[02:25] Riddell: digikam-kde4 needs to be merged with digikam, since the KDE3 version has deps on KDE 3.5 packages no longer available in Intrepid [02:27] no [02:27] JontheEchidna: what deps are these? [02:27] * apachelogger only saw kdebase-kio [02:27] kdeprint [02:27] kipi-plugins [02:27] kdeprint? [02:27] hm [02:27] oh, recommends [02:27] yeah [02:28] I think only kdebase-kio is a real dep [02:28] those should be removed as recommends [02:28] and if amarok can live without kdebase-kio, digikam can as well [02:28] JontheEchidna: feel free to update the package :) [02:28] ok :) [02:28] also merge with debian if they have any changes [02:29] * apachelogger notes that we should merge the core KDE packaging some time soon [02:29] * JontheEchidna needs a few merges under his belt [02:32] hm [02:32] apachelogger: should I take from stable, unstable, or testing? [02:32] JontheEchidna: unstable or testing, unstable is prefered though [02:32] or... at least I prefer unstable :) [02:34] latest digikam version in debian is lower than ours [02:34] in etch [02:34] nothing to merge then [02:34] oioi [02:34] hm [02:35] * apachelogger is wondering whether chromium is going to render it's own interface also on mac and linux [02:35] looks pretty XULish to me [02:35] waitaminute [02:35] i'm sure it will, the whole app is just a webkit canvas [02:36] apt-cache policy sez digikam is at 2:0.9.3-2ubuntu1 [02:36] bug apt-get source says it's at 2:0.9.4-1 [02:36] which means debian has a package [02:36] Oo [02:36] yus [02:37] goatsocks: I am wondering whether it wouldn't have been better to use Qt [02:37] I mean qwebview uses webkit andway and replacing webkit's js vm or Qt's doesn't make much difference [02:37] *anyway# [02:38] omg [02:38] it's 3:38 already [02:38] -. [02:38] - [02:39] changelog for the latest debian packaging doesn't have anything in it other than *NOT RELEASED YET* [02:40] Anyhow, we have the latest released packaging [02:50] apachelogger: bug 262957 [02:50] Launchpad bug 262957 in digikam "digikam package is not installable due to depedency in a kde3.5 package no longer available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262957 [02:51] 197 people in #chromium ;-D [02:51] can haz sponsor? [02:51] need the .dsc and diff.gz too? [02:52] JontheEchidna: me@apoc { ~/chrome }$ apt-cache policy kipi-plugins | grep Candidate [02:52] Candidate: 0.1.5-1 [02:53] not installable [02:53] well [02:53] that should be fixed :P [02:54] JontheEchidna: try rebuilding, I guess it should be buildable with less functionality [02:55] * JontheEchidna pbuilds [02:57] bah [02:57] my connection b0rked while I was downloading l10n stuff [02:57] -.- [02:58] JontheEchidna: did you update the build-deps? [02:58] apachelogger: the versions? [02:58] uh [02:58] it won't build [02:58] it's pulling 4.1.0 packages with pbuilder [02:58] ...because my pbuilder is for hardy [02:59] doh [02:59] you need to remove certain deps [02:59] like kooka is no more, kdeprints is no more... [02:59] whatever it depends on [03:00] digikam doesn't build-depend on kooka, nothing does [03:00] well [03:00] then it should just work I guess [03:00] real quick somewhat non kubuntu related: if i checkout a bzr branch, then do a make install to build it, do i just do a bzr merge and make install to get the "latest" version of things? [03:00] if I had an Intrepid pbuilder environment [03:01] jjesse: yes [03:01] usually [03:08] apachelogger: digikam won't build. libkdcraw5 is a KDE 4.x package now [03:08] hooray [03:08] as is libkexiv2-dev [03:09] we could certainly reintroduce these libs as KDE 3 versions using a seperated -dev and stuff [03:09] JontheEchidna: letz wait for the Riddell's opinion, but I think we really should just move from -kde4 to digikam in this case [03:10] yeah [08:06] <\sh> apachelogger: no chrome for me [08:35] \sh: my laptop got it :D [08:35] * apachelogger slept 4 hours! \o/ [08:41] nice work apachelogger [08:41] jussi01: on what? [08:42] apachelogger: 4 hours sleep :P [08:42] well, wasn't too much work really [08:42] sebas: got an ETA already? [08:55] hm, clicking on System Settings -> Advanced -> Samba does nothing [08:55] `kcmshell4 kcmsambaconf` works, but not `kdesudo kcmshell4 kcmsambaconf` [08:56] kdesudo(19215) KdeSudo::KdeSudo: [ /build/buildd/kdesudo-3.2/kdesudo/kdesudo.cpp : 157 ] creating xauth file: "/usr/bin/xauth -q -f /tmp/kdesudo-T19215-xauth generate :0.0 . trusted timeout 60 >/dev/null 2>&1" [08:56] findServiceByDesktopPath: kcmsambaconf.desktop not found [09:01] JontheEchidna: upstream don't want us to change to digikam-kde4, it's on my todo list to fix the libraries [10:05] should inrepid pim stuff be fixed? my upgrade still fails [10:06] :| [10:06] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/4:4.1.1a-0ubuntu1 [10:06] seaLne: are you using a mirror? [10:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/42984/ [10:07] no [10:07] my mirror finally got everything a few hours ago [10:08] smooth upgrade after that [10:08] well i'm usning archive.ubuntu.com but i presume you ment a non official one? [10:09] No, I meant antything but archive.ubuntu :S [10:09] seaLne: Please paste the error again. [10:11] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/42988/ [10:14] hm [10:15] seaLne: This file conflicts is certainly opening up a new jar of upgrade issues. [10:15] did you upload kdepim updates for hardy? ;) [10:16] goatsocks: Pardon? [10:17] apachelogger: i assumed he was on intrepid, but he's got hardy packages installed [10:17] i'm trying to upgrade to intrepid [10:18] seaLne: I think these issues might not appear with update-manager [10:22] haha :) [10:22] I created myself a new blog and imported all the old posts on it [10:23] and then I updated the RSS URL on planet Ubuntu [10:23] and now my posts from 2005 are showing on planet! [10:23] lol [10:23] flood? [10:23] like a post that said I just tested warty PPC [10:23] that's what you get from pythonplanetware :P [10:23] heh [10:28] Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/debdiffs/kdebase-runtime_4.1.1-0ubuntu2_to_ubuntu3.diff [10:35] oh main is frozen -.- [10:36] though, IMHO a working trash plasmoid is making us provide a higher quality alpha5 [10:38] * seaLne resorts to using a laptop after the failed upgrade kinda broke his work desktop :) [10:39] seaLne: you should just have grown your /boot and used update-manager [10:39] update-manager works [10:40] its a seperate partition and the rest is lvm [10:41] i presume i couldn't use u-m now anyway? [10:41] shouldn't that make things a lot easier? [10:41] *shrug* [10:41] I am trying to squash the issues with apt [10:42] smarter: did you check up on kepas? [10:44] nop [10:45] smarter: get that done, I want to nuke it from the todo [10:45] I am running out of space [10:46] ok [10:53] apachelogger: ~1400 [10:53] sebas: thank you [10:54] You're welcome :) [11:04] apachelogger: should I rename the source or binary package to plasmoid-kepas? [11:05] smarter: binary, otherwise an archive admin needs to rereview it [11:05] ok [11:28] apachelogger: do you know a package which use a simple postinst to call ldconfig? [11:28] apachelogger: to solve E: plasmoid-kepas: postinst-must-call-ldconfig usr/lib/libkpf.so [11:29] seaLne: It appears the -dev is causing the only conflicts, or I am really lucky person. [11:29] smarter: I am not sure this is exactly necessary on ubuntu [11:29] ok, the package works fine otherwise [11:30] I'll push it to a bazaar branch [11:31] smarter: you can find a postinst.ex in dh-make [11:31] and for running ldconfig, just add it to the configure case [11:32] but I really don't think there is any point in doing this on ubuntu [12:06] smarter: how is kepas going? [12:06] apachelogger: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kepas/ubuntu :) [12:07] There's a few lintian errors and warnings, due to missing shlibs and things like that [12:10] smarter: can one use bzr-buildpackage for get-orig-svn? [12:11] apachelogger: not directy, you have to debian/rules get-orig-svn && mv *orig* .. && bzr bd --merge [12:11] pushed up revision 4, btw [12:12] ewww [12:12] feature request! [12:12] :) [12:12] but that could go into our bat-bzr script :P [12:13] the batscritps aren't exactly designed for anything but dark knight work :P [12:32] always these toolkit fights [12:53] * apachelogger doesn't have a clock or launcher since JontheEchidna broke his plasma [12:53] so I have no clue when I have to release 4.1.1 [12:53] re-add them? [12:53] too much work [12:53] lol [12:53] when is it supposed to be launched? [12:54] apachelogger: it's 1:54 pm for you [12:54] thank you [12:54] and for me too :) [12:54] * apachelogger split views konqueror [12:55] smarter: fixed kepas FTBFS in r5 [12:56] oh, I always forget quilt [12:57] qt4-x11 - 4.4.1-1ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1 apachelogger Pending Hardy Libs [12:57] apparently I am pending hardy :P [13:07] sebas: the 'all SVN changes' links are broken in the changelog :( [13:09] Gnnnnnn. [13:10] I've no idea/time to fix that .. :/ [13:15] sebas: ok, I'll look into it once I published all packages [13:36] Would someone be up for writing a release note for Alpha 5 about knetworkmanager not working with networkmanager? [13:59] ryanakca: pling [14:49] where can I find a bigger version of http://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu-theme-v2/logo.png ? [14:51] apachelogger: i seem to have conflicts on most kde -dev packages [15:17] apachelogger: lovely! [15:50] my wifi connection worked fine after alpha4 installation. but now, it no more works since last tuesday's update. Probably there was network (?) package that was updated. Now just lan works. I could see my wifi connection but could not connect. [15:50] * seaLne finished attacking his machine with --force overwrite and now has intrepid [15:51] and weirdly dual head starrted working again :) [15:51] asfak: #kubuntu-kde4 our kde4 support channel, plenty of great folks to help out [16:01] my wifi connection worked fine after alpha4 installation. but now, it no more works since last tuesday's update. Probably there was network (?) package that was updated. Now just lan works. I could see my wifi connection but could not connect. Sorry to repeat. I was disconnected. [16:15] asfak_: knetworkmanager is br0ken in alpha 5 [16:21] \sh: are you still around? [16:33] Hey guys, my humblest apologies if this is a dead horse I'm about to start beating, but is Alpha-5 coming according to the schedule? :) [16:36] what were all of teh changes in kde4 in hardy ppa? [16:36] hopefully good stuff :) [16:38] you nixternal! [16:38] yo, actually [16:38] bleh [16:50] ubottu: tell me about bug 264370 [16:50] Launchpad bug 264370 in kdepim "[intrepid] kmail crashes when reading a Google Calendar invitation email" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264370 [17:27] sebas: I add a new script to the changelogs dir to generate these changelog text files since none ever cared to document how to get them ... also uploaded the 4.1.1 ones [17:35] astraljava: It's not out until it's out, but KDE 4.1.1 is fully built on the supported archs and the Kubuntu CDs are looking pretty good AFAIK. [17:40] Thanks ScottK, I did download today's daily. [17:41] IIRC there were two and you want the .1 one. [17:42] 20080903.1 [17:46] Yup, that's the one I got. [18:00] evening [18:03] Good evening. [18:03] Except for release noting I think we are in good shape for Alpha 5. [18:05] really? [18:06] so this was overcome? 12:11 < pitti> Riddell: ouch, seems that kubuntu livefses have failed to build since 20080819 [18:06] Yes. [18:06] If I read #ubuntu-release correctly it turned out today's failure were failure to log, not failure to build. [18:12] Riddell: do you know where I could find a bigger version of http://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu-theme-v2/logo.png ? [18:13] smarter: KubuntuArtwork ? [18:14] thanks ;) [18:19] Riddell: That is unless you'd like to jump up and fix knetworkmanager so we don't need the release note. [18:20] ScottK: I've no idea how to fix knetworkmanager I'm afraid, it needs API changes and that needs someone who understands how it works [18:20] Riddell: Quit kidding us, we know you know ALL about all this stuff. [18:20] ;-) [18:23] I have some compile fixes for it [18:23] but it doesn't make it work [18:24] Nothing that it's worth trying to push onto the Alpha 5 image then. [18:33] smarter, if knetwork is broken in alpha5, is there anyway i can use my wifi in kubIntr5 ? [18:33] asfak__: either use the network manager from gnome(nm-applet) or manually edit the /etc/network/interfaces file, like in the good old days :) [18:34] ok === asfak__ is now known as asfak [18:43] windows partition are not automounted as in ubuntu. will it remain the same in final release ? [18:49] What do you do when apport retraces fail? [18:50] Reject the bug? [18:52] jtechidna: can you do anything else with it? [18:52] if not then close ;-) [18:52] bug 264402 [18:52] Launchpad bug 264402 in kdebase-workspace "plasma crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264402 [18:53] basically is no more use than telling us it crashed [18:56] jtechidna: then maybe ask when this happened? [18:56] looks like it happened about an hour ago [18:56] oO [18:56] * Nightrose pokes vorian [18:56] ;-) [18:56] ouch! [18:56] * vorian steals a bandage from Nightrose [18:57] I have bandages? [18:57] cool [18:58] you did have bandages :) [18:58] hehe [18:58] hmmm [18:58] kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu2 [19:16] apachelogger: yo, got chrome to work in wine [19:17] needs some tweaks to be usable though === mcas_away is now known as mcas [20:15] * Arby slips in looking a bit sheepish [20:15] somehow I managed to completely miss the existence of kde 4.1.1 [20:15] not good [20:17] so where are we in the grand scheme of world domination :) [20:19] lookin' good [20:20] excellent :) [20:20] if there are no pressing packaging tasks I better find myself something to do [20:21] * Arby grabs a daily iso to build a VM [20:34] <_gunni_> Will digikam0.10 get in intrepid, or does it not catch up in time? [20:42] _gunni_: probably not 0.10 final [20:44] <_gunni_> Ok, so if its beta till then it will be included anyway? [20:45] beta1 is already in Intrepid [20:48] <_gunni_> thx === mcas is now known as mcas_away [22:03] apachelogger: plong :) [22:59] Nightrose: composing a reply to your email [22:59] claydoh: \o/ [22:59] take your time :P [23:01] I will, I am starting dinner and am not a speedy composer :) [23:04] apachelogger: bug 264506 [23:04] Launchpad bug 264506 in kdebase-workspace "Upgrading Kubuntu Hardy to Intrepid: default-display-manager not updated, kdm won't start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264506 [23:06] is that just the error about kde4 not existing anymore? [23:07] hmm no [23:08] during the upgrade i got asked twice about dm first including kdm-kde4 then 2nd time withough which i guess some people would find confusing [23:09] kdm started fine for me but complained the saved setting of kdm-kde4 was no longer available that bug is different i guess [23:10] err not kdm-kde4 i mean kde4 [23:12] i presume anyone that didn't use kubuntu-members-kde4 packages in kde4 will probably upgrade alot better than anyone that did [23:12] s/kde4/hardy/ sorry my thinking is curently lagging behind typing [23:15] JontheEchidna: so my experience of upgrading yesterday/today didn't experience that bug [23:15] cool [23:16] but i did have to beat my upgarde with --force overwrite quite a lot [23:17] i think that was mainly due to the state of packages in the archive at that time? [23:17] kdepim-- :) [23:20] and with the exception of plasma crashes and a strange grey background on my 1st head i'm pretty happy with intrepid [23:25] nice [23:26] I think there were some fixes in the 4.1.1 packages that fixed the need for force-overwrite for kdepim packages [23:27] not as of today unfortunatly [23:28] but apachelogger was working on it [23:28] ah, so you've upgraded recently then ;-) [23:28] tbh i think i probably picked a really bad time to try to dist-upgrade [23:31] the upgrade fixed my problem of dual head only working if i manually ran X then xrandr then startkde which was weird (ati dual head card) [23:33] using kde from kdm now actually honours the xorg.conf instructions :) [23:50] is there currently any way to disable the glx extension without manually molesting xorg.conf? [23:50] don't see anything in Login Manager for xserver args