| JontheEchidna | Riddell: digikam-kde4 needs to be merged with digikam, since the KDE3 version has deps on KDE 3.5 packages no longer available in Intrepid | 02:25 |
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| apachelogger | no | 02:27 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what deps are these? | 02:27 |
| * apachelogger only saw kdebase-kio | 02:27 | |
| JontheEchidna | kdeprint | 02:27 |
| JontheEchidna | kipi-plugins | 02:27 |
| apachelogger | kdeprint? | 02:27 |
| apachelogger | hm | 02:27 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, recommends | 02:27 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 02:27 |
| apachelogger | I think only kdebase-kio is a real dep | 02:28 |
| JontheEchidna | those should be removed as recommends | 02:28 |
| apachelogger | and if amarok can live without kdebase-kio, digikam can as well | 02:28 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: feel free to update the package :) | 02:28 |
| JontheEchidna | ok :) | 02:28 |
| apachelogger | also merge with debian if they have any changes | 02:28 |
| * apachelogger notes that we should merge the core KDE packaging some time soon | 02:29 | |
| * JontheEchidna needs a few merges under his belt | 02:29 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 02:32 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: should I take from stable, unstable, or testing? | 02:32 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: unstable or testing, unstable is prefered though | 02:32 |
| apachelogger | or... at least I prefer unstable :) | 02:32 |
| JontheEchidna | latest digikam version in debian is lower than ours | 02:34 |
| JontheEchidna | in etch | 02:34 |
| JontheEchidna | nothing to merge then | 02:34 |
| apachelogger | oioi | 02:34 |
| apachelogger | hm | 02:34 |
| * apachelogger is wondering whether chromium is going to render it's own interface also on mac and linux | 02:35 | |
| apachelogger | looks pretty XULish to me | 02:35 |
| JontheEchidna | waitaminute | 02:35 |
| goatsocks | i'm sure it will, the whole app is just a webkit canvas | 02:35 |
| JontheEchidna | apt-cache policy sez digikam is at 2:0.9.3-2ubuntu1 | 02:36 |
| JontheEchidna | bug apt-get source says it's at 2:0.9.4-1 | 02:36 |
| JontheEchidna | which means debian has a package | 02:36 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 02:36 |
| apachelogger | yus | 02:36 |
| apachelogger | goatsocks: I am wondering whether it wouldn't have been better to use Qt | 02:37 |
| apachelogger | I mean qwebview uses webkit andway and replacing webkit's js vm or Qt's doesn't make much difference | 02:37 |
| apachelogger | *anyway# | 02:37 |
| apachelogger | omg | 02:38 |
| apachelogger | it's 3:38 already | 02:38 |
| apachelogger | -. | 02:38 |
| apachelogger | - | 02:38 |
| JontheEchidna | changelog for the latest debian packaging doesn't have anything in it other than *NOT RELEASED YET* | 02:39 |
| JontheEchidna | Anyhow, we have the latest released packaging | 02:40 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: bug 262957 | 02:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 262957 in digikam "digikam package is not installable due to depedency in a kde3.5 package no longer available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262957 | 02:50 |
| apachelogger | 197 people in #chromium ;-D | 02:51 |
| JontheEchidna | can haz sponsor? | 02:51 |
| JontheEchidna | need the .dsc and diff.gz too? | 02:51 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: me@apoc { ~/chrome }$ apt-cache policy kipi-plugins | grep Candidate | 02:52 |
| apachelogger | Candidate: 0.1.5-1 | 02:52 |
| JontheEchidna | not installable | 02:53 |
| apachelogger | well | 02:53 |
| apachelogger | that should be fixed :P | 02:53 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: try rebuilding, I guess it should be buildable with less functionality | 02:54 |
| * JontheEchidna pbuilds | 02:55 | |
| apachelogger | bah | 02:57 |
| apachelogger | my connection b0rked while I was downloading l10n stuff | 02:57 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 02:57 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you update the build-deps? | 02:58 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: the versions? | 02:58 |
| JontheEchidna | uh | 02:58 |
| JontheEchidna | it won't build | 02:58 |
| JontheEchidna | it's pulling 4.1.0 packages with pbuilder | 02:58 |
| JontheEchidna | ...because my pbuilder is for hardy | 02:58 |
| JontheEchidna | doh | 02:59 |
| apachelogger | you need to remove certain deps | 02:59 |
| apachelogger | like kooka is no more, kdeprints is no more... | 02:59 |
| apachelogger | whatever it depends on | 02:59 |
| JontheEchidna | digikam doesn't build-depend on kooka, nothing does | 03:00 |
| apachelogger | well | 03:00 |
| apachelogger | then it should just work I guess | 03:00 |
| jjesse | real quick somewhat non kubuntu related: if i checkout a bzr branch, then do a make install to build it, do i just do a bzr merge and make install to get the "latest" version of things? | 03:00 |
| JontheEchidna | if I had an Intrepid pbuilder environment | 03:00 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: yes | 03:01 |
| apachelogger | usually | 03:01 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: digikam won't build. libkdcraw5 is a KDE 4.x package now | 03:08 |
| apachelogger | hooray | 03:08 |
| JontheEchidna | as is libkexiv2-dev | 03:08 |
| apachelogger | we could certainly reintroduce these libs as KDE 3 versions using a seperated -dev and stuff | 03:09 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: letz wait for the Riddell's opinion, but I think we really should just move from -kde4 to digikam in this case | 03:09 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 03:10 |
| \sh | apachelogger: no chrome for me | 08:06 |
| apachelogger | \sh: my laptop got it :D | 08:35 |
| * apachelogger slept 4 hours! \o/ | 08:35 | |
| jussi01 | nice work apachelogger | 08:41 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: on what? | 08:41 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: 4 hours sleep :P | 08:42 |
| apachelogger | well, wasn't too much work really | 08:42 |
| apachelogger | sebas: got an ETA already? | 08:42 |
| goatsocks | hm, clicking on System Settings -> Advanced -> Samba does nothing | 08:55 |
| goatsocks | `kcmshell4 kcmsambaconf` works, but not `kdesudo kcmshell4 kcmsambaconf` | 08:55 |
| goatsocks | kdesudo(19215) KdeSudo::KdeSudo: [ /build/buildd/kdesudo-3.2/kdesudo/kdesudo.cpp : 157 ] creating xauth file: "/usr/bin/xauth -q -f /tmp/kdesudo-T19215-xauth generate :0.0 . trusted timeout 60 >/dev/null 2>&1" | 08:56 |
| goatsocks | findServiceByDesktopPath: kcmsambaconf.desktop not found | 08:56 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: upstream don't want us to change to digikam-kde4, it's on my todo list to fix the libraries | 09:01 |
| seaLne | should inrepid pim stuff be fixed? my upgrade still fails | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | :| | 10:06 |
| apachelogger | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/4:4.1.1a-0ubuntu1 | 10:06 |
| apachelogger | seaLne: are you using a mirror? | 10:06 |
| seaLne | http://paste.ubuntu.com/42984/ | 10:07 |
| seaLne | no | 10:07 |
| goatsocks | my mirror finally got everything a few hours ago | 10:07 |
| goatsocks | smooth upgrade after that | 10:08 |
| seaLne | well i'm usning archive.ubuntu.com but i presume you ment a non official one? | 10:08 |
| apachelogger | No, I meant antything but archive.ubuntu :S | 10:09 |
| apachelogger | seaLne: Please paste the error again. | 10:09 |
| seaLne | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/42988/ | 10:11 |
| apachelogger | hm | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | seaLne: This file conflicts is certainly opening up a new jar of upgrade issues. | 10:15 |
| goatsocks | did you upload kdepim updates for hardy? ;) | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | goatsocks: Pardon? | 10:16 |
| goatsocks | apachelogger: i assumed he was on intrepid, but he's got hardy packages installed | 10:17 |
| seaLne | i'm trying to upgrade to intrepid | 10:17 |
| apachelogger | seaLne: I think these issues might not appear with update-manager | 10:18 |
| raphink | haha :) | 10:22 |
| raphink | I created myself a new blog and imported all the old posts on it | 10:22 |
| raphink | and then I updated the RSS URL on planet Ubuntu | 10:23 |
| raphink | and now my posts from 2005 are showing on planet! | 10:23 |
| raphink | lol | 10:23 |
| seaLne | flood? | 10:23 |
| raphink | like a post that said I just tested warty PPC | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | that's what you get from pythonplanetware :P | 10:23 |
| raphink | heh | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/debdiffs/kdebase-runtime_4.1.1-0ubuntu2_to_ubuntu3.diff | 10:28 |
| apachelogger | oh main is frozen -.- | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | though, IMHO a working trash plasmoid is making us provide a higher quality alpha5 | 10:36 |
| * seaLne resorts to using a laptop after the failed upgrade kinda broke his work desktop :) | 10:38 | |
| apachelogger | seaLne: you should just have grown your /boot and used update-manager | 10:39 |
| apachelogger | update-manager works | 10:39 |
| seaLne | its a seperate partition and the rest is lvm | 10:40 |
| seaLne | i presume i couldn't use u-m now anyway? | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | shouldn't that make things a lot easier? | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | I am trying to squash the issues with apt | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | smarter: did you check up on kepas? | 10:42 |
| smarter | nop | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | smarter: get that done, I want to nuke it from the todo | 10:45 |
| apachelogger | I am running out of space | 10:45 |
| smarter | ok | 10:46 |
| sebas | apachelogger: ~1400 | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | sebas: thank you | 10:53 |
| sebas | You're welcome :) | 10:54 |
| smarter | apachelogger: should I rename the source or binary package to plasmoid-kepas? | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | smarter: binary, otherwise an archive admin needs to rereview it | 11:05 |
| smarter | ok | 11:05 |
| smarter | apachelogger: do you know a package which use a simple postinst to call ldconfig? | 11:28 |
| smarter | apachelogger: to solve E: plasmoid-kepas: postinst-must-call-ldconfig usr/lib/libkpf.so | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | seaLne: It appears the -dev is causing the only conflicts, or I am really lucky person. | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | smarter: I am not sure this is exactly necessary on ubuntu | 11:29 |
| smarter | ok, the package works fine otherwise | 11:29 |
| smarter | I'll push it to a bazaar branch | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | smarter: you can find a postinst.ex in dh-make | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | and for running ldconfig, just add it to the configure case | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | but I really don't think there is any point in doing this on ubuntu | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | smarter: how is kepas going? | 12:06 |
| smarter | apachelogger: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kepas/ubuntu :) | 12:06 |
| smarter | There's a few lintian errors and warnings, due to missing shlibs and things like that | 12:07 |
| apachelogger | smarter: can one use bzr-buildpackage for get-orig-svn? | 12:10 |
| smarter | apachelogger: not directy, you have to debian/rules get-orig-svn && mv *orig* .. && bzr bd --merge | 12:11 |
| smarter | pushed up revision 4, btw | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | ewww | 12:12 |
| apachelogger | feature request! | 12:12 |
| smarter | :) | 12:12 |
| smarter | but that could go into our bat-bzr script :P | 12:12 |
| apachelogger | the batscritps aren't exactly designed for anything but dark knight work :P | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | always these toolkit fights | 12:32 |
| * apachelogger doesn't have a clock or launcher since JontheEchidna broke his plasma | 12:53 | |
| apachelogger | so I have no clue when I have to release 4.1.1 | 12:53 |
| JontheEchidna | re-add them? | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | too much work | 12:53 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 12:53 |
| smarter | when is it supposed to be launched? | 12:53 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: it's 1:54 pm for you | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | thank you | 12:54 |
| smarter | and for me too :) | 12:54 |
| * apachelogger split views konqueror | 12:54 | |
| apachelogger | smarter: fixed kepas FTBFS in r5 | 12:55 |
| smarter | oh, I always forget quilt | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | qt4-x11 - 4.4.1-1ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1 apachelogger Pending Hardy Libs | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | apparently I am pending hardy :P | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | sebas: the 'all SVN changes' links are broken in the changelog :( | 13:07 |
| sebas | Gnnnnnn. | 13:09 |
| sebas | I've no idea/time to fix that .. :/ | 13:10 |
| apachelogger | sebas: ok, I'll look into it once I published all packages | 13:15 |
| ScottK | Would someone be up for writing a release note for Alpha 5 about knetworkmanager not working with networkmanager? | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: pling | 13:59 |
| smarter | where can I find a bigger version of http://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu-theme-v2/logo.png ? | 14:49 |
| seaLne | apachelogger: i seem to have conflicts on most kde -dev packages | 14:51 |
| sebas | apachelogger: lovely! | 15:17 |
| asfak | my wifi connection worked fine after alpha4 installation. but now, it no more works since last tuesday's update. Probably there was network (?) package that was updated. Now just lan works. I could see my wifi connection but could not connect. | 15:50 |
| * seaLne finished attacking his machine with --force overwrite and now has intrepid | 15:50 | |
| seaLne | and weirdly dual head starrted working again :) | 15:51 |
| vorian | asfak: #kubuntu-kde4 our kde4 support channel, plenty of great folks to help out | 15:51 |
| asfak_ | my wifi connection worked fine after alpha4 installation. but now, it no more works since last tuesday's update. Probably there was network (?) package that was updated. Now just lan works. I could see my wifi connection but could not connect. Sorry to repeat. I was disconnected. | 16:01 |
| smarter | asfak_: knetworkmanager is br0ken in alpha 5 | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | \sh: are you still around? | 16:21 |
| astraljava | Hey guys, my humblest apologies if this is a dead horse I'm about to start beating, but is Alpha-5 coming according to the schedule? :) | 16:33 |
| nixternal | what were all of teh changes in kde4 in hardy ppa? | 16:36 |
| nixternal | hopefully good stuff :) | 16:36 |
| vorian | you nixternal! | 16:38 |
| vorian | yo, actually | 16:38 |
| vorian | bleh | 16:38 |
| jtechidna | ubottu: tell me about bug 264370 | 16:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 264370 in kdepim "[intrepid] kmail crashes when reading a Google Calendar invitation email" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264370 | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | sebas: I add a new script to the changelogs dir to generate these changelog text files since none ever cared to document how to get them ... also uploaded the 4.1.1 ones | 17:27 |
| ScottK | astraljava: It's not out until it's out, but KDE 4.1.1 is fully built on the supported archs and the Kubuntu CDs are looking pretty good AFAIK. | 17:35 |
| astraljava | Thanks ScottK, I did download today's daily. | 17:40 |
| ScottK | IIRC there were two and you want the .1 one. | 17:41 |
| ScottK | 20080903.1 | 17:42 |
| astraljava | Yup, that's the one I got. | 17:46 |
| Riddell | evening | 18:00 |
| ScottK | Good evening. | 18:03 |
| ScottK | Except for release noting I think we are in good shape for Alpha 5. | 18:03 |
| Riddell | really? | 18:05 |
| Riddell | so this was overcome? 12:11 < pitti> Riddell: ouch, seems that kubuntu livefses have failed to build since 20080819 | 18:06 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 18:06 |
| ScottK | If I read #ubuntu-release correctly it turned out today's failure were failure to log, not failure to build. | 18:06 |
| smarter | Riddell: do you know where I could find a bigger version of http://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu-theme-v2/logo.png ? | 18:12 |
| Riddell | smarter: KubuntuArtwork ? | 18:13 |
| smarter | thanks ;) | 18:14 |
| ScottK | Riddell: That is unless you'd like to jump up and fix knetworkmanager so we don't need the release note. | 18:19 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I've no idea how to fix knetworkmanager I'm afraid, it needs API changes and that needs someone who understands how it works | 18:20 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Quit kidding us, we know you know ALL about all this stuff. | 18:20 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 18:20 |
| Riddell | I have some compile fixes for it | 18:23 |
| Riddell | but it doesn't make it work | 18:23 |
| ScottK | Nothing that it's worth trying to push onto the Alpha 5 image then. | 18:24 |
| asfak__ | smarter, if knetwork is broken in alpha5, is there anyway i can use my wifi in kubIntr5 ? | 18:33 |
| smarter | asfak__: either use the network manager from gnome(nm-applet) or manually edit the /etc/network/interfaces file, like in the good old days :) | 18:33 |
| asfak__ | ok | 18:34 |
| === asfak__ is now known as asfak | ||
| asfak | windows partition are not automounted as in ubuntu. will it remain the same in final release ? | 18:43 |
| jtechidna | What do you do when apport retraces fail? | 18:49 |
| jtechidna | Reject the bug? | 18:50 |
| Nightrose | jtechidna: can you do anything else with it? | 18:52 |
| Nightrose | if not then close ;-) | 18:52 |
| jtechidna | bug 264402 | 18:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 264402 in kdebase-workspace "plasma crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264402 | 18:52 |
| jtechidna | basically is no more use than telling us it crashed | 18:53 |
| Nightrose | jtechidna: then maybe ask when this happened? | 18:56 |
| vorian | looks like it happened about an hour ago | 18:56 |
| Nightrose | oO | 18:56 |
| * Nightrose pokes vorian | 18:56 | |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 18:56 |
| vorian | ouch! | 18:56 |
| * vorian steals a bandage from Nightrose | 18:56 | |
| Nightrose | I have bandages? | 18:57 |
| Nightrose | cool | 18:57 |
| vorian | you did have bandages :) | 18:58 |
| Nightrose | hehe | 18:58 |
| vorian | hmmm | 18:58 |
| vorian | kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu2 | 18:58 |
| jtechidna | apachelogger: yo, got chrome to work in wine | 19:16 |
| jtechidna | needs some tweaks to be usable though | 19:17 |
| === mcas_away is now known as mcas | ||
| * Arby slips in looking a bit sheepish | 20:15 | |
| Arby | somehow I managed to completely miss the existence of kde 4.1.1 | 20:15 |
| Arby | not good | 20:15 |
| Arby | so where are we in the grand scheme of world domination :) | 20:17 |
| jtechidna | lookin' good | 20:19 |
| Arby | excellent :) | 20:20 |
| Arby | if there are no pressing packaging tasks I better find myself something to do | 20:20 |
| * Arby grabs a daily iso to build a VM | 20:21 | |
| _gunni_ | Will digikam0.10 get in intrepid, or does it not catch up in time? | 20:34 |
| jtechidna | _gunni_: probably not 0.10 final | 20:42 |
| _gunni_ | Ok, so if its beta till then it will be included anyway? | 20:44 |
| jtechidna | beta1 is already in Intrepid | 20:45 |
| _gunni_ | thx | 20:48 |
| === mcas is now known as mcas_away | ||
| ryanakca | apachelogger: plong :) | 22:03 |
| claydoh | Nightrose: composing a reply to your email | 22:59 |
| Nightrose | claydoh: \o/ | 22:59 |
| Nightrose | take your time :P | 22:59 |
| claydoh | I will, I am starting dinner and am not a speedy composer :) | 23:01 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: bug 264506 | 23:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 264506 in kdebase-workspace "Upgrading Kubuntu Hardy to Intrepid: default-display-manager not updated, kdm won't start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264506 | 23:04 |
| seaLne | is that just the error about kde4 not existing anymore? | 23:06 |
| seaLne | hmm no | 23:07 |
| seaLne | during the upgrade i got asked twice about dm first including kdm-kde4 then 2nd time withough which i guess some people would find confusing | 23:08 |
| seaLne | kdm started fine for me but complained the saved setting of kdm-kde4 was no longer available that bug is different i guess | 23:09 |
| seaLne | err not kdm-kde4 i mean kde4 | 23:10 |
| seaLne | i presume anyone that didn't use kubuntu-members-kde4 packages in kde4 will probably upgrade alot better than anyone that did | 23:12 |
| seaLne | s/kde4/hardy/ sorry my thinking is curently lagging behind typing | 23:12 |
| seaLne | JontheEchidna: so my experience of upgrading yesterday/today didn't experience that bug | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | cool | 23:15 |
| seaLne | but i did have to beat my upgarde with --force overwrite quite a lot | 23:16 |
| seaLne | i think that was mainly due to the state of packages in the archive at that time? | 23:17 |
| seaLne | kdepim-- :) | 23:17 |
| seaLne | and with the exception of plasma crashes and a strange grey background on my 1st head i'm pretty happy with intrepid | 23:20 |
| JontheEchidna | nice | 23:25 |
| JontheEchidna | I think there were some fixes in the 4.1.1 packages that fixed the need for force-overwrite for kdepim packages | 23:26 |
| seaLne | not as of today unfortunatly | 23:27 |
| seaLne | but apachelogger was working on it | 23:28 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, so you've upgraded recently then ;-) | 23:28 |
| seaLne | tbh i think i probably picked a really bad time to try to dist-upgrade | 23:28 |
| seaLne | the upgrade fixed my problem of dual head only working if i manually ran X then xrandr then startkde which was weird (ati dual head card) | 23:31 |
| seaLne | using kde from kdm now actually honours the xorg.conf instructions :) | 23:33 |
| goatsocks | is there currently any way to disable the glx extension without manually molesting xorg.conf? | 23:50 |
| goatsocks | don't see anything in Login Manager for xserver args | 23:50 |
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