[00:00] <Markopotamus> but hey, it's midnight, maybe that's enough for one night
[00:00] <Markopotamus> brb
[00:01] <favro> !samba | Markopotamus
[01:35] <ron_o> everytime we start a new system, are we stuck with manually configuring everything?
[01:36] <ron_o> I even tried copying folder and config files over to another username but everything was owned by my original username.
[01:40] <ron_o> sure, I can give permissions to read/write anywhere, but everything is still owned by someone else's name... that would bother me.
[01:42] <ron_o> I'm just tired, I guess. I could probably change ownership of a folder recursively with some command line jargon.
[01:43] <terminal> It would be cool to have a utility like OS X has. Heh.
[01:45] <ron_o> what's that?
[01:45] <ron_o> I was hoping someone would know of such a tool in linux.
[01:46] <terminal> heh, OS X has a thing that will copy all of your settings, even apps, to your new machine
[01:46] <terminal> and i've found it to be pretty reliable :P
[01:46] <ron_o> that's where linux is lacking.. whos'e going to write such an app?
[01:47] <terminal> it would be nice :)
[01:47] <ron_o> companies like Apple and MS think from the user down, and linux thinks from the function up...
[01:47] <kartoffelmensch> ﻿i have added an alias to my .bashrc - how can i restart the file that the changes take effect ?
[01:47] <ron_o> if I were a programmer I'd probably write nothing in GUI. :)
[01:47] <terminal> well, Windows has a file and settings transfer wizard. It's not as awesome as OSX's.
[01:48] <terminal> restart your terminal, kartoffelmensch
[01:48] <ron_o> kartoffelmensch, it's been awhile, but I think you just need to open up another terminal..
[01:48] <kartoffelmensch> orly :f
[01:48] <ron_o> it's such a pain to reconfigure everything.
[01:48] <kartoffelmensch> thanks .. but what do you mean by "its bee awhile"? =)
[01:49] <ron_o> it's been awhile since I messed with aliases.
[01:49] <ron_o> I don't do much command line.
[01:50] <kartoffelmensch> ah =)
[01:51] <kartoffelmensch> well, for i for myself dont like that commandline stuff as well
[01:51] <kartoffelmensch> but somehow i downloaded a commandline irc client today
[01:51] <ron_o> I like it a lot.. it's just when I get into it I want to stick with it.
[01:51] <kartoffelmensch> i donna whats taking control over me right now
[01:51] <terminal> I prefer cli irc clients
[01:51] <ron_o> better read that manual. :)
[01:52] <ron_o> I tried one and I didn't like it so much.
[01:52] <ron_o> I'm not a poweruser so it wouldn't really help me out much.
[01:52] <terminal> you know what I miss.. the ability to switch monitors on the fly
[01:52] <kartoffelmensch> if i want to switch channels i have to type /window 5
[01:52] <kartoffelmensch> :D
[01:52] <terminal> what client are you using kartoffelmensch
[01:52] <kartoffelmensch> irssi
[01:52] <terminal> alt+5
[01:52] <terminal> or esc+5
[01:52] <terminal> :p
[01:52] <kartoffelmensch> ah :>
[01:52] <ron_o> I like to sit back too much in front of the computer, sometimes with beer in hand. :)P
[01:53] <kartoffelmensch> haha yea for sure ron_o =D
[01:53] <kartoffelmensch> im doing that just right now :P
[01:53] <ron_o> I hear that irssi is one of the best.
[01:53] <terminal> definitely
[01:53] <kartoffelmensch> terminal what shell do u use to run it ?
[01:53] <ron_o> the great thing about command line is that in a pinch you can almost always access it. However, now with LiveCDs you can almost always get to a GUI.
[01:53] <terminal> I just use bash.
[01:54] <ron_o> shell?
[01:54] <ron_o> who uses anything but bash?
[01:54] <terminal> I like tcsh
[01:54] <ron_o> except ultra geeks from the past. :)
[01:54] <kartoffelmensch> my problem is
[01:54] <ron_o> I was almost one of those.. ho hum.
[01:54] <kartoffelmensch> first: do you  use nicklist.pl ron_o ?
[01:55] <kartoffelmensch> whoups
[01:55] <kartoffelmensch> that should mean terminal
[01:55] <kartoffelmensch> =)
[01:55] <terminal> nope, I don't
[01:55] <terminal> I use /n
[01:55] <terminal> :P
[01:55] <ron_o> yah..
[01:56] <ron_o> I gotta get to my old HD and try oh try to save what's on it now.
[01:56] <ron_o> the partition table somehow went wrong.
[01:56] <kartoffelmensch> i'd really like to have a nicklist on the right side to see at anytimes what nicks are online but the standard xubuntu terminal has a bug while binding the backspace key when using nicklist.pl
[01:56] <terminal> what's wrong with it?
[01:56] <ron_o> yah, that's another thing.. the GUI is just plain better for IRC.
[01:56] <kartoffelmensch> it just doesnt work anymore
[01:57] <kartoffelmensch> its a bug
[01:57] <kartoffelmensch> and chatting without backspace is no fun
[01:57] <terminal> you'll get used to the lack of nicklist
[01:57] <terminal> :)
[01:57] <kartoffelmensch> i feel so alone all the time :>
[01:58] <kartoffelmensch> seems like noone is there, especially because i am an oldsql quak3 player and the only channels i'm in are dieing more from year to year
[01:59] <kartoffelmensch> meaning that all the channels i'm in have not more than 8 people all together =)
[01:59] <terminal> haha yeah, I was going to say.. no need for a nicklist then
[02:00] <kartoffelmensch> the only reason i open irc is because i used to do this since like 10 years now
[02:00] <kartoffelmensch> .. good ol times :-/
[02:00] <ron_o> you mean you've been using irc since age 5?
[02:00] <ron_o> hehe.
[02:00] <kartoffelmensch> ron_o: you know testdrive ?
[02:00] <ron_o> no.
[02:00] <kartoffelmensch> ron_o: i mean testdisk
[02:01] <ron_o> yah, I've been studying the issue now.
[02:01] <kartoffelmensch> ron_o: i think its the thing u need
[02:01] <ron_o> both testdisk and photorec are very good.
[02:01] <kartoffelmensch> ok
[02:02] <ron_o> I think so too but I want to make sure... Photorec will recover just about all my files... then I'll try testdisk..
[02:02] <ron_o> testdisk being a little more risky.
[02:03] <kartoffelmensch> ok, i dont know any of these in particular but i just read a thread where ppl recommended testdrive =)
[02:03] <kartoffelmensch> testdisk
[02:03] <kartoffelmensch> arrgh
[02:03] <ron_o> I've been studying the issue quite a bit as of late.
[02:03] <ron_o> I don't want to go rushing into anything.
[02:04] <ron_o> I have some pictures I want from that disk.. just about everything else I can replace..
[02:04] <ron_o> my dog passed unexpectadly and I had tons of pictures of him on there..
[02:05] <kartoffelmensch> and ur disk just died ?
[02:05] <ron_o> then my fricking filesystem started going wacky.
[02:05] <ron_o> the disk is fine.. I just can't find the files on it.
[02:05] <kartoffelmensch> i mean, did u kill it accidently or did the hd broke
[02:05] <kartoffelmensch> brake
[02:05] <ron_o> it just went bad on all its own.
[02:05] <kartoffelmensch> mhh
[02:05] <ron_o> the HD is still fine... it's still spinning.
[02:06] <kartoffelmensch> what fs is it ?
[02:06] <ron_o> filesystems are tricky bears..
[02:06] <ron_o> ext3 and ext2..
[02:06] <ron_o> but most everything I care about is on ext3.
[02:07] <kartoffelmensch> well i really hope you can recover those pics of your dog ;(
[02:07] <ron_o> indeed..
[02:07] <ron_o> I think I've nothing to worry about really. I have still quite a few pictures of him as it is.
[02:08] <kartoffelmensch> you speak good english, where are you from? england/netherlands ?
[02:08] <ron_o> I kind of lucked out because I was testing to see what my HP printer could do and got a few pics on photo paper of him.
[02:09] <ron_o> hehe, American. :)
[02:09] <kartoffelmensch> ah :)
[02:09] <ron_o> no Americans speak English well?
[02:10] <kartoffelmensch> well i'm used to connect to european irc servers where usually european ppl stick around =D
[02:13] <ron_o> and Americans? hehe..
[02:14] <kartoffelmensch> :-p
[02:15] <ron_o> Americans don't value speaking well as much as other cultures. It's about doing, not speaking. :)
[02:15] <aroo> That's a pretty large blanket statement
[02:16] <ron_o> and our President does what for anything less than a blanket statement?
[02:16] <aroo> One that I'd love to discuss but probably doesn't belong in this channel
[02:16] <ron_o> and even that one too. :)
[02:16] <ron_o> forgot I wasn't in ##politics anymore.
[02:17] <kartoffelmensch> however ya'll should join #love ^^
[02:18] <kartoffelmensch> ron_o:  do you speak any other languages? (how old are you?)
[02:18] <ron_o> no, just English.
[02:18] <kartoffelmensch> dont/diddnt u learn other languages in school ?
[02:19] <kartoffelmensch> here in germany you HAVE TO learn at least 2 other languages
[02:20] <ron_o> well it's required to take another languange to graduate many Highschools (mine did)..
[02:20] <ron_o> but I really didn't learn to speak it.
[02:20] <kartoffelmensch> and which language did u learn ?
[02:21] <ron_o> I live in middle eastern USA.. very few people speak anything besides english.
[02:21] <ron_o> spanish, of course. :)
[02:21] <kartoffelmensch> (sorry i dont want to prevent you from doing your work but its interesting to talk to ppl from other cultures)
[02:21] <kartoffelmensch> ah yes
[02:21] <ron_o> ahh, Germany of course.
[02:22] <kartoffelmensch> ? :P
[02:22] <ron_o> it is interesting to talk to others from other cultures.
[02:22] <kartoffelmensch> strange jokes :-f
[02:24] <ron_o> I hear Spanish and Italian are very much alike.
[02:24] <ron_o> weird, because I met some Spanish folks with a last name that sounded Italian.
[02:24] <ron_o> Latino's I should say.
[02:25] <kartoffelmensch> yeah they are alike
[02:26] <kartoffelmensch> terminal:
[02:26] <kartoffelmensch> i wanted to set irssi to beep when i get highlighted and entered the following
[02:26] <kartoffelmensch> "/set beep_msg_level MSGS NOTICES DCC DCCMSGS HILIGHT" and "/set bell_beeps ON"
[02:27] <kartoffelmensch> but it diddnt work out, any ideas ?
[02:27] <terminal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/60912
[02:28] <kartoffelmensch> ..... i love that
[02:28] <terminal> ;x
[02:29] <kartoffelmensch> first the backspace doesnt work for the nicklist -> rob forgos the nicklist and now even the sound doesnt work
[02:29] <kartoffelmensch> and xterm wont let me set a font in a readable size at startup
[02:30] <ron_o> anyone use Chrome yet?
[02:30] <ron_o> on Windows, of course.
[02:30] <kartoffelmensch> i hope noone ever will :f
[02:30] <ron_o> why?
[02:31] <kartoffelmensch> its from google!
[02:31] <ron_o> you're a little late.
[02:31] <wols> ron_o: do you have a xubuntu question?
[02:31] <ron_o> wols, no.
[02:31] <wols> then stop
[02:31] <kartoffelmensch> stay cool, the channel is dead anyways
[02:32] <ron_o> he's right kartoffelmensch.. there's other places to talk about this..
[02:33] <kartoffelmensch> ok yall think so ^^
[02:34] <kartoffelmensch> but btw: anyone knows how to disable this pc speaker sound when the loginscreen appears ?
[02:34] <kartoffelmensch> its so fricking loud
[02:38] <kartoffelmensch> terminal: can one play a sound if i get highlighted instead of that nasty pc speaker beep ?
[02:39] <terminal> not to my knowledge, kartoffelmensch
[02:40] <kartoffelmensch> thanks anyways :o
[02:41] <terminal> yep
[02:58] <deakillo> hello
[02:58] <deakillo> can someone help me
[02:59] <kartoffelmensch> maybe
[02:59] <deakillo> my battery monitor icon
[02:59] <deakillo> is not working:S
[02:59] <deakillo> its showing 0%
[03:00] <deakillo> any tip?
[03:28] <[phear]crippler> Does anyone know why XUbuntu would be installing in German..? I am using the latest version of Wubi to do this. Is there any bugs I should know about?
[03:30] <Chetyre> Newbie question here...I tried using Wubi to install xubuntu and when it gets to the splash screen it freezes.  I'm now trying an install with the alternate cd to see if that works but when I rebooted it's just frozen on the boot screen of my laptop
[03:30] <Chetyre> If anyone could help me out I'd really appreciate it!
[03:32] <nubuntu> anyone care to diagnose the problem with my screen?  see this image:   http://imagebin.org/25621
[03:33] <[phear]crippler> Does anyone know why XUbuntu would be installing in German..? I am using the latest version of Wubi to do this. Is there any bugs I should know about?
[03:34]  * [phear]crippler scratches head thoughtfully.
[03:35] <[phear]crippler> nubuntu, your screen looks fine on my end.
[03:39] <Chetyre> Nobody's around who can help?  :/
[03:41] <favro> Chetyre: you're laptop prob needs some boot options - what brand/model
[03:42] <favro> [phear]crippler: you might have got your locale wrong during install?
[03:42] <favro> !pm | Chetyre
[03:42] <Chetyre> ok, sorry
[03:42] <favro> np
[03:42] <[phear]crippler> favro, I used Wubi, I really didn't do anything. :(
[03:42] <Chetyre> Here's the specs page for my laptop:  http://support.gateway.com/s/manlib/Notebooks/Solo5300/8508144/8508144.htm
[03:43] <favro> [phear]crippler: I never used wubi but it is supposed to be ok
[03:43] <Chetyre> It installed Xubuntu, but when I tried to boot into it it would hang after it got to the HH splash screen
[03:43] <Chetyre> *using wubi, I installed xubuntu
[03:44] <favro> Chetyre: if it's a wubi install I can't help - sorry - never used it
[03:45] <Chetyre> Well that's ok!  Because I tried with a boot cd
[03:45] <Chetyre> Except yeah...it doesn't work.  I assume it's because it's not trying to read from the CD drive on startup
[03:45] <favro> Chetyre: google brand/model ubuntu and have a read :)
[03:45] <[phear]crippler> favro, I know I have too, more than once... This is a first for me. There is also no option to install in any other languages. I did see something in English saying "Configuring language support" but it changed to install something else and went right back to German.
[03:46] <favro> [phear]crippler: I've never had that - wouldn't know where to start looking to be honest...
[03:46] <[phear]crippler> Wait I am seeing more english now that it's at 98%!
[03:47] <[phear]crippler> woot!
[03:47] <Chetyre> hehe
[03:47] <favro> :)
[03:49] <[phear]crippler> :( Login screen is in German...
[03:50] <[phear]crippler> Anyone know how to change the default language?
[03:51] <Chetyre> Bah, all I can find is gentoo and debian...nothing on xubuntu/ubuntu
[03:51] <favro> [phear]crippler: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/setting-languages/
[03:52] <favro> Chetyre: debian stuff should be close
[03:56] <[phear]crippler> So, this is Dutch, not German... Wonderful.. Now to find out how English is spelled in Dutch. Wonder if that's Dutch: flemish, or just plain ole' Dutch...
[04:09] <[phear]crippler> Thanks for the help favro, got it all fixed now.
[04:09] <favro> [phear]crippler: happy for you :)
[04:11] <[phear]crippler> Me too!
[04:11] <[phear]crippler> <3 all
[04:12] <kartoffelmensch> ﻿how can i run 2 commands with 1 command? i mean like 1. "xterm" and 2. "xtermcontrol --font=#6". So that can create an alias in .bashrc that i dont have to open xterm and then change to font every time i start it
[04:13] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: you might want to play with the ~/.Xdefaults file instead, if all you want to do is customize xterm
[04:13] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: otherwise, you can do: command1; command2
[04:13] <Odd-rationale> of: command1 && command2
[04:13] <Odd-rationale> or
[04:15] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: here's the best page i know of on ~/.Xdefaults: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Howto_setup_Xdefaults
[04:16] <Odd-rationale> but if you google ~/.Xdefaults , you will find many more examples...
[04:26] <kartoffelmensch> oh Odd-rationale you wrote something sorry
[04:26] <kartoffelmensch> ill read now =D
[04:26] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: yes. your irc client doesn't highlight you? :P
[04:26] <kartoffelmensch> not yet, good sir, not yet :P
[04:27] <kartoffelmensch> thats why i need to configure xterm, because xfterm is buggy with irssi
[04:27] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: how so?
[04:27] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: have you tried weechat?
[04:27] <Odd-rationale> !info weechat
[04:28] <kartoffelmensch> if i load a script to show the nicknames on the right the backspace key doesnt work anymore (known bug at some terminals). second the highlight with a beep doesnt work as well with some terminals
[04:29] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: oh, you want a nicklist?
[04:29] <kartoffelmensch> no i diddnt know weechat, ive googled for many linux irc clients but i diddnt find any suitable to me ;)
[04:29] <kartoffelmensch> well yes i do want a nicklist, who doesnt? =)
[04:29] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: then weechat is *definatly* for you. weechat is kind of like irssi with a nick list :P
[04:30] <kartoffelmensch> do you use it ?
[04:30] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: btw, in your xfterminal preferences. you have to go under advanced --> Compatibility --> Backspace key generates and set it to ascii del
[04:30] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: otherwise bksp won't work in screen
[04:31] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: yes i use weechat
[04:31] <Odd-rationale> http://weechat.flashtux.org
[04:32] <kartoffelmensch> wow odd, you helped me alot :P
[04:32] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: plus weechat can do horizontal AND vertical window splits
[04:32] <kartoffelmensch> i diddnt use windowsplit yet :D
[04:33] <kartoffelmensch> weechat sounds really great, the only sad thing is i just set up irssi with hard work ;( now even the backspace key seems to work!!
[04:33] <kartoffelmensch> but i will try weechat defenitaly tomorrow!
[04:33] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: well, weechat is a whole lot easier to set up than irssi.
[04:33] <kartoffelmensch> where are you from ?
[04:33] <Odd-rationale> many things that are plugins in irssi come automatically in weechat
[04:33] <Odd-rationale> like colored nicks
[04:34] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: me? i'm from the internet... :P
[04:34] <kartoffelmensch> oh really ??
[04:34] <kartoffelmensch> me too!
[04:34] <kartoffelmensch> but im in the internetstate of germany, and its 05:34 am here, i really gotta go to bed :D
[04:35] <kartoffelmensch> linuxed the whole night!
[04:35] <Odd-rationale> lol
[04:36] <kartoffelmensch> so where are You from my friend ?
[04:36] <kartoffelmensch> america ?
[04:36] <Odd-rationale> yes the US
[04:37] <kartoffelmensch> so its 23:30 for you?
[04:37] <Odd-rationale> 22:36:48
[04:37] <kartoffelmensch> ai
[04:37] <kartoffelmensch> well seems like you're talking to someone from the future right now
[04:37] <kartoffelmensch> i can help u out with lottery numbers etc. for a small fee
[04:39] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: are you using xubuntu 8.04?
[04:39] <kartoffelmensch> yep, why ?
[04:39] <Odd-rationale> just wondering...
[04:39] <Odd-rationale> i'm on Arch Linux
[04:39] <Odd-rationale> been using linux long?
[04:40] <kartoffelmensch> all in all, not really
[04:40] <kartoffelmensch> ive installed linux for the first time 10 years ago
[04:40] <kartoffelmensch> debian or something
[04:40] <kartoffelmensch> then tried gentoo
[04:40] <kartoffelmensch> and now xubuntu
[04:40] <kartoffelmensch> because ive never made it to be motivated enough to crawl along in text and config files
[04:41] <kartoffelmensch> for gods sake it became easier now with ubuntu, because i dont have the nerves and the time to stick to those things all the time
[04:42] <kartoffelmensch> sometimes its funny, like tonight but maybe only because i had a few beers since i watched oliver kahns (germanies best goalkeeper and the best goalkeeper in the world) last game
[04:43] <Odd-rationale> well, the first time i tried linux has about a year ago...
[04:44] <Odd-rationale> s/has/was
[04:45] <kartoffelmensch> arch isnt supposed to be the easiest of all afaik
[04:45] <kartoffelmensch> pretty terminal/console style while installing apps and the system itself, isnt it ß
[04:46] <Odd-rationale> arch helped me learn...
[04:46] <kartoffelmensch> what window manager do you have? and did u use another linux before ?
[04:46] <Odd-rationale> once you know your way around, it is very easy...
[04:46] <Odd-rationale> i have xfce
[04:46] <Odd-rationale> i started off with ubuntu, a year ago
[04:49] <kartoffelmensch> is there any remarkable speed difference ?
[04:49] <Chetyre> question:  I burned the xubuntu alternate install to a CD with poweriso.  was there anything special I should have done to burn it? it doesn't seem to be working
[04:50] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: yes. definately...
[04:50] <favro> !md5 | Chetyre
[04:51] <kartoffelmensch> what CPU/RAM do you have Odd-rationale ?
[04:52] <kartoffelmensch> and at which tasks do you recognize a speed difference?
[04:52] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: 1.8 ghz and 1 gb ram
[04:52] <kartoffelmensch> i really need to got to bed but i'm curious =)
[04:52] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: well arch is optimized for i686
[04:53] <kartoffelmensch> does that mean 64bit ?
[04:53] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: you can /msg me if you are interested as this is ot...
[04:53] <Odd-rationale> kartoffelmensch: no
[04:53] <Odd-rationale> or /join #archlinux
[05:27] <nubuntu> [phear], sorry had to run away for a few, don't you think the rendering looks odd within the browser panels?  like the type in the grey bars, etc... @  http://imagebin.org/25621
[08:52] <OmgItsAShar1> ok  guys i just installed xubuntu via terminal on ubutu and it just loaded right into ubuntu when i restarted the pc
[08:52] <OmgItsAShar1> how do i get it to go into xubuntu
[08:52] <ushimitsudoki1> OmgItsAShar1: i told you check the "Settings" at the login manager and make sure you select XFCE
[08:53] <ushimitsudoki1> OmgItsAShar1: did you try that?
[08:53] <OmgItsAShar1> lame @ me
[08:53] <OmgItsAShar1> ok brb hahaha
[08:53] <ushimitsudoki1> OmgItsAShar1: you don't need to restart the PC, just log out and log back in
[08:58] <OmgItsAShark> hmmm i  thihnk i like this
[08:59] <OmgItsAShark> it seems alot let customizable in terms of preinstalled thhemes
[09:03] <zynergi> anyone on a ps3
[09:37] <Rakeer> zynergi: yes what's up?
[09:37] <Rakeer> also there is a channel #ubuntu-ps3
[09:50] <generalsnus> Heyas, I am trying to make a "launcher" that will open a location on the computer.. like in Windows: C:\Work\%username%\docs .. is this variable possible in linux?
[09:51] <ushimitsudoki1> you can add bookmarks to the places menu by editing ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[10:07] <ron_o> I'm at a loss why when I create new users my applications menu on xfce is the same...
[10:08] <ron_o> hmm, must get that info from /usr/bin I suppose.
[10:09] <favro> why would your menu change when you create a new user?
[10:10] <ron_o> I was wanting to try and run some test applications on another user. But it appears that if I change an app in the new user it would change everywhere.
[10:10] <ron_o> yah.. true.
[10:10] <ron_o> I thought it would change because you don't have any .<data> files under the new name.
[11:43] <generalsnus> in xubuntu when a user inserts a usb-drive, it mounts in /media/"username"/usbdisk      how can i change this, so it mounts in the users home?
[11:44] <generalsnus> if i use nautilis it works ok tho
[12:10] <wigren> Hi all, I need to install VLC on an Xubuntu computer that has no internet connection. I have VLC installed on another Xubuntu system, but I'm not sure how to transfer it.
[12:12] <favro> !aptoncd
[14:31] <Ben_Cs> hello
[14:31] <Ben_Cs> can i please have opinions about the most popular programming language nowadays?
[14:43] <Chaser_> Ben_Cs: C is what everybody here would say. But its off topic here ...
[14:43] <Chaser_> !OT
[14:45] <TheSheep> Chaser_: not to mention he already left :)
[14:46] <Chaser_> TheSheep: OOps
[16:05] <bytor4232> aha!  I finally solved the nm-applet + gdm + autologin problem.
[16:07] <bytor4232> I had to install seahorse, then set the keyrings to blank.
[16:10] <bytor4232> That keyring popup was driving me mad.
[17:02] <floating> hi. i just tried to resize my ntfs partition in xp with partition magic. it required a reboot, and while it rebooted, the grub dont work anymore. says: grub loading.. error 19. or error 15 or so
[17:02] <floating> now im on xubuntu live cd
[17:02] <floating> :-o
[17:03] <floating> i wonder how i can fix my grub
[17:07] <wols_> floating: reinstall grub
[17:07] <wols_> !grub > floating
[17:34] <generalsnus> I have a lot of users in my system, but all user's /home have gotten their permission reset.. i was moving the home folders to a new server...  how can i chown all the /home folders?  the home folders is named the same as the username.  i have like 500 users.. so doing it 1 by one..is to much
[17:35] <TheSheep> cd /home; for $i in *; do chown $i $i; done
[17:36] <TheSheep> and next time just tar the direcotries before moving them
[17:38] <zoredache> you might want a -R on that chown
[17:38] <JinKazama> hi all
[17:40] <zoredache> hello
[17:43] <JinKazama> I have installed xubuntu on my full hard drive. how I can to resize the partition to free up space for another os ? is there some application for this ?
[17:43] <floating> thx it worked
[17:44] <floating> theres gparted
[17:44] <JinKazama> I have installed xubuntu on my full hard drive. how I can to resize the partition to free up space for another os ? is there some application for this ?
[17:44] <Odd-rationale> JinKazama: boot into the livecd and use gparted
[17:45] <zoredache> it would be wise to make a backup as well
[17:46] <JinKazama> hm. is there a tool for backup ?
[17:47] <zoredache> lots of them... tar, dirvish, amanda,  Unless you actually have backup hardware just using cp or rsync to copy to a external hard disk is better then nothing
[17:47] <JinKazama> I see. thanks :)
[17:55] <Woo> I'm writing a folder to my Linux box. That goes ok, but if I click on another folder the intial transfer stops. Any idea on settings I can change?
[17:55] <Woo> Even if that other folder I click on is on another hard drive.
[17:55] <zoredache> 'writing a folder'?
[17:56] <Woo> I copy/pasted a folder from my Windows machine to it.
[17:57] <zoredache> ah
[17:57] <zoredache> hrm...  that doesn't sound good
[17:58] <Woo> Yeah, it's really annoying because I stream video from it. Also, sometimes the video stream stops after 2-3 secs, and I must press stop and try again. Usually it works on the secound time or so.
[18:00] <zoredache> how are you accessing your windows box?
[18:00] <zoredache> how are you connected?
[18:00] <zoredache> wired/wireless?
[18:01] <Woo> Wired through two switches.
[18:02] <zoredache> but what smb tool are you using?  fusesmb, or something else?
[18:02] <Woo> Sorry, what?
[18:03] <zoredache> you said you where copying from your windows box.  What SMB client are you using to connect?
[18:03] <Woo> Windows explorer
[18:03] <Woo> I guess
[18:04] <zoredache> eh?  So you are doing this FROM the windows box?
[18:04] <Woo> Yes
[18:05] <zoredache> that was not clear in your initial question at all... I was suspecting bugs in thunar or something...
[18:05] <Datz> I want to install xubuntu on to my flash disk, but the flash disk isn't identified  as an option.  Any suggestions?
[18:05] <Datz> option to install to*
[18:05] <Woo> Well it shouldn't be able to keep more than one connection, shouldn't it?
[18:06] <zoredache> Yeah
[18:07] <Woo> Then it is a bug after all?
[18:08] <zoredache> have you setup a firewall on the linux box?
[18:08] <Woo> Not that I know of
[18:08] <nubuntu> guys i am trying to replace a gif file within my magento config.  the new gif is on the desktop, and i have to get it to: var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/________
[18:09] <zoredache> Datz: I don't know much about that.  There are many howtos listed on google if you search for 'ubuntu flash install'
[18:09] <nubuntu> i have the filemanager open, but i don't know how to replace the existing  logo.gif   with  mylogo.gif
[18:09] <Datz> zoredache, thanks, I have been reading them over for awhile now.  :)
[18:10] <Datz> I think the problem is getting the USB device recognized, or mounted.
[18:11] <Datz> I don't think I see it with "sudo fdisk -l"
[18:12] <zoredache> Does it work in other computers?  It is rare but I have had bad usb drives
[18:12] <Datz> zoredache, yes it seems to work fine in windows machines
[18:12] <Woo> There is a firewall on the router though, but the switches are inside the LAN
[18:13] <zoredache> Datz: does it have that wacky u3 garbage on it?
[18:13] <Datz> zoreache, I don't know what that is.
[18:13]  * Datz searches
[18:14] <zoredache> u3 is basically a way of having portable apps on a usb drive but it a stupid way
[18:14] <Datz> I don't think it has anything like that installed on it.
[18:14] <nubuntu> guys i am trying to replace a gif file within my magento config.  the new gif is on the desktop, and i have to get it to: var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/________
[18:15] <zoredache> nubuntu: copy it there.  sudo cp blah blah
[18:15] <nubuntu> please can someone tel me how to accomplish this
[18:16] <Datz> Thing is, when I tried to install Xubuntu on it the first time, it may have worked, but I thought it was hanging on the load screen and reformatted it.  Now I can't get it as an option to install to now.
[18:16] <nubuntu> i have tried to copy the gif from the desktop, but then when i click on the target file it doesn't offer me option to paste in
[18:17] <zoredache> nubuntu: you probably don't have permissions there.  Use the command line.
[18:17] <Datz> nubuntu, you have to move it with commands, search google for it, or look what zoredache said earlier
[18:17] <zoredache> nubuntu: it is a good idea, but you could also run 'gksu thunar' which will give you a file browser with root permissions
[18:24] <zoredache> Datz: Since you said it was working under windows. I suspect I would reformat it there just so it is clean.  I don't know that this will help much though
[18:25] <Datz> thanks again zoredache, but I have reformatted it and checked it for errors on my windows system ;)
[18:26] <Datz> gone from fat32 to NTFS to fat32 to NTFS
[18:26] <Datz> As you can see I really want to get it to work
[18:26] <zoredache> Is any other usb device working on the linux box?
[18:27] <Datz> zoredache not now
[18:27] <nubuntu> um, still don't understand .. isn't thunar the 'file manager' i have open?
[18:28] <Datz> now I am just trying to mount random things in /dev like sdc and usb...  :)
[18:28] <zoredache> that is not likely to be very useful
[18:28] <nubuntu> ya, it is thunar
[18:28] <Datz> lol, ok
[18:28] <Datz> what to do next...
[18:29] <zoredache> disconnect and reconnect the drive, then look at the output of dmesg perhaps
[18:29] <zoredache> try seeing if lsusb shows the drive
[18:29] <Datz> output is /var/log/message or something?
[18:29] <nubuntu> zoredache: ok, i have the terminal open
[18:30] <nubuntu> but i don't understand yet the complete steps you're telling me
[18:32] <Datz> zoredache, I see the disk under /dev/disk/by-id  as usb-Generic_STOREAGE_DEVICE_...
[18:32] <Datz> nubuntu see this : http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fileman.html
[18:33] <nubuntu> datz, ok, i go look, thx
[18:33] <Datz> np
[18:39] <nubuntu> Datz: ok, so if file on my desktop is called mylogo.gif, and i want that into var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif , is the command : cp mylogo.gif var/www.magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif  ?
[18:40] <Datz> nubuntu, type "pwd"
[18:40] <Datz> in your console
[18:40] <Datz> what is the output?
[18:41] <Datz> cd to the Desktop then run that command you pasted
[18:41] <nubuntu> the output is /home/nubuntu
[18:41] <Datz> cd /home/nubuntu/Desktop
[18:41] <Datz> then run that command
[18:42] <nubuntu> nothing has to separate 'mylogo.gif' and 'var/www/magento...'?
[18:42] <Datz> yes one space
[18:42] <nubuntu> ok, lemme try
[18:47] <nubuntu> nubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ cp penniescount.php.gif var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif cp: cannot create regular file `var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif': No such file or directory nubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[18:48] <nubuntu> datz, what did i do wrong?
[18:49] <Datz> is your path right, do you have penniecount.php on your Desktop?
[18:49] <Datz> oops penniescount.php.gif
[18:50] <Datz> zoredache, when I look at properties->General of "/dev/disk/by-id/usb-Generic_STOREAGE_DEVICE_..." I see Link Target "../../sdc"  but when I try to mount sdc I get "mount: special device /dev/scd des not exist"
[18:52] <zoredache> do an ls /dev/sdc and see if it does exist
[18:53] <Datz> Its there
[18:54] <Datz> or it outputs "/dev/sdc"
[18:54] <Datz> so its not mounted there
[18:55] <zoredache> run sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sdc
[18:55] <nubuntu> yes, it is on the desktop
[18:56] <Datz> zoredache, /dev/sdc : No medium found
[18:56] <Datz> sfdisk: cannot open /dev/sdc for reading
[18:57] <nubuntu> just tried again to make sure i spelled everything properly, and i did
[18:59] <nubuntu> datz, is there another way, a second option?
[19:00] <Datz> unbuntu, try sudo cp....
[19:01] <nubuntu> when it says no such file or directory does it mean the target file? or the replacement file?
[19:01] <nubuntu> k, lemme try
[19:03] <nubuntu> nope, still says no such file.  is it possible i am not properly identifying the target?
[19:03] <nubuntu> i mean, should there be something ahead of 'var'?
[19:05] <Datz> no
[19:05] <Datz> I don't know what the "cp: cannot create regular file" error is
[19:06] <Datz> nubuntu, try not renaming it to logo.gif
[19:07] <Datz> but keep it as penniescount.php.gif
[19:07] <nubuntu> so end the command at /images   ?
[19:07] <Datz> yea
[19:07] <nubuntu> k, lemme try
[19:09] <nubuntu> no such file or directory .... arrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh
[19:09] <Markopotamus> favro: Thanks for the help last night, t'were grand. S' working nicely now.
[19:14] <nubuntu> datz, can you look at my file manager and see if i am expressing properly?  http://imagebin.org/25654
[19:17] <Datz> nubuntu, looks right
[19:18] <nubuntu> is there another way for me to get this file into that tree?
[19:19] <Datz> maybe try this "sudo cp /home/nubuntu/Desktop/penniescount.php.gif var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images
[19:19] <Datz> without that lonely quote
[19:19]  * nubuntu can't understand why such a simple thing could be so, well, not simple
[19:19] <Datz> haha, once you get it down it is not bad
[19:20] <Datz> it would be easier to start moving somthing a short distance
[19:20] <Datz> and without extensions like php.gif  ...I don't know if that has anything to do with it
[19:23] <Datz> zoredache, I think I found the problem, when I run dmesg I get "usb 8-1: device not accespting address 6, error -110"
[19:32] <Datz> I am so out of ideas
[19:33] <Datz> damn new 16GB flash Voyager
[19:33] <Datz> should have just bought a 2.5" HDD and a case with usb and sata
[19:34] <Datz> esata*
[21:48] <Markopotamu1> I want my Xubuntu laptop to exchange files over the network with my WinXP PC. I've tried but so far am failing to make it work. Any help would be really appreciated.
[21:49] <favro> !samba
[21:50] <Markopotamu1> favro \o/ Mey hero
[21:50] <favro> hehe
[21:50]  * Markopotamu1 wanders off to give it a go
[21:52] <Markopotamu1> I must say I'm really starting to like Xubuntu
[21:52] <Markopotamu1> although I wouldn't have had a clue how to sort myself out without your help last night, favro
[21:53] <favro> Markopotamu1: it takes a little getting used to but I enjoy it :)
[21:54] <Markopotamu1> so - sudo apt-get install smbfs in a terminal?
[21:55] <zoredache> !fusesmb
[21:55] <zoredache> !search fusesmb
[21:56] <zoredache> Markopotamu1: try fusesmb perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb
[21:56]  * Markopotamu1 takes a look
[21:59]  * Markopotamu1 really needs to learn some terminal syntax and acronyms
[22:00] <zoredache> have you seen http://www.linuxcommand.org/ yet?
[22:00] <favro> !tab | Markopotamu1
[22:02] <omfgitsashark> whats a good iso mounter for windows xp so i can install xubuntu
[22:02] <zoredache> why would you need to mount an iso in xp?
[22:02] <omfgitsashark> so i can have a cd to install xubuntu
[22:02] <favro> vmware?
[22:02] <zoredache> you are supposed to write the iso directly to the disk.  you don't need to mount it
[22:03] <favro> wubi?
[22:03] <omfgitsashark> what do you mean ... ecause i have a lappy with a blank hd
[22:03] <omfgitsashark> so i am burning xubuntu onto a disk mounted so i can drop it into the new lappy then install it
[22:04] <omfgitsashark> so....
[22:04] <zoredache> so use something like isorecorder http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm to write the iso to a blank disk
[22:05] <Markopotamu1> omfgitsashark: DAEMON Tools
[22:05] <imneat> xfce theme overrides the firefox 3 default - any way to prevent this from happening and get the default firefox 3 look back?
[22:05] <omfgitsashark> zore have you used that isoecorder... is it easy to use
[22:06] <favro> !tab | omfgitsashark
[22:07] <zoredache> yes, I have used it... it is easy to use
[22:07] <zoredache> you right click on the iso and choose 'create cd'
[22:08] <omfgitsashark> hahha that is easy
[22:08] <omfgitsashark> i got this bitchen ibm x40 with nothing on the hd for 80 bucks
[22:15] <jimmy_birer> hi
[22:15] <jimmy_birer> can i run xubuntu in 128 Mb of ram?
[22:15] <jimmy_birer> help!
[22:16] <jimmy_birer> plz
[22:16] <zoredache> jimmy_birer: you can right, but you can't install with the livecd on 128
[22:16] <zoredache> you can *run*
[22:16] <zoredache> !lowmem | jimmy_birer
[22:17] <pingu_> Hallo, somebody know how to make bigger entries in XFCE menu?
[22:18] <jimmy_birer> enetr -rm -rf in terinal
[22:18] <jimmy_birer> enter -rm -rf
[22:18] <jimmy_birer> in termina;
[22:18] <jimmy_birer> :D::D
[22:19] <zoredache> jimmy_birer: things like that will get you kicked and banned
[22:19] <RyanPrior> jimmy_birer: That doesn't sound like a good idea.
[22:19] <RyanPrior> !ops
[22:19] <jimmy_birer> fine
[22:19] <jimmy_birer> tnx for warning
[22:20] <jimmy_birer> ...
[22:20] <jimmy_birer> anyone knows a os like xubuntu?
[22:20] <jimmy_birer> for min system requirements
[22:21] <zoredache> jimmy_birer: did you look at those links?
[22:21] <jimmy_birer> yes,i did
[22:21] <jimmy_birer> and it said 193
[22:21] <jimmy_birer> 192
[22:21] <nalioth> jimmy_birer: please be civil
[22:21] <jimmy_birer> and i have 128
[22:22] <Chaser> !civil
[22:22] <Chaser> oops
[22:22] <zoredache> that was on the system requirements link.  The low memory link also suggests flux, and how to slim down things
[22:22] <nalioth> Chaser: /msg ubottu CoC  or /msg ubottu guidelines
[22:23] <Chaser> thanks nalioth
[22:25] <jimmy_birer> alternate  install cd requires just 64 mb of ram,after installing i need 192 mb of ram?
[22:25] <jimmy_birer> or it runs with 128?
[22:25] <zoredache> I beleive it only needs 32
[22:25] <zoredache> after install it kinda depends on what you acutally plan on running
[22:26] <jimmy_birer> i will not run visual effects
[22:26] <Markopotamu1> jimmy_birer: I used the alternate instal CD yesterday. Just go with it, you'll be fine.
[22:26] <zoredache> yeah, but will you try and run memory hungry applications like firefox
[22:26] <jimmy_birer> no
[22:26] <jimmy_birer> i will make a tour in start menu
[22:26] <jimmy_birer> i will watch it copule of hours
[22:28] <jimmy_birer> if i install 10 Gb,i will  run it faster or slower?
[22:28] <Markopotamu1> Won't make any difference, will it?
[22:28] <jimmy_birer> tnx markopotamu1
[22:28] <jimmy_birer> you made me courageous
[22:29] <jimmy_birer> you rock
[22:29] <Markopotamu1> As long as it has enough, any extra space will just be there if you needed.
[22:29] <jimmy_birer> tnx much much much:-*
[22:29] <Markopotamu1> haha thanks, jimmy_birer. Go on! Have fun :p
[22:30] <jimmy_birer> question of yer:will my pc die if i run ubuntu+compiz+firefox with 5 tabs in 64 mb pc?
[22:30] <jimmy_birer> answer:surely:d
[22:31] <zoredache> I doubt you have a video card that could do xgl on that hardware.  If you have swap setup your drive will be constantly swapping.  If you don't have swap setup then stuff will keep being killed by the kernel
[22:32] <jimmy_birer> no
[22:32] <jimmy_birer> my computer will burn!
[22:32] <jimmy_birer> or explode
[22:32] <jimmy_birer> :d
[22:32] <jimmy_birer> will be invidious
[22:32] <jimmy_birer> :d
[22:32] <jimmy_birer> just goodbye
[22:33] <jimmy_birer> i go to tryin XUbunTu
[22:33]  * Markopotamu1 whistles.
[22:33] <Markopotamu1> Wow, that guy was easily pleased.
[22:35] <zoredache> maybe
[22:35] <RyanPrior> More likely a troll. He told somebody to remove -rf
[22:37] <Markopotamu1> A kid who just inherited his brothers old computer after a big sugary pudding?
[22:37] <Markopotamu1> sugary pudding for kids and computers don't mix well :|
[22:41] <Markopotamu1> Hrm. Foiled again. I can't seem to edit the /etc/fstab file, as instructed in "mountin unproducted (guest) network folders section of the samba tutorial on the wiki
[22:42] <Markopotamu1> Ouch, sorry about the typos. I'm not used to this pokey little laptop keyboard.
[22:44] <zoredache> did you use sudo/gksu to try and open the file?
[22:51] <Markopotamu1> zoredache: ah, no, I just went through the file system..
[22:52] <Markopotamu1> zoredache: As you may have guessed, I'm a newbie. Just installed Xubuntu 8.04 yeaterday. No prevoius Linux experience.
[23:05] <yamatteo_fullsto> hi, i have some resolution problem with xubuntu. Is there something special I should know when configuring fglrx?
[23:08] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: how did you install fglrx?
[23:09] <yamatteo_fullsto> i tried following the wiki guide
[23:09] <favro> I thought sudo crontab -e would let me edit /etc/crontab but it doesn't...
[23:10] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: did you add fglrx to /etc/modules?
[23:11] <yamatteo_fullsto> erg... i don't think i did. Not intentionally
[23:11] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: if it is the wiki I'm thinking of that is a necessary step
[23:12] <yamatteo_fullsto> i stopped when fglrxinfo said:
[23:13] <yamatteo_fullsto> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project
[23:13] <yamatteo_fullsto> etcetera
[23:13] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: then on reboot the module won't be loaded - has it worked ok at all yet?
[23:13] <pist0l-fish> hi all, I just installed Xubuntu and I would like to add a command to be run upon x server being started (XFCE/X11). Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[23:14] <zoredache> after you login?
[23:14] <zoredache> or before?  if it is at login time then put it in the autostarted apps
[23:14] <zoredache> applications/settings/settings manager/autostart
[23:16] <pist0l-fish> zoredache: I basically want to mount a hard drive on log in, can I do that in the autostarted apps?
[23:16] <pist0l-fish> (I would need root priviledges)
[23:19] <yamatteo_fullsto> favro: no it did not. It never worked
[23:20] <zoredache> pist0l-fish: if you can mount it with fuse, then yes
[23:20] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: can you paste the xorg.conf you are using please?
[23:20] <favro> !paste
[23:20] <zoredache> if it isn't a fuse thing, then you need to look at either updating your /etc/fstab, using autofs, or maybe trying out pam-mount
[23:20] <pist0l-fish> zoredache: kay thanks
[23:23] <yamatteo_fullsto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/43190/
[23:33] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: since it is a resolution issue I would remove the @60 etc from the screen section - so the entries look like "1280x1024" 1024x768" etc
[23:34] <favro> s/ "1280x1024" "1024x768"/
[23:34] <yamatteo_fullsto> i try
[23:34] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: in terminal   gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:37] <yamatteo_fullsto> is there a way to restart X without rebooting?
[23:37] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: ctrl+alt+bkspace
[23:44] <yamatteo_fullsto> and so? Whith
[23:44] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: any better?
[23:45] <yamatteo_fullsto> With the xfce setting i can't still see any resolution over 800x600
[23:46] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: one min
[23:51] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: you're xorg has two devices and is using the vesa one from what I see - give me a min
[23:59] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/43199/ - cleaned it up a bit