[00:07] <Steven_M> yay :) it's working :)
[00:35] <cannibal> Hi, i just installed mythbuntu 8.04.1 when i try to run the backend setup i get "Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)" using the password the setup generated can anyone help?
[00:50] <Steven_M> cannibal: did you set a password for your MySQL server
[00:50] <cannibal> yes i did
[00:50] <Steven_M> ?
[00:51] <cannibal> atleast i think i did do you mean for the root user or for the mythtv user?
[00:53] <Steven_M> that could be the problem, I didn't, unfortunately I'm a newbie, so I can't help much
[00:55] <Steven_M> can someone please help cannibal?
[00:57] <Steven_M> cannibal: I meant the root user?
[01:00] <cannibal> yeah i set the root password doesnt seem to help i tried to have the setup use the root user and password but i still get the access denied error
[01:00] <Steven_M> cannibal: is your frontend on the same machine as your backend?
[01:00] <cannibal> yes
[01:00] <SHADOW__X> i am having an issue with one of my tuners
[01:00] <SHADOW__X> it will work for days
[01:00] <SHADOW__X> then just stop locking
[01:00] <SHADOW__X> :(
[01:02] <Steven_M> cannibal: then I'd reinstall without a root password for mysql server
[01:03] <cannibal> ok i'll try that
[01:03] <rhpot1991> did you enter the mysql root password when it asked you for it?
[01:03] <rhpot1991> if you got that wrong then the db is not setup
[01:04] <cannibal> i entered it during the setup it didn't ask for a password after that
[01:05] <rhpot1991> mysql will ask you if you want one, then mythtv will ask you what it is later
[01:05] <rhpot1991> for root that is
[01:05] <rhpot1991> unless you had it previously configured
[01:06] <cannibal> hmm maybe i missed it is there a way to manually setup the db?
[01:08] <rhpot1991> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[01:10] <cannibal> ah that did it thanks alot guys
[01:10] <rhpot1991> no problem
[01:11] <SHADOW__X> my hvr-1600 just stopped locking on digital channels but my hvr-1800 in the same box off the same connect still works it just stopped working
[01:55] <pteague> is there someway i can get the frontend to not continually reduce the master volume?
[01:56] <rhpot1991> pteague: setup>general>3rd page there is a volume slider, change it from 70 to 100 or whatever you like
[01:57] <pteague> i'd rather get it to just *not* change it, considering i'm currently using it on my desktop ;)
[02:03] <rhpot1991> play with the settings there
[02:03] <rhpot1991> I think you can just turn the control off
[02:14] <bobbob1016> How can I get mythbuntu music not to autoplay when I go to the music option?
[02:34] <pteague> weird, i'm not getting any audio when playing a dvd
[02:46] <bobbob1016> pteague, If you're asking for help, might help to be more specific.
[02:47] <pteague> well, this is getting really weird, because now i can't get any audio... was loading up amarok to make sure something hadn't taken over my audio
[02:49] <bobbob1016> Did you try rebooting?  But still not specific enough, try figuring out which audio codec you are using, as in alsa or esd or pulse.  Sorry I can't be much more help, getting late.
[02:49] <pteague> alsa
[02:49] <pteague> although i was messing around with some settings so i'm wondering if something to changed that shouldn't have... although i thought i'd put everything back
[02:50] <bobbob1016> pteague, Try switching them, also try rebooting.  Not much else I can help with there.  But jacking someone else's question like that is a bit rude, just saying, no problem though
[02:50] <bobbob1016> Try switching to esd or something, that might help.  I don't know too much about those issues
[02:51] <Nostahl> hi all
[02:51] <Nostahl> how goes mythbuntu
[02:52] <pteague> bobbob1016: huh? oh, you missed my volume question prior to your entering :)
[02:54] <pteague> & i'm not sure how rebooting would solve an audio issue if it's only an issue in mythbuntu frontend... amarok works, kaffiene works, pidgin makes noises when people log on/log off
[02:57] <bobbob1016> Being specific helps a lot, I thought "because I can't get any audio...  was loading amarok to make sure something hadn't taken over my audio" reads like "I am currently unable to get any audio what-so-ever, even in amarok which I tried to see if I could get audio", better to say "...amarok to make sure something hadn't taken over my audio, and amarok plays fine"
 is there someway i can get the frontend to not continually reduce the master volume?
 pteague: setup>general>3rd page there is a volume slider, change it from 70 to 100 or whatever you like
[02:58] <pteague> & from there i started messing with some other things & turned on the dvd player...  not sure at which point the audio stopped working in the mythtv frontend
[03:00] <bobbob1016> Not sure, going to sleep now, sorry, early day tomorrow
[03:01] <pteague> ah, there we go... somehow the default device got set to ALSA:spdif instead of ALSA:default
[03:15] <SHADOW__X> anyone here know qam tuner issues
[03:42] <orkid> hi, i can't get amd hd2600 HDMI audio to work :S any suggestions? i unmuted the IEC output with "alsamixer -c 1"
[03:45] <MythbuntuGuest19> will the Hauppauge WINTVHVR1600 DUAL Tuner 1183 PCI Interface work on mythbuntu
[04:19] <ThatOtherGuy> I have a PVR-150 (_not_ MCE, standard version with irblaster/remote plug). Everything is working fine, including the remote, until I enable the IR Transmitter in the MCC - using the Hauppauge PVR-150 (Scientific Atlanta) option there, as my box is a SA. Once I enable that, the remote stops working; it looks like lirc never restarts, but even restarting it manually doesn't bring back my remote - only disabling the IR Transmitter 
[04:20] <ThatOtherGuy> Once lirc is restarted, irw doesn't seem to receive anything at all from the remote
[05:44] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, ok ok unban me
[06:41] <planeracer> hi
[06:41] <planeracer> is anyone here?
[06:42] <tgm4883_laptop> !hi
[06:42] <Zinn> Hi $nick, how are you?  Something we can help you with today?
[06:47] <planeracer> i have a problem with connecting front end to back end. anyway to fix that?
[07:00] <superm1> planeracer, start out by figuring out where the issue is.  mysql/mythtv or what
[07:00] <superm1> is this multiple machines?
[07:03] <planeracer> nope only 1
[07:04] <superm1> okay so then start out and see if you can connect to mysql
[07:05] <superm1> connect to mysql using hte information in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[07:05] <superm1> if that works, then take a look at your logs in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[07:05] <superm1> to look for permissions errors
[07:05] <planeracer> exact error is when i try to run watch tv : could not connect to the backend server-- is it running ? is the ip address set for it in the setup program correct?
[07:07] <superm1> so sql is working
[07:07] <superm1> check the backend log then like i said
[07:07] <superm1> most likely a permissions problem
[07:07] <planeracer> i connect  to mysql from terminal with no problem
[07:09] <planeracer> i'm new in this. how to look for logs?
[07:09] <planeracer> from terminal or?
[07:09] <planeracer> applications?
[07:09] <superm1> from the terminal
[07:10] <superm1> open it with a text editor such as mousepad, gedit, nano, geany, vim
[07:10] <planeracer> i just have to type that?  /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[07:10] <planeracer> cd /var....
[07:11] <superm1> well no graphical editors ocme on the system by default
[07:11] <superm1> so you should install mousepad first
[07:11] <superm1> and then mousepad /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log will open it
[07:13] <planeracer> ok. mousepag :)
[07:13] <planeracer> where is it?
[07:15] <superm1> sudo apt-get install mousepad
[07:15] <superm1> or use synaptic
[07:17] <planeracer> i opened with nano
[07:17] <planeracer> sudo nano mythtvbackend.log
[07:17] <planeracer> what i have to look in it?
[07:19] <superm1> look for errors about starting the backend
[07:19] <superm1> or why it's not starting
[07:19] <superm1> or why its crashin
[07:20] <planeracer> what i saw only no setting found for thi mashine's backendserverIP please run setup and modify the first page
[07:21] <planeracer> then connected to database
[07:22] <planeracer> running as a slave backend
[07:22] <planeracer> then on end error
[07:23] <planeracer> opening front end device fails no such file or dir.
[07:24] <planeracer> and no valid capture cards defined in the database
[07:24] <superm1> okay so you haven't ran mythtv-setup all the way through
[07:24] <superm1> you need to
[07:24] <planeracer> i think i did
[07:25] <planeracer> where to start then
[07:26] <superm1> go through all of the first set of options
[07:26] <superm1> add your card in the second
[07:26] <superm1> add a video source in the third
[07:26] <superm1> attach them together in the 4th
[07:26] <planeracer> idid that all. whent to scan and i got chanells
[07:27] <superm1> the most important one is the first page
[07:27] <planeracer> general?
[07:27] <superm1> make sure that the ip addresses used there are correct
[07:27] <superm1> yup
[07:27] <superm1> and run all the way through to the end
[07:27] <superm1> don't hit esc on it
[07:28] <planeracer> nope. first finish then esc
[07:28] <planeracer> how to figure is that a correct ip?
[07:28] <superm1> that's why - don't hit esc on it
[07:28] <superm1> the default ip is bound to localhost, which is fine for single machines
[07:28] <superm1> just make sure to hit enter all the way thru
[07:29] <planeracer> ops
[07:29] <planeracer> im back
[07:30] <planeracer> i have to ips local back end and master backend
[07:31] <superm1> okay
[07:31] <superm1> then you should be good now
[07:32] <planeracer> i have some channels on my channel editor
[07:33] <planeracer> damn same error
[07:33] <superm1> well check for other errors in mythbackend.log now
[07:34] <planeracer> do i have to stop backend before start frontend?
[07:35] <superm1> no
[07:36] <superm1> it stops and starts from mythtv-setup
[07:44] <planeracer> thanks. i need to work on it little more
[09:41] <canatella> hi
[09:42] <canatella> To test 8.10 alpha4 without reinstalling, replacing hardy by intrepid in  sources.list should do ?
[11:06] <tearor> in the mythtv documentation it says that newer kernels got the acpi wake up stuff under /sys/class/rtc/... and older got it at /proc/acpi/alarm
[11:06] <tearor> on my machine (running 2.6.24) it is in /proc...
[11:07] <tearor> and the other path only goes up to /rtc
[11:07] <tearor> is that a normal mythbuntu thing (got the 8.04.1 version)
[11:07] <tearor> ?
[11:18] <MythbuntuGuest18> Hi All ... could I ask for a helping hand ?
[11:23] <hads> !ask
[11:23] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[11:25] <MythbuntuGuest18> I understand, so this may be a standard format question but I have done my googling and faq hunting.
[11:26] <MythbuntuGuest18> I have a WinFast PxDVR3200 H card but linux does not see it anywhere. I have tried Mythbuntu but no luck. Any pointers ? Were to look, who to ask ?
[11:30] <hads> Not a card I've heard of but a quick search doesn't show up much relating to Linux support.
[11:32] <MythbuntuGuest18> I have found this http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Leadtek_Winfast_PxDVR_3200_H
[11:33] <hads> Yeah, so no support out of the box yet.
[11:34] <MythbuntuGuest18> Does that mean I have to hit the metal or I have to wait ?
[11:36] <hads> Yeah, pretty much either wait or try to help out.
[11:38] <MythbuntuGuest18> Thanks for your help. I will see what I can do, but at least I know what to expect now.
[11:38] <MythbuntuGuest18> 'ava good day
[11:38] <hads> No problem, g'luck.
[12:03] <mdkaneda55> having trouble installing mythbuntu 8.04.1 on a 2.8ghz celeron / intel board (hp)... not sure exactly the issue... but it won't boot live cd installer, so i had to go w/ alternate.. that installer completes successfully, upon first bootup goes into kernel panic... hard poweroff, poweron... recovery mode, now network doesn't work.. says hal isn't loaded when i finally got X up somehow...  it's a mess
[12:04] <laga> maybe hal segfaults? we've had issues with that in the past
[12:04] <mdkaneda55> now i'm downloading ubuntu server disc, gonna try to atleast get a clean server install and then install mythbuntu-desktop? that a bad idea?
[12:05] <laga> no, that might work
[12:05] <mdkaneda55> k, well hope all goes well.... so if hal is sefaulting, can't really fix it easy can i?
[12:06] <mdkaneda55> i tried the new thing in recovery mode - dpkg reconfigure , but since network isnt working, it can't download packages, tried changing /etc/apt/sources.list so it would just use the cdrom, but it kept insisting on downloading packages... heh
[12:07] <mdkaneda55> guess that wouldn't help hal tho anyways
[12:09] <mdkaneda55> well, burning the the server install disc.. got my fingers crossed already, hope it helps
[12:09] <mdkaneda55> hehe
[12:26] <mdkaneda55> new problem... after supposedly successful server install... seems to load up nice n fast, then immediately reboots, tried "recovery" mode and same thing happens...
[12:27] <mdkaneda55> doesn't even get me to a prompt, just loads up and reboots
[12:31] <mdkaneda55> Loading Hardware ... and boom. rebooting
[12:44] <mdkaneda55> recovery mode from cd gets me to a prompt, i did an apt-get upgrade and upgraded packages, but that didn't help... =\ any suggestions?
[13:16] <anaxagoras> hello everybody
[17:59] <dmandell> I've started having a strange problem with LiveTV, I can't say exactly when it started happening because I hadn't noticed until the last few days.
[18:00] <dmandell> Formerly when watching live tv, each program would appear under its own entry after it was watched.
[18:01] <dmandell> So if I'm watching livetv and leave it on channel 2 for 2 hours, I'll see entries for "Jeopardy," then "Wheel of Fortune," then "Numb3rs" and so on and so forth.
[18:01] <rhpot1991_laptop> if you hit menu while viewing recordings you can change the display/sort options
[18:01] <rhpot1991_laptop> perhaps something got changed there for you
[18:02] <dmandell> Now LiveTV records the first show and is unaware of when that show ends.
[18:03] <dmandell> So if I leave it on LiveTV, it acts as if there is a 9 hour Jeopardy program.
[18:03] <dmandell> The problem with this is that if I leave it on LiveTV for 48 hours, it will fill the entire partition, because it can't expire old livetv shows.
[18:04] <dmandell> Any ideas on what might be causing the problem?
[18:08] <gregL> dmandell, why not just schedule the programs then you won't have these problems?
[18:08] <dmandell> Because my fiancee doesn't necessarily know which programs she wants to watch.
[18:09] <dmandell> She wants to be able to watch LiveTV, which is reasonable.
[18:09] <dmandell> I know that the problem would be avoided if I never used LiveTV, but I'd rather fix the problem.
[18:11] <tgm4883_laptop> of course there is always the possibility that when in live tv, the shows were never intended to show up under the show names in watch programs, and that was the problem and it is now fixed?
[18:12] <dmandell> It doesn't really have anything to do with how they show up in "Watch Programs", it has to do with the fact that whatever show I start watching continues to record until the hard drive is full.
[18:13] <dmandell> If I start watching LiveTV with "Jeopardy" it just continues recording for 48 hours, until I run out of space.
[18:13] <tgm4883_laptop> dmandell, ah now I get it
[18:13] <tgm4883_laptop> sounds like you need to set a live tv timeout
[18:13] <dmandell> I suppose, but because this worked until recently (some time in the last week), I'm wondering what caused the problem in the first place.
[18:14] <dmandell> Where is a live tv timeout set?
[18:15] <tgm4883_laptop> dmandell, well unfortunatly it doesn't have a frontend to set it, it's something we will have to change in the db
[18:15] <tgm4883_laptop> do you have phpmyadmin installed?
[18:15] <dmandell> I don't think I do, what needs to be set?
[18:15] <tgm4883_laptop> sec, let me grab the info
[18:15] <dmandell> Ah, never mind, I found it.
[18:16] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[18:16] <dmandell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/202386
[18:16] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[18:16] <tgm4883_laptop> if you set the hostname to null, i think it works for all frontends
[18:16] <tgm4883_laptop> let me check mine
[18:16] <dmandell> That's also just a workaround though, LiveTV is essentially still broken.
[18:17] <tgm4883_laptop> I wouldn't necessarly call it a workaround, why would you want your live tv to record endlessly?
[18:17] <tgm4883_laptop> sounds like a hard drive killer
[18:18] <dmandell> The thing is, MythTV is set up to auto expire LiveTV recordings after 1 day, so if it's working properly, it just drops the old recording off the end.
[18:18] <dmandell> With it set up the way it is now, it's essentially working the way the old ring buffer worked (in versions before 0.19).
[18:19] <dmandell> I want it to work the way Tivo et al work, because that was the deal I made with my fiancee when we moved to MythTV.
[18:19] <dmandell> It has worked that way up until this week, I just want to fix it.
[18:20] <gregL> ask your question in #mythtv-users    they may be able to help..
[18:20] <dmandell> Ok, thanks,
[18:20] <gregL> np
[18:21] <gregL> or try the mailing list
[18:22] <tgm4883_laptop> heh, people fear change
[18:23] <gregL> I would just use a schedule,but hey thats me...
[19:07] <Lemont> does anyone have any experience connecting their ubuntu box to a CRT HDTV via dvi from a GeForce FX 5200
[19:12] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, I use DVI->HDMI to my DLP
[19:13] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, what is the issue?
[19:13] <Lemont> is dlp a fixed resolution like lcd/plasma, or variable like crt ?
[19:14] <tgm4883_laptop> what do you mean variable?
[19:15]  * tgm4883_laptop hasn't used a crt in years
[19:16] <Lemont> fox: do you use a geforce fx 5200?
[19:22] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, no, an 7800GT
[19:23] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, tab complete the names otherwise I dont see your response right away
[19:29] <Lemont> foxbuntu_vm: I don't understand
[19:29] <Lemont> tab complete?
[19:30] <Lemont> is the 7800GT a geforce?
[19:30] <foxbuntu_vm> if you start typing my name then hit tab it will complete it
[19:30] <Daviey> ie, Le<tab> = Lemont
[19:30] <tgm4883_laptop> Lemont, type the first few letters of a name in the channel then hit tab
[19:30] <foxbuntu_vm> awesome...3 responses to tab complete
[19:30] <Lemont> Hmmm, it looks like bersirc may not have that functionality
[19:30] <foxbuntu_vm> tgm4883_laptop, finally a question even you can answer
[19:31] <Daviey> !tab
[19:31] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about tab
[19:31] <tgm4883_laptop> !stab foxbuntu_vm
[19:31]  * Zinn stabs foxbuntu_vm with a rusty spork.
[19:31] <foxbuntu_vm> lol
[19:31] <Lemont> I don't understand what is happening right now
[19:31] <Lemont> haha
[19:31] <Daviey> ubotu is clearly a PoS
[19:31] <Lemont> foxbuntu_vm: is a 7800GT a geforce?
[19:32] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, yes
[19:33] <Lemont> foxbuntu_vm: do you have any scan issues - overscan / image not perfectly lining up on screen ?
[19:33] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, yeah..but that can depend on many more things that the video card
[19:34] <Lemont> foxbuntu_vm: did you get that corrected, or is it something that you must live with?
[19:34] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, it can be corrected but its such a minimal issue, that while watching TV and such its not noticiable to me
[19:36] <Lemont> foxbuntu_vm: what size tv do you have and what res. do you use on it?
[19:36] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, 50" 1080p
[19:37] <Lemont> foxbuntu_vm: 1080 x ?
[19:37] <tgm4883_laptop> Lemont, that is vertical
[19:37] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, 1920x1080 = 1080p
[19:37] <Lemont> ah, ok, cool
[19:37] <Lemont> also, if I have issues with the image lining up properly, how would I go about fixing that?
[19:38] <foxbuntu_vm> depends on the type of issue with the image, nvidia-settings, xorg.conf, mythtv frontend settings, TV settings
[19:38] <Lemont> and one more, my tv only can handle 1080i, will that be an issue? I didn't see a "progressive" or "interlaced" option in displayconfig-gtk in ubuntu.
[19:39] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, then just push 720p, it will look better on the TV
[19:39] <foxbuntu_vm> 1360x768 is usually the native resoultion it picks for 720p
[19:40] <Lemont> 720p will look better than 1080i ?
[19:40] <Lemont> interesting, ok
[19:40] <Lemont> its a 51", if that matters
[19:44] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, its interlaced vs progressive scan, the lines of resoultion will be cleaned and viusally better in progressive scan, HDTV broadcasts dont exceede 1080i anyhow and almost all are in 720p so it will look better at 720p
[19:45] <Lemont> interesting. I am familiar with interlaced vs progressive scan, but I didn't realize that the "hd discovery channel" I thought was so clear was actually in 720p
[19:45] <Lemont> ok, I'm sold
[19:50] <Lemont> foxbuntu_vm: have you had any experience with the "netflix" functionality in mythtv?
[19:51] <Lemont> I went to the option but it didn't have any user login fields, so I'm still in the dark a bit
[19:51] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, its just for Queue management very basic functionality and not very easy to use...
[19:52] <Lemont> doh, I was hoping to be able to use the "watch now" option from mythtv.  well thats disappointing.
[19:54] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, not yet...but for the next development Cycle I am planning on researching that
[19:54] <Lemont> is the big issue that it "requires" IE ?
[19:54] <Lemont> maybe a solution would be some behind-the-scenes IE in wine action
[19:57] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, I doubt that, it has a several factor point and will require allot of time to figure out if its even possible to implement
[19:57] <Lemont> ah
[19:58] <Lemont> foxbuntu_vm: back to the 720 x 1080i discussion - due to the fact that my tv supports 1080i, but not 1080p, can I definitely not run my tv at 1080i from my geforce's dvi port.  I guess another way of asking it is "can a geforce output interlaced video" ?
[19:59] <foxbuntu_vm> Lemont, its not like a DVD player...interlaced vs progressive scan is all handled by the TV not the vid card
[20:00] <foxbuntu_vm> the vid card just outputs a particualr resoultion
[20:00] <Lemont> really? I had no idea
[20:00] <foxbuntu_vm> and the TV processes it a certian way
[20:00] <Lemont> I see
[20:00] <foxbuntu_vm> but in DVD players (for example) it outputs the resoultion lines in a particular way taking the processing load off the TV
[20:01] <foxbuntu_vm> the reason I said to use a lower resoultion is so the TV will process it as 720o
[20:01] <foxbuntu_vm> 720p*
[20:02] <Lemont> oh I see, so the tv displays an incoming signal at the closest resolution. That makes sense.
[21:27] <kwilliam> This may be a kind of silly question, but why does the internal MythTV player not play as smoothly as VLC?  Linux doesn't like my onboard graphics, so I'm currently using the "vesa" driver.  I'm buying a graphics card anyway, but was curious why the Myth player stutters and freezes while VLC doesn't.
[21:28] <superm1> try changing interlacing settings
[21:29] <superm1> but i wouldn't trust anything using vesa at all anyway
[21:29] <superm1> you want hardware overlays or at least opengl overlays instead (ala textured video)
[21:30] <Lemont> An additional video question: are any geforce cards preferred over others as far as ubuntu is concerned, or are all geforce cards golden?
[21:30] <Lemont> I'm looking at this one, but I want to be sure ubuntu will be able to use the dvi/tv-out to my hdtv....
[21:30] <Lemont> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814136007
[21:36] <kwilliam> superm1: I just wondered if they used different algorithms or something.  Is the internal player xine or mplayer by default in Mythbuntu?  (I'll play with interlacing, btw.)
[21:38] <superm1> kwilliam, the internal player uses ffmpeg just like those other projects.  they've all synced at different times
[22:32] <kwilliam> Hey, I've got a question about MythWeb.  Is it possible to configure MythWeb so that it lets you schedule recordings, but not edit the database or MythTV Settings?  I'd like to let my roommates schedule recordings online, but not give them full admin ability.
[23:32] <tgm4883_laptop> kwilliam, no