[00:00] <Odd-rationale> k looking
[00:00] <Mr_Fixit> geez... old music... Salt n Peppa "I f*cked your boyfriend" lmfao
[00:00] <vidd> i dont see any conflict =\
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> me either...
[00:01] <Mr_Fixit> lol... so it's a good screw up then lol
[00:01] <vidd> modprobe rtl8151 should jump-start it
[00:01] <vidd> *8185
[00:02] <Mr_Fixit> i should type that?
[00:02] <vidd> yes...just type it right =]
[00:02] <Mr_Fixit> or can i re-run it?
[00:02] <Mr_Fixit> and just any where in the terminal or in that folder?
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> sudo modprobe ...
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> vidd: is there a rtl8185 module?
[00:03] <Mr_Fixit> module not found
[00:03] <Mr_Fixit> nope lol
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> thought so...
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: try rtl8187
[00:04] <Mr_Fixit> that worked..
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: what is the output of: dmesg | grep rtl8187
[00:04] <Mr_Fixit> and hey thanks you guys for helpin out... means a lot after 9 distros and no luck
[00:04] <vidd> shoulda come here first =]
[00:05] <Mr_Fixit> some ### usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187
[00:05] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: did that command return anything? dmesg | grep rtl8187
[00:05] <Odd-rationale> ok
[00:05] <Odd-rationale> umm, do iwconfig again
[00:05] <Mr_Fixit> same thing as before
[00:05] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: see if there is anything other than lo and eth0
[00:05] <Odd-rationale> hmm
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: only those two?
[00:06] <Mr_Fixit> uh huh
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: ok. do: sudo rmmod rtl8187
[00:06] <Mr_Fixit> I found something here at the bottom... is it of any use?? http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Gateway_MX3225
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> to undo what we just did
[00:07] <Mr_Fixit> yea done.
[00:08] <Mr_Fixit> hmmm not gonna work maybe??
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: well, we could try ndiswrapper
[00:08] <vidd> *shudder*
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: did the card come with any driver cd? like for windows?
[00:08] <Mr_Fixit> yea and i need a xp driver for that right??
[00:09] <Mr_Fixit> i have an exe file..
[00:09] <Mr_Fixit> it's built in lol.. no driver cds
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: is that the one that came with the card?
[00:09] <Mr_Fixit> it's from the gateway website..
[00:09] <Mr_Fixit> one sec..
[00:10] <Mr_Fixit> http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/search.asp?st=pn&param=1008829
[00:11] <Mr_Fixit> i have the bcm40100 and doo4-009-005
[00:11] <Mr_Fixit> on the box in question.. atm
[00:12] <Mr_Fixit> but they are .exe's
[00:12] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: i doubt those are the ones we need...
[00:12] <Mr_Fixit> and i don't quite understand the ndiswrapper thing yet lol
[00:12] <Mr_Fixit> they worked on my xp...
[00:12] <Mr_Fixit> but ok
[00:13] <Odd-rationale> i think i found one...
[00:16] <Odd-rationale> um maybe not...
[00:17] <Mr_Fixit> http://www.majorgeeks.com/Realtek_RTL8187_USB_Wireless_LAN_ME2000XP_d5165.html   <-- but it says usb rtl8187
[00:21] <Mr_Fixit> got it pretty sure... http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=true&Downloads=true
[00:21] <Mr_Fixit> crap.. no drivers there??
[00:21] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: how about http://www.driverstock.com/RealTek-RTL8185-driver-download/18-28-4559/index.html
[00:22] <Mr_Fixit> is it 85 or 87?
[00:22] <Odd-rationale> 85
[00:23] <Odd-rationale> well, at least that is what your lspci says...
[00:23] <Mr_Fixit> yea lol i was lookin for 87 ffs
[00:23] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: you can double-check by: lspci | grep Ethernet
[00:23] <Mr_Fixit> it's still an exe though..
[00:23] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: that's fine
[00:23] <whileimhere> hi the network manager never remembers the password I put in. How can I get it to remember and stop asking?
[00:24] <Mr_Fixit> brb
[00:24] <vidd> you mean for the keychain?
[00:25] <whileimhere> well it asks for my password twice just to get it to connect to the wireless
[00:25] <Odd-rationale> whileimhere: http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/02/21/unlock-the-gnome-keyring-upon-login/
[00:25] <vidd> there is that link....=]
[00:26] <whileimhere> thanks!
[00:26] <vidd> my sound still isnt working Odd-rationale
[00:27] <Odd-rationale> vidd: even after adjust the volume in alsamixer?
[00:28] <vidd> yeah
[00:28] <Odd-rationale> vidd: are you sure they are not muted?
[00:28] <vidd> disregard!
[00:29] <vidd> it wasnt the sound....i needed an app to make noise!
[00:29] <Mr_Fixit> ok so the file is on the desktop..
[00:29] <Odd-rationale> run: speaker-test
[00:29] <vidd> Odd-rationale, i have sound now
[00:29] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: is it an exe?
[00:29] <Mr_Fixit> yes..
[00:29] <Mr_Fixit> and i don't have wine
[00:30] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: can you right-click and select extract here?
[00:30] <ozkugh> yo
[00:30] <Mr_Fixit> nope
[00:30] <vidd> ozkugh, yes?
[00:30] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: ok. then you need to install cabextract
[00:30] <Mr_Fixit> how do i do that from another box?
[00:31] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/cabextract
[00:31] <Odd-rationale> download the .deb to usb. then transfer it over to the other machine
[00:31] <Odd-rationale> then double-click on the .deb file
[00:33]  * Mr_Fixit thinks that would have been a much easier option than restarting symantics yesterday with 6.06
[00:33] <Mr_Fixit> *restarted downloads at least 200 times lol
[00:33] <Mr_Fixit> thank god it resumes lol
[00:35] <Mr_Fixit> so now open the exe??
[00:35] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: no
[00:35] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: create a new folder and put the exe in it
[00:36] <Mr_Fixit> yup
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> then, in that folder, right-click somewhere in the background and select, open in terminal
[00:36] <Mr_Fixit> yup
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: in the terminal do: cabextract <file>.exe
[00:37] <Mr_Fixit> says no such file..
[00:37] <Mr_Fixit> now says no valid cabs found
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> no, replace <file> with the name of the exe you downloaded...
[00:38] <Mr_Fixit> lol yea..
[00:38] <Mr_Fixit> i missed an r
[00:38] <Mr_Fixit> if i ran it in wine would it install it somewhere i can find?
[00:39] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: possibly...
[00:39] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: but cabextract should work :|
[00:39] <Mr_Fixit> well if it's a cab inside..
[00:40] <Mr_Fixit> it doesn't run in wine.. well it fails..
[00:41] <Odd-rationale> hmm...
[00:42] <Mr_Fixit> one sec..
[00:42] <Mr_Fixit> maybe i d/l'd the wrong thing..
[00:42] <Mr_Fixit> it says in huge lettters "download" but i dunno if that's it
[00:43] <Mr_Fixit> ffs.. lets try that again lol
[00:43]  * Mr_Fixit sets a six pack down beside him
[00:43] <Mr_Fixit> i'd offer ya one but beer transfer is horrible on pc's
[00:45] <Mr_Fixit> ummm their ftp is empty...
[00:46] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: hmm. did you type in the code?
[00:46] <Mr_Fixit> just now yea lol
[00:46] <Mr_Fixit> ftp is empty..
[00:46] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: hmm. yeah, i get that too... :(
[00:48] <Mr_Fixit> i'm trying an older driver.. maybe i'll get something..
[00:48] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: hopefully...
[00:48] <Mr_Fixit> so once i do get it what about ndiswrapper?
[00:48] <Mr_Fixit> is that already on my sys?
[00:48] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: idk, we'll see...
[00:49] <Odd-rationale> but first we need the .sys and .inf file from the exe...
[00:49] <Mr_Fixit> lol yea
[00:55] <Mr_Fixit> well maybe i found one... so many dead links..
[00:55] <Mr_Fixit> damn google spiders..
[00:56] <Mr_Fixit> yea i got it..
[00:56] <Odd-rationale> k :D
[00:56] <Mr_Fixit> it's got drivers for almost all the win os's
[00:56] <Odd-rationale> is it for rtl 8185?
[00:57] <Mr_Fixit> there is a sys rtl8185
[00:57] <Mr_Fixit> *.sys
[00:57] <Odd-rationale> after you cabextract it, you mean?
[00:57] <Mr_Fixit> no b4..
[00:57] <Odd-rationale> ok.
[00:57] <Mr_Fixit> it's a zip
[00:57] <Odd-rationale> just wait. i'll be right back...
[00:58] <Mr_Fixit> sure..
[01:25] <Mr_Fixit> well still here in case ya forgot lol
[01:33] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: k i'm back...
[01:33] <Mr_Fixit> cool... still here lol
[01:34] <Mr_Fixit> i don't think i have ndiswrapper on the box
[01:35] <Mr_Fixit> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9?
[01:50] <Mr_Fixit> Odd-rationale:  still around?
[01:50] <Mr_Fixit> ndiswrapper
[01:50] <Mr_Fixit> oops lol wrong kb
[01:51] <kartoffelmensch> i got an almost fresh xubuntu installation here and if i enter a CD in my tray or plug in my external drive, the CD or USBdrive get mounted and opened twice (at least my compy tries todo so) leading to 2 opened thunar windows showing the content of my CD/USBdrive and one error message showing "X is already mounted or gets already mounted"
[01:52] <kartoffelmensch> anyone knows help =?
[01:52] <kartoffelmensch> this wasnt the case in 7.x
[01:52] <kartoffelmensch> also my fstab is configured well
[01:52] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: yeah, i'l still aroudn... :P
[01:53] <Mr_Fixit> how do i use the ndiswrapper?? sudo ndiswrapper -i rtl8185.inf?
[01:53] <kartoffelmensch> and the same happens when plugging my usb drive off or pushing the button on my cdtray to get the disc out ("..is already unmounted .."
[01:53] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: what files where in the zip? was there a .sys file and a .inf file?
[01:54] <kartoffelmensch> Mr_Fixit: just read the installation note, its a perfect small HOWTO
[01:54] <Mr_Fixit> in the one directory i have a net8185.inf and a rtl8185.sys
[01:54] <kartoffelmensch> Mr_Fixit: in the package u downloaded
[01:54] <kartoffelmensch> sudo ndiswrapper -i net8185
[01:55] <Mr_Fixit> yea well kartoffelmensch if ya knew the problem you'd know i don't have access to download from symantics
[01:55] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: ok. in that directory you run: sudo ndiwrapper -i rtl8185.inf
[01:55] <kartoffelmensch> just read the readme's, these questions are kinda useless \-:
[01:55] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: the first thing i would try is: sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[01:55] <Mr_Fixit> but thanks for your wonderfull help
[01:56] <kartoffelmensch> Mr_Fixit: where did u get that ndiswrapper package from ?0
[01:56] <kartoffelmensch> sourceforge ?
[01:56] <Mr_Fixit> i have no internet connection..
[01:56] <Mr_Fixit> at all..
[01:56] <kartoffelmensch> Odd-rationale: what does this command do? :o
[01:56] <Mr_Fixit> all manually installed packages
[01:56] <kartoffelmensch> Mr_Fixit: so how did u get this package then ?
[01:56] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: it restarts hal
[01:57] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: do you have ndiswrapper installed?
[01:57] <Mr_Fixit> yea
[01:57] <Mr_Fixit> from this box..
[01:57] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: ok. how about on the other box?
[01:57] <Mr_Fixit> *yea to you... the second line was for the other guy
[01:58] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: ok try running that command: sudo ndiswrapper -i rtl8185.inf
[01:58] <kartoffelmensch> just run "﻿sudo ndiswrapper -i net8185" and then "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[01:59] <kartoffelmensch> u cannot tell me that there werent any readmes in the package u installed the wrapper from [-x
[01:59] <Mr_Fixit> kartoffelmensch: you are not being much help... no offense but piss off
[01:59] <Odd-rationale> cool down, guys...
[02:00] <Mr_Fixit> what about the .sys?
[02:00] <kartoffelmensch> omg just enter the fricking commands, whats so hard about that :f
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: it needs to be in the same directory as the .ing
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> inf
[02:01] <kartoffelmensch> monkey see monkey do, the only skill u need
[02:01] <kartoffelmensch> =D
[02:01] <Mr_Fixit> which went where?
[02:01] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: what went where?
[02:01] <Mr_Fixit> well kartoffelmensch that's what i'm doing is copying what this nice guy has told me to do.. pretty damn easy for a linux noob huh
[02:02] <Mr_Fixit> well i ran the ndiswrapper and it installed but what about the sys file now?
[02:02] <kartoffelmensch> ﻿02:58:39) kartoffelmensch: just run "﻿sudo ndiswrapper -i net8185" and then "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[02:02] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: just leav it...
[02:02] <kartoffelmensch> nothing
[02:02] <kartoffelmensch> forget the sys file
[02:02] <kartoffelmensch> if u just untered the 2 commands that i wrote
[02:02] <kartoffelmensch> your driver is installed
[02:02] <kartoffelmensch> no need to whine cry or offend any ppl
[02:02] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: next do: ndiswrapper -l
[02:02] <kartoffelmensch> youre done
[02:02] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: with sudo
[02:03] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: and report the output...
[02:03] <Mr_Fixit> present
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: alright, now to the step kartoffelmensch was getting to: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: then check iwconfig and see if there is more than lo and eth0
[02:04] <Mr_Fixit> *fatal error blah blah blah operation not permitted
[02:04] <kartoffelmensch> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:05] <Mr_Fixit> yea now it's in iwconfig
[02:05] <Mr_Fixit> and thanks
[02:05] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: cool see if you can see connect now...
[02:05] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: btw,did restarting hal help?
[02:06] <Mr_Fixit> what's a keyring?
[02:07] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: it saves you passwd in a keyring so that you can store severall passwds in the keyring.
[02:07] <Mr_Fixit> okies
[02:08] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: does it work?
[02:08] <Mr_Fixit> yea wicked..
[02:08] <Mr_Fixit> all i need to do now is fix my res again lol
[02:08] <Mr_Fixit> thanks again...
[02:08] <kartoffelmensch> btw: in ANY package/tarball u leech are README and INSTALL files which tell you howto setup this thing, so for the future u know that :f
[02:08] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: wait, one more thing.
[02:08] <Mr_Fixit> and thanks for your input as well kartoffelmensch
[02:09] <kartoffelmensch> youre welcome
[02:09] <kartoffelmensch> yea
[02:09] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: do: gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[02:09] <Mr_Fixit> and yea i am a leech.. so what?? so is everyone else in one way or another..
[02:09] <Mr_Fixit> i contribute in other ways..
[02:09] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: it should open up /etc/modules with a text editor
[02:09] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: got it?
[02:10] <Mr_Fixit> no..
[02:10] <Mr_Fixit> one sec..
[02:10] <Mr_Fixit> oh ye.. i don't have gedit
[02:10] <Odd-rationale> oh sorry.
[02:10] <Odd-rationale> mousepad
[02:10] <kartoffelmensch> yes but the readmes are written from ppl who really knew what they are talking about and the include troubleshooting. if u read the readmes and install notes u are able to setup apps 3 times faster than asking in a channel
[02:11] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: gksudo mousepad /etc/modules
[02:11] <Mr_Fixit> yea but i don't always understand that stuff... i'm really new to terminals
[02:11] <Mr_Fixit> yea it's open
[02:11] <Mr_Fixit> *nano
[02:11] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: ok. if it is not already there, add this to the end of the file on its own line: ndiswrapper
[02:11] <Mr_Fixit> i have "fuse and lp"
[02:12] <Mr_Fixit> yea ok
[02:12] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: then reboot to make sure everything will still work after a reboot. :P
[02:12] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: oh, save and close the file... of course...
[02:14] <Mr_Fixit> thanks again.. for it all... damn compy finally works FULLY after 9 bloody distros..
[02:14] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: np. let me know if there is any problems after reboot...
[02:14] <Mr_Fixit> i gotta go eat... and get to setting this comp up..
[02:14] <Mr_Fixit> yea thanks again...
[02:14] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: maybe we'll figure out your resolution next :P
[02:15] <Mr_Fixit> well i got most of that... i just need to play a little bit..
[02:15] <Odd-rationale> Mr_Fixit: well, you know where to find me. or others for help.
[02:16] <kartoffelmensch> Odd-rationale: what do you think could be the problem which a HAL restart could solve ?
[02:16] <kartoffelmensch> regarding the double (un)mount problem ?
[02:16] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: hal usually handles all the autmounting and such
[02:16] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: i'd try restarting the hal daemon first...
[02:17] <Odd-rationale> sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[02:19] <kartoffelmensch> nope
[02:19] <kartoffelmensch> diddnt work
[02:19] <kartoffelmensch> still openeing 2 thunars when entering a cd
[02:20] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: do you have tw0 thunar daemons running?
[02:20] <kartoffelmensch> and still 2 windows which popup showing they trey to unmount my CD when i press on the open button on the tray (leading to 1 error message "could now unmount .. is not in the /media/.hal-mtab
[02:21] <kartoffelmensch> wellll
[02:21] <kartoffelmensch> no i dont have any thunar proces opened
[02:22] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: i assume the same still happens after a reboot?
[02:22] <kartoffelmensch> yep
[02:22] <kartoffelmensch> thats why i doubted the sense of the HAL restart
[02:22] <kartoffelmensch> =)
[02:24] <Odd-rationale> ok id doubt this will work either, but try rm ~/.config/Thunar
[02:25] <Odd-rationale> rm -rf ~/.config/Thunar
[02:26] <kartoffelmensch> see
[02:26] <kartoffelmensch> the problem isnt thunar
[02:26] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: i found this: http://sidux.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-12277.html
[02:26] <Odd-rationale> but that doesn't help much...
[02:26] <kartoffelmensch> i got a cd in my tray
[02:26] <kartoffelmensch> i press open
[02:27] <kartoffelmensch> then 2 small windows pop up
[02:27] <kartoffelmensch> on the bottom right
[02:27] <kartoffelmensch> showing "trying to unmount your cd"
[02:27] <kartoffelmensch> these 2 popups (where only 1 popup should be) are the proof for that there is some daemon or else running
[02:27] <kartoffelmensch> which does anything twice
[02:28] <Odd-rationale> thunar-volman-plugin?
[02:28] <kartoffelmensch> or 2 daemons of the same kind
[02:28] <kartoffelmensch> whats that ?
[02:28] <kartoffelmensch> its an almost fresh xubuntu install
[02:28] <kartoffelmensch> i diddnt install anything thunar related yet
[02:28] <kartoffelmensch> but i check, sec
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> i still think it is hal related...
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> but i gtg.
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> bbl
[02:29] <kartoffelmensch> well thanks
[02:29] <kartoffelmensch> anyways
[02:29] <kartoffelmensch> sleep well
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: maybe file a bug on launchpad of the xfce bugtracker...
[02:31] <kartoffelmensch> yea
[02:40] <Mr_Fixit> anyways kartoffelmensch my original problem was that in 6.06 my network connections would keep dropping.. both eth0 and wlan0.. they would connect for up to 30 secs and drop..
[02:42] <Mr_Fixit> after i installed 8.04 nothing worked.. at all.. my screen was shot, no network card and no sound..
[02:43] <Mr_Fixit> and after spending a day reading about similar problems i finally came in here to "leech" for help
[02:44] <Mr_Fixit> but i still have the wifi drops now that it's fixed..
[03:08] <kartoffelmensch> Mr_Fixit: maybe its your router/wifi card ?
[03:09] <kartoffelmensch> and not the drivers
[03:12] <Mr_Fixit> yea but would it do it to both the wifi and lan??
[03:12] <Mr_Fixit> it's not the network
[03:20] <Rakeer> laptop or desk?
[03:20] <Mr_Fixit> laptop
[03:20] <Rakeer> aha.
[03:21] <Rakeer> integrated networking chip...
[03:21] <Rakeer> would cause the issue to be with both devices...is the wifi integrated or the card?
[03:21] <Mr_Fixit> is it fixable??
[03:21] <Rakeer> I know there are enumerator issues with a lot of laptops, inability to use wifi and lan at the same time
[03:21] <Mr_Fixit> it's all integrated... no external devices
[03:21] <Rakeer> so if linux is attemping to power/use them both at the same time may be the problem
[03:21] <Rakeer> did you try disabling one or the other?
[03:22] <Mr_Fixit> well the lan is not recognized atm at all.
[03:22] <Rakeer> Mr_Fixit: Is you wirelss inside the laptop a mini-pci card or onboard?
[03:22] <Mr_Fixit> inside.. no card
[03:22] <Rakeer> lol, ok, I know, it's INSIDE the laptop...
[03:22] <Rakeer> but...usually there is a mini pci under a device plate where they stick your card, if not its on board\
[03:22] <Rakeer> what chipset/laptop model?
[03:22] <Mr_Fixit> lol i don't know much else then you can see the specs page if you want
[03:23] <Mr_Fixit> http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Q106/MagicLC/1008829sp2.shtml
[03:24] <Mr_Fixit> i have the pastebin for the lspci if you wanna look in there too
[03:24] <Rakeer> oh a gateway...can't say I'm hopful :P looking
[03:24] <Rakeer> sure
[03:24] <Rakeer> ah yes, integrated wireless ethernet
[03:24] <Rakeer> wireless / ethernet
[03:25] <Mr_Fixit> http://pastebin.com/m49da390c
[03:25] <Mr_Fixit> so at least that explains the drops on both..
[03:26] <Rakeer> Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[03:26] <Rakeer> google that about X/Ubuntu
[03:27] <Rakeer> or just RTL-8185 Xubuntu / Ubuntu and see what you find
[03:27] <Mr_Fixit> yea i got a fair bit...
[03:27] <Mr_Fixit> that'll at least get me goin.
[03:27] <Mr_Fixit> thanks
[03:30] <Rakeer> Hi favro
[03:31] <favro> hi !
[03:36] <Rakeer> (I switched back to my old freenode nick...after almost 3 years it was still registerd to me :)
[03:36] <Rakeer> registered*
[03:37] <Rakeer> <-RakZer0
[03:38] <Mr_Fixit> yea i noticed they don't drop them much...
[03:38] <Mr_Fixit> i seen one that was 5 yrs since registration and almost 4 yrs since use
[03:40] <Rakeer> what do you mean?
[03:40] <Mr_Fixit> well the nick hadn't been identifies in almost 4 years..
[03:40] <Mr_Fixit> *identified
[03:46] <Rakeer> ah
[03:46] <Rakeer> thought you were talking about the realtek chip or your laptop still.. lol
[03:47] <Mr_Fixit> lol
[03:47] <Rakeer> Open the bottom of your laptop and see if you have a mini pci slot
[03:47] <Rakeer> I would just buy a $15 broadcom based card or something
[03:48] <Mr_Fixit> well i dunno what the part looks like but yea that could be a solutionj
[03:48] <Rakeer> if you can disable the others in the bios I would reccomned that also...
[03:49] <Rakeer> there will be plates on the boot that comeoff with one or two screws to acces memory/hard drive/etc
[03:49] <Rakeer> maybe be a minipci in there...you never know
[03:49] <Mr_Fixit> yea i've been in there but i dunno if the one is a wifi card or not..
[03:49] <Rakeer> however you would need to extend or locate your wifi antenna cables inside and reconnect them..
[03:49] <Mr_Fixit> it's not ram or hd
[03:50] <Rakeer> could also be a modem
[03:50] <Mr_Fixit> well i don't need that either..
[03:50] <Mr_Fixit> how would i know??
[03:54] <Mr_Fixit> yea that's the wifi card in question..
[03:55] <Mr_Fixit> that's a mini pci slot???
[03:56] <Mr_Fixit> and can i put any other card in there?
[03:56] <Rakeer> any other mini pci I suppose...
[03:56] <Rakeer> not sure what
[03:56] <Rakeer> does it have a black/white little wire connected to it?
[03:56] <Rakeer> rather, 2 wires
[03:56] <Mr_Fixit> yup
[03:57] <Rakeer> on gold metal plugs
[03:57] <Mr_Fixit> b & w
[03:57] <Mr_Fixit> yea and the rtl8185 # on it
[03:57] <Rakeer> can you disable the ethernet in the bios?
[03:57] <Mr_Fixit> dunno if it was enabled in the first place..
[03:57] <Mr_Fixit> i'll go check..
[03:59] <Mr_Fixit> ok so onchip lan device is disabled
[04:00] <Mr_Fixit> rf power control on??
[04:00] <Mr_Fixit> n/m
[04:06] <Mr_Fixit> yea same problem...
[04:06] <Mr_Fixit> it still drops..
[04:06] <Mr_Fixit> so any new min pci wifi integrated card?
[04:10] <Rakeer> hm
[04:10] <Rakeer> well, I would try it, they're cheap for a good generic broadcom
[04:10] <Rakeer> however it may be the motherboard, but for $15 it can't hurt
[04:11] <Mr_Fixit> yea well i've rought it out of the grave this far... 15 bucks can't hurt..
[04:11] <Mr_Fixit> *brought
[04:11] <Rakeer> heh
[04:11] <Rakeer> its worth it for a working laptop imo..
[04:12] <Rakeer> dual boot microxp or something...
[04:12] <Mr_Fixit> nah... it was abused too much by xp lol
[04:13] <Rakeer> heh...well, thats why I say micro...remove everything, including all non-essential drivers, services, windows file protection (SFC, DEP etc)
[04:13] <Rakeer> sometimes its nic to have a ~75mb windows shell..
[04:14] <Mr_Fixit> yea.. i don't know enough to do all that lol..
[04:14] <Mr_Fixit> i'm a learner in progress..
[04:15] <Rakeer> ah...
[04:15] <Rakeer> check out nlite if you feel the need..
[04:15] <Rakeer> simple tool to make a custom windows install
[04:15] <Mr_Fixit> http://cgi.ebay.ca/GateWay-450-450ROG-Mini-PCI-WIFI-Wireless-Card-6002333_W0QQitemZ270269469753QQihZ017QQcategoryZ74954QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem   <--- does this seem like the right card?
[04:15] <Rakeer> anyways, back to xu
[04:23] <Rakeer> US $24.95  	Canada	USPS Priority Mail InternationalTM
[04:23] <Rakeer> lol ripoff
[04:23] <Rakeer> get one that is 54mbps b/g protocol..Im not sure wth that thing is..
[04:28] <Mr_Fixit> yea i noticed that shipping..
[04:28] <Mr_Fixit> looking for others
[04:29] <Mr_Fixit> http://cgi.ebay.ca/Intel-Pro-2200BG-2200-Wireless-G-Mini-PCI-Card-802-11g_W0QQitemZ170256888531QQihZ007QQcategoryZ44996QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[04:30] <Mr_Fixit> hell if that's a good one i'll buy now lol
[04:34] <Rakeer> Hard to say...I have little experience with the intel ones...I would google about linux compatibility..
[07:13] <pohvak> hello
[07:13] <pohvak> somebody?
[07:14] <favro> !ask
[07:14] <pohvak> i have a x86 computer (32 mb RAM (!) 2.4 GB hard disk, pentium 3)
[07:14] <pohvak> wich version of xubuntu can run on it?
[07:15] <pohvak> i try to run ubuntu 6 but ask me for at least 64 mb in ram
[07:15] <favro> 32mb is a bit short for most gui distros these days afaik
[07:16] <pohvak> lol, i know, is there any distro wich can i install?
[07:16] <pohvak> i need to use gimp, i only need a image editor to work in these 32 mb ram computer
[07:17] <favro> I think you're asking a bit much there...
[07:17] <favro> you could run a command line disto like ubuntu server I would think
[07:18] <pohvak> with 64 in ram, can i run xubuntu with gimp ??
[07:20] <favro> you would need to use the alternate install cd for xubuntu  - it would be slow but may work ok
[07:21] <pohvak> xubuntu 8.04 alternate ??
[07:21] <pohvak> ok, thanks i'll go to museum and steal a 32 mb pc100 ram
[07:21] <pohvak> lol
[07:23] <favro> I've got two 32mb sticks here doing nothing...
[07:24] <pohvak> how much?
[07:24] <pohvak> where are you from?
[07:25] <favro> they're collectors items now I believe - australia
[07:26] <pohvak> im mexican
[07:26] <pohvak> yeah, you are right
[07:27] <pohvak> i have like 3 or 4 computers stocked here in my house
[07:27] <pohvak> today was clean day and i'll like to make run one of those computers only for editing images
[07:28] <favro> I've found for the desktop to be usable I need at least 128mb mem - gimp will use about 40-60mb just starting up
[07:30] <pohvak> what about an old version?
[07:30] <Odd-rationale> pohvak: hmm. you should probably find another use for that machine... maybe a torrent+irc machine :D
[07:30] <favro> I wouldn't know about that
[07:30] <Odd-rationale> pohvak: older versions generally don't use less mem... in fact, they might actually use more...
[07:32] <favro> pohvak: you might look at puppylinux - it runs from cd
[07:33] <Odd-rationale> gtg. g8
[07:34] <pohvak> yeah, you are right favro, im reading in the web
[07:34] <pohvak> puppylinux or damn small linux
[07:34] <favro> and there is #puppylinux
[07:34] <pohvak> 16 mb (!) are enough to them =/
[07:35] <favro> make sure your swap file will be large enough :)
[07:38] <pohvak> what about vectorlinux?
[07:39] <favro> doesn't turn up much in stuff I've read - I've heard of it tho
[07:45] <pohvak> ok
[07:45] <pohvak> time to sleep here
[07:45] <pohvak> have to work tomorrow early
[07:45] <pohvak> good night or good morning
[07:45] <favro> good night :)
[07:45] <pohvak> everybody
[07:45] <pohvak> thanks for your help favro
[07:45] <favro> np
[07:45] <pohvak> i decided to download damn small linux
[07:45] <pohvak> it says that works with 16 mb ram
[07:45] <favro> dsl is ok :)
[07:46] <pohvak> lets see, in the future i'll connect to told ya guys what happen with my museum computer
[07:46] <pohvak> bye bye
[07:46] <favro> hehe
[10:12] <Ambient> anyone know how to set xubuntu xfce default window manager to snap on the screen edges&stuff on resize?
[10:14] <Ambient> also, how to resize using the top window border?
[10:37] <TheSheep> Ambient: you can't
[10:39] <Ambient> ok, nice. thanks :)
[13:01] <sevensun> Hello guys. I need to recover some files from my broken-windows laptop so I booted using the xubuntu live cd. In which folder should I search for the windows files??
[13:04] <sevensun> please guys, my boss is gonna cut out my head T_T
[13:12] <wols> none. you mount the windows partition first
[13:33] <Mark-lalala> Hello! I've been given a dusty old laptop with 180MB Ram and a duddery Celeron processor. I just formated the hard drive and the question now is "what OS should go on here?".
[13:39] <Myrtti> how impartial answer do you want?
[13:40] <Mark-lalala> I do realise I'm in a channel called #xubuntu, so I'll bear that in mind but listen to whatever you have to say.
[13:41] <Mark-lalala> If you're all for one OS above another, let me know why :)
[13:43] <Mark-lalala> Though I guess my main chriteria are hardware support for this knackered old laptop's bits and minimal hardware requirements in terms of RAM and CPU speed, etc.
[13:43] <Mark-lalala> *criteria
[13:44] <Mark-lalala> Besides that, all I want to do is view images and play various generic media types.
[14:09] <Ben_Cs> hello. does xubuntu have projects in java language i can contribute to?
[14:29] <BunnyRevolution> hi  i'l like to remove abiword and gnumeric, is there a way?
[14:30] <vinnl> BunnyRevolution, can't you do that in Synaptic?
[14:30] <BunnyRevolution> add/remove, nope.  it does'nt who tti's installed
[14:30] <BunnyRevolution> aptitude says the same thing
[14:31] <BunnyRevolution> sso i'm noot sure hhow it wwas installed for xubuntuu 8.04.1
[14:31] <vinnl> Just like it always is
[14:31] <BunnyRevolution> then aptitude should find and remove it, but aptitude doesn't know it's there
[14:32] <vinnl> BunnyRevolution, I just saw the same in Add/Remove... for me, could you try using Synaptic?
[14:39] <TMN_> BunnyRevolution: i removed abiword and gnumeric just yesterday from synaptic. should work..
[14:39] <TMN_> it's something like abiword-common
[14:40] <vinnl> !info abiword
[15:11] <sevensun> Hello dudes, :-D I got a very little problem which is dirivin' me crazy... I'm using a 20G iPod as external data storage device, but it looks like the system is unable to understand how much big this device is, and always gives out warning message such as "no enough space on the driver" when it actually is half-way filled. It Gives me a lot of problems while I'm using bittorrent, so I wonder if there's some kind of comman
[15:11] <sevensun> [I solved my "mounting windows-HD on Xubuntu live cd" problem, thanx a lot 8-)]
[17:45] <Ben_Cs> hello
[17:45] <vinnl> Hey Ben_Cs
[17:46] <Ben_Cs> say, is there a way for me to contribute to xubuntu projects in the Java language?
[17:47] <vinnl> I'd ask in #xubuntu-devel
[17:47] <Ben_Cs> didn't know of that channel. thanks
[17:47] <vinnl> :)
[18:26] <Traveller> have some serious trouble. My Sub-Notebook (using actual version of xubuntu) is freezing while playing flash videos in browsers (epiphany, firefox, opera). This happens nearly every time after a couple of minutes, when freezed the caps-lock - and optical mouse led keep blinking.
[18:28] <cody-somerville> Kernel panic it looks like
[18:28] <Traveller> what exatla is that?
[18:29] <cody-somerville> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_Panic
[18:29] <Traveller> ok :)
[18:32] <Traveller> my screen does not show an error like subscribed
[18:34] <Traveller> so my only hope is an update that brings cure?
[18:38] <cody-somerville> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[18:50] <Traveller> thanks, will try when ive got enough time
[19:43] <stevenw> hello all i have a mild problem
[19:43] <vinnl> Bring it on :)
[19:44] <stevenw> okay i just installed xubuntu on my girlfriend's laptop
[19:44] <stevenw> sometimes if it's not touched for a while the screen blanks
[19:44] <stevenw> when i wiggle mouse, cursor appears and moves accordingly
[19:44] <stevenw> but there is no desktop
[19:45] <stevenw> i have to ctrl-alt-bkspce
[19:45] <stevenw> to restart xserver
[19:45] <stevenw> also, don't know if this is related
[19:45] <stevenw> i can't change screen resolutions
[19:45] <stevenw> every time i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:45] <vinnl> stevenw, if it's the same problem as I'm having, you can just type the password and press enter to return to the desktop
[19:45] <vinnl> (Yep, I should've reported that long ago)
[19:45] <stevenw> really?
[19:45] <stevenw> oh huh
[19:45] <vinnl> stevenw, well, I can, even though I can't see the screen to enter the password in
[19:45] <stevenw> i have screensaver disabled tho
[19:46] <vinnl> The first time I went nuts :P
[19:46] <stevenw> really?
[19:46] <stevenw> that's so weird
[19:46] <stevenw> why does it do that?
[19:46] <vinnl> Oh, you sure? Then it's odd that the screen blanks in the first place
[19:46] <vinnl> No idea :P
[19:46] <stevenw> oh but when i try to recon xserver, i get an overwriting custom configuration message
[19:46] <stevenw> it asks me about keyboard
[19:46] <stevenw> but goes back to terminal before i choose drivers resolution anything
[19:47] <stevenw> i've tried it with -phigh too]
[19:47] <vinnl> Perhaps you can try running "sudo displayconfig-gtk"
[19:47] <stevenw> okay...
[19:47] <stevenw> lemme try
[19:48] <stevenw> okay....
[19:48] <stevenw> it lists model as plug n play
[19:48] <stevenw> i'm assuming that's generic
[19:48] <vinnl> There's also a Detect button I believe, just in case
[19:49] <stevenw> it lists intel 830 as graphics card
[19:49] <stevenw> test button returned config test failed. please verfy selected devices
[19:50] <vinnl> Hmm... Well, that's about everything I know about the xserver, sorry
[19:50] <vinnl> Perhaps ubottu  has some more info
[19:50] <vinnl> !display
[19:51] <stevenw> LOL
[19:51] <stevenw> checking....
[20:01] <rcscomp> Can someone help me with my xfce setup?  It was working fine, but now when I log in, the taskbars at the top and bottom of the desktop are gone.  I installed some KDE stuff (kate) and am wondering if maybe that messed something up.
[20:02] <vinnl> rcscomp, press Alt+F2
[20:02] <vinnl> Then run "xfce4-panel"
[20:05] <rcscomp> vinnl: that worked, thank you.  Any idea why it didn't do that to start with?
[20:05] <vinnl> Nope, sorry
[20:06] <rcscomp> well, I logged out and logged back in and now its there.  Maybe a corrupt session or something.  Thank you so much!
[20:06] <vinnl> No problem :)
[20:06] <vinnl> Happens to a lot of people, unfortunately
[20:09] <steven_> yeah happened to me a bunch
[20:09] <steven_> i put it in startup list
[20:09] <steven_> just to be sure
[20:09] <rcscomp> steven_: where would I find the startup list?
[20:10] <steven_> nvm
[20:10] <steven_> that was in regular ubuntu
[20:10] <steven_> hold on lemme remember how i put it in there
[20:10] <vinnl> rcscomp, in Applications->Settings->Settings Manager, "Autostarted Applications"
[20:10] <steven_> ah yes
[20:10] <steven_> damn it LOL beat me
[20:11] <rcscomp> thanks guys :)
[20:11] <vinnl> :)
[20:14] <steven_> lol vinnl is pretty good on here
[20:14] <steven_> helps out us n00bs
[20:14] <vinnl> Hehe, but when it gets too advanced I'm lost :P
[20:14] <steven_> LOL
[20:14] <steven_> same here
[20:14] <steven_> how long you been using?
[20:15] <vinnl> Xubuntu since Edgy, when it wasn't even released ;-)
[20:15] <steven_> wow i've been since beta gutsy
[20:15] <steven_> not too long
[20:15] <steven_> but i've been spreading it to everyone
[20:15] <vinnl> That's the way I like it :)
[20:15] <steven_> like oh your windows comp got bluescreenofdeath?
[20:15] <steven_> ah i know just the fix...
[20:15] <steven_> LOL
[20:15] <vinnl> :P
[20:16] <steven_> everyone's like i want email internet and games
[20:16] <steven_> UH PREPACKAGED!
[20:16] <steven_> WIN!
[20:24] <steven_> i am having some serious trouble getting my cursor to change...
[20:30] <steven_> nvm got it
[20:32] <vinnl> \o/
[20:33] <scifi> Hi guys, how do i access the keyring password storage ???
[20:35] <vinnl> I'm not sure you can
[20:37] <scifi> i just want to change the keyring password
[21:03] <Datz> Is it possible to install xubuntu(current version) on a USB drive?
[21:05] <vinnl> Datz, I've tried, but it's having some problems
[21:05] <vinnl> I wanted to try again today, but today's build failed to I couldn't download it
[21:06] <Datz> humm
[21:06] <vinnl> The process has also changed a bit
[21:07] <Datz> I tried earlier, but there was a problem and it was stuck on the boot screen.
[21:07] <vinnl> I got past that, but when I reached the login screen my Caps Lock and Scroll Lock lights started blinking and everything froze
[21:08] <Datz> Also somehow in the process the boot loader for my windows drive was corrupted.  :(
[21:08] <vinnl> By the way, I was "stuck" at the boot screen for a while too, but it was just a matter of waiting
[21:08] <vinnl> Oh, that sucks, though it's probably easy to find a solution online
[21:08] <Datz> ok, I thought maybe I was too impatient
[21:08] <Datz> yea, I found one and everything is back working again  :)
[21:09] <Datz> when I try to install it from my dell laptop(HD removed) the USB stick doesn't show up though.
[21:09] <Datz> I wonder if this is outdated : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent?highlight=(Usb)|(Drive)
[21:09] <vinnl> It probably is
[21:10] <Datz> ok
[21:10] <Datz> humm, well might have to go with dsl then
[21:11] <Datz> well I have to go for a bit, hopefully there will be a solution soon. Or a how-to...  :)
[21:11] <vinnl> I hope to write the how-to once I've managed it, but, well... It's me :P
[21:13] <Datz> Well I'll be looking forward to it.  ;)
[21:13] <vinnl> Hehe :)
[21:13] <vinnl> You're probably not the only one ;-)
[21:13] <vinnl> The guides for Feisty are some of my most popular articles ever :)
[22:00] <Firestorm> hi every1
[22:00] <Odd-rationale> hi, Firestorm
[22:01] <Firestorm> I'm rather new to linux and I was wondering how to start the windows x system when in recovery mode
[22:02] <Firestorm> cause for some reason normal boot is freezing up somewhere while recovery mode boots up xcompletely
[22:02] <Odd-rationale> Firestorm: well, one easy way would be to start gdm, which ill startx: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[22:02] <Odd-rationale> s/ill/will
[22:06] <Firestorm> says user not authorized to run the x server
[22:06] <Odd-rationale> Firestorm: did you use sudo?
[22:07] <Firestorm> yea
[22:07] <Firestorm> but now i logout
[22:07] <Firestorm> and it sent me back to root and it let me
[22:07] <Firestorm> but it froze on a black screen
[22:09] <Firestorm> well done trying for tonight i gtg
[22:09] <Firestorm> thx odd
[22:10] <Firestorm> cya
[22:12] <Odd-rationale> Firestorm: k, let me know if you need anymore assistance
[22:22] <Markopotamus> Hello! I'm using Xubuntu 8.04 on an old laptop. There's a problem with the screen resolution; the desktop is much bigger than the resolution and I can't see half of it. I previously had 6.06 installed and it didn't have this bug
[22:23] <Markopotamus> Any idea how I could fix this? I can't find anyway to change the resolution; there are none listed in the display options
[22:33] <eXistenZ> how much space do I need for xubuntu
[22:34] <eXistenZ> minimal requirements
[22:37] <Markopotamus> Heelp, I can only see from the top left to the middle of the desktop. The right hand side and bottom segments of the desktop are off the screen :X
[22:39] <favro> Markopotamus: try  alt+F2 then type  xrandr -s 1024x768
[22:40] <Markopotamus> favro: No luck, unfortinately
[22:40] <Markopotamus> Doesnt seem to do anything
[22:41] <Markopotamus> *unfortunately
[22:41] <favro> Markopotamus: well then try in a terminal - sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[22:41]  * Markopotamus tries
[22:42] <favro> Markopotamus: then ctrl+alt+bkspace to restart x
[22:42] <Markopotamus> k, here goes
[22:42] <favro> luck
[22:44] <Markopotamus> Cheers. Well the terminal sounds busy :p
[22:47] <Markopotamus> Iee, I am sorry to report no change
[22:48] <Markopotamus> Is there anything else I could try, favro?
[22:48] <favro> Markopotamus: that's fine - need to manually edit xorg.conf then - in a terminal  gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:49] <favro> Markopotamus: in the monitor section is there any options?
[22:49] <Markopotamus> no, just the rgb sliders
[22:49] <Markopotamus> got the xorg.conf file window up
[22:49] <favro> Markopotamus: could you paste the file?
[22:49] <favro> !paste
[22:50] <Markopotamus> erm.. it's empty (says I'm not in the root account and may harm my computer - pfft)
[22:52] <favro> Markopotamus: did you use gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[22:52] <Markopotamus> That's what I typed in the terminal window... is that what you mean?
[22:53] <favro> Markopotamus: yep - well you are using the root ac count - gksu allows you to
[22:54] <favro> so it's fine :)
[22:54] <Markopotamus> ah
[22:54] <favro>  Markopotamus: in the monitor section is there any options?
[22:54] <Markopotamus> Oooh, whoops, sorry, it says "you ARE using the root account, etc"
[22:54] <Markopotamus> *looks*
[22:54] <favro> :)
[22:55] <Markopotamus> Under Display you mean?
[22:55] <Markopotamus> Settings - settings manager  - display?
[22:56] <favro> in the file we just opened
[22:57] <Markopotamus> Under display on the list pannel on the left it says Default which does nothing and on the right are a bunch of rgb sliders.
[22:57] <Markopotamus> ah
[22:57] <Markopotamus> in the file we just opened there's nothing
[22:57] <favro> Markopotamus: you have to get the capitals right gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:57] <Markopotamus> I'll try again
[22:59] <Markopotamus> Doh. I am sorry, you're right, I missed that cap
[22:59] <favro> :)
[22:59]  * Markopotamus goes into pastebin
[22:59] <favro> so in the monitor section?
[22:59] <favro> k :)
[23:00] <Markopotamus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/42844/
[23:02] <favro> Markopotamus: yep - in a terminal do   lspci | grep VGA   please and it'll tell us the vid card
[23:02] <spyco> My sound crapped out and it is basically just echoing noise over and over and over... I cannot find the advanced sound options to change from alsa to oss and the others, does xubuntu have this option?
[23:03] <Markopotamus> k
[23:04] <spyco> i did sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart and that just turned down my volume but kept echoing
[23:05] <favro> spyco: in a terminal type   alsamixer   and try turning down/up sliders
[23:06] <favro> e.g. with my cd turned up I get background static
[23:06] <steven_> spyco: try turning down the microphone
[23:06] <spyco> i can hear it just fine the problem is the sound crashes after so long of playing and it begins to echo
[23:06] <spyco> like DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH
[23:06] <steven_> my laptop didn't have one but somehow picked up sound from something
[23:06] <Markopotamus> favro: the terminal isn't getting back to me on ﻿  lspci | grep VGA :s
[23:06] <steven_> that worked for me
[23:06] <spyco> then no new audio can be played
[23:07] <spyco> i want to switch from alsa to one of the other sound devices
[23:07] <favro> Markopotamus: try  lspci | grep vga
[23:07] <spyco> ubuntu allows it in the sound settings but xubuntus sound settings are so basic i cannot find the other settings
[23:07] <steven_> hmm
[23:08] <Markopotamus> favro: nore that :s
[23:09] <favro> Markopotamus: well just  lspci  then and have a read...
[23:10] <Markopotamus> nothing there either, favro... unless somethings popping up off the visible edge of my screen :s
[23:10] <spyco> does anyone know how to get this configuration program http://www.whatmission.net/Stuff/soundcfg.png
[23:11] <favro> Markopotamus: that might be the issue then - have you had linux on this comp before?
[23:11] <spyco> alls i need is to switch everything from alsa to oss  and esd
[23:11] <Markopotamus> favro - it had xubuntu 6.06 before, didn't have this problem
[23:12] <favro> Markopotamus: k - one min
[23:13] <Markopotamus> oh hey, result now. load o' text
[23:14] <Markopotamus> Sorry Favro, again it looks like I was doing something wrong, the terminal is responding now.
[23:14] <favro> ohh
[23:16] <Markopotamus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/42847/
[23:19] <favro> Markopotamus: just finding some xorg info for your s3 card
[23:19] <Markopotamus> cheers, favro.
[23:20] <spyco> So noone knows how to change alsa to oss like on ubuntu with this config program http://www.whatmission.net/Stuff/soundcfg.png ?
[23:21] <steven_> uhh i don't lol
[23:22] <spyco> :(
[23:22] <TheSheep> spyco: each program has its own preferences
[23:22] <spyco> what
[23:22] <TheSheep> spyco: for gnome apps, you can change it with the same program
[23:22] <TheSheep> spyco: for others, you will have to configure them
[23:22] <spyco> well does anyone know how to change from alsa to oss in xubuntu at all
[23:23] <spyco> i cant find documentation on it
[23:23] <TheSheep> spyco: there is no global switch
[23:23] <spyco> what are you talking about, do you know how to change it or not
[23:23] <spyco> weather it be config files
[23:23] <spyco> or a config p rogram
[23:24] <TheSheep> spyco: I know how to change it in vlc, mplayer, audacious, zsnes, visualboyadvance, etc.
[23:24] <TheSheep> spyco: each of this program does it differently
[23:24] <TheSheep> these*
[23:24] <spyco> alright ill try to configure totem then
[23:24] <TheSheep> it's usually a well-visible option in the preferences
[23:25] <whileimhere> Hi there.
[23:25] <TheSheep> totem uses gnome's defaults, which are set with the program that you just showed, that is not installed in xubuntu by default
[23:25] <favro> Markopotamus: gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf again and add these lines in the monitor section - HorizSync 30-110
[23:25] <favro> VertRefresh 50-70
[23:25] <spyco> do you know the programs name? is it just soundcfg
[23:25] <Markopotamus> favro: aight
[23:26] <favro> Markopotamus: then save the file and restart x - seems to mostly be all it needs
[23:26] <TheSheep> spyco: I think it's gnome-sound-preferences or something like that
[23:27] <spyco> ugg  totem doesnt have the option
[23:27] <whileimhere> How do I set XFCE up so that when I touch the edge of the screen it will go to the next workspace?
[23:27] <Markopotamus> favro: with the - before HorizSync or no?
[23:28] <favro> no Markopotamus
[23:28] <Markopotamus> k, just wanted to check anyway
[23:28] <Markopotamus> well that's done. Here goes!
[23:28] <Markopotamus> brb
[23:30] <Markopotamus> favro: Yeep, no change I'm afraid
[23:30] <whileimhere> What is the point of services like klogd?
[23:31] <favro> Markopotamus: k - we'll tell it directly the size to use - which reolution are you after?
[23:31] <TheSheep> whileimhere: so that when your system crashes, you can look and see why
[23:31] <Markopotamus> 1024 x 768 I guess.
[23:32] <whileimhere> other than that?
[23:32] <TheSheep> whileimhere: that's not enough?
[23:32] <whileimhere> well if it crashes it crashes I wont debug I just re-install
[23:33] <TheSheep> whileimhere: what if it crashes because your hard disk drive got broken?
[23:33] <TheSheep> whileimhere: you will keep reinstalling?
[23:33] <whileimhere> uh then I wont even get to the logs now will I
[23:33] <Markopotamus> favro: Im not sure what resolution the monitor is - it looks like 1024/768 to me while the desktop is almost twice that, perhaps 1600x1200
[23:33] <TheSheep> whileimhere: you will, it usually doesn't break entirely right away
[23:35] <Markopotamus> Whoah - favro, I was just trying the xrandr -s command you told me first and I was trying different resolutions and suddenly 800x600 worked
[23:35] <Markopotamus> I can see the rest of the screen now
[23:35] <favro> Markopotamus: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - screen section add these new lines after it says "Configured Video Device"
[23:36] <Markopotamus> although euw, the it's completly horible. Mishapen pixels.. ugh
[23:36] <favro> Markopotamus: yeh - 1024x768 sounds closer to the one
[23:36] <Markopotamus> yes! It worked!
[23:36] <Markopotamus> That command is working now and awsome, I can actually see the entire desktop
[23:36] <favro> oops - thse lines Markopotamus  - http://paste.ubuntu.com/42852/
[23:38] <Markopotamus> favro, could you please remind me the command to bring up xorg.conf?
[23:38] <favro> gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:39] <favro> and the up arrow in terminal will let you scroll through previous commands :)
[23:39] <Markopotamus> hehe oh yeh
[23:40] <Markopotamus> Done
[23:40] <Markopotamus> favro: restart time?
[23:45] <dpick> how do i connect to a samba share with thunar?
[23:46] <favro> dpick: from the top menu select  GO  then  open location afaik
[23:47] <dpick> favro: it didn't do anything
[23:48] <favro> dpick: did you type in a location?
[23:48] <dpick> yes
[23:48] <dpick> well i put a location in the bar, when i clicked open location nothing happend
[23:48] <favro> dpick: what did you type?
[23:48] <dpick> \\192.168.1.18
[23:51] <favro> dpick: I don't use samba but shouldn't it start smb/// - I'm googling it atm
[23:51] <dpick> that might be it
[23:52] <Markopotamus> favro: well it's a definate improvement! Had a scary moment there on starting up though...
[23:52] <Markopotamus> favro: right now I have the bottom edge of the screen but the right hand side is missing. However if I resize it then it comes back
[23:52] <favro> Markopotamus: I was worried ...
[23:53] <Markopotamus> favro: hehe, yeah it was a little worrying at first. I had some kinda crazy black and red screen for a few minutes, and then it asked me to configure the graphics card because it didnt recongnise it
[23:53] <favro> Markopotamus: type  xrandr  - it will show all available options for resolution
[23:54] <Markopotamus> fantastic. It certainly does
[23:54] <favro> dpick: type in smb://. You can then browse to what you want. - from a forum post
[23:54] <dpick> ok, i'll try that
[23:55] <dpick> favro: still isn't doing anything
[23:56] <dpick> i can connect using smbclient, i just wanted to be able to browse the shares
[23:56] <Markopotamus> restarting again
[23:57] <favro> dpick: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131 - a good howto :)
[23:58] <Markopotamus> favro: It's working now. Thankyou so much for holding my hand through that, you're a star.
[23:59] <favro> Markopotamus: np :)
[23:59] <dpick> thanks favro
[23:59] <favro> dpick: np :)
[23:59] <Markopotamus> now, if I could get this laptop talking to my XP PC over the network I'd be sorted :P