:09] <rangerzj> grazie e scusate l'intrusione :)
[19:09]  * SplItz is away: eating
[19:09] <bbq^> btb125, have u installed the drivers. I have atheros to
[19:09] <btb125> bbq^: nope
[19:09]  * SplItz is back (gone 00:00:26)
[19:09] <bbq^> well there is a fix for it, hold on i get you a link
[19:09] <henux> i have no font paths set in my xorg.conf, do i need to install some package for the fonts? it wants fonts and it does not start without them
[19:10] <btb125> bbq^: i was given the link and told some stuff about ndiswrapper :s
[19:10] <unop> henux, why don't you try using X without a xorg.conf ?
[19:10] <henux> unop: how?
[19:11] <unop> henux, move it out of the way.  sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.bak}
[19:11] <bbq^> nah man, this should help http://madwifi.org/ticket/1192
[19:11] <bbq^> and read this first btb125
[19:11] <henux> bbq^: i suppose that is not for me?
[19:11] <henux> unop: ok
[19:12] <penguin42> hi
[19:12] <bbq^> http://blogs.linuxoss.com/2008/05/ubuntu-804-enabling-ar5007-based-wireless/
[19:12] <henux> unop: "Fatal Server Error: No valid FontPath could be found"
[19:12] <bbq^> henux it isif you are trying to update atheros wireless card
[19:12] <henux> i am not
[19:12] <penguin42> A kernel bug I filed has a note on to try it with 2.6.27 - however this bug happens on my stable machine I still have Hardy on - are there 2.6.27 packages built for Hardy?
[19:13] <unop> henux, so, you are starting X via startx?
[19:13] <henux> unop: i need to have FontPaths in my xorg.conf but i suppose i dont have them installe
[19:13] <henux> unop: no i use "X"
[19:13] <bbq^> btb125, Read the second link i sent you, and do the disable Atheros Hardware acces Layer (HAL) then follow the support ticket link i sent
[19:13] <unop> henux, how exactly?
[19:13] <henux> unop: i write "X<enter>"
[19:13] <bbq^> btb125, ? Are you with me
[19:13] <unop> henux, the better way is to use startx
[19:14] <henux> unop: check from your xorg.conf if you wish, there must be FontPath sections
[19:14] <unop> henux, it sets up everything for you
[19:14] <henux> unop: no that is not correct
[19:14] <unop> henux, i don't have a xorg.conf
[19:14] <btb125> bbq^: reading the howTo
[19:14] <henux> startx is xinit thing i have been told
[19:14] <henux> unop: i am trying to setup a SLIM with Fluxbox
[19:14] <henux> both of those are installed
[19:14] <unop> henux, and xinit starts /usr/bin/X by default
[19:14] <henux> the X does not start
[19:14] <unop> henux, i use fluxbox too .. and use startx
[19:15] <henux> ok let me try that hold on
[19:15] <bbq^> ok mate, its a real pain in the ass to do. Basically disable the hal setting from the 2nd link then follow the support ticket btb125
[19:15] <henux> unop: the same, no fontpaths
[19:15] <henux> look the problem is fonts
[19:16] <unop> henux, did you install the xserver-xorg packages?
[19:16] <henux> yes
[19:16] <henux> sudo apt-get install xserver-org slim fluxbox
[19:16] <menakcman> I am unable to run flash players of any sort on my firefox , please help
[19:16] <henux> *xserver-xorg
[19:16] <unop> henux, xserver-org?
[19:16] <henux> typo
[19:16] <unop> ah
[19:16] <johnm1019> This weird behavior just cropped up -- whenever I open multiple documents they each get their own gEdit instance -- before, and how I liked it, was that gedit opened each one in the same instance in a new tab.  I can't find anything in options or preferences to change this.... help?
[19:17] <poont> Hi there, I am looking for an application to get wallpapers anyone know of one?
[19:17] <henux> poont: google
[19:17] <unop> henux, try this.  sudo aptitude install xfonts-{100dpi,75dpi,base}
[19:17] <poont> ah ok thought there might be a specific one
[19:17] <henux> ok
[19:17] <henux> thats it i think
[19:18] <unop> henux, also this package perhaps.  x11-xfs-utils
[19:18] <henux> !info x11-xfs-utils
[19:18] <henux> maybe
[19:18] <Primius> j #barcie.s2
[19:19] <emma> hi there :)
[19:19] <henux> this is going to take some time to install unop
[19:19] <henux> thanks for your help i think this is it
[19:19] <TJ13820> Does anyone know a good way to get ubuntu server to install on to a compaq proliant server (ML530)?
[19:19] <henux> hi emma
[19:19] <emma> henux :)
[19:19] <henux> :)
[19:19] <henux> did you hear what i am doing atm?
[19:20] <johnm1019> TJ13820, as long as you download the proper build for your cpu arch it should be like installing ubuntu server anywhere else
[19:20] <TJ13820> no
[19:20] <TJ13820> it isn't johm1019
[19:20] <henux> emma: im installing ubuntu with clean basic install and taking only fluxbox and no GNOME
[19:20] <TJ13820> as soon as it gets to "Installing extra software" it fails
[19:20] <TJ13820> after you select your username and password
[19:20] <Batmanifestdesti> hmmm....
[19:21] <Batmanifestdesti> I can't get Ubuntu to stop being paranoid...
[19:21] <emma> henux: i'd be interested in the best way to get the most 'clean basic' install also.
[19:21] <johnm1019> TJ13820, what arch?
[19:21] <Batmanifestdesti> when I try to update it through virtual box, it claims that I'm not "root"
[19:21] <TJ13820> i386 johnm1019
[19:21] <Batmanifestdesti> and says that I don't have admin authority
[19:21] <TJ13820> it is intel dual xeons at 866mhz
[19:21] <btb125> bbq^: i cant see any specific file to download
[19:22] <henux> unop: ok thanks X is working now :)))
[19:22] <Batmanifestdesti> does anyone else have this issue?
[19:22] <erikja> !motion
[19:22] <henux> emma: yeah the ubuntu basic install pulls all kinds of stuff
[19:22] <nandemonai> emma, start with a server base install and take it from there :)
[19:22] <Batmanifestdesti> where is emma:
[19:22] <Batmanifestdesti> ?*
[19:22] <Thanatoast> How can I expand all folders in nautilus instead of just one at a time?
[19:22] <henux> i installed mini.iso
[19:22] <emma> nandemonai: but doesn't that come with lots of server specific stuff that is also very heavy?
[19:22] <Batmanifestdesti> they appear to have died
[19:23] <Batmanifestdesti> nvm
[19:23] <bbq^> follow the link btb125 to madwife/ubuntu
[19:23] <emma> i am alive.
[19:23] <bbq^> or something similar
[19:23] <xaniel> anyone knows about workspace switcher bug in gnome
[19:23] <Batmanifestdesti> does anyone know why Ubuntu doesn't consider me as an admin?
[19:23] <nandemonai> emma, it's been a while but from memory you have the option to just to a base install, no servers, no gui etc just the base console.
[19:23] <johnm1019> TJ13820, sounds like u ought to file a bug report
[19:24] <xaniel> anyone know about workspace switcher in ubuntu gnome
[19:24] <emma> nandemonai: ahh in the server install you get that option?
[19:24] <TJ13820> johnm1019 - alot of people had the same issue, and some resolved some not. It is a problem with the compaq smart array 2 controller
[19:24] <nandemonai> emma, pretty sure yeah.
[19:24] <Batmanifestdesti> I can't get sound running, either
[19:24] <emma> cool i'm going to check that out.
[19:24] <bbq^> btb125, http://snapshots.madwifi.org/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6/
[19:24] <johnm1019> TJ13820, oh ok, well then u know where the problem lies
[19:24] <TJ13820> yeah,  but not a way to fix it
[19:25] <xaniel> looks like i cant select more than two desktops using compiz-fusion package
[19:25] <Batmanifestdesti> do you think I should turn off my virtual box, tweak the settings, and try again?
[19:25] <TJ13820> it seems like it can't write to the SCSI array just after the base system is installed.
[19:25] <johnm1019> TJ13820, im not sure if the ubuntu installer allows for loading of third party drivers but u might look for a source dev version for that driver, compile it yourself with different cflags for the arch and hot load them into the installer
[19:25] <johnm1019> TJ13820, sounds like a fixed driver is the only solution
[19:25] <schmolch> How can i use a different partition as my home folder? can i just enter it into fstab? and what about the permissions?
[19:25] <TJ13820> johnm1019 how do i do all of that???
[19:26] <johnm1019> TJ13820, well do you have a specific model for your array controller?
[19:26] <Batmanifestdesti> I'm going to go shut off my VM, then tweak with it to see if I can get stuff working
[19:26] <Batmanifestdesti> seeya
[19:26] <TJ13820> sym53c8xx
[19:26] <unop> schmolch, you probably want to copy your existing /home directory to the partition .. that would take care of permissions
[19:26] <nick01> how do I get compiz to show the bars above windows ?
[19:26] <TJ13820> johnm1019 sym53c8xx
[19:26] <nick01> it doesnt work with it
[19:27] <btb125> bbq^: I cant see any link from madwifi.org/ticket/1192 to anything like madwifi/ubuntu
[19:27] <nick01> or if thats not possible how do I disable compiz ?
[19:27] <schmolch> unop, so the permissions would not change just because its on a different partition then?
[19:27] <unop> schmolch, but yea, make an entry in /etc/fstab .. then do   sudo mount -a  # i guess /home would need to be empty for this to work too, so you should do this in recovery mode or from a live CD
[19:27] <bbq^> nah u have to download the file from there btb125 and make install yourself
[19:28] <bbq^> download extract, run ./configure make make install etc...
[19:28] <karab44> Hi! My source is not compile when using <vector> library. What do I need
[19:28] <johnm1019> TJ13820, well it looks like a lot of people have problems with this driver -- so I would either try and install an older version of Ubuntu server with an older driver that may work otherwise your probably SOL
[19:28] <bbq^> all as root
[19:28] <bbq^> thats the madwifi driver package for atheros
[19:28] <unop> schmolch, depends on how you copy the files over .. this should do.   sudo cp -a /home/* /path/to/mount_point/
[19:28] <schmolch> unop, i will try that, thank you.
[19:28] <TJ13820> johnm1019 - i'm sorry, the problem is, that driver BLOCKS my real driver for the compaq smart array! how do i disable it with boot flags?
[19:28] <btb125> bbq^: download then cd to the folder, make, then make install?
[19:28] <apu> Could someone tell me how to press "ok" on the gui interface when install java through the terminal and apt?
[19:29] <djhash> apu: use tab to navigate.. then space or enter
[19:29] <johnm1019> TJ13820, ok now we're getting somewhere (you probably should've said all that ^^ in your orig question line)
[19:29] <TJ13820> johnm1019, sorry xD
[19:29] <johnm1019> TJ13820, regular installs have module blacklists but since its an install CD i'm not sure how to modify that
[19:30] <TJ13820> johnm1019 - so how do you blacklist - period?
[19:30] <johnm1019> TJ13820,
[19:30] <johnm1019> TJ13820, http://www.the-little-things.net/blog/?p=32
[19:30] <FloodBot1> johnm1019: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:30] <apu> djhash: thanks, i will try it now
[19:30] <johnm1019> TJ13820, did that come thru?
[19:30] <bbq^> well btb download one of the .tar.gz files to desktop, extract it
[19:31] <bbq^> then open terminal, cd /madwififolder then make and install the driver
[19:31] <apu> djhash: Thanks a lot,
[19:31] <btb125> bbq^: tried and failed, error 2 then error 1 :s
[19:32] <btb125> make: *** [modules] Error 2
[19:32] <btb125> bbq^:
[19:32] <TJ13820> johnm1019 ah
[19:33] <TJ13820> johnm1019 now i have to find a way to black list upon booting from the install CD
[19:33] <bbq^> lol btb125 whats the error ? You may need to install some of the kernel libs and headers
[19:33] <johnm1019> TJ13820, yes, or get to a shell some point after kernel load and just rmmod it
[19:33] <bbq^> so u can build the file
[19:33] <btb125> which i can get from bbq^ ?
[19:34] <TJ13820> johnm1019 - http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/86/
[19:34] <Thanatoast> How can I expand all folders in nautilus instead of just one at a time?
[19:35] <TJ13820> johnm1019 - so is that working now :)
[19:35] <bbq^> lol using yast
[19:35] <bbq^> search for the name of the file that fails
[19:35] <bbq^> i am actually just installing suse on the laptop btb125 right now, so give me 5 minutes and i will have the exact same problems as u
[19:35] <btb125> lol
[19:35] <btb125> thanks
[19:35] <bbq^> lol
[19:36] <johnm1019> TJ13820, don't know -- I dont use ubuntu
[19:36] <bbq^> actually do me a favour, open your terminal type /sbin/lspci
[19:36] <bbq^> see if it list's your wireless there
[19:36] <btb125> no such file or dir
[19:37] <btb125> whats that lspci command?
[19:37] <TJ13820> johnm1019... *headdesk*
[19:37] <btb125> 14:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[19:38] <bbq^> sweet thats a good start then lol
[19:38] <Blacktides> Hello looking for someone who has WoW installed and running through wine?
[19:38] <NickGarvey> !wow | Blacktides
[19:39] <TJ13820> johnm1019 - sym53c8xx.blacklist=yes
[19:39] <btb125> bbq^: what is the command to see your network devices / NICs?
[19:39] <bbq^> actually this might be easier, btb125 try this link... http://en.opensuse.org/Atheros_madwifi
[19:39] <bbq^> iwconfig
[19:39] <bbq^> i think
[19:39] <bbq^> ifconfig
[19:39] <bbq^> btb125, log in as root first
[19:40] <jlewis_> what is the best DNS to block out rubbish from the net using Ubunntu?
[19:40] <btb125> ye
[19:40] <btb125> i am
[19:40] <bbq^> actually this might be easier, btb125 try this link... http://en.opensuse.org/Atheros_madwifi
[19:40] <btb125> typo?
[19:40] <mifritscher> hi
[19:40] <bbq^> try that using automatic install link mate, click on the little link at top for suse 11 (if your using 11)
[19:41] <mifritscher> will be uml or xen updated?
[19:41] <chombee> Anyone know how I can resize my ubuntu partitions? The current root and home partitions fill up the entire hard drive, and cannot be resized from within ubuntu cause they are in use. I cannot boot a livecd or from usb either. Any ideas? (if I could shrink the partition to make space for another one, I could extract an iso to the new one and boot from it.)
[19:42] <btb125> im using ubuntu
[19:42] <btb125> :(
[19:42] <btb125> ok to PM you bbq^ ?
[19:42] <Schuenemann> hey, can anyone explain me what is the "root" line in menu.lst ?
[19:42] <farid> hi btb 25
[19:42] <farid> how are u
[19:43] <btb125> farid: good thx, you?
[19:43] <bbq^> tea
[19:43] <unop> Schuenemann, it's the drive grub should select to use.
[19:43] <Santolina> hi, is there any kind of defragmentation tool in Linux that could be good run before making a partition cloning with partimage ?
[19:43] <Schuenemann> unop, how to I know the correct one?
[19:43] <farid> im fine
[19:43] <borkov> has anyone here gotten wireless to work on a dell xps m1330 with 8.04?
[19:43] <Blacktides> does anyone here play WoW on Linux?
[19:44] <farid> plz pm me
[19:44] <Schuenemann> unop, grub is on /dev/sda2 and the partition is /dev/sda3
[19:44] <borkov> ﻿has anyone here gotten wireless to work on a dell xps m1330 with 8.04? pm please
[19:45] <selje> if somebody has a solution for my ATI Radeon 2900 XT problem in ubuntu, please pm me:)
[19:45] <unop> Schuenemann,  grub starts counting from 0 .. I'm assuming that looks like /boot is on /dev/sda2, so root would be at the second partition of the second physical drive - which gives you.   root(hd1,1)
[19:46] <LordFDisk> Wondering anyone know ... would I get everything that I get in Ubuntu 8.04 if I installed ubuntustudio ?
[19:46] <unop> Schuenemann, if you are looking to install grub.. don't do this manually -- there are tools that do it all for you
[19:46] <Schuenemann> unop, it's already installed, I want to add a new entry
[19:47] <unop> Schuenemann, ok
[19:47] <Schuenemann> unop, isn't hd0 the current drive?
[19:47] <Nibbles> what is ubuntustudio
[19:47] <Thanatoast> How can I expand all folders in nautilus instead of just one at a time? Perhaps a script for it or a better place to ask?
[19:48] <unop> Schuenemann, in the context of a menu.lst that seems incomplete .. but no, it means the first physical drive
[19:48] <Vinterbound> Does somebody know how to make an image of a Linux system installation? (like Acronis Image does with Windows)
[19:49] <stwange> hey, I'm trying to find latex2pdf on ubuntu but I can't find the package. I have tetex installed. Is there an equivalent package?
[19:49] <Schuenemann> unop, I ask that because I installed a distro to a pendrive and menu.lst says hd0,1 (and it works)
[19:49] <Myrtti> stwange: hold on
[19:49] <unop> Vinterbound, you can use dd
[19:49] <Masry> I don't know if my computer is a Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM) or Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)
[19:49] <Nibbles> to update my ubuntu to the latest verysion ( my version is 7.10 ) i clicked update, but it told me some other app was using apt-get or something
[19:49] <TJ13820> unop: i'd like to know about that too. can you provide more info?
[19:49] <Masry> how do I know
[19:50] <eightyeight> i am trying to mount an xfs filesystem with the 'acl' mount option, but it's saying bad option. does the ubuntu kernel not support xfs acls?
[19:50] <unop> Schuenemann, that only means that that operating system boot from the second partition on the first harddrive -- current drive means different things depending on what was booted, best not to use the term "current" here
[19:50] <Vinterbound> thanks
[19:50] <unop> TJ13820, about what?
[19:50] <Nibbles> im feeling hostilities here when people leave
[19:50] <Nibbles> :(
[19:50] <TJ13820> unop: copying a hard drive image of ubuntu
[19:50] <Syco54645_AAO> hello, i have my /var directory on a tmpfs.  i am trying to recompile the kernel and all went well on boot until /var was not there.  what do i have to enable in the kernel to fix this?
[19:50] <Myrtti> stwange: texlive-latex-base
[19:51] <Schuenemann> unop, oh, but I'm booting directly from the USB flashdrive
[19:51] <sandy_22> hi
[19:51] <sandy_22> folks
[19:51] <stwange> Myrtti I think I might have found an equivalent with dvipdfm, if not I'll try that. Thanks
[19:51] <unop> Vinterbound, TJ13820, well if you want an exact image of a disk or partition.  sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/path/to/image
[19:51] <Nibbles> is it better to make a clean install of ubuntu 8.04 then updating my 7.10 ?
[19:51] <Schuenemann> unop, so hd0 is the first pendrive?
[19:51] <TJ13820> unop can you do that with ISO's?
[19:51] <Ashfire908> Kernel always gets priority over userspace, right?
[19:51] <J-_> How can I reconfigure X?
[19:52] <unop> TJ13820, what do you mean?
[19:52] <TJ13820> unop: for example make an iso of a hard drive
[19:52] <iMind> can anyone tell me where the temporary flash-files are stored on linux (when u stream a movie)?
[19:52] <eightyeight> anyone know if the ubuntu kernel supports xfs acls?
[19:52] <unop> Schuenemann, perhaps .. but it depends on your BIOS too, your BIOS might see the usb drive differently
[19:52] <Vinterbound> thanks unop
[19:52] <J-_> !xorg
[19:52] <Nibbles> unop , should i make a clean install of ubuntu 8.04 instead of clicking the update button ( newbie :( )
[19:53] <starenka> hi, how can i share via nfs to certain ips? i used  /home/ftp       192.168.1.*/255.255.255.0 in /etc/exports, but got "access denied" when mounting from other machine
[19:53] <J-_> !reconfigure
[19:53] <unop> Vinterbound, TJ13820 though i would suggest using something like tar to backup data on a partition.  dd copies freespace too, which is sometimes undesirable.  tar czf /path/to/backup.tar.gz /path/to/backup
[19:53] <Nibbles> !update
[19:53] <Schuenemann> unop, hmm... I think I'll test then
[19:54] <michael> Can someone please help me get my Atheros card working on hardy heron?
[19:54] <pixelmonkey> how do I control the name in /media a specific USB disk will be auto-mounted to in Ubuntu?
[19:54] <smanen> hello everyone
[19:54] <unop> Nibbles, it's totally up to you, i never do a fresh install because i don't want to lose the way i have things setup and configured
[19:54] <Nibbles> hello
[19:54] <smanen> can anyone help me to configure my ssh server?
[19:54] <Nibbles> thanks unop ( i dont have much things )
[19:54] <michael> Its an Atheros AR5212 and I can detect networks, but I can't connect to them!
[19:54] <michael> I'm on 8.04, has anyone had this problem?
[19:54] <unop> pixelmonkey, create an entry for the disk in /etc/fstab
[19:54] <smanen> it keeps refusing the connection
[19:55] <john_help> Hey all
[19:55] <Flannel> smanen: Where are you trying to conenct from?
[19:55] <starenka> hi, how can i share via nfs to certain ips? i used  /home/ftp       192.168.1.*/255.255.255.0 in /etc/exports, but got "access denied" when mounting from other machine
[19:55] <starenka> !patiance | starenka
[19:55] <drs305>  irc_conf_mode 1 apply
[19:55] <Schuenemann> unop, oh, what about the kernel and initrd lines?
[19:55] <smanen> Flannel: from my own computer
[19:55] <pixelmonkey> unop, ah, so could I just copy the entry from /etc/mtab to /etc/fstab and edit the mountpoint?
[19:55] <john_help> Hey I'm STILL having problems with my x1650 Pro, is there anyone here that has had any luck with a similar card?
[19:56] <michael> Can someone please help me? Atheros AR5212... anyone?
[19:56] <Flannel> !patience > starenka
[19:56] <starenka> :))
[19:56] <unop> pixelmonkey, well, mtab has a slightly different format to fstab .. but yea, as long as you get the fstab entry right, it should be fine
[19:56] <pixelmonkey> unop, hmm, the entry in /etc/mtab doesn't have a UUID in it... how can I find out the UUID?
[19:56] <unop> pixelmonkey, sudo blkid /dev/sdXX
[19:56] <Flannel> smanen: So, you're trying to connect to the server on the same computer?
[19:56] <unop> Schuenemann, what about them?
[19:56] <pixelmonkey> unop, that worked, thanks!
[19:56] <smanen> Flannel: i am behind a router and have already forwarded the 22 port
[19:56] <Azamat> Дай опFloodBot1:
[19:57] <john_help> I've tried open-source, manually editing xorg.conf, restricted drivers, flrgx, etc. etc.
[19:57] <scientus__> how do i replace my sever certificate with a real one?
[19:57] <smanen> Flannel: i thought i would be able to connect
[19:57] <starenka> !ru | Azamat
[19:57] <smanen> Flannel: i have also tried from another computer in the same network
[19:57] <Flannel> smanen: Same computer? or different computer?  if the latter, same LAN?
[19:57] <Azamat> Дай опFloodBot1:
[19:57] <Flannel> Azamat: english only here please.
[19:58] <Schuenemann> unop,  how should they be filled?
[19:58] <eightyeight> anyone know if the ubuntu kernel supports xfs acls?
[19:58] <michael> Please... anyone?  If I can't get this working, I can't use linux
[19:58] <smanen> Flannel: i have tried both: 1) from the same computer and 2) from another computer with windows in the same LAN
[19:58] <Azamat> Dai op
[19:58] <unop> Schuenemann, are you installing ubuntu on a USB drive?
[19:58] <sandy_22> :D
[19:58] <scientus__> how do i replace my sever certificate with a real one?
[19:59] <Flannel> smanen: Alright, lets try from windows on the same LAN.  You connect to the IP (192.168.whatever) and you still get connection refused?  are you sure that's the right IP?
[19:59] <Flannel> smanen: actually, first of all, do you have openssh-server installed?
[19:59] <Azamat> !opFloodBot1:
[19:59] <Myrtti> !english | Azamat
[19:59] <rangerzj> ubuntu.it
[19:59] <Schuenemann> unop, it already has ubuntu. I want to install a second distro. Actually, it is already installed, but I need to add its entry to grub
[19:59] <smanen> Flannel: i am able to connect from the other computer to 192.168.0.42 port 22(local id)
[20:00] <cemc> hi. i have a realy annoying problem with my soundcard/microphone/alsa. i boot
[20:00] <michael> Does anyone know where I can go to get help?  It seems like this chan is too busy...
[20:00] <Flannel> smanen: Alright, so you just can't connect from the external IP?
[20:00] <smanen> Flannel: yes i have it installed
[20:00] <smanen> Flannel: exactly
[20:00] <Sixofour> whats the rom name for firefox?
[20:00] <Sixofour> room
[20:00] <Flannel> smanen: Seems that your port forwarding is being done incorrectly
[20:01] <smanen> Flannel: i tried tcpdump port 22
[20:01] <Thanatoast> How can I expand all folders in nautilus instead of just one at a time? Perhaps a script for it or a better place to ask? Can anyone see my question?
[20:01] <unop> Schuenemann, well, the kernel and initrd lines don't change significantly .. just make sure that the files they point to exist
[20:01] <djhash> Sixofour: wanna try #firefox?!
[20:01] <Sixofour>  well #firefox doesn't exist apparently
[20:01] <Flannel> michael: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[20:01] <smanen> Flannel: it gave feedback when i connected to external ip with the same computer
[20:01] <bastid_raZor> Flannel; smanen some ISP's block port 22.. i have to forward 22 to 2222 to get it to work and any external attempt to connect i need to specify 2222 as the port
[20:01] <djhash> Sixofour: i just went there its full of people
[20:01] <Flannel> Sixofour: It's #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[20:02] <Sixofour> oh, not on freenode?
[20:02] <Sixofour> ah crap
[20:02] <Cpudan80> smanen: so you cant connect via the WAN, but you connect over the LAN?
[20:02] <michael> thank you, Flannel
[20:02] <Flannel> Sixofour: not the official one
[20:02] <smanen> Flannel: yes
[20:02] <Blacktides> anyone experienced issues with games "blinking"
[20:03] <Schuenemann> unop, like kernel should point to vmlinuz and initrd to the .gz file?
[20:03] <Azamat> :-)
[20:03] <smanen> Flannel: i guess it is a port forwarding issue
[20:03] <Cpudan80> smanen: I agree with Flannel -- what router are you using?
[20:03] <Free_Beer> how does one confirm a machine's video chipset?
[20:03] <smanen> Cpudan80: i have a Zyxel router
[20:03] <npope-laptop> Free_Beer: lspci
[20:03] <Flannel> smanen: It could very well be an ISP issue like bastid_raZor said.  We were going to get there in time :)
[20:03] <SonicEarth> HOW DO I INSTALL UBUNTU?
[20:04] <Flannel> !caps | SonicEarth
[20:04]  * bastid_raZor will stop jumping to far ahead.. 
[20:04] <e2k> is there any program to check if all the hardware in a laptop is working as intended on ubuntu? fans and such?
[20:04] <Cpudan80> smanen: hrm.... dont know anything about those... :-(
[20:04] <Flannel> SonicEarth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Standard%20installation  first four steps on that page
[20:04] <Azamat> ;-)
[20:04] <Cpudan80> SonicEarth: pop the disk in and boot off the CD
[20:04] <Flannel> Azamat: Please stop.  Keep non-support chatting out of this channel
[20:04] <SonicEarth> lol, I'm jyst kidding. I already have it installed.
[20:05] <Azamat> Дай оп
[20:05] <Flannel> SonicEarth: Please don't waste the time of the volunteers of this channel.
[20:05] <Cpudan80> !ops | Azamat
[20:05] <Free_Beer> npope - thanks.  Tried that.. return VIA as chipset and I'm pretty sure it's an nvidia type. (having ussies with screen resolution since last kernel update)
[20:05] <Free_Beer> issues*
[20:05] <smanen> Flannel: port forwarding has to do with NAT setup right?
[20:06] <Cpudan80> Free_Beer: are the nvidia drivers enabled (system --> admin --> hardware drivers)
[20:06] <Hagen> hi is there a gui to choose the driver of my graphics card?
[20:06] <Hagen> i use gnome
[20:06] <Cpudan80> Hagen: system --> admin --> hardware drivers
[20:06] <tknmb> hi
[20:06] <npope-laptop> System, Administration, Hardware Driver
[20:06] <npope-laptop> Cpudan80: beat me :)
[20:06] <Cpudan80> npope-laptop: I cheated a little bit
[20:06] <Free_Beer> Cpudan: they don't appear in hardware drivers, although I'm almost positive they did prior to new kernel
[20:07] <npope-laptop> ubuntu++
[20:07] <Cpudan80> Free_Beer: hrm... this is a very common problem we are having today
[20:07] <Cpudan80> Free_Beer: sudo apt-get install nvidia
[20:07] <Cpudan80> Free_Beer: are you sure its an Nvidia card?
[20:07] <tknmb> hi how to install prozilla?
[20:07] <Cpudan80> Free_Beer: System --> Prefs --> Hardware Info
[20:07] <npope-laptop> Free_Beer: lspci | grep -i nvidia
[20:08] <Free_Beer> ah.. ok... been looking on forums, etc, but nothing came up except for a few things
[20:08] <Hagen> thx and cu
[20:08] <Cpudan80> tknmb: assuming its in the repos; sudo apt-get install prozilla;
[20:08] <npope-laptop> Free_Beer: copy and paste that to the pastebot here
[20:08] <Free_Beer> brb
[20:08] <starenka> hi, i'm a dotard, but cant find it in man pages. how to define ip mask 192.168.1.1-20 in /etc/exports?
[20:08] <Cpudan80> !paste > Free_Beer
[20:08] <iamme> hello
[20:08] <Flannel> smanen: I suppose it could be, yeah.  Really, those page namings are whimsical as far as the mfcs are concerned
[20:09] <Cpudan80> starenka: IP mask?
[20:09] <iamme> I am having a problem with the screen resolution in Hardy
[20:09] <unop> starenka, man exports ?
[20:09] <starenka> Cpudan80: yep
[20:09] <Cpudan80> starenka: You mean network mask? (255.255.255.0) ?
[20:09] <npope-laptop> iamme: what is your video card?
[20:09] <starenka> unop: cant find it... it says * works only for host names....
[20:09] <smanen> Cpudan80: port forwarding has to do with NAT setup right?
[20:09] <iamme> I cant figure out
[20:09] <npope-laptop> iamme: lspci
[20:09] <starenka> Cpudan80: no. i need 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.20 @ 255.255.255.0
[20:10] <tknmb> unable to find the package prozilla?
[20:10] <Schuenemann> unop, can you tell me what are the parameters of the kernel like? root=..., ro, etc?
[20:10] <Cpudan80> smanen: yes - so you need to forward from your router to your internal machine
[20:10] <Free_Beer> lspci comes back empty
[20:10] <Schuenemann> kernel line*
[20:10] <starenka> starenka: maybe this is not called mask than ::))
[20:10] <Cpudan80> starenka: you want 20 IPs for 1 card?
[20:10] <iamme> npope-laptop: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[20:10] <iamme> thats the raw output
[20:10] <starenka> Cpudan80: 1card?
[20:11] <Free_Beer> so, not I'm not absolutely (but pretty sure) it's an nvidia
[20:11] <Cpudan80> starenka: normally you only get 1 IP per network interface
[20:11] <Cpudan80> starenka: normally you dont get 20
[20:11] <unop> Schuenemann, I would follow an example menu.lst
[20:11] <iamme> npope-laptop: ive tried all the solutions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto as well
[20:11] <starenka> Cpudan80: well, ok i want to share folders for 20 ips on subnet 255.255.255.0  ...
[20:11] <guntbert> starenka: you give the number of valid bits, f.i 192.168.1.0/24 for 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.255
[20:12] <npope-laptop> iamme: let me take a quick look
[20:12] <unop> Cpudan80, he wants to restrict 20 IP addresess from accessing his NFS export
[20:12] <Thanatoast> How can I expand all folders in nautilus instead of just one at a time? Perhaps a script for it or a better place to ask?
[20:12] <npope-laptop> unop: iptables fyi
[20:12] <Cpudan80> unop: oh....
[20:12] <unop> npope-laptop, silliness
[20:12] <starenka> guntbert: oh.. so THIS is how it works :)))
[20:12] <Schuenemann> unop, I am... that's what I see in the other boot options and have no clue what they mean. Anyway, I'll just restart and try instead of bothering you. Thanks
[20:12] <starenka> guntbert: thanx
[20:13] <guntbert> starenka: np
[20:13] <tknmb> ihi i have a trouble with my printer although it is correcxtly installed  , a message say that it is disconnected?
[20:13] <barbarella> guntbert:till 192.168.1.254, 255 is used for broadcasting
[20:13] <npope-laptop> iamme: you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:13] <starenka> guntbert: can you tell me, how it works?
[20:13] <npope-laptop> iamme: can you post your xorg.conf to the pastebot
[20:13] <starenka> guntbert: 24 stands for ... ?
[20:14] <Cpudan80> starenka: the number of bits used to make up the network portion of the IP
[20:14] <cpierce> 24 bits in the subnet mask
[20:14] <M_Collins> it
[20:14] <cpierce> 255.255.255.0
[20:14] <Cpudan80> yeah
[20:14] <guntbert> starenka: 24 bit = 3 Bytes, so if you want 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.127 u use 192.168.1.0/25 (1 bit more)
[20:14] <Free_Beer> when I run the dpkg-reconfigure... it never prompts me about video.  Just a mention of framebuffers, then moves on to keyboard stuff
[20:15] <cpierce> guntbert: i wouldn't teach him that way because he is talking about limiting on nfs and he isn't going to subnet his addresses he's using /24
[20:15] <starenka> guntbert: ok but what has 24 bits to do with 128 ips?
[20:15] <unop> starenka, you'll need two entries.  one for 192.168.1.0/28 and another for 192.168.1.16/29
[20:15] <guntbert> barbarella: yes, but the calculation of the addresses is the same
[20:15] <iamme> npope-laptop: http://mibbit.com/pb/Ih3wIZ
[20:15] <Thanatoast> Can anyone see what I am typing?
[20:15] <unop> starenka, though the second one includes 192.168.1.21 and 192.168.1.22 too
[20:15] <npope-laptop> Thanatoast: yes
[20:16] <Thanatoast> lol.  That's disappointing.
[20:16] <npope-laptop> Thanatoast: haha
[20:16] <Thanatoast> No one has any experience with nautilus, I guess
[20:16] <starenka> nevermind guys.. will read something concerning this issue.. thanx for showing the way
[20:17] <npope-laptop> iamme: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didnt seem to do anything... try switching to init 3 (sudo init 3) then reissue sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:17] <cpierce> Thanatoast:  check in gconf-editor
[20:17] <Flannel> Thanatoast: You're question was sort of vague to begin with.  What on earth does that mean?
[20:17] <iamme> npope-laptop: ok
[20:17] <irv> where can i get help with live cd on an older dell laptp
[20:17] <npope-laptop> irv: whats the problem
[20:18] <irv> i can't seem to get the operating system to recognize my wireless
[20:18] <Thanatoast> Instead of clicking on the tiny triangle for each folder in nautilus to expand the folder, I want to be able to expand all of them at the same time
[20:18] <ozo> hola
[20:18] <oceadic> Hi there....got a small problem I need help with
[20:18] <smanen> Flannel: is it possible that my router does not support ssh?
[20:18] <npope-laptop> irv: thats not a problem... it is proprieary thats why it doesnt work, youll have to install the firmware for the wireless card
[20:18] <oceadic> I installed Hardy on a Toshiba Portege M200 tablet
[20:18] <guntbert> cpierce: I didn't give an exact answer, wanted to point a sensible way to do the calculations himself :)
[20:18] <npope-laptop> irv: lspci to see what your wireless is
[20:19] <dstrbdfrk> can i get some help my ex hd wont mount anymore
[20:19] <unop> starenka, something like this /share -alldirs -network 192.168.1.0 -mask 255.255.255.240   and  /share -alldirs -network 192.168.1.16 -mask 255.255.255.248
[20:19] <Flannel> smanen: If the router does do port forwarding, it'll work.  packets are packets.
[20:19] <npope-laptop> dstrbdfrk: is it in fstab?
[20:19] <smanen> Flannel: when i go to remote management i see : 1)FTP 2)Telnet 3) Web
[20:19] <oceadic> I got everthing working properly except sound. Every install guide I read, and I read a lot of them getting the damn tablet rotation working, says sound should work out of the box
[20:19] <tremby> the IrcGuidelines (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines) says the bot is called "ubotu" where at the moment at least he appears to be called "ubottu". it says not to edit the page without asking though, so this is just to let any mods or anything know
[20:19] <iamme> npope-laptop: doesnt change anything
[20:19] <Cpudan80> smanen: more likely scenario is that your ISP forbids SSH traffic
[20:19] <Flannel> smanen: No "port forwrding" sort of stuff?
[20:19] <irv> nope-laptop: I just want to experience linux without installing it. How do I install a firmware into "virtual memory". I'm really a newbie at this.
[20:19] <npope-laptop> grrr. whats your resolution 800x600?
[20:19] <dstrbdfrk> nopoe-laptop: whats fstab?
[20:20] <npope-laptop> iamme: grrr. whats your resolution 800x600?
[20:20] <Cpudan80> tremby: ubottu is the stand in
[20:20] <iamme> npope-laptop: it just asks about a kernel framebuffer and then goes to kb stuff and my res is 800x600
[20:20] <tremby> it's usually ubotu is it? ok
[20:20] <starenka> unop: ok. stil not getting the things... need to read smthng more about tcpip i guess :OO
[20:20] <oceadic> Any ideas?
[20:20] <smanen> Flannel: there is NAT (Network adressing translation)
[20:20] <bastid_raZor> smanen; how about virtual server?
[20:20] <npope-laptop> irv: idk if you can... it would be in system, administration, Hardware Drivers... gonna have to be connected to a wired connection to install it though
[20:20] <Cpudan80> tremby: lately ubottu has been standing in a lot -- not sure what's been happening with ubottu lately
[20:20] <smanen> Flannel: that is what i have used up to now to open ports
[20:21] <Flannel> smanen: Do you have (along the left side) Wizard Setup, Advanced Setup, Maintenence, Log out?
[20:21] <dstrbdfrk> npope-laptop; it says the log file indicates unclean shutdown
[20:21] <npope-laptop> iamme: did this happen after the recent kernel upgrade?
[20:21] <npope-laptop> dstrbdfrk: run a check on it
[20:21] <ekow> Does anyone know why I can't install XP?  It says "Unknown Disk" on setup but my hard drive is formatted ntfs, also i can install vista no problem, just not xp...
[20:21] <dstrbdfrk> how do i do that ?
[20:21] <iamme> npope-laptop: i dont think so, i just freshly installed the system about 2 hrs ago and havent put any upgrades on it
[20:21] <irv> npope-laptop: what's "idk"
[20:21] <npope-laptop> dstrbdfrk: e2fsck
[20:21] <unop> starenka, read up on subnetting and address summarization ..   192.168.1.0/28  includes address from 192.168.1.0 upto 192.168.1.15 .. the second one includes address from .16 upto .22
[20:21] <npope-laptop> irv: i dont know
[20:22] <atlef> ekow: sata drive
[20:22] <bastid_raZor> !windows | ekow
[20:22] <npope-laptop> iamme: what are the specs of the comp...
[20:22] <starenka> unop: thanx. a new thing every day. life is beautiful :))
[20:22] <smanen> Flannel: yes
[20:23] <irv> npope-laptop: I'll reboot and take a look to see if it's there. Thanks
[20:23] <Flannel> smanen: go into advanced, then NAT, is the title of that page something like "Edit SUA/NAT Server Set"?
[20:23] <npope-laptop> BRB
[20:23] <smanen> Flannel: yes
[20:23] <iamme> npope-laptop: stock hp pavilion 540n w/ p4 processor @ 1.6GHz, 256 megs of ram, and i believe 32 megs of video memory
[20:24] <Aturner44> Does anyone know how I can use a .dem file?
[20:24] <Flannel> smanen: right, that's where you do port forwarding.  22, 22, ipaddress
[20:24] <smanen> Flannel: 1) None 2) SUA only 3) Full feature
[20:24] <iamme> npope-laptop: its actually not mine, just a friends who asked me to put linux on
[20:24] <oceadic> Hmm. Figured it out. Damn volume control had everything muted
[20:24] <Flannel> smanen: SUA only
[20:24] <Flannel> smanen: and then Edit Details
[20:24] <Leefmc> Question: I added a Launchpad User's "PPA" repository for a patched build of UFRaw to fix a bug, and that works great, but he also has a bunch of other patches/updates that ubuntu is trying to get me to install. How do i disable this without ruining his patched UFRaw?
[20:25] <smanen> Flannel: that is what i have done
[20:25] <remczy> Hi people... Can anybody tell me how to make mi Toshiba A205-S5000 Wifi work? I've followed all the instructions about madwifi, ndiswrapper and nowthing happened... Only with ndiswrapper but when I restart it brokes down again
[20:25] <Flannel> Leefmc: just download the one deb file and install it manually
[20:25] <iamme> npope-laptop: brb, gonna see if increasing the vid memory in bios helps. it has shared vid memory
[20:25] <starenka> unop: well, it works, but the directory is empty... i got the dirs on source machine binded (because of proftpd)- is that a problem?
[20:25] <Leefmc> Flannel: You can download deb files from the launchpad ppa's? How? (Im new to launchpad aswell, all a bit foreign to me :)
[20:25] <Aturner44> Flannel can you help me with this ndiswrapper package?
[20:25] <Flannel> smanen: Alright, do you have any other services on this computer?  say... http?  so we can just check to see if the forwarding is working?
[20:26] <dstrbdfrk> how do i run a check on my ex hd?
[20:26] <smanen> Flannel: yes
[20:26] <m_newton> Quick Question, are wire less cards interchangable
[20:26] <smanen> Flannel: how can i check?
[20:26] <Aturner44> How do I install something using a deb file? :S
[20:26] <Bhavesh> Aturner44 dpkg -i filename.deb
[20:26] <Aturner44> just that in terminal?
[20:26] <Bhavesh> Aturner44 yes
[20:27] <Flannel> smanen: Port forward port 80, and then see if your web server works with your external IP
[20:27] <Aturner44> okay, well ill go try that :D and if it doesnt work ill most likely be back lol.
[20:27] <kblin> hi
[20:27] <Aturner44> thankyou very much.
[20:27] <Flannel> Aturner44: to add it to your repos: dev [url] blah, go to that URL
[20:27] <Thanatoast> cpierce: I don't see how gconf-editor is going to tell me what button to press to expand sub-folders?
[20:27] <Radux_> Hi, i am looking for a good password manager that runs on linux, preferably can also be boot thru a thumbdrive, can anyone help me out?
[20:27] <kblin> whoops, typo in the channel name
[20:27] <dstrbdfrk> how do i use e2sck to fix my external harddrive
[20:27] <npope-laptop> dstrbdfrk: man e2fsck
[20:28] <npope-laptop> dstrbdfrk: assuming in ext*
[20:28] <smanen> Flannel: ok
[20:28] <starenka> Radux_: keepass
[20:28] <remczy> ﻿Hi people... Can anybody tell me how to make mi Toshiba A205-S5000 Wifi work? I've followed all the instructions about madwifi, ndiswrapper and nowthing happened... Only with ndiswrapper but when I restart it brokes down again
[20:28] <smanen> Flannel: i have forwarded port 80
[20:28] <starenka> Radux_: also available on win...
[20:28] <dstrbdfrk> npope-laptop ;  im super new man lol i dont understand   i typed e2fsck in terminal and it didnt seem to do anythng
[20:29] <Flannel> Leefmc: to add it to your repos, you have: "deb [url] blah" in your sources.list, go to that [URL]
[20:29] <Leefmc> Flannel: K
[20:29] <starenka> !keepass | Radux_
[20:29] <smanen> Flannel: when i write the external ip (the one i get from ipchicken.com) i go back to the router config page
[20:29] <starenka> !keepassx | Radux_
[20:29] <Flannel> Leefmc: then once there, go to pool, and then theyre listed by first letter
[20:29] <Radux_> starenka, i thought keepass was windows only?
[20:29] <Leefmc> Flannel: The only thing is, wont installing the deb cause the same core problem as if i just removed the repo? The core problem being, ubuntu will continually try to downgrade UFRaw?
[20:30] <starenka> Radux_: nope...
[20:30] <Flannel> smanen: Mmmmm, yeah, That makes sense.
[20:30] <Flannel> Leefmc: no, it won't try and downgrade
[20:30] <Radux_> starenka,  linux.com article from 2005 lol. So at one point it was I guess.
[20:30] <Flannel> smanen: Are you running ssl on that webserver?
[20:30] <Leefmc> Flannel: So can i just remove the repo, instead of reinstalling the deb?
[20:30] <cpierce> Thanatoast: the first time you asked the question it was so broad I thought it might be an option you were looking for
[20:30] <starenka> Radux_: i dont know if it is in repos ( i think it is keepassx), if not get it from their site...
[20:30] <Flannel> Leefmc: Yeah
[20:30] <amal029> whereis e2fsck | awk '{print $2}' | xargs man
[20:30] <Radux_> starenka, yea i saw it on google :)
[20:31] <Thanatoast> I am not sure how to make my question more specific
[20:31] <starenka> Radux_: dunno, i use it. dunne where i got it
[20:31] <smanen> Flannel: i don't know what ssl is
[20:31] <smanen> Flannel: let me google it
[20:31] <Flannel> smanen: Alright. Don't worry about it then.
[20:31] <Leefmc> Flannel: Gotcha, thanks :). I swore ubuntu did that though, because i seem to recall it doing that to some custom builds i had, if i remember right i had to put holds on them and only use aptitude, or ubuntu would downgrade my build.. am i not correct?
[20:31] <newbe1> what's with the new kernel updates?     what is a kernel?
[20:31] <remczy> Can anybody please help me to make my Atheros Wireless card work?
[20:31] <Leefmc> Flannel: Or are the two different issues (custom build, vs "newer" deb)
[20:31] <Flannel> Leefmc: No, Ubuntu won't downgrade package versions unless you tell it to.
[20:31] <Leefmc> Flannel: Huh, k :)
[20:32] <Flannel> Leefmc: If the version in the repos is *higher* than the manually installed version, it will try and upgrade.
[20:32] <Radux_> starenka,  Ah i see, keepass is windows only, keepassx is linux :D
[20:32] <Free_Beer> remczy: have your tried wicd?  I found it helpful
[20:32] <onetb> just installed Ubuntu 8.04 on ASUS eee 901.  has two SSD's, one 4gb (OS) and other 16gb.  The 16gb was /home under Xandros and I want it to be /home now for Ubuntu.  Can I change this without reinsttalling?
[20:32] <starenka> Radux_: oh, but it looks the same... :)))
[20:32] <remczy> I've tried all... but It only works at the moment... when I restart it goes down again...
[20:33] <smanen> Flannel: so what should be next step?
[20:33] <Flannel> smanen: We're going to assume your router port forwards correctly, and that the issue is your ISP blocking connections on port 22.  We'll change your SSH server's port number (and the forwarded port number) and see if it works.  This will also give you a lot less spam on your ssh server.
[20:34] <smanen> Flannel: ok
[20:34] <onetb> ﻿ just installed Ubuntu 8.04 on ASUS eee 901.  has two SSD's, one 4gb (OS) and other 16gb.  The 16gb was /home under Xandros and I want it to be /home now for Ubuntu.  Can I change this without reinsttalling?
[20:34] <newbe1> what's with the new kernel updates?     what is a kernel?
[20:34] <Radux_> starenka, yea, its just a windows port. also for the record it is in the repos, but its an older version
[20:34] <amal029> kernel is something which lets use your hardware
[20:34] <Flannel> smanen: so, while we're here (at the router page), we might as well do that.  So, pick another port number (something higher) that isn't used for anything else that you know of.
[20:34] <smanen> Flannel: so i have to change ssh server port
[20:35] <Flannel> smanen: Someone earlier had suggested 2222
[20:35] <markowen> hey
[20:35] <newbe1> ok
[20:35] <starenka> Radux_: hehe, yep just dled the .deb and gdebi says, i have older ver in repos... :))
[20:35] <iamme> onetb: im not an expert, but you should be able to at least make that /home without formatting
[20:35] <markowen> ok
[20:35] <RIPPED> ola
[20:35] <markowen> ok
[20:35] <krzysiek> hi
[20:35] <RIPPED> hello
[20:35] <markowen> ok
[20:35] <krzysiek> anyone runs MuOnline on ubuntu?
[20:35] <Thanatoast> OK.  I have a folder with 2,665 sub-folders.  I want to expand all of those 2,665 sub-folders at the same time in nautilus. Rather than clicking on the 2,665 triangles.  Is that possible and if so, how?
[20:35] <markowen> f
[20:35] <onetb> iamme: I thought so, but I can't find guides on it
[20:35] <Flannel> smanen: It doesn't really matter, as long as you can rememberit, and its not stepping on the toes of somethign else you're running.  The config is the very top of /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:35] <Radux_> starenka, does it go under the apps menu somewhere, or do you have to boot it by cli?
[20:36] <RIPPED> i installed ubuntu desktop on my lap top in dual mode , but i cant connet to my modem wireless .. trough wirelless , only by cable why ?
[20:36] <smanen> Flannel: ok
[20:36] <Uwe> hi all
[20:36] <onetb> so does anyone know how to change where /home is located?
[20:36] <iamme> onetb: by doing a manual install, you can just change the /home partiton's mount point
[20:36] <smanen> Flannel: let me vim it
[20:36] <Flannel> smanen: remember that once you change that config file, you'll need to restart your sshd, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[20:36] <iamme> onetb: a manual partition in the installer
[20:36] <sebrock> how do I disable read/write caching? Its giving me errors when using partimage
[20:36] <starenka> Radux_: i think keepass works...
[20:36] <onetb> yeah, but I don't wanna reinstall
[20:37] <starenka> Radux_: which says: /usr/bin/keepass
[20:37] <bobernet> sebrock: man hdparm
[20:37] <amal029> onetb: in you /etc/fstab do /dev/your-16gb partition /home ext3-or-whatever-partition-that-is defaults 0 0
[20:37] <Radux_> starenka, yes i just did it thru alt+f2 then keepassx
[20:37] <atlef> onetb: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[20:37] <smanen> Flannel: ok
[20:38] <smanen> Flannel: done editing and restarting
[20:38] <onetb> amal029: i think I follow.  let me check it out
[20:38] <starenka> Radux_: dunno maybe i made alias or symlink :))
[20:38]  * Arkenklo sez Oh noes!
[20:38] <Radux_> starenka, is there a guide that describes how to use it well?
[20:38] <starenka> Radux_: it's a good while ago :)))
[20:38] <smanen> Flannel: now i have to port forward right?
[20:38] <starenka> Radux_: how to use what? keepass? it pretty easy app. you will figure it out in a sec..
[20:38] <zethero1> Synaptic is showing me an old version of a package which does not even exist in that repo ... and becasue of this I cannot install the app .... please help
[20:38] <onetb> atlef:  AWESOME
[20:39] <sebrock> bobernet, its a sata drive so that wont work. however you dont know the exact way?
[20:39] <Radux_> starenka, well for example, i want to create a new database, but it also has a key file thing, whats that about?
[20:39] <Flannel> smanen: yeah, you need to update the port forward
[20:39] <Aturner44> okay...can anyone help me with "ndiswrapper utils"? I have installed ndiswrapper and when i try to use it i get a message saying "no ndiswrapper utils found" and I dont know what to do now lol
[20:39] <starenka> Radux_: never used such, sorry... i just use it to store & generate passes
[20:40] <zethero1> please help
[20:40] <iamme> ok, can anybody else help me fix my screen resolution?
[20:40] <smanen> Flannel: hmmm
[20:40] <smanen> Flannel: i did it all
[20:40] <Radux_> starenka, and thats why I asked for a guide or something,lol. I get the idea of you generate a database then put in whatever you like but wasnt sure about the key file thing
[20:40] <smanen> Flannel: but when i try to ssh the local ip i can only do it from 22 port
[20:40] <bobernet> sebrock: use sdparm, then.  it's very's simpl -W is write, i don't remember the switch for read
[20:40] <bobernet> sebrock: man sdparm will tell you.
[20:40] <Flannel> smanen: Did you remember to save your config changes before restarting?
[20:41] <Flannel> smanen: or did you just edit it in RAM? :)
[20:41] <Radux_> starenka,  found what i needed
[20:41] <starenka> Radux_: ok..
[20:41] <smanen> Flannel: i saved it xD
[20:41] <Flannel> smanen: and you restarted ssh?  (and it worked fine?)
[20:41] <smanen> Flannel: should the # before every line in the file bother me?
[20:42] <Flannel> smanen: Every line?
[20:42] <smanen> Flannel: well not every line
[20:42] <Flannel> smanen: Is there a # in front of the Port line?
[20:42] <smanen> Flannel: #   Port 2222
[20:42] <Flannel> smanen: ... uncomment that
[20:43] <Flannel> smanen: That's odd that that's there.  But just uncomment it and we'll be fine
[20:43] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Can someone recommend a SMS Gateway/server for Linux which is free?
[20:43] <smanen> Flannel: can i pastebin the file so that you can read it?
[20:43] <smanen> Flannel: almost everything there is commented
[20:43] <Flannel> smanen: If you want, sure.  But that comment was the problem.  I don't need to see much else.
[20:44] <smanen> Flannel: ok
[20:44] <btb125> what can i use for running windows programs on an amd pc?
[20:44] <Flannel> smanen: the two lines under it (ListenAddress and ListenAddress) are both commented out, right?
[20:44] <atlef> btb125: ?
[20:44] <alexi5> ﻿do you guys know of any media servers for linux ?
[20:44] <bobernet> sebrock: sdparm -W0 /dev/sda  disables write cacheing.  there's no command to disable read cacheing that i could see.
[20:45] <smanen> Flannel: i don't have those lines (i better pastebin it)
[20:45] <sebrock> bobernet ok thanks
[20:45] <iamme> i need help with a resolution problem in Hardy
[20:45] <bobernet> iamme: what's the problem?
[20:45] <Radux_> Is there a simple way to encrypt a file, specifically so it can only be opened when a password is given, I need this to work on both ubuntu and winxp
[20:46] <iamme> bobernet: it says the max resolution is 960x600, but it is at least 1024x768
[20:46] <karname> how i can to live my gnome in ubuntu 8.04 , in nautilus when i coping a file , size of the file doesn't change , how can i live it?
[20:46] <iamme> bobernet: ive tried all the stuff at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto, and none of it worked
[20:46] <bobernet> iamme: what video driver are you using?
[20:46] <amal029> What does living a file mean?
[20:47] <PriceChild> Radux_: http://advosys.ca/viewpoints/2006/07/pgp-symmetric-encryption/
[20:47] <smanen> Flannel: you can see the file at pastebin.com
[20:47] <Flannel> smanen: you need to give the URL
[20:47] <iamme> bobernet: the standard one for this card from lspci 'VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter '
[20:48] <jharder> hey everyone
[20:48] <smanen> Flannel: i am not sure if this is it: http://pastebin.com/m6c317617
[20:49] <Ikelo1> hello?
[20:49] <Radux_> PriceChild, that seems awfully complicated
[20:49] <bobernet> iamme: what video driver are you using in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for your video card?
[20:49] <jharder> i'm deploying an ubuntu web server and i'm having problems pinging the outside world
[20:49] <Flannel> smanen: ah.  Whats the name of the file you're editing?
[20:50] <PriceChild> Radux_: to encrypt... gpg --symmetric filename
[20:50] <PriceChild> Radux_: to decrypt... gpg -d filename
[20:50] <Aturner44> Can anyone tell me why when i start up ubuntu it starts up in "busybox built in shell"?
[20:50] <iamme> bobernet: it doesnt say anything about drivers in the 'monitor' or 'screen' sections
[20:50] <iamme> like no driver line
[20:50] <Aturner44> i just got the ndiswrapper working too :@
[20:50] <smanen> Flannel: /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[20:51] <Radux_> PriceChild, but does it work with winxp?
[20:51] <Flannel> smanen: right.  we want /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:51] <iamme> bobernet: this is my xorg.conf
[20:51] <bobernet> iamme: what video card is in you machine?
[20:51] <iamme> http://mibbit.com/pb/qGzZfz
[20:51] <W9ZEB> is there an easy way to resolve "No audio in Flash" ?
[20:51] <bobertdos> Ikelo1: How may we help you?
[20:51] <W9ZEB> It was working, and now, it's not.
[20:51] <PriceChild> Radux_: ahh for winxp... i think there is a gpg for that... but no idea
[20:51] <smanen> Flannel: ok sorry
[20:51] <Aturner44> PriceChild, can you help me?
[20:51] <PriceChild> Radux_: I know that 'truecrypt' is cross-platform, and is graphical
[20:52] <Ikelo1> Oh I'm sorry bobertdos
[20:52] <Flannel> smanen: No worries.  That's the config for ssh clients, not sshd, the server (daemon).
[20:52] <W9ZEB> audio in general works, just not audio in flash videos etc.
[20:52] <iamme> bobernet: from lspci it appears to be a 'VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter '
[20:52] <Ikelo1> was looking at something else for a minute
[20:52] <dasdajs> how do I disable automatic cpufreq, so that it runs at the maximum all the time?
[20:52] <PriceChild> Aturner44: what message is it telling you?
[20:52] <smanen> Flannel: i see
[20:52] <Radux_> PriceChild, i was hoping there was a simple solution, thanks for the help though, i'll look around.
[20:52] <StepNjump> ﻿Hi guys, I don't know what is going on. Everytime I reboot, I don't have access to the web. It looks like I need to start firestarter and then turn off the firewall. When I start it again, everything works as normal... Pretty weird
[20:53] <smanen> Flannel: ssh smanen.homelinux.com -p 2222
[20:53] <smanen> Flannel: ssh smanen.homelinux.com -p 2222
[20:53] <shappie> I got a really strange problem with ubuntu hardy and the fglrx driver
[20:53] <shappie> Everywhere it says its enabled
[20:53] <smanen> Flannel: connection refused
[20:53] <shappie> but when i type in the terminal: fglrxinfo
[20:53] <shappie> it says mesa drivers...
[20:53] <shappie> how i change that?
[20:53] <bobernet> iamme: in the Device section, try adding   Driver  "sis"
[20:53] <Ikelo1> anyways from what I understand, the audio drivers in Linux can only handle one process at a time accessing the sound card in a system, and I recently opened up totem to listen to some sound files
[20:53] <Aturner44> "Assuming driver cache: write through"
[20:54] <iamme> bobernet: ok, brb
[20:54] <BlueKoala> Can anyone tell me how I can tell which kernel version I am using?
[20:54] <Ikelo1>  then I opened firefox  and went to youtube
[20:54] <Aturner44> its just starting up in like terminal kind of thing :S
[20:54] <karname> how i can to live my gnome in ubuntu 8.04 , in nautilus when i coping a file , size of the file doesn't change , how can i live it?
[20:54] <atlef> BlueKoala: uname -r
[20:54] <BlueKoala> atlef: Thanks!
[20:54] <ivantis_> does anyone here hate me?
[20:54] <Ikelo1> realizing that this was a mistake, I went and killed totem and that instence of firefox and restarted the browser
[20:54] <ivantis_> !ping
[20:54] <Radux_> ivantis_,  obviously me. Obviously.
[20:54] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Can someone recommend a SMS Gateway/server for Linux which is free?
[20:55] <Nutzebahn> which has a GUI
[20:55] <Ikelo1> however, it still wont seem to connect to the sound card, and im not sure what to do....
[20:55] <Radux_> Ikelol, what made you think sound drivers can only handle one audio source at a time?
[20:55] <Ikelo1> I went to view processes and pulse audio is still sleeping
[20:55] <bobertdos> Ikelo1: Which one do you want to have control? Totem or Firefox?
[20:55] <Flannel> smanen: Does it work with your internal IP?
[20:55] <bobernet> ivantis_: what do you need?
[20:56] <smanen> Flannel: yes
[20:56] <Aturner44> can anyone tell me why my computer is starting up in "Busy box built in shell" and saying "Assuming driver cache: write through" :@
[20:56] <Flannel> smanen: Alright, instead of the homelinux thing, try your actual IP
[20:56] <bbq^> Ikelo1, there should be no problem with what you did ? I have done that many times before
[20:56] <Ikelo1> firefox at this moment  and in answer to the other question some one informed me that is just the way it workd, and I took their word on it...  >.>
[20:56] <ivantis_> bobernet: nothing, some people in #armagetron are just rly annoyed with me
[20:56] <smanen> Flannel: you mean the router external ip right?
[20:56] <billybigrigger_> hey all
[20:56] <Flannel> smanen: yeah, go to whatismyip.com or whatever
[20:57] <bobertdos> Ikelo1: More specifically, you want flash to have it, right?
[20:57] <jrib> Radux_: it's easy enough to create a menu item in nautilus that will run gpg --symmetric FILE.  Nautilus will already decrypt such a file automatically
[20:57] <Ikelo1> yes I'm sorry your are correct
[20:57] <smanen> Flannel: connection refused
[20:57] <Aturner44> can anyone tell me why my computer is starting up in "Busy box built in shell" and saying "Assuming driver cache: write through" and how to get it back to normal? :@
[20:57] <Ikelo1> should I kill pulseaudio and re-start the browser?
[20:57] <Thanatoast> I will just assume that it is not possible and move on, I suppose
[20:57] <bobertdos> Ikelo1: If you installed Flash 9 from the repos, you will also want to install libflashsupport.
[20:57] <billybigrigger_> i have a question, i used nvidia-settings to setup dual view i have my laptop connected to my tv via hdmi and 1080, on my tv i can see my background and if i mouse over i can see my mouse on my tv, but i try and drag my totem window over to the tv and nothing, how do i start totem on my TV? display #2
[20:57] <billybigrigger_> ???
[20:58] <guntbert_> !repeat | Aturner44
[20:58] <bobernet> Aturner44: do you have a CD in the drive?  did you boot to recovery mode?
[20:58] <Aturner44> okay sorry
[20:58] <Flannel> smanen: And you're sure your forwarding to the right internal IP and stuff? that is, your server?
[20:58] <Ikelo1> Alright thank you
[20:58] <Aturner44> umm, there is a game in the cd driver yes :S
[20:59] <smanen> Flannel: yes
[20:59] <smanen> Flannel: 2222 2222 192.168.0.42
[20:59] <bobernet> Aturner44: are you sure you're booting from the bootloader/root partition on your hdd and not the CD?
[20:59] <iamme> bobernet: i added that line in the 'Monitor' section, and upon restarting X, it gave me an 'Ubuntu Low Resolution Warning' message, and still didnt work, even when i selected 1024x768 as the resolution
[20:59] <Flannel> smanen: Don't know what to tell you.  It's a problem with the port forwarding of your router
[20:59] <smanen> Flannel: ok
[20:59] <dasdajs> how I change the default governor?
[20:59] <bobernet> iamme: define "didn't work"
[20:59] <smanen> Flannel: thanks for the help
[21:00] <Flannel> smanen: Try doing port 2221 to 2223 instead of 2222 to 2222
[21:00] <Aturner44> ill take the disk out and reboot but i think so yes.
[21:00] <iamme> bobernet: it is still at 800x600, what it was before i tried that
[21:00] <Radux_> jrib, sure, but the problem is XP
[21:00] <Flannel> smanen: Oh, did you hit "save" on thebottom of that screen after editing?
[21:00] <jrib> Radux_: I agree with you there.  The problem is XP
[21:01] <smanen> Flannel: doesnt work
[21:01] <smanen> Flannel: yes i saved
[21:01] <Ikelo1> bobertdos  Thank you for your help that seems to have fixed the problem
[21:01] <Radux_> jrib, i've just decided to go with a weak password, kept on its own 128mb usb key :)
[21:02] <bobernet> iamme: k.  to the xorg.conf, in the Screen section, add SubSection "Display <CR> Modes   "1024x768" <CR> EndSubSection    where each <CR> means hit the Enter key
[21:02] <smanen> Flannel: if i do sudo tcpdump port 2222 and i ssh smanen.homelinux.com -p 2222 i get some feedback
[21:02] <Radux_> jrib, i have a 63char entirely random pass i am using on my pass manager, so to remember that would be tough, doing it this way should work easily enough.
[21:02] <jrib> Radux_: write a poem or something :)
[21:02] <smanen> Flannel: so i'd say the router is properly forwarding
[21:02] <Radux_> jrib, lmfao
[21:03] <Flannel> Radux_: sentences are the best passwords
[21:03] <bobernet> iamme: can you paste the lspci output for your vid card again, as well
[21:03] <Radux_> jrib, roses are red, violets are blue, dont you dare try and get into this file you bastard.
[21:03] <Radux_> Flannel, thats not true
[21:04] <Radux_> Flannel, what is better? ' I like long walks on the beach ' or '14@bnsdfHJKJl*=&#gfjhn' lol. more random then that though.
[21:04] <deebus> anyone having issues with nvidia drivers?
[21:04] <_blitz> deebus, not I, nvidia-glx is better than ever
[21:04] <smanen> Flannel: i must go have dinner thanks for the help
[21:04] <deebus> I go into "hardware drivers", enable the nvidia driver, but in the "nvidia settings" tool, it says it appears I'm not using the nvidia driver.  what gives?
[21:04] <smanen> Flannel: see you later
[21:05] <_blitz> deebus, did you reboot X after enabling it?
[21:05] <iamme> bobernet: it appears that the low res warning config already added that
[21:05] <Flannel> Radux_: Well, "I like long walks on the beach" doesn't include any puncutation or numbers, but if you changed it to include those... randomness doesn't really matter.
[21:05] <deebus> blitz: yes, I did
[21:05] <iamme> bobernet: ill reboot just to be sure
[21:05] <deebus> restarted X, even restarted my box altogether
[21:05] <Radux_> Flannel, well it does. Sorta. The only benefit of a sentence is being able to remember it.
[21:05] <bobernet> iamme: that's good.  did it also add BusID to the Device section for your card?
[21:06] <_blitz> deebus, check out your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what youre usin
[21:06] <Flannel> Radux_: Can you remember 14@bnsdfHJKJl*=&#gfjhn?
[21:06] <Radux_> Flannel, thats what I said above. Thus the best way I see it is to have a password manager with all those funky passwords in it
[21:06] <Flannel> Radux_: Remembering passwords is a key part of having a password.
[21:06] <deebus> blitz: driver is "nvidia"
[21:07] <Radux_> Flannel, for sure, thats why I like the idea of having a usb key or something similar with that odd key on it. So unless they have the physical drive, they cant get the pass.
[21:07] <Radux_> Flannel, check this site out ; https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm
[21:07] <duiu> If I use VNC via the remote desktop preference page, and then realvnc on a windows machine to control my ubuntu desktop, do I have to be logged in already on Ubuntu?
[21:07] <_blitz> deebus, hmm ..  well, youre using the nvidia driver then if thats any consolation
[21:07] <sully_6119> hi all. got a problem with nvidia after update today on my thinkpad.
[21:08] <sully_6119> didn't pay much attention to what was updating, since i've never had problems in the last 2 years...
[21:08] <_blitz> maybe this nvidia thing just started? :P
[21:08] <sully_6119> i tried going back to prev kernel, but i still have this error
[21:08] <{_SmOkE_}> kkk
[21:08] <sully_6119> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[21:08] <sully_6119> but lsmod:
[21:08] <sully_6119> nvidia               4718832  0
[21:09] <guntbert_> !enter|sully
[21:09] <Blacktidez> btw if anyone else asks about ubuntu and blinking on games they are running ati cards and need to turn off visual effects while playing games.
[21:09] <danbhfive> Radux_: how about a device that has passwords generated via satellite, and updated every 2 minutes
[21:09] <Thanatoast> Hmm, if anyone cares.  It looks like Shift (or maybe ctrl) and the numberpad + key  is now expanding all the sub-folders in nautilus, gonna take a little while to do it
[21:09] <Radux_> danbfive, already have a few of those
[21:09] <Unseen> sully_6119, re-install your nvida driver
[21:10] <Unseen> so it will recompile to your current kernel
[21:10] <sully_6119> Unseen: tried that too. with this:
[21:10] <iamme> bobernet: it works!!!!!
[21:10] <Radux_> danbhfive, , already have a few of those
[21:10] <iamme> bobernet: i guess adding the driver line messed it up, loading that utility, which made it work :P
[21:11] <perillux> the Ubuntu cd image is 690MB but I only have 650MB cd's..  is there anyway I could still do this, via some kind of compression?  I'm only 40mb away....
[21:11] <sully_6119> Unseen: hrm, command isn't in history. did it through recovery console. but it was something like: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new...
[21:11] <sully_6119> i have X, but of course it runs at 800x600 :(
[21:11] <Unseen> how about downloading the driver from nvida and run it
[21:12] <Flannel> perillux: Unfortunately not.  You could, however, use the minimal CD, which is only 8mb.
[21:12] <Arkenklo> hello?
[21:12] <iamme> bobernet: well thanks
[21:12] <Radux_> sully_6119, you could try using envy
[21:12] <LordFDisk> Just wondering ... would I get everything that I get in Ubuntu 8.04 if I installed ubuntustudio ?
[21:12] <danand> sully_6119 - dpkg -l | grep nvidia to see what you have installed
[21:12] <sully_6119> Radux_: envy?
[21:12] <duiu> sully_6119: Try sudo apt-get autoremove --purge nvidia-settings nvidia-glx-new nvidia-new-kernel-source and then reinstall
[21:12] <perillux> Flannel: what features would I lose?
[21:13] <Flannel> perillux: You'd only lose the fact that you'd be forced to connect to the internet during the install (instead of afterwards) to download packages.
[21:13] <danbhfive> Radux_: mk.  I just figure that they are better than just storing your passes on a flash drive.  You thought it would make it so that only the holder of the drive could use it, but thats not true.  Its still anyone who knows the pass, flash in hand or not
[21:13] <Radux_> sully_6119, it searches for the best driver to use, and does a damn good job of installing it properly. In my case, it was the only way to get my drivers to install properly
[21:13] <Flannel> perillux: The installed system will be identical (also, it won't be a liveCD)
[21:13] <JackTheLad> Hi - I Live in the UK, Can anyone suggest an ubuntu compatible webcam?
[21:13] <perillux> Flannel: is something like that available for Intrepid Ibex yet?
[21:13] <Pelo> afternoon folks,  I made a launcher for my desktop but this is for a terminal ap,  how do I make it start the ap in a terminal ?
[21:13] <Flannel> LordFDisk: You can easily convert between the two.  I'm not sure what the studio flavor includes that the normal one wouldn't, but if there is anythign you can make sure you aren'
[21:13] <Radux_> danbhfive, sure, lol. I've decided its easier just to remember a sentance and change it once a week or something. like 'clowns have fangs during the night'  then ' sunset comes just after sunrise' could be the week after'
[21:14] <Flannel> LordFDisk: make sure you aren't missing them afterwards.  (either way too, so if you have Ubuntu and want to add Studio, thats easy as well)
[21:14] <Gekone> Hi all.
[21:14] <_blitz> Pelo, move the pulldown box when you make it
[21:14] <duiu> Does VNC support remote login?
[21:14] <Rumel> hello
[21:15] <bobernet> duiu: no
[21:15] <Pelo> thanks  _blitz I should have known this
[21:15] <perillux> Flannel: where can I find that 8mb download?
[21:15] <LordFDisk> Flannel,  ya I running Ubuntu 64-bit now.
[21:15] <Syco54645> hello, i am trying to cut a custom kernel and have my /var and /tmp directory going to tmpfs but when booting it complains that tmpfs cannot be found and then klogd errors.  what do i need to do to fix this issue?
[21:15] <Flannel> perillux: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/20080522ubuntu12/images/netboot/mini.iso  for intrepid.  Also, #ubuntu+1 is the place for intrepid support
[21:15] <bobertdos> !hello | Arkenklo
[21:15] <Flannel> !minimal | perillux
[21:15] <Flannel> perillux: that page has links to the other versions
[21:16] <Osse> Isn't there a good queue manager for rar's for ubuntu?
[21:16] <duiu> bobernet: Do you know of a similar service that does?
[21:16] <jrib> Osse: "queue manager"?
[21:16] <Osse> The rar softwares are very slow =/
[21:16] <bobernet> Syco54645: enable the tmpfs filesystem driver in your custom kernel and rebuild
[21:16] <Osse> jrib?
[21:16] <jrib> Osse: what does that mean?
[21:16] <Syco54645> bobernet: under psuedo filesystems?  i did that and it does not work.
[21:16] <zcat[1]> for x in *.rar; do unrar $x ; done  ?
[21:16] <slango> my friend has set up an ubuntu server, and since setting it up, he's been unable to ping
[21:16] <Syco54645> bobernet: or is it located elsewhere and i am just an idiot
[21:16] <bobernet> duiu: login, and run xlock or something similar to lock the desktop while away.  then vnc will work
[21:16] <marcules> hi there ^^
[21:16] <Flannel> LordFDisk: Unfortunately Studio doesn't subscribe to the single-package metapackage at the moment, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UpgradingFromHardy
[21:16] <Osse> jrib - That allows me to queue several rar sequences.
[21:17] <Mr_Fixit> can someone actually help me fix my sound config?? w/o sending me to redundant websites?
[21:17] <Osse> I would like a GUI for this.
[21:17] <Flannel> LordFDisk: Theres only a handful of packages
[21:17] <Osse> I'm not very good with scripts and such.
[21:17] <shappie> Someknow how to fix the problem that i want to use fglrx driver (ATi restricted driver) but ubuntu all the time uses the MESA/VESA driver...
[21:17] <shappie> ?
[21:17] <bobernet> duiu:  X must be running for vnc to be of any use
[21:17] <perillux> Flannel: so when all is completed it should be exactly the same as if I had used the LiveCD correct?
[21:17] <bobernet> Syco54645: Did you build it in or as a module?  if the latter, the module must be loaded
[21:17] <LordFDisk> Flannel,  Kewl thanks I will read on it ...
[21:18] <Miyavix3> Hey, how do I uninstall ubuntu from a partition? I did a manual install. My windows partition is 400GB and my ubuntu is 100. When I go into Windows it says I only have a 400GB HDD. I'm just sayin that to inform you if I did something wrong. (Sorry that was long)
[21:18] <jrib> Osse: what's wrong with nautilus?
[21:18] <Flannel> perillux: yes, the installed system will be the same
[21:18] <zedfloyd> im looking to record music via multi track... is there free software outthere that can do multitrack recording??
[21:18] <Syco54645> bobernet: it is marked with a * so it should be built in
[21:18] <duiu> bobernet: I am running X
[21:18] <perillux> Flannel: thank you :)
[21:18] <bobertdos> Rumel: May we help you?
[21:18] <erUSUL> !info ardour | zedfloyd
[21:18] <duiu> bobernet: I would just like to login remotely as well
[21:18] <bobernet> duiu: not when your box is at a login prompt, you're not.  :)
[21:18] <erUSUL> !info jokosher | zedfloyd
[21:19] <Syco54645> bobernet: the exact option appears to be "virtual memor file system support (former shm fs)" then underneath is "tmpfs pozis access control lists"
[21:19] <bobernet> duiu: X only starts *after* gdm processes the login.  you might consider SSH and tunneling instead
[21:19] <zedfloyd> wow thanks ubottu
[21:19] <Syco54645> bobernet: so i am not sure if i am looking in the wrong place
[21:19] <zedfloyd> im new to ubuntu, how do i get it?
[21:19] <bobernet> Syco54645: i'm not either, offhand.  i'd have to google, and you can probably do that.  ;)
[21:19] <Miyavix3> Go to the main website, download a CD, and install it
[21:19] <Flannel> perillux: Actually, thats technically not true.  The minimal ISO will give you a fully updated system.  Which is the same as if you install the liveCD and then fully upgrade
[21:19] <erUSUL> !software | zedfloyd
[21:20] <Pelo> _blitz, you wouldn'T know what the option is to make the clie command in the launcher open the file that is drag/dropped on it ?
[21:20] <zedfloyd> thanks!
[21:20] <zedfloyd> do you use this ubottu?
[21:20] <erUSUL> zedfloyd: ubottu is a bot XD
[21:20] <zedfloyd> oh!
[21:20] <Miyavix3> zedfloyd: Ubuntu is the OS
[21:20] <erUSUL> !who | zedfloyd
[21:20] <Syco54645> bobernet: been doing that all day now.  still no luck.  others with the same laptop are having the same issue, but the generic kernel works, just boots so slowly.  when this laptop (the acer aspire one) had linpus on it it booted lightning fast
[21:20] <Miyavix3> Hence the room name
[21:21] <jrib> Osse: were you aware that nautilus allows you to do this?
[21:21] <zedfloyd> type ! and hit the tab button?
[21:21] <Osse> jrib - Uhm, how?
[21:21] <bobernet> Syco54645: it's a cumbersome way to go, but i'd start with the distro's kernel config and build one yourself using the same .config.  if that works, then start tweaking kernel params a few at a time, and rebuild.  so you can back up when it breaks.
[21:22] <Miyavix3> No seriously...
[21:22] <erUSUL> zedfloyd: no zed<tab> cpmletes your nickname on my irc client
[21:22] <jrib> Osse: install the "unrar" package first.  Then right click on a file (or several) and hit "extract here"
[21:22] <zedfloyd> erUSUL: got it! thanks
[21:22] <bobernet> Syco54645: the distro's kernel config will be /boot/config-kernel_version
[21:22] <erUSUL> zedfloyd: so is easy to mantain a converstion with you on the busy roo
[21:22] <apathetic> Hello, where can i fetch 8.10?
[21:22] <Osse> Oh
[21:22] <bobernet> Syco54645: config-2.6.22-generic (for example)
[21:22] <markowen> hey teest23
[21:22] <erUSUL> zedfloyd: the ubottu fatcoid you have to remember them XD
[21:22] <obf213> hello. i think this may be a question about grep and rm. I've got a folder of music whith a bunch of subfolders with artist names, then subfolders of albums. i want to remove all the .ini and .jpeg files
[21:23] <bobernet> Syco54645: copy that to .config in /usr/src/linux and make-kpkg
[21:23] <zedfloyd> erUSUL: i wondered how everyone did that so quickly...
[21:23] <zedfloyd> erUSUL: where do i find other irc chat rooms?
[21:23] <zedfloyd> like for recording digital music
[21:23] <Syco54645> bobernet: yes i know.  i did a compile with the old config, but that was not using /var on tmpfs so it is not working.  it seems noone can figure out what option we need
[21:24] <rafael> hello
[21:24] <Osse> jrib - It doesn't queue them.
[21:24] <zethero1> something is seriously wrong with Synaptic
[21:24] <bobernet> Syco54645: If it's specific to your laptop model, tmpfs is not the underlying issue, most likely
[21:24] <erUSUL> obf213: «find folder_of_mp3 -name '*.ini' -print0 | xargs rm » (the same for jpegs) *caution* use this with care
[21:24] <ravenra2> Is there some way to make the Apps, Places and System to go into one single menu?
[21:25] <erUSUL> obf213: try first with xargs echo instead of rm just to check it does the right thing
[21:25] <Syco54645> bobernet: well this laptop uses ssd so we have put /var on a tmpfs to speed things up.  i am not sure if others are doing this sort of thing or not.
[21:25] <obf213> ok
[21:25] <erUSUL> zedfloyd: on this net there are many chat rooms
[21:25] <bobertdos> zethero1: What makes you say that?
[21:25] <jrib> Osse: it extracts several simeltaneously, what's the difference really?
[21:25] <amal029> just use the -p switch with xargs, to make sure what you delete
[21:25] <jmicklos> hello all
[21:25] <zedfloyd> erUSUL: is there a website to search for chat room topics?
[21:25] <zethero1> ﻿bobertdos: its not updating the version in the repo .....
[21:26] <zedfloyd> and then link you there?
[21:26] <jmicklos> I have a concern with upgrading to 8.04 from 7.10
[21:26] <slango> my friend just set his Ubuntu server up with a local IP address and he's having some network trouble: he's unable to ping any URL.
[21:26] <obf213> cool it worked thanks erUSUL
[21:26] <Osse> jrib - It takes alot more resources and it's not what I'm looking for.
[21:26] <erUSUL> zedfloyd: dunno; google is your friend
[21:26] <bobertdos> zethero1: The version of what?
[21:26] <jmicklos> any issues with mdadm or software raid with upgrading?
[21:26] <jmicklos> ubntu
[21:26] <jmicklos> *ubuntu
[21:26] <slango> does anyone have any suggestions for steps that he might have missed
[21:26] <zedfloyd> erUSUL: gotcha
[21:26] <slango> he just installed from the latest install media
[21:26] <zethero1> ﻿bobertdos: I have the AWN repo added and the vesion is not the one in the AWN repos
[21:26] <jmicklos> I have 2 TB that I don't want to wipe out
[21:26] <jmicklos> with an upgrade
[21:26] <jrib> Osse: you'll probably have to script something then
[21:27] <andrewaclt> I don't have any sound when firefox is running, otherwise I do. Everything is set to use ALSA, thoughts on fixing it?
[21:27] <bobernet> Syco54645: is it an Eee PC?
[21:27] <obf213> erUSUL, hmm wnen i tried rm it would let me remove them
[21:27] <cornkid> Hello
[21:27] <outbriber> jmicklos: upgrading to what?
[21:27] <erUSUL> obf213: ?
[21:27] <Syco54645> bobernet: it is acer's answer to eee
[21:28] <bobertdos> andrewaclt: Install libflashsupport if you have flash 9 from the repos.
[21:28] <obf213> erUSUL, the problem was the folders with names like "Happy Days" it would split up the name
[21:28] <erUSUL> obf213: «find folder_of_mp3 -name '*.ini' -print0 | xargs -0 rm »
[21:28] <mdalby> \nick thirdgear
[21:28] <bolrog> i just installed hardy server, and after the first reboot grub gives me: "Error 15: File not found"  ...wth?
[21:28] <erUSUL> obf213: my fault xargs needs -0
[21:28] <abrahm> hello all, can someone tell me howto find the type of filesystem a drive is mounted as ?
[21:28] <Miyavix3> I did a manual install of Ubuntu on my PC, on a separate partition from windows. (100GB to ubuntu 400gb to windows) When I go into Windows it says I only have 400GB. Is that normal?
[21:28] <bobertdos> zethero1: I wouldn't call that a Synaptic problem. Whoever maintains that repo probably loaded a new version into the repo and forgot to update the info.
[21:29] <obf213> erUSUL, thanks. what can I google to figure ouot what just did? is there a name for what we just did?
[21:29] <bobernet> Syco54645: have you been through this: wiki.aspireone.net/index.php/How_to_install_GNU/Linux_Ubuntu_8.04.1_on_Acer_Aspire_One  ?
[21:29] <erUSUL> abrahm: cat /proc/mounts
[21:29] <jmicklos> Does anyone know of any issues with mdadm or software raid in general when upgrading from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04?
[21:29] <abrahm> thanks :)
[21:29] <zethero1> ﻿bobertdos: been chatting with the maintainers for over an hour ... its all good on their end
[21:29] <smanen> Flannel: hello again
[21:29] <Syco54645> bobernet: of course, it isnt stated in there.
[21:29] <andrewaclt> bobertdos And then switch everything to pulse audio rather than alsa?
[21:29] <jmicklos> upgrading
[21:29] <smanen> Flannel: i just got confirmation that port forwarding works properly
[21:30] <jmicklos> outbriber: upgrading
[21:30] <bobernet> Syco54645: It implies that tmpfs works fine with the stock kernel
[21:30] <bobertdos> andrewaclt: No, just install it and try everything the way it is.
[21:30] <erUSUL> obf213: find finds files we just searched for files whose names match *.ini then we passed the list of names to xargs which in turn passed the nems one by one to rm
[21:30] <erUSUL> obf213: man find
[21:30] <JuVV> hi. Is the Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) ethernet controller supported on Ubuntu 8.04?
[21:30] <bobernet> Syco54645: and you said you already built a kernel matching the stock .config exactly.  so you or they are wrong.  one or the other.
[21:30] <smanen> Flannel: http://www.whatsmyip.org/ports/ port 2222
[21:30] <smanen> Flannel: says my port is open
[21:30] <obf213> cool thanks
[21:30] <erUSUL> JuVV: the r8169 module should support it.
[21:30] <Kai_wp> I've determined that Xine is making it so that I can't play MP3s. Is it ok to uninstall Xine and it's related packages?
[21:31] <outbriber> jmicklos: I just upgraded to 8.10 beta 4 (pretty sure) with no problem with data loss. a bunch of settings were changed with programs that were reinstalled
[21:31] <bobertdos> zethero1: Have you reloaded the list recently?
[21:31] <andrewaclt> bobertdos, works wonderfully, thanks
[21:31] <smanen> Flannel: but i can't ssh myself yet
[21:31] <JuVV> erUSUL: will i have to install anything seperately?
[21:31] <Syco54645> bobernet: as i stated before, linpus did not place /var in tmpfs, that is something that i did to speed up the machine (as per the wiki that you pasted)
[21:31] <bobertdos> andrewaclt: no problem
[21:31] <erUSUL> JuVV: hopefully not
[21:31] <Kai_wp> Or is Xine a nessicary package?
[21:31] <zethero1> ﻿bobertdos: dozens of times
[21:32] <andrewaclt> bobertdos, Is their an explanation as to why it works?
[21:32] <Syco54645> bobernet: i am sitting here at the screen right now.  it says things such as "whoen failed to get attributes of '/var/log/dmesg' no such file or directory
[21:32] <bobernet> Syco54645: As you stated before, you did it with a custom kernel that you built.  have you done it with a stock kernel?
[21:32] <guntbert_> smanen: I followed only partly. Do you have a second computer at hand?
[21:32] <Syco54645> bobernet: chown cannot access '/var/log/mail.warn' no such file ore directory
[21:32] <JuVV> i tried kubuntu but it did not work .. i am using UNETbootin right now.. can u point me to the manual instructions for installing my network card?
[21:32] <bobertdos> andrewaclt: Because flash 9 does not natively support PulseAudio. libflashsupport adds that capability in to the plugin.
[21:33] <BlueKoala> Hi guys, I have a problem with nm-applet, it doesn't load properly. It will 30% of the time after a reboot though.
[21:33] <erUSUL> JuVV: well if you tried the livecd and it didn't work maybe you are not so lucky and need the driver from realtek
[21:33] <abrahm> is fuseblk a type of file system ?  when i try to mount with that it gives bad super block error...
[21:33] <bobernet> Syco54645: why are you mounting the entire /var as tmpfs?  that's wrong
[21:33] <Syco54645> bobernet: this is a build of the linpus kernel using their config file.  i have also tried make oldconfig with the newest hardy kernel sources using their config file (since their kernel was .23 and not .24) and it did not work either.
[21:33] <bobernet> Syco54645: /var contains persistent data
[21:33] <JuVV> erUSUL: any clues how to install it?
[21:33] <andrewaclt> bobertdos, yeah, but I had everything set to ALSA in System->Preferences->Sound ?!?
[21:34] <JuVV> i can d/l it on vista .. and put it on a usb drive
[21:34] <bobernet> Syco54645: Are you just mounting /var/log and /var/tmp as tmpfs or the whole /var tree?
[21:34] <Full_81_e> hi people!!!!
[21:34] <Syco54645> bobernet: i realize that, but it will save the ssd from wear and also speed it up.  the ssd in here is painfully slow.  it took 2+ hours to isntall ubuntu on it.  it has a 24 m/s read and a 7m/s write
[21:34] <erUSUL> JuVV: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=538448 ??
[21:34] <Cdilling> heya ll
[21:34] <perillux> Flannel: u there?
[21:35] <Syco54645> bobernet: not all of var, just /var/log/apt, /var/log. and /var/tmp
[21:35] <Syco54645> bobernet: sorry for not specifing before
[21:35] <bobertdos> andrewaclt: Unless you completely reinstall ALSA from the ground up, in Hardy, ALSA still sits within Pulse's framework.
[21:35] <bobernet> Syco54645: Ok.  Do you get an error when mounting them manually?
[21:36] <Syco54645> bobernet: klogd just finally timed out
[21:36] <erUSUL> JuVV: http://www.jamesonwilliams.com/hardy-r8168.html
[21:36] <Syco54645> i just got in
[21:36] <perillux> I tried using a minimal CD to install Ubuntu.  But when it turns on I just see a prompt that says "boot: " and I can type.  How do I proceed?
[21:36] <wols> perillux: press enter
[21:36] <erUSUL> perillux: hit enter
[21:36] <Syco54645> bobernet: i have no idea how to mount to tmpfs
[21:37] <abrahm> when i do cat /proc/mounts  it shows my drive as fuseblk, how would i mount that type manually ?
[21:37] <bobernet> Syco54645: this is the proper kconfig option "Virtual memory file system support (former shm fs)"
[21:37] <perillux> wols: erUSUL: and that's it?  it will install?  omg.. why didn't I think of that lol
[21:37] <wols> abrahm: you don't
[21:37] <abrahm> ?
[21:37] <erUSUL> perillux: no it will boot a linux kernel with the installer program
[21:37] <wols> abrahm: "mount"
[21:37] <Syco54645> bobernet: i have that in there, and it is listed under /proc/filesystems
[21:38] <Ikelo1> Excuse me, but are there any special procedures for unplugging a mass storage USB device, i.e. in OS X you move the device's icon to the trash to eject it, must one do anything of that nature in Ubuntu, or can one simply unplug the device...?
[21:38] <perillux> erUSUL: is there anything else I will have to do/type?
[21:38] <erUSUL> perillux: is the ubuntu alternate cd ??
[21:38] <Syco54645> bobernet: /var/log is already there now that it is booted.  it just seems that it is doing it too late or something
[21:38] <wols> Ikelo1: depends if it's mounted synced or not
[21:38] <JuVV_> does anyone know how to resolve this problem?? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/208012
[21:38] <perillux> erUSUL: mini cd.  (mini.iso)
[21:38] <perillux> erUSUL: minimal CD
[21:38] <abrahm> wols, why not ?
[21:39] <wols> abrahm: because
[21:39] <perillux> erUSUL: it's supposed to start and then download everything from the internet.
[21:39] <bobernet> Syco54645: you already added the mount commands to /etc/fstab?
[21:39] <DrRobotnik> lkelo1: I believe you just right click on the "usb disk" and click unmount
[21:39] <wols> erUSUL: and uses the debian installer
[21:39] <bobertdos> Ikelo1: It's generally a much safer idea to unmount it before unplugging it. For flash drives, you can usually just do that by right-clicking it on the desktop.
[21:39] <Syco54645> bobernet: yeah
[21:40] <obf213> when did ubuntu start song previews on mousover of the file?
[21:40] <erUSUL> perillux: then just follow on screen instructions it should show a text based instaler
[21:40] <erUSUL> wols: ty
[21:40] <Ikelo1> Ok thank you, I noticed that they could be unmounted, but I wasn't sure that was the correct feature I was looking for... tahkns again
[21:40] <perillux> erUSUL: ok, if I run into problems I will be back
[21:40] <Ikelo1> *thanks
[21:40] <qwerw> coudan80 are you here?
[21:40] <qwerw> cpudan80*
[21:41] <erUSUL> Ikelo1: right click on it select umount or eject
[21:41] <bobernet> Syco54645: you may need to make /etc/init.d/mountall run sooner
[21:41] <fsufitch> hey guys, i have a second time this happened with my firefox *on two different computers*. i'm running ubuntu 8.10 and the problem is that after a regular shutdown of firefox, firefox won't start up again. at all. whenever i try running it, it doesn't crash, but no window comes up either. i grepped for firefox processes and killed all of them, and still nothing. any ideas?
[21:41] <bobertdos> obf213: Oh it's done that for a while now. It just hasn't always been very consistent.
[21:41] <fsufitch> on the other computer i only solved the problem when i made a new account and used that
[21:41] <wols> !ot | fsufitch
[21:41] <bobernet> Syco54645: the links are in /etc/rcS.d
[21:42] <Syco54645> bobernet: but it works fine with the generic kernel, should it not work fine with a custom built one?
[21:42] <wols> fsufitch: intrepid is not supported here
[21:42] <erUSUL> !intrepid | fsufitch
[21:42] <fsufitch> wols: oops, 8.04
[21:42] <obf213> bobernet, cool i just noticed it today although i've been using ubuntu for over ayear
[21:42] <fsufitch> wols: i meant 8.04 but typed .10. sorry!
[21:42] <bobernet> Syco54645: i ASKED you that, and you said it didn't work with a generic kernel.  sheesh
[21:42] <wols> fsufitch: I don't care
[21:42] <qwerw> maby one of you can help me then. CPUDAN80 gave me a command that opened up a display settings thing that had a list of monotors and such. and allowed me to test them. would any of you know it?
[21:42] <bobernet> off to eat
[21:43] <Syco54645> bobernet: i said that it did before, then i did not understand your question
[21:44] <fsufitch> wols: that's friendly. to clarify, i am running ubuntu *8.04* on a 64 bit machine
[21:44] <legend2440> qwerw: gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[21:44] <wols> fsufitch: to clarify: I don't care what yaou do. don't bother me please
[21:45] <danbhfive> !paste > danbhfive
[21:45] <michael> Hi, I just installed wicd.  can someone help me get it to start on boot?  I did what the site said, but it doesn't work
[21:45] <qwerw> legend2440 thats it:P
[21:45] <qwerw> gracias
[21:45] <jerrold> hey all - im trying to completely uninstall compiz - i think ive done everything i could - but the compiz config settings manager stays on my system menu
[21:46] <outbriber> jerrold: remove compiz-manger
[21:46] <wols> jerrold: dpkg -l |grep compiz
[21:46] <erUSUL> qwerw: displayconfig-gtk ??
[21:46] <jerrold> thanks guys - ill try those
[21:46] <guntbert> fsufitch: you better ask in a firefox-channel, #firefox on the mozilla server
[21:46] <fsufitch> guntbert: thanks
[21:48] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Can someone recommend a SMS Gateway/server for Linux which is free?
[21:48] <wols> Nutzebahn: not a ubuntu question
[21:48] <jerrold> outbriber wols - the damned thing still stays - its in the menu - and hwne i select it - it still launches ;p
[21:48] <Nutzebahn> Yes, I want it for Ubuntu, wols.
[21:48] <Trinithis> would anyone know how to install hplip-2.8.7?
[21:48] <woli> is there an official ubuntu-coders channel? is that i want to make a panel aplication
[21:48] <wols> jerrold: I told you to run something
[21:49] <outbriber> jerrod: try wols' command
[21:49] <DaFFes> hi guys, I'm having a problem with wine in emulating steam, when I change de workspace the steam game moves with so I can't "minimize" cs for nothing, does anyone knows how to make the wine application stays don't come up of the other windows?
[21:49] <wols> Nutzebahn: this is NOT a ubuntu support question. you are Offtopic. don't ask this question here anymore please
[21:49] <Aturner44> can anyone tell me where to download the .deb file for the "patch" command?
[21:49] <Aturner44> :S
[21:49] <Nutzebahn> So where should it be asked then?
[21:49] <wols> Aturner44: packages.ubuntu.com
[21:49] <jrib> Aturner44: patch is in the repositories.  Do you know about APT?
[21:50] <Aturner44> yes i do but atm i dont have an active internet connection so i need to download on this computer which is xp then transfer it over
[21:50] <wols> Aturner44: I just told you
[21:50] <Aturner44> i need the patch command so i can get my internet working you see
[21:50] <Aturner44> ohhh
[21:50] <Aturner44> didnt see that :P sorry! thankyou.
[21:50] <wols> Aturner44: you will probably need more than that
[21:51] <jerrold> wols: i did - it didnt do anything dpkg -l |grep compiz - maybe i have to restart?
[21:51] <wols> e.g a compiler, kernel headers,etc
[21:51] <guntbert> Nutzebahn: try in #ubuntu-offtopic please, as it is definitely no *support* question
[21:51] <wols> jerrold: are you running windows?
[21:51] <wols> jerrold: unless you want to run a new kernel or change hardware you NEVER restart
[21:52] <jerrold> wols: then dkp -l |grep compiz didnt remove the settings manager  - in synaptic i unchecked anything that had compiz
[21:52] <wols> jerrold: the command isn't supposed to remove anything
[21:52] <michael> does anyone know what i type into the console to reinstall the gnome wireless manager
[21:52] <deebus> can someone help me install the nvidia drivers?  apparently I've done something horribly wrong
[21:52] <jerrold> no idea how im still able to launch the damned thing
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> werd up yalls
[21:52] <wols> !nvidia | deebus
[21:52] <michael> sudo apt-get install wireless-manager ?
[21:52] <erUSUL> jerrold: sudo aptitude purge compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:52] <DaFFes> Guys does anyone knows why my steam go to all workspaces when emulating with wine?
[21:53] <wols> erUSUL: the dpkg -l would have shown that if it were installed in any way
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> DaFFes: wine isnt an emulator ;)
[21:53] <DaFFes> haha
[21:53] <wols> DaFFes: #winehq
[21:53] <DaFFes> wine is not an emulator right
[21:53] <DaFFes> hehe
[21:53] <Aturner44> ummm, is there any specifix package i need for the patch command because there seems to be a few :S
[21:53] <wols> Aturner44: there is one
[21:53] <erUSUL> wols: sorry seems i jumped late on the conversation ...
[21:54] <Aturner44> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/patch
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> michael: wifi-radio
[21:54] <Aturner44> :D
[21:54] <jerrold> wols: oh ok - so dkp just showed nothing - i tried apt-get purge and it did remove some stuff - im just confused on how the hell the settings manager is still there
[21:54] <jrib> Aturner44: you need the patch deb and all of its dependencies that you don't have
[21:54] <D_Graham> any1 know what codec to install for a audio/x-wms
[21:54] <wols> jerrold: there is no dkp
[21:54] <ehtom> I accidentally put /boot in a LVM volume
[21:54] <Hexxeh> Hello
[21:54] <ehtom> how can I fix this?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> D_Graham: w32codecs
[21:54] <Hexxeh> Does an ubuntu live cd have any way of recovering partitions?
[21:54] <D_Graham> hmm i got those installed
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> ehtom: check /etc/fstab
[21:54] <ikonia> ehtom: put it on a flat file system, change fstab and your grub menu.lst
[21:54] <wols> Aturner44: as this page shows, there is only ONE, no more
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> D_Graham: let me websearch
[21:54] <jerrold> sorry dpkg
[21:54] <erUSUL> !info patch > Aturner44
[21:55] <Guest24341> is it just me or when I unzip any of these drivers all I see is the README file  http://snapshots.madwifi.org/special/
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> D_Graham: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587342
[21:55] <L_inf> How do I change the default size of the Terminal window???
[21:55] <D_Graham> k, i had it working in amarok for awhile but when i switched to exaile lol
[21:55] <Traveler96> hay whats up
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> D_Graham: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=848535
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Traveler96
[21:55] <jrib> L_inf: use the --geometry switch in the launcher
[21:56] <wols> Guest24341: READ more carefully if you can do this
[21:56] <Traveler96> whatsthe best wasy 2get elitearmor
[21:56] <bobertdos> !recover > Hexxeh
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest24341: is it a zip file or a tar.gz file?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest24341: you can get madwifi from repos
[21:57] <wols> ActionParsnip: it doesn't matter. he's to ignorant to actually read the readme file...
[21:57] <ehtom> ikonia: lilo is my bootloader, not grub
[21:57] <wols> ActionParsnip: in hardy no more. ath5k it is htere
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Traveler96: what is elitearmour?
[21:57] <ehtom> ActionParsnip: check /etc/fstab for what?
[21:57] <wols> ActionParsnip: E_CHAN
[21:57] <Traveler96> elite armor
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> ehtom: to see where /boot is mounted
[21:57] <wols>  Traveler96 this is a ubuntu support channel. NOT a game channel
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> ehtom: yu can change where its mounted there
[21:58] <L_inf> jrib: What is a laucher??
[21:58] <ehtom> ActionParsnip: its mounted on /dev/mapper/Linux-boot
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> wols: im on a Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01) and it works fiiiiine
[21:58] <jrib> L_inf: it's the file that gives you the icon to click on in your menu
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> ehtom: thats all i got, sorry
[21:58] <Hexxeh> I've just tried parted
[21:58] <Flannel> ehtom: You'll do the same steps, move /boot off of LVM, update fstab, then update lilo
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> ty Flannel
[21:59] <Hexxeh> and upon trying to do anything with the drive it says "Error unable to open /dev/sda - unrecognized disk label."
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: run sudo fdisk -l
[21:59] <wols> Hexxeh: sudo fdisk -l
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: it'll tell you wha labels you have
[22:00] <Hexxeh> Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[22:00] <Hexxeh> but I'm trying to recover the partition table
[22:00] <Hexxeh> Vista failed to boot and hosed itself
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: run the command and do us a pastebin of the utput
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> !paste | Hexxeh
[22:00] <erUSUL> !info testdisk > Hexxeh
[22:00] <erUSUL> !info gpart > Hexxeh
[22:01] <danand> exit
[22:01] <Hexxeh> http://pastebin.com/m97df117
[22:01] <Hexxeh> sda is the disk with the partition table I'm attempting to recover
[22:02] <Tauri> 1337
[22:02] <zoldar> hello, how can I recover a wpa password from networkmanager ? i have found a configuration xml file in gconf associated with the network, but there's no key/passphrase - at least not in clear text
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: ok you have an sdb1 and and sdc1
[22:02] <asathoor> I have no sound in vlc :-/- suggestions?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: your sda looks screwed, id scan it to attempt to repair it
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> asathoor: have you chosen the correct sound system for vlc?
[22:03] <Hexxeh> ActionParsnip: I know it's screwed, I'm trying to repair it.
[22:03] <Nexus6a> \join lgp
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> asathoor: try selecting the right device in settings
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> asathoor: does a reboot help?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: id run fsck on it
[22:03] <asathoor> ActionParsnip >> ok
[22:04] <Hexxeh> ActionParsnip: It's NTFS and it's the partition table that has died.
[22:04] <wols> ActionParsnip: fsck on _what_?
[22:04] <asathoor> ActionParsnip no - i have rebooted
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> wols: the sda drive
[22:04] <bobertdos> asathoor: Are you running any other applications that would take control of Pulse?
[22:04] <wols> ActionParsnip: now tell me how one can fsck whole drives...
[22:04] <guntbert> Hexxeh: there is no automatic way to repair a bad partition table :(
[22:05] <asathoor> I don't think so -
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: hmm, then i gots no idea, you could try to recover the docs then reinstall but i dont have much hope for getting it bootable etc
[22:05] <erUSUL> !info gpart | Hexxeh
[22:05] <asathoor> bobertdos : it could be the problem...
[22:05] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | Hexxeh
[22:05] <msetim> it's secure to put usbcore.autosuspend=1 in grub config?:
[22:05] <Hexxeh> I've added the universe repo to my livecd
[22:05] <Hexxeh> ran update
[22:05] <Hexxeh> still can't find gpart
[22:05] <jrib> Hexxeh: "gparted"
[22:06] <Dandre1> hello,
[22:06] <Hexxeh> Tried it
[22:06] <Hexxeh> it errored
[22:06] <jrib> Hexxeh: pastebin
[22:06] <erUSUL> jrib: no gpart is a different utility to recover fscked partition tables
[22:06] <erUSUL> jrib: different from gparted that's it
[22:07] <rsty> is it possible to have linux on a harddrive and windows on another and create a dual boot system from the same mbr/grub (which would be the linux one) ??
[22:07] <jrib> erUSUL: oh, thanks.  Didn't know about it
[22:07] <Dandre1> I wonder how to launch a firefox with some resolution that is far above my screen resolution in some virtual x server.
[22:07] <choikachoika> Hi, if anyone is good with wireless problems (I can connect, but only within a 10 foot radius of the router) then please PM me!!!
[22:07] <Hexxeh> erUSUL: How can I get it running on my livecd?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> rsty: grub can make windows boot
[22:07] <Kai_wp> I've determined that Xine is making it so that I can't play MP3s. Is it ok to uninstall Xine and it's related packages? Or is Xine a nessicary package?
[22:07] <erUSUL> rsty: yep; ppretty common configuration
[22:08] <rsty> but each OS is on a diff hard drive
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> rsty: install windows first then grub will autoconfigure for you
[22:08] <erUSUL> Hexxeh: sudo apt-get install gpart ?
[22:08] <Hexxeh> no installation candidate
[22:08] <rsty> windows is already installed and linux is already installed
[22:08] <mon^rch> gparted
[22:08] <rsty> just on different drives
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> rsty: thats fine
[22:08] <Kai_wp> I can safely uninstall Xine right?
[22:08] <rsty> and i went into my menu.lst
[22:08] <asathoor> choikachoika > does anything block the router?
[22:08] <rsty> added windows
[22:08] <rsty> and when i reboot, theres no option for windows
[22:08] <John0Neil> Hi. When I want to join a channel with an accent with XChat, this don't work. I can't see anybody on the channel. Is there any way to correct this?
[22:08] <Kai_wp> Or can it cause problems?
[22:09] <Kai_wp> Since I was going to try to uninstall it and it's related packages.
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> rsty: as long as you tell it the right device to fire up the windows from it will boot it
[22:09] <choikachoika> asathoor, not physically
[22:09] <bobertdos> rsty: You'll need to add an entry for Windows in menu.lst
[22:09] <rsty> well
[22:09] <choikachoika> I've moved it to another room and it does the same thing
[22:09] <rsty> i did bob
[22:09] <Kai_wp> But I'm not sure if it'll cause problems.
[22:09] <Hexxeh> wait, i had the sources setup wrong
[22:09] <rsty> would sata2 be hd1,0?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Kai_wp: should be fine as its only a sound thingy
[22:09] <rsty> right?
[22:09] <Hexxeh> okay, downloading now
[22:09] <rsty> because thats what i put
[22:09] <Kai_wp> ActionParsnip: Alright, thanks
[22:10] <erUSUL> !who | Hexxeh
[22:10] <Dandre1> is there any way to have a firefox with resolution of, say 3000x2000, on a destop at 1024x768? for instance with some virtual x server?
[22:10] <Hexxeh> Dandre1: Perhaps with some strange VNC setup
[22:10] <wols> Dandre1: you can have a virtual resolution with your current X server
[22:11] <choikachoika> So.. anyone have any ideas?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> choikachoika: wassup?
[22:11] <rsty> action, it doesnt work.. how can i fix it?
[22:11] <Kai_wp> Is it possible to remove all packages with "xine" in their name? Since "sudo dpkg -r *xine*" returns "dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove *xine* which isn't installed.
[22:11] <Kai_wp> "
[22:11] <Mr_Fixit2> is there a setting for my wifi that makes my connection burst for a few seconds then shut off???
[22:11] <rsty> i put windows as hd1,0 because its my 2nd sata hdd
[22:11] <choikachoika> ActionParsnip,  i can connect to a network just fine, but once i get about 5 feet away from the router, I can't get any packets
[22:12] <Hexxeh> choikachoika: Any wireless phones (non-mobile) nearby?
[22:12] <Kai_wp> Although I know I have xine packages since "dpkg -l *xine*" returns a large list.
[22:12] <Hexxeh> 2.4ghz phones can sometimes interfere with WiFi
[22:12] <Dandre1> I haven't got it to work corretly Hexxeh, the vnc viewer dosn't fit the window and I want to view all the frame
[22:12] <choikachoika> Hexxeh, nope.  htis doesn't happen on XP either
[22:12] <Dandre1> scaled
[22:12] <Hexxeh> choikachoika: Ah
[22:12] <blip-> hi, can anyone recommend a reliable easy to use website creation software... i'm looking for something simple not bloated like dreamweaver... the repos have bluefish and screem.  would you recommend any of there?   or am i better off with another program ?   thanks
[22:12] <dekushrub> can someone help me with dvd codecs on ubuntu 8.04?
[22:12] <jrib> !dvd > dekushrub
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> !dvd | dekushrub
[22:12] <neWbie> hello, why cant i upload an image on imageshack?
[22:12] <deebus> video working fine now, but no audio
[22:12] <blip-> !html
[22:12] <smanen> hi all
[22:13] <blip-> !webdesign
[22:13] <mon^rch> blip-: kompozer
[22:13] <deebus> when I click on the audio icon, I get the following:
[22:13] <wols> neWbie: ask imageshack, not us
[22:13] <casao> hey, got a question - are there any specific  modules required to put /var/logs in TmpFS in the RAM? Not anything extra for ubuntu, but which modules let you do that in general
[22:13] <smanen> can someone help me to get my ssh server working?
[22:13] <Dandre1> wols: can this virtual screen resolution be dynamically set?
[22:13] <deebus> No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[22:13] <Kai_wp> Is there a way to run "dpkg -r" with wildcards in the package name?
[22:13] <deebus> any body know what's up with that?
[22:13] <wols> Dandre1: cause X can't do it
[22:13] <Siph0n> hey, does anyone know the command to put my laptop screen on my tv? It is over a VGA cable, and I forget the command I use to use
[22:13] <choikachoika> Hexxeh, have any idea of what to do?
[22:13] <neWbie> wols... i can with xp from another machine, ubuntu is the prob
[22:13] <wols> casao: just make a ramdisk
[22:13] <blip-> mon^rch: i like the sound of that.  usually K* software are really good.  ill check it out now.  thanks
[22:13] <diamante> blip-: i think mozilla have something for, but raw html/css works fine for me
[22:13] <Hexxeh> choikachoika: If it works in XP but not Ubunu, then no sorry =/
[22:14] <Hexxeh> erUSUL: What are my chances with gpart? It was a one partition NTFS disk.
[22:14] <choikachoika> Hexxeh,  :( .
[22:14]  * Mr_Fixit2 kicks mon^rch
[22:14] <mon^rch> blip-: I use kompozer... its awesome
[22:14] <choikachoika> Maybe I should just switch back to XP until there's a fix
[22:14] <erUSUL> Hexxeh: dunno really you may want to try testdisk too
[22:14] <blip-> choikachoika: yes you probably should
[22:15] <casao> wols: i've got it setup already, the thing is, we're working on a variant for the Acer aspire one, building a custom kernel to speed boot up time, but right now, it's having issues making a ramdisk, it kicks out of the ubuntu logo screen and shows the text, it says it can't create the ramdisks and then the logging daemon refuses to load
[22:15] <Sake> I have a command line question: how do I copy one folder recursively into another and make cp ignore all the .svn folders?
[22:15] <erUSUL> Hexxeh: you can make it run to check the disk and tell you what it finds without really doing anything ...
[22:15] <smanen> i am trying to set up a ssh server
[22:15] <Kai_wp> Why do wildcards work when you list a package but not when you try to remove a package?
[22:15] <casao> Trying to figure out exactly which modules are necessary for /var/log to be on a ramdisk
[22:15] <scx> why ubuntu doesn't have games like Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory or Urban Terror? i found only Nexuiz and similar games, but it isn't supported. maybe should i add non-free repo?
[22:15] <wols> casao: I don't support custom kernels for no good reason
[22:15] <Dandre1> the vnc solution could be fine if I can solve those tow problems:
[22:15] <Dandre1> - find a viewer that can scale
[22:15] <Dandre1> - run firefox full frame in it
[22:15] <rsty> do i have to do anything in the grub shell to add windows to grub?? or just add the entry in menu.lst???
[22:15] <jrib> Sake: you could use find
[22:15] <Hexxeh> smanen: apt-get install openssh-server then /etc/init.d/sshd start
[22:15] <wols> rsty: add the entry
[22:16] <ganymede> is it safe to make zsh my default shell?
[22:16] <Sake> jrib, how so?
[22:16] <casao> wols: if you have no good reason, then just answer the direct question, i'd say
[22:16] <amerdsp> Greetings....
[22:16] <rsty> wols
[22:16] <rsty> its on a diff hdd
[22:16] <dekushrub> seriously, for some reason dvd codecs don't work
[22:16] <rsty> i dont have to setup (hd1,0) in grub shell?
[22:16] <wols> casao: YOU have no good reason for a custom kernel. and custom kernels are not supported either. good day
[22:16] <smanen> I am trying to setup a ssh server. I am pretty sure that the ports are properlly forwarded but I keep getting a "connection refused" message
[22:16] <deebus> can someone help me figure out why my nvidia ck804 audio controller isn't working?
[22:16] <amerdsp> I have a question, is this a good place
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> scx: it does have urban terror
[22:16] <dekushrub> amerdsp, yes
[22:16] <Mr_Fixit> so yea.. anyone know why my laptop would burst wifi for a few seconds and shut off???
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> scx: it plays a lot of games awesomely
[22:16] <casao> wols: we have a perfectly good reason for a custom kernel, don't sit there and tell me not, say "We don't support it", don't pitch a fit because you said what you wanted to say wrong
[22:17] <Mr_Fixit> *wifi shut off not lappy
[22:17] <Dandre1> Hexxeh: ?
[22:17] <smanen> Hexxeh: sorry didn't see your messgae
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Mr_Fixit: got latest drivers and updates?
[22:17] <Hexxeh> Dandre1: No idea really =/
[22:17] <Mr_Fixit> dunno...
[22:17] <jrib> Sake: have it copy the files it finds and exclude files with .svn in their path
[22:17] <smanen> Hexxeh: i have done that already
[22:17] <bobertdos> dekushrub: Using what player? Checklist: dvdread, dvdnav, libdvdcss2.........
[22:17] <Hexxeh> smanen: Is it on the same network as you?
[22:17] <amerdsp> When I suspend my laptop that has Hardy on it, it freezes when I wake it up.. I have to hold the power button
[22:17] <Mr_Fixit> i can't really get them if my wifi bursts like that
[22:17] <smanen> Hexxeh: i have forwarded to port 2222
[22:17] <Sake> jrib, don't know how to do that... any idea? How do I make find results arguments to cp?
[22:17] <Hexxeh> smanen: And have you opened the port on the ubuntu box?
[22:18] <smanen> Hexxeh: yes
[22:18] <deebus> I seem to have no audio, and I don't know what to do about it
[22:18] <smanen> Hexxeh: not sure
[22:18] <jrib> Sake: you should do one thing at a time, try to figure out how to make it ignore stuff with .svn first
[22:18] <dekushrub> bobertdos, i have dvd dread installed from when i installed the restricted extras but when i inserted the office dvd it didn't work
[22:18] <scx> ActionParsnip: it is in standard repositories? or i have to add some?
[22:18] <smanen> Hexxeh: i opened the port on the router
[22:18] <Sake> jrib, ok, thanks
[22:18] <Hexxeh> smanen: Are you using  GUI on the ubuntu box?
[22:18] <wols> smanen: sudo netstat -anp |less
[22:18] <jrib> Sake: poke me if you get stuck
[22:18] <bobertdos> dekushrub: libdvdcss2 is important for movies
[22:18] <erUSUL> Sake: xargs or the -exec argument of find . man find for details
[22:18] <Kai_wp> Has anyone ever used wildcards in a name when removing packages with "dpkg -r [filename]"?
[22:18] <Sake> and my next question: Is there an easy to use backup tool for ubuntu or should I just learn rdiff-backup at the command line?
[22:19] <Sake> erUSUL, thanks!
[22:19] <casao> So, who in here is willing to answer a simple question about modules? Which modules do we need to made a ramdisk
[22:19] <erUSUL> !info sbackup
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> scx: for urban terror there is a download script, its not in reops
[22:19] <bobertdos> dekushrub: that package comes from the medibuntu repository
[22:19] <smanen> Hexxeh: yes... not for ssh though
[22:19] <dekushrub> bobertdos, how do i set up the medibuntu repository
[22:19] <smanen> Hexxeh: i don't us any frontend for ssh
[22:19] <wols> !medibuntu  > dekushrub
[22:20] <scx> ActionParsnip: so why there not 3D network/actions games in repos?
[22:20] <smanen> wols: tcp6       0      0 :::2222                 :::*                    LISTEN      23906/sshd
[22:20] <scx> ActionParsnip: because they are non-free or what?
[22:20] <amerdsp> so does anyone have a clue how to solve the suspend problem?
[22:21] <smanen> wols: does this mean the port 2222 is open?
[22:21] <Xcerca> scx ,  you could make one if you want   ;-)
[22:21] <erUSUL> scx: probably redistribution is not allowed
[22:21] <wols> scx: there are. in universe
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> scx: dunno, ask the repo maintainers
[22:21] <wols> smanen: no. it means something is listening on port 2222. a sshd
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> scx: open source == no garuntees for service or stuff like that
[22:22] <bobertdos> scx: Well, there's that and also the fact reverse engineering DirectX for wine is.....well, a challenge for developers.
[22:22] <erUSUL> scx: in case of ET and UT there are companies that hold rights for the artwork maps textures etc (now that the 3d engine is gpl)
[22:22] <smanen> wols: the ssh daemon server as far as i know
[22:22] <diamante> anyone running ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy) with a nvidia geforce 2 managed to use 3d acceleration ?
[22:22] <wols> !anyone  > diamante
[22:22] <Kenster> if someone is available I need some help with network config
[22:22] <wols> !ask > Kenster
[22:22] <smanen> wols: if it is listening shouldn't i be able to connect via ssh?
[22:23] <wols> smanen: not necessarily. on the host of the server: telnet localhost 2222
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> sx
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> scx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=655355
[22:23] <scx> bobertdos: lol, it is native linux game
[22:23] <poont> Hi there I am a new Ubuntu user (It is amazing btw) I was wondering if there was a way to have a different background on each panel?
[22:23] <occy> howdy gang, what's the easiest way to dual-boot xp and ubuntu?   do I install Windows first?  or Ubuntu?
[22:24] <Gekone> Night all.
[22:24] <Kenster> my onboard lan is available and my pci network card is unclaimed....both have drivers installed
[22:24] <poont> occy
[22:24] <diamante> what kernel version support 3d acceleration on a legacy nvidia video board under ubuntu 7.10 ?
[22:24] <dr_Willis> occy,  windows first, then ubuntu
[22:24] <wols> occy: install windows first. then it will be automatic
[22:24] <scx> erUSUL: but there are glest (3d models etc isnt free) and similar game
[22:24] <alex-weej> poont: not right now, soon :)
[22:24] <smanen> wols: it says protocol mismatch
[22:24] <wols> diamante: not a kernel issue
[22:24] <poont> I suggest you confiure your HD with ubuntu then install windows then ubuntu
[22:24] <dr_Willis> diamante,  most all them should.
[22:24] <bobertdos> scx: Ah, yes. I misinterpreted your question.
[22:24] <smanen> wols: due to using telnet instead of ssh i suposse
[22:24] <wols> smanen: no
[22:24] <occy> ok guys thanks
[22:25] <poont> alex-weej thank you very much looking forward to it :D
[22:25] <wols> !nvidia  > diamante
[22:25] <diamante> wols: it worked before on 7.04 (feisty), i assumed some conflict with newer kernels
[22:25] <erUSUL> scx: maybe glest developers *do* *allow* for their work to be redistribuible but ET and UT ones *do* *not*. it is not hard to understand
[22:25] <bubaphex> hi all, i've lost/forgotten the password to root, is any one able to help me change it/find out what it was, i dont remember adding one when installing ubuntu
[22:25] <wols> bubaphex: there is no root password and never was
[22:25] <L_inf> jrib: Thanks a lot!!
[22:26] <diamante> thanks
[22:26] <Xcerca> ﻿bubaphex   just use sudo
[22:26] <Kenster> wireless pci card shows as unclaimed...how do I get it to work and show wireless networks?
[22:26] <wols> Kenster: what wlan chip?
[22:26] <scx> ActionParsnip: thx for link
[22:26] <smanen> wols: i can pastebin what telnet localhost 2222 returns if you want
[22:26] <Xcerca> ﻿﻿bubaphex   do sudo gedit .or any other app
[22:26] <Kenster> wols - where do I get that info?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> scx: np bro
[22:27] <wols> Kenster: from lspci for example
[22:27] <erUSUL> Xcerca: for graphic cards is gksudo sudo can be dangerous
[22:27] <kuckurucc> Does someone know a gtk app which has a registration form?
[22:27] <smanen> wols: http://pastebin.com/m260effd7
[22:27] <bubaphex> thanks, i just moved from fedora to ubuntu so still getting use to it, thanks
[22:27] <erUSUL> !sudo > bubaphex
[22:27] <Kenster> I may need some help in getting the info you need
[22:27] <wols> smanen: it shows exactly what it's supposed to show
[22:27] <wols> smanen: do you have another host in your LAN?
[22:28] <erUSUL> Kenster: lspci | grep -i net
[22:28] <bubaphex> thanks ubottu
[22:28] <deebus> can someone help me figure out why my sound doesn't work?
[22:28] <deebus> please?
[22:28] <smanen> wols: if you mean other pcs i have two more connected
[22:28] <deebus> nvidia ck804 ac97
[22:28] <smanen> wols: behind the same router
[22:28] <scx> ActionParsnip: i tried to wget this sh file, but i can't :-/ have you it?
[22:28] <deebus> I don't know what to do
[22:28] <wols> diamante: ask a sensible, directed, answerable question or you will never get any help
[22:28] <Sake> Is there an easy to use backup tool for ubuntu or should I just learn rdiff-backup at the command line?
[22:28] <deebus> anyone?  bueller?
[22:28] <wols> !asla | deebus
[22:28] <wols> !alsa | deebus ~
[22:29] <Cpudan80> !backup | Sake
[22:29] <poont> damn, If I knew how to code I would join this project in a second!
[22:29] <Sake> Cpudan80, Thanks!
[22:29] <Cpudan80> Sake: np
[22:29] <xyblor> Why would I have an active process called sendmail-mta if I already uninstalled the sendmail package?
[22:29] <diamante> deebus: try unmutting the channels, using alsamixer
[22:29] <Sake> !sbackup
[22:30] <wols> xyblor: dpkg -l |grep sendmail
[22:30] <msetim> hi
[22:30] <deebus> when I click the audio icon, I get the following error:
[22:30] <deebus> "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[22:30] <xyblor> wols: that gives me results marked "ii"
[22:30] <oinck> i use /etc/rc.local to start an openvpn connection at boot - anyone know how I can abort a process like that once i'm in? i can't find it in the system monitor
[22:31] <jasuus> hello.  Im getting sick of seeing the backup emacs files foo.bar~ when i use "ls" in a term window
[22:31] <msetim> i put dirty_writeback_centisecs seted to 1500 in /etc/sysctl... however when I reboot it's not work... I have to exec sysctl -p to get it seted
[22:31] <wols> xyblor: I want to see it ALL. not a useless description by you
[22:31] <jasuus> how can i change that?
[22:31] <smanen> wols: should i be able to connect from the same computer which has the ssh server with the external ip and port forwarding?
[22:31] <the_padawan> hello all. I am trying to install ubuntu on a desktop. I get the error "The ext3 file system creation in partition #3 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) failed. When I look in the terminal, I do not see any /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda[234]. any ideas?
[22:31] <xyblor> wols: it's okay I removed the 3 entries, I don't know why apt-get remove sendmail didn't get rid of those
[22:31] <pontifex> !cloning
[22:32] <bubaphex> how do i change the permissions of /var/www when im not root ?
[22:32] <wols> xyblor: cause you MUST have a MTA
[22:32] <Cpudan80> bubaphex: you dont
[22:32] <wols> bubaphex: you can't. use sudo
[22:32] <Cpudan80> bubaphex: sudo chmod {-R} ... /var/www
[22:32] <xyblor> $ dpkg -l | grep sendmail
[22:32] <xyblor> ii  sendmail-base                              8.14.1-8ubuntu1                      powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[22:32] <xyblor> ii  sendmail-bin                               8.14.1-8ubuntu1                      powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[22:32] <Cpudan80> bubaphex: If you add -R -- it will apply the chmod down through all the subitems
[22:32] <wols> Cpudan80: that's a bad way
[22:33] <xyblor> ii  sendmail-cf                                8.14.1-8ubuntu1                      powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[22:33] <FloodBot1> xyblor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:33] <Cpudan80> wols: Why is that bad?
[22:33] <milagros> Buenas ,,, alguien que me pueda ayudar con Picasa en Ubuntu 8.04
[22:33] <wols> xyblor: you've been put on autoignore for spamming. good day
[22:33] <milagros> Como lo instalo...
[22:33] <Cpudan80> !es | milagros
[22:33] <wols> Cpudan80: why'd do you want to change permissions? owners, ok. but not permissions
[22:33] <oinck> bubaphex: if you are having trouble seeing your php scripts in action, try loading http://localhost/ in your browser
[22:33] <smanen> wols: should i be able to connect from the same computer which has the ssh server with the external ip and port forwarding?
[22:33] <Cpudan80> wols: oops
[22:33] <wols> smanen: I asked you something. can you answer?
[22:34] <Cpudan80> bubaphex: sudo chown {-R} user:group /var/www
[22:34] <bubaphex> im basicly wanting to set me as owner in /var/www/ so i can start adding whiles in there
[22:34] <Sake> how's Backula? Is it worth looking into or should I stick with sbackup?
[22:34] <Cpudan80> bubaphex: ignore the first command I sent you
[22:34] <Cpudan80> wols: I meant chown :-/
[22:34] <Kenster> wols - wireless is Realtech RTL 8185
[22:34] <oinck> anyone familiar with openvpn?
[22:34] <wols> !realtek | Kenster
[22:34] <speaker``> hello.someone pls help me.how to make shortcut icon on desktop
[22:34] <Cpudan80> bubaphex: Then add yourself to a group that can write to that folder *not root*
[22:34] <wols> Kenster: if you are unlucky you will need to use ndiswrapper
[22:35] <wols> bibfortuna: just chown the folder to your user
[22:35] <wols> files too of course
[22:35] <Grenyaris> is there a program I can install that will give me access to MoBo info, such as temp and fan speed?
[22:35] <wols> bubaphex^:  just chown the folder to your user
[22:35] <bubaphex> cpudan80 i got this error back chown: invalid user: `user:group'
[22:35] <oinck> speaker``: for a program in your startup menu? or do you only know the terminal command
[22:35] <Cpudan80> wols: bad idea
[22:35] <wols> Grenyaris: lm-sensors
[22:36] <wols> Cpudan80: why?
[22:36] <smanen> wols: sorry, if you mean to the question about the hosts in the LAN i answered:
[22:36] <Cpudan80> bubaphex: that was just an example
[22:36] <smanen> wols: if you mean other pcs i have two more connected
[22:36] <smanen> wols: behind the same router
[22:36] <wols> smanen: telnet frm one of those other two pcs
[22:36] <speaker``> im new for ubuntu
[22:36] <wols> Cpudan80: why is it bad?
[22:36] <Cpudan80> wols: It should stay owned by root (or www or whatever the default is) -- he should add himself to a group with permissions to write that folder
[22:36] <oinck> speaker``: rightclick on an item in your startup menu, and choose 'Add this launcher to desktop'
[22:36] <wols> Cpudan80: why? note that /var/www is owned by root.root
[22:37] <Cpudan80> wols: yeah.... some installations own it root:www
[22:37] <wols> Cpudan80: also, perms are 644
[22:37] <wols> Cpudan80: no
[22:37] <wols> Cpudan80: we are in ubuntu. it's root.root. again. why is chowing ot user bad?
[22:37] <smanen> wols: the other pcs have only windows
[22:37] <wols> smanen: irrelevant
[22:37] <wols> smanen: windwos has a telnet.exe
[22:37] <Cpudan80> wols: It would be better to use a group -- what happens if he adds another user account that wants write access to that folder too?
[22:37] <speaker``> thanks oinck  :)
[22:38] <smanen> wols: when i telnet with putty it shuts down
[22:38] <wols> Cpudan80: if. big if
[22:38] <smanen> wols: when i ssh it gives a connection refused
[22:38] <pontifex> I have a question concerning disk cloning to and from an Ubuntu server.
[22:38] <bubaphex> Cpudan80, tottaly convused, i did sudo chown {-R} user:rob /var/www (rob my user name) keep getting a invaild user name error
[22:38] <wols> smanen: I didn't speak about putty, did I?
[22:38] <HS^> wheres the offtopic ubuntu channel
[22:38] <HS^> ?>
[22:38] <Cpudan80> bubaphex: Assuming you want to do it the bad way...
[22:38] <wols> bubaphex: "user" is no username
[22:38] <wols> !permissions | bubaphex
[22:38] <oinck> speaker``: np. if you only know the shell command, or if you want to rearrange your startup menu, have a look at System > Preferences > Main Menu. Good luck with Ubuntu!
[22:38] <HS^> !offtopic
[22:39] <Cpudan80> bubaphex: sudo chown -R rob:root /var/www
[22:39] <Cpudan80> bubaphex: you should really use a group... but... oh well
[22:39] <wols> Cpudan80: rob:rob
[22:39] <bubaphex> thanks cpudan80
[22:39] <Cpudan80> wols: rob:root will also work
[22:39] <Cpudan80> at least I think it will...
[22:39] <wols> Cpudan80: file creation umask is 644, so group won't cut it
[22:39] <smanen> wols: telnet says connection refused as well
[22:40] <wols> smanen: what commandline?
[22:40] <Cpudan80> wols: good point
[22:40] <speaker``> thank you so much oinck
[22:40] <speaker``> :)
[22:40] <Cpudan80> bubaphex: use rob:rob instead of rob:root
[22:40] <pontifex> I'm attempting to find an OSS disk cloning solution for imaging a variety of hardware from a central server.  Either via PXE or LiveCD.
[22:40] <smanen> wols: telnet smanen.homelinux.com 2222
[22:40] <Cpudan80> wols: that's another thing
[22:40] <wols> smanen: learn to use windows telnet. ask ##windows
[22:40] <Flannel> wols: please be helpful
[22:40] <Cpudan80> wols: I really dont like how ubuntu (and other distros) make groups for each user
[22:40] <Cpudan80> That's very unnecessary
[22:40] <wols> smanen: and it's the wrong hostname too of course
[22:40] <Grenyaris> Thanks, ﻿wols...
[22:41] <wols> Flannel: where am I not helpful? this is not ##windows, so no windows help
[22:41] <Cpudan80> smanen: Telnet is port 23 by default, it isn't really safe to use over a wide area network
[22:41] <smanen> wols: why do you say that?
[22:41] <Nutzebahn> Does anyone here use Foobar2000 in Ubuntu?
[22:41] <wols> Cpudan80: this is for testing purposes in which case it's irrelevant
[22:41] <Flannel> wols: "too bad" doesn't cut it if you've suggested they use something.
[22:41] <wols> Nutzebahn: could be used under wine
[22:41] <Dave123> smanen, telnet is clear text so you can sniff it
[22:42] <wols> Flannel: I won't support windows here. then you support him. have fun
[22:42] <smanen> wols: smanen.homelinux.com is the domain name of my router
[22:42] <Dave123> smanen, you are better off using ssh
[22:42] <Cpudan80> Flannel: telnet is not a windows thing
[22:42] <Nutzebahn> Will it work perfectly?
[22:42] <Cpudan80> oops
[22:42] <wols> smanen: still the wrong IP. but Flannel volunteered. ask him. good day
[22:42] <Cpudan80> sorry Flannel
[22:42] <Flannel> Cpudan80: I'm aware.
[22:42] <Cpudan80> wols: Telnet is not a windows thing
[22:42] <Cpudan80> Flannel: yeah, typed wrong nick
[22:42] <Cpudan80> It is commonly used by windows -- but it actually originated in the nix world IIRC
[22:42] <smanen> oh well...
[22:43] <wols> Cpudan80: but it's a good debugging tool. if you people would read before you opened your ignroant mouths it would be a better place here. the point here is NOT that telnet is insecure
[22:43] <the_padawan> hi all, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a desktop. i can see /dev/sda and running cfdisk i can see 4 partitions. however, these partitions do not have files in /dev. what can i do?
[22:43] <Cpudan80> oh dear
[22:43] <Cpudan80> anyway....
[22:43] <duiu> Is there any additional configuration I have to do for a remote loging on the linux machine if I am attempting to login via XDMCP through Xming on Windows?
[22:43] <smanen> Flannel: i found out the 2222 port is actually open
[22:44] <Cpudan80> duiu: You have to enable it
[22:44] <smanen> Flannel: but ssh still doesnt work
[22:44] <Cpudan80> duiu: System --> Admin --> login screen
[22:44] <Cpudan80> duiu: XDMCP isnt really safe -- you should really use VNC over SSH
[22:44] <smanen> Flannel: i used http://canyouseeme.org/
[22:44] <Virca> hi
[22:44] <Flannel> smanen: The ports open, but not necessarily forwarding properly (or atleast, thats all that test will show you)
[22:45] <wols> Cpudan80: not vnc
[22:45] <Cpudan80> why not?
[22:45] <oinck> is anyone familiar with openvpn?
[22:45] <Virca> hi
[22:45] <wols> cause it sucks and gthere is ssh/X
[22:45] <smanen> Flannel: ok
[22:46] <Cpudan80> wols: Im aware of that
[22:46] <smanen> Flannel: i have also used http://www.pingmyport.com/
[22:46] <Virca> hello
[22:46] <duiu> Cpudan80: I did enable it, it just isn't workign and I was wondering if I missed a step. I can remote login into myself from the linux machine. As for security, it's a local network.
[22:46] <nDuff> oinck, I'm handy with it. I believe there's a #openvpn, btw.
[22:46] <smanen> Flannel: Error: I could not see your service at 83.33.230.74 on port 2222 (TCP)
[22:46] <smanen> Reason: Connection timed out (110).
[22:46] <oinck> nDuff: thank you
[22:46] <Cpudan80> duiu: well you also need a client on the windows box that supports those types of logins... I dont know of one
[22:46] <Cpudan80> Virca: hello
[22:46] <Virca> hi
[22:47] <ty> hello
[22:47] <HalfR> hey, I've just installed "Desktop Effects" through add/remove software on heron, but I cant find it, what menu is it in? or what is it called so i can launch it from the command line?? Thanks
[22:47] <ty> its called Advanced desktop effects
[22:47] <erUSUL> !ccsm | HalfR
[22:47] <ty> or compis config settings manager
[22:47] <HalfR> ty: which menu is it in? I cant see it
[22:48] <erUSUL> HalfR: System>Preferences
[22:48] <ty> system preferences
[22:48] <Nutzebahn> wols: It doesn't play certain songs properly in Wine.
[22:48] <wols> Nutzebahn: ask #winehq or appdb.winehq.com
[22:49] <dekushrub> hey does anyone know how to get dvd menus to work in totem so that way you could watch dvds with episodes like the office season 1?
[22:49] <ty> no
[22:49] <Nutzebahn> Unless I set the sample rate to 48000 Hertz.
[22:49] <dekushrub> ty, does that mean it is impossible
[22:49] <erUSUL> dekushrub: use another player xine-ui or gmplayer
[22:49] <ty> whats impossible?
[22:50] <duiu> dekushrub: apt-get install llivdvdread3 libdvdcss2
[22:50] <duiu> *libdvdread
[22:51] <Virca>  
[22:51] <Virca>  
[22:52] <alinet> so whats new
[22:52] <alinet> ??
[22:52] <Ashtar> yo dudes
[22:52] <Flannel> alinet: #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting, not here, thanks.
[22:52] <alinet> yo bro
[22:53] <duiu> What ports does XDMCP use?
[22:53] <Altreus> I have a USB disk plugged in. I'm running Ubuntu already. Can I install Ubuntu on this USB disk? And how?
[22:54] <duiu> Altreus: www.pendrivelinux.com
[22:54] <kyle__> Hello people.
[22:54] <Altreus> That's ubuntu?
[22:54] <kyle__> Anyone here?
[22:54] <EruditeHermit> Altreus: try unetbootin
[22:54] <kyle__> Ubuntu is dank.
[22:54] <kyle__> Hello, wiz126.
[22:55] <kyle__> Hello, Stefan.
[22:55] <Red13> or DSL I think it will install and run off usb stick
[22:55] <Flannel> kyle__: please stop that
[22:55] <Blacky> hi kyle
[22:55] <Altreus> I have the CD. I just don't want to have to reboot.
[22:55] <kyle__> Reboot what?
[22:55] <Altreus> Red13: It's not a stick, it's a disk.
[22:55] <kyle__> Hello, Blacky.
[22:55] <Red13> oh ok
[22:55] <duiu> Altreus: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/08/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-via-the-live-cd/
[22:56] <kyle__> Anyone know if they can join the DeviantART server?
[22:56] <white_eagle> ok, this is stupid, that STUPID STUPID software update BROKE MY graphics card drivers
[22:56] <white_eagle> and I don't have 3d acceleration, I can't run compiz
[22:56] <kyle__> White_Eagle...Happened to me too, but with my network card.
[22:56] <Altreus> duiu: Step two there involves me rebooting. Can I do it without rebooting?
[22:56] <erUSUL> white_eagle: how did you installed the drivers???
[22:56] <Altreus> I know I can do it with rebooting...
[22:56] <kyle__> I just got a new computer... Compiz works excellent.
[22:56] <kyle__> Altreua > Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[22:57] <kyle__> It'll close your window manager, and your desktop, and bring you to a shell.
[22:57] <white_eagle> erUSUL: I always installed the graphics card drivers manually with downloading the latest version from ati.amd.com and applying them to my system, but now a sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade did SOMETHING BAD to them
[22:57] <white_eagle> I HATE THIS
[22:57] <white_eagle> it also removed sound
[22:57] <white_eagle> the update
[22:57] <kyle__> No shit?
[22:57] <white_eagle> I can't listen to anything
[22:57] <kyle__> Can you revert to a previous state?
[22:57] <white_eagle> HOW
[22:57] <white_eagle> I can't
[22:57] <kyle__> Hrm...
[22:58] <kyle__> Lemme see...
[22:58] <erUSUL> white_eagle: well tha's spected everytime the kernel (or some other core xserver package) is upgraded you have to reinstall the drivers
[22:58] <Altreus> kyle__: was that for me?
[22:58] <white_eagle> erUSUL: I REINSTALLED them
[22:58] <erUSUL> white_eagle: that's what you pay for having the latest
[22:58] <white_eagle> erUSUL: they don't work
[22:58] <kyle__> Altreus: No, it was for White_Eagle.
[22:58] <duiu> Altreus: No idea
[22:58] <Altreus> o ok
[22:58] <white_eagle> erUSUL: it said imporant security updates were available
[22:58] <white_eagle> erUSUL: so important it broke 3d acceleration and sound
[22:59] <kyle__> Well, I can understand living without 3d acceleration, but sound?
[22:59] <kyle__> Hrm... something sounds fishy. What kind of card do you have?
[22:59] <white_eagle> ati xpress 200m (integrated one
[22:59] <kyle__> For your sound?
[23:00] <white_eagle> oh
[23:00] <white_eagle> integrated
[23:00] <white_eagle> i dunno
[23:00] <kyle__> What kind of computer?
[23:00] <erUSUL> white_eagle: as isaid when kernel change driver must be reinstalled and it should work i do it all the time becouse i use custom kernels (2.6.27-rc5 from kernel.org)
[23:00] <kyle__> erUSUL: There's no way I could do that... :)
[23:00] <Syco54645_AAO> hello, i am using a laptop with a ssd so in an effort to preserve the life of it i have made /var/log on tmpfs.  it works fine in ubuntu-generic but not in a custom compile kernel.  at boot time klogd hangs.  what would be going wrong here?
[23:00] <erUSUL> white_eagle: if you are not willing to cope with the cons of using drivers from third parties you should use the ubuntu provided ones
[23:01] <white_eagle> i mean, my system is practically unusable
[23:01] <saypher> #ubuntu-es
[23:01] <erUSUL> white_eagle: is that simple you are running an *unsupported* configuration
[23:01] <white_eagle> except internet, nothing I could do
[23:01] <white_eagle> erUSUL: how unsupported, my graphics card is *supported* by the proprietary ati driver
[23:02] <white_eagle> erUSUL: so it *is* supported
[23:02] <white_eagle> and it *worked* before
[23:02] <alpha232> white_eagle: lol proprietary
[23:02] <alpha232> white_eagle: who supports the proprietary driver
[23:02] <alpha232> white_eagle: if it is proprietary then it's not the ubuntu/deb community
[23:02] <white_eagle> alpha232: yes, but I am not asking about the driver in here
[23:02] <white_eagle> alpha232: an update BROKE IT
[23:02] <Flannel> white_eagle: The 'supported' drivers are the ones in the repos.  The kernels are made for those.  Everytime you upgrade your kernel, you need to reinstall the binary ones from ati.com
[23:02] <alpha232> white_eagle: yes... it did
[23:02] <erUSUL> white_eagle: it is not supported by ubuntu. ubuntu only supports the driver it packages
[23:03] <white_eagle> Flannel: I reinstalled the ones from ati.com
[23:03] <white_eagle> it doesn't work
[23:03] <alpha232> white_eagle: but it's not directly supported so  ubuntu changed and your proprietary driver broke
[23:03] <Flannel> white_eagle: So... either the kernel has a regression, or ati's are broken.
[23:03] <alpha232> white_eagle: face the chance that your OS changed and your proprietary driver didn't
[23:03] <white_eagle> alpha232: and then as everyone said I should reinstall the drivers and it should work
[23:03] <Flannel> white_eagle: File a bug in case of the former.
[23:03] <white_eagle> alpha232: but I reinstalled them, and it doesn't work
[23:03] <alpha232> white_eagle: then it appears your proprietary driver only works under specific conditions
[23:03] <duiu> white_eagle: You're screwed
[23:04] <alpha232> white_eagle: why not recompile your proprietary driver
[23:04] <white_eagle> alpha232: what?
[23:04]  * alpha232 waits ...
[23:04] <alpha232> white_eagle: why not recompile your proprietary driver <replay>
[23:04] <white_eagle> alpha232: how can I recompile the driver, when I don't have the source
[23:04] <steven_> guys, how do I start a secon x server, after hittin ctrl+f1? start --x :1?
[23:04] <alpha232> white_eagle: exactly :) talk to ATI
[23:04] <steven_> or was it startx --:1
[23:05] <Xcerca> just startx
[23:05] <alpha232> white_eagle: everything that ubuntu ships has source and as a community we can fix almost any problem
[23:05] <steven_> xcerca, you sure?
[23:05] <alpha232> white_eagle: your drivers are a sealed casket of code
[23:05] <erUSUL> white_eagle: the nvidia instaler (and i take that the ati one does the same) compiles the kernel module during instalatiiion behind the scenes
[23:06] <duiu> white_eagle: You could try asking on some ati forums...
[23:06] <white_eagle> alpha232: ok, but what I was asking was, is the problem in them, or in the kernel update
[23:06] <Xcerca> i always do Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart though so i haven't had to do that in a awhile , that was it was before i think
[23:06] <erUSUL> white_eagle: if they do not have a precompiled one on its servers
[23:06] <Osse> Whats the best media player w/ support for all files that also plays subtitles. (Not the totem player!)
[23:06] <Flannel> white_eagle: It could be either.
[23:06] <Xcerca> Osse VLC
[23:06] <alpha232> white_eagle: it's a kernel update
[23:06] <steven_> xcerca, i'm not trying to restart the x server. I am trying to run multiple x servers, so that I can have one running my normal apps, and a second one running my full-screen game.
[23:06] <Osse> Xcerca - VLC doesn't allow me to use subtitles.
[23:06] <alpha232> white_eagle: your closed source proprietary drivers are tied to the kernel very very tightly
[23:07] <Osse> Xcerca - Or do you mean with Wine?
[23:07] <duiu> Osse: It depends on what libraries you install, more libraries = more codecs and subtitles.
[23:07] <Osse> duiu - Can I get support with VLC?
[23:07] <white_eagle> ok nevermind I'll ask in #ati
[23:07] <alpha232> white_eagle: but since it's closed source, you can't change them to keep up with any changes in the kernel
[23:07] <Flannel> white_eagle: Try using envyNG
[23:07] <alpha232> white_eagle: simple point is, the kernel changed, your driver can't talk to ATI
[23:07] <Leefmc> Question: It seems i am unable to use multiple commands, such as space+mouse (If i hold space down, my mouse wont move, and i dont have mouse buttons, etc).. Any thoughts on how this can be fixed? Or even whats wrong?
[23:08] <Osse> duiu - VLC subtitle support?
[23:08] <white_eagle> alpha232: and the stupid thing is, I can't recover the previous kernel
[23:08] <alpha232> white_eagle: why not? it should be there
[23:08] <alpha232> white_eagle: unless you did a total upgrade
[23:08] <duiu> Osse: Try enabling the medibuntu respositories (google medibuntu) and do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[23:09] <alpha232> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1207230 2006-07-18 19:27 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386
[23:09] <alpha232> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1206555 2005-10-10 09:16 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386
[23:09] <white_eagle> alpha232: well how total is sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:09] <white_eagle> alpha232: when a kernel update is available
[23:09] <alpha232> white_eagle: ahh
[23:09] <alpha232> white_eagle: you could downgrade, but it's not fun and not simple and depending on how far back you need to go, maybe not at all
[23:09] <duiu> Osse: Yeah, you just have to enable subtitles. Not sure how, I don't use it much.
[23:09] <Osse> duiu - I've tried that =/
[23:10] <Flannel> no need to downgrade, just select the older kernel fromthe GRUB menu
[23:10] <poont> Hello again can anyone tell me if there is an application for a gmail account I think I read about one but cannot find where?
[23:10] <alpha232> white_eagle: you're better off putting pressure on ATI or seeing if they have an updated version of the driver
[23:10] <alpha232> white_eagle: what version are you running now?
[23:10] <Leefmc> Flannel: Have you ever heard of a problem with multiple inputs? Ie, if i hold down a button on my keyboard i can't use my mouse at all. Any clues on what this could be called? (Or how to fix it?)
[23:10] <erUSUL> poont: what kind of application?
[23:10] <duiu> Osse: So if you enabled subtitles and they're not there, then your file does not have subtitles
[23:10] <white_eagle> alpha232: umm, wait
[23:10] <white_eagle> alpha232: _8.522
[23:10] <Flannel> Leefmc: Nope, are these PS2 or USB?
[23:10] <Leefmc> Flannel: USB
[23:10] <Leefmc> Flannel: MX Revolution.. broken by Ubuntu heh
[23:10] <poont> erUSUL, some sort of desktop application worked in the way outlook does?
[23:11] <alpha232> shingouz: i mean kernel version
[23:12] <david010> I'm trying to configure XDMCP, does anyone know what ports and protocols it uses so I can enable it in iptables?
[23:12] <Leefmc> Flannel: It makes any type of gaming impossible, since you couldn't use your mouse and keyboard at the same time heh
[23:12] <Flannel> david010: It uses UDP
[23:13] <balz> I have tangerine installed but half of the songs in my daap stream have no metadata and the track times are listed as "continuous" .  I don't even know where to start...
[23:13] <david010> Flannel: do you know what port?
[23:13] <Leefmc> Flannel: This might fix it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545244
[23:13] <Hexxeh> erUSUL: How long is this gpart thing likely to take on a 200gb drive? It's still going after about 45 mins to an hour?
[23:13] <Leefmc> trying now..
[23:13] <Flannel> david010: nope. but if you just use it, you'll be able to see.
[23:13] <Flannel> !away > Tonik|away
[23:14] <Leefmc> brb restarting x
[23:15] <alpha232> complex question here, is there a way to upgrade/install from a .iso without burning?
[23:15] <erUSUL> Hexxeh: i dunno really but for the description it will scan the entire disk
[23:15] <erUSUL> alpha232: it it is the alternate cd iso yes
[23:15] <Flannel> !nickspam > aitd
[23:15] <steven_> startx -- :1 !
[23:15] <steven_> found it.
[23:16] <Osse> How do I get subtitles working in VLC?
[23:16] <Osse> I find the subtitles, but they ain't showing.
[23:16] <alpha232> erUSUL: it is the server iso  ubuntu-8.04.1-server-i386.iso
[23:16] <Flannel> alpha232: server and alternate are interchangable (well, except one is smaller and has server packages)
[23:16] <Leefmc> Flannel: Worked! :)
[23:16] <david010> Osse: Try VLC's documentation
[23:16] <Flannel> !iso | alpha232
[23:17] <siavasht> hi , i'm experiencing some font issues in ubuntu . specially with web pages which have small fonts. whta should i do ?
[23:17] <alpha232> Flannel: thanks, i'm familiar with how to loop mount
[23:17] <Osse> david010 - I've done pretty much everything, nothing seems to work.
[23:17] <alpha232> Flannel: my quesiton came from the fact that i can't find an install script and i get complaints of version issues..
[23:17] <Flannel> alpha232: you're installing or upgrading?
[23:18] <alpha232> Flannel: well i'm on 6.10 and i want to move to 8.04, but i'm told i can't upgrade
[23:18] <alpha232> Flannel: which totally disappoints me :(
[23:18] <Flannel> alpha232: Correct.  Or at least, not directly.  You can go 7.04 to 7.10 to 8.04
[23:18] <poont> Anyone know anything about setting up the gmail notifier?
[23:18] <Flannel> alpha232: LTS to LTS is the only way to "skip" versions (6.06 to 8.04, and eventually to 10.04, etc)
[23:19] <erUSUL> alpha232: check for the upgrade script on the top level dir of the iso
[23:19] <borisof> would any partition recovery tool work solid for backing up ntfs primary partition
[23:19] <alpha232> Flannel: is there a "minimal path"  ie... a way to only upgrade the critial stuff
[23:19] <alpha232> Flannel: and will i have to reboot after each?
[23:19] <Flannel> alpha232: You will, to get the new kernel.
[23:19] <diamante> alpha232: i have done a sucessful upgrade from 6.10 to 7.10
[23:19] <alpha232> Flannel: just an FYI i only have network access to the system,
[23:20] <alpha232> Flannel: i don't have my nullmodem cable (got shredded) and no cons
[23:20] <diamante> alpha232: upgrading from 7.10 to 8.10 is still buggy, according ubuntu support web site
[23:20] <borisof> how to back up ntfs partition
[23:21] <alpha232> borisof: dd?
[23:21] <Flannel> alpha232: If you want to just reinstall, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server%20and%20network%20installations
[23:21] <obf213> hi. i have this script that converts m4a files to mp3. however i have to be in the directory of the files for it work. i want to use it over all my files. but when i try to pipe it over the files returned from find it says its trying to encoding <stdin>
[23:22] <Jkessler> i just burned a copy of hardy desktop and it freezes while trying to install.  as soon as i select "install" it shows the loading screen, loads about 20% and quits.  any ideas?
[23:22] <Flannel> Jkessler: Check the CD for defects (penultimate boot menu option)
[23:22] <alpha232> Flannel: well i don't want to loose some of my configs :/
[23:22] <M0nk3EEe> Hi all can someone please explain something to me regarding raid 1.  I had my system configured so that it was installed to a raid mirror.  I have unplugged one of the disks booted up and performed a dist-upgrade.  It all works fine.  Now i want to re add my other disk back into the raid mirror.  What will happen because they obviously hold to different sets of data will it somehow just know one half of the mirror is more up to date and cop
[23:22] <Flannel> alpha232: right.  Well, upgrading will work fine just as well, it'll just take longer.  But its certainly doable.
[23:23] <alpha232> Flannel: on the other hand i don't know what i've customised on this box lol
[23:23] <Flannel> alpha232: Also, might I suggest you stick with 8.04 on the server once you get there, and then upgrade straight to 10.04
[23:23] <alpha232> Flannel: well this wouldn't have been an issue if anyone had mentioned that when it goes unsupported that they toss the entire repo down the shitter
[23:24] <rsty> where would hd1,0 be located?
[23:24] <Flannel> rsty: sdb1
[23:24] <Flannel> alpha232: You can get still the repo: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com
[23:24] <rsty> not hda1?
[23:24] <Jkessler> what's the best mode to use to burn ubuntu?  DAO or TAO?
[23:24] <Flannel> rsty: no, that'd be hd0,0
[23:24] <alpha232> Flannel: wth... jesus no one mentioned that
[23:24] <rsty> alright :] thanks
[23:24] <rsty> so if it was windows i would mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /home2???
[23:25] <Flannel> alpha232: Most people don't know about it.  Its *not* supposed to be used for actual systems, since... its horribly out of date (I think the SSL vuln affects Edgy, and I know the DNS patches do)
[23:25] <Flannel> alpha232: Its only available for historic purposes.
[23:25] <alpha232> Flannel: it's not a prod server, it's just a box i screw around with but its headless
[23:25] <Hexxeh> is it normal for testdisk to show two sizes for a drive?
[23:26] <Flannel> alpha232: Also, the EOL repos are kept online for a while after the actual EOL
[23:26] <Hexxeh> I have a 200gb drive and it's showing 203 GB / 189 GB
[23:26] <jrib> alpha232: if it's on the internet you should upgrade anyway
[23:26] <spoke> I have an old Windows hardrive that has a game I'm rather fond of; if I get an external hard drive enclosure will I be able to boot from that through a USB connection and play my game effectively?  Is there a better solution?
[23:26] <Flannel> alpha232: the mirrors generally stop carrying them straight away though.
[23:26] <alpha232> jrib: naw, no direct access to it
[23:26] <M0nk3EEe> anyone know how mdadm knows which disk is stale and which data it can loose?
[23:27] <svish> can someone explain the logic behind having to enter a password to check for updates? wouldnt it be better to enter the password when you click to install the updates?
[23:27] <Flannel> alpha232: but, unsupported means unsupported.  Really, you should have no expectation that the repos would stay online indefiniately
[23:27] <Leefmc> Question: Ever since i changed the "System->Preferences->Appearance" setting with Compiz enabled, my compiz/meta seems to be rather screwed up. Games arent working right, compiz-icon seems to not properly restore all of compiz when enabling it, etc. I already rebooted with no luck.. anyone know anything on this? Im about to purge compiz and restart it.
[23:27] <Syco54645_AAO> hello, on my custom kernel that i have compiled klogd hangs at startup.  how can i diagnose what is wrong?
[23:27] <jrib> svish: your user can't write to where apt stores its cache most likely
[23:28] <spoke> svish: I guess so, but this seems like a minor distinction to me, at least from a functional standpoint
[23:28] <acemo> after just installing a linux server how can i find the ip of it (from a remote computer)?
[23:28] <alpha232> Flannel: it depends on your point of view, in the hardware realm EOL means no new stuff but the old stuff usually stays
[23:28] <Flannel> svish: Also, if the users know which updates haven't been applied, they can figure out what is vulnerable
[23:28] <svish> aha
[23:28] <svish> yea, thats a point I guess...
[23:28] <Flannel> alpha232: software is not hardware.  You can't remove hardware from people's boxes.
[23:28] <alpha232> Flannel: i wouldn't mind updating but i don't want to loose my configs in the meantime as my network config is kinda ummm well :) if it reverts i gotta go out and buy a monitor
[23:28] <Expl0ited> seems my sound with yewtewb videos is broken again.
[23:29] <Flannel> alpha232: Or carry this monitor over to that box temporarily
[23:29] <Hexxeh> would testdisk find the partition within the first minute if it was there?
[23:29] <alpha232> Flannel: i don't have a monitor in the house
[23:29] <Hexxeh> i had a 200gb drive that crashed when vista froze while booting
[23:29] <Hexxeh> i'm trying to rebuild the drive
[23:30] <Flannel> Hexxeh: This really isn't the channel for that.  You should be asking in testdisk channels (or something similar)
[23:30] <Hexxeh> there isn't one
[23:30] <Hexxeh> and i'm using an Ubuntu disc to do all this
[23:31] <alpha232> Flannel: are reboots required between upgrades or if i'm going a-b-c-d can i just apply them ontop of each other and do one reboot at the end?
[23:33] <dr_Willis> How many release upgrades are you going to do anyway?
[23:33] <Flannel> alpha232: I wouldn't, personally.  But if you wanted to try it you could, it isn't recommended.
[23:33] <Flannel> dr_Willis: 6.10 to 8.04
[23:33] <mika_videodev> ubuntu had some fancy way of installing source packages. Was it aptitude install source packagename ? Or do I need to use apt-get instead of aptitude ?
[23:33] <dr_Willis> from LTS to LTS is supposed to be 'directly' possible I thought.
[23:33] <Flannel> dr_Willis: 6.06 is LTS, 6.10 isn't
[23:33] <jrib> !source > mika_videodev
[23:33] <dr_Willis> I would not have high hopes then. :)
[23:34] <jrib> mika_videodev: there's no aptitude equivalent that I know of.  Only apt-get source
[23:34] <Flannel> dr_Willis: He's going 6.10 > 7.04 > 7.10 > 8.04 (so, that'd be three upgrades)
[23:34] <obf213> hello. im trying to modify a bash script to make it recursive. does anyone know how u can tell if something is a folder in bash?
[23:34] <jrib> obf213: try #bash
[23:34] <dr_Willis> obf213,  the 'advanced bash scripting guide' is prboerly worth a read.. theres a way to do that.. but i forget how. :)
[23:34] <dr_Willis> It has examples of abvout anything you want to do.
[23:34] <venger> alpha232, have a serial com cable? set up a getty on ttyS0 as an additional fallback.  thats what i do on  my "headless" server
[23:35] <alpha232> venger: had one, got shredded
[23:35] <venger> alpha232, monoprice.com ;)
[23:35] <alpha232> lol
[23:35] <alpha232> venger: yeah
[23:35] <alpha232> i've heard alot about them
[23:36] <_xyz> is it possible to delete files in a WinXP Home directory in X:\Program files from within a live Ubuntu 8.04 session?
[23:36] <_xyz> it only allows me read permissions at by default
[23:36] <Hexxeh> ntfs-3g
[23:36] <dr_Willis> _xyz,  you must mount the ntfs using the ntfs-3g filesystem to have r/w access
[23:37] <dr_Willis> _xyz,  ntfs filesystem by default is read only
[23:37] <_xyz> alright
[23:40] <alpharesearch> what it the command to start the graphics card and monitor GUI form 7.10?
[23:40] <alpharesearch> it was under Administration but since 8.04 it's gone...
[23:41] <smm289> Is anyone familiar with LabView programming ?
[23:41] <smm289> or at least know what it is ?
[23:41] <MXIIA> What softwares would make http://localhost/ display "It Works!"
[23:41] <Hexxeh> MXIIA: Apache
[23:42] <MXIIA> what else, I know I didn't install apache
[23:42] <MXIIA> /var/www has index.html in it...
[23:42] <lordnoid> could be a dependency
[23:42] <qr_> MXIIA: that's pretty much a sure sign of apache...
[23:42] <rockwellgump> how can find out what network card i have?
[23:42] <MXIIA> Ok...
[23:42] <qr_> MXIIA: ps axu | grep apache
[23:42] <qr_> MXIIA: that'll check if you have an apache instance running
[23:43] <Hexxeh> if Testdisk isn't finding my partition, does that mean things are really screwed?
[23:43] <magnus|msc> whoa
[23:43] <Hexxeh> My Vista install froze whilst loading, so I had to manually reboot it, and then the partition disappeared.
[23:43] <magnus|msc> can anyone tell me which package i need for wlan on eeepc (701) ... ???
[23:44] <magnus|msc> its broken since 8.04 - update ...
[23:44] <Hexxeh> magnus|msc: madwifi, I believe
[23:44] <MXIIA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/42263/ is my result
[23:44] <Hexxeh> Let me find you the wiki page for it magnus|msc, one moment
[23:44] <magnus|msc> ah - thx
[23:45] <magnus|msc> have to drive to the airport in 2 hours -.-
[23:45] <magnus|msc> and just recognized wifi is gone :-O
[23:45] <Hexxeh> Ah, I was wrong, it's ndiswrapper
[23:45] <Hexxeh> http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:configurendiswrapper
[23:45] <Hexxeh> There's the instructions
[23:45] <Caru> can i get help in here?
[23:45] <wickk> Does Daemon Tools work on Ubuntu?
[23:46] <jrib> !mount | wickk
[23:46] <rockwellgump> can someone tell me what to input in terminal to get a list of devices/cards on my system?
[23:46] <jrib> !iso > wickk
[23:46] <Reilwin> Caru, depends. Ask your question and find out :)
[23:46] <wickk> ty
[23:46] <qr_> rockwellgump: sudo lshw | less ... or lspci
[23:46] <jrib> wickk: ignore the first thing ubottu said.  You can mount iso's with the mount command
[23:46] <Hexxeh> If Testdisk can't find my partition, is my disk completely hosed?
[23:46] <wickk> jrib: ok thanks
[23:46] <Caru> Im having trouble installing an ubuntu theme on hardy heron
[23:47] <magnus|msc> Hexxeh, ndiswrapper???
[23:47] <alpha232> hmmm wouldn't it be cool if they made a usb serial cable with a switch that turned it from straight through to null modem
[23:47] <magnus|msc> former it worked without ndiswrapper !!
[23:47] <Hexxeh> magnus|msc: It's the easiest way to do it
[23:47] <Hexxeh> I believe you can get it working via madwifi
[23:47] <spoke> question: I have an old Windows hardrive that has a game I'm rather fond of; if I get an external hard drive enclosure will I be able to boot from that through a USB connection and play my game effectively? Is there a better solution?
[23:47] <torx1704> do anyone have the link to the , Ubuntu help site ?
[23:47] <magnus|msc> i try ...
[23:48] <Caru> Im a linux newb how do I install a theme?
[23:48] <Flannel> torx1704: help.ubuntu.com is the site, and help.ubuntu.com/community/ is the wiki
[23:48] <qr_> spoke: it depends on whether or not your motherboard supports booting from a USB device.
[23:48] <Caru> can someone private message me
[23:48] <jrib> Caru:  what kind of theme?
[23:48] <torx1704> flannel thx it was so i could find the wow site you showed me : )
[23:48] <spoke> qr_: how would I investigate this?
[23:49] <kendall78> Anyone know how to get usb to serial cable to work with a program running on wine?
[23:49] <Caru> I downloaded a folder from the internet with an index.theme file in it and a bunch of folders
[23:49] <Caru> I cant install the index,theme file thogh
[23:49] <qr_> spoke: find out what model of mother board you have (lshw _might_ be able to tell you) and check the manufacturers specs.
[23:49] <jrib> Caru: tell us where you got it
[23:49] <Caru> ok one sec
[23:49] <spoke> ok, thanks qr_
[23:50] <shawn__> do see a list of devices that are hdds is the command fstab ls or somthing like that ?
[23:50] <torx1704> Flammel i doesent open
[23:50] <Caru> http://www.junauza.com/2008/08/10-really-cool-icon-sets-for.html the bottom theme on this page is the one Im trying to install
[23:50] <Flannel> torx1704: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[23:50] <torx1704> i just tryed it it didnt open
[23:50] <Flannel> torx1704: I'm looking at it right now
[23:51] <jrib> Caru: allblack?
[23:51] <Caru> yes that is the one
[23:51] <torx1704> flannel okay thx ill try again
[23:51] <Hexxeh> jrib: Know anything about recovering partitions?
[23:51] <jrib> Hexxeh: I know that I've failed at doing it before :)
[23:51] <Hexxeh> Oh dear :p
[23:51] <Hexxeh> I hosed a Vista install by pushing an overclock too far, and now the partition table for it has disappeared
[23:52] <Hexxeh> I need to rebuild it
[23:52] <jrib> Caru: just copy the ALLBLACK directory into ~/.icons
[23:52] <Caru> the entire ALLBLACK folder????
[23:52] <magnus|msc> hm - madwifi is installed ...
[23:52] <jrib> Caru: yes, so that you have ~/.icons/ALLBLACK
[23:52] <Flannel> Hexxeh: I think its safe to say no one awake in this channel right now knows.  Please stop asking every few minutes.  30 minutes or so is a good guideline for frequency.
[23:53] <dr_Willis> Google would be a good place to search. :)
[23:53] <Caru> ummm lol where is the ~/icons folder
[23:53] <carrioncrow>  
[23:54] <dr_Willis> Caru,  that path would show it would be in the users home directory
[23:54] <dr_Willis> Caru,  ~  [23:54] <svish> is there an easy way to run mac apps in ubuntu? since they are now both unix based, if I have understood correctly....?
[23:54] <jrib> Caru: ~/.icons.  The . is important.  Go to View -> Show Hidden Files first.  Then create it if it does not already exist.  ~ means your HOME
[23:54] <jrib> svish: not really
[23:54] <dr_Willis> svish,  not exactly true.. OS-X is based on a BSD core.. but the GUI part is not common.
[23:55] <dr_Willis> and BSD is Not Linux..
[23:55] <niuq> svish, linux is not unix
[23:55] <svish> dr_Willis, ah ok
[23:55] <svish> niuq, but ubuntu is unix based, isnt it?
[23:55] <svish> or have I missunderstood completly hre...
[23:55] <dr_Willis> svish,  there was some work in that area.. but that was more for people wanting to write an app that would run on both.. not 'letting just any apple apps run on linuix'
[23:56] <Zaiden> How do you open an rpm file in Ubuntu?
[23:56] <dr_Willis> Ubuntu = Linux, and Linux is not UNIX. but its close. :)
[23:56] <svish> aha
[23:56] <jrib> Zaiden: you avoid doing so.  Why do you want to?
[23:56] <lordnoid> its like a clone
[23:56] <dr_Willis> see the Linux wiki page. :)
[23:56] <dr_Willis> Zaiden,  open as in install? or view the conents of?
[23:56] <qr_> Zaiden: you can get the rpm utility from the repos, but it's probably a better idea to find a .deb
[23:56] <Zaiden> I want to test out vmware workstation 6.5 beta, but the only file types they offer to install are either an rpm file or a bundle file
[23:56] <Zaiden> download*
[23:56] <Caru> ok I put the ALLBLACK folder in my .icons folder and I tryed to drag the index.theme file into the theme manger thing and it said it was not a valid theme file
[23:57] <qr_> Zaiden: what's wrong with the bundle file?
[23:57] <jrib> Caru: you don't need to drag anything now.  Just go to "customize" and then to the "icon" tab
[23:57] <Zaiden> Can ubuntu open bundle files? It says I didn't have an application to open it
[23:57] <svish> !defrag
[23:57] <niuq> svish, linux it's a unix like, not exactly linux, FBSD = UNIX / UBUNTU = LINUX     FBSD != LINUX :)
[23:58] <lordnoid> wich means mac apps dont run on linux
[23:58] <niuq> svish, i get confused there heh
[23:58] <Leefmc> Question: Gah, i can't create links in my Applications dropdown. Whenever i do, they go into a "Folder" in the Applications dropdown named "Debian". For example, if i go into the Applications->Games section and add a launcher, it doesn't add it there, but rather it adds it to Applications->Debian->Games.. any help?
[23:58] <Caru> oh cool so is that it??
[23:59] <aventin> http://linkpot.net/behead/
[23:59] <jrib> aventin: why did you paste that?