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fta_no idea. why doing backports at all ? to avoid security patches ?00:03
asaci dont think that security patches are less work.00:05
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asacactually i'd use backports and security releases as a synomym here00:05
asacbut yeah. when we do something we want to do it more in a security upload way00:06
fta_who is taking care of all security updates in universe -1, -2, .. ?00:08
asacis there anyone?00:11
fta_so if there's none, why should we ?00:11
fta_except for be nice as you said00:11
asacthats the question ;)00:11
fta_being00:11
asacbut i am not sure ... if we should follow that path00:12
asacalso at least browsers are the most exposed thing on the system00:12
asacso security threads are really important for all the users00:12
asacfta_: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn00:13
asacthats the list of security advisories00:14
asacso most likely in universe the proportion is quite similar00:14
asacwhich means that we would be responsible for half of the packages that need security updates00:14
asacs/half of the packages/half of the uploads/00:14
asacof course the number is a bit high00:14
asacjust to show the point00:15
fta_we need a bigger team then. people willing to do old stuff :P00:24
asacyes. i just want to raise awareness that we are also talking about old stuff when talking about new ;)00:39
asacok ...i think security backports are done (well, beta channel state :) ... http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/mozilla-security/1.8.1.17/01:17
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ftayou still have a bunch of in progress in bug 21853401:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 218534 in xulrunner "[Needs Packaging] JavaScript vulnerability in Firefox/Thunderbird/SeaMonkey/Xulrunner before 2.0.0.14/1.1.10/1.8.1.14" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21853401:19
asaci ment backports -> patches ;) ... not packages. but you are right. those should be not forgotten again this time01:22
asacseamonkey and xulrunner that is01:25
Jazzvaasac, bug 25076908:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250769 in xulrunner-1.9 "Firefox opens new popup window when leaving any page with swfdec content" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25076908:30
Jazzvaseems like it's not nspluginwrapper-related bug... (the problem with npviewer popping up)08:30
gnomefreakwell it seems to be my gpg key set up09:45
gnomefreak!info gnupg-agent hardy09:53
ubottugnupg-agent (source: gnupg2): GNU privacy guard - password agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.7-1 (hardy), package size 252 kB, installed size 564 kB09:53
gnomefreak!info gnupg-agent intrepid09:54
ubottugnupg-agent (source: gnupg2): GNU privacy guard - password agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.9-2 (intrepid), package size 281 kB, installed size 628 kB09:54
gnomefreakok i need someone to send me an encryped email to johnvivirito@gmail.com10:15
asacgnomefreak: key id?10:27
gnomefreak0x764D5E1310:27
asacgnomefreak: you should add that mail to the IDs of that key too10:28
asacanyway. send10:28
gnomefreakasac: can firefox use libgcc1 instead of libstdc6++10:29
gnomefreakasac: thanks10:29
asacerr those are no replacements10:29
gnomefreakasac: thats what i thought but needed to make sure10:30
gnomefreakgnupg-agent needs to get fixed10:39
gnomefreakbtw today is a holiday in US so people may or may not show up. im here for a little while heavily testing firegpg so far all works well but only without gnupg-agent10:41
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gnomefreakasac: i send you email to test sending some more this would be 4th email sent using firegpg10:50
* gnomefreak loves when things work :)10:51
gnomefreakhowever you have to have gnupg-agent disabled/removed since there is a bug with passwords+gnupg-agent10:51
gnomefreakfiled bug already10:52
asacgnomefreak: havent got any mail from you10:56
gnomefreaksent it to your ubuntu.com address :(10:57
asacgnomefreak: never send with HTML11:04
asacthat goes to /dev/null11:04
asacmost likely you did through gmail11:04
gnomefreakah i might have but didnt see option to toggle but let me see if its in firegpg preferences11:10
gnomefreakthere is no way to change it and i didnt see any in gmail interface11:11
asacok your mail is in the spam folder11:11
asacappears to be encrypted ... but strange format ;)11:12
asace.g. inline encryption11:12
asacbut should be fine11:12
gnomefreakim going through gmail settings and i think i found a way to use UTF-8 instead of html but it just says "default" "gmail will decide the best format to use"11:15
asacgnomefreak: yeah. i think gmail is hard about keeping your mail in html11:19
gnomefreakyeah from what i see it is11:23
gnomefreakbut it works and that makes me happy ;)11:24
gnomefreakwell i updated my bug on gnupg-agent so maybe someone will look at it since as of now noone has11:25
gnomefreakasac: from what ive seen its safe to push to intrepid the only thing that causes it to not work right seems to be gnupg-agent however it works without it and with it disabled11:33
* gnomefreak not sure what else to test on it but sending=signed, encrypted adn decrypt works and it adds all the buttons that it should in gmail (i dont have any email other than gmail at this time11:35
gnomefreakok im gonna go back to sleep its been a very long morning11:35
gnomefreakworks with 3.1 too :)11:39
gnomefreakok gone for a while11:39
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XioNoXhi !16:18
gandiheya!16:19
gandiXioNoX: howdy?16:19
XioNoXgandi,  ?16:19
gandiXioNoX: how do you do?16:20
XioNoXFine16:20
XioNoXI've finish my first school day16:20
XioNoXbut I have a crappy wifi connexion :(16:20
gandihah16:21
gandiI just landed in Victoria16:21
gandi:)16:21
XioNoXgandi, and you ? what about canada ?16:21
gandilanded yesterday16:21
XioNoXok16:21
gandigoing to look for an apartment today16:21
XioNoXnice16:21
asacgandi: movin?16:21
gandiand invade my new school16:21
gandiasac: yea, I'm on the exchange in Victoria right now :)16:22
asacah ... ok university? what city?16:22
asaccool cool16:22
asacunfortunatly the winter will come any time soon :)16:22
XioNoXLannion :D16:22
asacsorry for that ;)16:22
gandiasac: I hate you now16:23
fta_XioNoX, you're in Lannion or in Rennes ?16:23
gandiwho cares? I hate him now!16:24
asacgandi: what did i do?16:24
asac;)16:24
asacwinter can be great ;)16:24
gandiasac: reminded me about the upcoming winter :D16:25
gandiit's pretty worm here right now16:25
asacwell. at least in hamburg we hardy ever had a real winter. so i would like the experience16:25
asacbut i guess one winter would be enough :)16:25
armin76anyone knows if there's a way in the livecd to not load a module?16:56
armin76asac: ^16:56
asacarmin76: there probably is :)17:30
asacbut i dont know how :(17:31
armin76pfff, bad dev :P17:37
ftahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90689718:49
Volansah ecco19:39
alefterishi, what is the name of the .deb that includes the localization (translations) for firefox 3?19:40
* Volans ops... wrong channel, sorry :)19:41
ftaalefteris, language-pack-fr-base19:43
ftalanguage-pack-fr-base: /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions/langpack-fr@firefox-3.0.ubuntu.com19:43
alefterisfta, looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/all/language-pack-fr-base/filelist, there is no files for firefox19:46
alefterishow can i find the package that this extension gets installed with?19:46
ftahmm, hold on19:51
ftahttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=fr.jar&mode=exactfilename&suite=hardy&arch=any19:51
ftahttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/all/language-pack-gnome-fr-base/filelist19:52
alefterisfta, aha thanks. I have this package installed, put the extension files are not there, that is weird, i should try reinstalling it19:58
ftais /usr/lib/firefox-addons empty ?19:59
alefterisfta, it contains only the en extensions19:59
ftatry a --reinstall of language-pack-gnome-fr-base then20:00
alefterisfta, i reinstalled the package, but the files do not appear yet. tha package manager says that "Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended". but the files should have been copied in their position right?20:07
ftarighy20:07
ftaright20:07
ftado you have the right deb ? 1:8.04+20080415 ?20:08
ftahm, indeed, i don't see it in the deb20:11
ftaalefteris, oh, it's in language-pack-fr20:12
alefterisfta, yes, i have tha right version, i downloaded manualy the deb, extracted and copied over the extension files20:12
alefterisI know, is bad :)20:12
ftatry with language-pack-fr, i just tested on hardy, it's in there20:12
alefterisI restarted firefox and in the addon window the extension has ver. numb 3.0b5 and it says it is not compatible with 3.0.120:13
alefterisblody hell, i should have copied tha files from updates :/20:14
ftatry apt-get install --reinstall language-pack-fr20:17
fta$ grep em:version=  /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions/langpack-fr@firefox-3.0.ubuntu.com/install.rdf20:18
fta               em:version="3.0.1"20:18
alefterisfta, yea!! worked20:20
ftagreat20:21
alefterisfta, i think the problem was that the extensions where in gnome-base at some version and then moved to language-pack-el-base at some later stage.20:21
alefterisis that right?20:21
ftasomething like that yes, it was a hot topic last year. in intrepid, it moved again20:22
alefterisfta, where to this time?20:23
ftalanguage-pack-fr-base apparently20:23
alefterisgoing back and forth..20:24
ftashould be transparent20:24
alefterisfta, thanks a lot for your help :)20:25
alefterisfta, do you know if there is any progress with the spellchecking dict, consolidation?20:26
ftai'm not working on that, sorry.20:26
ftabut for firefox, it should be working just fine20:27
alefterisfta, firefox still has hunspell embeded, yes? I thing there was a plan to plit it out20:27
alefterislike the guys from fedora did20:28
ftasplit it out from what ?20:28
alefterisfrom firefox source code20:28
ftawe use the system one20:29
alefteriscurently it has a version of hunspell integraded, which is a bad thing20:29
ftaas i said, we don't use it, we use the one installed on the system20:30
alefterisfta, are you sure? I dont see any depentensy of firefox for hunspell20:31
ftalsof -p 18663| grep spell20:36
ftafirefox-3 18663  fta  mem    REG        8,1   204416   541758 /usr/lib/libhunspell-1.1.so.0.0.020:36
alefterisfta, you are right, but firefox still can't take advantage of the system installed hunsell dictionaries20:41
ftait should as /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.*/dictionaries is a link to /usr/share/myspell/dicts/20:42
ftahm, right, i have more dicts installed than i can see in ff20:44
alefterisyeap, you have to install an extension from mozilla addons to get spellingchecking in another language20:45
alefteristhe blueprint is at https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/consolidate-spell-checkers20:46
alefterisit says beta, but dont know if there is going to be in intrepid20:47
asacalefteris: you probably need hardy-updates enabled20:48
asacthe latest langpacks are in language-pack-fr20:48
asacbut those are only in hardy-updates20:48
alefterisasac, i have them enebled, I dont know what happened with the particular package20:49
asacalefteris: then reinstall the language-pack-fr and language-pack-fr-base20:51
asacas well20:51
alefterisasac, I did that and solved the problem :)20:51
alefteriswhen i reinstalled language-pack-fr20:51
alefteris-el actually20:52
asacalefteris: makes sense22:36
ftadamn, valgrind is crashing23:02
ftagdb too23:02
ftadoes glib has something to print the stack ?23:08

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