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Volansfta: http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux00:10
Volans(if you don't have already see it)00:11
[reed]kinda useless00:11
[reed]considering there's nothing00:11
[reed]all you get is "all tests passed" or something like that00:11
Volansyeah I'm reading now00:12
ftafor now, i'm only seeing things like "building terminated because of errors" :)00:12
ftait's late and i'm not thinking straight, guiness effect, i'll give it another try tomorrow00:14
ftabut maybe asac would have already done it00:14
Volansfta: the full licences http://code.google.com/chromium/terms.html00:32
Volansthere are many problem for 64 bit00:37
Volanshttp://dev.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/64-bit-support00:38
* kgoetz wonders why try to support this when google only support it on doze00:38
jcastroheh00:38
jcastroby the time this runs on windows we'll have firefox 3.100:38
jcastroat which point the buzz will have worn off00:39
kgoetzdid you mean to say windows just then?00:39
jcastrooh I meant linux00:40
jcastrosorry00:40
jcastrowhoops. :p00:40
kgoetz*grin* i thought you might00:41
* kgoetz isnt sure "The chromium authors" *can* have the (C) - i thought only people+companies could00:41
kgoetzthey should really say 'three clause bsd licence', but oh well00:42
fta[reed], did the "text-shadow" css3 property disappeared from trunk ? it was there a few days ago, seems it's gone since a2 !?00:43
fta-ed00:43
[reed]hmm00:49
Volansgood night... bye bye00:57
ftahm, no, it's still there but it's no longer working in my pages.. strange00:57
ftafound it, it was a // comment inside <style> block01:01
ftaweird01:01
fta[reed], http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ctrl+tab.png  (the 1st one is garbled)01:19
gnomefreakasac: you around?10:35
gnomefreakfta2: are you having issues with make -f /usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/*11:01
fta2what kind ?11:01
gnomefreakfta2: it not working11:01
gnomefreakill grab pastebin link11:01
fta2show me11:01
gnomefreakhttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/52964911:02
gnomefreakcrap11:02
gnomefreakthats not it11:02
gnomefreakfta2: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/52965311:03
fta2hmm11:05
gnomefreakfta2: that is right command right? its been failing for a while now11:05
gnomefreakid say atleast 4 weeks11:05
fta2make -f /usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/thunderbird-3.0.mk DEBIAN_DATE=20080902t0559 get-orig-source11:07
fta2but you don't need DEBIAN_DATE if it's to get the lastest snapshot11:07
gnomefreakah11:07
gnomefreakill try it thanks11:07
gnomefreakah thanks that looks to be working11:08
fta2you are not supposed to call mozclient yourself, call it through the package with debian/rules get-orig-source11:09
gnomefreakfta2: i thought i was able to atleast it think i was able to11:12
fta2yep, it was the default action in the past, i changed everything when i rewrote it in perl11:13
gnomefreakah that would explain that11:14
gnomefreaki updated my notes11:14
fta2i may have missed that, the default action now is to list tag, i could easily fix that but it has no impact on the packages11:15
gnomefreakthan why use it?11:15
fta2i mean, the default action has no impact on packages as they always specify a rule11:16
gnomefreakoh ok11:16
fta2i just have to swap 2 lines to revert to the old default action11:16
Kamping_Kaiserbtw, i was discussing chrome with people here recently, so thought this might be relevent (to them, or everyone ) http://tapthehive.com/discuss/This_Post_Not_Made_In_Chrome_Google_s_EULA_Sucks11:17
gnomefreakill be back while i wait11:20
fta2if it's that great, people will fork it and change that11:21
armin76fta2: you do it :P11:30
XioNoXHi!12:03
gnomefreakfta2: the profile patch you fixed is causing  a FTBFS but i will get to it this week i hope i have other things to work on i was trying to do both12:10
gnomefreakmaybe not broken i think its something i forgot12:19
asac*sigh*12:23
asacfta2: webbrowser was just denied archive entry12:24
asacpitti was picky ;)12:24
* gnomefreak thinks this isnt gonna work im thinking i forgot something12:25
asachi XioNoX12:25
gnomefreakgood morning asac12:25
XioNoXHi asac :)12:25
XioNoXasac, What's new ?12:25
asacXioNoX: i am trying hard to make the alternatives dialog work nicely ;)12:27
asaci gnomefreak  .... though its lunchtime here ;)12:27
asachi12:27
XioNoXasac, What don't work ?12:28
gnomefreakasac: yep it is12:28
gnomefreakomg i think i fixed it ;)12:29
gnomefreaknope nevermind12:29
asacXioNoX: well ... various things ;)12:30
XioNoXI have to go12:31
asacXioNoX: lets talk later12:31
XioNoXSee you later ;)12:31
asaccu12:31
gnomefreakplease tell me you dont have to be in quilt to run autoconf-2.1312:32
fta2asac, i thought you discussed internally before13:13
fta2good: ppa archives are not signed => soyuz Target: None => 2.1.1013:14
asacfta2: yeah ... forgetting that picky pitti being on holiday :(13:15
asacwe discussed that webbrowser is "too" generic. but we thought that there wont be much complains13:16
fta2so the argument is just about the name ?13:16
asacyes13:16
asacfor now13:16
asacactually pitti wanted it to be done in the way we had it before13:17
asace.g. with divert13:17
asacbut i convinced him at least about that13:17
asacfta2: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/firefox-dependencies.txt13:17
asacthose are pittis suggesions13:17
asacthe last is what we have now and what we will use ... of course other names :(13:18
asacdiy-webbrowser13:21
asac;)13:21
asacdo it yourself webbrowser :(13:22
asacdiy-browser13:22
asac_reconnect13:31
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asac_reconnect (once more)13:45
asacreconnect (once more)13:49
fta2asac, why not firefox-3.0-core depending on firefox-3.0-branding | whatever-3.0-branding, it's more understandable than firefox-3.0-unbranded depending on firefox-3.0-branding14:33
asacfta2: the suggestions of pitti are moot ... the current way appears to be ok or do you see anything else that can be better?14:35
asac(e.g. we have firefox-3.0 depend on firefox-3.9-branding  | whatever-3.0-branding14:35
asac)14:36
fta2yep, that's ok14:36
XioNoXBack15:51
XioNoXasac ?15:52
asacXioNoX: ?15:56
asacwhat did we do?15:56
XioNoX?15:57
XioNoXdo you wan't that I do something ?15:57
XioNoXaround ubufox for exemple ?15:57
asacXioNoX: wait a few minutes15:58
asacXioNoX: i pushed what i have now to the main ubufox branch16:07
asacrevision 10016:07
asacits a bit better ... but there are still things that are broken :)16:08
XioNoXWhat ?16:09
asacXioNoX: well ... the currentPlugin doesnt work16:09
asacXioNoX: we probably need to revert to the old heuristic16:09
asace.g. look at pref and if there is something set check whether we have a plugin for that16:09
asacotherwise use currentPlugin16:09
XioNoX<asac> XioNoX: well ... the currentPlugin doesnt work [......] <asac> otherwise use currentPlugin16:10
XioNoX??16:10
asacXioNoX: if there is a pref set for the mime-type we should use that plugin16:10
asacif there is no pref, we can use currentPlugin16:10
XioNoXok16:11
asacbug #25217416:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 252174 in gvfs "gvfsd-trash crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25217416:27
asacbug 26253916:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 262539 in linux-restricted-modules "2.6.27 REGRESSION, hangs during boot while preparing restricted drivers when ath_hal is blacklisted" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26253916:28
asac[reed]: can you land #421977 ?16:35
asacit has checkin-needed from gavin16:36
[reed]asac: not right now, but later, sure16:37
asac[reed]: cool. ill remind you later in case you forget :-D16:38
armin76mozilla bug 42197716:47
ubottuMozilla bug 421977 in OS Integration "nsGNOMEShellService::GetDesktopBackgroundColor should support GConf's actual format" [Normal,Reopened] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42197716:47
=== fta_ is now known as fta
fta[reed], do you already have a bug for http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ctrl+tab.png ?19:34
asacurgh19:47
asaci think i found the root cause for all the mime-type troubles ;)19:47
asacnavigator.mimeTypes gives duplicate entries for the same mime-type19:47
asacjust because there are multiple plugins serving that19:47
asacso maybe a MimeType needs a field "enabledMimeType" which points to the actually used mimetype object ;)19:51
[reed]fta: what's the problem?21:03
fta[reed], the page on the right is obviously corrupted21:24
ftai mean left21:24
[reed]oh21:24
[reed]yeah21:24
[reed]file a bug21:24
[reed]wlel21:24
[reed]well21:24
[reed]search first21:24
[reed]but then file a bug21:25
[reed]:)21:25
fta[reed], are you running intrepid now ?21:31
[reed]no21:38
[reed]how stable is it?21:38
ftadepends. i just wanted to know if your sound is ok with <video/>. I asked you before, i don't remember your answer21:39
mdkeasac: around?21:48
mdkeasac: we chatted briefly last cycle about the mechanism for the startpage, and agreed that this release we would try and remove the cruft in ubuntu-docs given that the startpage magic is now provided by ubufox. Do you think it is too late in the cycle to try that? I'd like to remove the unneeded stuff from ubuntu-docs if possible22:00
asacmdke: are all other browsers ready?22:01
asaci think epiphany doesnt need the alternatives22:01
asac(last i looked)22:01
asacbut i am not sure about konqueror and such22:01
mdkeasac: I don't think so but I can try and find out. I think they were only really there for distros which might use firefox as their browser and wanted a different startpage22:02
mdkeI think we took the view that they should get their own bufox :)22:03
asacmdke: would we get rid of all alternatives in -docs or just for the "languages" ?22:05
mdkeasac: all I think. And just ship the html22:07
asacmdke: ok. would that mean that kubuntu users that install ubufox wont get a homepage at all?22:08
mdkeasac: well, if they use firefox, I guess they would get the ubuntu page, unless kubuntu ships a kubufox22:09
asacmdke: no. thats not what i mean. i mean the offline page22:09
asacwe should do something about that not going to a non-existing page22:09
mdkedoesn't ubufox supply the url to the offline page?22:09
asacmdke: it does22:11
asacmdke: we could also try to detect if we are in kde or what22:11
asacbut we need a safe fallback somewhere22:11
asace.g. something that shows up when everything else fails ;)22:11
asacbut maybe that "final" resort page should just be shipped in ubufox then22:11
mdkeI think the final fallback should be the ubuntu page, that way we don't need to ship another page22:13
mdkeasac: I'll ask around about what Kubuntu does and grab you again another time. cya22:26
asacthanks22:27
nullackHi Mozilla Team :)23:01
nullackI see we are approaching Alpha 523:01
nullackAnd I am a little concerned about the flash experience with firefox as we approach alpha 523:01
nullackMany flash websites crash the browser, such as tv.com, anandtech.com23:01
nullackPlease refer to this bug 26269323:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 262693 in flashplugin-nonfree "Flash not working: Intrepid, 2.6.27, FF3" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26269323:02
nullackPlease note Im on Im on revision 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu 1 of flashplugin and 1.1.0-0ubuntu2 which is the latest to main23:12
asacnullack: amd64?23:19
nullackasac: Yes23:19
nullackFolks Im rebooting, Ill be back23:19
nullackasac : Do you think I should try to replicate the problem under the nv driver instead of the nvidia one?23:47

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