=== edu_ is now known as Tiro_Certo === root is now known as Guest42883 [00:20] Google Chrome on wine?... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5715263 [00:21] what can i use to script pidgin stuff? I want to make a buddy pounce that will send me a txt message [00:26] what can i use to script pidgin stuff? I want to make a buddy pounce that will send me a text SMS [00:35] Recommendations for system tray notes manager? [00:36] I just installed Kubuntu as the second partition (first being Windows) but I'm still stuck with the old bootloader. Anyone want to stop me before I use grub-install? [00:38] old bootloader ? [00:38] raylu, be very careful when mucking around with the boot loader; last week I seemed to lose my windows partition and I have had 20 years experience with PC. [00:38] Ok, I am dual booting Win XP and Kubuntu 8.04.1 KDE 4. I downloaded the ndiswrapper (on XP because I have my drivers installed on it) and put it on a flash drive. I booted Kubuntu and extracted ndiswrapper. Then I went and read the file it gives about how to install it. I followed the directions word for word (except it didn't say make uninstall and make as root but I had to because I didn't... [00:38] ...have sufficient permission otherwise). However, on the make and make install parts I kept getting errors, but I kept going. When it got to the part to install the driver ("ndiswrapper -i driver.inf"), I was notified that ndiswrapper wasn't installed and I needed to apt-get it. Well, that won't work because the whole reason I need it is to connect to the internet (apt-get and surf and... [00:38] ...stuff). I can't figure out what the problem is. (BTW I also tried sudo apt-get while booted on the liveCD and logged-in on Kubuntu with the disk in the drive.) Any ideas? [00:39] BluesKaj: the win xp bootloader [00:39] grub is the best way to gor for windows / kubuntu dual boot [00:39] !grub [00:39] grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [00:39] Is there a package available that has libgtk2.0-dev and all its dependencies in it? [00:39] right, i'm aware [00:39] which is why i'm asking if there's any reason i shouldn't be running grub-install [00:39] i'm wondering why the installer didn't take care of it for me [00:39] mn u send the messages on both channels at the same time? [00:40] i installed off the "kde4 remix" [00:40] no [00:40] yes [00:40] raylu there are a few steps you have to follow [00:40] u have the same questions at the same time on ubuntu channel [00:40] i din't think anyone was gonna help at ubuntu [00:40] heh. i just ran: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk-1 /dev/sda [00:40] ok [00:40] so u came here after [00:40] so anyway, crossing my fingers while rebooting [00:40] raylu, if its working ok, then best leave it, but if you must you need to remove the grub by 'approved' methods one of which is to use your winxp boot/install disk and use the 'R' option then run fixmbr. As documented elsewhere [00:41] yes i know I waited for a couple of min [00:41] and yes i came here [00:41] hmm [00:41] it fitx better here anyway [00:41] fits* [00:41] less people here [00:41] yep [00:42] on ubuntu it is hard to read the questions [00:42] Anyways, thats not answering my quest - any of you using a tray notes manager - the one im using now is Notecase but wondering if any better? [00:42] oh, my bad [00:42] reposted too soon i guess [00:45] well [00:45] u need an answwr dont u? [00:45] yep, badly [00:46] u have a strange question [00:49] do you know what i should do? [00:49] still a newbie [00:49] but soon it will be my pleasure to help u [00:50] ah ok [00:50] what is ndiswrapper? [00:51] a driver for what? [00:52] its not a driver [00:52] what is it [00:53] its a free driver wrapper that allows you to use Windows wirless drivers on linux based systems [00:53] ah ok I see it right now [00:53] on net [00:54] there is a channel [00:54] just for it [00:54] #ndiswrapper [00:55] !ndiswrapper [00:55] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [01:01] I had that kind of problems with pidgin 2.5 [01:02] lol [01:02] i cant help [01:04] !display [01:04] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto [01:04] how do I get flash to work in konqueror? [01:05] just a suggestion: you could switch to firefox (alot more user-friendly IMHO) [01:06] ForgeAus, install flashplugin-nonfree [01:06] u need firefox for a while? [01:06] ?? [01:08] mn, konqueror is a good browser...it's just a bit tiresome to set up properly. That's why I use FF :) [01:09] same here. FF is more customizable and I don't really like the way konqueror is set up [01:10] konq is too menu driven for my taste [01:11] oh yeah that's true. and i don't like having to type http://www.whatever.com i just use whatever and then ctrl + enter [01:12] lol [01:13] mn u are productive [01:13] lol [01:15] kona is a great locator and sometimes I use it when FF doesn't render IE type pages [01:15] remind me someone [01:15] err konq [01:15] u score quickly [01:16] hrmm, i haven't come across a page yet that FF wouldn't render. I guess i better keep konqueror though [01:16] konq can' be uninstalled without dumping kde [01:17] err can't [01:18] not sudo apt-get remove konqueror? [01:19] lol [01:19] hawaiian guy [01:20] nope, it''l take all of kubuntu dektop with it [01:20] desktop [01:20] blue sky [01:21] nope blues-kaj , but it does rhyme with sky :) [01:22] ur testing me again [01:23] if i remove kde4 and apt-get ubuntu-desktop will I be effectively running ubuntu (except for the boot screen)? [01:23] <--old drummer in rocknroll band, hence the blues thing , Denise :) [01:25] blue sky is coming? [01:26] mn, kdm (bootscreen) may also be uninstalled , not quite sure [01:27] mn kde4 , oh, that's different , you prolly have kde3 already installed , but you will still have konqueror in that case [01:28] why would I already have kde3 installed? [01:30] konquerer, firefox [01:30] depends on which kubuntu you installed. [01:30] beaches [01:30] hawaii [01:30] most installs have kde3 as the default desktop environment , kde4 is an optional one that installs beside kde3 , and you choose which one at the login menu [01:30] ur testing ff [01:30] I installed Kubuntu 8.04.1 KDE4 [01:31] u dont trust me yet? === pablo is now known as sountgun [01:32] or u want an answer? [01:33] 666 [01:33] K3b is having writing issues with my Lenovo T-61. Anyone know where I can get some support on this? === sean is now known as Guest11552 [01:33] corigo, i think theres a laptop/thinkpad forum ont he ubuntu forums [01:34] K3b a Kubuntu app? [01:34] yup [01:34] (Isn't) [01:34] testing [01:34] ok [01:34] have a good night [01:36] mn, check your login menu..you may have the kde3 option since it's still the default desktop in 8.04 akaik [01:36] oops [01:40] not bright [01:45] k3ron is that a ham call?????????? [01:47] ok [01:47] over for me [01:47] finished [01:48] that last humiliation was really not necessary [01:49] Denise, what humiliation ? [01:50] doggymenz [01:50] pedro [01:50] hawaii [01:50] beaches [01:50] you need windows installer 2, msxml4, common controls 5, and directx9. to get chrome to work under wine [01:50] (google chrome that is) [01:51] still dunno what you mean , Denise [01:51] u still take me as a prostitute? [01:52] * BluesKaj detects a flme about to light up [02:01] Checkboxes system wide are not working properly on this machine? [02:07] quelqun de francais ici??? [02:07] je débute sous kubuntu [02:08] je parle auz hommes [02:08] et je voudrais savoir si quelqun pourrais me guider!!! [02:08] pas [02:08] denise... [02:08] quoi [02:08] tu sais bien lutiliser? [02:08] kubuntu [02:08] tu sais lutiliser? [02:08] non [02:08] ubuntu [02:08] tu est sur ubuntu toi? [02:09] oui [02:09] ahh tu es dou toi? [02:09] ubuntu [02:10] mais non mais tu habite dans quel coin?lool [02:10] canada [02:10] ah daccord [02:10] moi je suis de france [02:10] mais je suis allemand [02:10] sa fait longtemp que tu utilise ubuntu? [02:10] can anyone recomend a program for converting wmv to a dvd player format ? [02:11] osiris [02:11] french please [02:11] un mois peut-[etre [02:11] ah daccord tu sais installer tout ca? [02:11] uh....this is the ENGLISH channel last i checked. [02:11] oui [02:11] ah dac moi ossi mais je voudrais savoir plus de choses [02:12] tu as réussi a installer java? [02:12] comme quoi [02:12] non [02:12] ta essaier? [02:12] pas encore [02:12] moi oui mais marche pas [02:12] sa me soule!!! [02:13] oui je vois ca [02:13] lool [02:13] je comprends pas [02:14] tu as quel age [02:14] normalement c'est sudo apt-get install [02:14] mais java il connais pas c chiant [02:14] jai 18 ans et toi? [02:14] 15 [02:14] je dois partir [02:14] ah tu est jeune dit donc lool [02:14] bonne chance [02:14] ok a la prochaine denise [02:14] merci [02:15] osiris!!! [02:15] what [02:15] the englisch channel hier? [02:15] ??? [02:15] this is the english channel [02:16] wo is the french channel? [02:16] ?? [02:16] 1 sec. [02:16] ok [02:17] ??? [02:17] !fr [02:17] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr === mlins is now known as mlins|away [02:18] thx BluesKaj [02:18] np [02:18] bit rusty, i am [02:19] BluesKaj, any idea on dvd authoring app, or a way to convert wmv to dvd [02:20] tovid CLI or GUI , osiris ..or you could try ffmpeg on it's own [02:20] tovid cli has just failed me. thats why i asked. good call though. [02:20] there's mencoder as well but it's abit to lossy for my liking [02:20] was my first thought too [02:21] gonna try tovid again, but it has a history of being bugy on my various machines. [02:22] I had tovid working quite well ...it has a wiki site which gives an important dependency list and tutorial [02:22] how to i add desktop effects? [02:22] thats probably where i'll end up. [02:23] preferrably compiz, but not necessarily [02:23] osiris, i haven't used it nmuch since i bought a Tivo which sort of negates the need for a dvd setup [02:23] this is a project for a co-worker [02:23] compiz is the most popular , Zopiac1 [02:24] hi, how can i stop the xserver? using kubuntu 8.04 with kde 4.1 [02:24] she created the disc as a slide whow of family pictures, but she has no idea how to make it playable in a real player [02:24] i know, but how tdo i set it up on kde [02:24] !compiz, Zopiac1 [02:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz, zopiac1 [02:24] damn [02:24] already tried sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop but its not working [02:24] lol [02:24] !compiz [02:24] Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion [02:25] i have it installed, but perhaps i ddont have the manager [02:25] ok...those dont seem to be working [02:25] Zopiac1, #compiz-fusion is the place to ask [02:25] Rayy, go to a terminal after you stop kdm, and sudo killall Xorg [02:26] osiris: k, ty [02:26] that should do it [02:27] osiris,I would try K3B after converting with ffmpeg [02:28] that was the burning app i was planning on. [02:28] osiris: didnt work [02:28] just wondered if my old methods had been replaced by some new killer app [02:28] osiris: it just reseted the x session [02:28] osiris: was back at the login [02:28] hmm [02:28] and best, kdm and kdm-kde4 are not running but i have kde 4.1 gui lolz [02:29] sudo killall kdm && sudo killall xorg ? [02:29] osiris, no new killer apps afaik, just some upgrades to the existing ones [02:30] that damn kde4 ...wish ppl would leave us kde3 guys alone :) [02:30] whats so bad about 4 ;) [02:30] I'm prolly gonna be lost in the dust soon [02:31] eye candy and silly widgets that don't work or hide themselves :) [02:32] I'm too old for fisher price stuff :) [02:32] osiris: ty, worked [02:32] osiris: since when do u need to kill kdm? [02:33] idk. in my opinion, if you want something dead. kill it [02:33] for certain processes i use start and stop [02:33] DevilLord2k [02:33] but if its acting wrong in the first place, a kill is usually necessary [02:33] ignor that.. sorry wrong chat box [02:34] osiris: so a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 stop should have worked in the first place [02:34] ? never ran 4 [02:34] found a really nice 2 bedroom [02:34] again..^^^ wrong channel [02:34] ahhh crap.. sorry again lol [02:34] osiris: u dont use kde 4.1? [02:35] ok.. i'm going to close this.. should help me out here :P [02:35] Rayy, i honestly dont know. whatever is default with hardy [02:35] osiris: that may be kde 3.5^^ [02:35] i stopped doing all the fancy bleeding edge stuff a long time ago [02:35] osiris: god i love kde 4.1, i was once a gnome fanboy [02:35] kde3 is still default I think [02:35] if anything i would be running E17 [02:36] osiris: i hated kde to death [02:36] but im jst a lazy user now. no time for the devel work anymore [02:36] i like the app base. thats about it [02:36] gnome apps just seem featureless [02:37] osiris: because u cant configure em as much [02:37] osiris: but: kopete is so full with configurations and stuff [02:37] kde4 is beyond my understanding and I don't think I'm thick headed , I just don't "get it " I guess. :) [02:37] osiris: that i gave up to act it like i want it to and installed pidgin^^ [02:37] kopete, not a fan. prefer pidgin [02:38] osiris: it has a pretty annoying preconfiguration [02:38] BluesKaj: kde 4 has grown userfriendly, thats it^^ [02:39] BluesKaj, my biggest issue with hardy, is how the xorg.conf is completely trashed in hardy, and a lot of the "old ways of doing things" kinda got busted [02:39] osiris: happened before [02:39] i had to get my xorg from a dapper install to get it right [02:39] Rayy, well i guess I'll use it when I absolutely have to ..otherwise I prefer to wait til the time comes [02:39] osiris: gutsy had the same problem: bullet proof xserver [02:40] BluesKaj: some stuff isnt working correctly, like ark is piece of shit atm [02:40] BluesKaj: but over all, ull like it ;) [02:40] language please [02:41] bugged* [02:41] gotta keep it family [02:41] will kde 4.1.1 be included in some external hardy sources? [02:42] prolly in a 3rd party repo i would guess [02:42] Rayy, I tried it for 2 days ..couldn't figure out what "H" was going on [02:42] \quit [02:42] / [02:42] BluesKaj: had the same problem with 3.5, i rly got mad^^ [02:44] BluesKaj: but i still like gnome a lot [02:46] anyone coul work chrome???? [02:47] sountgun: im very interested in this thing too [02:47] !!!!!!!! i want chrome!!! [02:47] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [02:47] sountgun: it seems to have very intelligent design [02:48] sountgun: question is, if it works [02:48] i love everything of Google and i saw the screenshots and i love it!! [02:49] it's seems really fast! [02:49] sountgun: but it will be only an alternative if it contains something like noscript and adblock plus [02:50] i never liked Firefox! [02:50] sountgun: and googles biggest business is ads [02:50] sountgun: would be suicide to support something like this [02:50] well i used Opera and never had issues with adds [02:50] sountgun: i never liked opera :P [02:51] well i never like Firefox xD [02:51] sountgun: i guess konqui is using webkit too [02:51] sountgun: but in kde 4.1 its a bit slow and bugged [02:51] i don't like konqueror as web browser either [02:52] sountgun: id prefer it to google though^^ [02:52] it's a lil' bit slow [02:52] sountgun: it uses webkite, like chrome and safari [02:52] kit* [02:52] but i prefer google ^^ I LOve GOOGLE xD [02:53] sountgun: they have a lot of software, that i wouldnt use [02:53] hello! [02:53] i have it must all! (picasa, earth...) xD [02:54] sountgun: especially talk and mail are some bastards i guess [02:56] i used gtalk [02:57] nobody work chrome ? [03:02] google chrome!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:02] konq is fast if IPV6 is defeated [03:04] google chrome [03:05] why bother with chrome when konqueror in kde4 will be faster and offer the same rendering? [03:06] not that i wont try it but not really worth the fuss its got for the it world maybe the buisness people should care, but not me [03:08] google chrome? [03:08] yes [03:08] but it's still not ready for linux. on the website they say that an engeneer team is working "hard" on it to make it available as soon as possible... [03:09] google promises... i don't buy them [03:09] they say the same with picasa [03:09] ¬¬ [03:12] Rioting_pacifist: biggest problem for konqui atm is flash and crashes :P [03:19] * mortici is not a fan of konq [03:20] * mortici wishes konq would work right [03:21] chrome... i gonna have to wait for years when google want to release chrome... xD [03:22] chrome is nice, but current browsers are a little more polished, give it some time and it could become damn good, the seperate process idea is very nice, and sandboxing [03:23] is kubuntu better than ubuntu [03:23] No, it's exactly the same, other than the default desktop environment [03:23] matter of opinion [03:24] are there more programs for kde [03:24] than GNOME [03:24] wouldnt say that [03:24] just seems the apps have more features [03:25] to me anyhow [03:25] KDE has more themes I think [03:26] KDE can run GTK apps and Gnome can run Qt apps === kurumin is now known as notriamil [03:26] kde apps better [03:26] ? [03:27] The only differences you'll see in the programs will be how well they visually match the rest of the desktop environment [03:27] hmm [03:27] that sounds good [03:28] payne: what do u expect of an desktop environment? [03:29] payne: do u want it to be easy and open or complex and with gr8 configuration possibilities [03:34] I just ordered kubuntu I like to have an awesome desktop and runn all kde files and dual boot ubuntu [03:34] possibley... [03:36] any1 going to linux fest! [03:38] lol [03:38] whos going to linux fest? [03:39] linux fest.... [03:39] <->__<-> === kurumin is now known as notriamil [03:40] hi notriami === freaky[t] is now known as fReAkY[t] [03:41] hi.... [03:41] is there somewhere here to discuss intrepid? [03:41] na [03:41] idk what it is [03:41] hello, i'm from Brazil [03:42] hi I am from ATL [03:42] ATL? [03:43] Atlanta, Georgia U.S [03:46] can anyone please tell me how or if it is possible to install kubuntu on my vista system, without having to burn it onto a cd? i still want to be able go into the kubuntu setup manager and configure the partitions for dual boot. is this possible? [03:46] darwin_- try #ubuntu+1 [03:47] !install | shaffy [03:47] shaffy: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate === fernando is now known as Guest54149 [03:48] favro: thx. i'll get on it. [03:48] np [03:48] shaffy? [03:48] yes? [03:49] oh thought i was program [03:49] lol.. okay [03:49] lol it [03:50] xd === fReAkY[t] is now known as freaky[t] [03:50] zzzz.... falls asleep @ keyboard [03:51] linux fest!!! [03:51] on software freedom day === payne is now known as payne__ [03:53] yay! [03:53] what packages do I need to develop in QT3? [03:53] qt3? [03:53] I get this error: [03:53] configure: error: [03:53] in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. [03:53] So, check this please and use another prefix! [03:53] this is in Kdevelp [03:55] I also get this error: acinclude.m4:6022: the serial number must appear before any macro definition [03:55] what serial number???? is this a joke? === kurumin is now known as notriamil [04:00] hello all, i want to remove kde4 from a kubuntu hardy install and install kde3.5.9. what is the command to do this [04:03] hello! [04:03] posingaspopular, install kde3 first then depending how you installed kde4 , use the same method to uninstall [04:03] olá! [04:04] BluesKaj: the install was done with the kde4remix cd and is already done [04:04] still nobody work chrome?? [04:05]