| jjesse_ | ok i have a small frustration with using leonov-kde, i keep on having to sudo chmod /usr/binpykdeuic4 to build leonov. this seems to happen after i update my intrepid build? | 02:34 |
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| \sh | apachelogger: now again ;) | 07:22 |
| apachelogger | \sh: I am wondering what I wanted to ask you now :P | 07:30 |
| \sh | apachelogger: you asked if I'm still around...;) | 07:30 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but I probably wanted to ask you something much more important, much more secret... | 07:32 |
| apachelogger | hm | 07:32 |
| apachelogger | I shouldn't get up that early | 07:32 |
| apachelogger | \sh: The Kubuntu Ninjas needs a server with improved release handling and QA. Do you know where we can get one? ;-) | 07:34 |
| \sh | apachelogger: well, if you can give me a clue what "improved release handling" means (I think QA means something like the ubuntuwire scripts?) | 07:35 |
| \sh | apachelogger: we need to fix kde4bindings...it looks like that something in python-kde4 and python-kde4-dev is clashing (regarding the pykdeuic4.py and kde4.py) let's talk about this a bit later... | 08:19 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why that python stuff is always breaking :S | 08:20 | |
| gnomefreak | anyone know kernels and kernel modules in here? | 08:27 |
| apachelogger | gnomefreak: #ubuntu-kernel | 08:38 |
| gnomefreak | tried already | 08:38 |
| apachelogger | well, I didn't see anyone talk about kernel stuff in here | 08:39 |
| apachelogger | well, besides complaining that it is broken ;-) | 08:39 |
| gnomefreak | just thought i would try | 08:40 |
| seaLne | should konq not be working properly? | 09:02 |
| \sh | apachelogger: no it's not breaking, we made a mistake in the first place... | 09:04 |
| \sh | apachelogger: it's layer 9 problem | 09:04 |
| seaLne | :) | 09:04 |
| \sh | apachelogger: fix flashplugin from adobe via disassembling ,-) | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | huh | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | hold on | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | layer 9 | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | hm | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | isn't that like religious? | 09:05 |
| \sh | apachelogger: it's above the osi layer | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | how can python be a religion? :P | 09:06 |
| \sh | apachelogger: layer 8 is the problem in front of the keyboard | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layer_9 | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | In a similar vein, "Layer 9" is jokingly considered to be the religious layer of the OSI model. | 09:06 |
| \sh | apachelogger: layer 9 is the problem of the brain of the problem in front of the keyboard ,-) | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | all very confusing | 09:07 |
| * apachelogger never understood the osi model with 7 layers | 09:07 | |
| apachelogger | 9 is just too much | 09:07 |
| \sh | apachelogger: actually you have more then 7 layers | 09:08 |
| apachelogger | that would explain the ununderstandibility | 09:08 |
| \sh | apachelogger: e.g. mpls .... it's neither layer 2 nor layer 3 it's in between ,-> | 09:08 |
| apachelogger | hm | 09:09 |
| apachelogger | \sh: well, screw OSI | 09:09 |
| \sh | apachelogger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiprotocol_Label_Switching :) | 09:09 |
| apachelogger | \sh: my IT professor used to say: if something is describable using OSI it's probably pretty uncool | 09:10 |
| \sh | "MPLS operates at an OSI Model layer that is generally considered to lie between traditional definitions of Layer 2 (Data Link Layer) and Layer 3 (Network Layer), and thus is often referred to as a "Layer 2.5" protocol." | 09:10 |
| apachelogger | I think I now understand why he said that | 09:11 |
| apachelogger | me@apoc { ~/src/deb/chromium }$ du -sh chromium/ | 09:12 |
| apachelogger | 1.4G chromium/ | 09:12 |
| \sh | grmpf | 09:23 |
| \sh | dual screen on kde4.1 doesn't work as expected... | 09:23 |
| \sh | but gnome works | 09:24 |
| seaLne | it mostly works for me except no background on my left | 09:30 |
| \sh | yes | 09:30 |
| \sh | that was working with fglrx drivers enabled.. | 09:31 |
| \sh | but now, the display manager in systemsettings doesn't even get this config | 09:31 |
| seaLne | i'm just using radeon | 09:31 |
| \sh | btw...did anyone tested ati 8.8 drivers? | 09:31 |
| \sh | argl...read launchpad and you get a clue | 09:36 |
| \sh | seaLne: btw...it looks like that kwin doesn't expand anymore on the second screen...because you can't even click on it and have a menu or whatsoever | 09:42 |
| seaLne | do you get that on your first or second? i get it on my first | 09:48 |
| seaLne | \sh: to clarify that broken on first | 09:49 |
| \sh | seaLne: I get the plasma desktop on the first screen...the second can display windows but no plasma | 10:06 |
| seaLne | weird | 10:06 |
| \sh | xrandr working...virtual desktop size in xorg.conf is 2560x1024 (2x 1280) | 10:07 |
| \sh | gnome does work as expected.. | 10:08 |
| seaLne | but then they don't have plasma :) | 10:08 |
| \sh | seaLne: I wonder if it's kwin or plasma itself... | 10:09 |
| seaLne | is plasma still broken on single head? | 10:10 |
| \sh | nope...plasma works | 10:10 |
| seaLne | out of interest does konq work for web for you? | 10:13 |
| \sh | well...if www.sourcecode.de counts, so yes | 10:14 |
| \sh | intrepid kde4.1.1 here ;) | 10:14 |
| seaLne | same except broken konq | 10:14 |
| seaLne | may just be a result of my hackish upgrade | 10:15 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: ping | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: pong | 10:52 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: I have a question concerning intrepid's freeze system | 10:52 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: now that kgrubeditor is uploaded, if I release a new version before interpid is released, will it make it in? | 10:53 |
| Artemis_Fowl | or stick to 0.8.1? | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: we can file a feature freeze exception | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | which is most likely to get granted with a very small amount of big feature changes/additions | 10:55 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: well it fixes a bunch of grave bugs | 10:55 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: if so, when is the deadline? | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: is it bug fix only? | 10:55 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: and additions as well | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | deadline is before cd creation IIRC | 10:56 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: which is when? a rough date would be nice | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: most likely the FFe will not be granted after beta | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | so we should try to get it in before october 2nd | 10:58 |
| Artemis_Fowl | ok good | 10:58 |
| Artemis_Fowl | almost a month | 10:58 |
| ScottK | If it's bugfix only an FFe is not required, so be careful not to add new features, even small, low risk ones. | 11:42 |
| ScottK | Everyone please note that ISO testing for Alpha 5 Kubuntu is sorely needed. | 11:43 |
| reisi | has anyone noticed that akgregator-kde4 does not recommend any backend for storing the articles and thus it crashes when i open it? through kontact i can configure it and it lists no available backends | 11:48 |
| reisi | by recommending i mean the akregator-kde4 debian package does not recommend or depend on anything other than kde/qt libs | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | reisi: -(~:$)-> less /var/cache/apt/archives/akregator_4%3a4.1.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | grep storage | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | -rw-r--r-- root/root 4327 2008-09-01 21:12 ./usr/share/kde4/services/akregator_mk4storage_plugin.desktop | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | -rw-r--r-- root/root 198252 2008-09-01 21:15 ./usr/lib/kde4/akregator_mk4storage_plugin.so | 11:57 |
| reisi | apachelogger: aah i thought it would be a depedency, as there's a way to change it.. | 12:19 |
| reisi | apachelogger: ok it seems that it wasn't a breakage but rather than akregator disliking my old configuration files | 12:21 |
| apachelogger | reisi: old = kde3? | 12:22 |
| reisi | apachelogger: 4.1.0 | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | reisi: got it back upped? | 12:22 |
| reisi | yep | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | reisi: please send it to apachelogger@ubuntu.com | 12:23 |
| reisi | apachelogger: i just renamed the $HOME/.kde4/share/apps/akregator to another; it seemed to fix it | 12:23 |
| reisi | apachelogger: should be arriving any second now | 12:28 |
| reisi | apachelogger: attached is the .tar.bz2 and backtrace from kcrash; though i doubt it contains anything useful | 12:29 |
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| metellius | ark in kubuntu is compiled without libzip support, so I'm getting lots of bug reports about ark not being able to open zip files | 13:17 |
| metellius | any packagers out there that can confirm this by looking at a compile output or something? (i am not familiar with the kubuntu build process) | 13:17 |
| Riddell | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17242047/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.kdeutils_4:4.1.1-0ubuntu2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz is the build log | 13:21 |
| Riddell | it says "-- Found LibZip: /usr/include" | 13:22 |
| Riddell | metellius: yes (to #kde-devel | 13:22 |
| seele | ScottK: i dont see the iso listed on cdimage? | 13:23 |
| Riddell | metellius: kubuntu-members-kde4 packages is http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16405913/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.kdeutils-kde4_4:4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz | 13:25 |
| Riddell | which says "-- Could not find OPTIONAL package LibZip" | 13:25 |
| Nightrose | metellius: i can open zip files just fine here now - kde 4.1.1 | 13:26 |
| Nightrose | on hardy | 13:26 |
| metellius | Nightrose: kubuntu? | 13:26 |
| Nightrose | yes | 13:26 |
| Nightrose | oh | 13:26 |
| Nightrose | sec | 13:26 |
| Nightrose | metellius: nevermind - ark doesn't show anything | 13:27 |
| Nightrose | so confirming | 13:27 |
| metellius | mhm, that's the bug. | 13:27 |
| metellius | Riddell: what was the differences between the first and second links you gave me? | 13:27 |
| Riddell | metellius: first is intrepid, second is hardy backports | 13:27 |
| Riddell | metellius: we couldn't add libzip for a long time because it wasn't security reviewed, I've since added it to intrepid but nobody has added it to hardy backports | 13:28 |
| metellius | Riddell: oh | 13:28 |
| metellius | so you might be the person to complain to about it being compiled with off_t = 32bit? | 13:28 |
| Riddell | about which? | 13:29 |
| metellius | libzip | 13:29 |
| Riddell | I've never touched libzip myself, I think we get it straight from debian | 13:29 |
| Riddell | yes, we do | 13:29 |
| metellius | I see | 13:29 |
| metellius | this sounds icky | 13:30 |
| Riddell | metellius: what problems does that cause, and can it be easily fixed? | 13:30 |
| metellius | well, ark is compiled with off_t = 64bit, but libzip is with 32bit and it's causing various buggy behaviours | 13:30 |
| Nightrose | metellius: any idea why dolphin can open the zip files btw? | 13:30 |
| metellius | Nightrose: yes, the problem mentioned above; kubuntu does not compile it with libzip | 13:31 |
| Riddell | vorian, JontheEchidna, apachelogger: anyone fancy adding libzip to kdeutils in hardy kubuntu-members-kde4? | 13:31 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: I could | 13:31 |
| doc__ | hi there | 13:32 |
| Nightrose | metellius: well yea - but dolphin doesn't have libzip either then does it? or does it use something else than libzip? | 13:32 |
| ScottK | seele: I believe http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20080903.1/ is the one that wants testing. | 13:32 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: you would get metellius's eternal gratitude :) | 13:32 |
| Riddell | hi doc__ | 13:32 |
| smarter | I could too but doesn't have hardy to test and don't really want to break anything (: | 13:32 |
| metellius | Nightrose: I think dolphin uses kio, which uses karchive libs | 13:33 |
| \sh | metellius: how do I tell libzip to use off_t = 64bit if it doesn't set that...imho it should be pulled from some glibc includes? | 13:33 |
| Nightrose | metellius: ah ok | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | yay | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | I downloaded the ubuntu cd image | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 13:34 |
| * apachelogger shouldn't download stuff before first up of coffee | 13:34 | |
| ScottK | I got my shipit special order in the mail yesterday. | 13:35 |
| ScottK | It was all Ubuntu. Urgh. | 13:35 |
| Riddell | meh | 13:35 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 13:35 |
| \sh | metellius: it really looks like upstream didn't even think about supporting 64bit sizes ,-) | 13:35 |
| metellius | stupid stupid stupid | 13:35 |
| metellius | I wonder if anyone's actually using libzip | 13:35 |
| \sh | metellius: the fix should be easy | 13:36 |
| metellius | it should be | 13:36 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I've got a couple of fixed pending for after Alpha 5 gets out so I think we ought to be able to fully build KDE 4.1.1 on all archs, not just the supported ones. | 13:37 |
| ScottK | fixed/fixes | 13:37 |
| \sh | metellius: anyhow...if it uses sys/types.h for off_t it should support off_t == 64bit size out of the box | 13:37 |
| metellius | it does that | 13:38 |
| \sh | so it should use 64bit sizes | 13:38 |
| \sh | because sys/types.h defines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/43320/ | 13:39 |
| \sh | but it can be, that libzip doesn't define file_offset64 | 13:39 |
| metellius | yes, that's what I was looking for | 13:40 |
| \sh | that's the bug... | 13:40 |
| metellius | someone wrote it in a bug report, but bugs.kde.org is bugging now | 13:40 |
| Riddell | ScottK: great | 13:41 |
| metellius | \sh: how can it be fixed? | 13:42 |
| \sh | metellius: the fix should be to pass somehow the __USE_FILE_OFFSET64 | 13:42 |
| \sh | to the libzip source | 13:42 |
| \sh | then it should use 64bit offsets even in the zip header...but I don't know if this is good, because it could break zip compatiblity | 13:43 |
| \sh | zip archive compatiblity to be more precise | 13:43 |
| JontheEchidna | metellius: uploading to the PPA now | 13:43 |
| metellius | JontheEchidna: uploading what? | 13:44 |
| JontheEchidna | kdeutils with libzip-dev as a build-depend | 13:45 |
| metellius | \sh: I'm not sure about that either. but I do know that lots of bugs related to using the stat I got from libzip vanished once I ninja hacked the zipplugin to see off_t as 32bit | 13:45 |
| JontheEchidna | once it builds everything should be ok | 13:45 |
| metellius | JontheEchidna: thanks a lot, that solves the problem with zip files not being opened at all. | 13:46 |
| metellius | next up is the one about off_t and file_offset_64 | 13:46 |
| \sh | metellius: well that's normal, if anything else is using LFS which means off_t == 64bit then libzip has a problem when you pass a 64bit offset to a 32bit offset var...but as libzip is using off_t == 32bit in the zip struct, it could really be, that the 32bit offset is a general archive default for zip (thinking about the time of inventing zip ;)) | 13:46 |
| metellius | hmm, true | 13:48 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Since I gather you're back off vacation ... In addition to ISO testing, the other thing we need for Alpha 5 is release notes (particularly knetworkmanager doesn't work). | 13:48 |
| \sh | metellius: http://www.pkware.com/documents/casestudies/APPNOTE.TXT | 13:49 |
| \sh | metellius: and there is another zip format, named zip64 (tm) | 13:49 |
| \sh | where the size offsets are all 8bytes and not 4 bytes as used in the old zip | 13:50 |
| metellius | in that case | 13:50 |
| \sh | metellius: and reagrding the document, zip64 should be the default format nowadays | 13:50 |
| metellius | libzip should really have internal logic that detects the format and hides the difference between a universal zip_stat struct in the headers | 13:52 |
| metellius | either way; my ninja fix was removed just before the tag, and replace with an additional CMAKE flag for the zipplugin | 13:53 |
| metellius | http://www.svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/KDE/search?revision=856563 | 13:53 |
| metellius | so if I understand the cmake code correctly, then kubuntu people can enable the cmake flag LIBZIP_COMPILED_WITH_32BIT_OFF_T until things have been fixed properly | 13:55 |
| metellius | kubuntu packagers: can I have someone have a look at this for me? | 13:57 |
| JontheEchidna | somebody mucked up kde4bindings for hardy | 14:00 |
| JontheEchidna | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 14:00 |
| JontheEchidna | python-kde4: Conflicts: python-kde4-dev (< 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1 is to be installed | 14:00 |
| JontheEchidna | meaning kdeutils-kde4 won't build :( | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | neato | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: where did that new kdeutils FTBFS come from? | 14:31 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: looking at it I just need to add the ~hardy1~ppa1 to the python-kde4 conflicts | 14:31 |
| JontheEchidna | Conflicts: python-kde4-dev (<< 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu1) | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | did I do that? | 14:31 |
| JontheEchidna | ya | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | uncool | 14:31 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll upload the fix after I rebuild the source pacakge | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:32 |
| JontheEchidna | or do we need -0ubuntux at all? | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | no | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | I am wondering why add it | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | maybe copy'n'paste | 14:33 |
| jussi01 | oooh, the ninjas are here! Nice work on 4.1.1 Ninjas :) | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | :) | 14:33 |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 14:33 |
| * apachelogger is also wondering | 14:33 | |
| * apachelogger just forget about what | 14:33 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Just use 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu1~ | 14:34 |
| ScottK | Err | 14:34 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: we shouldn't need -0ubuntu anything | 14:34 |
| ScottK | 4:4.1.1~ | 14:34 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: what is that ~ doing? | 14:35 |
| ScottK | '~' is the lowest in the sort order, so 4:4.1.1~ means 4:4.1.1 with anything or nothing after it. 4:4.1.1~ is lower than 4:4.1.1. | 14:36 |
| ScottK | In this case it's probably not important, but for some packages it can help avoid conflicts. | 14:36 |
| * apachelogger finds that confusing | 14:37 | |
| apachelogger | it is > 4.1.0.9 but < 4.1.0? | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: so is qyoto not building an upstream problem? | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: it is?! | 14:42 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't know... | 14:42 |
| JontheEchidna | that why I asked | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | qyoto builds on i386 and am64 for sure | 14:42 |
| JontheEchidna | uh, well it's commented out of control for the ppa | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | now seroiusly, this whole thing is way too confusing without packaging in a VCS | 14:43 |
| metellius | did any of the packaging ninjas have a look at the build problem fix I mentioned above? | 14:45 |
| metellius | (with cmake and LIBZIP_COMPILED_WITH_32BIT_OFF_T) | 14:45 |
| * JontheEchidna wouldn't know how to go about making that change | 14:46 | |
| apachelogger | metellius: poke the libzip dev(s) | 14:54 |
| metellius | well, that's the best solution but it takes time time time | 14:55 |
| metellius | in the meantime the next best solution is for the packages to temporarily adapt | 14:56 |
| * apachelogger feels uncomfortable adding patches which are not in upstream's VCS | 14:56 | |
| apachelogger | rule #1: patches are evil | 14:56 |
| metellius | it's not a patch | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | metellius: but? | 14:56 |
| metellius | you're just setting a cmake variable in the cmake build | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | libzip is using cmake? Oo | 14:57 |
| metellius | nono | 14:57 |
| metellius | my solution is not about touching libzip, but my app, ark | 14:57 |
| metellius | and just enabling a cmake var which i think might already be in 4.1.1 sources | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | stdin: we need an ubuntu plugin to generate svn revision urls | 15:00 |
| * apachelogger diggs through his todos, seraching his sponsoring list | 15:02 | |
| apachelogger | metellius: btw, is batch stuff in trunk finished yet? | 15:02 |
| stdin | apachelogger: what do you mean? | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | [16:04:32] <apachelogger> insanity: svn 856563 | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | [16:04:33] <insanity> http://websvn.kde.org/?rev=856563&view=rev | 15:04 |
| metellius | apachelogger: it does seem to work on my files here, but I don't want to guarantee anything until I've tested it more thorougly | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | ok | 15:05 |
| stdin | apachelogger: I don't think that would be to hard, I'll add it to my "Ever-Changing Ever-Growing Magical ToDo List" ™ | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | stdin: if ubutto was running ruby I would make you a patch :P | 15:07 |
| stdin | well, it's supybot, and supybot sux0rs massively :p | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | rbot ftw! | 15:09 |
| asfak | are we going to have window partition automount in final kubuntu release as Ubuntu ? | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | metellius: you should make that if somewhat proper implemented :P | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | asfak: automount? | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | or maybe that cmake thingy is proper | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | certainly looks uncmakish to me | 15:11 |
| asfak | apachelogger, i cannot access my windows drive from dolphin though i could see them as a user. I never had such problem in ubuntu. if i kdesudo dolphin, i could access all win partition. This is very irritating. | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | didn't we have that in KDE 3? | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | asfak: what happens when you try accesing the partition in dolphin? | 15:15 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: nothing happens, just nothing. It used to work too | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | cool | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | anything in .xsession-errors? | 15:15 |
| asfak | i could see them but could not access drive. But as root i could. this happens in two pc | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | asfak: define not access | 15:16 |
| * apachelogger can't even start dolphin with kdesudo | 15:16 | |
| JontheEchidna | uh | 15:17 |
| JontheEchidna | if you go to the windows partition with kdesudo | 15:17 |
| asfak | i could not see any file when clicking C_Drive or D_drive. Nothing happens. | 15:17 |
| JontheEchidna | it mounts, and then you can go to it as a regular user | 15:17 |
| JontheEchidna | nothing in xsession-errors btw | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/43355/ | 15:18 |
| JontheEchidna | a patch is causing our problems? | 15:19 |
| JontheEchidna | yay for evil patches | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | a patch should be solving it! | 15:19 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 15:19 |
| asfak | yes that is a new problem but occassionally it opens. it opened yesterday with sudo dolphin from konsole but not now. | 15:20 |
| JontheEchidna | bbiab | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | luckily this patch includes less debugging than my wall | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | + return "kdesu"; | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | question is really whether this would include libexec as possibe binary location | 15:21 |
| asfak | i get this error while sudo dolphin | 15:22 |
| asfak | <unknown program name>(6680)/: Communication problem with "dolphin" , it probably crashed. | 15:22 |
| asfak | Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." " | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | where? | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | or when | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | haha, dolphin is also talking a lot :P | 15:23 |
| asfak | apachelogger, could u sudo dolphin from konsole ? | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | a) no sudo for gui apps | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | b) as stated earlierit doesn't work | 15:24 |
| asfak | i have been using that way since alpha4. It can open konqueror. Yesterday i started dolphin that way. This is just recent problem. To try just opened konqueror as root | 15:27 |
| asfak | apachelogger, i could sudo all gui apps except dolphin | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | !sudo | 15:29 |
| ubottu | sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE) | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | !kdesu | 15:29 |
| ubottu | In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) | 15:29 |
| asfak | make myself more clear. kdesudo konqueror - ok, kdesudo kate - ok, kdesudo dolphin - open and freezed. | 15:32 |
| * apachelogger doesn't follow the problem anymore | 15:34 | |
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| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: so qyoto should be ok to re-enable in kde4bindings for Hardy? | 15:38 |
| metellius | apachelogger: = harald? | 15:39 |
| asfak | anyway back to main point, are developers concious of window partition automount problem. ? Please do something about that. | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: if it builds | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | metellius: yes | 15:41 |
| metellius | norway? | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | nay, austria :P | 15:41 |
| metellius | oh. | 15:41 |
| metellius | my name's harald too, but i'm norwegian | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | hehe :) | 15:42 |
| metellius | but what did you mean by implement proper abovce? | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | metellius: IMHO it should be a cmake cache option bound to that if | 15:43 |
| metellius | I don't know how to do that ... | 15:43 |
| metellius | anyways | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | metellius: well, it doesn't matter because the solution is temporary | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | but better don't let aleXXX look at your cmake files ;-) | 15:44 |
| metellius | I'm suspecting that all distros have the same libzip problem, so I'm considering enabling that option by default and instead taking user input to disable the quickfix | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | then you should definitely use a cache option | 15:46 |
| nixternal | hola | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | metellius: e.g.: set (KDE_DEFAULT_HOME ".kde" CACHE STRING "The default KDE home directory" ) | 15:46 |
| nixternal | kmail-kde4 is kind of sloppy still | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | metellius: otherwise the option will not show up in ccmake/cmake-gui | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: you used to have important complaints :P | 15:47 |
| nixternal | ya, to busy for that stuff nowadays :) | 15:48 |
| nixternal | Riddell: do you like alpin better than mutt? | 15:48 |
| metellius | apachelogger: oh, cache cars is the -Dlalala flags... that's actually what I was talking about, only with my unprofessional cmake lingo :) | 15:48 |
| nixternal | mutt + gmail == damn close to heaven | 15:48 |
| metellius | *cache vars | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: mutt-ng is developed by an austrian, don't use it! | 15:48 |
| nixternal | mutt + gmail + imap :) | 15:48 |
| nixternal | apachelogger: hahaha | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | metellius: ok :) | 15:49 |
| * apachelogger needs a zip | 15:49 | |
| metellius | zipplugin! | 15:49 |
| metellius | oh, nm | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | I am seriously awesome | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | *uploading to ppa* | 15:50 |
| JontheEchidna | uploading what? | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | the change suggested by metellius | 15:50 |
| JontheEchidna | to kdeutils? | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | metellius: what exactly is different now? | 15:51 |
| JontheEchidna | It'll fail, kde4bindings still has ~25 minutes left to build | 15:51 |
| * apachelogger isn't sure that cmake stuff worked out properly | 15:51 | |
| nixternal | our infrastructure team is hating me right about now...I am making them work their arses off while I work from home today :) | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: intrepid | 15:51 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 15:51 |
| metellius | I just started coding the cmake cache var right now | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: lol, awesome | 15:51 |
| jjesse | nixternal way to delegate | 15:51 |
| nixternal | you know it | 15:51 |
| nixternal | give me my damn vm's now! | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | delegate > work | 15:52 |
| nixternal | I need to create a testing yum repo and the sooner the better | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | yummy ;-) | 15:52 |
| * apachelogger thinks that one was quite bad | 15:52 | |
| nixternal | I have to much work to do, so what I did was put the Infrastructure team as my impediment on all of my blocked projects :) | 15:52 |
| nixternal | management will strangle them! | 15:52 |
| jjesse | that's awesome | 15:52 |
| jjesse | kick them in the baby maker while your at it | 15:52 |
| nixternal | lol | 15:52 |
| metellius | apachelogger: wait, what are you actually doing? I discovered the 4.1.1 tag doesn't have the mentioned cmake fix | 15:53 |
| metellius | http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.1.1/kdeutils/ark/plugins/libzipplugin/CMakeLists.txt?revision=853753&view=markup | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | metellius: that doesn't exactly stop me from patching it in, right? ;-) | 15:53 |
| metellius | oh, you're actually patching stuff | 15:54 |
| metellius | ok | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | at times I do | 15:54 |
| metellius | as long as it will work for 4.1.1 | 15:54 |
| metellius | I can provide a better solution for 4.1.2 | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | rule #2: patches are less evil when they come from upstream, they are still evil though | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | metellius: I'll just use \sh as patch tester to see if it works | 15:55 |
| metellius | ok | 15:59 |
| seele | Riddell: did the icon label changes not make it in to alpha 5? | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | they did, but they are not working IIRC | 16:00 |
| seele | so it seems | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | seele: check the setting in systemsettings, it should be set to along side but it doesn't apply | 16:00 |
| seele | yep | 16:01 |
| seele | so much for testing a new default | 16:02 |
| JontheEchidna | I just had a user in #kubuntu-kde4 say that setting icon sizes for toolbars doesn't apply in most applications | 16:02 |
| JontheEchidna | I think that if you have custom-set settings for toolbars that the global settings won't apply at all | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | that was what I was flaming about yesterday | 16:03 |
| seele | so the problem is that apps are presetting toolbars? | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | KDE got 300000 settings and 200000 of them are bogus | 16:03 |
| \sh | apachelogger: you don't want to patch libzip until you find a way to tell libzip to use zip64 format | 16:04 |
| metellius | \sh: libzip is untouched here | 16:04 |
| metellius | I just realized that the suggested " remove_definitions(-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64) | 16:05 |
| \sh | ah I thought you two were talking about taht ,-> | 16:05 |
| metellius | line doesn't work at all... | 16:05 |
| metellius | meh, I need to sleep now. I will look at it more tomorrow. this really needs to be worked around quickly though | 16:06 |
| metellius | a side effect is that because the struct is misread all files in a zip are marked as being password protected (!) | 16:07 |
| metellius | if it wasn't for libzip not being included in kubuntu already, someone would probably have reported a bug that ark thinks all zips are password protected... | 16:08 |
| Riddell | seele: should have done | 16:08 |
| Riddell | seele: but we could have messed up | 16:08 |
| Riddell | ToolButtonStyle=TextBesideIcon is there | 16:11 |
| JontheEchidna | How do you tell something to rebuild in a PPA? | 16:13 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, I see | 16:13 |
| Riddell | seele: mm, it doesn't work, I wonder why not | 16:20 |
| Riddell | Ubuntu Developer Week starting now https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuDeveloperWeek | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: didn't that start on monday? | 17:11 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yeah but I compeltely forgot about it until now, and I'm speaking in a couple of hours | 17:12 |
| * apachelogger was at some gnome sessions | 17:12 | |
| apachelogger | wasn't too educating/entertaining | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | :( | 17:12 |
| smarter | how was the bzr packaging session? | 17:19 |
| * smarter thinks he could steal some things from there for his bzr packaging howto :] | 17:19 | |
| yuriy | this is kind of neat, but should really be part of launchpad: http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/kdebase | 17:27 |
| Riddell | yep | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | it's all too spreaded | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | some stuff is at qa.ubuntu.com some is at ubuntwire.com some is in lp some is in strange other locations... | 17:31 |
| Czessi | JontheEchidna: may i upload lancelot to the kde4-member-ppa? i've upload access. http://czessi.kubuntu-de.org/packages/lancelot/ | 17:39 |
| JontheEchidna | Czessi: Sure! I haven't had time to backport... | 17:40 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: I don't suppose you remember how to stop a pykde app from segfaulting on exit? | 17:41 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: make the KApplication global | 17:42 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: it is http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/web3.py | 17:45 |
| Riddell | if I remove the two addressbar lines it doesn't crash | 17:45 |
| Czessi | JontheEchidna: thanks, uploaded | 17:47 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | maybe something is broken in qlineedit? | 17:49 |
| JontheEchidna | The other trick was creating a KMainWindow and setting your widget as it's central widget | 17:50 |
| JontheEchidna | setMainWidget or setCentralWidget or something | 17:50 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: I fixed it | 17:52 |
| JontheEchidna | http://paste.ubuntu.com/43401/ | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:54 |
| apachelogger | I think I don't want to learn python | 17:54 |
| Riddell | cor, thanks JontheEchidna | 17:56 |
| JontheEchidna | yw | 17:56 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes you do, then you can fix this bug which causes a segfault unless you have a main window :) | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | but ruby doesn't segfault all :P | 17:59 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yeah but only because rdale is a genius who never allows any bugs near him | 18:03 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: less work at debugging ;-) | 18:07 |
| * apachelogger is wondering whether our rubyqt is actually built with webkit | 18:07 | |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I just noticed sometimes folderview applet is broken due to localized folder names (xdg) | 18:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's due to desktop:/ ioslave hardcoding the Desktop folder name | 18:08 |
| Tonio_ | currently investigating the issue | 18:08 |
| JontheEchidna | Tonio_: could be kubuntu-default-setting's fault | 18:11 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: yep I know :) | 18:13 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: but that's not | 18:13 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: it looks at the kde desktopPath setting | 18:16 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: this, when undefined, goes back to the standard Desktop, while it should use the xdg standard dirs | 18:16 |
| JontheEchidna | o, ic | 18:16 |
| * apachelogger feels a patch rolling towards KDE | 18:18 | |
| apachelogger | uh, ah, oh | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | no Qt::WebView | 18:18 |
| * apachelogger gets kde4bindings | 18:18 | |
| * JontheEchidna testbuilds kdepimlibs w/ the crash fix | 18:19 | |
| apachelogger | there is a crash in kdepimlibs? | 18:20 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 264370 | 18:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 264370 in kdepimlibs "[intrepid] kmail crashes when reading a Google Calendar invitation email" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264370 | 18:20 |
| JontheEchidna | upstream fixed it in trunk | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | ic | 18:22 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: ./kutils/kdeglobals.kcfg: <default>$HOME/Desktop</default> | 18:28 |
| Tonio_ | hardcoded, toooooooooooooooooooooo bad | 18:28 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 18:28 |
| Tonio_ | not to say ugly | 18:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: any idea how to get the xdg desktop folder name ? | 18:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no xdg util doing this | 18:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the desktop folder name should probably be an env variable or something | 18:29 |
| Riddell | QDesktopServices should do it | 18:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the point is that I don't really know where to patch in fact.... | 18:29 |
| Tonio_ | hard to do except is startkde sets the env or something | 18:30 |
| Tonio_ | then I can patch the kcfg file to use it | 18:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: maybe patching kstandarddirs or something... | 18:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: afaics env variables are set by kded | 18:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: patching kded to provide the env variable and the kcfg file to use the env by default, is that correct to you ? | 18:31 |
| Riddell | the environment variable is in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs | 18:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it is not exported in the session in fact | 18:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's my concern | 18:33 |
| Riddell | doesn't need to be, KDE should use QDesktopServices | 18:33 |
| Riddell | but I've no idea what it actually does use | 18:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, it creates the folder, so basically, there is a way to read this, I just have to grep the code :) | 18:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: let's go | 18:34 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: kdebluetooth is currently in universe and unseeded, should I move it to main and seed it? | 18:35 |
| Tonio_ | yes please | 18:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no idea why it went back to universe btw | 18:35 |
| Tonio_ | source package is the same name.... or maybe you demoted it manually before ? | 18:36 |
| Riddell | not that I remember | 18:36 |
| Riddell | I think it was just unseeded and an archive admin would have demoted it | 18:36 |
| Riddell | promoted now | 18:36 |
| Tonio_ | super, thanks | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think you should set the default window size very big, there is a rendering glitch in oxygen | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot086.png | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | right bottom corner | 18:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I can patch kde to source the user-dirs.dirs file and export the variables | 18:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: then patch the kcfg file to user the env | 18:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: does this sound correct way to proceed for you ? | 18:48 |
| Tonio_ | sounds correct for me | 18:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: xdg variables should be exported btw no reason not to do so | 18:49 |
| Riddell | still seems better to use QDesktopServices, always better to reuse an existing class | 18:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well if we can find what is the process reading the kcfg file value, then I'm fine with this too.... | 18:51 |
| Tonio_ | lemme look | 18:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/qdesktopservices.html#details | 18:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I don't see how can that read xdg values.... | 18:54 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/qdesktopservices.html#StandardLocation-enum | 18:55 |
| Riddell | not apachelogger | 18:56 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/qdesktopservices.html#StandardLocation-enum | 18:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: thanks | 18:58 |
| Tonio_ | KGlobal::dirs()->localxdgdatadir(); | 18:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I suspect KGlobal::dirs()->localxdgdesktopdir(); should work too | 18:59 |
| Riddell | voila | 18:59 |
| Riddell | time for my talk | 18:59 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: where? | 18:59 |
| Riddell | #ubuntu-classroom | 19:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-commits&m=121838145712699&w=2 | 19:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it's already been fixed, so we may just wait for 4.1.2 no ? | 19:20 |
| Tonio_ | unless we'll release with 4.1.1 ? | 19:20 |
| Riddell | we'll use 4.1.2 | 19:21 |
| Tonio_ | hum no that's 4.2.0 trunk.... damn ;) | 19:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: commit is from 08/18, should already be in 4.1.1.... strange | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | Can an motu sponsor bug 264370 for me? | 19:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 264370 in kdepimlibs "[intrepid] kmail crashes when reading a Google Calendar invitation email" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264370 | 19:29 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, coredev actually | 19:30 |
| * JontheEchidna subscribed the wrong group on LP... | 19:30 | |
| ScottK | I'll unsubscribe uus | 19:33 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I suspect that should wait until after the Alpha 5 freeze is lifted. | 19:34 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: thanks | 19:36 |
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| ScottK | Someone who knows about KDE and Ruby (apachelogger?) ought to look at question #44101 | 20:02 |
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| seaLne | when i originally packaged qt4 ruby it couldn't coexist with qt3 ruby | 20:56 |
| ScottK | Looks like we need to get that fixed. | 20:57 |
| Riddell | has anything changed to allow it now? | 21:01 |
| seaLne | or am i thinking of korundum, hmmm | 21:04 |
| seaLne | no conflicts in control | 21:05 |
| seaLne | but i'm very rusty on packaging | 21:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: got the patch from svn | 21:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: still a kdelibs upload preparing or can I upload ? | 21:08 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: go ahead | 21:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ok ;) | 21:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: uploaded | 21:14 |
| ScottK | Is the Alpha 5 freeze over? | 21:26 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I guess unless you think otherwise I'll go ahead with fixing indi so we can build kdeedu on all archs. | 21:27 |
| ScottK | (I do have some testing to do, so it won't get uploaded immediately in any case. | 21:28 |
| ScottK | Riddell: The other one I intend to tackle is kde4bindings to fix the FTBFS on lpia and the depwait on hppa. | 21:36 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: pong # 2? | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: nvm | 21:46 |
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| apachelogger | oh right | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: can we please get a wysiwyg editor for kubuntu.org | 21:58 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: If you find a module for Drupal that will do that, and the sysadmins can/want to install it, sure | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | raphink: http://drupal.org/project/fckeditor | 22:00 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: ^ | 22:02 |
| apachelogger | raphink: sorry | 22:02 |
| Riddell | ScottK: not sure what's happening with the alpha, I've not heard from slangasek | 22:04 |
| ScottK | I just saw him say the archive is still frozen, so I'm holding off. | 22:04 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: I'll poke them | 22:05 |
| apachelogger | thank you | 22:05 |
| jpds | apachelogger, ryanakca: Please send an email to rt@ubuntu.com | 22:06 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: Would you like to, since you could probably better explain why we would need it? | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | what is rt@ubuntu? | 22:07 |
| Riddell | the sysadmin request tracker | 22:07 |
| jpds | apachelogger: It's the Ubuntu Request Tracker, where we keep track of what needs doing, etc. | 22:08 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | welcome to the 90's | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | request tracking on a list | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: we need it because I ain't know nothing about html and thus it's pretty hard to pimp our news | 22:09 |
| * apachelogger is in fact doing that right now so he can't write to the rt :P | 22:10 | |
| JontheEchidna | not much you can do with HTML unless you have control of teh CSS | 22:10 |
| JontheEchidna | well I suppose you could embed the CSS in the HTML | 22:10 |
| jpds | apachelogger: By what I've seen; Drupal modules that don't come by default have to be "reviewed" by the Security Team. | 22:10 |
| apachelogger | jpds: I assume soneone already reviwed that thing | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | since it is the one and only true wysiwyg editor for drupal | 22:16 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I finally removed those packages you were asking for | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: thank you | 22:25 |
| jpds | apachelogger: RT would be the place to send the request, with details of why you need it. | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think I got some more for tomorrow already ;-) | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.1 opinion please | 22:28 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: nice improved howto | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | jpds: I am too shy :S | 22:29 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: bling! | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | cool | 22:30 |
| * apachelogger isn't 100% happy with it, but it will do for now | 22:30 | |
| JontheEchidna | screenie ftw | 22:30 |
| JontheEchidna | it almost makes that screenshot look widescreen :P | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: next time I make a batshot in real widescreen, JontheEchidna's is a waste of horizontal space :P | 22:32 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: IMHO the node theme should be changed | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | the date is too much in your face and the news title is pretty much Lost(tm) | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | https://shipit.kubuntu.org needs to get the new design | 22:35 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: Hmm... yes, could you file a bug for me please under the kubuntu-website project so I don't forget and I'll get it done this weekend | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | stdin: ubottu needs a generic search plugin for lp stuff | 22:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it uses the same design as the wiki. shipit takes a while to get changed because it's part of launchpad | 22:36 |
| * apachelogger has to digg through the konqueror for the third time today | 22:36 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, the wiki should be changed as well ;-) | 22:36 |
| jpds | apachelogger: Shy? Warum? | 22:37 |
| apachelogger | jpds: I have no social life anymore, I think I am becoming a nerd | 22:37 |
| sebas | apachelogger: you have social life ... IRC! tadaaaaaaaaaaaa! | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | sebas: no, not even here :P | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | alwas working all day long | 22:40 |
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| stdin | apachelogger: Netscape invented the web browser for a reason you know ;) | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | so that google can make a better one? :P | 22:40 |
| stdin | I don't know if it's better, but it's definitely shiny! | 22:41 |
| stdin | and being able to kill a plugin (flash) when it's blows up is a decent feature | 22:42 |
| * apachelogger is in love with chrome | 22:43 | |
| apachelogger | which supports the theory of becoming a nerd | 22:43 |
| stdin | I would love it, if they get a Linux port working soon | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: bug 264860 | 22:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 264860 in kubuntu-website "node theme needs improvements" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264860 | 22:44 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: thanks | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | stdin: working is not so much the problem, I think there is already a GTK GUI port in progress (with screenshots... ;-), getting it usable however.... | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | and before some asks, they going to render the GUI themselfs using a cairo similar google development | 22:46 |
| stdin | I would have a look at it more closely, but the 3GB download is not funny | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | stdin: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/chromium_0.1~svn20080904.tar.gz | 22:48 |
| apachelogger | skia is that cairo-similar thing | 22:48 |
| stdin | I mean the svn download from chromium.org. it gets about 400MB of chromium and 2.6 of other stuff (including WebKit) | 22:50 |
| stdin | was a bit of a surprise when it munched up my partition | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | ohhhhhhhhhh | 22:51 |
| apachelogger | my mouse is running low on batter | 22:51 |
| apachelogger | y | 22:51 |
| apachelogger | omg | 22:51 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: did you add libzip to kdeutils in hardy? | 22:55 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: needs a rebuild | 22:56 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: what does? | 22:56 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: kdeutils, kde4bindings was causing a FTBFS | 22:56 |
| JontheEchidna | kde4bindings has been fixed, but I decided to wait a bit to prevent more FTBFS's due to the binary packages not being published | 22:57 |
| JontheEchidna | should be ready by now | 22:57 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: that doesn't answer my original question though :) | 23:00 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: I did | 23:00 |
| JontheEchidna | ...add libzip to the build-deps | 23:01 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: I knew I could count on you :) | 23:01 |
| JontheEchidna | hehe | 23:01 |
| JontheEchidna | yay, looks like it'll build this time | 23:04 |
| Riddell | does pinentry-qt4 work for anyone? | 23:18 |
| apachelogger | works for me | 23:19 |
| Riddell | hum, not here | 23:19 |
| Riddell | I've no idea how to debug it | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what does .gnupg/gpg-agent.conf look like? | 23:20 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/43479/ | 23:20 |
| ScottK | Riddell: How about gpg.conf? | 23:21 |
| ScottK | It needs to have 'use-agent' in it. | 23:21 |
| apachelogger | I think our default gpg.conf comes with use-agent | 23:21 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: add pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt4' | 23:21 |
| ScottK | It does. | 23:21 |
| Riddell | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/43480/ | 23:21 |
| apachelogger | 'pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt4' | 23:21 |
| apachelogger | to the gpg-agent.conf that is | 23:21 |
| ScottK | Line 208, so that's good. | 23:22 |
| Riddell | yay, rebooted X and it works | 23:25 |
| Riddell | but why should I have to add that pinentry-program line? I never did for the qt3 version | 23:25 |
| ScottK | I don't think you should. | 23:25 |
| ScottK | It's recommended even for older versions in a lot of how-to's, but I've not found it needed. | 23:26 |
| * ScottK heads out. | 23:27 | |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 23:29 |
| apachelogger | the ubuntu kmail+gpg howto says one should add it | 23:29 |
| JontheEchidna | there's a bug about pinentry-qt4 not working by default | 23:33 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 263357 | 23:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 263357 in pinentry-qt4 "pinentry-qt4 doesn't update /etc/alternatives" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263357 | 23:33 |
| apachelogger | that explains it | 23:37 |
| Riddell | ah hah | 23:37 |
| * apachelogger pokes Tonio_ | 23:37 | |
| apachelogger | ah it is from the nixternal | 23:38 |
| apachelogger | shouldn't master nixternal be busy with work? Oo | 23:38 |
| JontheEchidna | so where do I add pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt4? | 23:39 |
| JontheEchidna | in the conf file? | 23:39 |
| JontheEchidna | *where in the conf file do I add it? | 23:39 |
| * JontheEchidna is horrible at asking questions today | 23:39 | |
| Riddell | in ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf | 23:40 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: but try manually changing that alternatives link instead | 23:40 |
| JontheEchidna | everything in there is a binary file | 23:40 |
| Riddell | they're symlinks | 23:41 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, I see | 23:41 |
| JontheEchidna | It works! | 23:47 |
| Riddell | yay | 23:54 |
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