[00:20] <ForgeAus> Google Chrome on wine?... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5715263
[00:21] <karl_> what can i use to script pidgin stuff? I want to make a buddy pounce that will send me a txt message
[00:26] <karl_> what can i use to script pidgin stuff? I want to make a buddy pounce that will send me a text SMS
[00:35] <alistair> Recommendations for system tray notes manager?
[00:36] <raylu> I just installed Kubuntu as the second partition (first being Windows) but I'm still stuck with the old bootloader. Anyone want to stop me before I use grub-install?
[00:38] <BluesKaj> old bootloader ?
[00:38] <alistair> raylu, be very careful when mucking around with the boot loader; last week I seemed to lose my windows partition and I have had 20 years experience with PC.
[00:38] <mn> Ok, I am dual booting Win XP and Kubuntu 8.04.1 KDE 4. I downloaded the ndiswrapper (on XP because I have my drivers installed on it) and put it on a flash drive. I booted Kubuntu and extracted ndiswrapper. Then I went and read the file it gives about how to install it. I followed the directions word for word (except it didn't say make uninstall and make as root but I had to because I didn't...
[00:38] <mn> ...have sufficient permission otherwise). However, on the make and make install parts I kept getting errors, but I kept going. When it got to the part to install the driver ("ndiswrapper -i driver.inf"), I was notified that ndiswrapper wasn't installed and I needed to apt-get it. Well, that won't work because the whole reason I need it is to connect to the internet (apt-get and surf and...
[00:38] <mn> ...stuff). I can't figure out what the problem is. (BTW I also tried sudo apt-get while booted on the liveCD and logged-in on Kubuntu with the disk in the drive.) Any ideas?
[00:39] <raylu> BluesKaj: the win xp bootloader
[00:39] <BluesKaj> grub is the best way to gor for windows / kubuntu dual boot
[00:39] <BluesKaj> !grub
[00:39] <theunixgeek> Is there a package available that has libgtk2.0-dev and all its dependencies in it?
[00:39] <raylu> right, i'm aware
[00:39] <raylu> which is why i'm asking if there's any reason i shouldn't be running grub-install
[00:39] <raylu> i'm wondering why the installer didn't take care of it for me
[00:39] <Denise> mn u send the messages on both channels at the same time?
[00:40] <raylu> i installed off the "kde4 remix"
[00:40] <mn> no
[00:40] <Denise> yes
[00:40] <bomber> raylu there are a few steps you have to follow
[00:40] <Denise> u have the same questions at the same time on ubuntu channel
[00:40] <mn> i din't think anyone was gonna help at ubuntu
[00:40] <raylu> heh. i just ran: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk-1 /dev/sda
[00:40] <Denise> ok
[00:40] <Denise> so u came here after
[00:40] <raylu> so anyway, crossing my fingers while rebooting
[00:40] <alistair> raylu, if its working ok, then best leave it, but if you must you need to remove the grub by 'approved' methods one of which is to use your winxp boot/install disk and use the 'R' option then run fixmbr. As documented elsewhere
[00:41] <mn> yes i know I waited for a couple of min
[00:41] <mn> and yes i came here
[00:41] <Denise> hmm
[00:41] <mn> it fitx better here anyway
[00:41] <mn> fits*
[00:41] <Denise> less people here
[00:41] <Denise> yep
[00:42] <Denise> on ubuntu it is hard to read the questions
[00:42] <alistair> Anyways, thats not answering my quest - any of you using a tray notes manager - the one im using now is Notecase but wondering if any better?
[00:42] <mn> oh, my bad
[00:42] <mn> reposted too soon i guess
[00:45] <Denise> well
[00:45] <Denise> u need an answwr dont u?
[00:45] <mn> yep, badly
[00:46] <Denise> u have a strange question
[00:49] <mn> do you know what i should do?
[00:49] <Denise> still a newbie
[00:49] <Denise> but soon it will be my pleasure to help u
[00:50] <mn> ah ok
[00:50] <Denise> what is ndiswrapper?
[00:51] <Denise> a driver for what?
[00:52] <mn> its not a driver
[00:52] <Denise> what is it
[00:53] <mn> its a free driver wrapper that allows you to use Windows wirless drivers on linux based systems
[00:53] <Denise> ah ok I see it right now
[00:53] <Denise> on net
[00:54] <Denise> there is a channel
[00:54] <Denise> just for it
[00:54] <Denise> #ndiswrapper
[00:55] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[01:01] <Denise> I had that kind of problems with pidgin 2.5
[01:02] <Denise> lol
[01:02] <Denise> i cant help
[01:04] <unclean> !display
[01:04] <ForgeAus> how do I get flash to work in konqueror?
[01:05] <mn> just a suggestion: you could switch to firefox (alot more user-friendly IMHO)
[01:06] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:06] <Denise> u need firefox for a while?
[01:06] <mn> ??
[01:08] <BluesKaj> mn, konqueror is a good browser...it's just a bit tiresome to set up properly. That's why I use FF :)
[01:09] <mn> same here.  FF is more customizable and I don't really like the way konqueror is set up
[01:10] <BluesKaj> konq is too menu driven for my taste
[01:11] <mn> oh yeah that's true. and i don't like having to type http://www.whatever.com i just use whatever and then ctrl + enter
[01:12] <Denise> lol
[01:13] <Denise> mn u are productive
[01:13] <mn> lol
[01:15] <BluesKaj> kona is a great locator and sometimes I use it when FF doesn't render IE type pages
[01:15] <Denise> remind me someone
[01:15] <BluesKaj> err konq
[01:15] <Denise> u score quickly
[01:16] <mn> hrmm, i haven't come across a page yet that FF wouldn't render.  I guess i better keep konqueror though
[01:16] <BluesKaj> konq can' be uninstalled without dumping kde
[01:17] <BluesKaj> err can't
[01:18] <mn> not sudo apt-get remove konqueror?
[01:19] <Denise> lol
[01:19] <Denise> hawaiian guy
[01:20] <BluesKaj> nope, it''l take all of kubuntu dektop with it
[01:20] <BluesKaj> desktop
[01:20] <Denise> blue sky
[01:21] <BluesKaj> nope blues-kaj , but it does rhyme with sky :)
[01:22] <Denise> ur testing me again
[01:23] <mn> if i remove kde4 and apt-get ubuntu-desktop will I be effectively running ubuntu (except for the boot screen)?
[01:23] <BluesKaj> <--old drummer in rocknroll band, hence the blues thing , Denise :)
[01:25] <Denise> blue sky is coming?
[01:26] <BluesKaj> mn, kdm (bootscreen) may also be uninstalled , not quite sure
[01:27] <BluesKaj> mn kde4 , oh, that's different , you prolly have kde3 already installed , but you will still have konqueror in that case
[01:28] <mn> why would I already have kde3 installed?
[01:30] <Denise> konquerer, firefox
[01:30] <dr_willis> depends on which kubuntu you installed.
[01:30] <Denise> beaches
[01:30] <Denise> hawaii
[01:30] <BluesKaj> most installs have kde3 as the default desktop environment , kde4 is an optional one that installs beside kde3 , and you choose which one at the login menu
[01:30] <Denise> ur testing ff
[01:30] <mn> I installed Kubuntu 8.04.1 KDE4
[01:31] <Denise> u dont trust me yet?
[01:32] <Denise> or u want an answer?
[01:33] <Denise> 666
[01:33] <corigo> K3b is having writing issues with my Lenovo T-61. Anyone know where I can get some support on this?
[01:33] <dr_willis> corigo,  i think theres a laptop/thinkpad forum ont he ubuntu forums
[01:34] <corigo> K3b a Kubuntu app?
[01:34] <BluesKaj> yup
[01:34] <corigo> (Isn't)
[01:34] <Denise> testing
[01:34] <Denise> ok
[01:34] <Denise> have a good night
[01:36] <BluesKaj> mn, check your login menu..you may have the kde3 option since it's still the default desktop in 8.04 akaik
[01:36] <BluesKaj> oops
[01:40] <Denise> not bright
[01:45] <jazzman> k3ron is that a ham call??????????
[01:47] <Denise> ok
[01:47] <Denise> over for me
[01:47] <Denise> finished
[01:48] <Denise> that last humiliation was really not necessary
[01:49] <BluesKaj> Denise, what humiliation ?
[01:50] <Denise> doggymenz
[01:50] <Denise> pedro
[01:50] <Denise> hawaii
[01:50] <Denise> beaches
[01:50] <ForgeAus> you need  windows installer 2, msxml4, common controls 5, and directx9. to get chrome to work under wine
[01:50] <ForgeAus> (google chrome that is)
[01:51] <BluesKaj> still dunno what you mean , Denise
[01:51] <Denise> u still take me as a prostitute?
[01:52]  * BluesKaj detects a flme about to light up 
[02:01] <alistair> Checkboxes system wide are not working properly on this machine?
[02:07] <kataklysm54> quelqun de francais ici???
[02:07] <kataklysm54> je débute sous kubuntu
[02:08] <Denise> je parle auz hommes
[02:08] <kataklysm54> et je voudrais savoir si quelqun pourrais me guider!!!
[02:08] <Denise> pas
[02:08] <kataklysm54> denise...
[02:08] <Denise> quoi
[02:08] <kataklysm54> tu sais bien lutiliser?
[02:08] <kataklysm54> kubuntu
[02:08] <kataklysm54> tu sais lutiliser?
[02:08] <Denise> non
[02:08] <Denise> ubuntu
[02:08] <kataklysm54> tu est sur ubuntu toi?
[02:09] <Denise> oui
[02:09] <kataklysm54> ahh tu es dou toi?
[02:09] <Denise> ubuntu
[02:10] <kataklysm54> mais non mais tu habite dans quel coin?lool
[02:10] <Denise> canada
[02:10] <kataklysm54> ah daccord
[02:10] <kataklysm54> moi je suis de france
[02:10] <kataklysm54> mais je suis allemand
[02:10] <kataklysm54> sa fait longtemp que tu utilise ubuntu?
[02:10] <osiris> can anyone recomend a program for converting wmv to a dvd player format ?
[02:11] <kataklysm54> osiris
[02:11] <kataklysm54> french please
[02:11] <Denise> un mois peut-[etre
[02:11] <kataklysm54> ah daccord tu sais installer tout ca?
[02:11] <osiris> uh....this is the ENGLISH channel last i checked.
[02:11] <Denise> oui
[02:11] <kataklysm54> ah dac moi ossi mais je voudrais savoir plus de choses
[02:12] <kataklysm54> tu as réussi a installer java?
[02:12] <Denise> comme quoi
[02:12] <Denise> non
[02:12] <kataklysm54> ta essaier?
[02:12] <Denise> pas encore
[02:12] <kataklysm54> moi oui mais marche pas
[02:12] <kataklysm54> sa me soule!!!
[02:13] <Denise> oui je vois ca
[02:13] <kataklysm54> lool
[02:13] <kataklysm54> je comprends pas
[02:14] <Denise> tu as quel age
[02:14] <kataklysm54> normalement c'est sudo apt-get install <fichier>
[02:14] <kataklysm54> mais java il connais pas c chiant
[02:14] <kataklysm54> jai 18 ans et toi?
[02:14] <Denise> 15
[02:14] <Denise> je dois partir
[02:14] <kataklysm54> ah tu est jeune dit donc lool
[02:14] <Denise> bonne chance
[02:14] <kataklysm54> ok a la prochaine denise
[02:14] <kataklysm54> merci
[02:15] <kataklysm54> osiris!!!
[02:15] <osiris> what
[02:15] <kataklysm54> the englisch channel hier?
[02:15] <kataklysm54> ???
[02:15] <osiris> this is the english channel
[02:16] <kataklysm54> wo is the french channel?
[02:16] <kataklysm54> ??
[02:16] <osiris> 1 sec.
[02:16] <kataklysm54> ok
[02:17] <kataklysm54> ???
[02:17] <BluesKaj> !fr
[02:18] <osiris> thx BluesKaj
[02:18] <BluesKaj> np
[02:18] <osiris> bit rusty, i am
[02:19] <osiris> BluesKaj, any idea on dvd authoring app, or a way to convert wmv to dvd
[02:20] <BluesKaj> tovid CLI or GUI , osiris ..or you could try ffmpeg on it's own
[02:20] <osiris> tovid cli has just failed me.  thats why i asked.  good call though.
[02:20] <BluesKaj> there's mencoder as well but it's abit to lossy for my liking
[02:20] <osiris> was my first thought too
[02:21] <osiris> gonna try tovid again, but it has a history of being bugy on my various machines.
[02:22] <BluesKaj> I had tovid working quite well ...it has a wiki site which gives an important dependency list and tutorial
[02:22] <Zopiac1> how to i add desktop effects?
[02:22] <osiris> thats probably where i'll end up.
[02:23] <Zopiac1> preferrably compiz, but not necessarily
[02:23] <BluesKaj> osiris, i haven't used it nmuch since i bought a Tivo which sort of negates the need for a dvd setup
[02:23] <osiris> this is a project for a co-worker
[02:23] <BluesKaj> compiz is the most popular , Zopiac1
[02:24] <Rayy> hi, how can i stop the xserver? using kubuntu 8.04 with kde 4.1
[02:24] <osiris> she created the disc as a slide whow of family pictures, but she has no idea how to make it playable in a real player
[02:24] <Zopiac1> i know, but how tdo i set it up on kde
[02:24] <BluesKaj> !compiz, Zopiac1
[02:24] <BluesKaj> damn
[02:24] <Rayy> already tried sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop  but its not working
[02:24] <Zopiac1> lol
[02:24] <BluesKaj> !compiz
[02:25] <Zopiac1> i have it installed, but perhaps i ddont have the manager
[02:25] <Zopiac1> ok...those dont seem to be working
[02:25] <BluesKaj> Zopiac1, #compiz-fusion is the place to ask
[02:25] <osiris> Rayy, go to a terminal after you stop kdm, and sudo killall Xorg
[02:26] <Rayy> osiris: k, ty
[02:26] <osiris> that should do it
[02:27] <BluesKaj> osiris,I would try K3B after converting with ffmpeg
[02:28] <osiris> that was the burning app i was planning on.
[02:28] <Rayy> osiris: didnt work
[02:28] <osiris> just wondered if my old methods had been replaced by some new killer app
[02:28] <Rayy> osiris: it just reseted the x session
[02:28] <Rayy> osiris: was back at the login
[02:28] <osiris> hmm
[02:28] <Rayy> and best, kdm and kdm-kde4 are not running but i have kde 4.1 gui lolz
[02:29] <osiris> sudo killall kdm && sudo killall xorg ?
[02:29] <BluesKaj> osiris, no new killer apps afaik, just some upgrades to the existing ones
[02:30] <BluesKaj> that damn kde4 ...wish ppl would leave us kde3 guys alone :)
[02:30] <Zopiac1> whats so bad about 4 ;)
[02:30] <BluesKaj> I'm prolly gonna be lost in the dust soon
[02:31] <BluesKaj> eye candy and silly widgets that don't work or hide themselves :)
[02:32] <BluesKaj> I'm too old for fisher price stuff :)
[02:32] <Rayy> osiris: ty, worked
[02:32] <Rayy> osiris: since when do u need to kill kdm?
[02:33] <osiris> idk.  in my opinion, if you want something dead.  kill it
[02:33] <osiris> for certain processes i use start and stop
[02:33] <gecko_> DevilLord2k
[02:33] <osiris> but if its acting wrong in the first place, a kill is usually necessary
[02:33] <gecko_> ignor that.. sorry wrong chat box
[02:34] <Rayy> osiris: so a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 stop should have worked in the first place
[02:34] <osiris>  ? never ran 4
[02:34] <gecko_> found a really nice 2 bedroom
[02:34] <osiris> again..^^^ wrong channel
[02:34] <gecko_> ahhh crap.. sorry again lol
[02:34] <Rayy> osiris: u dont use kde 4.1?
[02:35] <gecko_> ok.. i'm going to close this.. should help me out here :P
[02:35] <osiris> Rayy, i honestly dont know.  whatever is default with hardy
[02:35] <Rayy> osiris: that may be kde 3.5^^
[02:35] <osiris> i stopped doing all the fancy bleeding edge stuff a long time ago
[02:35] <Rayy> osiris: god i love kde 4.1, i was once a gnome fanboy
[02:35] <BluesKaj> kde3 is still default I think
[02:35] <osiris> if anything i would be running E17
[02:36] <Rayy> osiris: i hated kde to death
[02:36] <osiris> but im jst a lazy user now.  no time for the devel work anymore
[02:36] <osiris> i like the app base.  thats about it
[02:36] <osiris> gnome apps just seem featureless
[02:37] <Rayy> osiris: because u cant configure em as much
[02:37] <Rayy> osiris: but: kopete is so full with configurations and stuff
[02:37] <BluesKaj> kde4 is beyond my understanding and I don't think I'm thick headed , I just don't "get it " I guess.  :)
[02:37] <Rayy> osiris: that i gave up to act it like i want it to and installed pidgin^^
[02:37] <osiris> kopete, not a fan.  prefer pidgin
[02:38] <Rayy> osiris: it has a pretty annoying preconfiguration
[02:38] <Rayy> BluesKaj: kde 4 has grown userfriendly, thats it^^
[02:39] <osiris> BluesKaj, my biggest issue with hardy, is how the xorg.conf is completely trashed in hardy, and a lot of the "old ways of doing things" kinda got busted
[02:39] <Rayy> osiris: happened before
[02:39] <osiris> i had to get my xorg from a dapper install to get it right
[02:39] <BluesKaj> Rayy, well i guess I'll use it when I absolutely have to ..otherwise I prefer to wait til the time comes
[02:39] <Rayy> osiris: gutsy had the same problem: bullet proof xserver
[02:40] <Rayy> BluesKaj: some stuff isnt working correctly, like ark is piece of shit atm
[02:40] <Rayy> BluesKaj: but over all, ull like it ;)
[02:40] <osiris> language please
[02:41] <Rayy> bugged*
[02:41] <osiris> gotta keep it family
[02:41] <Rayy> will kde 4.1.1 be included in some external hardy sources?
[02:42] <osiris> prolly in a 3rd party repo i would guess
[02:42] <BluesKaj> Rayy, I tried it for 2 days ..couldn't figure out what "H" was going on
[02:42] <alistair> \quit
[02:42] <osiris>  /
[02:42] <Rayy> BluesKaj: had the same problem with 3.5, i rly got mad^^
[02:44] <Rayy> BluesKaj: but i still like gnome a lot
[02:46] <sountgun> anyone coul work chrome????
[02:47] <Rayy> sountgun: im very interested in this thing too
[02:47] <sountgun> !!!!!!!! i want chrome!!!
[02:47] <Rayy> sountgun: it seems to have very intelligent design
[02:48] <Rayy> sountgun: question is, if it works
[02:48] <sountgun> i love everything of Google and i saw the screenshots and i love it!!
[02:49] <sountgun> it's seems really fast!
[02:49] <Rayy> sountgun: but it will be only an alternative if it contains something like noscript and adblock plus
[02:50] <sountgun> i never liked Firefox!
[02:50] <Rayy> sountgun: and googles biggest business is ads
[02:50] <Rayy> sountgun: would be suicide to support something like this
[02:50] <sountgun> well i used Opera and never had issues with adds
[02:50] <Rayy> sountgun: i never liked opera :P
[02:51] <sountgun> well i never like Firefox xD
[02:51] <Rayy> sountgun: i guess konqui is using webkit too
[02:51] <Rayy> sountgun: but in kde 4.1 its a bit slow and bugged
[02:51] <sountgun> i don't like konqueror as web browser either
[02:52] <Rayy> sountgun: id prefer it to google though^^
[02:52] <sountgun> it's a lil' bit slow
[02:52] <Rayy> sountgun: it uses webkite, like chrome and safari
[02:52] <Rayy> kit*
[02:52] <sountgun> but i prefer google ^^ I LOve GOOGLE xD
[02:53] <Rayy> sountgun: they have a lot of software, that i wouldnt use
[02:53] <kurumin> hello!
[02:53] <sountgun> i have it must all! (picasa, earth...) xD
[02:54] <Rayy> sountgun: especially talk and mail are some bastards i guess
[02:56] <sountgun> i used gtalk
[02:57] <sountgun> nobody work chrome ?
[03:02] <sountgun> google chrome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:02] <BluesKaj> konq is fast if IPV6 is defeated
[03:04] <sountgun> google chrome
[03:05] <Rioting_pacifist> why bother with chrome when konqueror in kde4 will be faster and offer the same rendering?
[03:06] <Rioting_pacifist> not that i wont try it but not really worth the fuss its got for the it world maybe the buisness people should care, but not me
[03:08] <kurumin> google chrome?
[03:08] <sountgun> yes
[03:08] <damsterdam> but it's still not ready for linux. on the website they say that an engeneer team is working "hard" on it to make it available as soon as possible...
[03:09] <sountgun> google promises... i don't buy them
[03:09] <sountgun> they say the same with picasa
[03:09] <sountgun> ¬¬
[03:12] <Rayy> Rioting_pacifist: biggest problem for konqui atm is flash and crashes :P
[03:19]  * mortici is not a fan of konq
[03:20]  * mortici wishes konq would work right
[03:21] <sountgun> chrome... i gonna have to wait for years when google want to release chrome... xD
[03:22] <mortici> chrome is nice, but current browsers are a little more polished, give it some time and it could become damn good, the seperate process idea is very nice, and sandboxing
[03:23] <payne> is kubuntu better than ubuntu
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> No, it's exactly the same, other than the default desktop environment
[03:23] <osiris> matter of opinion
[03:24] <payne> are there more programs for kde
[03:24] <payne> than GNOME
[03:24] <osiris> wouldnt say that
[03:24] <osiris> just seems the apps have more features
[03:25] <osiris> to me anyhow
[03:25] <payne> KDE has more themes I think
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> KDE can run GTK apps and Gnome can run Qt apps
[03:26] <payne> kde apps better
[03:26] <payne> ?
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> The only differences you'll see in the programs will be how well they visually match the rest of the desktop environment
[03:27] <payne> hmm
[03:27] <payne> that sounds good
[03:28] <Rayy> payne: what do u expect of an desktop environment?
[03:29] <Rayy> payne: do u want it to be easy and open or complex and with gr8 configuration possibilities
[03:34] <payne> I just ordered kubuntu I like to have an awesome desktop  and runn all kde files and dual boot ubuntu
[03:34] <payne> possibley...
[03:36] <payne> any1 going to linux fest!
[03:38] <payne> lol
[03:38] <payne> whos going to linux fest?
[03:39] <payne> linux fest....
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[03:40] <payne> hi notriami
[03:41] <payne> hi....
[03:41] <darwin_> is there somewhere here to discuss intrepid?
[03:41] <payne> na
[03:41] <payne> idk what it is
[03:41] <notriamil> hello, i'm from Brazil
[03:42] <payne> hi I am from ATL
[03:42] <BluesKaj> ATL?
[03:43] <payne> Atlanta, Georgia U.S
[03:46] <shaffy> can anyone please tell me how or if it is possible to install kubuntu on my vista system, without having to burn it onto a cd?  i still want to be able go into the kubuntu setup manager and configure the partitions for dual boot.  is this possible?
[03:46] <Dragnslcr> darwin_- try #ubuntu+1
[03:47] <favro> !install | shaffy
[03:48] <shaffy> favro: thx.  i'll get on it.
[03:48] <favro> np
[03:48] <payne> shaffy?
[03:48] <shaffy> yes?
[03:49] <payne> oh thought i was program
[03:49] <shaffy> lol.. okay
[03:49] <payne> lol it
[03:50] <payne> xd
[03:50] <payne> zzzz.... falls asleep @ keyboard
[03:51] <payne> linux fest!!!
[03:51] <payne> on software freedom day
[03:53] <payne__> yay!
[03:53] <nergar> what packages do I need to develop in QT3?
[03:53] <payne__> qt3?
[03:53] <nergar> I get this error:
[03:53] <nergar> configure: error:
[03:53] <nergar> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[03:53] <nergar> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[03:53] <nergar> this is in Kdevelp
[03:55] <nergar> I also get this error: acinclude.m4:6022: the serial number must appear before any macro definition
[03:55] <nergar> what serial number???? is this a joke?
[04:00] <posingaspopular> hello all, i want to remove kde4 from a kubuntu hardy install and install kde3.5.9. what is the command to do this
[04:03] <notriamil> hello!
[04:03] <BluesKaj> posingaspopular, install kde3 first then depending how you installed kde4 , use the same method to uninstall
[04:03] <notriamil> olá!
[04:04] <posingaspopular> BluesKaj: the install was done with the kde4remix cd and is already done
[04:04] <sountgun> still nobody work chrome??
[04:05] <posingaspopular> sountgun: there is no linux version of chrome
[04:05] <sountgun> i mean with wine
[04:07] <posingaspopular> is the chan still #kubuntu-kde4
[04:08] <BluesKaj> yup
[04:09] <shaffy> if i have an AMD dual core x2, i should install the 64bit version of kubuntu, correct?
[04:10] <BluesKaj> shaffy , not necessarily ...I run 32 bit no my AMD 64 bit 3200+ CPU
[04:11] <BluesKaj> on
[04:11] <shaffy> BluesKaj: so what is the advantage/disadvantage?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> there are apps that won't run on 64 bit
[04:12] <BluesKaj> you can if you use ia32
[04:12] <shaffy> is there any performance difference?
[04:12] <MidnightCommando> BluesKaj: that's nonsense i'm afraid
[04:12] <MidnightCommando> shaffy: generally a 64-bit os on a 64-bit proc is faster.
[04:13] <MidnightCommando> also you can address more memory without the need for the HIGHMEM kernel patch and thus overhead.
[04:13] <Dragnslcr> Not much
[04:13] <BluesKaj> MidnightCommando, well you have your opinion, but my luck with 64 bit kubuntu's haven't been very good
[04:13] <Dragnslcr> Unless you have (and use) more than 4 GB of memory, you probably won't notice a performance difference
[04:13] <MidnightCommando> If you still need access to 32-bit apps like flashplayer, you can easily use multilib setups, which in ubuntu are probably packages like "emul-linux-x86-compat"
[04:13] <Dragnslcr> And incompatibility with apps can be a killer
[04:13] <BluesKaj> here comes the debate
[04:13] <MidnightCommando> Dragnslcr: I do ;)
[04:14] <shaffy> lol.. i'm glad i started it :S
[04:14] <MidnightCommando> BluesKaj: I'm not trying to turn it into a debate, sorry for saying it was nonsense, it's just I've never had any trouble with multilib
[04:14] <BluesKaj> Firefox used to crash a lot
[04:16] <MidnightCommando> :|
[04:16] <BluesKaj> my setup is rather mediocre hardware wise but I never noticed any adavantage speedwise with 64 bit on either linux or windows
[04:17] <BluesKaj> theoretically it's supposed to be faster maybe , but can one really tell ?
[04:18] <BluesKaj> anyway sacktime for old guys ...later
[04:18] <shaffy> bye
[04:40] <sountgun> still doesn't work chrome? xD
[04:43] <sountgun> google chrome
[04:44] <knic> I have two issues, first I am running a MS 4000 erganomic keyboard and if I hit the calculator button all volume  KMilo crashes, and then my volume keys stop working
[04:44] <knic> on a fresh boot on a live cd this doesn't happen, how do I have my settings get regnerated for my keyboard
[04:45] <knic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/42927/ is the backtrace
[04:46] <sountgun> chrome? when??? ahhhhh!!!
[04:46] <sountgun> i'm gonna cry
[04:46] <sountgun> xD
[04:47] <sountgun> chrome ¬¬
[04:53] <knic> the second issue I have is my forward and back buttons don
[04:53] <knic> t work on my mouse
[04:57] <knic> brb
[04:59] <sountgun> anyone could use chrome yet?
[05:02] <justyb> sountgun: what's your huge desire to run chrome?
[05:03] <sountgun> i test it mi sister's xp and i loveeeeeeeeeeeeeee it
[05:05] <justyb> Well just wait for it to be ported to Linux.  It uses WebKit andis open source so I don't see it beeing too long.  Maybe for a port of V8 the JS engine.
[05:05] <sountgun> umm
[05:06] <sountgun> umm
[05:20] <Sixzero> Hi guys.
[05:21] <Amko> pozz sixzero
[05:23] <Sixzero> I've got a question about compiling a driver if anyone's available...?
[05:24] <justyb> Sixzero: Okay I'll see what I can help you with before I head off
[05:26] <sountgun> chrome wow! it's really cool! now i see the wonder that google made! o_O
[05:26] <Sixzero> Thanks justyb.  I've got an odd onboard sound setup on my Shuttle box.  It's an SN68PTG6 Deluxe with HD Audio provided by Realtek.  There IS a driver on the Realtek site for linux, but I'm curious as to how to compile it.  I've tried sh install, considering that's the install script that came with the download, but I'm not sure if it's compiling correctly or what packages I would need to install in order to make it work.
[05:27] <justyb> Sixzero: Hmmm.
[05:27] <justyb> Sixzero: I'll have to make this ouick
[05:28] <justyb> Sixzero: Okay first try everything you can to get a binary driver
[05:28] <justyb> Sixzero: Compiling sucks and breaks everything
[05:29] <justyb> Sixzero: Unless you're the type to stay on top of your systems upgrades
[05:29] <Sixzero> The downloaded package comes with a .tar within the tar.bz2 that's labled as the alsa driver, but it's got a ton of folders within.  Would I find the binary driver within it?
[05:29] <justyb> Sixzero: Which, as far as the kernel goes, you'll have to keep up with your own patches if you compile your own driver
[05:30] <justyb> Sixzero: It is possible you'd find a binary driver there.
[05:30] <Rayy> kawapanga cyall
[05:30] <Guest44222> is kubuntu linux equiped with wine
[05:31] <Sixzero> not natively as far as I know, but you can download it from the Synaptic Package Manager.
[05:31] <Sixzero> or are you asking me if I have it?
[05:32] <Guest44222> where to get wine
[05:32] <fildo> Guest44222 install the package
[05:32] <justyb> Sixzero: Okay if you want to build a driver you will need kernel-sources and build
[05:34] <Sixzero> I have the sources, but I've tried building twice.  The first time it complained that it couldn't compile c++, so I downloaded a few packages from Synaptic and tried again.  I got farther, but I have no idea of what confirmation I would have that it finished successfully or not.
[05:35] <Sixzero> What command would I use to compile it?  sh install seems to get me somewhere, or am I doing this wrong?  (noob alert)
[05:36] <justyb> Basically when you make there should be no errors
[05:36] <Sixzero> I got one in particular both times I tried, gimme one sec and I'll paste what it told me.
[05:37] <justyb> The last couple of lines will say something like make: *** Error 1 blah blah blah
[05:38] <justyb> Sixzero: Now before we move on.  What is wrong are you getting no sound?
[05:39] <Sixzero> Yeah.  No sound.  No drivers, nothin.
[05:39] <justyb> Sixzero: You using Ubuntu?
[05:40] <Sixzero> I've read on a few forums that there were no drivers for my onboard, but I just recently found this package on the Realtek site through the Shuttle site.
[05:40] <Sixzero> Kubuntu 8.04.1 or whatever
[05:41] <Sixzero> The Gnome setup for my nvidia onboard acts all crazy on this comp, so I had more luck using KDE
[05:41] <mhl> haloo
[05:41] <Sixzero> Here's what it's telling me justy.....
[05:41] <justyb> Okay anyway.  Usually you can issue ./configure
[05:41] <Sixzero> configure: error: this packages requires a curses library
[05:41] <Sixzero> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:41] <Sixzero> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[05:41] <Sixzero> Remove Folder.....
[05:41] <Sixzero> install: 101: alsaconf: not found
[05:42] <justyb> Sixzero: Okay you need curses-dev
[05:42] <Sixzero> ./configure
[05:42] <Sixzero> oops, lol
[05:42] <mhl> squoodle
[05:42] <justyb> Sixzero: It also wouldn't hurt to have alsa-dev stuff too.
[05:43] <justyb> Sixzero: Some vendor make up there own install scripts
[05:43] <Sixzero> I grabbed it already, but I'm not so sure about the curses-dev.  I'm not seeing it in synaptic
[05:43] <Sixzero> I see libcunit1-ncurses-dev and libkaya-ncurses-dev
[05:45] <justyb> Sixzero: Curses is a library  try looking for it with the lib in front
[05:45] <justyb> Sixzero: libncurses
[05:45] <justyb> I think current version is 5
[05:45] <justyb> something
[05:45] <Sixzero> I already had libncurses, but not libncurses-dev.  is that what I wanted?
[05:46] <justyb> Sixzero: Is that what you wanted?  You need dev filesif you are going to build something.
[05:47] <Sixzero> I'm already rebuilding to see where it gets me.
[05:47] <justyb> Sixzero: You want to beild the driver then I guess that is what you need.
[05:47] <justyb> I'm not going to make it I can't type stright.
[05:48] <justyb> Must sleep.
[05:48] <Sixzero> Get to bed, friend.  I'm sure I can figure it out from here.  It looks like the curses-dev is what I needed help finding.  I appreaciate your help
[05:48] <justyb> Bye.
[05:48] <Sixzero> Laters.
[05:51] <sountgun> chrome....
[05:51] <sountgun> what's google wait for?
[05:52] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm not sure why, but ever since a recent update, Programs that have been closed hang around on my taskbar for a while
[05:52] <Seven_Six_Two> ooohh...and I just realized that I'm using the taskbar-compiz
[05:54] <Sixzero> bah, is there any way to get alsaconf in 8.04 or is it long gone now?
[05:55] <sountgun> what's gong on with chrome?
[05:57] <Sixzero> what's chrome?
[05:57] <chairman> how can i see the rotating cube in it's entirety?
[06:00] <sountgun> oogle chrome
[06:01] <Sixzero> ooh, pretty
[06:02] <sountgun> chrome
[06:02] <sountgun> chrome
[06:02] <chairman> i'm talking about the compiz cube
[06:02] <sountgun> CHROME!!!
[06:02] <sountgun> why google!!! why!!!
[06:02] <Sixzero> haha
[06:02] <sountgun> chrome i want it
[06:02] <sountgun> i want it
[06:02] <Sixzero> dl it then
[06:02] <knic> sountgun: you have done nothing but say chrome non stop, why don't you just play with konqueror and wait
[06:03] <Sixzero> or is it closed beta?
[06:03] <sountgun> i want chrome ¬¬
[06:03] <TerAnOx> hello, im noob at linux. anyone know how i change my keyboard output from english to swedish ?
[06:03] <sountgun> chrome
[06:04] <Sixzero> Bah hahaha
[06:04] <knic> is sountgun a bot?
[06:04] <Seven_Six_Two> idiotbot
[06:04] <Sixzero> I dunno, but he just reminded me of that dude from Super Troopers who said "meow" ten times.
[06:04] <chairman> how can i do the rotation cube effect?
[06:05] <Sixzero> which x are you using teranox?
[06:05] <Seven_Six_Two> chairman, you set the key bindings with compiz fusion config
[06:06] <Seven_Six_Two> chairman, it might be alt+ctrl+mouse1
[06:06] <TerAnOx> sixzero .. dont know my friend installed it for me .. how can i see ?
[06:06] <Sixzero> Are you in KDE?
[06:06] <TerAnOx> yes
[06:06] <Sixzero> Ok, click the little blue k in the bottom left corner of your screen.
[06:07] <Sixzero> click system settings
[06:07] <chairman> mouse1
[06:07] <Sixzero> then under the Personal list in the General tab, click Regional & Language
[06:07] <Seven_Six_Two> TerAnOx, it'll be in regional and accessibility
[06:07] <chairman> do i click left or right
[06:08] <Seven_Six_Two> chairman, mouse button 1. left click. you have to have the right compiz plugins enabled
[06:08] <Seven_Six_Two> try installing and running "compiz fusion icon"
[06:09] <Sixzero> Did you find it Teranox?
[06:09] <Seven_Six_Two> and it'll be click and drag
[06:10] <Seven_Six_Two> chairman, If you have the right plugins enabled, you should be able to use alt+ctrl+arrowright/arrowleft
[06:10] <TerAnOx> sixzero : yes thx
[06:10] <Sixzero> np
[06:16] <chairman> how do i see the whole cube?
[06:18] <chairman> got that . but how do you have the cube effect
[06:18] <chairman> like spinning l,r,u,d,sw,sw?
[06:26] <chairman> hello
[06:27] <_2> who knows usb stuff ?    i want to access a digital camera via cli
[06:27] <_2> not mass storage btw
[06:57] <_2> who knows usb stuff ?    i want to access a digital camera via cli   not a mass storage device btw.    anyone ?
[07:01] <shaffy> can someone tell me how to change my version of kubuntu from kde4 to the regular kde3?
[07:04] <jussi01> shaffy: install kubuntu-desktop
[07:05] <shaffy> jussie01:  thank you.  :)
[07:05] <jussi01> !tab | shaffy
[07:06] <shaffy> lol thanks :)
[07:07] <SAngeli> i, as I have to just perform some tests is there a way to setup Ubuntu with minimal mail services? Is there a guide or few steps I should perform?
[07:07] <jussi01> shaffy: just a note, installing that package will not uninstall kde4 - just install kde3, so you can choose at the login screen.
[07:07] <shaffy> jussi01: so, once i install kubuntu-desktop, and i uninstall kde4, will kubuntu automatically use kde3 at the default desktop, or do i need to configure this?
[07:08] <jussi01> shaffy: if you uninstall kde4, it should do that, yes.
[07:08] <shaffy> jussi01: perfect.  thank you.
[07:19] <Darkrift2> is there a way to make the taskbar buttons less transparent (they are hard to read on my taskbar background sometimes)
[07:22] <_2> right click configure
[07:24] <Darkrift2> ok, well adding "for transparancy" helped a little but I guess thats not something you can change. thx though, i hadnt found anytrhing there of use before
[07:28] <Kimppa> Hi. I just bought a new computer and I'd like to install kubuntu on it as well
[07:29] <Kimppa> but I'm having problems with the installer
[07:29] <Kimppa> I tried first the graphical installer, but after the loading bar, I got an "Buffer I/O error on device fd0"
[07:29] <Kimppa> then I tried the alternative installer and noticed that it fails to detect my cd/dvd-drive
[07:30] <Kimppa> apparently, it's missing drivers or something
[07:31] <Kimppa> the installer asks if I could give drivers on a floppy, but who has a floppy drive these days, aye
[07:31] <Kimppa> so, any ideas?
[07:34] <shaffy> i've never seen that before
[07:34] <shaffy> so you're doing a clean install?
[07:34] <Kimppa> yeah
[07:34] <shaffy> and you get into the installer?
[07:34] <Kimppa> yes
[07:34] <shaffy> where does the error occur?
[07:35] <Kimppa> in the graphical installer, right after I've selected the installers language and the loading screen appears, after this screen I get a console-like screen with the error message
[07:36] <Kimppa> the alternative installer was a bit more informative, it didn't give me that general error message, but said that it fails to detect the dvd-drive
[07:36] <shaffy> sorry, i have no idea.
[07:36] <Kimppa> btw, what's the location of a sata dvd drive (in port 2)? /dev/...?
[07:36] <favro> it might need a boot option - what is the brand and model Kimppa
[07:38] <_2> Kimppa most likely /dev/scd0   i think they use scsi emulation on the install cd's
[07:38] <sparr> What free and/or open source photo manager that runs on linux has the best integration with flickr?  I need to sort, resize, tag, and upload about 10k photos.  Good tagging functionality (hinting, autocomplete, cloud, etc) is imperative.
[07:39] <Kimppa> favro: Samsung SH-S223F/BEBN
[07:41] <favro> Kimppa: brand/model of the comp - sorry - not the drive
[07:42] <Kimppa> favro: I put it together myself
[07:42] <Kimppa> of various components
[07:42] <leon> ??
[07:42] <favro> Kimppa: nvidia chipsets?
[07:43] <Kimppa> yes
[07:46] <Kimppa> _2: there isn't a /dev/scd0
[07:49] <_2> you alredy said it wasn't detected ....  you think udev makes device nodes for things it doesn't see ?
[07:50] <_2> Kimppa look for the normal ide device nodes    ls /dev/hd?    see what that lists
[07:50] <_2> if it coughs out a b c or d  try that
[07:51] <_2> but last i messed with an install disk it did use scsi emulation,   and that caused problems on my system that has real scsi devices in it...
[07:53] <Kimppa> _2: nothing found with /dev/hd*, and besides, I don't have anything connected with ide, both my cd-drive and hard drive are connected with s-ata
[07:56] <alistair> Hi tried KDE4 found it too unstable - very pretty. Trying Kubuntu but even though its superior to Ubuntu having several problems maybe someone here can help with?
[07:56] <alistair> Superior looking I should have said!
[07:58] <jaakkome> Doesn't hurt to ask (I don't know much) :]
[08:01] <_2> Kimppa maybe  modprobe ide-cdrom   and see if it shows up   ?
[08:01] <_2> i have my doubts because that's a default test
[08:02] <_2> but you never know
[08:08] <alistair> Problems with Kubuntu not experienced with Ubuntu are that every checkbox on any program when clicked does not actuate for seconds if at all. Its very weird and I suspect something to do with graphics driver.
[08:09] <alistair> Another problem is networking - whereas Ubuntu worked superbly, Kubuntu does not seem to operate samba anywhere as well and in fact its a battle to see any shared folders between pc.
[08:09] <_2> alistair never has.   you have to [apply changes]  in kde.
[08:09] <alistair> _2, which problem are you addressing?
[08:10] <_2> first mentioned
[08:10] <_2> checkboxes never automagicly do anything   you are susposed to apply the changes
[08:10] <alistair> Crikey, you cannot see what you have checked so for example, when using Add/Remove programs this is quite a dicey exercise
[08:11] <alistair> _2,  I am a programmer!
[08:12] <_2> is that a boast or a confession ?
[08:12] <alistair> _2, its a confession - basically saying that yes, I understand what should be happening, and its not
[08:12] <sucrack> hi kubuntus...
[08:13] <alistair> When u check a checkbox it should check, not stay in a non-checked state
[08:13] <_2> alistair you mean the mouse input is delayed ?   oh.
[08:13] <alistair> yep exactly
[08:14] <alistair> sometimes it happens, sometimes not - Ubuntu on same pC didnt do this
[08:14] <sucrack> i have a problem, since i installed kubuntu 8.04 i only get blackscreen on all virtualconsoles and i haven't benn overcoming this issue; even upgrading to 8.04.1 don't fix it!!!
[08:14] <_2> i never had that problem so it's not a hardware issue unless it's something like i/o errors   cause i run kde on a p1 100mhz box.
[08:15] <alistair> Probably should approach the forums for this. though unfortunately, Kubuntu forum is much less active that Ubuntu - pity is I think Kubuntu is visually and in many ways superior to Ubuntu
[08:15] <_2> sucrack boot with kernel options  >>>  nosplash vga=normal    see what happens
[08:16] <_2> alistair i agree.
[08:16] <alistair> _2 I suppose I could stop compiz which was when it all started do you know how to stop it temporarily?
[08:16] <_2> alistair kwin --replace
[08:16] <_2> i thin
[08:17] <_2> k
[08:18] <underdog_> just installed kubuntu on a new system with a geforce 6150 LE; the maximum resolution i can choose is 800x600.. help anyone??
[08:18] <alistair> Tis weird - I just opened one program and clicked on checkboxes and it responded fine but if I use add/remove its a real pain.
[08:18] <jaakkome> alistair, I'm having some odd lag with samba as well - sometimes it does work however
[08:19] <sucrack> i'll try that... i'll be back soon....
[08:19] <alistair> jaakkome, I just had a thought the network issue could be caused by changing the i/o from a pci wifi card to a usb wifi interface
[08:20] <_2> alistair have you checked the bug reports on the add/remove thang ?
[08:20] <jaakkome> alistair, why would that only affect samba?
[08:20] <_2> alistair only mentioned because i think i heard someone saying "don't use that use adept"
[08:21] <OmgItsAShark> im currently running ubuntu on my older laptop right now
[08:21] <OmgItsAShark> and it is sloggy and slow and not working very well
[08:21] <alistair> _2, actually no.....now that u mention it adept does perform fine!! Good thinking my friend.
[08:21] <OmgItsAShark> i was told that kubuntu would run better on my lappy is that true?
[08:22] <_2> alistair and sorry to hear about the programming thing, hope you get over it ok.   :)))
[08:22] <alistair> OmgItsAShark, Hi my daughters love Ubuntu on their own old PC and I tried Kubuntu on it they said it ran slower
[08:22] <OmgItsAShark> really
[08:22] <OmgItsAShark> interesting
[08:22] <OmgItsAShark> anybody know how i can speed up ubuntu
[08:22] <alistair> _2, can take that on the chin NP
[08:23] <alistair> OmgItsAShark, how much memory is it running
[08:23] <OmgItsAShark> 512
[08:24] <OmgItsAShark> p3 600mhz
[08:24] <OmgItsAShark> 512 ram
[08:24] <jussi01> OmgItsAShark: Id suggest going for a lighter desktop - xfce or fluxbox
[08:24] <alistair> OmgItsAShark, should be fine as you already know. Are you really comparing apples with apples eg I have 3 machines here and get really short using my daughters because its a slower piece of hardware
[08:24] <OmgItsAShark> hahaha
[08:25] <OmgItsAShark> im just looking for something that doesnt take 7 min to start up and doesnt clog d own
[08:25] <OmgItsAShark> would those desktops have the same look and feel as ubuntu
[08:25] <jussi01> !xubuntu | OmgItsAShark
[08:26] <jussi01> OmgItsAShark: much the same, but with a slightly more basic feel to them.
[08:26] <jussi01> have a look at that site for screenshots
[08:26] <OmgItsAShark> ok ... and i would have to load it on a cd then install like ubuntu right??
[08:26] <jussi01> OmgItsAShark: no - you could do as the bot said...  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:27] <OmgItsAShark> would that install inside of ubuntu or would it just load on start up.. i am very new to linux
[08:28] <jussi01> OmgItsAShark: it will then give you an option at the login screen
[08:28] <OmgItsAShark> and this will run better on mylappy
[08:29] <jussi01> OmgItsAShark: yes, it uses less system resources :)
[08:29] <OmgItsAShark> awesome
[08:30] <OmgItsAShark> now will i select which one i wanna rrun like i would with a dual  boot similar to my desktop
[08:30] <jussi01> sort of - you select at the login screen
[08:31] <OmgItsAShark> ok cool
[08:31] <OmgItsAShark> and if i like it and want to remove ubuntu that will be possible right?
[08:31] <OmgItsAShark> without removing xubuntu
[08:33] <OmgItsAShark> ???
[08:45] <OmgItsAShark> how do i know whehn xubuntu is done
[08:50] <alistair> Ktorrent is this any good - im using it but seems very slow on d/l
[08:57] <starenka> hi, i'm quite used to software in ENGLISH, but i need czech locales ofr collation, time, etc... if i check those in KDECC, it seems ok - language english and time, money, calendat etc.. set to czech ones. but if i check on "locale" i see all set to en_US.UTF-8. whats the problem?
[09:13] <joe_> anyone on here know much about python?
[09:19] <joe_> hey, either of you two that just joined good with python?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> sorry I am not
[09:21] <joe_> damn... oh well, was worth a shot
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> try in #python
[09:22] <joe_> ...how do i get identified? (sorry, very new to irc)
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> !identify | joe_
[09:23] <joe_> ok, thanks for the help
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> np man
[09:25] <renato__> Hi, I could youe a help with fail2ban, it basically just doe not wok. when I install the package it does not create the file jail.conf and if I put in /etc/fail2ban a jail.conf which is working on another system, it just fail to restart without leaving any message in it's log
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> renato__: http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTOs
[09:32] <renato__> ActionParsnip: that is a guide, I mean, fail2ban behave differently on two systems 8.04 I have, on my servers if even fails to start with the jail.conf it comes with
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> renato__: then follow the guides to set it up. ive not used it but i found that
[09:37] <floown> hello
[09:38] <floown> I try to see these screencast http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modPage.asp?ID=532 but I don't have the right plugin, what's the package I should install?
[09:38] <floown> it seems to be .mov
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> renato__: looks like quicktime
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> floown: see above ^
[09:41] <renato__> ActionParsnip: what looks like quicktime?
[09:41] <renato__> fail2ban?
[09:43] <Asara> Hi, i've got a question about Reinstalling Kubuntu on a Dual Boot system. I tried to install kde 4.1 and it screwed up, after trying a few fixes mentioned in some forums apt-get became so messed up that i can't install/remove/purge anything with it. So how would i go about reinstalling Kubuntu without harming my windows partition?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> renato__: wrong target, sorry
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> Asara: shouldnt touch it at all
[09:46] <Asara> ActionParsnip: problem is, if i insert the kubuntu live/install cd and reboot it tries to shrink my windows partition even further. Clicking on manual just freezes the live cd, and then returns me to the partition setup...
[09:47] <Asara> so could i just erase the linux partitions with gparted and then try to install over that? or will grub just screw up
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Asara: just backup the data in /home (you should be any way) then remove the linux partitions
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Asara: then the installer will see the unallocated space and install to it
[09:48] <Asara> ok, thanks...and i won't have to touch grub in any way?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Asara: you will, as the config will be wiped. backup your menu.lst if you want
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Asara: then you can reinstate once you get back round
[09:52] <Asara> ok
[10:05] <error404notfoun1> I gave my system a name, say oldname, then after installation I did sudo hostname newname, even edited /etc/hosts and change oldname to newname, but its still oldname everywhere even on shell
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> kdesu kate /etc/hostname
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> error404notfoun1:  any better?
[10:13] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> hi FuriousGeorge
[10:13] <FuriousGeorge> adept keeps asking for my cd when i try to install ndis wrappewr
[10:13] <FuriousGeorge> even if i had it, i dont have a cd-rom in here
[10:13] <FuriousGeorge> i tried mounting a cd-image in /cdrom/ and no luck
[10:14] <error404notfoun1> ActionParsnip: I just reboot and now its works without doing that hostname thing :D\
[10:14] <ghostcube> FuriousGeorge: i may know what causes this
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> sweet
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> FuriousGeorge: remove the cd from youor repositories
[10:15] <FuriousGeorge> ActionParsnip: thanks, ill try that
[10:15] <ghostcube> ActionParsnip: yep that was it :)
[10:15] <ghostcube> heh
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> indeed, makes a tonne of sense
[10:15] <ghostcube> lol yes
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> FuriousGeorge: just comment it out so you can readd if you want
[10:48] <peaktop> гы
[10:49] <Pavlz> > i saw my own peronal e-mail: it's arrived a message that communicate to me: Free Software Foundation.Inc and GNU Software "25 years happy birthday" http://gnu.org
[11:18] <FuriousGeorge> for some reason ndiswrapper works only the first time i install the driver
[11:18] <FuriousGeorge> after i reboot i get no networking
[11:20] <favro> FuriousGeorge: there is something about that in one of these links I beleive
[11:20] <favro> !wireless
[11:21] <FuriousGeorge> favro: yeah, those are the steps i took to recreate the problem
[11:22] <favro> ohh
[11:31] <favro> FuriousGeorge: http://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/ubuntu/ubnet_m/ub_wirless - about halfway down for ndiswrapper - I don't use wireless myself
[11:33] <mrxmike> i just connected my webcam, i would like to make a picture with it
[11:33] <mrxmike> but what software can i use with it?
[11:34] <mrxmike> lsusb says its: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 093a:2603 Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[11:36] <FuriousGeorge> favro: i was able to follow the docs last time...  what i have is a bug, i get the concept of what's going on
[11:39] <mrxmike> ahhh got it, its /dev/video1 ./... (video0 points to my tv card)
[11:40] <favro> FuriousGeorge: to get it working after each boot you need to - quote "adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper " kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[11:41] <favro> FuriousGeorge: that site wasn't too specific about that
[11:42] <FuriousGeorge> favro: ill try that
[11:42] <favro> k
[11:54] <blackie> anyone involved with launchpad + KDE 4.1 here?
[11:55] <ghostcube> try kde4 channel
[11:55] <ghostcube> !kde4
[11:55] <blackie> I'm lacking modules for Qt SQL lite channels
[11:55] <blackie> tyhx
[11:57] <glubbdrubb> hi there
[11:57] <mrxmike> how can i see what kernel module is loaded for a specific usb device?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> mrxmike: lsmod
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> i think
[12:01] <mrxmike> k, thanks :)
[12:02] <FuriousGeorge> i followed the ubuntu wirless docs, and got ndiswrapper installed, fed it a windows driver, and wireless started working.  the i rebooted
[12:02] <FuriousGeorge> the module is loaded, the interface exists, but "no wireless networks found" in knetworkmanager
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> so in ifconfig you see wlan0?
[12:02] <FuriousGeorge> the only way to get it working seems to be to uninstall the driver, reboot the computer, and reinstall the driver
[12:03] <FuriousGeorge> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:03] <FuriousGeorge> the reboot trick only works until the subsequent reboot
[12:03] <FuriousGeorge> then im back at square one
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> FuriousGeorge: if you lsmod, is ndiswrapper loaded?
[12:03] <FuriousGeorge> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> ok, id try manually editing /etc/network/interfaces to see if it'll connect
[12:05] <FuriousGeorge> ActionParsnip: i cant seem to find an example interfaces file with wpa...  you know where google is hiding that?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> FuriousGeorge: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> FuriousGeorge: id try getting it connected without wpa (disable it in the router)
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> FuriousGeorge: just so we know its all ok
[12:14] <FuriousGeorge> ActionParsnip: i know its fine.  i have a kubuntu laptio which worked out of the box
[12:14] <FuriousGeorge> *laptop
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> FuriousGeorge: no, i meant to test the setup you are configuring. we dont know that is ok do we
[12:25] <berkes> my oh my, some spamnetwork decided to abuse my domain as from: I am getting like 1400 mails per hour right now. Good news is that kontact/kmail crashed only once :)
[12:25] <faileas> ;p
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> berkes: create a rule to send them back to the sender if its from that address ;)
[12:27] <berkes> I am getting all the bounces.
[12:31] <bernhard_> hi, im having a serious problem :D
[12:32] <bernhard_> actually i dont have a gui right now
[12:32] <ghostcube> !ask
[12:32] <bernhard_> ghostcube i know
[12:32] <ghostcube> bernhard_: ups
[12:32] <ghostcube> how comes
[12:32] <KalThaeden[EK]> msg NickServ identify yk93sys
[12:32] <bernhard_> i tried to install the new nvidia driver
[12:32] <bernhard_> and it actually worked
[12:33] <bernhard_> but now it kubuntu 8.04 (kde 4.1) cant start it somehow
[12:33] <ghostcube> bernhard_: what happens if u type in terminal startx
[12:33] <ghostcube> is there any error
[12:33] <bernhard_> yes
[12:33] <bernhard_> unable to connect to xserver
[12:34] <ghostcube> are u root ?
[12:34] <bernhard_> lol sec
[12:34] <bernhard_> yes
[12:34] <bernhard_> it says: no screens found, giving up
[12:34] <ghostcube> ok thats better heh
[12:34] <bernhard_> actually im using the repo driver right now
[12:34] <ghostcube> lsmod | grep nvidia
[12:34] <bernhard_> ive uninstalled the nvidia driver
[12:35] <ghostcube> ahh so u have installed the new one without uninstalling rwepo one
[12:35] <ghostcube> oh ok
[12:35] <bernhard_> and installed the old with sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new
[12:35] <bernhard_> no
[12:35] <ghostcube> i get it
[12:35] <bernhard_> ive uninstalled the old one first
[12:35] <ghostcube> yep
[12:35] <bernhard_> then installed the driver from the nvidia homepage
[12:35] <bernhard_> now ive done the same the other way round
[12:35] <ghostcube> have u blacklistet the nvidia modul in restricted modules to be sure its not being loaded
[12:36] <bernhard_> ghostcube it always worked
[12:36] <ghostcube> bernhard_: and now u cant get an gui ?
[12:36] <bernhard_> i dont think that theres a blacklist
[12:36] <bernhard_> exactly
[12:36] <ghostcube> so u now in terminal ? irssi ?
[12:36] <bernhard_> bitchx
[12:36] <bernhard_> :P
[12:36] <ghostcube> oh ok
[12:36] <ghostcube> 'sudo modprobe nvidia' says what
[12:37] <bernhard_> i guess i know what the problem is
[12:37] <ghostcube> bernhard_: kannst du deutsch
[12:37] <bernhard_> ja
[12:37] <ghostcube> komm mal in german channel
[12:37] <ghostcube> :D
[12:37] <bernhard_> #kubuntu-de?`
[12:37] <ghostcube> jo
[12:52] <Heretic_spb> Hello all, anybody was working with FreeNX + Java?
[12:52]  * faileas thought it had its own client?
[12:57] <freaky[t]> hi all. i recently installed kubuntu and would like to know how to enable java support for firefox for example can someone help me?
[12:59] <faileas> freaky[t]: install sun-java6-plugin
[13:33] <markus_> hello
[13:34] <Alex135> markus_: hi
[13:34] <markus_> I typed a lot of notes into my kontact. they all dissapeared. do I need to store them somehow?
[13:35] <Alex135> you shouldn't need too
[13:35] <Alex135> did you deleat the .kde folder at some point?
[13:36] <markus_> not that i know of
[13:36] <Alex135> hmmm
[13:36] <Alex135> well they should have stayed on there
[13:36] <markus_> it is very weared to mee to
[13:36] <Alex135> perhaps a kid or someone did something they shouldn't have
[13:36] <Alex135> :p
[13:37] <markus_> lol. they have their own computer...
[13:37] <Alex135> doesn't mean kids arn't a little mischevious
[13:38] <markus_> thanks... I will have to search for answers to my problem
[13:38] <garthounet> quelqun peut me guider sur la chaine francaise merci
[13:39] <Pici> !fr | garthounet
[13:39] <garthounet> merci
[13:56] <JuJuBee> When I try to click on the Adept_Notifier, I get a message telling me something is using the Packaging System, but nothing else is.
[13:57] <stdin> !aptfix | JuJuBee
[13:57] <Sixzero> You don't have anything else like synaptic open or the adept updater?
[13:57] <JuJuBee> nope.
[13:57] <JuJuBee> stdin : thanks.
[13:59] <JuJuBee> My classroom was empty all summer and I just got back to this. Don't recall it crashing before summer break.
[13:59] <Sixzero> did you update when you got back?
[14:00] <Sixzero> before the crash i mean?
[14:08] <administrator> hey all
[14:08] <administrator> i've found a bug in kubuntu / ndiswrapper
[14:09] <administrator> who do i report it to?
[14:09] <Pici> !bugs | administrator
[14:14] <luis> hi
[14:14] <administrator> o_O...  even lauchpad has bugs " Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. "
[14:14] <luis> I hate linux
[14:14] <luis> and you?
[14:20] <olhat> I've used p2p tv mostly Sopcast and TVUplayer practically round the clock while at home in Windows.  Does anything similar exist for Linux or something that works with Crossover?  Sopcast latest version does not work with CrossOver.
[14:21] <Omoikane__> Anyone know how to get photos out of a flash photo gallery?
[14:23] <JuJuBee> sixzero, no just came in and found the notifier (as expected) and tried to update.
[14:23] <JuJuBee> Got it working now.
[14:40] <FuriousGeorge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/264340  <-- my first bug report
[14:40] <Nece228> what can i expect in kubuntu 8.10?
[14:45] <Nece228> what can i expect in kubuntu 8.10?
[14:48] <JuJuBee> I have 7.04 on my server, do I have to upgrade to 7.10 before 8.04?
[14:48] <Nece228> yes
[14:49] <JuJuBee> Crap.
[14:49] <kataklysm54> la chaine francaise sil vous plait merci
[14:49] <Nece228> you better download 8.04.1 iso disks
[14:49] <Pici> !fr | kataklysm54
[14:50] <ghostcube> JuJuBee: is this pure server image
[14:51] <JuJuBee> Not running a heavy duty server, just a classroom with 15 computers.  WWW, MySQL, Squid/DansGuardian, iptables
[14:51] <JuJuBee> Don't want to a complete reinstall from CD
[14:52] <JuJuBee> Especially the day before students come in.
[15:16] <maurizio> hi!!
[15:17] <ayram7> where is the IRC in Spanish?
[15:17] <Maxa> !es
[15:17] <ayram7> Tanks! ;)
[15:18] <Maxa> no problem
[15:18] <bazhang> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[15:19] <gc_> hi all
[15:19] <gc_> i need some help on my kubuntu.
[15:20] <gc_> can somebody help me?
[15:24] <bazhang> gc_, what is the question
[15:25] <gc_> i looking for something like deepfreeze for my kubuntu and billing for my cybercafe using kubuntu
[15:26] <bazhang> !equivalents | gc_ you can check here
[15:39] <kataklysm54> canal francais stp
[15:40] <gc_> i looking for something like deepfreeze for my kubuntu and billing for my cybercafe using kubuntu
[15:40] <kataklysm54> le lien pour la chaine francaise sil vous plait
[15:40] <gc_> can somebody help me?
[15:40] <kataklysm54> francais
[15:40] <kataklysm54> merci
[15:41] <trappist> !fr
[15:52] <^grand_champa^> i looking for something like deepfreeze for my kubuntu and billing for my cybercafe using kubuntu
[15:52] <^grand_champa^> can somebody help me?
[16:00] <servbiblio> Bom dia!
[16:02] <servbiblio> Hi!Can you hel me?
[16:03] <servbiblio> Hello pablo! can you help me?
[16:04] <pablo> how?
[16:06] <Guest84682> How stable is kbuntu in 64Bit? I have a AMD athlon(tm) 64 dual x2 core processor. should I dl the standard x86 or get the 64 bit kbuntu?
[16:07] <^grand_champa^> i need some programs like autorecovery after restarting for my kubuntu
[16:07] <schmidtm> jwnum: u only need 64 bit if u have more than 4 gig ram
[16:08] <jwnum> Thank you schmidtm. I only have 1GB of ram.
[16:09] <schmidtm> jwnum: so no need for 64 bit anyway it is quite stable
[16:17] <sountgun> nobody coul work google chrome ??
[16:17] <compilerwriter> Ladies and Gents I have a strange problem that I can't seem to figure out.  For some reason in kde3 my keyboard quit working.  I am now being forced to use kde4 to be able to use my keyboard.  Any ideas?
[16:19] <sountgun> nobody work chrome?
[16:20] <viros> good afternoon
[16:20] <viros> can you help me?
[16:21] <denis_> ?
[16:22] <denis_> what can i do?
[16:22] <servbiblio> Hello!
[16:22] <servbiblio> I need a help
[16:22] <denis_> what?
[16:22] <viros> i'd like install on my notebook the integrated webcam
[16:23] <viros> list #ubuntu
[16:23] <servbiblio> I need to connect a client to FreNX
[16:23] <viros> list #ubuntu*
[16:24] <servbiblio> ?
[16:25] <jussi01> !find freenx
[16:27] <mistrnole> Hello, new to Linux here. I'm wondering if someone could suggest an IRC client. I'm using one of my default installed ones called KSirc and would like something with more features to it.
[16:27] <jussi01> mistrnole: konversation is nice
[16:28] <jussi01> mistrnole: what features are you after?
[16:29] <compilerwriter> !emerald
[16:29] <mistrnole> Thank you Jussi, I have that one installed too I just realized I'm going to check it out.
[16:29] <jussi01> :)
[16:45] <^grand_champa^> i need cybercafe billing and auto recovery (like deepfreeze) on my kubuntu. can anybody help me?
[16:45] <timmalos> salut tout le monde
[16:46] <timmalos>  min a me consacrer ici?
[16:46] <timmalos> ya un francais qui a 2 min a me consacrer ?
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[16:49] <concernedcitizen> looks like somebody's gonna get a hurt real bad
[16:49] <sountgun> nobody still work chrome?
[16:49] <Glady>  oui?
[16:50] <[ifroog]> lol
[16:50] <[ifroog]> concernedcitizen, reminds me of a standup comedian.
[16:51] <Pici> timmalos: are you done?
[16:51] <[ifroog]> russell peters
[16:52] <Glady> je parle francais
[16:52] <Glady> .
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[16:53] <Glady> je parle francais
[16:53] <Glady> je parle francais
[16:53] <Glady> je parle francais
[16:53] <Glady> je parle francais
[16:53] <Glady> je parle francais
[16:53] <Glady> je parle francais
[16:53] <Glady> je parle francais
[16:53] <Glady> .
[16:53] <Glady> je parle francais
[16:53] <[ifroog]> Glady, Common on you can do better.
[16:53] <[ifroog]> :)
[16:58] <kataklysm54> chaine francaise sil vous plait merci
[16:58] <kataklysm54> francais stp
[16:58] <kataklysm54> french
[16:58] <kataklysm54> francais
[16:59] <kataklysm54> personne ne peut envoyer le lien?
[16:59] <kataklysm54> french station bitte
[16:59] <kataklysm54> please
[17:00] <eleckttruss> mi computador solo detecta 3 gb de los 4gb de ram que debo hacer?
[17:00] <kataklysm54> le chaine francaise sil vous plait envoyer le lien stp
[17:00] <kataklysm54> pfff
[17:04] <jussi01> !fr | kataklysm54
[17:10] <Reed_Solomon> is there a channel just for intrepid issues?
[17:11] <Pici> Reed_Solomon: #ubuntu+1
[17:11] <^grand_champa^> i need cybercafe billing and auto recovery (like deepfreeze) on my kubuntu. can anybody help me?
[17:13] <Reed_Solomon> thanks
[17:27] <kataklysm54> la chaine francaise sil vous plait
[17:28] <kataklysm54> sil vous plait
[17:28] <jpds> !fr
[17:31] <Zal0m0n> hi
[18:02] <ahmos> hi, in adept what is the purging option
[18:03] <RurouniJones> remove a package and all it's depdendencies
[18:03] <RurouniJones> and config files I think
[18:03] <RurouniJones> its rather
[18:04] <roldyx> somebody use kscope?
[18:05] <ahmos> thank you RurouniJones but anyone upgraded to kde 3.5.10 and kicker crashed?
[18:07] <roldyx> I need use kscope.. but i dont understand it
[18:10] <kjell_> Hi Kubuntu is new to me but Iḿ interested to learn! How do I add a new account?
[18:10] <ahmos> new account for what?
[18:11] <kjell_> To use the same PC and installation of Kubuntu.
[18:11] <ahmos> you mean a new user
[18:11] <kjell_> yes you are rght!
[18:12] <roldyx> adduser <user>
[18:12] <ahmos> open kcontrol then choose system administartion the user management
[18:13] <kjell_> Ok thanks !!
[18:13] <ahmos> ;)
[18:13] <roldyx> kjell_: adduser <user> <<--- it is very very easy
[18:18] <kjell_> thanks roldyx and ahmos I managed to add a new user :)
[18:23] <lakshmanan> hi.. i want to do gtk+ programming in kubuntu...how do i do it ?
[18:24] <andre_> download kdevelop
[18:26] <lakshmanan> i actually switched from gnome...there i just downloaded some libraries like libgtk2-dev and did that... here i downloaded them..still when i compile.. it gave me a compile error like "gtk not in the path of pkg-config" now what should i do
[18:26] <lakshmanan> please help
[18:27] <reef> nadie habla español acá?
[18:28] <FoxIII> ubottu,  !esp
[18:28] <FoxIII> ubottu,  !spanish
[18:29] <lakshmanan> ubottu, how do i do gtk+ programming in kde
[18:29] <FoxIII> ubottu,  gtk
[18:31] <reef> gracias  ubottu, eres un genio
[18:32] <FoxIII> Hey! I was the genius, not the bot :(
[18:36] <jussi01> FoxIII: thats when you do this:
[18:36] <jussi01> ubottu: tell FoxIII about yourself
[18:37] <FoxIII> I know that, but reef wouldn't have known unless I used the tool.
[18:37] <FoxIII> ubottu,  you're a tool
[18:37] <FoxIII> Well you should. Cos you are.
[18:37] <jussi01> FoxIII: watch it, thats my girl...
[18:37] <FoxIII> I rest my case your honor.
[18:38] <jerome_> hi all
[18:38] <jussi01> Hi jerome_
[18:39] <steve555> Hi everyone.
[18:39] <jerome_> hi steve555
[18:39] <steve555> Hi jerome_
[18:40] <jerome_> can i ask for a question
[18:40] <jerome_> ia have a problem but i don't know how to solv it
[18:41] <jerome_> i want to shutdown my server from my office
[18:41] <jerome_> i can't connect to it with a ssh session
[18:41] <steve555> Can you log into it remotely?
[18:42] <jerome_> because the firewall of the entreprise block it
[18:42] <jerome_> no
[18:42] <jerome_> this is the problem
[18:42] <jerome_> i can start it with wake on lan
[18:42] <skinnymg1> hello people
[18:43] <steve555> Hi skinnying1
[18:43] <skinnymg1> quick question
[18:43] <jerome_> connect to my ftp server with the broswer, impossible with a ftp client ( proxy )
[18:43] <jerome_> to get file
[18:43] <jerome_> but impossible to shutdown
[18:43] <jussi01> skinnymg1: ask!
[18:43] <jerome_> skinnymg1: .... yes
[18:44] <skinnymg1> is there any apps out there that will allow me to install mac apps under kubuntu
[18:44] <jerome_> skinnymg1: have you ever to kde-apps.org?
[18:44] <jerome_> to look?
[18:45] <jussi01> skinnymg1: not that I know of - you mean wine for mac apps type thing?
[18:46] <jerome_> steeve555 have you a idea for my question?
[18:48] <djg9282> I just recently updated the kernal because it prompted me in adept for the update...after i did it...i lost my sound...how can i install that update i think it was 2.24-19 that is causes the problems...when i go back to the 18 one..my sound is fine
[18:48] <djg9282> how can i uninstall that update rather
[18:48] <jerome_> steeve555 precision, i have no problem on my server, i can log into it from every where, the problem is from my office
[18:48] <jussi01> djg9282: just select the 18 in grub...
[18:49] <djg9282> i did, but then everytime it boots up it then goes back to 19
[18:49] <jerome_> djg9282: you just update the kernel or something else?
[18:49] <djg9282> i don't want to keep on selecting it everytime at bootup
[18:49] <kjell_> is it possibble to run limwire under kubuntu?
[18:50] <djg9282> it was just lately it was on the updates....it had three updates...one was linux headers...they all had the updated version # in them
[18:50] <Pici> !limewire
[18:50] <skinnymg1> yes im trying to get where i can run reason on my machine
[18:50] <kjell_> Thanks guys!
[18:51] <jerome_> djg9282: you can remove it manually
[18:51] <djg9282> can you direct me how to do that?
[18:51] <jerome_> ok, in private windows
[18:51] <djg9282> sure
[18:52] <djg9282> hmm
[18:58] <sountgun> google chrome, i'm waiting... , why can't work with wine? why!!!??
[18:58] <Tm_T> bah
[18:59] <Tm_T> http://code.google.com/chromium/
[19:01] <Tm_T> http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux
[19:01] <Tm_T> etc
[19:02] <RurouniJones> I don't really understand the furore surrounding chrome, it is a browser with per process tabs and a faster JS engine...that is about it. Am I missing something?
[19:03] <kathy> anyone use kopete on kde 4.1?
[19:03] <Tm_T> RurouniJones: prolly brainless hype, but that slips slowly to offtopic I guess
[19:03] <jussi01> kathy: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4
[19:04] <kathy> thank you jussi
[19:06] <Daisuke_Ido> RurouniJones: and a draconian EULA that says anything you do with it becomes google's property.  thanks but no thanks.  once they revise that (and they will) i might try
[19:07] <tdn> How do I get on with this problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/43858 I cannot the drivers for my Ralink USB Wireless network adaptor to work properly. I suspect a bug in the kernel image provided by Ubuntu mirrors. Please help me on this.
[19:07] <Daisuke_Ido> RurouniJones: the important bit about per-process tabs is...  say you're watching a youtube video on one tab, and have other things going on in other tabs.  flash takes a nosedive.  instead of taking the browser down, it just takes that tab.  this is a pretty useful concept.
[19:08] <jussi01> !ot > Myrtti
[19:10] <jussi01> !ot > me
[19:12] <alistair> Good morning I need help with Global hotkeys
[19:18] <juan_> hello
[19:31] <bdizzle> how do I check to see which version of the kernal I currently have through GUI and CLI?
[19:31] <Pici> bdizzle: uname -a
[19:32] <bdizzle> ah, thanks
[19:45] <denis> 1de
[19:45] <fabiano> alguém pode me ajudar?
[19:45] <denis> !de
[19:45] <Pici> !br | fabiano
[19:54] <denis> hello, anyone familiar with Adept?
[19:54] <denis> I have the problem that it starts without asking the pw
[19:55] <denis> I wanted to install printer drivers but I don't want to risk locking the database or getting other problems
[20:04] <sorin_> #ubuntu-ro
[20:10] <Pepito1> hola
[20:11] <bab> How can I switch the terminals in a screen session that ist part of a screen session?
[20:13] <trappist> bab: change the control key for one of the screen sessions, so you can use like ctrl-b instead of ctrl-a
[20:13] <ninuuz> hi
[20:14] <bab> Okay, I found it C-a a works for sending C-a to the window.
[20:14] <ninuuz> can anyone help me with installing openoffice 3 beta ? :)
[20:15] <HighHo> ninuuz: just download the deb file and use that to install
[20:16] <ninuuz> HighHo, it wont work, inside the tar.gz is many .deb files.
[20:19] <HighHo> ninuuz: they should be all the diffrent components, extract them all into a new folder, open konsole and run "dpkg -i  ooo*"
[20:19] <ninuuz> ok
[20:19] <HighHo> add "sudo" first :)
[20:20] <ninuuz> thanks HighHo, seems to work.
[20:21] <HighHo> ninuuz: Your welcome
[20:22] <BuG3R> hi people
[20:23] <BuG3R> Im am new to Linux, could some one explain how ti install Drivers on U3S?
[20:23] <ninuuz> HighHo, how do I use it ?
[20:24] <HighHo> ninuuz: you should be able to fine it on your menu if it all installed
[20:25] <ninuuz> it is in opt/  .. but not in the menu :s
[20:26] <Reformer81> Is it possible to somehow burn the Ubuntu CD iso to a DVD (maybe convert the CD iso to DVD?)?
[20:28] <HighHo> ninuuz: what version of kde are you running?
[20:29] <ninuuz> 3.5
[20:30] <HighHo> ninuuz: Menu may have not updated in konsole try running: oowriter
[20:30] <ninuuz> ooohh
[20:30] <ninuuz> somethings wrong with the .deb's
[20:32] <HighHo> ninuuz: Might be worth seeking further support in the openoffice channel: #openoffice.org
[20:36] <sourcemaker> is there a new kde4  release available?
[20:37] <sourcemaker> problem solved :-) RTFM :-)
[20:40] <darkwizzard_> hello
[20:40] <darkwizzard_> doens't kubuntu have phonon packages for qt4.4 ?
[20:40] <darkwizzard_> I want to compile my app
[20:40] <darkwizzard_> and I get this
[20:40] <darkwizzard_> error: phonon: No such file or directory
[20:40] <darkwizzard_> and yes, I did ask in #qt
[20:45] <HighHo> darkwizzard_: Its libphonon-dev that you will need
[20:45] <darkwizzard_> I have it installed
[20:45] <darkwizzard_> libphonon-dev is already the newest version.
[20:47] <darkwizzard_> Qt4 used to have modules in packages titled like libqt4-sql-sqlite
[20:47] <darkwizzard_> libqt4-webkit
[20:47] <darkwizzard_> etc
[20:49] <dchf> hola a todos
[20:50] <HighHo> darkwizzard_: Not really sure what the issue is, can you rephrase your question as to what you are trying and the error?
[20:50] <darkwizzard_> the guys at Qt told me this was a packaging error in Debian
[20:50] <darkwizzard_> and also in Ubuntu
[20:50] <darkwizzard_> I can't use phonon with qt4
[20:50] <darkwizzard_> when I develop my apps
[20:51] <darkwizzard_> there is no phonon module package
[20:53] <HighHo> darkwizzard_: Sorry beyond me if its not included ib the phonon-dev pacakge or libqt4-dev. Hope someone else can help you.
[20:54] <darkwizzard_> ok, thanks anyway :)
[20:55] <Twen> Hi
[20:56] <Twen> I have a question: how can I know if I am using webkit or khtml as renderer on my kubuntu 4.1 box?
[20:58] <kataklysm54> la chaine francaise stp
[20:58] <kataklysm54> francais
[20:58] <kataklysm54> french
[20:58] <kataklysm54> chaine francaise merci
[20:58] <kataklysm54> sil vous plait envoyer moi le lien
[20:58] <kataklysm54> le canal francais
[20:58] <jerome_> kataklysm54:  tu veux quoi?
[20:58] <kataklysm54> le lien pour aller sur le canal francais
[20:58] <kataklysm54> a moin ke tu peut maider
[20:59] <kataklysm54> jerome?
[20:59] <jerome_> ben j'en sais rien pose ta question
[20:59] <kataklysm54> t la?
[20:59] <jerome_> ouais je suis là
[20:59] <kataklysm54> jai une quickcam logitech
[20:59] <kataklysm54> mais jarive pas a linstaller
[20:59] <kataklysm54> il la detecte pas
[20:59] <jussi01> !fr
[20:59] <jerome_> kataklysm54:  attend on se fou en privé
[20:59] <kataklysm54> ok parle moi
[20:59] <jussi01> jerome_: kataklysm54 only english in here please
[21:00] <kataklysm54> rooooooooo
[21:00] <kataklysm54> kec ki me dit lui
[21:00] <jussi01> kataklysm54: type: /join #kubuntu-fr
[21:01] <kataklysm54> tsssssss
[21:03] <Twen> I have a question: how can I know if I am using webkit or khtml as renderer on my kubuntu 4.1 box?
[21:03] <jussi01> Twen: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:04] <jussi01> :)
[21:04] <Twen> thanks
[21:14] <stoffer> I'm trying to install a Canon MX300 printer, and I'm on linuxprinting.org, which has the correct driver.  However, there are multiple DEB packages for different LSB versions.  How do I know which one I have?
[21:28] <ryokan> Once in every lifetime
[21:28] <vassili> #kubuntu-ru
[21:35] <Zn3t076> Does anyone know how to add a startup script
[21:37] <Zn3t076> anyone
[21:37] <Zn3t076> ?
[21:37] <vassili> hi
[21:38] <vassili> where are you from?
[21:38] <Zn3t076> im from the UK
[21:38] <Zn3t076> why ?
[21:38] <vassili> cool// Im from estonia
[21:38] <Zn3t076> cool.
[21:38] <Zn3t076> Can you help me
[21:39] <vassili> may be
[21:39] <vassili> ?? what about?
[21:40] <stoffer> is anyone available to help me setup my printer?
[21:40] <vassili> i use linux 2 month, im not profi
[21:40] <vassili> what model?
[21:40] <Hamra> if you want a sript that runs while booting, during usplash, i can't be of any help, but you can put a script in /home/$USER/.kde/Autostart
[21:40] <vassili> Ubuntu?
[21:41] <Hamra> this way it starts when you log in
[21:41] <Zn3t076> i want to create a script in my /etc/rc?.d/ as S92StaticRoutes ... and link them to my file /etc/init.d/staticroute , but when i do this it doesnt create the static routes ??
[21:41] <senorpedro> hi folks
[21:42] <senorpedro> how can i find out which mainboard with which chipset is in my computer??
[21:42] <Zn3t076> i really want seperate scripts
[21:42] <Zn3t076> lshw
[21:43] <Zn3t076> lshw -C motherboard ... i think
[21:43] <Hamra> sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/staticroute /etc/rc?.d/S92StaticRoutes
[21:43] <senorpedro> thx Zn3t076
[21:43] <Zn3t076> no worries
[21:43] <Hamra> but scripts in /etc/init.d usually need to be followed by "start"
[21:44] <Zn3t076> i think thats where i might be going wrong...
[21:44] <Zn3t076> ive create the init file and linked it to all the other files with ln.... but in the script I have put just the routes that I want to add...
[21:47] <Zn3t076> anyone
[21:47] <vassili> hi
[21:47] <Zn3t076> hi
[21:49] <Hamra> the topic needs to be changed, KDE 4.1.1 is now the newest KDE4 release in Kubuntu
[21:49] <Jammu> can some body help me whit my wireless?
[21:51] <Jammu> wifi help any one???
[21:51] <stevan_> how can I force my window (game) to keep the mouse inside of it, and to capture all keyboard clicks? I am using dualscreen and having a issue when my mouse goes to the other screen.
[21:53] <illmortal> Hey guys... what's a good app for windows to remote connect to Kubuntu?
[21:54] <jussi01> Hamra: no, it doesnt. the kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 as the topic says
[21:54] <bwv544> hi, someone can help me to mount a HD ?
[21:55] <Hamra> iwas talking about the "KDE 4.1 released! http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1"
[21:55] <HighHo> !mount
[21:56] <HighHo> !DiskMounter | bwv544
[21:56] <Hamra> illmortal: i heard VNC can do this, never tried it though
[21:57] <bwv544> i'm in disk/filesys ; I can see the disks but without partitions ; it propose "new" ; then ?
[21:58] <HighHo> bwv544: Is it a brand new hard drive that has not been used yet?
[21:59] <bwv544> not properly ; i have 3 hd on my pc
[21:59] <will_> can i ask you guys one question please?
[21:59] <bwv544> but the 2nd and 3rd without partitions automatically recognized
[22:00] <HighHo> bwv544: open a konsole window and run "sudo fdisk -l"
[22:01] <bwv544> let me try
[22:01] <will_> what are the popularity levels between KUBUNTU & UBUNTU?
[22:01] <HighHo> this will list your harddrive partionions,  and how they are seen so you can use the guide given to mount them automatically
[22:01] <Tm_T> will_: what you mean?
[22:01] <will_> im a bit in decisive about weather to run KDE or GNOME
[22:02] <Tm_T> will_: don't ask popularity, try both and choose your own choice
[22:02] <will_> will do :)
[22:03] <Tm_T> will_: but IF you ask me, there's no better than KDE
[22:03] <bwv544> paolo@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[22:03] <bwv544> [sudo] password for paolo:
[22:03] <bwv544> Disk /dev/sda: 163.9 GB, 163928604672 bytes
[22:03] <bwv544> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19929 cylinders
[22:03] <bwv544> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[22:03] <bwv544> Disk identifier: 0x934c2b08
[22:03] <penguiniator> will_: you can install both environments and log into either one or both at the same time
[22:03] <bwv544>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[22:03] <bwv544> /dev/sda1   *           1       19742   158577583+  83  Linux
[22:03] <bwv544> /dev/sda2           19743       19929     1502077+   5  Extended
[22:03] <bwv544> /dev/sda5           19743       19929     1502046   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[22:03] <bwv544> Disk /dev/hde: 61.4 GB, 61492838400 bytes
[22:03] <HighHo> will_: You can also install ubuntu or kubuntu and then install the other so you can run them together
[22:03] <bwv544> 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 119150 cylinders
[22:03] <bwv544> Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes
[22:03] <bwv544> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[22:03] <bwv544>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[22:03] <bwv544> Disk /dev/hdg: 61.4 GB, 61492838400 bytes
[22:03] <HighHo> bwv544: stop
[22:03] <will_> i find it very hard to understand why people still use Windows
[22:04] <Tm_T> will_: it's about learning it to backbone
[22:04] <bwv544> sorry for flloding
[22:04] <will_> a friend has tried to get me into it for a long time, and within the last week this switch has clicked in me to go to Linux
[22:05] <will_> its fantastic these days
[22:05] <HighHo> !pastebin
[22:05] <HighHo> use that will_ when you want to post output messages
[22:06] <bwv544> in fact i have 2 hd with 60 gb unused; i'll read the webpage
[22:06] <kataklysm54> i want to fuck you
[22:06] <will_> thanks for your advise guys, speak soon :)
[22:17] <stoffer> how do I get into the cups menu?
[22:17] <stoffer> what's the address I punch into my browser?
[22:19] <HighHo> !cups | stoffer
[22:19] <stoffer> ok I found it
[22:20] <Maxa> !qdbus
[22:20] <florian> Hi! Is it possible to say to kopete to connect in invisible-mode?
[22:22] <Maxa> how is one supposed to use the qdbus commands.. some work in bash, most dont. what programmin language would i need to learn :/?
[22:24] <lupine_85> erm. Is http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso capable of doing a KDE4 install?
[22:24] <lupine_85> kang on, that's not even kubuntu
[22:24] <bwv544> i red the instructions but i think that it's not so easy ..... the script haven't effect and manually it's very hard
[22:24] <bwv544> alternative methods to muont hds ?
[22:25] <lupine_85> d'oh
[22:25] <lupine_85> how about * http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/8.04.1/kubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso * ?
[22:25] <lupine_85> KDE3 or KDE4 ?
[22:25] <HighHo> lupine_85: your looking for kubuntu remix  alternative I think
[22:26] <sisil> i wonder why just kubuntu works well on my laptop but other distros can not!
[22:26] <lupine_85> sounds about right... don't suppose you know where it is, offhand, do you?
[22:26] <Jammu> can any one help me?
[22:26] <Jammu> need help whit wlan
[22:26] <bwv544> is there a saint that can help me to mount an hd ?
[22:26] <lupine_85> I really, really can't use the desktop one
[22:27] <bwv544> in pvt ?
[22:27] <lupine_85> bwv544: mount /dev/file /moint/point -t filesystem, generally speaking
[22:27] <lupine_85> aha, got it
[22:27] <lupine_85> they make you fill out a funny form
[22:27] <bwv544> have  i to create the mount point before ?
[22:28] <lupine_85> yep
[22:28] <lupine_85> ( http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/kubuntu-kde4-8.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso in case anyone was curious)
[22:29] <bwv544> with md ? can i use any name ?
[22:29] <lupine_85> software raid? generally the device file is /dev/md? and yes, you can mount it anywhere you like
[22:30] <bwv544> no raid
[22:30] <lupine_85> lvm? or...?
[22:30] <bwv544> if i use ntfs i'll have problems ?
[22:30] <lupine_85> eh, ntfs is read-only unless you use ntfs-3g
[22:30] <bwv544> i have a lan with winXP, so i want to access to these hs from the other pcs
[22:31] <bwv544> what is -3g ?
[22:31] <lupine_85> well, if it's a samba/CIFS share, the underlying filesystem is fairly unimportant
[22:31] <lupine_85> a driver for ntfs that isn't in the mainline kernel
[22:31] <bwv544> and then ?
[22:31] <Jammu> its a cell phone thing
[22:31] <lupine_85> I don't trust it as far as I can throw the french foreign legion, but that's just me
[22:32] <lupine_85> whoops, unintentional negation of meaning
[22:33] <Jammu> wifi help any one?
[22:33] <bwv544> is it best that i use fat32 to haven't problems with XP ?
[22:34] <lupine_85> fat32 certainly works better than ntfs under linux
[22:34] <lupine_85> you know, you can access ext2/3 under windows
[22:34] <bwv544> never tried, how in few words ?
[22:34] <lupine_85> find tool. install.
[22:34] <bwv544> named ?
[22:34] <_Angelus_> guys
[22:35] <lupine_85> there's a few, ext2explorer rings a bell
[22:35] <_Angelus_> im using smb4k to transfer somefiles from my pc to my mother's pc
[22:35] <lupine_85> ext3explorer?
[22:35] <_Angelus_> but its taking too much long and its always saying "Stalled"
[22:35] <_Angelus_> it didn;t use to be like this
[22:35] <_Angelus_> any help pleasE?
[22:36] <bwv544> regarding wine, how is it possible to use win sw ?
[22:37] <lupine_85> wine <file.exe>
[22:37] <lupine_85> it's a PE loader and a whole bunch of libraries implementing Win32
[22:38] <bwv544> all the sw SHOULD be function ?
[22:38] <lupine_85> not even close
[22:38] <lupine_85> a lot of it will work fairly well
[22:38] <Lupus-SLE> Hey folks... I've just discovered that my sony ericsson k800i can use bluetooth to control the cursour on my PC... does anybody know if I can implement some sort of keyboard function so I can type from far away?
[22:38] <lupine_85> some will be perfect, some won't work at all
[22:39] <bwv544> regarding speed ?
[22:39] <lupine_85> depends. often slightly faster, as long as you're not using a DirectX application
[22:39] <lupine_85> DX tends to be a bit to a lot slower, depending on which driver you're using, pixel shaders, eetc
[22:40]  * lupine_85 wonders if we'll end up with a native DX implementation for linux when Gallium3D shows up
[22:41] <r> i'm having trouble connecting to any server other than ubuntu with konversation
[22:42] <lupine_85> odd... it should "just work"
[22:42] <lupine_85> new network -> new server -> connect
[22:42]  * lupine_85 belatedly discovers andLinux
[22:42] <r> it says connection refused
[22:42] <lupine_85> that would be caused by the server on the other end
[22:42] <lupine_85> are you connecting to the right port?
[22:43] <r> not sure
[22:43] <lupine_85> should be somewhere in the range 6667-7000
[22:43] <lupine_85> usually 6667
[22:43] <r> thanks
[22:44] <stevan_> is there anyway to force your mouse inside a window when you open it. Example :    someprogram -mousefocus  (or seomthing like this) ?
[22:45] <lupine_85> stevan_: might be doable with devilspie?
[22:45] <lupine_85> assuming you want it as a regular sort of thing
[22:45] <stevan_>  lupine_85: what is devilspie? I have never heard of it.
[22:46] <deathoncity> hi all..i am in turin now..and i wanna know where did i find the best mirror for my adept installer
[22:46] <lupine_85> stevan_: it's a window manager extension thing
[22:46] <deathoncity> please help
[22:47] <lupine_85> basically, you write rules for it in a lisp-like language and every time a window gets opened, said rules are processed against the window
[22:47] <stevan_> lupine_85: ah ok
[22:47] <lupine_85> so you can do if (window-title == 'Konqueror') maximise-window; (except in lisp, which I can't do)
[22:48] <lupine_85> and possibly if (new-process) focus-mouse;
[22:48] <lupine_85> (the source is quite nicely extensible, too - I wrote a couple of extensions to it back in the day)
[22:48] <deathoncity> please help me..my internet connection is very slow and i need a mirror for a faster download
[22:49] <stevan_> lupine_85: looks cool, I will have to look into this
[22:52] <bwv544> ufffffffffff, i cant mount this shitted hd !
[22:52] <bwv544> there's no way to do it from disk/filesys manually ?
[22:53] <lupine_85> that's what mount does. mount things, um, manually
[22:54] <bwv544> i see the hd ; right click new, appear the window, then ?
[22:54] <lupine_85> eh?
[22:54] <lupine_85> sudo mount /dev/<device-file> /mnt/point
[22:54] <lupine_85> with -t as appropriate
[22:55] <wesley_> when is alpha 5 releasing ?
[22:55] <bwv544> ok, device-file is "hde" and /mnt/point ?
[22:55] <lupine_85> is it hde? or hde1/2/3/4/5 ?
[22:56] <lupine_85> /mnt/point is arbitrary, and can be any directory you like, as long as it exists
[22:56] <bwv544> just hde, the other one shuld be hdg
[22:56] <bwv544> please refresh me on how to create a dir ..
[22:56] <lupine_85> right... you want the partition, not the entire disc, remember. some people do have an entire drive without a partition table, though, so *shrug*
[22:56] <wesley_> and how can i upgrade safe to 8.10 kubuntu without breaking the system ?
[22:57] <lupine_85> mkdir /path/to/directory
[22:57] <lupine_85> wesley_: wait until october. do the update.
[22:57] <lupine_85> ;)
[22:57] <bwv544> acc, i remember unix with simply md ...........
[22:58] <wesley_> lupine_85 i know what i am doing i was using 8.04 also from alpha 5
[22:58] <lupine_85> *shrug* then go for it
[22:58] <bwv544> but i want the entire disk !!!
[22:58] <bwv544> the procedure is not the same ?
[22:58] <lupine_85> but asking how to do a dist-upgrade doesn't *suggest* that you're used to doing this sort of thing
[22:58] <wesley_> i only ask if there´s a upgrade option because i dont have cd,s
[22:59] <lupine_85> bwv544: you have the physical disc, hde. this may, or may not, be separated into multiple partitions
[22:59] <lupine_85> which may be of any size
[22:59] <lupine_85> wesley_: it's just a normal dist-upgrade, with the caveat that anything could break at any time during or after
[22:59] <wesley_> lupine_85 i know that i can edit the sources list to 8.10 but that messed things up
[22:59] <bwv544> ok, using just hde i specify to use entire disk, right ?
[22:59] <rain2> sorry if this is the wrong question to ask here: anyone know who I should talk to if I am interested in impossible things like "remote empathy"?
[23:00] <lupine_85> bwv544: yep, and if that's not how the drive is partitioned (well, not partitioned, I guess), it won't work
[23:00] <wesley_> lupine_85 kubuntu devel isnt that worse
[23:00] <lupine_85> ORLY? ;)
[23:00] <stevan_> is there a way to "lock" your mouse inside a window, for example - a game?
[23:00]  * lupine_85 drums his fingers at the kubuntu image
[23:00] <wesley_> lupine_85 yes last time i used it was pretty useable
[23:01] <lupine_85> good for you
[23:01] <bwv544> acc, permission denied on mkdir ????? why ?
[23:01] <stevan_> I think there is a command to do this but I cant find it
[23:01] <lupine_85> last time I used an alpha, it broke my spine in three places
[23:01] <lupine_85> bwv544: try being root
[23:01] <lupine_85> or creating the directory somewhere you have permissions to do so
[23:01] <lupine_85> s/root/sudo/
[23:01] <stevan_> I jsut want to throw that flag at the end of my command to force the mouse to be locked in
[23:02] <stevan_> I tried some plugins but those have not worked out.
[23:02] <bwv544> which is the way to be root ? normally ask for passw .........
[23:03] <lupine_85> sudo <command>
[23:04] <lupine_85> humm, X11 just supports it - XGrabPointer(...confine_to=window...)
[23:04] <lupine_85> but is it exposed to the console anywhere?
[23:05] <wesley_> is there in 8.10 a kde4 version off konversation ?
[23:05] <lupine_85> not yet, I think
[23:06] <lupine_85> they're still working on porting it
[23:06] <wesley_> and kdenlive ?
[23:08] <lupine_85> not afaik
[23:08] <lupine_85> you can always build it from source, mind
[23:09] <lupine_85> in its current extremely rough state
[23:09]  * lupine_85 is installing kubuntu because he vaguely wants kde4 and can't be bothered recompiling a kernel for a new motherboard he's putting in :D
[23:09] <bwv544> sudo mount -f /dev/hde /exraid1, how to check it ?
[23:09] <bwv544> have i to restart ?
[23:11] <genii> Gah. Work. AFK
[23:13] <lupine_85> erm
[23:14] <rain2> "remote empathy" could be useful though... you'd just have to ask a lot of butterflies to flap their wings... and a hurricane might change or if the butterflies were  not big enough you could simply ask some birds for a little help XD
[23:14] <lupine_85> -f pretends to mount the filesystem, but doesn't actually do it
[23:14] <lupine_85> now try doing it for real and then do mount -l to see if it's mounted
[23:14] <lupine_85> no need to reboot. Ever. Almost.
[23:15]  * lupine_85 really needs to get into the swing of the kexec stuff
[23:16] <numberi> hi, where can i ask about wine?
[23:18] <lupine_85> numberi: #winehq is good for really specific stuff
[23:18] <lupine_85> or, you know, here
[23:19]  * lupine_85 curses his lack of forethought and calls his /boot md1
[23:22] <denis> !de
[23:22] <numberi> do u install sirectx in wine?
[23:23] <numberi> *directx
[23:28] <denis> !de
[23:35] <lupine_85> numberi: no, it comes with its own version
[23:35] <lupine_85> which is actually just an OpenGL wrapper
[23:35] <lupine_85> well, I say just...
[23:37]  * lupine_85 wonders if his bootloaders works now or not
[23:37] <lupine_85> s/works/work/
[23:46] <rain2> Just out of curiosity anyone hearing any birds around now?  If not my appologies for wasting your time.  :)
[23:48] <starenka> rain2: i do
[23:48] <rain2> crows?
[23:49] <starenka> eeeh. lemme check the dictionary.. brb
[23:49] <starenka> blackbirds
[23:49] <starenka> :)
[23:50] <rain2> lol
[23:50] <starenka> also sparrows
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[23:50] <starenka> anaybody knows how to force networkmanager to reconnect to previous wifi after hibernation?
[23:52] <sountgun> hi how can i change the window decoration?
[23:52] <starenka> emerald?
[23:52] <sountgun> ?
[23:53] <starenka> are you using compiz?
[23:53] <sountgun> kubuntu 8.0.4 come pre-installed?
[23:54] <sountgun> if not, then no
[23:54] <starenka> sortof... you gotta enable it
[23:54] <starenka> kmenu -> system -> dekstop effects
[23:55] <starenka> and then you might have to install emerald (maybe it is pre-intalled)...
[23:56] <starenka> u also can use "regular themes"..  KDE control center -> appearance -> theme manager
[23:56] <starenka> and window decorations
[23:57] <starenka> (this comes pre-installed)
[23:57] <starenka> for sure
[23:58] <starenka> found it, sountgun?