| nullack | It also occurs under the nv driver | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | nullack: ok | 00:42 |
| fta | Jazzva, do you see that too ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=909641 | 00:42 |
| asac | nullack: try to downgrade nspluginwrapper | 00:42 |
| asac | to the hardy version | 00:42 |
| fta | Jazzva, (i do) | 00:42 |
| asac | nullack: and sudo apt-get install --reinstall nspluginwrapper | 00:43 |
| nullack | asac: will test and report result | 00:43 |
| nullack | asac: before or after downgrade? | 00:43 |
| asac | nullack: sorry ... last line should reed: | 00:43 |
| asac | flashplugin-nonfree | 00:43 |
| asac | ;) | 00:43 |
| nullack | asac right | 00:43 |
| asac | after downgrading nspluginwrapper | 00:43 |
| asac | :) | 00:43 |
| asac | fta: x86? | 00:44 |
| asac | fta: goes away by downgrading nspluginwrapper? | 00:44 |
| asac | (and reinstalling flashplugin) | 00:44 |
| fta | i don't have nspluginwrapper | 00:46 |
| asac | fta: could you please try it? | 00:46 |
| asac | and see how much worse it is ;) | 00:46 |
| fta | on my laptop (amd64) i have it (obviously), it's sucking far too much cpu | 00:46 |
| asac | fta: yeah. still i would be interested in x86 experiences ;) | 00:47 |
| Jazzva | fta, yep... from time to time | 01:00 |
| Jazzva | I thought it was related to nspluginwrapper, but someone reported that it happens without nspluginwrapper too | 01:01 |
| fta | i see it a lot in prism (xul 1.9), not that much in ff3.1 | 01:02 |
| Jazzva | maybe it's related to fx? | 01:02 |
| Jazzva | I have 3.0.1 | 01:02 |
| Jazzva | fta, bug 250769 | 01:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 250769 in xulrunner-1.9 "Firefox opens new popup window when leaving any page with swfdec content" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250769 | 01:03 |
| asac | ok so dropping windowless support fixes nspluginwrapper quite well here | 01:04 |
| Jazzva | That's what I'm also seeing, beside flickering, and the rest | 01:04 |
| asac | good to know that there is at least that option if w dont find why its so damn slow | 01:04 |
| Jazzva | so damn slow? npw/ | 01:04 |
| Jazzva | ? | 01:04 |
| asac | Jazzva: flashplugin ;) | 01:05 |
| asac | nonfree | 01:05 |
| fta | Jazzva, i'm not seeing this with flash,, i do see a window quickly appear when i close a tab containing an embedded totem | 01:05 |
| asac | its slow as hell here with nspluginwrapper 1.1.0 ;) | 01:05 |
| Jazzva | well, the video is working here nicely with 1.1.0... | 01:06 |
| Jazzva | though, only when I watch directly on youtube :) | 01:06 |
| asac | http://wetter.rtl.de/ ? | 01:06 |
| asac | the card on the left should animate when you hover the mouse | 01:06 |
| asac | err map not card ;) | 01:06 |
| fta | it does here. | 01:07 |
| Jazzva | same here... a bit slower, but not painfully slow | 01:07 |
| fta | it's fine, fluid | 01:07 |
| asac | fta: do you have nspluginwrapper? | 01:07 |
| Jazzva | (though I'm still on celeron 1.7) | 01:07 |
| asac | Jazzva: which driver? | 01:07 |
| fta | no, i'll try but not tonight | 01:07 |
| Jazzva | hmm... let me see :) | 01:07 |
| asac | for nspluginwrapper with windowless + ati driver kills it | 01:08 |
| asac | on amd64 | 01:08 |
| fta | it puts my cpu to the roof | 01:09 |
| Jazzva | I think it's open-source driver for ati... forgot it's name | 01:09 |
| asac | Jazzva: radeonhd? | 01:09 |
| asac | i had that before ... now i have ati as someone said that 3d works there | 01:09 |
| Jazzva | umm... that doesn't sound familiar :) | 01:09 |
| asac | Jazzva: then its just "ati" most likely | 01:09 |
| asac | like what i have | 01:10 |
| nullack | Could I get some help on downgrading the package please. Ive edited my preferences: | 01:10 |
| nullack | nullack@PPP:/etc/apt$ cat preferences | 01:10 |
| nullack | Package: nspluginwrapper | 01:10 |
| nullack | Pin: version 0.9.91.5* | 01:10 |
| nullack | Pin-Priority: 1001 | 01:10 |
| nullack | And added deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy main restricted universe multiverse to sources.list | 01:11 |
| asac | nullack: just download the deb from launchpad | 01:11 |
| asac | and then | 01:11 |
| asac | sudo dpkg -i nsplugin*.deb | 01:12 |
| asac | ;) | 01:12 |
| nullack | Ok, so we dont pin and fiddle with preferences | 01:12 |
| asac | i wouldnt do that | 01:12 |
| nullack | roger | 01:12 |
| asac | its just for tesing ;) | 01:12 |
| asac | testing | 01:12 |
| nullack | asac Im pleased to report that fixes it | 01:22 |
| nullack | nullack@PPP:~/Desktop$ apt-cache policy nspluginwrapper | 01:22 |
| nullack | nspluginwrapper: | 01:22 |
| nullack | Installed: 0.9.91.5-2ubuntu2 | 01:22 |
| nullack | Candidate: 1.1.0-0ubuntu2 | 01:22 |
| nullack | Version table: | 01:22 |
| nullack | 1.1.0-0ubuntu2 0 | 01:22 |
| nullack | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse Packages | 01:22 |
| nullack | *** 0.9.91.5-2ubuntu2 0 | 01:22 |
| nullack | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 01:22 |
| asac | nullack: so what are your exact symptoms? | 01:23 |
| nullack | On the intrepid revision the symptoms are | 01:23 |
| nullack | 1. When browsing flash sites such as tv.com the browser starts reading the page | 01:23 |
| nullack | 2. It will then vanish | 01:23 |
| nullack | 3. Sometimes I get a segfault message into the sys log but its rare | 01:24 |
| asac | stop ;) | 01:24 |
| asac | what vanishes? the browser? | 01:24 |
| nullack | Yes, FF | 01:24 |
| nullack | If I restart FF, FF knows it crashed and presents the restore or start new session GUI | 01:24 |
| asac | ok. that sounds like you had 1.1.0-0ubuntu1 installed when you installed flashplugin-nonfree | 01:24 |
| asac | did you try to --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree when you saw those issues? | 01:25 |
| nullack | Yes, I said that on your configuration it works :) | 01:25 |
| asac | huh? | 01:25 |
| nullack | Downgrading to hardys version of the wrapper and reinstalling the non free flash works | 01:25 |
| asac | nullack: yes. thats not the question | 01:26 |
| nullack | The Intrepid revision of the wrapper does not work | 01:26 |
| asac | please upgrade to latest intrepid nspluginwrapper | 01:26 |
| asac | then --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree | 01:26 |
| nullack | right doing that now | 01:26 |
| asac | ok | 01:26 |
| asac | i fixed most painful cases in ubuntu2 ... so when you didnt --reinstall on that version you might still see the issues from ubuntu1 ... which actually had exactly your symptoms | 01:26 |
| asac | at least when it always crashes for you | 01:27 |
| nullack | Ok, youve hit the root cause there asac :) People who have been testing Intrepid for sometime did not get the reinstall of flash and ended up with an invalid config which is probably why Brian couldnt replicate | 01:29 |
| asac | true | 01:29 |
| nullack | I no longer have the always crash | 01:29 |
| asac | ok good | 01:29 |
| nullack | But, the new bug of flickeing flash is pretty bad :) | 01:29 |
| asac | well. actually i didnt trigger the --reinstall yet because i wanted to sort out issues like ubuntu1 | 01:30 |
| asac | unfortunately this kind of slow feedback has some colleteral damage ;) | 01:30 |
| asac | nullack: but that also appears to happen without nspluginwrapper on x86 | 01:30 |
| asac | so its a flash or driver issue | 01:30 |
| nullack | Im happy to work closely with you for quicker feedback - its sometimes hard to go from a bug report to knowing who to talk too, and not to feel like Im pestering the devs with my bugs | 01:31 |
| asac | nullack: please comment on the bug so others can recover their stale ;) | 01:31 |
| nullack | I can do another test usng the NV driver on te flickering thing | 01:31 |
| nullack | commenting now | 01:32 |
| asac | thx | 01:32 |
| asac | nullack: how bad is performance for you now? | 01:33 |
| nullack | Its higher than what it was. Im on an AMD Sempron single core, scrolling is the worse on sites like tv.com, conky shows 85-95% utilisation while scrolling | 01:35 |
| nullack | Sitting at the top of tv.com Im floating around 50% with no scrolling | 01:36 |
| asac | nullack: which process is taking the cycles? | 01:37 |
| asac | the firefox or the npviewer process? | 01:37 |
| nullack | Xorg takes the most, then npviewer | 01:37 |
| asac | nullack: whats the ratio? | 01:38 |
| asac | like 2:1 or more like 10:1 ? | 01:38 |
| nullack | One sec I will u/l a file showing my conky which is pretty descriptive | 01:43 |
| nullack | npviewbin just crashed, sending apport | 01:45 |
| nullack | asac : http://www.fileqube.com/shared/dGrpZBSMn93509 | 01:47 |
| nullack | asac : its a png showing my conky so you can see details | 01:47 |
| nullack | You can view it fullsize or download | 01:48 |
| nullack | asac: In the cpu utilisation history you can see the graph at around 50% which was the time I was sitting at the top of the tv.com page not scrolling | 01:51 |
| asac | nullack: as long as firefox doesnt crash its most likely just flash crashing | 01:51 |
| nullack | asac: Then you can see in the cpu graph where its maxing out/close to it where Im scrolling | 01:51 |
| nullack | The conky shows cpu top and mem top for you | 01:52 |
| asac | ok i think i made nspluginwrapper fast enough here to see the flickering ;) | 01:54 |
| asac | but i think that hack added more instability to it | 01:57 |
| asac | then it helped ;) | 01:57 |
| nullack | :) | 01:57 |
| nullack | asac : I can confirm the flickering on tv.com is there for both the NV and NVIDIA drivers | 02:04 |
| nullack | Im going back to nvidia, gdm restarting | 02:04 |
| nullack | asac : Im raising a bug on the flickering - is the correct package for it the flash plugin or the wrapper? | 02:12 |
| asac | nullack: it happens with nspluginwrapper too (according to fta) | 02:14 |
| asac | nullack: but we cannot really fix flash plugin bugs | 02:14 |
| asac | so no real need to file bug on that package | 02:14 |
| nullack | I could setup an upstream bugwatch | 02:14 |
| nullack | Ok Ill take it uo stream | 02:15 |
| asac | yeah | 02:15 |
| nullack | *up | 02:15 |
| asac | if you can really link a launchpad bug to an adobe ticket then go for it | 02:15 |
| nullack | Ok Ill create one upstream and bugwtach it here in LP | 02:15 |
| gnomefreak | im here if needed im just working on some scripts (3) for addressbook | 07:13 |
| * gnomefreak loves the new log out dialog but it would be great if it worked | 07:37 | |
| gnomefreak | asac: you mean sound in flash? | 11:07 |
| gnomefreak | that problem? | 11:07 |
| gnomefreak | blacklist snd_pcsp causes no sound if you comment it out you get system sound but no speaker sound | 11:09 |
| * gnomefreak waiting for g/f to get out of shower | 11:10 | |
| asac | gnomefreak: no ... i mean general flash issues if you are running nspluginwrapper | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | oh im not running nspluginwrapper since its not "needed" on 32bit | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | i can test it when i get home | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | if i get out of here sometime this year | 11:11 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| asac | Jazzva: fta: ok topic one of today will be "packaging a new ubufox release" ;) | 14:39 |
| asac | then i try to be innovative ... maybe writing a webbrowser with xulrunner ;) | 14:40 |
| Jazzva | asac, ouch... I forgot about that :( | 14:40 |
| Jazzva | When is it? | 14:40 |
| asac | 19 UTC | 14:40 |
| Jazzva | I won't make it... I'm presenting my project at 18:15 UTC | 14:40 |
| asac | sure ... maybe lurk ;) | 14:40 |
| asac | good luck ;) | 14:41 |
| Jazzva | Well, if I can stay at comp. center at school... I should finish by 19UTC | 14:41 |
| Jazzva | asac, thanks, I'm gonna need it. I'm scared of bugs that I didn't notice, and there is a probability there are some... | 14:41 |
| Jazzva | :) | 14:41 |
| asac | Jazzva: in class presentation nobody has problems with things not working ;) | 14:42 |
| asac | at least thats my experience | 14:42 |
| asac | what matters is that the talk absorbs them ;) | 14:42 |
| asac | crashing prototypes can even be good to get some fun into it ;) | 14:42 |
| Jazzva | Not a class presentation... I'm presenting it to teacher's assistant, and then I get points on it... usually it's either 0, or 20... nothing in between | 14:42 |
| Jazzva | :) | 14:42 |
| asac | ok. i wouldnt be too scared;) | 14:43 |
| asac | though a little tension is good to get high-performance ;) | 14:43 |
| Jazzva | Anyway... sorry for not mentioning this earlier... I was busy working on it, so I forgot about everything else | 14:43 |
| Jazzva | little? heh :) | 14:43 |
| Jazzva | good luck with the presentation... I'll try to come if I can :) | 14:44 |
| Jazzva | at least to lurk :) | 14:44 |
| asac | Jazzva: then join #ubuntu-classroom now ;) | 14:44 |
| Jazzva | now? | 14:44 |
| asac | Jazzva: well. otherwise you will forget and cannot look ;) | 14:44 |
| Jazzva | Isn't it at 19:00 utc? | 14:44 |
| asac | at least that would happen to me ;) | 14:44 |
| Jazzva | I won't be at home ... I'll be at school :) | 14:45 |
| asac | ah. thought you have your IRC running at home | 14:45 |
| Jazzva | most of the time, yes... :) | 14:45 |
| Jazzva | ah... I can read backlog then :)... easier than looking at logs on the net | 14:45 |
| Jazzva | off to finish writing the documentation for this project :) | 14:46 |
| Jazzva | have fun :) | 14:46 |
| fta2 | asac, sorry, i'm not much into this those days, I'm having a hard time at work (heavy load). I hope i could clear this up in a week or so | 15:11 |
| asac | fta2: that was just for your interest anyway ;) | 15:12 |
| asac | not like a request for help :) | 15:12 |
| fta2 | asac, i don't want to give the impression that i'm no longer interested, I am, i'm just able to contribute less than usual but it is temporary | 15:14 |
| asac | fta2: thats all fine. you are doing a lot of work | 15:14 |
| asac | even when you dont have time ;) | 15:14 |
| asac | lets hope its temporary ;) | 15:15 |
| fta2 | i take on my night hours, maybe too much, my body reminds me it needs more sleep :P | 15:17 |
| fta2 | meeting in 15 min; i need to move. cu++ | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | asac: somebody talked to you aboug bug 262693 yesterday right? | 16:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 262693 in flashplugin-nonfree "Flash not working: Intrepid, 2.6.27, FF3" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262693 | 16:10 |
| bdmurray | I was wondering if it was a duplicate of something or if we can close some other tasks on it | 16:11 |
| asac | bdmurray: looking | 16:42 |
| asac | bdmurray: adjusted stati properly | 16:44 |
| bdmurray | stati - heh | 16:45 |
| bdmurray | asac: thanks | 16:45 |
| asac | bdmurray: i changed my mail filters | 16:45 |
| asac | i wont see anything i am not subscribed to atm | 16:45 |
| asac | i will also include triaged and in progress in that mailbox | 16:45 |
| asac | but i want to ramp up step by step instead of busting my mailbox making even that approach void | 16:46 |
| asac | bdmurray: so to summon me just subscribe me to bugs | 16:46 |
| asac | this will make me appear quite instantly | 16:46 |
| bdmurray | asac: okay, thanks for letting me know | 16:46 |
| asac | oh ... assigned bugs i will see too ;) | 16:47 |
| bdmurray | By the way do you know of any tools to validate /etc/network/interface files? | 16:47 |
| asac | bdmurray: syntactically? | 16:47 |
| bdmurray | Yes | 16:47 |
| asac | bdmurray: what use case? | 16:47 |
| asac | otherwise ifupdown should complain i guess ;) | 16:47 |
| asac | we have a parser in network-manager which could be used to make a verifier out of it | 16:48 |
| bdmurray | To check the files attached to bug reports | 16:48 |
| bdmurray | Alberto wrote one for xorg.conf and I've hooked it up to python-launchpad-bugs | 16:48 |
| asac | bdmurray: i think the most frequent problems are not syntax problems, but semantical problems | 16:48 |
| asac | which are really hard to detect | 16:48 |
| bdmurray | Okay, I was trying to think of other files attached to bug reports that might benefit from a similar process | 16:50 |
| bdmurray | asac: I could query the database for all the 'interfaces' files so we could get an idea of how many have syntactic errors though | 16:51 |
| asac | bdmurray: ill think about it | 17:16 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: ok here I am, would you like to give me some pointers now ? That way I can work a bit on something this we | 21:33 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: The DistributedDevelopment project is so ambitious, its pretty mind blowing | 21:34 |
| asac | kaaloo1: agreed | 21:36 |
| asac | ill be off in a few. but to give you the pointers lets look at ... hmm ... gnash :) | 21:36 |
| asac | kaaloo1: the gnash full-source ubuntu tree is: lp:~gnash/gnash/ubuntu/ | 21:37 |
| asac | most likely the other plugins wont have a bzr tree. | 21:37 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: it doesn't work for me, I installed the gnash plugin but I don't see it | 21:37 |
| asac | but the changes are similar | 21:37 |
| asac | kaaloo1: true | 21:37 |
| asac | thats what we need to change ;) | 21:37 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: :) | 21:37 |
| asac | kaaloo1: you probably have flashplugin-nonfree installed? | 21:37 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: ok sounds cool then, yes I do | 21:38 |
| asac | kaaloo1: so the old way how plugins were managed is by using alternatives | 21:38 |
| asac | have you heard of update-alternatives? | 21:38 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: yes, I've used it to switch java implementations | 21:38 |
| asac | ok basically alternatives are links created by the admin user that are system wide | 21:39 |
| asac | for instance: | 21:39 |
| asac | all flah plugins use: | 21:39 |
| asac | /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so | 21:39 |
| asac | look add ls -l /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so | 21:39 |
| asac | it points to /etc/alternatives/xulrunner-addons-flashplugin | 21:40 |
| asac | so the alternative name is "xulrunner-addons-flashplugin" | 21:40 |
| asac | so in the old model when you wanted to use gnash instead of adobe you would do: | 21:40 |
| asac | sudo update-alternatives --config xulrunner-addons-flashplugin | 21:40 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: right | 21:40 |
| asac | the new model wants to eliminate that alternative | 21:41 |
| asac | well. actually for some reasons we want to keep it, but we want to install all plugins also in firefox-addons/plugins | 21:41 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: wow there are a bunch of bad links in my /etc/alternatives | 21:41 |
| asac | why not xulrunner-addons? because there are applications that use xulrunner that dont have ubufox | 21:41 |
| asac | and thus we want to keep the option to switch the plugin through alternatives | 21:42 |
| asac | let me check something ;) | 21:42 |
| asac | kaaloo1: did you branch the gnash branch? | 21:42 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: not yet, give me a sec | 21:43 |
| kaaloo1 | asac:ok | 21:44 |
| kaaloo1 | asac:oh wow not much in there ok, sounds like what we did for ubufox | 21:44 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: I see a post install script that calls update-alternatives for the different browsers | 21:45 |
| asac | kaaloo1: right. | 21:46 |
| asac | kaaloo1: so what we want (afaict) is to keep that | 21:46 |
| asac | as it is | 21:46 |
| asac | on top we want to add a link | 21:46 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: ok | 21:46 |
| asac | the link should point to /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions/ubufox\@ubuntu.com/plugins/ | 21:47 |
| asac | kaaloo1: so for gnash ... create a mozilla-plugin-gnash.links file | 21:47 |
| asac | (look at klash.links) | 21:47 |
| asac | kaaloo1: oh | 21:48 |
| asac | if there is no changelog entry with UNRELEASED in debian/changelog | 21:48 |
| kaaloo1 | asac:ok, didn't know it could be done that way | 21:48 |
| asac | it means that the tree is "closed" | 21:48 |
| asac | so as a first commit open it up | 21:48 |
| asac | like: | 21:48 |
| asac | dch -i -DUNRELEASED | 21:48 |
| kaaloo1 | asac:closed because of a feature freeze ? | 21:48 |
| asac | and then commit with "* open tree for packaging" or something | 21:48 |
| asac | kaaloo1: no ... because when the topmost changelog has "intrepid" or "hardy" | 21:49 |
| asac | that means that the commit you are looking at is a commit that was uploaded | 21:49 |
| asac | so good practice is to create the changelog entry like above | 21:49 |
| asac | to open the tree | 21:49 |
| kaaloo1 | asac:ok but I dos see an UNRELEASED as the first changelog entry | 21:49 |
| asac | (close doesnt really mean: closed until someone approves it to be opened) | 21:49 |
| asac | kaaloo1: which version is taht? | 21:49 |
| asac | kaaloo1: yeah right. | 21:50 |
| asac | then the tree is open | 21:50 |
| asac | and you can just add your changes to the changelog | 21:50 |
| asac | kaaloo1: usually you mark your changelog entries with: | 21:50 |
| kaaloo1 | ok I'll try it | 21:50 |
| asac | [ you name <youremail@something.tld> ] | 21:50 |
| asac | e.g. | 21:50 |
| asac | [ you name <youremail@something.tld> ] | 21:51 |
| asac | * change 1 | 21:51 |
| asac | * change 2 | 21:51 |
| asac | kaaloo1: and remember to use debcommit ... which does magic things in case you close a bug in changelog | 21:51 |
| asac | (which you probably dont do right here ;)) | 21:51 |
| asac | but anyway :) | 21:51 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: right, I followed the packaging course on you tube, and I did some work on the groovy package, I learned about LP: and Closes: | 21:53 |
| kaaloo1 | asac: Thanks a lot !! I will do that then and push it on lp so you can review it | 21:53 |
| asac | kaaloo1: rock on! | 21:55 |
| Jazzva | sort of back... RMI thing that worked here didn't woork at school... so I have to fix it by 15th september. | 22:21 |
| Jazzva | asac, how did the presentation go? :) | 22:21 |
| asac | Jazzva: quite well ;) | 22:23 |
| asac | given that i was completely underprepared at least ;) | 22:23 |
| asac | i talked again too long about mozillateam in intro | 22:23 |
| asac | so we didnt get to writing a quick xul webbrowser | 22:23 |
| Jazzva | oh, well... | 22:24 |
| Jazzva | good that it went quite well... I'm gonna look at the backlog | 22:24 |
| asac | what didnt work about RMI? | 22:24 |
| Jazzva | asac, dunno... since it worked here. so I was shocked :) | 22:25 |
| asac | any exception? | 22:25 |
| Jazzva | asac, sorry... I was a bit off for a moment | 22:25 |
| Jazzva | yeah, client-side reports it can't locate the stub class | 22:26 |
| asac | so a ClassNotFoundException? | 22:26 |
| Jazzva | mhm | 22:26 |
| Jazzva | it happened on my computer | 22:27 |
| Jazzva | i'm not sure if passing java.rmi.server.codebase to jvm helped, but it seemed to work after that | 22:27 |
| Jazzva | but that didn't work at the school | 22:27 |
| Jazzva | and the TA said that java.rmi.server.codebase shouldn't solve that, and that it should work without it, too... so, i got confused :) | 22:28 |
| asac | Jazzva: is it a classnotfoundexception or something else? | 22:28 |
| Jazzva | it's a ClassNotFoundException... | 22:28 |
| Jazzva | well, first it reports UnmarshalledException (I think), and says that it was prodused by ClassNotFoundException | 22:29 |
| asac | Jazzva: same jre version? | 22:29 |
| Jazzva | no... I have 1.6.0_07, at school it's 1.6.0 | 22:29 |
| Jazzva | but that shouldn't really matter... it only differs in subversion | 22:30 |
| asac | right | 22:30 |
| Jazzva | it also might be that I didn't know how to point to java.rmi.server.codebase at the server-side | 22:31 |
| asac | Jazzva: quite some time since i used it, but for me it was quite simple | 22:31 |
| Jazzva | (if that actually matters) | 22:31 |
| asac | and i cannot remember java.rmi.server.codebase ever being used | 22:31 |
| Jazzva | here it was file:///home/sasa/blabla/code | 22:31 |
| asac | Jazzva: what you need is to have the stub classes in a jar that is in classpath | 22:31 |
| Jazzva | lemme check that | 22:32 |
| asac | Jazzva: do you dynamically want to download the stubs? | 22:32 |
| asac | thats the only purpose i can find of that property | 22:32 |
| asac | i doubt that you want that | 22:32 |
| Jazzva | I'm not sure :) | 22:32 |
| asac | i doubt that you want that | 22:33 |
| asac | Jazzva: what you want is to use rmic to produce stubs and skels | 22:33 |
| asac | and include the stubs in the -client.jar | 22:34 |
| asac | and the skels in the -server.jar | 22:34 |
| asac | but maybe thats toooo old fashioned ;) | 22:34 |
| Jazzva | I'll play with it a bit... | 22:35 |
| Jazzva | I'll go to school these days and to try to make it work there... to see what's the problem :) | 22:35 |
| Jazzva | thanks for the suggestions :) | 22:36 |
| asac | Jazzva: my gues its a firewall issue or something | 22:36 |
| asac | most likely the download of the stub doesnt work there | 22:36 |
| asac | because your client cannot find the server | 22:36 |
| asac | are you using rmiregistry? | 22:36 |
| asac | to discover the server? | 22:37 |
| Jazzva | yep | 22:38 |
| Jazzva | well, I don't run rmiregistry, but call Registry.newRegistry() (I think that's the method) | 22:38 |
| Jazzva | but it does the same as the call of rmiregistry | 22:38 |
| asac | Jazzva: yes. rmiregistries are either contacted explicitly or they are found through network broadcast | 22:39 |
| asac | if network broadcast doesnt work it wont work | 22:39 |
| Jazzva | hmm, I would say this was explicitly. I called Registry.newRegistry() on server-side, and Registry.locateRegistry(host) on client-side | 22:40 |
| asac | ok | 22:41 |
| asac | and java.rmi.server.codebase on server side? | 22:41 |
| Jazzva | it might be the firewell... | 22:41 |
| Jazzva | *firewall | 22:41 |
| asac | Jazzva: did you try on the same host? | 22:41 |
| Jazzva | nope... but I think that at sometime TA mentioned something about the ports we're allowed to use | 22:42 |
| Jazzva | anyway, I'll sort it out somehow :) | 22:43 |
| asac | Jazzva: try on local host | 22:45 |
| Jazzva | on local host it works... | 22:45 |
| asac | and tell the TA to stop wasting your time ;) | 22:45 |
| Jazzva | lol :) | 22:45 |
| Jazzva | I also tried last night with a friend... and it worked, too | 22:46 |
| asac | ask him why this excersize is about proving him that rmi works | 22:46 |
| asac | no need to show that it works on different hosts | 22:46 |
| Jazzva | (on the internet) | 22:46 |
| asac | just painful and wastes time ;) | 22:46 |
| Lns | Wow, a chan just for Ubuntu Mozilla folk? | 22:46 |
| Lns | :) | 22:46 |
| asac | Jazzva: well. then its certainly a port issue in the network | 22:46 |
| asac | Lns: yes. people feel offended by good crack ;) | 22:47 |
| Jazzva | asac, I suppose... I'm almost sure that he said once we can use only five ports... | 22:47 |
| Lns | asac: .....ok | 22:47 |
| Jazzva | but not in this exam term... I'll have to see | 22:47 |
| * Lns runs away | 22:47 | |
| asac | Jazzva: tweak the rmi port then | 22:47 |
| asac | Jazzva: should just be a -D on both sides | 22:47 |
| Jazzva | -D? | 22:47 |
| Jazzva | I think i can just do | 22:47 |
| asac | Lns: whats up? | 22:47 |
| Jazzva | newRegistry(port) | 22:48 |
| Lns | Can anyone comment on this bug I just filed? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453704 | 22:48 |
| Jazzva | locateRegistry(host, port) :) | 22:48 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 453704 in General "Extreme slowness, "Firefox is already running" error for >3 users launching Firefox in LTSP environment" [Critical,Unconfirmed] | 22:48 |
| asac | Jazzva: well. registry is one thing | 22:48 |
| asac | Jazzva: rmi is a different thing | 22:48 |
| Jazzva | ah... right :) | 22:48 |
| asac | Jazzva: the registry is not the same transport and might hav a different port | 22:48 |
| Jazzva | right, it's logical :) | 22:48 |
| asac | well i am not 100% sure both ports just match | 22:49 |
| asac | by default | 22:49 |
| asac | but better ensure that | 22:49 |
| Jazzva | I think I'll ask the TA about that :) | 22:49 |
| Jazzva | to check for ports | 22:50 |
| Lns | asac: I've basically got the issue outlined in the bug URL.. it's horrible... I don't want to think what these people are starting to think about Linux in general..they're all new users :( | 22:50 |
| Lns | Basically trying to find as many people as possible to tell my issue to, and found this chan while searching freenode chan list..thought I'd bug you all about it too :) | 22:51 |
| asac | Lns: ill ask someone who might know something | 22:53 |
| Lns | asac: thank you so much | 22:53 |
| fta | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/update-to-google-chromes-terms-of.html | 22:53 |
| asac | yeah | 22:53 |
| asac | got that | 22:53 |
| Jazzva | fta, read it today... | 22:54 |
| asac | Lns: is everyone using a different profile? | 22:54 |
| asac | or a different user? | 22:54 |
| Lns | asac: yes, all different users | 22:54 |
| Lns | all different thin clients | 22:54 |
| asac | so every user has a distinct account? | 22:54 |
| asac | ok | 22:54 |
| Lns | asac: that is correct | 22:54 |
| asac | Lns: does ltsp meant hat all user share the same x-server? | 22:55 |
| asac | or is there one x server running per-user? | 22:55 |
| Lns | asac: there is a central LTSP server - the X "Server" (in traditional X sense) runs on each thin-client. | 22:55 |
| asac | Lns: so does the server load peek while users are trying to open ffox? | 22:57 |
| Lns | But user sessions are completely separate. I should note that this is a new issue with Firefox 3 under Hardy (Gutsy+FF2 worked fine). | 22:57 |
| Lns | asac: yes | 22:57 |
| asac | oris the server idle all the time | 22:57 |
| Lns | asac: it peaks pretty badly, and even after it's loaded on some clients, sitting idle at start.ubuntu.com, each process will take ~30-60% CPU | 22:58 |
| Lns | (on the LTSP server which runs Firefox obviously) | 22:58 |
| asac | ok. i asked our ltsp guy. maybe its just a setup thing. its the first time i hear about something like that | 22:59 |
| asac | so chances are good (i would say) | 22:59 |
| Lns | asac: ok - :) What do you mean it's a setup thing though? | 23:00 |
| asac | i wouldnt need to ask anyone if i knew that | 23:02 |
| * Lns laughs | 23:02 | |
| Lns | ok | 23:02 |
| asac | well. that guy is in the same timezone as i am so mos tlikely he will reply tomorrow. so bug me in 12 hours ... i might need more then | 23:03 |
| Lns | asac: ok.. my wife is about to go into labor in the next day or so...so is it possible you can /msg me your e-mail? | 23:04 |
| asac | unlikely that i will remember that | 23:04 |
| asac | i have too much things that slip through already. i learned that promissing such things always comes back badly | 23:05 |
| asac | just poll on me ... | 23:05 |
| asac | @time berlin | 23:05 |
| ubottu | Current time in Europe/Berlin: September 05 2008, 00:05:12 - Next meeting: MOTU in 21 hours 54 minutes | 23:05 |
| Lns | ok i'll make a point to get back to you here | 23:05 |
| asac | thats the timezone we are in (me and ltsp guy) ... so if you come earlier we will figure that out | 23:05 |
| asac | cu then | 23:05 |
| Jazzva | hmm... I always wondered... | 23:06 |
| Jazzva | @time belgrade | 23:06 |
| ubottu | Current time in Europe/Belgrade: September 05 2008, 00:06:41 - Next meeting: MOTU in 21 hours 53 minutes | 23:06 |
| Lns | ok..thx a bunch asac i appreciate it | 23:06 |
| Jazzva | ooooh :) | 23:06 |
| Lns | @time california | 23:06 |
| ubottu | Error: Unknown timezone: california - Full list: http://tinyurl.com/4vyvp8 | 23:06 |
| Lns | :p | 23:07 |
| Lns | @time pst | 23:07 |
| ubottu | Error: Unknown timezone: pst - Full list: http://tinyurl.com/4vyvp8 | 23:07 |
| asac | why would california have a time? ;) | 23:07 |
| Jazzva | @time san francisco | 23:07 |
| ubottu | Error: Unknown timezone: san francisco - Full list: http://tinyurl.com/4vyvp8 | 23:07 |
| Lns | i wish we didn't heh | 23:07 |
| Lns | time is an illusion anyway, there's no such thing | 23:07 |
| asac | @time Los_Angeles | 23:07 |
| ubottu | Current time in America/Los_Angeles: September 04 2008, 15:07:33 - Next meeting: MOTU in 21 hours 52 minutes | 23:07 |
| Lns | aahhh | 23:07 |
| asac | hah ;) | 23:07 |
| asac | so california is clearly dominated by los angeles | 23:07 |
| asac | @time mountain view | 23:08 |
| ubottu | Error: Unknown timezone: mountain view - Full list: http://tinyurl.com/4vyvp8 | 23:08 |
| Jazzva | no mountain view | 23:08 |
| asac | i guess at sometime it that will become UTC ;) | 23:08 |
| Jazzva | I checked the list... I was surprised there is no SF, nor MV... I thought they were more techie than LA | 23:08 |
| asac | Jazzva: i really think that list isnt assembles for the sake of matching techies ;) | 23:09 |
| Jazzva | well... I though SF and MV would be on the list :) | 23:09 |
| asac | SF has like 200k inhabitants ;) | 23:10 |
| asac | MV maybe 1k ;) | 23:10 |
| Jazzva | only 200k? | 23:10 |
| asac | just a guess | 23:10 |
| asac | The City and County of San Francisco is the fourth most populous city in California and the 14th most populous city in the United States, with a 2007 estimated population of 764,976 | 23:10 |
| asac | funny that the estimated number goes into the last digit for precision ;) | 23:11 |
| Jazzva | heh :) | 23:11 |
| asac | at the time of the estimation we had 764,976.7566 citizens | 23:12 |
| Jazzva | I would like to meet that 0.7566 citizen :) | 23:13 |
| * Jazzva doesn't like statistics and similar stuff too much :) | 23:13 | |
| asac | i guess half of that are childs currently being born and the rest mexican immigrants that are still vading through the desert | 23:13 |
| asac | all sum up to 2.7566 | 23:13 |
| asac | lets see if chromium finally builds here ;) | 23:18 |
| asac | interesint that chromium doesnt require any X libs | 23:20 |
| asac | http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux | 23:20 |
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