[02:28] <Cimi> _MMA_: got something?
[02:39] <_MMA_> Cimi: No. Today is/has been very busy. I will get you something tomorrow.
[02:40] <Cimi> _MMA_: ok dude, I'm going to bed now, see you tomorrow -evening- (I won't be online tomorrow)
[02:40] <Cimi> bye bye and goodnight
[02:41] <_MMA_> Night
[03:07] <CIA-42> acimitan * r54 murrine/ (ChangeLog src/murrine_style.c):
[03:07] <CIA-42> 2008-09-02 Andrea Cimitan <andrea.cimitan@gmail.com>
[03:07] <CIA-42>  * src/murrine_style.c (murrine_style_draw_box):
[03:07] <CIA-42>  Added Clearlooks ability to draw better menuitem separators using
[03:07] <CIA-42>  style properties. Read from Clearlooks gtkrc for more info
[09:28] <Ziroday> kwwii: ping
[10:34] <kwwii> Ziroday: pong
[10:41] <Ziroday> kwwii: about the deviantart thing
[10:41] <Ziroday> been trying to get hold of someone there for the last couple of weeks
[10:41] <Ziroday> but have recieved absolutely zero replies
[10:42] <kwwii> hehe, that is what I thought would happen
[10:42] <Ziroday> at least hoped the would answer my mails :(
[10:42] <kwwii> yeah, that sounds pretty unfriendly to me
[10:42] <Ziroday> so I guess there not interested anymore
[10:42] <kwwii> well, the person who suggested it had nothing to do with deviantart I think
[10:43] <kwwii> so I am unsure if they were ever interested
[10:43] <Ziroday> in the spec they say they had a meeting with them
[10:43] <Ziroday> with a Danielly McKay and Ernie Wisco
[10:44] <kwwii> ahhaaa, I did not know that
[10:44] <Ziroday> http://is.gd/28mw <- in the whiteboard section
[10:46] <kwwii> hrm, looking at that it seems that it was simply dropped
[10:46] <Ziroday> but anyway it doesn't seem to be going anywhere currently, I will keep bugging them but I have a feeling that this spec is dead
[10:46] <Ziroday> unless you have any ideas?
[10:49] <kwwii> to be honest, for intrepid it is almost too late.
[10:50] <kwwii> if it failed because we did not offer prizes someone needs to step up and discuss this with the appropriate person at canonical
[10:50] <kwwii> although that might have been a problem as well, I have no idea who at canonical would be responsible for this
[10:51] <Ziroday> alrighty
[10:51] <Ziroday> well have to go now, dinner
[10:51] <Ziroday> kwwii: you have a great night
[10:51] <kwwii> let's discuss it when you have time, perhaps we can work something out for the next release
[10:52] <Ziroday> kwwii: sure, on irc?
[10:52] <kwwii> either irc or email, whichever is easier for oyu
[10:52] <Ziroday> awesome
[10:52] <Ziroday> g'night
[10:52] <kwwii> night, enjoy your meal
[11:04] <elkbuntu> kwwii, the marketing people would be an appropriate starting point, no?
[11:25] <kwwii> elkbuntu: you would think so, but I get the feeling that they were involved in the last discussions and had no idea what to do
[11:25] <kwwii> UDS would be the perfect time to work it out
[11:26] <elkbuntu> yeah
[16:18] <thorwil> _MMA_: say, that oxygen folder icon you used, is that the "closed" folder?
[16:19] <_MMA_> ﻿thorwil: I believe so.
[16:20] <thorwil> same for the human folder, i suppose
[16:21] <thorwil> oh, but kwwii asked ken v. for closed
[16:21] <_MMA_> Yep
[16:21] <thorwil> 0.o
[16:54] <_MMA_> thorwil: Good post. I'll reply in a min. I'm kinda waiting on some more chat about the name to create the wiki pages. Your ideas will be included on them.
[16:54]  * thorwil nods
[16:55] <_MMA_> The "sphere and a box" thing was something about as well but was unsure how to get across. You said it just fine.
[16:58] <_MMA_> gah *something I though about...
[16:58]  * _MMA_ can't type.
[17:00]  * thorwil think the mailing list is like an animal that must be fed with good stuff constantly so it will not get bored
[17:08] <_MMA_> hahaha
[17:11] <kwwii> no doubt
[17:24] <_MMA_> Ooooo.... Look at Ken V's new post. :P http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/example_mk3.png
[17:25] <kwwii> very nice
[17:35] <zniavre> hello
[17:36] <zniavre> do i have any chance to get small  interest with this kind of theme in artwort current cycle ? http://img28.picoodle.com/data/img28/3/9/2/f_hardy2m_5b6c939.jpg
[17:38] <_MMA_> Current cycle? No. Another no to using a wallpaper we don't have license to use along with what looks to be Vista and OSX icons.
[17:38] <zniavre> artwork *
[17:47] <zniavre> sorry link-failure
[17:48] <zniavre> did you add something i should know?
[17:52] <_MMA_> "﻿zniavre: do i have any chance to get small  interest with this kind of theme in artwort current cycle ? http://img28.picoodle.com/data/img28/3/9/2/f_hardy2m_5b6c939.jpg"
[17:52] <_MMA_> ﻿Current cycle? No. Another no to using a wallpaper we don't have license to use along with what looks to be Vista and OSX icons.
[17:52] <_MMA_> That's it.
[17:53] <zniavre> ok
[17:53] <zniavre> thank you
[17:53] <thorwil> _MMA_: zulu word for breath or something related? :)
[17:53]  * kwwii heads out band practice...bbl
[17:54] <_MMA_> thorwil: Sure. Im open. Can't be too complex though. Something short and memorable.
[17:55] <thorwil> now, do we know someone who speaks it?
[17:56] <thorwil> uh oh
[17:56] <thorwil> umphefumulo
[17:56] <thorwil> http://isizulu.net/
[17:57] <thorwil> umoyana for light wind
[17:57] <thorwil> umoya for air
[17:57] <thorwil> *shrug*
[17:57]  * thorwil -> dinner
[17:59] <_MMA_> :)
[17:59] <_MMA_> umoya ain't bad.
[18:02] <Cimi> it seems that finally we can compile gegl with 16bit dithering... should be really useful for your wallpapers
[18:03] <_MMA_> Cimi: Is CIA-43 your bot?
[18:04] <Cimi> yeah i have added to advice kwwii of the new changes in the code, but i can remove it if you want
[18:04] <_MMA_> Yeah. It's printing all kinds of info I don't really think is relevant to the channel. kwwii wondered as well.
[18:05] <Cimi> it should be relevant since we will have 3-4 themes based to this code
[18:05] <Cimi> btw no problem
[18:06] <_MMA_> Most in here could care less I think. A note to the ML about cool new features from time to time would do. :)
[18:09] <Cimi> [i'm not so happy in involving the community too much...] anyway i will drop that bot in few hours
[18:10] <Cimi> kwwii, in my point of view metacity themes for intrepid need a retouch
[18:11] <Cimi> much more than the gtk themes
[18:11] <_MMA_> Cimi: He's at band practice. And I'll PM you Studio Intrepid theme in a sec.
[18:12] <Cimi> _mma_ i'm on my nintendo ds
[18:12] <Serway> Cimi, what!
[18:12] <_MMA_> Ahh.. hehe. Ok. Lemmie know when you are ready.
[18:13] <Cimi> Serway, ?
[18:13] <Serway> Cimi, you are typing from your ds?
[18:13] <Cimi> yes I am
[18:14] <Serway> thats impressive
[18:17] <Cimi> [19:13] CTCP-> Cimi: VERSION
[18:17] <Cimi> [19:13] -> <Cimi:CTCP> VERSION
[18:17] <Cimi> [19:14] -Cimi- VERSION ClIRC v0.04 by Cluster (running on Nintendo DS)
[18:17] <Cimi> :)
[18:18] <Serway> thats great, might i ask, are you the same cimi as cimitan?
[18:18] <Cimi> Serway, yes
[18:19] <Serway> thats great man, i have been using your themes since they came out
[18:20] <Serway> right now i have been caught on the "glow" train, but i installed murrine-svn last night to see the new rgba improvements, and its really nice aesthetically
[18:20] <DanaG> I still like rounded scrollbars too much to go to Murrine.
[18:21] <Cimi> the problem is that if you run  RGBA withoutthe compiz blur plugin is kinda ugly
[18:21] <Cimi> DanaG, ehehe
[18:21] <Serway> DanaG, i know where you are coming from haha
[18:22] <DanaG> http://picpaste.com/screenshot-orange-nodoka-2.png
[18:23] <_MMA_> Cimi: (email sent)
[18:27] <Cimi> _MMA_, thx
[19:08] <rsc_> hey fellas!
[19:08] <xanax`> hi
[19:10] <rsc_> anything interesting happening here?
[19:10] <rsc_> :)
[19:12] <thorwil> rsc_: sometimes. but for today it might be over ;)
[19:13] <thorwil> aha, rico
[19:15] <thorwil> rsc_: Kenneth is kwwii here and out to a band practice. Cory K. is _MMA_
[19:15] <thorwil> just so you know the most important people here
[19:16] <thorwil> rsc_: oh, and it is the whole point of the name for the new icon theme to remind of oxygen
[19:17] <rsc_> yes rico here
[19:17] <rsc_> oh cool
[19:17] <rsc_> :)
[19:18] <rsc_> just thought it'd be frowned upon by the kde crowd.
[19:19] <thorwil> hmm. maybe the will laugh about their stuff ending up in gnome world, to some degree ;)
[19:19] <thorwil> they, even
[19:20] <rsc_> hah.
[19:20] <thorwil> Kenneth is ok with it, apparently
[19:21] <rsc_> so any interesting developments in the ubuntu artwork front? :)
[19:21] <thorwil> rsc_: you might be surprised by finding a piece of your background in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/IntrepidCountdownBanners?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=grunge-with-cal-icon.jpg
[19:21] <thorwil> from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/IntrepidCountdownBanners
[19:22] <rsc_> ooh, whos that from?
[19:22] <thorwil> rsc_: the new icon theme effort is _the_ interesting development here, currently
[19:22] <rsc_> ah, i'm all for it.
[19:22] <rsc_> personally im not a fan of the orange folders though :)
[19:22] <rsc_> but jesus yeah, the icons need an overhaul.
[19:23] <rsc_> are we sticking to the tango guidelines?
[19:23] <rsc_> tango borders, tango palette, etc?
[19:23] <thorwil> rsc_: it's from a MadsRH. i might have his email adress. already gave him a subtle hint to give credit/reference, but i guess it was too subtle. i wouldn't care, personally, though
[19:24] <rsc_> i wouldn't mind if he didn't credit either
[19:24] <thorwil> rsc_: i also have my problems with the intense orange
[19:25] <thorwil> rsc_: tango is the enemy as far as borders are concerned ;)
[19:25] <thorwil> ugh
[19:30] <_MMA_> thorwil: kwwii has already ran the icon thing past the Oxygen artists. They are fine with it. Hopefully, we can get them on board for our effort. In the end, it's another chance to be artistic. Whatever the DE.
[19:35] <Cimi> _MMA_: you have a new mail
[19:36] <_MMA_> I saw.
[19:42] <_MMA_> Not quite what the screenshot I sent you the link to is about but still neat. Im trying to get the inactive buttons in the windowlist to have no borders.
[19:46] <_MMA_> Cimi: Can I use the gradient the way you've defined it there on the entire panel? Without the need for the .png?
[19:46] <Cimi> _MMA_: as I said, you can
[19:46] <Cimi> but you have to use the pixmap engine
[19:47] <Cimi> _MMA_: I don't think so unfortunately
[19:47] <_MMA_> Ok.
[20:09] <DanaG> I like matte things, like that "oxygen + human" one.
[20:09] <DanaG> I'm currently using Tangerine.