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ubottuMarkopotamus: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.00:01
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ron_oeverytime we start a new system, are we stuck with manually configuring everything?01:35
ron_oI even tried copying folder and config files over to another username but everything was owned by my original username.01:36
ron_osure, I can give permissions to read/write anywhere, but everything is still owned by someone else's name... that would bother me.01:40
ron_oI'm just tired, I guess. I could probably change ownership of a folder recursively with some command line jargon.01:42
terminalIt would be cool to have a utility like OS X has. Heh.01:43
ron_owhat's that?01:45
ron_oI was hoping someone would know of such a tool in linux.01:45
terminalheh, OS X has a thing that will copy all of your settings, even apps, to your new machine01:46
terminaland i've found it to be pretty reliable :P01:46
ron_othat's where linux is lacking.. whos'e going to write such an app?01:46
terminalit would be nice :)01:47
ron_ocompanies like Apple and MS think from the user down, and linux thinks from the function up...01:47
kartoffelmenschi have added an alias to my .bashrc - how can i restart the file that the changes take effect ?01:47
ron_oif I were a programmer I'd probably write nothing in GUI. :)01:47
terminalwell, Windows has a file and settings transfer wizard. It's not as awesome as OSX's.01:47
terminalrestart your terminal, kartoffelmensch01:48
ron_okartoffelmensch, it's been awhile, but I think you just need to open up another terminal..01:48
kartoffelmenschorly :f01:48
ron_oit's such a pain to reconfigure everything.01:48
kartoffelmenschthanks .. but what do you mean by "its bee awhile"? =)01:48
ron_oit's been awhile since I messed with aliases.01:49
ron_oI don't do much command line.01:49
kartoffelmenschah =)01:50
kartoffelmenschwell, for i for myself dont like that commandline stuff as well01:51
kartoffelmenschbut somehow i downloaded a commandline irc client today01:51
ron_oI like it a lot.. it's just when I get into it I want to stick with it.01:51
kartoffelmenschi donna whats taking control over me right now01:51
terminalI prefer cli irc clients01:51
ron_obetter read that manual. :)01:51
ron_oI tried one and I didn't like it so much.01:52
ron_oI'm not a poweruser so it wouldn't really help me out much.01:52
terminalyou know what I miss.. the ability to switch monitors on the fly01:52
kartoffelmenschif i want to switch channels i have to type /window 501:52
kartoffelmensch:D01:52
terminalwhat client are you using kartoffelmensch01:52
kartoffelmenschirssi01:52
terminalalt+501:52
terminalor esc+501:52
terminal:p01:52
kartoffelmenschah :>01:52
ron_oI like to sit back too much in front of the computer, sometimes with beer in hand. :)P01:52
kartoffelmenschhaha yea for sure ron_o =D01:53
kartoffelmenschim doing that just right now :P01:53
ron_oI hear that irssi is one of the best.01:53
terminaldefinitely01:53
kartoffelmenschterminal what shell do u use to run it ?01:53
ron_othe great thing about command line is that in a pinch you can almost always access it. However, now with LiveCDs you can almost always get to a GUI.01:53
terminalI just use bash.01:53
ron_oshell?01:54
ron_owho uses anything but bash?01:54
terminalI like tcsh01:54
ron_oexcept ultra geeks from the past. :)01:54
kartoffelmenschmy problem is01:54
ron_oI was almost one of those.. ho hum.01:54
kartoffelmenschfirst: do you  use nicklist.pl ron_o ?01:54
kartoffelmenschwhoups01:55
kartoffelmenschthat should mean terminal01:55
kartoffelmensch=)01:55
terminalnope, I don't01:55
terminalI use /n01:55
terminal:P01:55
ron_oyah..01:55
ron_oI gotta get to my old HD and try oh try to save what's on it now.01:56
ron_othe partition table somehow went wrong.01:56
kartoffelmenschi'd really like to have a nicklist on the right side to see at anytimes what nicks are online but the standard xubuntu terminal has a bug while binding the backspace key when using nicklist.pl01:56
terminalwhat's wrong with it?01:56
ron_oyah, that's another thing.. the GUI is just plain better for IRC.01:56
kartoffelmenschit just doesnt work anymore01:56
kartoffelmenschits a bug01:57
kartoffelmenschand chatting without backspace is no fun01:57
terminalyou'll get used to the lack of nicklist01:57
terminal:)01:57
kartoffelmenschi feel so alone all the time :>01:57
kartoffelmenschseems like noone is there, especially because i am an oldsql quak3 player and the only channels i'm in are dieing more from year to year01:58
kartoffelmenschmeaning that all the channels i'm in have not more than 8 people all together =)01:59
terminalhaha yeah, I was going to say.. no need for a nicklist then01:59
kartoffelmenschthe only reason i open irc is because i used to do this since like 10 years now02:00
kartoffelmensch.. good ol times :-/02:00
ron_oyou mean you've been using irc since age 5?02:00
ron_ohehe.02:00
kartoffelmenschron_o: you know testdrive ?02:00
ron_ono.02:00
kartoffelmenschron_o: i mean testdisk02:00
ron_oyah, I've been studying the issue now.02:01
kartoffelmenschron_o: i think its the thing u need02:01
ron_oboth testdisk and photorec are very good.02:01
kartoffelmenschok02:01
ron_oI think so too but I want to make sure... Photorec will recover just about all my files... then I'll try testdisk..02:02
ron_otestdisk being a little more risky.02:02
kartoffelmenschok, i dont know any of these in particular but i just read a thread where ppl recommended testdrive =)02:03
kartoffelmenschtestdisk02:03
kartoffelmenscharrgh02:03
ron_oI've been studying the issue quite a bit as of late.02:03
ron_oI don't want to go rushing into anything.02:03
ron_oI have some pictures I want from that disk.. just about everything else I can replace..02:04
ron_omy dog passed unexpectadly and I had tons of pictures of him on there..02:04
kartoffelmenschand ur disk just died ?02:05
ron_othen my fricking filesystem started going wacky.02:05
ron_othe disk is fine.. I just can't find the files on it.02:05
kartoffelmenschi mean, did u kill it accidently or did the hd broke02:05
kartoffelmenschbrake02:05
ron_oit just went bad on all its own.02:05
kartoffelmenschmhh02:05
ron_othe HD is still fine... it's still spinning.02:05
kartoffelmenschwhat fs is it ?02:06
ron_ofilesystems are tricky bears..02:06
ron_oext3 and ext2..02:06
ron_obut most everything I care about is on ext3.02:06
kartoffelmenschwell i really hope you can recover those pics of your dog ;(02:07
ron_oindeed..02:07
ron_oI think I've nothing to worry about really. I have still quite a few pictures of him as it is.02:07
kartoffelmenschyou speak good english, where are you from? england/netherlands ?02:08
ron_oI kind of lucked out because I was testing to see what my HP printer could do and got a few pics on photo paper of him.02:08
ron_ohehe, American. :)02:09
kartoffelmenschah :)02:09
ron_ono Americans speak English well?02:09
kartoffelmenschwell i'm used to connect to european irc servers where usually european ppl stick around =D02:10
ron_oand Americans? hehe..02:13
kartoffelmensch:-p02:14
ron_oAmericans don't value speaking well as much as other cultures. It's about doing, not speaking. :)02:15
arooThat's a pretty large blanket statement02:15
ron_oand our President does what for anything less than a blanket statement?02:16
arooOne that I'd love to discuss but probably doesn't belong in this channel02:16
ron_oand even that one too. :)02:16
ron_oforgot I wasn't in ##politics anymore.02:16
kartoffelmenschhowever ya'll should join #love ^^02:17
kartoffelmenschron_o:  do you speak any other languages? (how old are you?)02:18
ron_ono, just English.02:18
kartoffelmenschdont/diddnt u learn other languages in school ?02:18
kartoffelmenschhere in germany you HAVE TO learn at least 2 other languages02:19
ron_owell it's required to take another languange to graduate many Highschools (mine did)..02:20
ron_obut I really didn't learn to speak it.02:20
kartoffelmenschand which language did u learn ?02:20
ron_oI live in middle eastern USA.. very few people speak anything besides english.02:21
ron_ospanish, of course. :)02:21
kartoffelmensch(sorry i dont want to prevent you from doing your work but its interesting to talk to ppl from other cultures)02:21
kartoffelmenschah yes02:21
ron_oahh, Germany of course.02:21
kartoffelmensch? :P02:22
ron_oit is interesting to talk to others from other cultures.02:22
kartoffelmenschstrange jokes :-f02:22
ron_oI hear Spanish and Italian are very much alike.02:24
ron_oweird, because I met some Spanish folks with a last name that sounded Italian.02:24
ron_oLatino's I should say.02:24
kartoffelmenschyeah they are alike02:25
kartoffelmenschterminal:02:26
kartoffelmenschi wanted to set irssi to beep when i get highlighted and entered the following02:26
kartoffelmensch"/set beep_msg_level MSGS NOTICES DCC DCCMSGS HILIGHT" and "/set bell_beeps ON"02:26
kartoffelmenschbut it diddnt work out, any ideas ?02:27
terminalhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/6091202:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 60912 in xfce4-terminal "No "beep" in irssi" [Undecided,Invalid]02:27
kartoffelmensch..... i love that02:28
terminal;x02:28
kartoffelmenschfirst the backspace doesnt work for the nicklist -> rob forgos the nicklist and now even the sound doesnt work02:29
kartoffelmenschand xterm wont let me set a font in a readable size at startup02:29
ron_oanyone use Chrome yet?02:30
ron_oon Windows, of course.02:30
kartoffelmenschi hope noone ever will :f02:30
ron_owhy?02:30
kartoffelmenschits from google!02:31
ron_oyou're a little late.02:31
wolsron_o: do you have a xubuntu question?02:31
ron_owols, no.02:31
wolsthen stop02:31
kartoffelmenschstay cool, the channel is dead anyways02:31
ron_ohe's right kartoffelmensch.. there's other places to talk about this..02:32
kartoffelmenschok yall think so ^^02:33
kartoffelmenschbut btw: anyone knows how to disable this pc speaker sound when the loginscreen appears ?02:34
kartoffelmenschits so fricking loud02:34
kartoffelmenschterminal: can one play a sound if i get highlighted instead of that nasty pc speaker beep ?02:38
terminalnot to my knowledge, kartoffelmensch02:39
kartoffelmenschthanks anyways :o02:40
terminalyep02:41
deakillohello02:58
deakillocan someone help me02:58
kartoffelmenschmaybe02:59
deakillomy battery monitor icon02:59
deakillois not working:S02:59
deakilloits showing 0%02:59
deakilloany tip?03:00
[phear]cripplerDoes anyone know why XUbuntu would be installing in German..? I am using the latest version of Wubi to do this. Is there any bugs I should know about?03:28
ChetyreNewbie question here...I tried using Wubi to install xubuntu and when it gets to the splash screen it freezes.  I'm now trying an install with the alternate cd to see if that works but when I rebooted it's just frozen on the boot screen of my laptop03:30
ChetyreIf anyone could help me out I'd really appreciate it!03:30
nubuntuanyone care to diagnose the problem with my screen?  see this image:   http://imagebin.org/2562103:32
[phear]cripplerDoes anyone know why XUbuntu would be installing in German..? I am using the latest version of Wubi to do this. Is there any bugs I should know about?03:33
* [phear]crippler scratches head thoughtfully.03:34
[phear]cripplernubuntu, your screen looks fine on my end.03:35
ChetyreNobody's around who can help?  :/03:39
favroChetyre: you're laptop prob needs some boot options - what brand/model03:41
favro[phear]crippler: you might have got your locale wrong during install?03:42
favro!pm | Chetyre03:42
ubottuChetyre: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.03:42
Chetyreok, sorry03:42
favronp03:42
[phear]cripplerfavro, I used Wubi, I really didn't do anything. :(03:42
ChetyreHere's the specs page for my laptop:  http://support.gateway.com/s/manlib/Notebooks/Solo5300/8508144/8508144.htm03:42
favro[phear]crippler: I never used wubi but it is supposed to be ok03:43
ChetyreIt installed Xubuntu, but when I tried to boot into it it would hang after it got to the HH splash screen03:43
Chetyre*using wubi, I installed xubuntu03:43
favroChetyre: if it's a wubi install I can't help - sorry - never used it03:44
ChetyreWell that's ok!  Because I tried with a boot cd03:45
ChetyreExcept yeah...it doesn't work.  I assume it's because it's not trying to read from the CD drive on startup03:45
favroChetyre: google brand/model ubuntu and have a read :)03:45
[phear]cripplerfavro, I know I have too, more than once... This is a first for me. There is also no option to install in any other languages. I did see something in English saying "Configuring language support" but it changed to install something else and went right back to German.03:45
favro[phear]crippler: I've never had that - wouldn't know where to start looking to be honest...03:46
[phear]cripplerWait I am seeing more english now that it's at 98%!03:46
[phear]cripplerwoot!03:47
Chetyrehehe03:47
favro:)03:47
[phear]crippler:( Login screen is in German...03:49
[phear]cripplerAnyone know how to change the default language?03:50
ChetyreBah, all I can find is gentoo and debian...nothing on xubuntu/ubuntu03:51
favro[phear]crippler: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/setting-languages/03:51
favroChetyre: debian stuff should be close03:52
[phear]cripplerSo, this is Dutch, not German... Wonderful.. Now to find out how English is spelled in Dutch. Wonder if that's Dutch: flemish, or just plain ole' Dutch...03:56
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[phear]cripplerThanks for the help favro, got it all fixed now.04:09
favro[phear]crippler: happy for you :)04:09
[phear]cripplerMe too!04:11
[phear]crippler<3 all04:11
kartoffelmenschhow can i run 2 commands with 1 command? i mean like 1. "xterm" and 2. "xtermcontrol --font=#6". So that can create an alias in .bashrc that i dont have to open xterm and then change to font every time i start it04:12
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: you might want to play with the ~/.Xdefaults file instead, if all you want to do is customize xterm04:13
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: otherwise, you can do: command1; command204:13
Odd-rationaleof: command1 && command204:13
Odd-rationaleor04:13
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: here's the best page i know of on ~/.Xdefaults: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Howto_setup_Xdefaults04:15
Odd-rationalebut if you google ~/.Xdefaults , you will find many more examples...04:16
kartoffelmenschoh Odd-rationale you wrote something sorry04:26
kartoffelmenschill read now =D04:26
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: yes. your irc client doesn't highlight you? :P04:26
kartoffelmenschnot yet, good sir, not yet :P04:26
kartoffelmenschthats why i need to configure xterm, because xfterm is buggy with irssi04:27
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: how so?04:27
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: have you tried weechat?04:27
Odd-rationale!info weechat04:27
ubottuweechat (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1 (hardy), package size 1 kB, installed size 56 kB04:27
kartoffelmenschif i load a script to show the nicknames on the right the backspace key doesnt work anymore (known bug at some terminals). second the highlight with a beep doesnt work as well with some terminals04:28
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: oh, you want a nicklist?04:29
kartoffelmenschno i diddnt know weechat, ive googled for many linux irc clients but i diddnt find any suitable to me ;)04:29
kartoffelmenschwell yes i do want a nicklist, who doesnt? =)04:29
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: then weechat is *definatly* for you. weechat is kind of like irssi with a nick list :P04:29
kartoffelmenschdo you use it ?04:30
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: btw, in your xfterminal preferences. you have to go under advanced --> Compatibility --> Backspace key generates and set it to ascii del04:30
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: otherwise bksp won't work in screen04:30
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: yes i use weechat04:31
Odd-rationalehttp://weechat.flashtux.org04:31
kartoffelmenschwow odd, you helped me alot :P04:32
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: plus weechat can do horizontal AND vertical window splits04:32
kartoffelmenschi diddnt use windowsplit yet :D04:32
kartoffelmenschweechat sounds really great, the only sad thing is i just set up irssi with hard work ;( now even the backspace key seems to work!!04:33
kartoffelmenschbut i will try weechat defenitaly tomorrow!04:33
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: well, weechat is a whole lot easier to set up than irssi.04:33
kartoffelmenschwhere are you from ?04:33
Odd-rationalemany things that are plugins in irssi come automatically in weechat04:33
Odd-rationalelike colored nicks04:33
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: me? i'm from the internet... :P04:34
kartoffelmenschoh really ??04:34
kartoffelmenschme too!04:34
kartoffelmenschbut im in the internetstate of germany, and its 05:34 am here, i really gotta go to bed :D04:34
kartoffelmenschlinuxed the whole night!04:35
Odd-rationalelol04:35
kartoffelmenschso where are You from my friend ?04:36
kartoffelmenschamerica ?04:36
Odd-rationaleyes the US04:36
kartoffelmenschso its 23:30 for you?04:37
Odd-rationale22:36:4804:37
kartoffelmenschai04:37
kartoffelmenschwell seems like you're talking to someone from the future right now04:37
kartoffelmenschi can help u out with lottery numbers etc. for a small fee04:37
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: are you using xubuntu 8.04?04:39
kartoffelmenschyep, why ?04:39
Odd-rationalejust wondering...04:39
Odd-rationalei'm on Arch Linux04:39
Odd-rationalebeen using linux long?04:39
kartoffelmenschall in all, not really04:40
kartoffelmenschive installed linux for the first time 10 years ago04:40
kartoffelmenschdebian or something04:40
kartoffelmenschthen tried gentoo04:40
kartoffelmenschand now xubuntu04:40
kartoffelmenschbecause ive never made it to be motivated enough to crawl along in text and config files04:40
kartoffelmenschfor gods sake it became easier now with ubuntu, because i dont have the nerves and the time to stick to those things all the time04:41
kartoffelmenschsometimes its funny, like tonight but maybe only because i had a few beers since i watched oliver kahns (germanies best goalkeeper and the best goalkeeper in the world) last game04:42
Odd-rationalewell, the first time i tried linux has about a year ago...04:43
Odd-rationales/has/was04:44
kartoffelmenscharch isnt supposed to be the easiest of all afaik04:45
kartoffelmenschpretty terminal/console style while installing apps and the system itself, isnt it ß04:45
Odd-rationalearch helped me learn...04:46
kartoffelmenschwhat window manager do you have? and did u use another linux before ?04:46
Odd-rationaleonce you know your way around, it is very easy...04:46
Odd-rationalei have xfce04:46
Odd-rationalei started off with ubuntu, a year ago04:46
kartoffelmenschis there any remarkable speed difference ?04:49
Chetyrequestion:  I burned the xubuntu alternate install to a CD with poweriso.  was there anything special I should have done to burn it? it doesn't seem to be working04:49
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: yes. definately...04:50
favro!md5 | Chetyre04:50
ubottuChetyre: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows04:50
kartoffelmenschwhat CPU/RAM do you have Odd-rationale ?04:51
kartoffelmenschand at which tasks do you recognize a speed difference?04:52
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: 1.8 ghz and 1 gb ram04:52
kartoffelmenschi really need to got to bed but i'm curious =)04:52
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: well arch is optimized for i68604:52
kartoffelmenschdoes that mean 64bit ?04:53
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: you can /msg me if you are interested as this is ot...04:53
Odd-rationalekartoffelmensch: no04:53
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nubuntu[phear], sorry had to run away for a few, don't you think the rendering looks odd within the browser panels?  like the type in the grey bars, etc... @  http://imagebin.org/2562105:27
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OmgItsAShar1ok  guys i just installed xubuntu via terminal on ubutu and it just loaded right into ubuntu when i restarted the pc08:52
OmgItsAShar1how do i get it to go into xubuntu08:52
ushimitsudoki1OmgItsAShar1: i told you check the "Settings" at the login manager and make sure you select XFCE08:52
ushimitsudoki1OmgItsAShar1: did you try that?08:53
OmgItsAShar1lame @ me08:53
OmgItsAShar1ok brb hahaha08:53
ushimitsudoki1OmgItsAShar1: you don't need to restart the PC, just log out and log back in08:53
OmgItsASharkhmmm i  thihnk i like this08:58
OmgItsASharkit seems alot let customizable in terms of preinstalled thhemes08:59
zynergianyone on a ps309:03
Rakeerzynergi: yes what's up?09:37
Rakeeralso there is a channel #ubuntu-ps309:37
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generalsnusHeyas, I am trying to make a "launcher" that will open a location on the computer.. like in Windows: C:\Work\%username%\docs .. is this variable possible in linux?09:50
ushimitsudoki1you can add bookmarks to the places menu by editing ~/.gtk-bookmarks09:51
ron_oI'm at a loss why when I create new users my applications menu on xfce is the same...10:07
ron_ohmm, must get that info from /usr/bin I suppose.10:08
favrowhy would your menu change when you create a new user?10:09
ron_oI was wanting to try and run some test applications on another user. But it appears that if I change an app in the new user it would change everywhere.10:10
ron_oyah.. true.10:10
ron_oI thought it would change because you don't have any .<data> files under the new name.10:10
generalsnusin xubuntu when a user inserts a usb-drive, it mounts in /media/"username"/usbdisk      how can i change this, so it mounts in the users home?11:43
generalsnusif i use nautilis it works ok tho11:44
wigrenHi all, I need to install VLC on an Xubuntu computer that has no internet connection. I have VLC installed on another Xubuntu system, but I'm not sure how to transfer it.12:10
favro!aptoncd12:12
ubottuAPTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers12:12
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Ben_Cshello14:31
Ben_Cscan i please have opinions about the most popular programming language nowadays?14:31
Chaser_Ben_Cs: C is what everybody here would say. But its off topic here ...14:43
Chaser_!OT14:43
ubottu#xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!14:43
TheSheepChaser_: not to mention he already left :)14:45
Chaser_TheSheep: OOps14:46
bytor4232aha!  I finally solved the nm-applet + gdm + autologin problem.16:05
bytor4232I had to install seahorse, then set the keyrings to blank.16:07
bytor4232That keyring popup was driving me mad.16:10
floatinghi. i just tried to resize my ntfs partition in xp with partition magic. it required a reboot, and while it rebooted, the grub dont work anymore. says: grub loading.. error 19. or error 15 or so17:02
floatingnow im on xubuntu live cd17:02
floating:-o17:02
floatingi wonder how i can fix my grub17:03
wols_floating: reinstall grub17:07
wols_!grub > floating17:07
ubottufloating, please see my private message17:07
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generalsnusI have a lot of users in my system, but all user's /home have gotten their permission reset.. i was moving the home folders to a new server...  how can i chown all the /home folders?  the home folders is named the same as the username.  i have like 500 users.. so doing it 1 by one..is to much17:34
TheSheepcd /home; for $i in *; do chown $i $i; done17:35
TheSheepand next time just tar the direcotries before moving them17:36
zoredacheyou might want a -R on that chown17:38
JinKazamahi all17:38
zoredachehello17:40
JinKazamaI have installed xubuntu on my full hard drive. how I can to resize the partition to free up space for another os ? is there some application for this ?17:43
floatingthx it worked17:43
floatingtheres gparted17:44
JinKazamaI have installed xubuntu on my full hard drive. how I can to resize the partition to free up space for another os ? is there some application for this ?17:44
Odd-rationaleJinKazama: boot into the livecd and use gparted17:44
zoredacheit would be wise to make a backup as well17:45
JinKazamahm. is there a tool for backup ?17:46
zoredachelots of them... tar, dirvish, amanda,  Unless you actually have backup hardware just using cp or rsync to copy to a external hard disk is better then nothing17:47
JinKazamaI see. thanks :)17:47
WooI'm writing a folder to my Linux box. That goes ok, but if I click on another folder the intial transfer stops. Any idea on settings I can change?17:55
WooEven if that other folder I click on is on another hard drive.17:55
zoredache'writing a folder'?17:55
WooI copy/pasted a folder from my Windows machine to it.17:56
zoredacheah17:57
zoredachehrm...  that doesn't sound good17:57
WooYeah, it's really annoying because I stream video from it. Also, sometimes the video stream stops after 2-3 secs, and I must press stop and try again. Usually it works on the secound time or so.17:58
zoredachehow are you accessing your windows box?18:00
zoredachehow are you connected?18:00
zoredachewired/wireless?18:00
WooWired through two switches.18:01
zoredachebut what smb tool are you using?  fusesmb, or something else?18:02
WooSorry, what?18:02
zoredacheyou said you where copying from your windows box.  What SMB client are you using to connect?18:03
WooWindows explorer18:03
WooI guess18:03
zoredacheeh?  So you are doing this FROM the windows box?18:04
WooYes18:04
zoredachethat was not clear in your initial question at all... I was suspecting bugs in thunar or something...18:05
DatzI want to install xubuntu on to my flash disk, but the flash disk isn't identified  as an option.  Any suggestions?18:05
Datzoption to install to*18:05
WooWell it shouldn't be able to keep more than one connection, shouldn't it?18:05
zoredacheYeah18:06
WooThen it is a bug after all?18:07
zoredachehave you setup a firewall on the linux box?18:08
WooNot that I know of18:08
nubuntuguys i am trying to replace a gif file within my magento config.  the new gif is on the desktop, and i have to get it to: var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/________18:08
zoredacheDatz: I don't know much about that.  There are many howtos listed on google if you search for 'ubuntu flash install'18:09
nubuntui have the filemanager open, but i don't know how to replace the existing  logo.gif   with  mylogo.gif18:09
Datzzoredache, thanks, I have been reading them over for awhile now.  :)18:09
DatzI think the problem is getting the USB device recognized, or mounted.18:10
DatzI don't think I see it with "sudo fdisk -l"18:11
zoredacheDoes it work in other computers?  It is rare but I have had bad usb drives18:12
Datzzoredache, yes it seems to work fine in windows machines18:12
WooThere is a firewall on the router though, but the switches are inside the LAN18:12
zoredacheDatz: does it have that wacky u3 garbage on it?18:13
Datzzoreache, I don't know what that is.18:13
* Datz searches18:13
zoredacheu3 is basically a way of having portable apps on a usb drive but it a stupid way18:14
DatzI don't think it has anything like that installed on it.18:14
nubuntuguys i am trying to replace a gif file within my magento config.  the new gif is on the desktop, and i have to get it to: var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/________18:14
zoredachenubuntu: copy it there.  sudo cp blah blah18:15
nubuntuplease can someone tel me how to accomplish this18:15
DatzThing is, when I tried to install Xubuntu on it the first time, it may have worked, but I thought it was hanging on the load screen and reformatted it.  Now I can't get it as an option to install to now.18:16
nubuntui have tried to copy the gif from the desktop, but then when i click on the target file it doesn't offer me option to paste in18:16
zoredachenubuntu: you probably don't have permissions there.  Use the command line.18:17
Datznubuntu, you have to move it with commands, search google for it, or look what zoredache said earlier18:17
zoredachenubuntu: it is a good idea, but you could also run 'gksu thunar' which will give you a file browser with root permissions18:17
zoredacheDatz: Since you said it was working under windows. I suspect I would reformat it there just so it is clean.  I don't know that this will help much though18:24
Datzthanks again zoredache, but I have reformatted it and checked it for errors on my windows system ;)18:25
Datzgone from fat32 to NTFS to fat32 to NTFS18:26
DatzAs you can see I really want to get it to work18:26
zoredacheIs any other usb device working on the linux box?18:26
Datzzoredache not now18:27
nubuntuum, still don't understand .. isn't thunar the 'file manager' i have open?18:27
Datznow I am just trying to mount random things in /dev like sdc and usb...  :)18:28
zoredachethat is not likely to be very useful18:28
nubuntuya, it is thunar18:28
Datzlol, ok18:28
Datzwhat to do next...18:28
zoredachedisconnect and reconnect the drive, then look at the output of dmesg perhaps18:29
zoredachetry seeing if lsusb shows the drive18:29
Datzoutput is /var/log/message or something?18:29
nubuntuzoredache: ok, i have the terminal open18:29
nubuntubut i don't understand yet the complete steps you're telling me18:30
Datzzoredache, I see the disk under /dev/disk/by-id  as usb-Generic_STOREAGE_DEVICE_...18:32
Datznubuntu see this : http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fileman.html18:32
nubuntudatz, ok, i go look, thx18:33
Datznp18:33
nubuntuDatz: ok, so if file on my desktop is called mylogo.gif, and i want that into var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif , is the command : cp mylogo.gif var/www.magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif  ?18:39
Datznubuntu, type "pwd"18:40
Datzin your console18:40
Datzwhat is the output?18:40
Datzcd to the Desktop then run that command you pasted18:41
nubuntuthe output is /home/nubuntu18:41
Datzcd /home/nubuntu/Desktop18:41
Datzthen run that command18:41
nubuntunothing has to separate 'mylogo.gif' and 'var/www/magento...'?18:42
Datzyes one space18:42
nubuntuok, lemme try18:42
nubuntunubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ cp penniescount.php.gif var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif cp: cannot create regular file `var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif': No such file or directory nubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$18:47
nubuntudatz, what did i do wrong?18:48
Datzis your path right, do you have penniecount.php on your Desktop?18:49
Datzoops penniescount.php.gif18:49
Datzzoredache, when I look at properties->General of "/dev/disk/by-id/usb-Generic_STOREAGE_DEVICE_..." I see Link Target "../../sdc"  but when I try to mount sdc I get "mount: special device /dev/scd des not exist"18:50
zoredachedo an ls /dev/sdc and see if it does exist18:52
DatzIts there18:53
Datzor it outputs "/dev/sdc"18:54
Datzso its not mounted there18:54
zoredacherun sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sdc18:55
nubuntuyes, it is on the desktop18:55
Datzzoredache, /dev/sdc : No medium found18:56
Datzsfdisk: cannot open /dev/sdc for reading18:56
nubuntujust tried again to make sure i spelled everything properly, and i did18:57
nubuntudatz, is there another way, a second option?18:59
Datzunbuntu, try sudo cp....19:00
nubuntuwhen it says no such file or directory does it mean the target file? or the replacement file?19:01
nubuntuk, lemme try19:01
nubuntunope, still says no such file.  is it possible i am not properly identifying the target?19:03
nubuntui mean, should there be something ahead of 'var'?19:03
Datzno19:05
DatzI don't know what the "cp: cannot create regular file" error is19:05
Datznubuntu, try not renaming it to logo.gif19:06
Datzbut keep it as penniescount.php.gif19:07
nubuntuso end the command at /images   ?19:07
Datzyea19:07
nubuntuk, lemme try19:07
nubuntuno such file or directory .... arrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh19:09
Markopotamusfavro: Thanks for the help last night, t'were grand. S' working nicely now.19:09
nubuntudatz, can you look at my file manager and see if i am expressing properly?  http://imagebin.org/2565419:14
Datznubuntu, looks right19:17
nubuntuis there another way for me to get this file into that tree?19:18
Datzmaybe try this "sudo cp /home/nubuntu/Desktop/penniescount.php.gif var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images19:19
Datzwithout that lonely quote19:19
* nubuntu can't understand why such a simple thing could be so, well, not simple19:19
Datzhaha, once you get it down it is not bad19:19
Datzit would be easier to start moving somthing a short distance19:20
Datzand without extensions like php.gif  ...I don't know if that has anything to do with it19:20
Datzzoredache, I think I found the problem, when I run dmesg I get "usb 8-1: device not accespting address 6, error -110"19:23
DatzI am so out of ideas19:32
Datzdamn new 16GB flash Voyager19:33
Datzshould have just bought a 2.5" HDD and a case with usb and sata19:33
Datzesata*19:34
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Markopotamu1I want my Xubuntu laptop to exchange files over the network with my WinXP PC. I've tried but so far am failing to make it work. Any help would be really appreciated.21:48
favro!samba21:49
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.21:49
Markopotamu1favro \o/ Mey hero21:50
favrohehe21:50
* Markopotamu1 wanders off to give it a go21:50
Markopotamu1I must say I'm really starting to like Xubuntu21:52
Markopotamu1although I wouldn't have had a clue how to sort myself out without your help last night, favro21:52
favroMarkopotamu1: it takes a little getting used to but I enjoy it :)21:53
Markopotamu1so - sudo apt-get install smbfs in a terminal?21:54
zoredache!fusesmb21:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fusesmb21:55
zoredache!search fusesmb21:55
ubottuFound:21:55
zoredacheMarkopotamu1: try fusesmb perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb21:56
* Markopotamu1 takes a look21:56
* Markopotamu1 really needs to learn some terminal syntax and acronyms21:59
zoredachehave you seen http://www.linuxcommand.org/ yet?22:00
favro!tab | Markopotamu122:00
ubottuMarkopotamu1: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:00
omfgitsasharkwhats a good iso mounter for windows xp so i can install xubuntu22:02
zoredachewhy would you need to mount an iso in xp?22:02
omfgitsasharkso i can have a cd to install xubuntu22:02
favrovmware?22:02
zoredacheyou are supposed to write the iso directly to the disk.  you don't need to mount it22:02
favrowubi?22:03
omfgitsasharkwhat do you mean ... ecause i have a lappy with a blank hd22:03
omfgitsasharkso i am burning xubuntu onto a disk mounted so i can drop it into the new lappy then install it22:03
omfgitsasharkso....22:04
zoredacheso use something like isorecorder http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm to write the iso to a blank disk22:04
Markopotamu1omfgitsashark: DAEMON Tools22:05
imneatxfce theme overrides the firefox 3 default - any way to prevent this from happening and get the default firefox 3 look back?22:05
omfgitsasharkzore have you used that isoecorder... is it easy to use22:05
favro!tab | omfgitsashark22:06
ubottuomfgitsashark: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:06
zoredacheyes, I have used it... it is easy to use22:07
zoredacheyou right click on the iso and choose 'create cd'22:07
omfgitsasharkhahha that is easy22:08
omfgitsasharki got this bitchen ibm x40 with nothing on the hd for 80 bucks22:08
jimmy_birerhi22:15
jimmy_birercan i run xubuntu in 128 Mb of ram?22:15
jimmy_birerhelp!22:15
jimmy_birerplz22:16
zoredachejimmy_birer: you can right, but you can't install with the livecd on 12822:16
zoredacheyou can *run*22:16
zoredache!lowmem | jimmy_birer22:16
ubottujimmy_birer: For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.22:16
pingu_Hallo, somebody know how to make bigger entries in XFCE menu?22:17
jimmy_birerenetr -rm -rf in terinal22:18
jimmy_birerenter -rm -rf22:18
jimmy_birerin termina;22:18
jimmy_birer:D::D22:18
zoredachejimmy_birer: things like that will get you kicked and banned22:19
RyanPriorjimmy_birer: That doesn't sound like a good idea.22:19
RyanPrior!ops22:19
ubottuHelp! somerville32, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, Gloubiboulga, Nalioth, Seveas, tonyyarusso,  PuMpErNiCkLe, apokryphos or gnomefreak22:19
jimmy_birerfine22:19
jimmy_birertnx for warning22:19
jimmy_birer...22:20
jimmy_bireranyone knows a os like xubuntu?22:20
jimmy_birerfor min system requirements22:20
zoredachejimmy_birer: did you look at those links?22:21
jimmy_bireryes,i did22:21
jimmy_birerand it said 19322:21
jimmy_birer19222:21
naliothjimmy_birer: please be civil22:21
jimmy_birerand i have 12822:21
Chaser!civil22:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about civil22:22
Chaseroops22:22
zoredachethat was on the system requirements link.  The low memory link also suggests flux, and how to slim down things22:22
naliothChaser: /msg ubottu CoC  or /msg ubottu guidelines22:22
Chaserthanks nalioth22:23
jimmy_bireralternate  install cd requires just 64 mb of ram,after installing i need 192 mb of ram?22:25
jimmy_bireror it runs with 128?22:25
zoredacheI beleive it only needs 3222:25
zoredacheafter install it kinda depends on what you acutally plan on running22:25
jimmy_bireri will not run visual effects22:26
Markopotamu1jimmy_birer: I used the alternate instal CD yesterday. Just go with it, you'll be fine.22:26
zoredacheyeah, but will you try and run memory hungry applications like firefox22:26
jimmy_birerno22:26
jimmy_bireri will make a tour in start menu22:26
jimmy_bireri will watch it copule of hours22:26
jimmy_birerif i install 10 Gb,i will  run it faster or slower?22:28
Markopotamu1Won't make any difference, will it?22:28
jimmy_birertnx markopotamu122:28
jimmy_bireryou made me courageous22:28
jimmy_bireryou rock22:29
Markopotamu1As long as it has enough, any extra space will just be there if you needed.22:29
jimmy_birertnx much much much:-*22:29
Markopotamu1haha thanks, jimmy_birer. Go on! Have fun :p22:29
jimmy_birerquestion of yer:will my pc die if i run ubuntu+compiz+firefox with 5 tabs in 64 mb pc?22:30
jimmy_bireranswer:surely:d22:30
zoredacheI doubt you have a video card that could do xgl on that hardware.  If you have swap setup your drive will be constantly swapping.  If you don't have swap setup then stuff will keep being killed by the kernel22:31
jimmy_birerno22:32
jimmy_birermy computer will burn!22:32
jimmy_bireror explode22:32
jimmy_birer:d22:32
jimmy_birerwill be invidious22:32
jimmy_birer:d22:32
jimmy_birerjust goodbye22:32
jimmy_bireri go to tryin XUbunTu22:33
* Markopotamu1 whistles.22:33
Markopotamu1Wow, that guy was easily pleased.22:33
zoredachemaybe22:35
RyanPriorMore likely a troll. He told somebody to remove -rf22:35
Markopotamu1A kid who just inherited his brothers old computer after a big sugary pudding?22:37
Markopotamu1sugary pudding for kids and computers don't mix well :|22:37
Markopotamu1Hrm. Foiled again. I can't seem to edit the /etc/fstab file, as instructed in "mountin unproducted (guest) network folders section of the samba tutorial on the wiki22:41
Markopotamu1Ouch, sorry about the typos. I'm not used to this pokey little laptop keyboard.22:42
zoredachedid you use sudo/gksu to try and open the file?22:44
Markopotamu1zoredache: ah, no, I just went through the file system..22:51
Markopotamu1zoredache: As you may have guessed, I'm a newbie. Just installed Xubuntu 8.04 yeaterday. No prevoius Linux experience.22:52
yamatteo_fullstohi, i have some resolution problem with xubuntu. Is there something special I should know when configuring fglrx?23:05
favroyamatteo_fullsto: how did you install fglrx?23:08
yamatteo_fullstoi tried following the wiki guide23:09
favroI thought sudo crontab -e would let me edit /etc/crontab but it doesn't...23:09
favroyamatteo_fullsto: did you add fglrx to /etc/modules?23:10
yamatteo_fullstoerg... i don't think i did. Not intentionally23:11
favroyamatteo_fullsto: if it is the wiki I'm thinking of that is a necessary step23:11
yamatteo_fullstoi stopped when fglrxinfo said:23:12
yamatteo_fullstoOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project23:13
yamatteo_fullstoetcetera23:13
favroyamatteo_fullsto: then on reboot the module won't be loaded - has it worked ok at all yet?23:13
pist0l-fishhi all, I just installed Xubuntu and I would like to add a command to be run upon x server being started (XFCE/X11). Can anyone point me in the right direction?23:13
zoredacheafter you login?23:14
zoredacheor before?  if it is at login time then put it in the autostarted apps23:14
zoredacheapplications/settings/settings manager/autostart23:14
pist0l-fishzoredache: I basically want to mount a hard drive on log in, can I do that in the autostarted apps?23:16
pist0l-fish(I would need root priviledges)23:16
yamatteo_fullstofavro: no it did not. It never worked23:19
zoredachepist0l-fish: if you can mount it with fuse, then yes23:20
favroyamatteo_fullsto: can you paste the xorg.conf you are using please?23:20
favro!paste23:20
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)23:20
zoredacheif it isn't a fuse thing, then you need to look at either updating your /etc/fstab, using autofs, or maybe trying out pam-mount23:20
pist0l-fishzoredache: kay thanks23:20
yamatteo_fullstohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/43190/23:23
favroyamatteo_fullsto: since it is a resolution issue I would remove the @60 etc from the screen section - so the entries look like "1280x1024" 1024x768" etc23:33
favros/ "1280x1024" "1024x768"/23:34
yamatteo_fullstoi try23:34
favroyamatteo_fullsto: in terminal   gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:34
yamatteo_fullstois there a way to restart X without rebooting?23:37
favroyamatteo_fullsto: ctrl+alt+bkspace23:37
yamatteo_fullstoand so? Whith23:44
favroyamatteo_fullsto: any better?23:44
yamatteo_fullstoWith the xfce setting i can't still see any resolution over 800x60023:45
favroyamatteo_fullsto: one min23:46
favroyamatteo_fullsto: you're xorg has two devices and is using the vesa one from what I see - give me a min23:51
favroyamatteo_fullsto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/43199/ - cleaned it up a bit23:59

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