| Volans | newz2000: Hi, I have read the Gerry's email of yesterday and investigated a little on the automation of the translation | 16:17 |
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| newz2000 | Volans: I've only read the email so far | 16:33 |
| Volans | newz2000: sorry I was going out for a while... | 19:00 |
| Volans | I have investigated a litte the automatization process for the actual start page | 19:00 |
| Volans | and I have found at least 2 way to do the thing done | 19:07 |
| newz2000 | hey Volans | 19:08 |
| newz2000 | so what do you think, will we be able to use launchpad for translation? | 19:09 |
| Volans | sure, there is the easiest way (not to beautiful for me) and the better one (little more work) | 19:09 |
| newz2000 | what make the easiest way less beautiful? | 19:10 |
| Volans | the first can be done with html2po and po2html programs, but they put in po file also some strange strings like <strong>text</strong>, etc | 19:10 |
| newz2000 | oh, I see | 19:11 |
| Volans | the second one is to create a single html page with some placeholders and use a script (for example in python) using gettext to put the right text in place of the right placeholder, and do that for all locales | 19:11 |
| newz2000 | that should be simple enough | 19:12 |
| newz2000 | will this work even with paragraph-length text? | 19:12 |
| Volans | sure, just make some attention when creating the po file with string | 19:12 |
| Volans | html2po will generate the default po automatically, in the second case we have to create it manually | 19:13 |
| Volans | but is a one-time work | 19:13 |
| Volans | after all can be done in a very easiest way | 19:13 |
| Volans | ops... I have to go to dinner in a minute... sorry I don't have see the clock | 19:13 |
| newz2000 | no prob | 19:13 |
| newz2000 | enjoy, thanks for the research | 19:14 |
| Volans | I can find you in 40-60 minutes? | 19:14 |
| newz2000 | yes, I'll be here | 19:14 |
| newz2000 | another 4 hours | 19:14 |
| Volans | ok, see you later, sorry :) | 19:14 |
| thorwil | newz2000: hi! any idea when a decision will be made regarding the countdown banners? | 19:27 |
| newz2000 | thorwil: good question, my thinking is that since we've got so many good options that we should offer users multiple choices. | 19:28 |
| newz2000 | I like what you've done, I like all of them actually | 19:28 |
| newz2000 | I have only one suggestion, and that is to use Ubuntu 8.10 instead of "next ubuntu" | 19:28 |
| newz2000 | but otherwise I like all of them | 19:29 |
| thorwil | ok, cool | 19:29 |
| newz2000 | for the hands one, what will happen when it's 22 days out? | 19:29 |
| thorwil | newz2000: that one simply doesn't scale that far ;) | 19:29 |
| newz2000 | well, my favorite of yours is the spiral | 19:30 |
| thorwil | which also has scalability issues ;) | 19:30 |
| newz2000 | that one is more easily handled | 19:30 |
| newz2000 | the dot doesn't need to move every day during the first couple weeks | 19:31 |
| newz2000 | so the dot near the center will start out red and get closer, or the dot on the outside starts red and goes in? | 19:31 |
| thorwil | where i actually think that a countdown earlier than 14 days is a bit silly | 19:31 |
| thorwil | goes in | 19:31 |
| newz2000 | there was some proposed artwork on the art-team list that used a spiral as representation of the ibex horn | 19:32 |
| thorwil | that was my inspiration :) | 19:32 |
| newz2000 | I wondered | 19:32 |
| thorwil | was from Kenneth | 19:32 |
| newz2000 | yeah | 19:33 |
| newz2000 | who is still tight lipped on the final artwork | 19:33 |
| thorwil | seems it's all complicated and hectic | 19:33 |
| newz2000 | Mark can be challenging to work with regarding art, and he's very particular on this specific subject | 19:34 |
| emunkki | back for a while. | 19:35 |
| newz2000 | thorwil: all of your ideas have merit and can go forward. If you were to ask me which I like the best, I like the spiral | 19:35 |
| * newz2000 counts the dots | 19:35 | |
| newz2000 | 16 dots. Hm. | 19:35 |
| newz2000 | so if we start 30 days out... | 19:35 |
| newz2000 | you could start out moving a dot every four days, then three, then two, then one each day for the last 7 days or so | 19:36 |
| newz2000 | I need a piece of paper to work out the pattern, but I think that would work ok | 19:37 |
| newz2000 | thorwil: do you know about the two special slides? | 19:37 |
| thorwil | newz2000: nope | 19:37 |
| newz2000 | they are "coming soon" (as in today) and "its here" | 19:37 |
| newz2000 | there needs to be a "day zero" slide for that time on release day while we're getting everything ready to go | 19:38 |
| newz2000 | then when it releases we want to shout it | 19:38 |
| thorwil | good. plenty of time to tackle that | 19:39 |
| emunkki | 4,4,3,3,3,2,2,1... | 19:39 |
| emunkki | oops, one more 2 | 19:40 |
| thorwil | newz2000: how do you think about offering the hands only 15 or 20 days in advance and the spiral something close to 16 central dot is meant to be zero, btw)? | 19:41 |
| emunkki | 2*4 + 3*3 + 3*2 = 23 days | 19:41 |
| emunkki | oops | 19:41 |
| newz2000 | I don't think I like changing it mid-process | 19:41 |
| emunkki | that doesn't make sense afterall | 19:41 |
| emunkki | well does, if the last dot is 0 ;) | 19:41 |
| newz2000 | thorwil: why don't you work out the last two slides, don't spend a lot of time perfecting your slides yet, I'll draw attention to it to a few canonical folks to see if they have any comments | 19:42 |
| thorwil | newz2000: ok, i will also think about 2-stage approaches for the counting :) | 19:43 |
| newz2000 | go for it | 19:43 |
| qense | hello | 19:55 |
| newz2000 | howdy qense! | 19:55 |
| Volans | newz2000: back (searching for download and code of google chrome ;)) | 19:57 |
| newz2000 | Volans: let me know if you find it | 19:57 |
| newz2000 | on a related note, in intrepid epiphany-webkit is available as a package you can install | 19:57 |
| Volans | newz2000: today only the windows version will be released | 19:58 |
| Volans | for linux: http://gears.google.com/chrome/intl/en/linux.html?hl=en | 19:58 |
| Volans | asac have found the code: http://code.google.com/chromium/ | 19:58 |
| newz2000 | oh, I need to ping him. I keep clicking links and they open opera (but they url doesn't open) | 19:59 |
| newz2000 | no, wait, it's a pidgin prob. not ff | 19:59 |
| Volans | LOL | 19:59 |
| Volans | and jcastro found this: http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/chrome/ | 20:00 |
| newz2000 | I'm not sure I'm on board with the "make web apps look like desktop apps" concept. | 20:01 |
| newz2000 | I'm really ok with web apps looking like web pages | 20:02 |
| newz2000 | though maybe as they start to be more complex there are greater benefits | 20:02 |
| qense | Is here anyone for the Ubuntu Wanted meeting? | 20:07 |
| qense | Or am I the only one that turned up? | 20:07 |
| Volans | newz2000: I have a good and bad news about Google Chrome compatibility and rendering... what do you want first? | 20:29 |
| newz2000 | good | 20:29 |
| Volans | Google Chrome have the same compatibility issues and rendering of another existing browser | 20:30 |
| Volans | the "quite" bad one... that this browser is Safari 3.1 | 20:30 |
| Volans | :) | 20:30 |
| newz2000 | that's the good news? | 20:30 |
| Volans | http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/webmasters.html | 20:30 |
| Volans | newz2000: sorry, I'm playing with the new toy... :) for the start page if you agree on the second option I can start to see and write a simple script that can do the job | 20:50 |
| newz2000 | yes, do it. Lets get a sample and then have our next meeting | 20:50 |
| newz2000 | I want to know if the doc team translators are game | 20:50 |
| Volans | ok, I will start tomorrow and give you feedback on the work | 20:52 |
| newz2000 | Volans: ok, but don't kill yourself | 20:53 |
| newz2000 | beause I want to ensure people will use it before you spend too much time | 20:53 |
| newz2000 | so proof of concept is good | 20:53 |
| Volans | ok | 20:53 |
| Volans | newz2000: see what a long user agent Chrome have: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/0.2.149.27 Safari/525.13 | 21:24 |
| newz2000 | well, at least we can easily distinguish it | 21:25 |
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