[00:00] k looking [00:00] geez... old music... Salt n Peppa "I f*cked your boyfriend" lmfao [00:00] i dont see any conflict =\ [00:01] me either... [00:01] lol... so it's a good screw up then lol [00:01] modprobe rtl8151 should jump-start it [00:01] *8185 [00:02] i should type that? [00:02] yes...just type it right =] [00:02] or can i re-run it? [00:02] and just any where in the terminal or in that folder? [00:03] sudo modprobe ... [00:03] vidd: is there a rtl8185 module? [00:03] module not found [00:03] nope lol [00:03] thought so... [00:03] Mr_Fixit: try rtl8187 [00:04] that worked.. [00:04] Mr_Fixit: what is the output of: dmesg | grep rtl8187 [00:04] and hey thanks you guys for helpin out... means a lot after 9 distros and no luck [00:04] shoulda come here first =] [00:05] some ### usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187 [00:05] Mr_Fixit: did that command return anything? dmesg | grep rtl8187 [00:05] ok [00:05] umm, do iwconfig again [00:05] same thing as before [00:05] Mr_Fixit: see if there is anything other than lo and eth0 [00:05] hmm [00:06] Mr_Fixit: only those two? [00:06] uh huh [00:06] Mr_Fixit: ok. do: sudo rmmod rtl8187 [00:06] I found something here at the bottom... is it of any use?? http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Gateway_MX3225 [00:06] to undo what we just did [00:07] yea done. [00:08] hmmm not gonna work maybe?? [00:08] Mr_Fixit: well, we could try ndiswrapper [00:08] *shudder* [00:08] Mr_Fixit: did the card come with any driver cd? like for windows? [00:08] yea and i need a xp driver for that right?? [00:09] i have an exe file.. [00:09] it's built in lol.. no driver cds [00:09] Mr_Fixit: is that the one that came with the card? [00:09] it's from the gateway website.. [00:09] one sec.. [00:10] http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/search.asp?st=pn¶m=1008829 [00:11] i have the bcm40100 and doo4-009-005 [00:11] on the box in question.. atm [00:12] but they are .exe's [00:12] Mr_Fixit: i doubt those are the ones we need... [00:12] and i don't quite understand the ndiswrapper thing yet lol [00:12] they worked on my xp... [00:12] but ok [00:13] i think i found one... [00:16] um maybe not... [00:17] http://www.majorgeeks.com/Realtek_RTL8187_USB_Wireless_LAN_ME2000XP_d5165.html <-- but it says usb rtl8187 [00:21] got it pretty sure... http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=true&Downloads=true [00:21] crap.. no drivers there?? [00:21] Mr_Fixit: how about http://www.driverstock.com/RealTek-RTL8185-driver-download/18-28-4559/index.html [00:22] is it 85 or 87? [00:22] 85 [00:23] well, at least that is what your lspci says... [00:23] yea lol i was lookin for 87 ffs [00:23] Mr_Fixit: you can double-check by: lspci | grep Ethernet [00:23] it's still an exe though.. [00:23] Mr_Fixit: that's fine [00:23] hi the network manager never remembers the password I put in. How can I get it to remember and stop asking? [00:24] brb [00:24] you mean for the keychain? [00:25] well it asks for my password twice just to get it to connect to the wireless [00:25] whileimhere: http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/02/21/unlock-the-gnome-keyring-upon-login/ [00:25] there is that link....=] [00:26] thanks! [00:26] my sound still isnt working Odd-rationale [00:27] vidd: even after adjust the volume in alsamixer? [00:28] yeah [00:28] vidd: are you sure they are not muted? [00:28] disregard! [00:29] it wasnt the sound....i needed an app to make noise! [00:29] ok so the file is on the desktop.. [00:29] run: speaker-test [00:29] Odd-rationale, i have sound now [00:29] Mr_Fixit: is it an exe? [00:29] yes.. [00:29] and i don't have wine [00:30] Mr_Fixit: can you right-click and select extract here? [00:30] yo [00:30] nope [00:30] ozkugh, yes? [00:30] Mr_Fixit: ok. then you need to install cabextract [00:30] how do i do that from another box? [00:31] Mr_Fixit: from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/cabextract [00:31] download the .deb to usb. then transfer it over to the other machine [00:31] then double-click on the .deb file [00:33] * Mr_Fixit thinks that would have been a much easier option than restarting symantics yesterday with 6.06 [00:33] *restarted downloads at least 200 times lol [00:33] thank god it resumes lol [00:35] so now open the exe?? [00:35] Mr_Fixit: no [00:35] Mr_Fixit: create a new folder and put the exe in it [00:36] yup [00:36] then, in that folder, right-click somewhere in the background and select, open in terminal [00:36] yup [00:36] Mr_Fixit: in the terminal do: cabextract .exe [00:37] says no such file.. [00:37] now says no valid cabs found [00:37] no, replace with the name of the exe you downloaded... [00:38] lol yea.. [00:38] i missed an r [00:38] if i ran it in wine would it install it somewhere i can find? [00:39] Mr_Fixit: possibly... [00:39] Mr_Fixit: but cabextract should work :| [00:39] well if it's a cab inside.. [00:40] it doesn't run in wine.. well it fails.. [00:41] hmm... [00:42] one sec.. [00:42] maybe i d/l'd the wrong thing.. [00:42] it says in huge lettters "download" but i dunno if that's it [00:43] ffs.. lets try that again lol [00:43] * Mr_Fixit sets a six pack down beside him [00:43] i'd offer ya one but beer transfer is horrible on pc's [00:45] ummm their ftp is empty... [00:46] Mr_Fixit: hmm. did you type in the code? [00:46] just now yea lol [00:46] ftp is empty.. [00:46] Mr_Fixit: hmm. yeah, i get that too... :( [00:48] i'm trying an older driver.. maybe i'll get something.. [00:48] Mr_Fixit: hopefully... [00:48] so once i do get it what about ndiswrapper? [00:48] is that already on my sys? [00:48] Mr_Fixit: idk, we'll see... [00:49] but first we need the .sys and .inf file from the exe... [00:49] lol yea [00:55] well maybe i found one... so many dead links.. [00:55] damn google spiders.. [00:56] yea i got it.. [00:56] k :D [00:56] it's got drivers for almost all the win os's [00:56] is it for rtl 8185? [00:57] there is a sys rtl8185 [00:57] *.sys [00:57] after you cabextract it, you mean? [00:57] no b4.. [00:57] ok. [00:57] it's a zip [00:57] just wait. i'll be right back... [00:58] sure.. [01:25] well still here in case ya forgot lol [01:33] Mr_Fixit: k i'm back... [01:33] cool... still here lol [01:34] i don't think i have ndiswrapper on the box [01:35] ndiswrapper-utils-1.9? [01:50] Odd-rationale: still around? [01:50] ndiswrapper [01:50] oops lol wrong kb [01:51] i got an almost fresh xubuntu installation here and if i enter a CD in my tray or plug in my external drive, the CD or USBdrive get mounted and opened twice (at least my compy tries todo so) leading to 2 opened thunar windows showing the content of my CD/USBdrive and one error message showing "X is already mounted or gets already mounted" [01:52] anyone knows help =? [01:52] this wasnt the case in 7.x [01:52] also my fstab is configured well [01:52] Mr_Fixit: yeah, i'l still aroudn... :P [01:53] how do i use the ndiswrapper?? sudo ndiswrapper -i rtl8185.inf? [01:53] and the same happens when plugging my usb drive off or pushing the button on my cdtray to get the disc out ("..is already unmounted .." [01:53] Mr_Fixit: what files where in the zip? was there a .sys file and a .inf file? [01:54] Mr_Fixit: just read the installation note, its a perfect small HOWTO [01:54] in the one directory i have a net8185.inf and a rtl8185.sys [01:54] Mr_Fixit: in the package u downloaded [01:54] sudo ndiswrapper -i net8185 [01:55] yea well kartoffelmensch if ya knew the problem you'd know i don't have access to download from symantics [01:55] Mr_Fixit: ok. in that directory you run: sudo ndiwrapper -i rtl8185.inf [01:55] just read the readme's, these questions are kinda useless \-: [01:55] kartoffelmensch: the first thing i would try is: sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart [01:55] but thanks for your wonderfull help [01:56] Mr_Fixit: where did u get that ndiswrapper package from ?0 [01:56] sourceforge ? [01:56] i have no internet connection.. [01:56] at all.. [01:56] Odd-rationale: what does this command do? :o [01:56] all manually installed packages [01:56] Mr_Fixit: so how did u get this package then ? [01:56] kartoffelmensch: it restarts hal [01:57] Mr_Fixit: do you have ndiswrapper installed? [01:57] yea [01:57] from this box.. [01:57] Mr_Fixit: ok. how about on the other box? [01:57] *yea to you... the second line was for the other guy [01:58] Mr_Fixit: ok try running that command: sudo ndiswrapper -i rtl8185.inf [01:58] just run "sudo ndiswrapper -i net8185" and then "modprobe ndiswrapper" [01:59] u cannot tell me that there werent any readmes in the package u installed the wrapper from [-x [01:59] kartoffelmensch: you are not being much help... no offense but piss off [01:59] cool down, guys... [02:00] what about the .sys? [02:00] omg just enter the fricking commands, whats so hard about that :f [02:00] Mr_Fixit: it needs to be in the same directory as the .ing [02:00] inf [02:01] monkey see monkey do, the only skill u need [02:01] =D [02:01] which went where? [02:01] Mr_Fixit: what went where? [02:01] well kartoffelmensch that's what i'm doing is copying what this nice guy has told me to do.. pretty damn easy for a linux noob huh [02:02] well i ran the ndiswrapper and it installed but what about the sys file now? [02:02] 02:58:39) kartoffelmensch: just run "sudo ndiswrapper -i net8185" and then "modprobe ndiswrapper" [02:02] Mr_Fixit: just leav it... [02:02] nothing [02:02] forget the sys file [02:02] if u just untered the 2 commands that i wrote [02:02] your driver is installed [02:02] no need to whine cry or offend any ppl [02:02] Mr_Fixit: next do: ndiswrapper -l [02:02] youre done [02:02] Mr_Fixit: with sudo [02:03] Mr_Fixit: and report the output... [02:03] present [02:04] Mr_Fixit: alright, now to the step kartoffelmensch was getting to: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper [02:04] Mr_Fixit: then check iwconfig and see if there is more than lo and eth0 [02:04] *fatal error blah blah blah operation not permitted [02:04] sudo modprobe ndiswrapper [02:05] yea now it's in iwconfig [02:05] and thanks [02:05] Mr_Fixit: cool see if you can see connect now... [02:05] kartoffelmensch: btw,did restarting hal help? [02:06] what's a keyring? === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [02:07] Mr_Fixit: it saves you passwd in a keyring so that you can store severall passwds in the keyring. [02:07] okies [02:08] Mr_Fixit: does it work? [02:08] yea wicked.. [02:08] all i need to do now is fix my res again lol [02:08] thanks again... [02:08] btw: in ANY package/tarball u leech are README and INSTALL files which tell you howto setup this thing, so for the future u know that :f [02:08] Mr_Fixit: wait, one more thing. [02:08] and thanks for your input as well kartoffelmensch [02:09] youre welcome [02:09] yea [02:09] Mr_Fixit: do: gksudo gedit /etc/modules [02:09] and yea i am a leech.. so what?? so is everyone else in one way or another.. [02:09] i contribute in other ways.. [02:09] Mr_Fixit: it should open up /etc/modules with a text editor [02:09] Mr_Fixit: got it? [02:10] no.. [02:10] one sec.. [02:10] oh ye.. i don't have gedit [02:10] oh sorry. [02:10] mousepad [02:10] yes but the readmes are written from ppl who really knew what they are talking about and the include troubleshooting. if u read the readmes and install notes u are able to setup apps 3 times faster than asking in a channel [02:11] Mr_Fixit: gksudo mousepad /etc/modules [02:11] yea but i don't always understand that stuff... i'm really new to terminals [02:11] yea it's open [02:11] *nano [02:11] Mr_Fixit: ok. if it is not already there, add this to the end of the file on its own line: ndiswrapper [02:11] i have "fuse and lp" [02:12] yea ok [02:12] Mr_Fixit: then reboot to make sure everything will still work after a reboot. :P [02:12] Mr_Fixit: oh, save and close the file... of course... [02:14] thanks again.. for it all... damn compy finally works FULLY after 9 bloody distros.. [02:14] Mr_Fixit: np. let me know if there is any problems after reboot... [02:14] i gotta go eat... and get to setting this comp up.. [02:14] yea thanks again... [02:14] Mr_Fixit: maybe we'll figure out your resolution next :P [02:15] well i got most of that... i just need to play a little bit.. [02:15] Mr_Fixit: well, you know where to find me. or others for help. [02:16] Odd-rationale: what do you think could be the problem which a HAL restart could solve ? [02:16] regarding the double (un)mount problem ? [02:16] kartoffelmensch: hal usually handles all the autmounting and such [02:16] kartoffelmensch: i'd try restarting the hal daemon first... [02:17] sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart [02:19] nope [02:19] diddnt work [02:19] still openeing 2 thunars when entering a cd [02:20] kartoffelmensch: do you have tw0 thunar daemons running? [02:20] and still 2 windows which popup showing they trey to unmount my CD when i press on the open button on the tray (leading to 1 error message "could now unmount .. is not in the /media/.hal-mtab [02:21] wellll [02:21] no i dont have any thunar proces opened [02:22] kartoffelmensch: i assume the same still happens after a reboot? [02:22] yep [02:22] thats why i doubted the sense of the HAL restart [02:22] =) [02:24] ok id doubt this will work either, but try rm ~/.config/Thunar [02:25] rm -rf ~/.config/Thunar [02:26] see [02:26] the problem isnt thunar [02:26] kartoffelmensch: i found this: http://sidux.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-12277.html [02:26] but that doesn't help much... [02:26] i got a cd in my tray [02:26] i press open [02:27] then 2 small windows pop up [02:27] on the bottom right [02:27] showing "trying to unmount your cd" [02:27] these 2 popups (where only 1 popup should be) are the proof for that there is some daemon or else running [02:27] which does anything twice [02:28] thunar-volman-plugin? [02:28] or 2 daemons of the same kind [02:28] whats that ? [02:28] its an almost fresh xubuntu install [02:28] i diddnt install anything thunar related yet [02:28] but i check, sec [02:29] i still think it is hal related... [02:29] but i gtg. [02:29] bbl [02:29] well thanks [02:29] anyways [02:29] sleep well [02:29] kartoffelmensch: maybe file a bug on launchpad of the xfce bugtracker... [02:31] yea [02:40] anyways kartoffelmensch my original problem was that in 6.06 my network connections would keep dropping.. both eth0 and wlan0.. they would connect for up to 30 secs and drop.. [02:42] after i installed 8.04 nothing worked.. at all.. my screen was shot, no network card and no sound.. [02:43] and after spending a day reading about similar problems i finally came in here to "leech" for help [02:44] but i still have the wifi drops now that it's fixed.. [03:08] Mr_Fixit: maybe its your router/wifi card ? [03:09] and not the drivers [03:12] yea but would it do it to both the wifi and lan?? [03:12] it's not the network [03:20] laptop or desk? [03:20] laptop [03:20] aha. [03:21] integrated networking chip... [03:21] would cause the issue to be with both devices...is the wifi integrated or the card? [03:21] is it fixable?? [03:21] I know there are enumerator issues with a lot of laptops, inability to use wifi and lan at the same time [03:21] it's all integrated... no external devices [03:21] so if linux is attemping to power/use them both at the same time may be the problem [03:21] did you try disabling one or the other? [03:22] well the lan is not recognized atm at all. [03:22] Mr_Fixit: Is you wirelss inside the laptop a mini-pci card or onboard? [03:22] inside.. no card [03:22] lol, ok, I know, it's INSIDE the laptop... [03:22] but...usually there is a mini pci under a device plate where they stick your card, if not its on board\ [03:22] what chipset/laptop model? [03:22] lol i don't know much else then you can see the specs page if you want [03:23] http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Q106/MagicLC/1008829sp2.shtml [03:24] i have the pastebin for the lspci if you wanna look in there too [03:24] oh a gateway...can't say I'm hopful :P looking [03:24] sure [03:24] ah yes, integrated wireless ethernet [03:24] wireless / ethernet [03:25] http://pastebin.com/m49da390c [03:25] so at least that explains the drops on both.. [03:26] Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller [03:26] google that about X/Ubuntu [03:27] or just RTL-8185 Xubuntu / Ubuntu and see what you find [03:27] yea i got a fair bit... [03:27] that'll at least get me goin. [03:27] thanks [03:30] Hi favro [03:31] hi ! [03:36] (I switched back to my old freenode nick...after almost 3 years it was still registerd to me :) [03:36] registered* [03:37] <-RakZer0 [03:38] yea i noticed they don't drop them much... [03:38] i seen one that was 5 yrs since registration and almost 4 yrs since use [03:40] what do you mean? [03:40] well the nick hadn't been identifies in almost 4 years.. [03:40] *identified [03:46] ah [03:46] thought you were talking about the realtek chip or your laptop still.. lol [03:47] lol [03:47] Open the bottom of your laptop and see if you have a mini pci slot [03:47] I would just buy a $15 broadcom based card or something [03:48] well i dunno what the part looks like but yea that could be a solutionj [03:48] if you can disable the others in the bios I would reccomned that also... [03:49] there will be plates on the boot that comeoff with one or two screws to acces memory/hard drive/etc [03:49] maybe be a minipci in there...you never know [03:49] yea i've been in there but i dunno if the one is a wifi card or not.. [03:49] however you would need to extend or locate your wifi antenna cables inside and reconnect them.. [03:49] it's not ram or hd [03:50] could also be a modem [03:50] well i don't need that either.. [03:50] how would i know?? [03:54] yea that's the wifi card in question.. [03:55] that's a mini pci slot??? [03:56] and can i put any other card in there? [03:56] any other mini pci I suppose... [03:56] not sure what [03:56] does it have a black/white little wire connected to it? [03:56] rather, 2 wires [03:56] yup [03:57] on gold metal plugs [03:57] b & w [03:57] yea and the rtl8185 # on it [03:57] can you disable the ethernet in the bios? [03:57] dunno if it was enabled in the first place.. [03:57] i'll go check.. [03:59] ok so onchip lan device is disabled [04:00] rf power control on?? [04:00] n/m [04:06] yea same problem... [04:06] it still drops.. [04:06] so any new min pci wifi integrated card? [04:10] hm [04:10] well, I would try it, they're cheap for a good generic broadcom [04:10] however it may be the motherboard, but for $15 it can't hurt [04:11] yea well i've rought it out of the grave this far... 15 bucks can't hurt.. [04:11] *brought [04:11] heh [04:11] its worth it for a working laptop imo.. [04:12] dual boot microxp or something... [04:12] nah... it was abused too much by xp lol [04:13] heh...well, thats why I say micro...remove everything, including all non-essential drivers, services, windows file protection (SFC, DEP etc) [04:13] sometimes its nic to have a ~75mb windows shell.. [04:14] yea.. i don't know enough to do all that lol.. [04:14] i'm a learner in progress.. [04:15] ah... [04:15] check out nlite if you feel the need.. [04:15]