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kartoffelmenschhey! i want to deinstall this crappy keyring app but if i tell synaptics to deinstall it, synaptic says that its going to remove xubuntu-desktop, networkmanager etc as well00:07
kartoffelmensch1. why? and 2. what can i do about it?00:07
spasticteapotMy XFCE installation is messed up.00:34
spasticteapotSeverely so.00:34
theunixgeek_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5702397#post570239700:38
theunixgeek_please!!!00:38
spastic_teapotMy XFCE installation is messed up.00:39
spastic_teapotThe panel fails to load upon boot, and the network manager plugin has disappeared entirely.00:39
spastic_teapotAlso, firefox is stuck in "work offline" mode by default.00:39
spastic_teapotAnyone here?00:48
favrospastic_teapot: you can use alt+F2 then type   xfce4-panel &   to get the panel back00:48
spastic_teapotI did that.00:48
spastic_teapotI'd rather not have to every time I boot, though.00:49
favroand you have a folder ~/.config/xfce4/panel?00:49
spastic_teapotfavro: I am back.01:28
spastic_teapotIn ~/.config/xfce4/panel, there is lots of stuff.01:29
spastic_teapotAnd yet, no panel on boot.01:29
favrospastic_teapot: ther is a panels.xml?01:33
spastic_teapotYep.01:34
spastic_teapotBTW, thanks for help.01:34
jinjanmal01:34
favrospastic_teapot: np - but apart from that I don't know what else to look for...01:34
spastic_teapotHmm.01:36
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sevensunsorry guys i got a problem with amule. When I try do download the server list, it simply crashes. Got amule, amule commons, and alla the stuff on...01:51
spastic_teapotAmule?01:53
sevensunyess01:53
kartoffelmenschwhats the URL of the site where i can paste long texts ?01:54
kartoffelmenschto show ppl my error logs etc ?01:54
kartoffelmenschgot it!01:57
ozkughhttp://i33.tinypic.com/2ut0taf.jpg xubuntu = hotness!02:00
sevensunsorry guys i got a problem with amule. When I try do download the server list, it simply crashes. Got amule, amule commons, and alla the stuff on... can anybody help me??02:00
pleia2sevensun: have you tried asking in #amule?02:01
pleia2also, to debug you might try launching it from a terminal02:02
pleia2open a terminal, type: amule (or whatever the command to launch it is)02:02
pleia2when it crashes it should give you some output in the terminal02:02
sevensunpleia2:nevere heard about it. I'll try, thanx.02:03
phayzcan anyone hint as to how i find the "source" artwork for usplash?  i'm adapting a minimal ubuntu install to be "like" xubuntu and want to have the same custom look from splashy, to xfce splash scree, to wallpaper03:20
phayzummm...please cancel that!  packages.ubuntu.com is a wonder, mainly because i found what i wanted there :)03:28
spastic_teapotDoes anyone know where I might find a log of start-up errors, and more specifically, which one is causing my panels from coming up when I boot?03:32
wols_spastic_teapot: ~/.xsession-errors possibly04:09
jhalstead_I'm looking to connect Thunar to an FTP folder04:16
ozkughhi im having problems i cant brighten my lcd screen with the function keys on my laptop  with xubuntu06:21
deakillohi i really need help07:13
deakillosomething very wrong its going on with my desktop07:13
deakillo its all blue color.. my desktop image disappear and when i try right click.. nothing happens :S07:13
deakillohi08:01
deakillodoes anyone know if xubuntu comes with uvc drivers for webcams by default08:01
deakillojust as ubuntu08:01
deakillohello08:29
deakilloanybody here?08:29
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deakillohello10:35
deakillo i want to add some icons.. but how do i know the terminal code? for example i want to add openoffice word processor.. whats the terminal code, how can i know that? also i want to add appfinder..10:41
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overriderhello, what is a good picture management app? like say, preview for osx? i need a little better than ristretto, best would be the possibility to rotate pics and stuff and to delete directly from the interface. thanks12:43
pleia2overrider: f-spot12:45
pleia2(I'm not familiar with preview, but f-spot is a very very nice app)12:45
overriderpleia2, excellent, thanks;  i will give it a shot right now12:46
kartoffelmenschwhere to deactivate compiz ?13:19
sevensunHello guys, do you got any suggestion to make my internet connection automatically re-connect? And to not always ask about the nm-applet keyring? I need this to leave my pc downloading during the night ;)13:20
kartoffelmenschinstall another network manager :p13:21
sevensunsuch as?13:21
kartoffelmenschjust enter network manager or sth like in synaptics13:21
kartoffelmenschi dont know any else but i also gotta find one because this keyring app really sux13:22
kartoffelmenschdid u find where to deactivate compiz? :f13:22
sevensunI'm afraid that the wifi won't work if I change the network manager, i got eeeXubuntu and I already had to formatt few times13:22
kartoffelmenschsince this is my current prob13:22
kartoffelmenschmh13:22
sevensunactually I don't even know what compiz is :P13:22
kartoffelmensch=)13:23
kartoffelmenschdo u have an eee pc or are u just messing around with this distri on a normal pc ?13:23
sevensunno no I got eeePc 701. that's why13:24
sevensunI also cannot updgrade to xubuntu 8.04, because the eeexubuntu 7.10 has all the fixes I need13:25
kartoffelmenschbut why shouldnt another network manager work? O_o13:25
sevensundonno. also: why shouldnt a13:26
sevensunFONT update make the wifi not working? but it did13:26
sevensunIt's very unstable I think13:26
kartoffelmenschlol13:27
sevensunWell I'll try. but before I'll end all my downloads,so If I'll got to formatt again, I won't loose anything13:27
sevensunkartoffelmensch, are you having problem with amule?13:28
kartoffelmenschno13:33
kartoffelmenschwhy ?13:33
kartoffelmenschi dont even have this app13:33
sevensunwell what do you use instead of it? To download... ehmmm "leagal" (*-)) stuff?13:35
sevensuni got this proble: when I try to get the server list, it crashes down13:36
pleia2sevensun: did you try launching it from a terminal to see if you get errors?13:36
sevensunyeah i did, as you suggested yesterday ;)13:37
pleia2anything?13:37
sevensunbut it looks like the backlog (or what is it's name) is not useful13:37
pleia2can you pastebin it?13:38
pleia2!pastebin13:38
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)13:38
sevensunI should compile another one, in a very complicated way, and I'm unable to13:38
sevensunwhat? explain  please, slowly ;)13:38
pleia2use paste.ubuntu.com to share the errors you are seeing in the terminal when you launch the application from the terminal and it crashes13:39
pleia2so launch the program in the terminal, do what you do to make it crash, then copy everything that showed up in the terminal into the pastebin13:39
sevensunok, but i also did it for the amule forum and13:40
sevensunI've found out that this kind of backlog seems to be not very useful13:41
sevensuncoz it lacks of info *-)13:41
pleia2hmm, that's pretty standard debugging, was anyone in #amule helpful?13:43
sevensunno one, coz nobody answered13:44
pleia2well, unfortunately since their app doesn't do good error reporting you'll be better off joining their channel and lurking until you get help, or keeping on their forums, mailing lists, etc for help13:45
pleia2or you could file a bug report against the package :)13:46
sevensunuh?13:46
pleia2https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amule13:46
sevensunwhat do you mean?13:47
pleia2looks like there are a couple bugs against it for crashing already13:47
pleia2you might be better off asking the amule people for help, not us13:47
pleia2https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amule/+bug/17528413:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 175284 in amule "amule crashes" [Medium,Incomplete]13:47
sevensunyeah but you look more helpful :P13:48
sevensunok I'll browse 4 it13:48
sevensunthnx13:48
* pleia2 has never used amule in her life ;P13:48
sevensunwhat program do you use instead of it?13:49
sevensunor you don't use any?13:49
pleia2I use bittorrent for Ubuntu isos and such13:49
pleia2but don't really do anonymous filesharing beyond that13:49
sevensuni already use azureus13:49
sevensunbut it's just good for recent stuff13:50
kartoffelmenschwhere is the "System -> Settings" button gone? where am i supposed to modify the visual effects now? anyone help ?14:49
Ben_Cskartoffelmensch: application->settings14:51
Ben_Csapplication->settings->settings manager14:52
Myrttikartoffelmensch: newsflash: this is xubuntu14:54
kartoffelmenschben_cs i already looked there, i dont find where to enable/disable visual effects or compiz etc14:55
kartoffelmenschMyrtti: in 7.x the menu was different14:56
kartoffelmenschbut back than u prolly used suse14:56
Myrttiodd, I sorta remember it being like the way it was since 6.0614:56
Myrttianyway14:56
Myrttiand yes, I'm ashamed for that "300" quote14:56
Myrttiexcuse me, my guinea pigs are trying to get airborne again14:56
kartoffelmenschyour getting funnier from line to line14:57
Ben_Cskartoffelmensch: is co,piz installed? xfce has compositor installed by default14:57
kartoffelmenschyeah i mean that compositor14:57
kartoffelmenschnot compiz ^^14:57
kartoffelmenschin 7.x i was able to deactivate it14:58
kartoffelmenschbut now i dont find where the gui's for that are14:58
Ben_Cskartoffelmensch: in settings manager go to Window Manager Tweaks14:58
Ben_Csthere you have the Compositor tab14:59
kartoffelmenschahhhhhhhhhh14:59
kartoffelmenschomg i was so blind!14:59
kartoffelmensch=D14:59
kartoffelmenschthank u!!14:59
Ben_Csyou're welcome :)14:59
deegeehi15:01
Guest71326Hi15:48
Guest71326I'm trying to install xubuntu dapper drake on an old pc that use to run win9515:48
Guest71326but i have never installed linux before so i;m not sure if what i'm doing i'm doing right15:49
Guest71326and from what is happening at boot i think not15:49
vinnlWhat's happening?15:49
Guest71326everytime it boots after the main boot load in enteres a black screen with a cursor flashing and then it freezes15:50
vinnlAnd how long have you waited to see if it might still continue?15:50
Guest71326been there for atleast 20min now15:51
vinnlHmm, that *is* quite long :P15:51
vinnlWhat you could try is using the Alternate Install CD, only problem is that you won't know in advance whether it'll all work15:51
vinnl(And that it's text-based, if you don't like that)15:52
Guest71326also not sure if i set the partitions the right way.  I have 2 HDs 1 60gb 1 20gb and i gave 18gb to root 2 to swap and left the 60GB to /home15:52
Guest71326thats what i'm using15:52
vinnlThat should be fine I guess15:52
vinnlBut have you created those partitions beforehand or during the install process?15:52
Guest71326so i don't have to pre mount anything else15:52
Guest71326like /urs or anything then?15:52
Guest71326during the install process15:53
vinnlpre mount?15:53
vinnlOK, wait a bit, I understood you incorrectly...15:53
vinnlHow did you get to the install process if it freezes during boot?15:53
Guest71326yea when it registered the disks in entered a partition manager so i made those partitions and gave me the options to mount the dirs so i did15:53
Guest71326no the install ran smoothly15:54
Guest71326one i finished and rebooted i get the xubuntu boot logo the barr fills up15:54
Guest71326then it goes to a black screen with a cursor flashing and then it freezes15:54
Guest71326before actualy loading up the os15:54
vinnlAh, it's already installed15:54
Guest71326yea15:55
vinnlEhm, is Xubuntu the only installed OS?15:55
Guest71326yup15:55
Guest71326i erased the partition that had win95 with goparted15:55
vinnlOK, when you're booting up, there's something like "Press <Esc> for boot menu" right?15:56
vinnl(For about three seconds I believe)15:56
vinnl(Or wasn't that there yet with Dapper?15:56
Guest71326no this bios won't give me one time boot option15:56
Guest71326but i can change it in the bios15:56
vinnlNo past the bios15:56
Guest71326it's a REALLY old pc15:56
Guest71326yea u mean like f8 or f1215:56
Guest71326yea it won't do anything15:56
vinnlNo15:56
Guest71326then i duno15:57
Guest71326sry15:57
Guest71326<-- noob15:57
vinnlEhm, perhaps you have it anyway, a menu with a few options, one of which is to boot into failsafe mode15:57
vinnlGuest71326, no it's just hard to explain :P15:57
Guest71326oh yeai think i can do that one15:57
Guest71326let me check15:57
Guest71326yea15:58
Guest71326it gives me15:58
Guest71326ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-38615:58
Guest71326same name but recovery mode15:58
Guest71326and ubuntu, memtest86+15:59
vinnlYep, you could try that I suppose15:59
vinnl(The recovery mode)15:59
Guest71326ok i enetered recovery mode15:59
Guest71326weird16:00
Guest71326it stopped at16:00
Guest71326root@network16:00
vinnlOK, that means it's booted16:00
vinnl(Supposing you named your computer "network")16:00
Guest71326but i havent configured the network on this yet16:00
Guest71326no16:00
vinnlHmm, ok, that's odd16:00
Guest71326it asked be for my network name to set it up16:00
Guest71326i choose set later16:01
Guest71326then it asked me the name anyways16:01
Guest71326so i placed network16:01
Guest71326maybe it was the pc name16:01
Guest71326i guess i can change that later16:01
vinnlYeah16:01
Guest71326so what now16:01
vinnlGood question... :S16:01
Guest71326lol16:01
vinnlI was hoping someone else in this channel would be able to help out now :P16:02
Guest71326guess i'll just take this to my linux fan friends16:02
Guest71326i'm a pc tech but i have never worked with linux before just mac and win16:02
Guest71326so16:02
Guest71326:P16:02
vinnlGood luck then :)16:02
Guest71326thx and have a nice day16:02
vinnlSame to you16:02
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viddhello....i want to set up an install with a / and a /home partition....17:20
viddhow much room is best for the / partion?17:20
Odd-rationalevidd: how big is your disk?17:20
viddjust a standard home-user (no web server etc)17:21
vidd40 gig17:21
Odd-rationale10gb / is about standard...17:21
Odd-rationalesome swap, and the rest to /home17:21
viddwow...what is minimum>?17:21
viddi have no "special needs" for the /home directory17:22
Odd-rationalevidd: for xubuntu, you could probably get away with 2 gb / but then you couldn't installing anything else... :P17:22
vidd* outside the /home directory17:22
viddso 2gb minimum17:23
viddty17:23
Odd-rationalevidd: but i would NOT reccomend 2gb / !!17:24
viddim figuring 3 gb17:24
viddif 2gb is minimum17:24
Odd-rationalevidd: 2 gb is the barest minimum...17:24
Odd-rationale10 is definately reccomended17:25
viddbut that is a quarter of the hard drive....17:25
viddif i have a 160 gb hd, i could see that17:25
Odd-rationalevidd: but in anycase, you can always resize them later...17:25
Odd-rationalevidd: try starting out with 5gb, then. if you run out of space, then boot up the livecd and use gparted to resize the partitons.17:26
viddi suppose i can reserve 5 gb17:27
viddswap should be about twice the ram....right?17:28
Odd-rationalevidd: generally, yes17:28
viddsince i only have 256 ram, would setting swap to 1 gb make any noticable improvement?17:29
Odd-rationaleno, not really...17:29
vidd*note to self...get more ram88817:30
vidd=]17:30
Odd-rationalevidd: if that is your specs, i would reccommend a cli install then add lxde17:31
viddlxde?17:31
vinnl!lxde17:31
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lxde17:31
Odd-rationalehttp://lxde.org17:32
xaer0hello17:32
Odd-rationale!hi | xaer017:32
ubottuxaer0: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!17:32
xaer0well i bet we have some seasoned users in here17:33
viddwe do17:33
xaer0im having some problems... mainly my screensaver isnt activating. been using xubuntu since 6.04 BTW17:33
vinnlxaer0, which version are you using now?17:34
viddhow long has the screen saver had issues?17:34
xaer0im running 8.04 LTS, Compiz, Emerald, and Avant Windows Navagator..17:34
viddah....17:34
xaer0i also using Nvidia restricted drivers.. and nvidia-settings17:34
vidddo you have screen saver turned on in compiz?17:34
vinnlxaer0, what do you get if you run gnome-screensaver in a terminal?17:35
xaer0also i run Compiz-Icon to change on the fly. ive had problems with my Screensaver using every WM17:35
Odd-rationalexaer0: try running "gnome-screensaver-command -l"17:36
viddso even in 6.04 you had screen saver issues?17:36
xaer0no17:36
xaer0just with this 8.04 LTS ive had problems with... this is a new install of Xubuntu.17:36
Odd-rationale8.04 had some problems with gnome-screensaver autostarting...17:36
Odd-rationalei experienced the same...17:37
vinnlxaer0, can you run gnome-screensaver in a terminal window?17:37
xaer0** (gnome-screensaver:8356): WARNING **: screensaver already running in this session17:37
xaer0ah...17:37
Odd-rationalexaer0: try running "gnome-screensaver-command -l"17:37
xaer0WTF?17:37
xaer0ya that "gnome-screensaver-command -l" works and i get a carrot17:38
viddxaer0, do you by chance have multiple users logged on to that machine?17:38
xaer0vidd: how do i find that out?17:39
viddin terminal type who17:39
viddyou should see two entries if only one user is logged in17:40
xaer0xaer0@xaer0:~$ who17:40
xaer0xaer0    tty7         2008-09-01 10:21 (:0)17:40
xaer0xaer0    pts/1        2008-09-01 11:37 (:0.0)17:40
xaer0\17:40
viddso no...only one user17:40
xaer0seems so17:41
vidddid you have to install compiz after xubuntu?17:41
vinnlxaer0, might it be that you disabled it in gnome-screensaver-preferences?17:41
xaer0in system monitor i see gnome-screensaver ... sleeping17:41
viddso kill it....17:42
viddthen call it in terminal17:42
xaer0ya did it17:42
xaer0well killed it and typed "gnome-screensaver" in terminal17:43
viddnow go into your settings and test it17:43
xaer0just use the preview button?17:43
viddyes17:43
xaer0well that has always worked..17:44
xaer0the options i have is start screensaver in 5 min and the check is in the Idle option17:45
viddok...so what is the time-out set for?17:45
vinnlxaer0, and gnome-screensaver-command -l?17:45
xaer0well that command -l only gives me a ">" symbol17:45
xaer0waiting for other commands?17:45
viddxaer0, go into your power management options in screensaver17:46
vinnlThat's odd17:46
xaer0ya im in the Power Managemant.. Sleep is set to never and Display to Sleep is 30Mins17:47
viddthis a laptop or tower?17:47
xaer0PC17:47
xaer0well a tower17:47
viddjust want to make sure its not running on battery mode =]17:48
viddnext step would be to check compiz settings and tell compiz to use gnome-screensaver17:48
xaer0that would be bad..would of check that...17:48
xaer0ya i was thinking compiz would be the problem17:49
viddit wont use battery mode because it has no battery....17:49
viddit is something that only applies to lap/net tops17:49
xaer0were in compiz... do i tell it to use "gnome-screensaver"?17:49
viddyes17:50
xaer0i mean were?17:50
viddjust dont ask me how =P17:50
xaer0were is compiz?17:50
viddit should be in your settings manager....but i have never personally used ity17:51
* vidd prefers his stuff to rn fast...not look pretty17:51
xaer0vidd: same here17:51
xaer0i dont use all those compiz options..17:52
viddone of the compiz option is to disable the screensaver....17:52
viddyou want to make sure that it is set to whatever it should be to use gnome-screensaver17:53
viddbut again....i never installed compiz so i cannot be 100% positive17:53
vinnlHmm, I've looked through Compiz's settings but I can't find it17:54
xaer0i think a lot of compiz stuff in useless17:54
vinnlI do can find the screenshot command, but no screensaver one17:54
xaer0ya vinnl17:54
xaer0i know17:54
xaer0vidd: i only use compiz for emerald...17:54
xaer0that isnt to taxing for xubuntu17:54
viddhave you tried to remove compiz (temporarily) to see if that is the issue?17:55
Ben_Cswhy use compiz at all?!17:55
viddemerald....17:55
vinnlBen_Cs, there are some nice features :)17:55
viddcan you go into the settings for emerald?17:55
vinnlBen_Cs, it's all subjective, no arguing about that :)17:55
xaer0i know emerald.. has no such commands for screensavers17:55
viddyes it does....17:56
viddi have used beryl17:56
viddand with that there was definantly a screensaver option17:56
viddits been over a year...but i do remember that17:56
vinnlvidd, I can't find it, they may have removed it17:56
Ben_Csvinnl: i'm using compositor and that's more than enough :)17:56
vinnlBen_Cs, people could also argue why use a compositor ;-)17:57
xaer0lol17:57
xaer0its like arguing between e17 and gnome17:57
xaer0its all personally preferance..17:57
vinnlxaer0, exactly! :)17:57
viddxaer0, did you install compiz then nvidia driver or the other way around?17:58
xaer0i installed nv then compiz17:58
vinnlxaer0, nv? I thought that couldn't run compiz17:58
xaer0nv drivers :-P17:58
xaer0its no big deal.. if my screen saver is busted. it still goes in power managment mode17:59
vinnlYa that's what I meant17:59
viddhave you tried to remove compiz to see if screensavers work?17:59
xaer0i dont want to have to go threw all of that again. no big deal17:59
xaer0i got my computer were i want it.. i hate having to do a redo18:00
xaer0ive done it like 4 times in the last 3 months.. other distros ive been working with18:00
viddthe live cd takes forever with 256 ram!18:02
xaer0from puppy, suse, fedora, goblin x, mandriva ... im done distro checking :-P the last one i may try maybe gOS18:02
xaer0ya i tried Xubuntu on a p3/350Mhz with 512MB ram... still slow as hell.18:03
xaer0ended up putting puppy linux 3 on it18:04
viddxaer0, it will be fine once the install is done18:04
viddthe install is what takes forever!18:04
xaer0well i know about the install. after the install it still was slow18:05
xaer0well thanks for the help18:05
xaer0im off18:05
viddhave fun18:05
vinnlBye, I'm off too18:05
viddl8r vinnl18:05
viddOdd-rationale, is lxde in the repos? or will i need to download and compile?18:07
Odd-rationalevidd: there is a repo for it. let me get it..18:38
Odd-rationalevidd: http://lxde.org/wiki/Ubuntu18:44
viddOdd-rationale, you want to join #ubuntu-offtopic in case i need any help with this lxde install?18:54
Odd-rationalevidd: actually, you can /join #Odd-rationale19:13
LoneShadow1how do I restart X ? is it /etc/init.d/gdm restart"19:44
LoneShadow1?19:44
crimsunyes.19:45
LoneShadow1thanks19:45
viddLoneShadow1, yes...also ctl+alt+backspace19:45
LoneShadow1something had fallen on the keyboard for a day, think the X is hosed, Its blank on the display, If I press any key, I just get beeps19:46
LoneShadow1I am logged in thru ssh, just tried gdm stop, didnt get rid of Xorg process :(19:46
viddLoneShadow1, the tell it to reboot19:47
viddLoneShadow1, sudo reboot19:47
LoneShadow1wow Kill -9 on the Xorg process is nasty :P, it froze my ssh19:47
LoneShadow1I was trying to avoid reboot19:47
LoneShadow1Xorg was taking 67% cpu cycles, after kill -9 its probably taking 100%19:49
LoneShadow1thanks anyway, will do a hard boot19:50
RichardHHi, I'm having trouble booting hardy heron xubuntu on old hardware. After isolinux loads the kernel I get a blank screen with just the flashing cursor, and nothing else happens.20:21
RichardHI successfully installed ubuntu gutsy gibbon on the same machine yesterday, but gos 3 and mandriva spring have the same problem20:22
RichardHThe hardware is: K6/2-400, 320MB RAM, Riva TNT, don't know what else is significant. The dvd and hard disk appear fine, running memtest+ just now20:25
deakillohello20:44
deakillocan someone help me20:44
Odd-rationale!ask20:44
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)20:44
deakilloOdd-rationale: hello, you remember me? im the guy trying to design the desktop environment20:45
Odd-rationaledeakillo: umm. no i don't remember you... :(20:45
Odd-rationaledeakillo: what DE?20:46
deakilloOdd-rationale: i almost done, i just want to add a couple of more icons, almost every app work just with its name, i mean on the command20:46
deakillobut some does not20:46
deakilloOdd-rationale: xfce20:46
Odd-rationaledeakillo: what are you trying to do?20:47
deakilloOdd-rationale: is there a way to know what commands are using every application?20:47
deakilloOdd-rationale: i want to add open office word20:47
deakilloand app-finder as well20:47
Odd-rationaletry: which command20:47
vinnldeakillo, try using AppFinder for that :P20:47
Odd-rationalee.g. which terminal20:47
deakilloyeah when i try to add a program to the panel20:48
deakilloit ask me for the terminal command for that particular program20:49
Odd-rationaledeakillo: also try this: "xprop | grep WM_CLASS" #20:49
deakilloand i dont now where to check that20:49
Odd-rationaleThis will present you with a crosshair with which you should click on the running program. In the terminal you will see a message like M_CLASS(STRING) = "konsole", "Konsole" from which you can determine the program is konsole.20:49
Odd-rationale#20:49
deakillofor amsn.. well it was amsn lol20:49
deakillofor pidgin.. was pidgin20:49
deakillobut not all work like this20:49
Odd-rationaledeakillo: see above20:49
Odd-rationale"xprop | grep WM_CLASS"20:49
Odd-rationalethen click on the app you want to know the command of20:50
deakilloah20:52
deakillothanks a lot this is very useful20:52
Odd-rationaleit doesn't always give the correct command. but most of the time it will...20:52
deakillofor word processor21:00
deakilloi god this :S21:00
deakilloVCLSalFrame.DocumentWindow, OpenOffice.org 2.421:00
deakillolol21:00
deakilloits not working all together, or each one individual21:01
Odd-rationaledeakillo: try: locate writer21:02
Odd-rationaleor: locate soffice21:02
deakilloin the hidden files  you mean?21:04
deakilloin my home directory?21:04
Odd-rationaledeakillo: in a terminal21:05
deakillolocate writer game me a lot of information21:10
deakilloi wonder which one i should use lol21:10
Odd-rationalei gtg. bl21:10
vidddeakillo, what do you plan to do with the writer?21:11
deakillohomework21:11
deakilloessays21:11
viddo....k.....21:11
viddmousepad (xubuntu equivilent to notepad) will most likely suffice for most of your needs21:12
viddabiword will handle the rest21:12
deakilloyeah21:13
deakillobut i got all openoffice21:13
deakilloyou never know21:13
viddIIRC it can save in M& compatable formats21:13
deakilloi may need powerpoint21:13
viddwith open office, you cant go wrong21:13
deakillowhy?21:14
deakilloahh21:14
deakilloyeah21:14
deakilloi know21:14
viddbut...why load all the bloat if you dont ned it21:14
deakilloi use writer regularity21:14
deakillonot the others, but i want writer in my panel21:15
viddfor ulta-light stuff....i just nano [what im going to name the document] and type21:15
viddcntr+x to save21:15
viddnano is a cli text editor21:16
vinnlMagnetized needle and a steady hand ftw!21:17
viddvinnl, lol21:17
deakillobrb im going to restart21:18
vinnlhttp://xkcd.com/378/ :)21:18
deakillohello21:50
deakilloagain21:50
deakilloi want to try some mouse themes.. do i need to download them on .themes?21:51
deakilloor where?21:51
viddummmm....21:51
viddmouse themes?21:51
deakilloyeah21:51
vinnldeakillo, wait, I wrote it up somewhere21:51
deakillook21:51
vinnldeakillo, to ~/.icons21:51
vinnldeakillo, see http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44-part-2/21:52
vinnl(Scroll down to Cursor theme)21:52
deakillothx21:54
deakillogood site21:54
vinnlThanks, it's mine ;-)21:54
deakillocool21:54
deakilloyour desktop looks like that?21:55
vinnlNo, I just did that for fun, it's in another account :)21:55
vinnl(I also created one to resemble Windows Vista)21:55
deakillomines is looking21:55
deakillolike e17* but i change my mind about the bling bling lol21:56
deakilloso its the same but instead of bling bling all black21:56
Mr_Fixitwakey wakey fuggers22:39
Mr_Fixitjust kidding geez don't everyone jump the gun all at once..22:39
viddsorry Mr_Fixit i dont have "boot" powers...otherwise i would have responded immediately22:41
vidd=]22:41
* vinnl awake :P22:41
Mr_Fixitlol22:42
Mr_Fixiti really screwed me lappy up lol22:42
viddso what issue you have?22:42
Mr_Fixitwell i went from 6.06 to 8.04..22:42
viddok22:42
Mr_Fixitand now my display is wrong res, i can't use any network device and still no sound22:43
vidddid it all work on 6.06?22:43
Mr_Fixitwell not really... the display was right... the network cards only worked in short bursts and no sound22:44
viddwell, sound is easy....22:44
viddadd the volume controler to your panel....22:44
Mr_Fixithow?22:44
viddright-click to select the device,22:44
Mr_Fixiti can't even see the right side of my desktop..22:45
Mr_Fixitor the bottom22:45
viddright click on the panel22:45
viddsame way you add any panel app22:45
vinnlMr_Fixit, ah, I had that problem too22:45
viddvinnl, can you get his display right/ i can then help with sound22:45
Mr_Fixitllol team effort lol..22:46
vinnlHehe22:46
vinnlMr_Fixit, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/242611 , see the comment by Sebastien22:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 242611 in gdm "Only the top left corner of the GDM is shown (dup-of: 216871)" [Low,New]22:46
vinnlThat's what solved it for me22:46
Mr_Fixityea i can't even see the app i just added..22:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 216871 in gdm "gdm uses incorrect resolution" [Medium,Confirmed]22:46
viddyou wouldnt like my "fix"22:46
vinnlHmm, that did apply just to GDM though22:46
Mr_Fixitwhat's gdm?22:47
viddGnome Desktop Manager22:47
vinnlThe application that handles the login screen22:47
vinnl!gdm22:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about gdm22:47
vinnlToo bad22:47
Mr_Fixitoh but i'm using xfce22:47
vinnlMr_Fixit, Xubuntu uses it too22:47
viddwhich in turn uses gdm22:47
Mr_Fixitokies..22:47
vinnlI only had that problem in the login screen, so...22:47
viddvinnl, gdm is more then just the login screen?22:48
vinnlvidd, Xfce doesn't, Xubuntu does ;-)22:48
vinnlvidd, yeah, but it "handles the login screen"22:48
vinnlAt least, I think it does more22:48
viddsince etc/init.d/gdm restart stops and restarts the whole desktop, i would have to say it is what the destop runs on22:49
viddbut anyway....=]22:49
Mr_Fixiti don't seem to have that line that they recomomend commenting??22:51
Mr_Fixitin /etc/X11/Xorg.conf right?22:51
vinnlMr_Fixit, yes22:52
vinnlIt might be a different problem22:52
vinnlHave you set the correct resolution at installation?22:52
Mr_Fixitwas no option for it..22:52
vinnl!display22:53
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto22:53
vinnlPerhaps that last link works22:53
vinnl*helps22:53
* Mr_Fixit tires22:53
Mr_Fixit*tries even lol22:53
viddwas going to say....get some coffee!22:54
vidd=]22:54
viddwakes me up22:54
Mr_Fixiti smoke grass lol22:54
Mr_Fixitkeeps me sane..22:54
viddyou souldn't smoke cow-food22:55
viddthey will get mad and break your apt22:55
vidd=]22:55
vinnlxD22:55
Mr_Fixitlol..22:56
Mr_Fixiti'll share22:56
vidddont matter....everyone knows apt has super-cow powers22:56
vinnl...it's a lesser-known fact that cows have super-apt powers22:57
vinnlsudo apt-get install milk22:57
viddjust type "apt-get moo22:57
* Mr_Fixit tries the line22:58
Mr_Fixitlol22:58
viddsmoke break23:00
* Mr_Fixit shoves the rest of his pack in his mouth and lights up23:01
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viddso your desktop fixed yet?23:09
Mr_Fixitnope..23:09
Mr_Fixitjust restarting to see but i don't think so yet..23:09
Mr_Fixitnope23:10
Mr_Fixittrying other options lol23:10
viddwhat is the app that enables sound?23:12
vinnlalsamixer?23:12
viddalsa-utils23:13
viddbut thanks for pointing me to the right place23:13
vinnl:)23:13
Mr_Fixit<-- throws out his old xorg.conf and does the right one lol23:14
Mr_Fixitoh yea// should change my name to Mr_Linux_Master lol23:19
viddsound dont work on this laptop im working on....23:19
viddso your display working now?23:19
Mr_Fixitit's much much better... poor graphics but right size23:19
vinnl\o/23:20
viddsounds like wrong driver23:20
Mr_Fixitwait.. i just botched it up lol23:20
Mr_Fixitbrb again lol..23:20
Mr_Fixitactually.. i'll keep it for now...23:21
Mr_Fixitit's 800x60023:21
deakillohello23:21
Mr_Fixithey deakillo23:21
viddok Mr_Fixit23:22
viddnow on to sound....23:22
viddyou know how to add a panel app?23:22
deakillohello23:22
deakilloi want to use a silver mouse theme that i just download from xfce-look23:22
deakillowebsite23:22
deakilloand some guy told me i need to download that on .icons23:23
deakillobut is not working this way23:23
vidd\0, deakillo23:23
* vinnl :P23:23
Mr_Fixitthe sound panel app for sound is there23:24
viddright-click and choose "properties"23:24
viddchoose #0 [whatever]23:24
Mr_Fixitokies23:25
viddpress "ok"23:25
viddLEFT-click the icon23:25
Mr_Fixityup23:25
deakillovidd: whats \O23:26
deakillo?23:26
viddmax out "Master", "Master Mono" and "PCM"23:26
vidddeakillo, its *wave*23:26
Mr_Fixityea.. and turned up pc speakers..23:26
Mr_Fixitand external amp is on23:27
deakillovidd: what you mean?23:27
vidddeakillo, it is a greeting of salutations23:27
deakillooh ok23:27
deakilloso any ideas?23:27
deakilloi want to use new mouse theme23:28
viddyou said "hello", i said "\0,"23:28
deakillohehehee23:28
deakillook23:28
vidddeakillo, not my area of expertise23:28
viddMr_Fixit, i thought you said it was a laptop23:28
Mr_Fixityes23:29
viddunplug the junk from the speaker jack....it work now?23:29
Mr_Fixitit never worked lol23:29
Mr_Fixitno junk anywhere..23:29
Mr_Fixitno plug ins23:29
viddnot even in [whatever was there before linuz]?23:30
Mr_Fixitthere was sound in xp yea..23:30
viddits not a toshiba by chance?23:31
Mr_Fixitsh|t i got it lol....23:32
Mr_Fixitlol had to turn off external amp23:32
viddwell....yeah23:32
Mr_Fixitlol..23:32
Mr_Fixitwell news to me lol..23:32
viddi should have explained better23:33
Mr_Fixitso now i got the sound and the screen all i need is a network connection that doesn't burst for 3 seconds and shut off23:33
viddwifi or lan?23:33
Mr_Fixiteither.. both did it..23:33
Mr_Fixitand it's not the network..23:33
viddset static IP for your wifi23:34
viddpreferable outside the router's dhcp range23:34
Mr_Fixitwhat you mean by that?23:35
viddif you have a standard wifi router with an ip gateway address of 1.1....23:35
vidddhcp is usually in the range of 1.101-1.15023:36
viddset your static ip to something like 1.1023:36
Mr_Fixiti don't even have the option to edit a wlan023:36
vidd....23:36
Mr_Fixitor my eth0 for that matter..23:36
viddyou should23:37
Mr_Fixitshould lol yup23:37
Mr_Fixiti'm going to teminal one sec..23:37
viddleft-click on network icon....23:37
viddchoose "Manual configuration"23:37
viddclick "unlock"23:38
viddclick interface23:38
viddclick "properties"23:38
Mr_Fixiton the connections tab i get 2 options.. wired and point to point..23:38
viddset the interface properties23:38
Mr_Fixityea it won't let me do that23:39
Mr_Fixitoh n/m23:39
Mr_Fixiti unchecked the enable roaming23:39
vinnlI'm off, later23:39
viddlater vinnl23:39
Mr_Fixitty vinnl23:39
Mr_Fixitcyaz23:39
Mr_Fixityea ok i set that up..23:41
Mr_Fixitstill no connection though..23:41
viddwhat does lspci say your lan is23:41
viddand what is your gateway IP?23:42
Mr_Fixit192.168.1.123:42
Mr_Fixitand i set the staic to  1023:43
viddcan you ping it?23:43
Mr_Fixit*static23:43
Mr_Fixitnope23:43
Mr_Fixityou want the lspci?23:43
vidddo sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart23:43
viddnot just yet23:44
Mr_Fixitno such process23:44
Mr_Fixithttp://pastebin.com/m49da390c <--lspci23:45
Mr_Fixiti think that was from fluxbuntu though if it makes a difference23:46
Odd-rationaleMr_Fixit: are you trying to do wireless? or wired?23:46
Mr_Fixitboth..23:46
Mr_Fixitideally wireless23:46
viddyour wifi should work out of the box23:47
Odd-rationaleMr_Fixit: are you on fluxbuntu? or xubuntu?23:47
Mr_Fixitxubuntu now... but the lspci was from the flux23:47
Mr_Fixitand no wifi outta the box lol23:47
Odd-rationaleMr_Fixit: when you run iwconfig, which devices are listed?23:48
Odd-rationalelo, eth0, ?23:48
viddthe rtl 8185 is a supported wifi card23:48
Mr_Fixitlmao none23:48
Odd-rationaleMr_Fixit: iwconfig? not ifconfig23:48
Mr_Fixityup.. no wireless extensions in iwconfig23:48
Odd-rationaleno, which devices are listed?23:49
Mr_Fixitifconfig sees the card i think..23:49
Odd-rationaleit will say like: lo   no wireless extensions23:49
Mr_Fixitit says lo and eth0 but no wireless extensions23:49
Odd-rationaleMr_Fixit: ok. so just lo and eth0? no eth1 or wlan0?23:50
Mr_Fixitnope23:50
viddi bet his wifi card is blacklisted23:50
Mr_Fixitit worked on 6.06.. but only in bursts...23:51
Mr_Fixitand bth wired and wireless only in bursts23:51
Odd-rationaleMr_Fixit: would it be possible to pastebin your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file?23:54
Mr_Fixitit'll be a pain in the arse but yea.. let me go get my usb..23:54
Mr_Fixithopefully that works lol23:54
Mr_Fixithttp://pastebin.com/m5830a56923:59
Mr_Fixitwasn't so bad lol23:59

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