[00:00] but hey, it's midnight, maybe that's enough for one night [00:00] brb [00:01] !samba | Markopotamus [00:01] Markopotamus: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. === ozkugh_ is now known as ozkUGH === Odd-rationale_ is now known as Odd-rationale [01:35] everytime we start a new system, are we stuck with manually configuring everything? [01:36] I even tried copying folder and config files over to another username but everything was owned by my original username. [01:40] sure, I can give permissions to read/write anywhere, but everything is still owned by someone else's name... that would bother me. [01:42] I'm just tired, I guess. I could probably change ownership of a folder recursively with some command line jargon. [01:43] It would be cool to have a utility like OS X has. Heh. [01:45] what's that? [01:45] I was hoping someone would know of such a tool in linux. [01:46] heh, OS X has a thing that will copy all of your settings, even apps, to your new machine [01:46] and i've found it to be pretty reliable :P [01:46] that's where linux is lacking.. whos'e going to write such an app? [01:47] it would be nice :) [01:47] companies like Apple and MS think from the user down, and linux thinks from the function up... [01:47] i have added an alias to my .bashrc - how can i restart the file that the changes take effect ? [01:47] if I were a programmer I'd probably write nothing in GUI. :) [01:47] well, Windows has a file and settings transfer wizard. It's not as awesome as OSX's. [01:48] restart your terminal, kartoffelmensch [01:48] kartoffelmensch, it's been awhile, but I think you just need to open up another terminal.. [01:48] orly :f [01:48] it's such a pain to reconfigure everything. [01:48] thanks .. but what do you mean by "its bee awhile"? =) [01:49] it's been awhile since I messed with aliases. [01:49] I don't do much command line. [01:50] ah =) [01:51] well, for i for myself dont like that commandline stuff as well [01:51] but somehow i downloaded a commandline irc client today [01:51] I like it a lot.. it's just when I get into it I want to stick with it. [01:51] i donna whats taking control over me right now [01:51] I prefer cli irc clients [01:51] better read that manual. :) [01:52] I tried one and I didn't like it so much. [01:52] I'm not a poweruser so it wouldn't really help me out much. [01:52] you know what I miss.. the ability to switch monitors on the fly [01:52] if i want to switch channels i have to type /window 5 [01:52] :D [01:52] what client are you using kartoffelmensch [01:52] irssi [01:52] alt+5 [01:52] or esc+5 [01:52] :p [01:52] ah :> [01:52] I like to sit back too much in front of the computer, sometimes with beer in hand. :)P [01:53] haha yea for sure ron_o =D [01:53] im doing that just right now :P [01:53] I hear that irssi is one of the best. [01:53] definitely [01:53] terminal what shell do u use to run it ? [01:53] the great thing about command line is that in a pinch you can almost always access it. However, now with LiveCDs you can almost always get to a GUI. [01:53] I just use bash. [01:54] shell? [01:54] who uses anything but bash? [01:54] I like tcsh [01:54] except ultra geeks from the past. :) [01:54] my problem is [01:54] I was almost one of those.. ho hum. [01:54] first: do you use nicklist.pl ron_o ? [01:55] whoups [01:55] that should mean terminal [01:55] =) [01:55] nope, I don't [01:55] I use /n [01:55] :P [01:55] yah.. [01:56] I gotta get to my old HD and try oh try to save what's on it now. [01:56] the partition table somehow went wrong. [01:56] i'd really like to have a nicklist on the right side to see at anytimes what nicks are online but the standard xubuntu terminal has a bug while binding the backspace key when using nicklist.pl [01:56] what's wrong with it? [01:56] yah, that's another thing.. the GUI is just plain better for IRC. [01:56] it just doesnt work anymore [01:57] its a bug [01:57] and chatting without backspace is no fun [01:57] you'll get used to the lack of nicklist [01:57] :) [01:57] i feel so alone all the time :> [01:58] seems like noone is there, especially because i am an oldsql quak3 player and the only channels i'm in are dieing more from year to year [01:59] meaning that all the channels i'm in have not more than 8 people all together =) [01:59] haha yeah, I was going to say.. no need for a nicklist then [02:00] the only reason i open irc is because i used to do this since like 10 years now [02:00] .. good ol times :-/ [02:00] you mean you've been using irc since age 5? [02:00] hehe. [02:00] ron_o: you know testdrive ? [02:00] no. [02:00] ron_o: i mean testdisk [02:01] yah, I've been studying the issue now. [02:01] ron_o: i think its the thing u need [02:01] both testdisk and photorec are very good. [02:01] ok [02:02] I think so too but I want to make sure... Photorec will recover just about all my files... then I'll try testdisk.. [02:02] testdisk being a little more risky. [02:03] ok, i dont know any of these in particular but i just read a thread where ppl recommended testdrive =) [02:03] testdisk [02:03] arrgh [02:03] I've been studying the issue quite a bit as of late. [02:03] I don't want to go rushing into anything. [02:04] I have some pictures I want from that disk.. just about everything else I can replace.. [02:04] my dog passed unexpectadly and I had tons of pictures of him on there.. [02:05] and ur disk just died ? [02:05] then my fricking filesystem started going wacky. [02:05] the disk is fine.. I just can't find the files on it. [02:05] i mean, did u kill it accidently or did the hd broke [02:05] brake [02:05] it just went bad on all its own. [02:05] mhh [02:05] the HD is still fine... it's still spinning. [02:06] what fs is it ? [02:06] filesystems are tricky bears.. [02:06] ext3 and ext2.. [02:06] but most everything I care about is on ext3. [02:07] well i really hope you can recover those pics of your dog ;( [02:07] indeed.. [02:07] I think I've nothing to worry about really. I have still quite a few pictures of him as it is. [02:08] you speak good english, where are you from? england/netherlands ? [02:08] I kind of lucked out because I was testing to see what my HP printer could do and got a few pics on photo paper of him. [02:09] hehe, American. :) [02:09] ah :) [02:09] no Americans speak English well? [02:10] well i'm used to connect to european irc servers where usually european ppl stick around =D [02:13] and Americans? hehe.. [02:14] :-p [02:15] Americans don't value speaking well as much as other cultures. It's about doing, not speaking. :) [02:15] That's a pretty large blanket statement [02:16] and our President does what for anything less than a blanket statement? [02:16] One that I'd love to discuss but probably doesn't belong in this channel [02:16] and even that one too. :) [02:16] forgot I wasn't in ##politics anymore. [02:17] however ya'll should join #love ^^ [02:18] ron_o: do you speak any other languages? (how old are you?) [02:18] no, just English. [02:18] dont/diddnt u learn other languages in school ? [02:19] here in germany you HAVE TO learn at least 2 other languages [02:20] well it's required to take another languange to graduate many Highschools (mine did).. [02:20] but I really didn't learn to speak it. [02:20] and which language did u learn ? [02:21] I live in middle eastern USA.. very few people speak anything besides english. [02:21] spanish, of course. :) [02:21] (sorry i dont want to prevent you from doing your work but its interesting to talk to ppl from other cultures) [02:21] ah yes [02:21] ahh, Germany of course. [02:22] ? :P [02:22] it is interesting to talk to others from other cultures. [02:22] strange jokes :-f [02:24] I hear Spanish and Italian are very much alike. [02:24] weird, because I met some Spanish folks with a last name that sounded Italian. [02:24] Latino's I should say. [02:25] yeah they are alike [02:26] terminal: [02:26] i wanted to set irssi to beep when i get highlighted and entered the following [02:26] "/set beep_msg_level MSGS NOTICES DCC DCCMSGS HILIGHT" and "/set bell_beeps ON" [02:27] but it diddnt work out, any ideas ? [02:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/60912 [02:27] Launchpad bug 60912 in xfce4-terminal "No "beep" in irssi" [Undecided,Invalid] [02:28] ..... i love that [02:28] ;x [02:29] first the backspace doesnt work for the nicklist -> rob forgos the nicklist and now even the sound doesnt work [02:29] and xterm wont let me set a font in a readable size at startup [02:30] anyone use Chrome yet? [02:30] on Windows, of course. [02:30] i hope noone ever will :f [02:30] why? [02:31] its from google! [02:31] you're a little late. [02:31] ron_o: do you have a xubuntu question? [02:31] wols, no. [02:31] then stop [02:31] stay cool, the channel is dead anyways [02:32] he's right kartoffelmensch.. there's other places to talk about this.. [02:33] ok yall think so ^^ [02:34] but btw: anyone knows how to disable this pc speaker sound when the loginscreen appears ? [02:34] its so fricking loud [02:38] terminal: can one play a sound if i get highlighted instead of that nasty pc speaker beep ? [02:39] not to my knowledge, kartoffelmensch [02:40] thanks anyways :o [02:41] yep [02:58] hello [02:58] can someone help me [02:59] maybe [02:59] my battery monitor icon [02:59] is not working:S [02:59] its showing 0% [03:00] any tip? [03:28] <[phear]crippler> Does anyone know why XUbuntu would be installing in German..? I am using the latest version of Wubi to do this. Is there any bugs I should know about? [03:30] Newbie question here...I tried using Wubi to install xubuntu and when it gets to the splash screen it freezes. I'm now trying an install with the alternate cd to see if that works but when I rebooted it's just frozen on the boot screen of my laptop [03:30] If anyone could help me out I'd really appreciate it! [03:32] anyone care to diagnose the problem with my screen? see this image: http://imagebin.org/25621 [03:33] <[phear]crippler> Does anyone know why XUbuntu would be installing in German..? I am using the latest version of Wubi to do this. Is there any bugs I should know about? [03:34] * [phear]crippler scratches head thoughtfully. [03:35] <[phear]crippler> nubuntu, your screen looks fine on my end. [03:39] Nobody's around who can help? :/ [03:41] Chetyre: you're laptop prob needs some boot options - what brand/model [03:42] [phear]crippler: you might have got your locale wrong during install? [03:42] !pm | Chetyre [03:42] Chetyre: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude. [03:42] ok, sorry [03:42] np [03:42] <[phear]crippler> favro, I used Wubi, I really didn't do anything. :( [03:42] Here's the specs page for my laptop: http://support.gateway.com/s/manlib/Notebooks/Solo5300/8508144/8508144.htm [03:43] [phear]crippler: I never used wubi but it is supposed to be ok [03:43] It installed Xubuntu, but when I tried to boot into it it would hang after it got to the HH splash screen [03:43] *using wubi, I installed xubuntu [03:44] Chetyre: if it's a wubi install I can't help - sorry - never used it [03:45] Well that's ok! Because I tried with a boot cd [03:45] Except yeah...it doesn't work. I assume it's because it's not trying to read from the CD drive on startup [03:45] Chetyre: google brand/model ubuntu and have a read :) [03:45] <[phear]crippler> favro, I know I have too, more than once... This is a first for me. There is also no option to install in any other languages. I did see something in English saying "Configuring language support" but it changed to install something else and went right back to German. [03:46] [phear]crippler: I've never had that - wouldn't know where to start looking to be honest... [03:46] <[phear]crippler> Wait I am seeing more english now that it's at 98%! [03:47] <[phear]crippler> woot! [03:47] hehe [03:47] :) [03:49] <[phear]crippler> :( Login screen is in German... [03:50] <[phear]crippler> Anyone know how to change the default language? [03:51] Bah, all I can find is gentoo and debian...nothing on xubuntu/ubuntu [03:51] [phear]crippler: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/setting-languages/ [03:52] Chetyre: debian stuff should be close [03:56] <[phear]crippler> So, this is Dutch, not German... Wonderful.. Now to find out how English is spelled in Dutch. Wonder if that's Dutch: flemish, or just plain ole' Dutch... === terminal is now known as rpug === rpug is now known as terminal [04:09] <[phear]crippler> Thanks for the help favro, got it all fixed now. [04:09] [phear]crippler: happy for you :) [04:11] <[phear]crippler> Me too! [04:11] <[phear]crippler> <3 all [04:12] how can i run 2 commands with 1 command? i mean like 1. "xterm" and 2. "xtermcontrol --font=#6". So that can create an alias in .bashrc that i dont have to open xterm and then change to font every time i start it [04:13] kartoffelmensch: you might want to play with the ~/.Xdefaults file instead, if all you want to do is customize xterm [04:13] kartoffelmensch: otherwise, you can do: command1; command2 [04:13] of: command1 && command2 [04:13] or [04:15] kartoffelmensch: here's the best page i know of on ~/.Xdefaults: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Howto_setup_Xdefaults [04:16] but if you google ~/.Xdefaults , you will find many more examples... [04:26] oh Odd-rationale you wrote something sorry [04:26] ill read now =D [04:26] kartoffelmensch: yes. your irc client doesn't highlight you? :P [04:26] not yet, good sir, not yet :P [04:27] thats why i need to configure xterm, because xfterm is buggy with irssi [04:27] kartoffelmensch: how so? [04:27] kartoffelmensch: have you tried weechat? [04:27] !info weechat [04:27] weechat (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1 (hardy), package size 1 kB, installed size 56 kB [04:28] if i load a script to show the nicknames on the right the backspace key doesnt work anymore (known bug at some terminals). second the highlight with a beep doesnt work as well with some terminals [04:29] kartoffelmensch: oh, you want a nicklist? [04:29] no i diddnt know weechat, ive googled for many linux irc clients but i diddnt find any suitable to me ;) [04:29] well yes i do want a nicklist, who doesnt? =) [04:29] kartoffelmensch: then weechat is *definatly* for you. weechat is kind of like irssi with a nick list :P [04:30] do you use it ? [04:30] kartoffelmensch: btw, in your xfterminal preferences. you have to go under advanced --> Compatibility --> Backspace key generates and set it to ascii del [04:30] kartoffelmensch: otherwise bksp won't work in screen [04:31] kartoffelmensch: yes i use weechat [04:31] http://weechat.flashtux.org [04:32] wow odd, you helped me alot :P [04:32] kartoffelmensch: plus weechat can do horizontal AND vertical window splits [04:32] i diddnt use windowsplit yet :D [04:33] weechat sounds really great, the only sad thing is i just set up irssi with hard work ;( now even the backspace key seems to work!! [04:33] but i will try weechat defenitaly tomorrow! [04:33] kartoffelmensch: well, weechat is a whole lot easier to set up than irssi. [04:33] where are you from ? [04:33] many things that are plugins in irssi come automatically in weechat [04:33] like colored nicks [04:34] kartoffelmensch: me? i'm from the internet... :P [04:34] oh really ?? [04:34] me too! [04:34] but im in the internetstate of germany, and its 05:34 am here, i really gotta go to bed :D [04:35] linuxed the whole night! [04:35] lol [04:36] so where are You from my friend ? [04:36] america ? [04:36] yes the US [04:37] so its 23:30 for you? [04:37] 22:36:48 [04:37] ai [04:37] well seems like you're talking to someone from the future right now [04:37] i can help u out with lottery numbers etc. for a small fee [04:39] kartoffelmensch: are you using xubuntu 8.04? [04:39] yep, why ? [04:39] just wondering... [04:39] i'm on Arch Linux [04:39] been using linux long? [04:40] all in all, not really [04:40] ive installed linux for the first time 10 years ago [04:40] debian or something [04:40] then tried gentoo [04:40] and now xubuntu [04:40] because ive never made it to be motivated enough to crawl along in text and config files [04:41] for gods sake it became easier now with ubuntu, because i dont have the nerves and the time to stick to those things all the time [04:42] sometimes its funny, like tonight but maybe only because i had a few beers since i watched oliver kahns (germanies best goalkeeper and the best goalkeeper in the world) last game [04:43] well, the first time i tried linux has about a year ago... [04:44] s/has/was [04:45] arch isnt supposed to be the easiest of all afaik [04:45] pretty terminal/console style while installing apps and the system itself, isnt it ß [04:46] arch helped me learn... [04:46] what window manager do you have? and did u use another linux before ? [04:46] once you know your way around, it is very easy... [04:46] i have xfce [04:46] i started off with ubuntu, a year ago [04:49] is there any remarkable speed difference ? [04:49] question: I burned the xubuntu alternate install to a CD with poweriso. was there anything special I should have done to burn it? it doesn't seem to be working [04:50] kartoffelmensch: yes. definately... [04:50] !md5 | Chetyre [04:50] Chetyre: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [04:51] what CPU/RAM do you have Odd-rationale ? [04:52] and at which tasks do you recognize a speed difference? [04:52] kartoffelmensch: 1.8 ghz and 1 gb ram [04:52] i really need to got to bed but i'm curious =) [04:52] kartoffelmensch: well arch is optimized for i686 [04:53] does that mean 64bit ? [04:53] kartoffelmensch: you can /msg me if you are interested as this is ot... [04:53] kartoffelmensch: no [04:53] or /join #archlinux [05:27] [phear], sorry had to run away for a few, don't you think the rendering looks odd within the browser panels? like the type in the grey bars, etc... @ http://imagebin.org/25621 === ozkugh_ is now known as ozkUGH [08:52] ok guys i just installed xubuntu via terminal on ubutu and it just loaded right into ubuntu when i restarted the pc [08:52] how do i get it to go into xubuntu [08:52] OmgItsAShar1: i told you check the "Settings" at the login manager and make sure you select XFCE [08:53] OmgItsAShar1: did you try that? [08:53] lame @ me [08:53] ok brb hahaha [08:53] OmgItsAShar1: you don't need to restart the PC, just log out and log back in [08:58] hmmm i thihnk i like this [08:59] it seems alot let customizable in terms of preinstalled thhemes [09:03] anyone on a ps3 [09:37] zynergi: yes what's up? [09:37] also there is a channel #ubuntu-ps3 === favfro is now known as favro [09:50] Heyas, I am trying to make a "launcher" that will open a location on the computer.. like in Windows: C:\Work\%username%\docs .. is this variable possible in linux? [09:51] you can add bookmarks to the places menu by editing ~/.gtk-bookmarks [10:07] I'm at a loss why when I create new users my applications menu on xfce is the same... [10:08] hmm, must get that info from /usr/bin I suppose. [10:09] why would your menu change when you create a new user? [10:10] I was wanting to try and run some test applications on another user. But it appears that if I change an app in the new user it would change everywhere. [10:10] yah.. true. [10:10] I thought it would change because you don't have any . files under the new name. [11:43] in xubuntu when a user inserts a usb-drive, it mounts in /media/"username"/usbdisk how can i change this, so it mounts in the users home? [11:44] if i use nautilis it works ok tho [12:10] Hi all, I need to install VLC on an Xubuntu computer that has no internet connection. I have VLC installed on another Xubuntu system, but I'm not sure how to transfer it. [12:12] !aptoncd [12:12] APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers === whaletales is now known as aptanet [14:31] hello [14:31] can i please have opinions about the most popular programming language nowadays? [14:43] Ben_Cs: C is what everybody here would say. But its off topic here ... [14:43] !OT [14:43] #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [14:45] Chaser_: not to mention he already left :) [14:46] TheSheep: OOps [16:05] aha! I finally solved the nm-applet + gdm + autologin problem. [16:07] I had to install seahorse, then set the keyrings to blank. [16:10] That keyring popup was driving me mad. [17:02] hi. i just tried to resize my ntfs partition in xp with partition magic. it required a reboot, and while it rebooted, the grub dont work anymore. says: grub loading.. error 19. or error 15 or so [17:02] now im on xubuntu live cd [17:02] :-o [17:03] i wonder how i can fix my grub [17:07] floating: reinstall grub [17:07] !grub > floating [17:07] floating, please see my private message === hfsdo_ is now known as hfsdo [17:34] I have a lot of users in my system, but all user's /home have gotten their permission reset.. i was moving the home folders to a new server... how can i chown all the /home folders? the home folders is named the same as the username. i have like 500 users.. so doing it 1 by one..is to much [17:35] cd /home; for $i in *; do chown $i $i; done [17:36] and next time just tar the direcotries before moving them [17:38] you might want a -R on that chown [17:38] hi all [17:40] hello [17:43] I have installed xubuntu on my full hard drive. how I can to resize the partition to free up space for another os ? is there some application for this ? [17:43] thx it worked [17:44] theres gparted [17:44] I have installed xubuntu on my full hard drive. how I can to resize the partition to free up space for another os ? is there some application for this ? [17:44] JinKazama: boot into the livecd and use gparted [17:45] it would be wise to make a backup as well [17:46] hm. is there a tool for backup ? [17:47] lots of them... tar, dirvish, amanda, Unless you actually have backup hardware just using cp or rsync to copy to a external hard disk is better then nothing [17:47] I see. thanks :) [17:55] I'm writing a folder to my Linux box. That goes ok, but if I click on another folder the intial transfer stops. Any idea on settings I can change? [17:55] Even if that other folder I click on is on another hard drive. [17:55] 'writing a folder'? [17:56] I copy/pasted a folder from my Windows machine to it. [17:57] ah [17:57] hrm... that doesn't sound good [17:58] Yeah, it's really annoying because I stream video from it. Also, sometimes the video stream stops after 2-3 secs, and I must press stop and try again. Usually it works on the secound time or so. [18:00] how are you accessing your windows box? [18:00] how are you connected? [18:00] wired/wireless? [18:01] Wired through two switches. [18:02] but what smb tool are you using? fusesmb, or something else? [18:02] Sorry, what? [18:03] you said you where copying from your windows box. What SMB client are you using to connect? [18:03] Windows explorer [18:03] I guess [18:04] eh? So you are doing this FROM the windows box? [18:04] Yes [18:05] that was not clear in your initial question at all... I was suspecting bugs in thunar or something... [18:05] I want to install xubuntu on to my flash disk, but the flash disk isn't identified as an option. Any suggestions? [18:05] option to install to* [18:05] Well it shouldn't be able to keep more than one connection, shouldn't it? [18:06] Yeah [18:07] Then it is a bug after all? [18:08] have you setup a firewall on the linux box? [18:08] Not that I know of [18:08] guys i am trying to replace a gif file within my magento config. the new gif is on the desktop, and i have to get it to: var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/________ [18:09] Datz: I don't know much about that. There are many howtos listed on google if you search for 'ubuntu flash install' [18:09] i have the filemanager open, but i don't know how to replace the existing logo.gif with mylogo.gif [18:09] zoredache, thanks, I have been reading them over for awhile now. :) [18:10] I think the problem is getting the USB device recognized, or mounted. [18:11] I don't think I see it with "sudo fdisk -l" [18:12] Does it work in other computers? It is rare but I have had bad usb drives [18:12] zoredache, yes it seems to work fine in windows machines [18:12] There is a firewall on the router though, but the switches are inside the LAN [18:13] Datz: does it have that wacky u3 garbage on it? [18:13] zoreache, I don't know what that is. [18:13] * Datz searches [18:14] u3 is basically a way of having portable apps on a usb drive but it a stupid way [18:14] I don't think it has anything like that installed on it. [18:14] guys i am trying to replace a gif file within my magento config. the new gif is on the desktop, and i have to get it to: var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/________ [18:15] nubuntu: copy it there. sudo cp blah blah [18:15] please can someone tel me how to accomplish this [18:16] Thing is, when I tried to install Xubuntu on it the first time, it may have worked, but I thought it was hanging on the load screen and reformatted it. Now I can't get it as an option to install to now. [18:16] i have tried to copy the gif from the desktop, but then when i click on the target file it doesn't offer me option to paste in [18:17] nubuntu: you probably don't have permissions there. Use the command line. [18:17] nubuntu, you have to move it with commands, search google for it, or look what zoredache said earlier [18:17] nubuntu: it is a good idea, but you could also run 'gksu thunar' which will give you a file browser with root permissions [18:24]