[00:10] <Volans> fta: http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux
[00:11] <Volans> (if you don't have already see it)
[00:11] <[reed]> kinda useless
[00:11] <[reed]> considering there's nothing
[00:11] <[reed]> all you get is "all tests passed" or something like that
[00:12] <Volans> yeah I'm reading now
[00:12] <fta> for now, i'm only seeing things like "building terminated because of errors" :)
[00:14] <fta> it's late and i'm not thinking straight, guiness effect, i'll give it another try tomorrow
[00:14] <fta> but maybe asac would have already done it
[00:32] <Volans> fta: the full licences http://code.google.com/chromium/terms.html
[00:37] <Volans> there are many problem for 64 bit
[00:38] <Volans> http://dev.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/64-bit-support
[00:38]  * kgoetz wonders why try to support this when google only support it on doze
[00:38] <jcastro> heh
[00:38] <jcastro> by the time this runs on windows we'll have firefox 3.1
[00:39] <jcastro> at which point the buzz will have worn off
[00:39] <kgoetz> did you mean to say windows just then?
[00:40] <jcastro> oh I meant linux
[00:40] <jcastro> sorry
[00:40] <jcastro> whoops. :p
[00:41] <kgoetz> *grin* i thought you might
[00:41]  * kgoetz isnt sure "The chromium authors" *can* have the (C) - i thought only people+companies could
[00:42] <kgoetz> they should really say 'three clause bsd licence', but oh well
[00:43] <fta> [reed], did the "text-shadow" css3 property disappeared from trunk ? it was there a few days ago, seems it's gone since a2 !?
[00:43] <fta> -ed
[00:49] <[reed]> hmm
[00:57] <Volans> good night... bye bye
[00:57] <fta> hm, no, it's still there but it's no longer working in my pages.. strange
[01:01] <fta> found it, it was a // comment inside <style> block
[01:01] <fta> weird
[01:19] <fta> [reed], http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ctrl+tab.png  (the 1st one is garbled)
[10:35] <gnomefreak> asac: you around?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> fta2: are you having issues with make -f /usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/*
[11:01] <fta2> what kind ?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> fta2: it not working
[11:01] <gnomefreak> ill grab pastebin link
[11:01] <fta2> show me
[11:02] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/529649
[11:02] <gnomefreak> crap
[11:02] <gnomefreak> thats not it
[11:03] <gnomefreak> fta2: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/529653
[11:05] <fta2> hmm
[11:05] <gnomefreak> fta2: that is right command right? its been failing for a while now
[11:05] <gnomefreak> id say atleast 4 weeks
[11:07] <fta2> make -f /usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/thunderbird-3.0.mk DEBIAN_DATE=20080902t0559 get-orig-source
[11:07] <fta2> but you don't need DEBIAN_DATE if it's to get the lastest snapshot
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ill try it thanks
[11:08] <gnomefreak> ah thanks that looks to be working
[11:09] <fta2> you are not supposed to call mozclient yourself, call it through the package with debian/rules get-orig-source
[11:12] <gnomefreak> fta2: i thought i was able to atleast it think i was able to
[11:13] <fta2> yep, it was the default action in the past, i changed everything when i rewrote it in perl
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ah that would explain that
[11:14] <gnomefreak> i updated my notes
[11:15] <fta2> i may have missed that, the default action now is to list tag, i could easily fix that but it has no impact on the packages
[11:15] <gnomefreak> than why use it?
[11:16] <fta2> i mean, the default action has no impact on packages as they always specify a rule
[11:16] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[11:16] <fta2> i just have to swap 2 lines to revert to the old default action
[11:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> btw, i was discussing chrome with people here recently, so thought this might be relevent (to them, or everyone ) http://tapthehive.com/discuss/This_Post_Not_Made_In_Chrome_Google_s_EULA_Sucks
[11:20] <gnomefreak> ill be back while i wait
[11:21] <fta2> if it's that great, people will fork it and change that
[11:30] <armin76> fta2: you do it :P
[12:03] <XioNoX> Hi!
[12:10] <gnomefreak> fta2: the profile patch you fixed is causing  a FTBFS but i will get to it this week i hope i have other things to work on i was trying to do both
[12:19] <gnomefreak> maybe not broken i think its something i forgot
[12:23] <asac> *sigh*
[12:24] <asac> fta2: webbrowser was just denied archive entry
[12:24] <asac> pitti was picky ;)
[12:25]  * gnomefreak thinks this isnt gonna work im thinking i forgot something
[12:25] <asac> hi XioNoX
[12:25] <gnomefreak> good morning asac
[12:25] <XioNoX> Hi asac :)
[12:25] <XioNoX> asac, What's new ?
[12:27] <asac> XioNoX: i am trying hard to make the alternatives dialog work nicely ;)
[12:27] <asac> i gnomefreak  .... though its lunchtime here ;)
[12:27] <asac> hi
[12:28] <XioNoX> asac, What don't work ?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> asac: yep it is
[12:29] <gnomefreak> omg i think i fixed it ;)
[12:29] <gnomefreak> nope nevermind
[12:30] <asac> XioNoX: well ... various things ;)
[12:31] <XioNoX> I have to go
[12:31] <asac> XioNoX: lets talk later
[12:31] <XioNoX> See you later ;)
[12:31] <asac> cu
[12:32] <gnomefreak> please tell me you dont have to be in quilt to run autoconf-2.13
[13:13] <fta2> asac, i thought you discussed internally before
[13:14] <fta2> good: ppa archives are not signed => soyuz Target: None => 2.1.10
[13:15] <asac> fta2: yeah ... forgetting that picky pitti being on holiday :(
[13:16] <asac> we discussed that webbrowser is "too" generic. but we thought that there wont be much complains
[13:16] <fta2> so the argument is just about the name ?
[13:16] <asac> yes
[13:16] <asac> for now
[13:17] <asac> actually pitti wanted it to be done in the way we had it before
[13:17] <asac> e.g. with divert
[13:17] <asac> but i convinced him at least about that
[13:17] <asac> fta2: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/firefox-dependencies.txt
[13:17] <asac> those are pittis suggesions
[13:18] <asac> the last is what we have now and what we will use ... of course other names :(
[13:21] <asac> diy-webbrowser
[13:21] <asac> ;)
[13:22] <asac> do it yourself webbrowser :(
[13:22] <asac> diy-browser
[13:31] <asac_> reconnect
[13:45] <asac_> reconnect (once more)
[13:49] <asac> reconnect (once more)
[14:33] <fta2> asac, why not firefox-3.0-core depending on firefox-3.0-branding | whatever-3.0-branding, it's more understandable than firefox-3.0-unbranded depending on firefox-3.0-branding
[14:35] <asac> fta2: the suggestions of pitti are moot ... the current way appears to be ok or do you see anything else that can be better?
[14:35] <asac> (e.g. we have firefox-3.0 depend on firefox-3.9-branding  | whatever-3.0-branding
[14:36] <asac> )
[14:36] <fta2> yep, that's ok
[15:51] <XioNoX> Back
[15:52] <XioNoX> asac ?
[15:56] <asac> XioNoX: ?
[15:56] <asac> what did we do?
[15:57] <XioNoX> ?
[15:57] <XioNoX> do you wan't that I do something ?
[15:57] <XioNoX> around ubufox for exemple ?
[15:58] <asac> XioNoX: wait a few minutes
[16:07] <asac> XioNoX: i pushed what i have now to the main ubufox branch
[16:07] <asac> revision 100
[16:08] <asac> its a bit better ... but there are still things that are broken :)
[16:09] <XioNoX> What ?
[16:09] <asac> XioNoX: well ... the currentPlugin doesnt work
[16:09] <asac> XioNoX: we probably need to revert to the old heuristic
[16:09] <asac> e.g. look at pref and if there is something set check whether we have a plugin for that
[16:09] <asac> otherwise use currentPlugin
 XioNoX: well ... the currentPlugin doesnt work [......] <asac> otherwise use currentPlugin
[16:10] <XioNoX> ??
[16:10] <asac> XioNoX: if there is a pref set for the mime-type we should use that plugin
[16:10] <asac> if there is no pref, we can use currentPlugin
[16:11] <XioNoX> ok
[16:27] <asac> bug #252174
[16:27] <asac> bug 262539
[16:35] <asac> [reed]: can you land #421977 ?
[16:36] <asac> it has checkin-needed from gavin
[16:37] <[reed]> asac: not right now, but later, sure
[16:38] <asac> [reed]: cool. ill remind you later in case you forget :-D
[16:47] <armin76> mozilla bug 421977
[19:34] <fta> [reed], do you already have a bug for http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ctrl+tab.png ?
[19:47] <asac> urgh
[19:47] <asac> i think i found the root cause for all the mime-type troubles ;)
[19:47] <asac> navigator.mimeTypes gives duplicate entries for the same mime-type
[19:47] <asac> just because there are multiple plugins serving that
[19:51] <asac> so maybe a MimeType needs a field "enabledMimeType" which points to the actually used mimetype object ;)
[21:03] <[reed]> fta: what's the problem?
[21:24] <fta> [reed], the page on the right is obviously corrupted
[21:24] <fta> i mean left
[21:24] <[reed]> oh
[21:24] <[reed]> yeah
[21:24] <[reed]> file a bug
[21:24] <[reed]> wlel
[21:24] <[reed]> well
[21:24] <[reed]> search first
[21:25] <[reed]> but then file a bug
[21:25] <[reed]> :)
[21:31] <fta> [reed], are you running intrepid now ?
[21:38] <[reed]> no
[21:38] <[reed]> how stable is it?
[21:39] <fta> depends. i just wanted to know if your sound is ok with <video/>. I asked you before, i don't remember your answer
[21:48] <mdke> asac: around?
[22:00] <mdke> asac: we chatted briefly last cycle about the mechanism for the startpage, and agreed that this release we would try and remove the cruft in ubuntu-docs given that the startpage magic is now provided by ubufox. Do you think it is too late in the cycle to try that? I'd like to remove the unneeded stuff from ubuntu-docs if possible
[22:01] <asac> mdke: are all other browsers ready?
[22:01] <asac> i think epiphany doesnt need the alternatives
[22:01] <asac> (last i looked)
[22:01] <asac> but i am not sure about konqueror and such
[22:02] <mdke> asac: I don't think so but I can try and find out. I think they were only really there for distros which might use firefox as their browser and wanted a different startpage
[22:03] <mdke> I think we took the view that they should get their own bufox :)
[22:05] <asac> mdke: would we get rid of all alternatives in -docs or just for the "languages" ?
[22:07] <mdke> asac: all I think. And just ship the html
[22:08] <asac> mdke: ok. would that mean that kubuntu users that install ubufox wont get a homepage at all?
[22:09] <mdke> asac: well, if they use firefox, I guess they would get the ubuntu page, unless kubuntu ships a kubufox
[22:09] <asac> mdke: no. thats not what i mean. i mean the offline page
[22:09] <asac> we should do something about that not going to a non-existing page
[22:09] <mdke> doesn't ubufox supply the url to the offline page?
[22:11] <asac> mdke: it does
[22:11] <asac> mdke: we could also try to detect if we are in kde or what
[22:11] <asac> but we need a safe fallback somewhere
[22:11] <asac> e.g. something that shows up when everything else fails ;)
[22:11] <asac> but maybe that "final" resort page should just be shipped in ubufox then
[22:13] <mdke> I think the final fallback should be the ubuntu page, that way we don't need to ship another page
[22:26] <mdke> asac: I'll ask around about what Kubuntu does and grab you again another time. cya
[22:27] <asac> thanks
[23:01] <nullack> Hi Mozilla Team :)
[23:01] <nullack> I see we are approaching Alpha 5
[23:01] <nullack> And I am a little concerned about the flash experience with firefox as we approach alpha 5
[23:01] <nullack> Many flash websites crash the browser, such as tv.com, anandtech.com
[23:02] <nullack> Please refer to this bug 262693
[23:12] <nullack> Please note Im on Im on revision 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu 1 of flashplugin and 1.1.0-0ubuntu2 which is the latest to main
[23:19] <asac> nullack: amd64?
[23:19] <nullack> asac: Yes
[23:19] <nullack> Folks Im rebooting, Ill be back
[23:47] <nullack> asac : Do you think I should try to replicate the problem under the nv driver instead of the nvidia one?