[07:02] <\sh> neversfelde: pong
[13:11] <JontheEchidna> Riddell, apachelogger: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-release-team&m=121996611510162&w=2
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170162
[13:15] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I know about that
[13:15] <apachelogger> dirk fixed it in SVN and probably already rolled a new tarball
[13:15] <JontheEchidna> cool
[13:15] <apachelogger> I'll exchange the tarballs before uploading
[13:16] <apachelogger> or whenever I have time to
[13:16]  * JontheEchidna has to go now for a few hours
[13:16] <JontheEchidna> carwash
[13:16] <apachelogger> that sounds pretty boring ;-)
[13:16] <JontheEchidna> yeah...
[14:20] <apachelogger> hm, no tonio in sight :S
[15:28] <\sh> apachelogger: do you have contact to the quassel maintainer in debian?
[15:29] <apachelogger> \sh: no, I had at some point with a guy who wanted to abuse my packaging for debian
[15:29] <apachelogger> but we didn't hear anything ever since
[15:31] <\sh> apachelogger: ok...just wanted to make sure that you are not involved ...
[15:31] <apachelogger> \sh: are you starting an affair? :P
[15:32] <\sh> apachelogger: no
[15:32] <\sh> apachelogger: but I would like to see the package in debian what we have now in ubuntu ,-)
[15:33] <apachelogger> hm
[15:33] <apachelogger> mean joke
[15:33] <apachelogger> uhh
[15:33] <apachelogger> must resist
[16:05] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/fedora-root-fix-2.ogg
[16:09] <RainCT> Hi
[16:10] <apachelogger> ahoy RainCT
[16:11] <apachelogger> smarter: is kepas maintained in the kde svn?
[16:11] <RainCT> Does kio-apt only affect Konqueror or also other KDE applications? And would a /usr/share/services/*.protocol file affect the same applications as the ioslave?
[16:12] <apachelogger> RainCT: technically a kio slave can be access from anything which looks like an addressbar
[16:13] <apachelogger> kio-apt though provides the information through html
[16:13] <apachelogger> so it will only work in konqueror
[16:14]  * RainCT is working on a new apturl version and someone provided a .protocol file for it, so he needs to know if I need a "Conflicts: kio-apt" if I add that file to apturl, and if so, if adding a "Provides: kio-apt" too would be goot (so that replacing kio-apt in favour of apturl won't uninstall kubuntu-desktop)
[16:18]  * RainCT looks at apachelogger :)
[16:18] <apachelogger> E: Package kio-apt has no installation candidate
[16:22] <apachelogger> Deleted on 2008-08-28 by Jonathan Riddell (no kde 4 version)
[16:23] <RainCT> Oh, nice. /me wonders why he still has it in it's cache
[16:23] <apachelogger> RainCT: the source didn't get removed
[16:23] <apachelogger> jr is away until wednesday
[16:24] <apachelogger> I'll tell him to remove the source once he is back
[16:24] <RainCT> apachelogger: Alright. Thanks :)
[16:25] <RainCT> btw, does/will packagekit have a KDE version?
[16:26] <apachelogger> RainCT: pretty much so, otherwise it's gonna be the Qt GUI I guess
[16:27] <apachelogger> RainCT: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KPackageKit?content=84745
[16:31] <RainCT> thx
[17:47] <smarter> apachelogger: IIRC, yes
[17:47]  * smarter checks
[17:48] <apachelogger> kdepim is completely broken btw
[17:48] <smarter> w00t
[17:48] <smarter> what's the problem?
[17:48] <apachelogger> dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library libkabcgroupwise.so.4 needed by debian/kdepim-wizards/usr/bin/groupwarewizard (its RPATH is '').
[17:48] <apachelogger> we don't package that file according to not-installed
[17:49] <apachelogger> so I have no clue how to make that anything like it won't mess up debian compatibility
[17:49] <smarter> why would it mess up compatibility?
[17:49] <apachelogger> if I introduce a new package we need to maintain an upgrade path
[17:50] <apachelogger> which is causing unnecessary diff from debian
[17:50] <smarter> add it to the same package that groupwarewizard?
[17:50] <apachelogger> that is kdepim-wizards
[17:50] <smarter> or see if the debian guys have already packaged 4.1.1 in their svn?
[17:51] <apachelogger> they don't
[17:51] <smarter> yay for introducing new lib files in minor releases
[17:51] <apachelogger> it's not new
[17:51] <apachelogger> the linking is just new apparently
[17:52] <apachelogger> I think I will just dump the files in libkdepim4
[17:52] <apachelogger> seems to be the most appropriate package
[17:52] <smarter> yep
[17:53] <smarter> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/network/kepas/
[17:53] <smarter> do  you think it's worth packaging a snapshot?
[17:54] <apachelogger> it is broken right now
[17:54] <smarter> maybe it needs a rebuild?
[17:54] <apachelogger> no
[17:54] <apachelogger> plasma api from 4.0 isn't compatible with 4.1
[17:55] <smarter> hmm, but they probably have good reasons not to release a 0.10/1.0
[17:55] <apachelogger> that is a pointless assumption :P
[17:56] <apachelogger> smarter: package a snapshot and test it
[17:56] <apachelogger> maybe get some others to test as well
[17:56] <apachelogger> if it works somewhat resonable upload it
[17:57] <ScottK> smarter: Did you see my ping about kde-pim changes needed for crypto support?
[17:59] <smarter> ScottK: about adding gnupg, pinentry and others to kmail deps?
[17:59] <ScottK> smarter: Yes.
[17:59] <ScottK> I guess that answers my questions.
[18:00] <smarter> :)
[18:00] <smarter> they were already suggested, I changed that to recommends so they get installed with kmail
[18:00] <ScottK> Not having that would be a regression from Hardy.
[18:00] <smarter> kdepim already build-deps on the appropriate packages
[18:00] <ScottK> Great.
[18:00] <ScottK> Debian can't make them recommends because some of the needed packages are extra while KDE Is optional.
[18:01] <ScottK> So it's a needed divergence (was a spec'ed improvement for Gutsy).
[18:01] <ScottK> Thanks.
[18:01] <smarter> you're welcome ;)
[18:54] <Arby> evening all
[18:58] <jpds> evening Arby
[19:11] <meven> is there someone using kdesvn-build to build kde trunk ?
[19:12] <meven> i would need tips about this tool
[19:17] <smarter> I used it
[19:21] <meven> with my config it seems to fail to checkout kde svn
[19:22] <smarter> it happens sometime
[19:22] <smarter> just let it finish and try again
[19:30] <meven> it stops
[19:31] <meven> apparently it tries to dowload an archive file for each module
[19:31] <jussi01> apachelogger: ping
[19:31] <meven> and doesn't find it
[19:32] <apachelogger> pong
[19:32] <apachelogger> jussi01:
[19:33] <jussi01> apachelogger: have you got a working, updated deb for firefox-qt?
[19:33] <apachelogger> isn't the current one working?
[19:34] <jussi01> apachelogger: sorry, should have mentioned the word, "hardy" in there
[19:34] <jussi01> yep
[19:34] <apachelogger> isn't the current one for hardy working?
[19:34] <jussi01> there is a current hardy one?
[19:35] <apachelogger> of course
[19:35] <jussi01> where?
[19:38] <meven> smarter: i have a solution, checkout the first time manually each modules
[19:39] <jussi01> apachelogger: ^^
[19:39] <apachelogger> in the repo
[19:39]  * apachelogger out
[19:39] <jussi01> which, your ppa?
[19:39] <jussi01> ok
[19:39] <apachelogger> killing kdepim
[20:14] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: updaten-notifier-kde should have taken care of bug 37461, correct?
[20:32] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: yus
[20:33] <JontheEchidna> unfortunately update-notifier is borked. :P
[20:33] <JontheEchidna> meh
[20:34] <JontheEchidna> I'm going to have to use kate until that sonnet but is fixed
[20:45] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: new packaging is already up
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: :D
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> which pacakge was affected>?
[20:46] <apachelogger> libs
[20:47] <JontheEchidna> thansk
[20:47] <JontheEchidna> blargh
[20:47] <jjesse> afternoon :)
[22:01] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: yes (to bug 37461)