[00:00] <nalioth> LjL: charsets, i believe
[00:00] <LjL> i'm confused, because last time charsets joined, he joined from mibbit, and floodbot didn't grant him access, because he was banned by nickname in #ubuntu
[00:01] <nalioth> let me look
[00:01] <LjL> [21:51:13] <ubottu> Match: %*!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c8fde25017b9f93 by jpds in #ubuntu on Sep 02 2008 19:50:11 (ID: 4133) <- if *this* is the ban the floodbots should have heeded, though, they won't.  a ban like that can't be traced to anyone in particular.
[00:02] <nalioth> yep, definitely charsets - flooded the heck outta the channel earlier
[00:02] <LjL> banning like that is completely useless though
[00:02] <LjL> x-6c8fde25017b9f93 is a session identifier
[00:02] <LjL> it changes each time you connect to mibbit
[00:04] <LjL> still, there *is* something wrong indeed.
[00:04] <LjL> [04:05] <FloodBot1> charsets: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <LjL> [04:05] <charsets> I LOVE UBUNTU
[00:04] <LjL> [04:05] *** FloodBot1 sets mode +zb %charsets!*@*
[00:04] <LjL> [04:05] *** FloodBot1 sets mode +b-e *!*@c-98-209-225-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net charsets!i=62d1e1fd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2107d54f2843ca88
[00:04] <LjL> here the floodbot detected a flood, muted, and therefore removed the +e and banned
[00:05] <LjL> but then
[00:05] <LjL> [17:47] *** FloodBot1 sets mode +e charsets!i=62d1e1fd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2be6097472f1774b
[00:05] <LjL> and that's still 62 d1 e1 fd
[00:07] <LjL> and /whowas gives: [01:06:14] [314] charsets i=62d1e1fd gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c8fde25017b9f93 * c-98-209-225-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
[00:07] <LjL> so it's not a matter of IP not matching hostname
[00:08] <LjL> ok, it's a floodbot bug. it doesn't recognize bans if there's not *only* bans in the command line
[00:08] <LjL> so -e+b is not recognized (but it uses it itself)
[00:08] <LjL> will fix
[00:10] <LjL> although... no, i'm not so sure they really aren't recognized...
[00:25] <jrib> LjL: floodbots not working?
[00:29] <LjL> jrib: there's just a glitch about Mibbit bans
[00:29] <LjL> ah, the flood
[00:29] <jrib> LjL: they missed Danny about 4 minutes ago
[00:29] <LjL> they work, just none was opped
[00:29] <jrib> ah
[00:30] <LjL> because i took away the one that was to the ##ljl playground
[00:41] <LjL> fixed
[03:17] <IdleOne> [22:16:23] * FreenoseJew (n=lolo@200.77.207.34.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx) has left #ubuntu ("Saliendo")   needs to be banned for his comment 20 seconds prior to leaving
[03:17] <IdleOne> from #ubuntu
[04:58] <Flannel> Nice...
[04:58] <Flannel> none hit
[05:33] <nalioth> klined
[07:00] <jussi01> moins!
[07:00] <Flannel> Howdy jussi01
[07:01] <jussi01> heya Flannel :)
[07:05] <jussi01> oooh, chrome drivers been opened :)
[07:05] <jussi01> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3304438601.html
[07:06] <Flannel> too many overloads of "chrome"
[07:06] <jussi01> hehe
[08:31]  * Myrtti giggles at -ot
[08:31] <jpds> LjL: I banned chatsets by his hashed IP ident.
[08:32] <Myrtti> Someone just aired my feelings
[08:33] <Flannel> mhmmmmm
[08:33] <Flannel> although, we ought to tell wols to stop being a dick.
[08:33] <Myrtti> We should
[08:34] <jpds> Invite him here?
[08:34] <Myrtti> Cause - HE IS BEING A DICK
[08:34] <Myrtti> All the time
[08:34] <Flannel> actually, we probably should.
[08:35] <Myrtti> Feel free to invite, Im going to get up the bed in meantime
[08:35] <Myrtti> If you want me present, wait 15min
[08:36]  * Flannel inserts prepositions where appropriate.
[08:36] <Myrtti> Thanks.
[08:37] <Myrtti> <3 Flannel
[08:37] <Flannel> Myrtti: you missed it earlier!  We had a fun little emacs party in -ot
[08:37] <Myrtti> Saw in my awaylog
[08:38] <Myrtti> Ok, bbl, shower time
[08:38] <Flannel> Myrtti: er... you weren't in thechannel?
[08:38] <Myrtti> Not going to take my phone *there*
[08:38] <Flannel> Interesting.  You were.
[08:38] <Flannel> I wonder what my tab complete was doing.
[08:39] <Myrtti> I was but ive got no backlog when connecting to proxy
[08:39] <Myrtti> Ill check back when im on lappy
[08:39] <Myrtti> Tata
[08:40] <Flannel> Myrtti: Oh, I don't really care about that.  I'm just wondering what my tab complete was doing.  since I had to type out your name.
[08:41] <Myrtti> Oh
[08:41] <Myrtti> Ok
[09:08] <Myrtti> shower fresh and dressed, ready for business
[09:09] <Flannel> thanks for not IRCing naked.
[09:10] <Myrtti> Flannel: and like you'd know the difference
[09:11] <Flannel> lag?
[09:11] <Flannel> five people joined
[09:12] <Flannel> I guess and a few people before that
[11:10] <Myrtti> so are we going to pull wols over?
[11:12] <Tm_T> wools
[11:12] <Tm_T> sheeps?!
[11:13] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, please do if he is being horrid
[11:13] <Myrtti> he was earlier, as someone complained about him in -ot
[11:14] <Myrtti> I'm ~busyish so I'm not watching what he is up to
[11:16] <Myrtti> GODDAMNIT
[11:17] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, i've commented to him. i'll probably get trolled here or #debian for it
[11:17] <Myrtti> either I use flashplugin-nonfree and crash with nspluginwrapper or I use swfdec and crash with gtk
[11:17] <Myrtti> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548993
[11:17] <Myrtti> GODDAMNIT
[11:17] <Myrtti> DIE DIE DIE DIE FLASH DIE DIE DIE
[11:18] <Seeker`> ...
[11:19] <Dave2> No, no, you've got it all wrong.
[11:19] <Dave2> We want Flash to -stop- dying.
[11:22]  * Myrtti kicks Flash in the groin
[11:23]  * Dave2 winces.
[11:24] <Myrtti> story from true life: I try to see the major newspaper webpage, and epiphany crashes so bad I have to kill it with kill -9, as all other methods fail.
[11:25] <elkbuntu> heh
[11:25] <Dave2> kill dash nine, no more CPU time?
[11:25] <Dave2> ...argh
[11:26] <elkbuntu> someone wanna kill -9 wols session in #ubuntu?
[11:26] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: you want a /emp kill -15 or /hellokitty kill -9
[11:27] <Myrtti> hellokitty is with the mode +b silencer
[11:27] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, remove altogether
[11:29] <Myrtti> remove, mute, remove and ban, remove and banforward here?
[11:38] <elkbuntu> nah, he's kinda calmed down
[11:45] <bazhang> what is the policy towards pasting totally unrelated spam links in #ubuntu
[11:46] <bazhang> ie what Ryder just pasted
[11:46] <Tm_T> erp
[11:54] <rodserling> sup hay can get unmute from ubuntu-offtopic plz thanks!
[11:55] <Myrtti> @bansearch rodserling
[11:56] <Myrtti> merh
[11:56] <Myrtti> fire fire
[11:56] <rodserling> he bans me for dumb reasons!
[11:56] <rodserling> It's not my fault.
[11:56]  * Myrtti runs to extinguish
[11:56] <Tm_T> rodserling: erp!
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ive been her eover an hour and dont see a mute
[11:57]  * gnomefreak forgot @bansearch
[11:57] <Tm_T> rodserling: what was this "dumb reason" ?
[11:58] <rodserling> I called mc44 a bastard jokingly
[11:59]  * gnomefreak doesnt think that is a "dumb" reason IMHO since its against coc and guidelines but i would leave it to ompaul
[11:59] <rodserling> so many worse things slide
[12:00] <gnomefreak> not if we see them
[12:00] <gnomefreak> but we cant see everything
[12:00] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: I agree in that, ompauls call
[12:00] <gnomefreak> thats why we have !ops
[12:01] <gnomefreak> so we become aware of anything that is against rules
[12:01] <rodserling> would that constitute an op call?
[12:01] <Myrtti> sadly, I can't be online or watching -offtopic all the time
[12:01] <gnomefreak> reit will call the ops in that channel
[12:01] <gnomefreak> rodserling: it will call ....
[12:02] <Myrtti> I wish I could clone myself to many instances
[12:02] <Tm_T> Myrtti: mmmm, could I get one or two then?
[12:02] <rodserling> Myrtti is a good op
[12:02] <Tm_T> rodserling: my little sister is good in many ways (:)
[12:04] <Myrtti> rodserling: lets play pretends for a while
[12:04] <Myrtti> pretend that you are back being an 11 year old
[12:05] <rodserling> ?
[12:05] <Myrtti> do you think an adult would tell you not to call people by names?
[12:06] <rodserling> The thing is, I'm slightly (ok, largely) insane, and I'm never serious.
[12:07] <Myrtti> most of the time - I think of myself being the "mother" at #ubuntu irc channels. I scold people for bad behaviour, but I also let them make some errors for their benefit
[12:07] <Myrtti> it's not condecending and I'm not looking people down my nose
[12:07] <Myrtti> it's just how IRC is
[12:08] <rodserling> I'm always in a joking manner
[12:08] <Myrtti> so, now you've been put into the corner to sit and think what you did wrong
[12:08] <Myrtti> have you given it a thought?
[12:08] <rodserling> indeed
[12:08] <Myrtti> it might have been wrong of ompaul to mute you - but he did have a point
[12:09] <Myrtti> and as I always say - Wrongdoings of Others do not justify yours.
[12:10] <Myrtti> just because someone else has gotten away with similar or worse behaviour, doesn't mean that it's ok for you to push your   luck with same
[12:10] <rodserling> you're right mom :D
[12:10] <Myrtti> now - as I know ompaul, I'm going to overrule his judgement on this
[12:11] <Myrtti> but, and this is a big BUT - if I have to scold you about calling people with names in the near future, you'll be put on ice again.
[12:11] <Myrtti> and for a longer time.
[12:11] <rodserling> alright
[12:15] <Myrtti> anything else we can help you with?
[12:15] <rodserling> oops woo woo I'm good thanks!
[12:17]  * gnomefreak thinks "dumb reason" implies he didnt think about his actions
[12:18] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: at that time atleast
[12:18] <gnomefreak> true
[12:19] <Myrtti> but I think +12hrs was a sufficient mute
[12:29] <elkbuntu> uh.... <FloodBot1> Terminator{a29} sent 1.5 messages while muted
[12:29] <elkbuntu> how does one send .5 of a message?
[12:29] <Myrtti> if it contains url
[12:29] <elkbuntu> ah
[12:29] <Myrtti> then it somehow counts one line less than one total message
[12:30] <Myrtti> ask LjL, he'll explain
[12:30] <elkbuntu> first time i've noticed it, heh
[12:52] <Myrtti> hmmm
[12:54] <Seeker`> hmm?
[12:54] <Myrtti> locke is having his "OMG GIRL" thing at -ot again
[12:59] <Pici> bleh
[13:05] <Myrtti> dear god I hate that
[13:05] <Myrtti> I really do
[13:06] <Tm_T> Myrtti: banforward
[13:06] <Myrtti> if she really is 18, and if she really doesn't know about anything else than "myspace", I don't think she'd really appreciate him telling every detail of their relationship and spreading links to her pictures to total strangers
[13:06] <Tm_T> aye
[13:07] <Myrtti> I almost feel like crying, thinking how I was 10 years ago
[13:08] <Myrtti> and how most men I could consider dating in Finland consider me weird because of the things in the Internet from 4-10 years ago
[13:08] <Myrtti> hell, even women consider me weird
[13:09] <Myrtti> I detest his behaviour so much I'm rendered speechless
[13:09] <Myrtti> If you can think of how to deal with him...
[13:09] <Myrtti> I've tried the most gentle ways I can
[13:10] <Myrtti> I just don't know what else to say to him except please stop, if she knew you were doing this, and understood the consequences, I don't think she'd appreciate
[13:10]  * Myrtti sighs and goes back to work
[13:14]  * Tm_T huggles and cuddles Myrtti 
[13:14] <locke> :(
[13:14] <locke> i've been in here for like 3 years
[13:15] <Tm_T> hi locke
[13:15] <Tm_T> locke: how can we help you?
[13:15] <locke> why i gotta get banned cause i'm talking about a chick in the offtopic chan
[13:15] <Tm_T> mmm, how did you talk?
[13:15] <locke> they were the ones asking about it and egging me on
[13:15] <locke> i said that she came over this morning and then claimed i started it afterwards
[13:16] <locke> i said she was the one that came over at 7am and got in bed with me, so shes full of it
[13:16] <locke> and then i got banned
[13:16] <locke> and they knew about it from a couple days ago
[13:16] <locke> they were talking about meatspin.com and i said there was nothing like that involved at all
[13:17] <locke> i didn't say anything explicit about it at all, and they were talking all about that crap, and then i got banned :P
[13:18] <locke> i've been a ubuntu user exclusively for like 3 years now and the vast majority of everything i say in the channel, even the offtopic ones, is just about ubuntu
[13:18] <Tm_T> doesn't matter if you break rules
[13:18] <locke> but i met this really cute girl on monday when i started class so i said so
[13:18] <locke> i didn't break any rules in the offtopic chan
[13:18] <locke> i would never even mention it in any of the official channels
[13:18] <locke> but i have friends in the offtopic chans
[13:19] <locke> so i told them about it, not in a dirty way, not in an explicit way
[13:19] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/43042/
[13:19] <locke> i just said that i met this girl
[13:19] <locke> i posted a pic cause nobody believed me
[13:19] <Myrtti> that pretty much covers my opinions about this
[13:19] <Myrtti> and hold on
[13:20] <Myrtti> let me get a quote
[13:20] <Myrtti> I loved this part
[13:20] <Myrtti> 15:11 < locke> i didnt spin her but i certainly did manhandle her tiny ass
[13:20] <Tm_T> ...
[13:20] <pleia2> ugh
[13:20] <Myrtti> not in an explicit way?
[13:20] <Tm_T> that's a ban without a question
[13:20] <locke> and fine whateer
[13:21] <locke> i dont care
[13:21] <locke> i like her i'm sorry
[13:21] <Myrtti> as I've seen you say earlier
[13:21] <locke> i cant stop thinking about her or talking about her
[13:21] <elkbuntu> you dont like her as a person, by the looks.
[13:21] <Myrtti> you don't care at all what the rules are
[13:21] <locke> i didnt think i was breaking any rules
[13:21] <Tm_T> erp
[13:21] <Myrtti> you are on purpose letting people to rail you to break them
[13:21] <Tm_T> locke: please reread rules then (:)
[13:21] <locke> i didn't post any pics that could be linked back to her
[13:21] <Myrtti> if not by word of the rules
[13:22] <Myrtti> then the spirit of them
[13:22] <locke> well i'm sorry
[13:22] <locke> i didn't mean to break the rules
[13:22] <Myrtti> locke: I do remember seeing you giving a link to her myspace page
[13:22] <locke> i didn't mean to offend anybody
[13:22] <locke> i thought i just gave a link to a pic
[13:23] <Myrtti> and google is a very powerful tool
[13:23] <elkbuntu> that's not what you said 10 lines ago
[13:23] <Myrtti> don't assume
[13:23] <Myrtti> if you give a link that's hosted in myspace
[13:23] <locke> well please don't use that against her, I don't want to hurt her in any way
[13:23] <locke> I might have been a little bit drunk
[13:23] <Myrtti> it can be tracked down quite easily to the page they're used in
[13:24] <Tm_T> locke: we don't, you do it by yourself for what I see
[13:24] <locke> I didn't mean to, that's why I hosted all pics on my own account today
[13:24] <Myrtti> great
[13:24] <Myrtti> for now, the ban stands
[13:24] <Myrtti> I'm not really in the mood to take it off
[13:25] <locke> i might nto have been in my right mind yesterday
[13:25] <locke> but please don't take that out on her
[13:25] <Tm_T> we don't
[13:25] <locke> I'll take a permanent ban from all ubuntu channels if that's what it takes
[13:25] <locke> but i really like this girl and I don't want anything to come back on her
[13:25] <Myrtti> it's not going to be permanent
[13:25] <elkbuntu> locke, this isnt being taken out on her. you're the only one who did anything that could end up against her.
[13:25] <Myrtti> I just wish you really consider things more in the future
[13:25] <locke> I don't know what exactly happened but she's really got me somehow
[13:26] <Myrtti> people have been telling you that you should be more careful with what you say and do at -offtopic
[13:26] <Myrtti> I personally remember telling you to be more careful, several times
[13:26] <locke> now that I know taht I did something that could affect her, I feel really bad
[13:27] <locke> i was kinda drunk most of the last 3-4 days honestly
[13:27] <locke> and i don't remember a lot of what i said
[13:27] <Myrtti> so, we have the opinions of three women here
[13:27] <LjL>  /topic We don't care if it was your brother, sister, dog, cat, girlfriend, boyfriend, mom, dad, distant relatives, friend, guest...
[13:27] <pleia2> locke: then let this be a lesson to you
[13:27] <locke> I will take this to heart
[13:27] <Myrtti> as Matthew Garrett so correctly said it
[13:27] <Tm_T> Myrtti: you didn't count me?
[13:27] <locke> I really don't want to hurt this girl, and I really don't want to hurt anyone else
[13:27] <Myrtti> "Don't be a dick"
[13:28] <locke> and I'm really honestly sorry if I said anything that is fucked up
[13:28] <elkbuntu> locke, do yourself and those you care about a favour. dont drink and IRC.
[13:29] <locke> elkbuntu, that's the problem, instead of going out and getting in real actual legal trouble when I drink, I get on IRC instead so I can't get in trouble legally
[13:29] <LjL> Myrtti: wait, who's the third?
[13:29] <locke> and that's what led to this
[13:29] <Tm_T> being drunk is not an excuse (:)
[13:29] <locke> but I'm still sorry
[13:29] <locke> and I'm not sorry to you guys
[13:29] <locke> I'm sorry to her
[13:29] <LjL> and why does my proxy keep playing games with me? did i actually just join the channel five minutes ago?
[13:29] <elkbuntu> if you're that much a danger, giving up the drink might be your other option.
[13:29] <locke> and I really don't want her to find out about it because I really care about her
[13:30] <elkbuntu> either way, this is going nowhere, and the decision stands.
[13:30] <LjL> oooh the logfile is owned by root :<
[13:30] <locke> elkbuntu, I've given up a lot more than you might think, and drink is the last thing I need to give up, and I'm trying
[13:30] <locke> you guys don't know a lot about me
[13:30] <LjL> as a matter of fact we don't
[13:31] <LjL> but that's precisely why we can't know, either, if you're, say, lying or something
[13:31] <LjL> so we don't treat you for who you are but only for what you do
[13:31] <locke> but I've gone through a lot of really serious issues in life in the last few months, and any drinking problem doesn't hold a candle to the other stuff that I've gone through
[13:31] <locke> but none of that matters to you guys
[13:31] <elkbuntu> locke, no we dont. we're not a counsellors, or punching bags, or customer service. use of the channel is not a right, it's a privelige which can be revoked at any time.
[13:31] <locke> so I don't expect any special treatment
[13:31] <pleia2> locke: if you can't control your behavior, you need to learn to deal with the consequences
[13:31] <Myrtti> One of the central messages was that a great deal of how to avoid putting women off computing can be distilled down to "Don't be a dick". This ties in well with Mako's restatement of the Ubuntu code of conduct as "Be excellent to each other"
[13:32]  * Myrtti goes back to work
[13:32] <locke> and I'll accept whatever punishment you want to give me, because I really do value being a member of the ubuntu community, and you guys really are my home in 'cyberspace'
[13:32] <Myrtti> well, you've been given a punishment
[13:32] <locke> i've been an exclusive ubuntu user since breezy badger, and I don't want to lose that
[13:33] <Myrtti> and that's the ban you are having at -ot
[13:33] <locke> but I understand I fucked up and I deserve to lose it for awhile
[13:33] <Myrtti> you're welcome back in a few days - until that you are banforwarded here to check if the ban has been lifted
[13:33] <locke> I just hope you guys will accept me when it's over
[13:33] <Myrtti> that remains to be seen
[13:34] <locke> so when should i show my head again?
[13:34] <Myrtti> today is wednesday
[13:34] <locke> and I promise I won't mention my girl again when you let me back
[13:34]  * Myrtti looks at elkbuntu, pleia2 
[13:35] <pleia2> a week seems reasonable
[13:35] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, i think he needs time to calm down and seek professional help, so yes, a week seems fine.
[13:35] <Myrtti> yeah, I was thinking 5-7 days
[13:35] <locke> I honestly have a lot more important things to worry about with my friend overdosing in my house an hour ago and stuff, but I honestly care more about being accepted as a member of the ubuntu community more than that
[13:35] <Myrtti> week it shall be then
[13:36] <locke> and since it was his fault and problem that isn't really my concern, though I do care about him
[13:36] <locke> OK, so next wednesday?
[13:36] <Myrtti> next Wednesday, by the popular vote of the excellent female representatives currently online
[13:37] <locke> well I gotta tell you, I'm not gonna get 'professional help' but I do understand what I've done wrong, and it doesn't make me feel good about myself
[13:37] <Myrtti> say, 1200 UTC
[13:37] <Myrtti> there
[13:37] <locke> ok
[13:37] <Myrtti> or ~about that time
[13:37] <locke> what is UTC
[13:37] <Seeker`> GMT
[13:37] <Myrtti> myrtti@kani:~/testing$ date -u
[13:37] <Myrtti> Wed Sep  3 12:37:02 UTC 2008
[13:37] <Myrtti> 2008-09-03 15:37:54
[13:37] <Seeker`> 6 days 23.5 hours from now
[13:38]  * Myrtti *really* returns to her work
[13:38] <locke> on next wednesday, I will get out of class at 11:15am alaska standard time, but I'll be meeting up with my girl and probably be with her for at least 3-4 hours, so I'll probably be back online about 4-5pm AST, or 5-6PM pacific (california) times
[13:40] <locke> regardless of how it might sound, i do make exclusive time to be with her for all the time she's in town and only get on IRC when she goes home
[13:41] <locke> so I'll log on wednesday after I bring her home and she's gone for the night
[13:41] <pleia2> that's fine
[13:41] <locke> I hope you guys don't look down on me for this
[13:42] <locke> I really do care about her, I just can't stop talking about her because she's the only thing on my mind 24/7
[13:42] <locke> the ONLY thing
[13:42] <Seeker`> locke: I think it would be best if you left now
[13:42] <locke> alright bye
[13:43] <Myrtti> do you think I overreacted with that?
[13:43] <Tm_T> nope
[13:43] <Tm_T> not a bit
[13:57] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, not at all, no.
[13:57] <elkbuntu> g'nite
[13:58] <Myrtti> nini
[13:58] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: nighty!
[13:58]  * Tm_T gives gnightyhug for elkbuntu 
[13:59] <Tm_T> mmmgh, I want hugs...
[13:59]  * pleia2 hugs Tm_T 
[13:59] <Tm_T> pleia2: +IRL but thanks (:)
[13:59] <pleia2> hehe
[14:11] <Myrtti> aw nice
[14:12] <Myrtti> locke personally apologizes
[14:13] <Tm_T> nice (:)
[14:13] <Tm_T> maybe worth commenting banlog?
[14:14] <Myrtti> I will as soon as I'm done with all the other junk on my todo list for today
[14:14] <Tm_T> good good
[14:53] <Myrtti> 12K     irkkiloki/freenode/locke freenode20080903.log
[15:05] <Tm_T> oho
[15:05] <Tm_T> Myrtti: cp to me
[15:56] <LjL> #ubuntu is pretty quiet these days or is it just me?
[16:00] <Myrtti> I'm been told some people don't recommend #ubuntu for support issues anymore
[16:01] <LjL> "some people"?
[16:02] <Myrtti> ah - nommity quick dinner that was
[16:02] <Myrtti> am yes
[16:02] <Myrtti> some people
[16:03] <Myrtti> individuals
[16:03] <LjL> right, which sort of individuals?
[16:04] <Myrtti> sensible long-term ubuntuists
[16:05] <LjL> and why don't they, and what do they recommend instead?
[16:07] <Myrtti> I don't know what they recommend instead, but some of the issues mentioned was <quote>about 50% of all the traffic in #ubuntu is ops moaning about OT or !language, it's a singularly humourless and generally not-fun channel</quote>
[16:08] <LjL> how is a support channel supposed to be humorful and fun?
[16:08] <LjL> i'm usually not having fun when i can't get something working on my computer
[16:09] <Myrtti> I'm not saying I agree - nor that I don't agree - but that is apparently one of their reasons
[16:10] <Myrtti> *shrug*
[16:12] <LjL> err, how does this work?
[16:12] <LjL> !-offtopic
[16:13] <Pici> !#ubuntu
[16:13]  * Pici shrugs
[16:13] <LjL> Pici: it strips non-alpha leading...
[16:13] <Pici> LjL: But aparrently not when it does the alias lookup
[16:13] <LjL> Pici: and apparently someone got that factoid in in the first place
[16:13] <LjL> !#test is a test
[16:18] <jussi01> Anyone have issues with me giving apachelogger ops in #kubuntu-kde4 ?
[16:19] <jussi01> considering its only going to be around till next release anyway
[16:20] <LjL> i don't have an issue
[16:20] <jussi01> great :)
[16:21] <Myrtti> lol
[16:21] <Myrtti> locke now stopped and guess how much log I've got
[16:21] <Myrtti> I kid you not
[16:21] <LjL> three terabytes?
[16:21] <Myrtti> no
[16:21] <Myrtti> 24K     irkkiloki/freenode/locke freenode20080903.log
[16:22] <LjL> he wrote a small novel huh
[16:22] <Myrtti> he did
[16:22] <Myrtti> only 295 lines though
[16:23] <LjL> then he wants to beat my long-lines record too
[16:24] <Myrtti> myrtti@xob:~$ wc irkkiloki/freenode/locke\ freenode20080903.log 295  4060 20822
[16:25] <LjL> 70 characters per line - i think he isn't beating me yet
[16:25] <Myrtti> true
[16:26]  * LjL doesn't remember where his own irc statistic site was
[16:33] <Myrtti> just a sidenote: I can not come up with a more annoying feature in an IRC bot than it queries and announces the titles of the webpages the URLs are mentioned on an IRC channel.
[16:33] <Myrtti> s/an/a legitimate/
[16:39] <Myrtti> !arabic
[16:40] <Myrtti> didn't someone already make a channel for that that wasn't -sa
[17:48]  * Pici is in an annoyed mood.
[17:49]  * Myrtti gives Pici a flower and witnesses in horror as Pici eats it
[17:49] <Pici> mmm... tasty
[17:49] <Myrtti> D-:
[17:50]  * Myrtti gives Pici a lollipop
[17:56]  * Seeker` has a phoe interview in 5 mins :O
[17:56] <Seeker`> *phone
[17:57] <jpds> Seeker`: Good luck!
[17:58] <Seeker`> thanks
[17:59]  * LjL annoys pici further
[17:59] <Myrtti> good luck
[18:00] <Myrtti> I've almost run out of espresso coffee :-<
[18:00] <LjL> oh i'm good at annoying
[18:00] <LjL> Myrtti, you need to do something for that addiction
[18:00] <Myrtti> buy more coffee?
[18:00] <LjL> not what i meant
[18:00] <Myrtti> I know it's an expensive habit
[18:00] <Myrtti> but...
[18:05] <Mez> Seeker`, who with ?
[18:05] <Mez> (and good luck)
[18:11] <gamin> hi, I have a question about the planet ubuntu and the responsible people for the planet. whom do I need to contact or what channel would be for this?
[18:12] <jpds> gamin: What did you need to know?
[18:51] <jussi01> right...
[18:55]  * Myrtti points at jussi01 with her finger
[18:56] <Myrtti> HE'S TIPSY!
[18:57]  * Myrtti is annoyed to the limit of screaming with her colleague
[18:57] <Tm_T> hmmm
[19:01] <Myrtti> why the hell do these people assume I'll do their work for them?
[19:01] <Myrtti> note: AT THIS HOUR?!
[19:03] <LjL> Myrtti: here, a caffeine pill
[19:04] <Tm_T> LjL: don't poison her
[19:04] <LjL> but she needs mercy
[19:04] <Tm_T> caffeine isn't mercy
[19:06] <Myrtti> !ot
[19:06] <Myrtti> !ot-#ubuntu
[19:06] <Myrtti> !offtopic-#ubuntu
[19:06] <Pici> :(
[19:06] <LjL> that's not an #ubuntu factoid, it's the main factoid
[19:06] <Myrtti> dear bot, go die.
[19:06] <jussi01> !-ot
[19:06] <Myrtti> br. Miia
[19:07] <Pici> boo
[19:07] <Pici> urns
[19:20] <ompaul> !ot
[19:20] <ompaul> no one fixed that :)
[19:20] <ompaul> hmm
[19:26] <jussi01> ompaul: dont you dare change it....
[19:26] <ompaul> jussi01, I dare nothing
[19:26] <ompaul> I am writing mail
[19:47] <PriceChild> LjL: a flooder
[19:48] <PriceChild> LjL: i did a status but no emergency mode or weird things, and they did the -zb
[20:28] <LjL> PriceChild: wait what are you talking about? are you answering yesterday's question?
[20:40] <PriceChild> LjL: yes sorry, I'm just slow
[20:40] <PriceChild> Who invited christel here?
[20:40] <Myrtti> EEEEEKKK
[20:40] <Myrtti> cooties!
[20:40] <LjL> PriceChild: i think she's been here for quite some time... she disconnected earlier today, though
[20:41] <LjL> [15:01:53] <-- christel has left this server (No route to host).
[20:41] <PriceChild> A likely story..
[20:41]  * christel tickles PriceChild 
[20:41] <christel> im soaked :(
[20:42] <christel> 7 hours, 5 of which were mainly rain -- to watch england bowl three bloody overs
[20:42] <PriceChild> It tipped it down today didn't it.
[20:42] <christel> not the best day of the summer!
[20:42] <Myrtti> SUMMER?!
[20:42] <Flannel> Myrtti: it is still summer for the nothern third of the world
[20:43] <Myrtti> hrmph
[20:46] <christel> hehe
[20:46] <Flannel> Mmmm, its september isn't it.
[20:46] <Flannel> Ok, so, maybe not technically summer.
[20:46] <Flannel> Although, the equinox hasn't happened, so, depends on which definition you want to use.
[20:51] <jussi01> if this is summer, I give up...
[20:53] <ompaul> PriceChild, the interwebz?
[20:57] <Myrtti> I WIN!
[20:57] <Flannel> Myrtti: You win the interblags?
[20:58] <Myrtti> yes!
[20:59] <Myrtti> jussi01: note: I'm shutting of the desktop computer
[21:00] <jussi01> ok
[21:00] <Myrtti> I hate my work chair
[21:16] <Myrtti> oh ompaul
[21:16] <Myrtti> I unmuted rodserling earlier today
[21:17] <ompaul> oh hi
[21:21] <Myrtti> many, many years ago I had a theory about people
[21:21] <Myrtti> the "Candyman" theory
[21:21] <Myrtti> if you mention their name or nick in a discussion, they'll appear either in flesh or in their online presence
[21:22] <Myrtti> right now - I really wish it would work that way.
[21:23] <ompaul> stephen fry
[21:23] <ompaul> ..........
[21:23] <ompaul> ;-)
[21:24] <ompaul> I expect if he joins from anywhere it will be italy
[21:24] <jpds> *** sfry has join #gnewsense.
[21:24] <jussi01> rofl
[21:25] <jpds> joined*
[21:26] <ompaul> hahaha
[21:26] <ompaul> hahahah
[21:26] <ompaul> evil you is
[21:39] <LjL> [22:39:00] <-- IRSeekBot has left this server (K-lined).
[21:39] <PriceChild> Happens.
[21:39] <Myrtti> Life is a beach
[21:39] <Myrtti> and then you learn how to spell.
[21:40] <Tm_T> beatch ?
[22:07] <Tm_T> LjL: awww, I didn't see that one coming
[22:10] <Seeker`> zoredache: how can we help you
[22:13] <zoredache> I had tried to tell ubottu about fusesmb, and it said the message was forwarded here.  I just joined, incase you guys needed more input
[22:14] <jussi01> !fuse
[22:15] <zoredache> right, but I was thinking a define specificall for fusesmb would be useful particuarly in #xubuntu since xubuntu doesn't have a built in smb file-browser like kde/gnome.  SMB browsing is a FAQ there
[22:20]  * PriceChild looks & msgs
[22:23] <PriceChild> Will sort out my side of ircc nominations tomorrow hopefully, few things irl to take care of.
[22:24] <Seeker`> PriceChild: I think you are getting confused - this *is* rl
[22:24] <Seeker`> the thing with outside and all that stuff is just imaginary
[22:39] <Myrtti> my Candyman theory failed
[22:39] <Myrtti> meh.
[22:43] <Seeker`> :(
[22:45] <Tm_T> Kood night kids
[22:47] <Myrtti> nini from me too
[22:47] <Pici> goodnight