[00:00] <favro> yamatteo_fullsto: move your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak then try that one
[00:02] <yamatteo_fullsto> i'm coming soon
[00:04] <yamatteo_full> mh
[00:05] <yamatteo_full> is there a xogr configuration?
[00:16] <favro> yamatteo_full: to get back to defaults use   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[00:16] <yamatteo_full> no no
[00:17] <yamatteo_full> there is no problem
[00:17] <yamatteo_full> safe-graphics mode start in anycase
[00:17] <favro> k
[00:17] <yamatteo_full> thet command don't work
[00:18] <TheSheep> sudo displayconfig-gtk replaced it
[00:19] <favro> TheSheep: really? hmmm
[00:20] <yamatteo_full> when i run displayconfig-gtk , i try to change something an test : "Configuration test failed. Please verify the selected devices and configuration"
[00:20] <yamatteo_full> with ANY possible setting
[00:46] <yamatteo_full> ok
[00:46] <yamatteo_full> don't worry about
[00:46] <yamatteo_full> i think i'll give up
[00:53] <nubuntu> guys i am trying to replace a gif file within my magento config.  the new gif is on the desktop, and i have to get it to: var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/________
[00:57] <TheSheep> nubuntu: gksu thunar
[01:02] <Sir_Lewk_> I can't get spell check working in abiword or openoffice, does anyone else have this issue?
[01:05] <TheSheep> Sir_Lewk: any details?
[01:05] <TheSheep> Sir_Lewk: do you have the language packs installed?
[01:05] <hfmls> hi
[01:05] <hfmls> intsalled xubuntu in an old pc
[01:05] <hfmls> boot takes too long..like 8 minutes. :S pentium III 128 ram.
[01:05] <Sir_Lewk> yes, they appear to be installed, I don't have access to the machine at this moment
[01:05] <hfmls> and can u guys help me to use vesa driver please?
[01:06] <Sir_Lewk> I'll get back when my brother finishes up his homework on it
[01:06] <hfmls> any1
[01:08] <Sir_Lewk> I think it should default to vesa if nothing else works
[01:09] <hfmls> it works
[01:09] <hfmls> but with some crazy resolution and pixels
[01:09] <hfmls> how can i go to vesa?
[01:15] <Sir_Lewk> vesa will often not give you native resolutions
[01:16] <hfmls> that's ok
[01:16] <hfmls> all i want is to see clearly
[01:16] <hfmls> lol
[01:18] <Sir_Lewk> what sort of graphics card do you have?
[01:18] <Sir_Lewk> there is probably a better driver than vesa I'd think
[01:18] <hfmls> that's ok
[01:18] <hfmls> i dont play games
[01:19] <hfmls> this is only to see mails
[01:19] <hfmls> it's a pentium III700 128 ram
[01:19] <hfmls> with a shitty graphics card
[01:19] <hfmls> with the current settings colors are ok but image is kinda trimbled
[01:19] <hfmls> with vesa used to work ok but i formated it
[01:20] <hfmls> how can i see if it is using vesa?
[01:20] <hfmls> or how can i make it use vesa?
[01:21] <Sir_Lewk> I'm not entirely sure, haven't actually used ubuntu myself for a while ;)
[01:21] <Sir_Lewk> try checking what /etc/X11/xorg.conf says
[01:21] <Sir_Lewk> /var/log/Xorg.0.log may contain useful info as well
[01:23] <favro> hfmls: try   sudo displayconfig-gtk   in a terminal
[01:24] <hfmls> ok
[01:24] <hfmls> and then
[01:24] <favro> hfmls: it should let you choose vesa as a driver afaik
[01:25] <hfmls> it shows to choose resolution and kind of monitor
[01:27] <ethana2> I have Ubuntu 8.04.1 with gnome and xfce installed..  is there any way I can use xfce panel applets in gnome?
[01:27] <ethana2> rather, in gnome-panel
[01:29] <favro> hfmls: then   gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and add   Driver  "vesa"   to the device section
[01:34] <JuanTelez> hi all? What is the name to run Terminal?
[01:34] <JuanTelez> the path to the bin
[01:34] <Odd-rationale> terminal
[01:34] <Odd-rationale>  /usr/bin/terminal
[01:34] <JuanTelez> Odd-rationale: thanks
[01:35] <hfmls> brb
[01:35] <JuanTelez> I was trying to run it from ALT+F2 but I'cant
[01:35] <JuanTelez> but now I mark the option run in a terminal, and it works haha
[01:36] <JuanTelez> other n00b question
[01:36] <JuanTelez> I can't get rid of the Oreange calendar at start up
[01:36] <JuanTelez> how can't I uninstall it?
[01:36] <Odd-rationale> JuanTelez: do you have the orage plugin on your panel?
[01:37] <JuanTelez> no
[01:37] <Odd-rationale> JuanTelez: checked autostarted applications?
[01:37] <JuanTelez> Odd-rationale: yeap
[01:38] <JuanTelez> and, Terminal doesn't open completly, if I make ALT+F2
[01:38] <JuanTelez> it opens the program but i get no promt
[01:41] <Odd-rationale> i gtg eat... bbl
[01:46] <JuanTelez> c ya Odd-rationale and thank!
[01:46] <JuanTelez> *thanks
[01:57] <jdwpom> Morning all - anybody want to answer an easy one?
[02:07] <favro> jdwpom: I guess no-one will speak up 'till they know what you're calling easy...
[02:08] <jdwpom> A good point.
[02:08] <jdwpom> I'm curious as to what happens when you try doing things like installing new hardware - specifically a graphics carf
[02:08] <jdwpom> *card
[02:09] <jdwpom> Being an ex-windows user, what I *want* to hear is 'you plug it in, linux'll detect it, find drivers, install them and make your day without anything complicated needed.  What I'm expecting is something involving the phrase 'recompile your kernel' which scares me.
[02:09] <favro> jdwpom: X is supposed to automatically configure for the card in hardy so a new card "should" be a non issue
[02:10] <jdwpom> Do weird things happen involving removal of old, unused drivers at all, or can I stop being paranoid that I'm about to break my system...
[02:12] <favro> jdwpom: worse case is you'll have 640x480 resolution or it want start the graphics and will need to edit xorg.conf
[02:12] <jdwpom> *eyetwitch*
[02:12] <favro> hehe
[02:12] <jdwpom> What can I say, editing system files still scares em
[02:12] <jdwpom> *me
[02:13] <favro> jdwpom: you have to be accurate doing that - computers are dumb
[02:14] <jdwpom> Then the next question is, after inserting said graphics card (I don't even know what it is/if it'll be better or worse than what I've already got.  Spare parts make experimentation fun) and finding it to be worthless (a very real possibility) will unplugging and rebooting dig up the old drivers again?
[02:14] <jdwpom> (Obviously, most of this isn't happening while the power isn't on.)
[02:15] <favro> jdwpom: again it "should" ...
[02:15] <favro> some are lucky some not
[02:16] <jdwpom> Well, to paraphrase, are drivers handled in the same way on an installed system as they are during the install?  (In other words, if I'm using a driver that the installation found, will it find it again)
[02:20] <favro> jdwpom: again it "should" ... it is new and still needs work imho
[02:20] <jdwpom> Okie doke.  I'll do some backing up and see what ahppens.
[02:20] <jdwpom> Thanks a bundle :D
[02:21] <favro> sorry I couldn't be more positive about it...
[03:10] <Genelyk> midori  browser  version 0.0.18  ,
[03:10] <Genelyk> in web is 0.0.21 T_T
[04:44] <nubuntu> guys i am trying to replace a gif file within my magento config.  the new gif is on the desktop, and i have to get it to: var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/________
[05:03] <nubuntu> could someone please help me get a .gif file moved from my desktop to an image file?
[05:04] <rcscomp> nubuntu: ??
[05:04] <rcscomp> a gif is an image file
[05:04] <Odd-rationale> nubuntu: you could use the cp command: cp ~/Desktop/image.gif /path/to/destination
[05:04] <Odd-rationale> if you need root priviledges, add sudo...
[05:07] <nubuntu> Odd-rationale: today someone had given me this command that *din't* work:  cp image.gif var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif  where logo.gif is the file i want to replace
[05:07] <Rakeer> sudo cp
[05:07] <Odd-rationale> and forgot the / infront of var
[05:08] <Rakeer> indeed.
[05:08] <Odd-rationale> /var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif
[05:09] <nubuntu> i wonder if i tried that today ... lemme try it now
[05:18] <nubuntu> Odd-rationale: and Rakeer , i think *maybe* i got it,, gotta figure out how to get back to the frontend to see if its rendering ... thanks
[05:31] <nubuntu> Odd-rationale: i haven't gotten to a frontend view yet, but i looked in the filesys and the new logo is there ... with the same 'old' name of logo.gif, which is fine, although i thought i was renaming it with the command you gave me.  anyways, that was a breakthrough for me, thanks again :)
[05:31] <nubuntu> breakthrough meaning my first 'cp'
[05:50] <JinKazama> hi all
[05:53] <JinKazama> how to delete files and folders from external HD . they are from Windows and now gives me that error :
[05:53] <JinKazama> rm: cannot remove `adr.WAB': Read-only file system
[05:54] <wols> JinKazama: what filesystem driver?
[05:54] <wols> if it's ntfs, you cannot write or delete on that partition at all
[05:54] <wols> use ntfs3g instead if you want write access
[05:56] <wols> ntfs3g > JinKazama
[06:03] <JinKazama> I knant find ﻿ntfs3g here ...
[06:03] <JinKazama> what is this ? :/
[06:16] <JinKazama> I cannot resolve this problem. please some help :)
[06:21] <JinKazama> wols: shall I have write access  if I make format this drive in FAT32 file system ?
[06:40] <hacked```> guys
[06:40] <hacked```> im running xubuntu live cd
[06:40] <hacked```> but the thing is, how can i see my windows fs ?
[06:40] <hacked```> (fat32 and ntfs for example)
[06:55] <listdata> hacked: try sudo fdisk -l
[06:55] <listdata> and also sudo blkid
[07:10] <JinKazama> how to get the file system format to my externel hard drive ?
[07:19] <favro> !ntfs-3g | JinKazama
[07:45] <claw> hello guys a friend of mine has bashed hist tasklist on desktop
[07:45] <claw> no menu or anything
[07:45] <claw> how i can fix that ?
[07:49] <claw> done
[07:49] <claw> runed xfce4-panel
[08:15] <s0edh3> why does thunar freeze time to time?
[08:16] <claw> try to reinstall it
[08:17] <s0edh3> o_O
[10:36] <Markopotamus> How do you run a program that's installed but not listed in the Applications menu?
[10:42] <favro> Markopotamus: I start with    which "program"   in a terminal or type the path to it
[10:45] <Markopotamus> ah I see
[10:46] <Markopotamus> favro: perhaps what I really need is to start at square 1 with a newbies guide to terminal commands, the ubuntu file directory structure, etc... I have a feeling I'm just asking lots of dumb questions because I dont know what's going on.
[10:48] <Markopotamus> favro: I didnt manage to get samba working last night :(
[10:49] <favro> Markopotamus: I've never used it - what is giving you grief?
[10:50] <favro> !samba
[10:51] <favro> Markopotamus: what was the program that didn't add an entry to the applications menu?
[10:53] <Markopotamus> well it's probably just me being dumb, not knowing the right commands, but there was one bitwhere I had to edit a file using sudo, but just couldnt get it to open
[10:54] <Markopotamus> favro: I thought I had a few other media programmes installed but they weren't listed. Now I'm wondering if they're actually just packages which are part of the installed applications I *can* see. Can't check now, this lil laptop doesnt like multitasking too much
[10:54] <favro> Markopotamus: in linux case is important x11 is different to X11 as an example
[10:54] <favro> k
[10:55] <Markopotamus> favro: yes, I remember that ;)
[10:55] <favro> Markopotamus: most apps end up in /usr/bin - if you think you have something looking in there is a good start
[10:56] <Markopotamus> right
[10:57] <Markopotamus> favro: right now samba is the thing I wanna get working
[10:57] <favro> Markopotamus: what's holding you up?
[10:59] <Markopotamus> favro: ok, well Im looking at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently " Mounting unprotected "guest" network folders"
[10:59] <Markopotamus> favro: I've created my folder...
[10:59] <Markopotamus> favro: but I cant seem to edit the /etc/fstab file
[11:00] <favro> Markopotamus: does   gksu mousepad /etc/fstab   in a terminal not let you?
[11:01] <Markopotamus> favro: It does! See, I just didn't know to do that ;)
[11:02] <favro> Markopotamus: ok :)
[11:02] <favro> !sudo | Markopotamus
[11:03] <Markopotamus> favro: thanks
[11:03] <favro> np
[11:03] <Markopotamus> favro: Incidentally, I keep getting an error saying "sudo: unable to resolve host <computer name>"
[11:04] <Markopotamus> erm... by <computer name> I think I mean the name for the root account, or the first name that was asked for on instalation
[11:06] <favro> !hostname | Markopotamus
[11:08] <Markopotamus> ah ok
[11:08] <Markopotamus> so it's likely that they don't currently match?
[11:09] <Markopotamus> favro: so - sudo mousepad /etc/hostname or gksu mousepad /etc/hostname ?
[11:09] <favro> Markopotamus: yep - check the two files then set it in terminal
[11:10] <favro> Markopotamus: I would just browse to them first
[11:10] <favro> see that both are the same
[11:10] <Markopotamus> hmm. well they're not
[11:11] <favro> Markopotamus: then gksu mousepad /etc/hostname
[11:12] <favro> Markopotamus: make it the same as /etc/hosts and set in terminal
[11:12] <Markopotamus> favro: what do you mean "set it in termnal" ?
[11:13] <favro> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname
[11:13] <Markopotamus> aaah
[11:13] <favro> :)
[11:16] <Markopotamus> favro: so what I've got in /etc/hosts is 127.0.0.1 localhost  127.0.1.1 <host name>.<something>
[11:17] <Markopotamus> favro: is it ok to just makesure <host name> matches what's in /etc/hostname ?
[11:17] <favro> Markopotamus: there's other stuff that uses /etc/hosts - best to change /etc/hostname imo
[11:18] <Markopotamus> right
[11:19] <Markopotamus> so.. erm. Right. For the hostname thingy, in a terminal I'm typing "sudo hostname <a hostname>" or what?
[11:19] <Markopotamus> or litterally just "hostname <a hostname>" ?
[11:20] <Markopotamus> ( favro: )
[11:20] <favro> Markopotamus: so /etc/hostname will have as it's only entry  <hostname> from 127.0.1.1 <host name>.<something>
[11:21] <favro> I've got no idea what <something> could be...
[11:21] <Markopotamus> favro: it should be there though, right?
[11:22] <favro> Markopotamus: I've got no <something> in my /etc/hosts
[11:22] <Markopotamus> favro: right now /etc/hostname has as its only entry <hostname>
[11:22] <Markopotamus> and that's it
[11:23] <favro> Markopotamus: type   hostname   in a terminal
[11:23] <favro> Markopotamus: is it the same as in /etc/hosts?
 is the same, yes, but in hosts it has .<something> on the end
[11:24] <favro> and what does the terminal output say?
[11:24] <Markopotamus> favro: just says the hostname
[11:25] <Markopotamus> favro: (the right one)
[11:25] <favro> Markopotamus: you shouldn't have the sudo error now
[11:25] <Markopotamus> ah groovy
[11:26] <Markopotamus> favro: argh, no, it's still there
[11:26] <favro> Markopotamus: so with /etc/fstab edited does the samba bit work?
[11:26] <favro> k
[11:27] <favro> Markopotamus: can you copy/paste the one line in /etc/hosts with the <something> in it?
[11:28] <Markopotamus> k
[11:29] <Markopotamus> it's safe to past that info, right?
[11:29] <Markopotamus> *paste
[11:29] <favro> one line yes
[11:29] <Markopotamus> 127.0.1.1 criter.Ady
[11:31] <favro> Markopotamus: so that is hostname.domain then? - that's the <something> .Ady?
[11:31] <Markopotamus> yes, I think so
[11:32] <favro> I'd remove the .Ady if it isn't part of your hostname and try again
[11:33] <Markopotamus> ooooh I know something I've done wrong
[11:33] <Markopotamus> I got this line wrong in fstab //servername/sharename  /media/mountname  cifs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[11:34] <favro> 0.o
[11:37]  * Markopotamus removes .Ady
[11:39] <Markopotamus> favro: *ouch*  warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[11:39] <Markopotamus> mount error: could not find target server. TCP name Panglos/share not found
[11:39] <Markopotamus> No ip address specified and hostname not found
[11:41] <favro> Markopotamus: sounds like you have to name the windows comp in /etc/hosts - I'll have a quick google
[11:43] <Markopotamus> ah, I just did something to my windows PC to make sure the dirrectory matched and now I have a new error
[11:43] <Markopotamus> but it still says  warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[11:44] <favro> Markopotamus: gksu mousepad /etc/fstab   go to the end of the last line - hit enter - save and close
[11:47] <Markopotamus> favro: where'd I be without you :\
[11:47] <favro> hehe :)
[11:47] <Markopotamus> favro: Right! so... now the error is Permision denied. Hmm.
[11:48] <Markopotamus> the folder I made to root, can't do anything with it.
[11:48] <favro> with mount -a?
[11:48] <Markopotamus> yeah
[11:49] <Markopotamus> what's the path to something on the desktop? /home/username/desktop/folder ?
[11:49] <favro> sudo chown -Rv Markopotamus:Markopotamus /path/to/mountpoint
[11:49] <favro> ~/Desktop
[11:51] <Markopotamus> aaah
[11:57] <Markopotamus> hrm. Still permission deinied
[11:59] <wols> Markopotamus: what are you mounting exactly?
[11:59] <Markopotamus> wols: just a folder. I want this Xubuntu laptop to talk to  my Windows XP PC
[12:14]  * Markopotamus has to go but will be back
[12:14] <Markopotamus> cheers for the help again, favro
[13:55] <Markopotamus> What'd be the best way to get the java working in Hardy Heron?
[13:55] <cody-somerville> Markopotamus, how is it not working?
[13:56] <Markopotamus> cody-somerville: I can't run a jnlp file
[13:56]  * Markopotamus is looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java right now
[13:57] <cody-somerville> Try install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:57] <cody-somerville> *installing
[13:58] <Markopotamus> Oo, is that accessible through Add/Remove applications?
[13:58] <Markopotamus> Yes, I see it is
[14:00] <jimmy_birer> hey1 someone can give me alternate cd adress?(link of iso)
[14:03] <cody-somerville> jimmy_birer, for what release?
[14:03] <cody-somerville> Markopotamus, :)
[14:03] <jimmy_birer> 8.04
[14:03] <cody-somerville> http://xubuntu.org/get
[14:03] <jimmy_birer> noooooooo
[14:04] <jimmy_birer> i want the link of iso
[14:04] <jimmy_birer> not html page!
[14:04] <jimmy_birer> because puppy crashes
[14:05] <cody-somerville> Is that the same guy that was trolling here yesterday?
[14:06] <Markopotamus> cody-somerville: Yeh.
[14:06] <Markopotamus> ﻿sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre \o/ It works.
[14:23] <Markopotamus> !samba
[14:26] <Woo> Is it possible to set up raid 0 for my two hard drives here just as easy as I can in Windows?
[14:27] <march> hi
[14:30] <favro> mark!raid | Woo
[14:30] <favro> oops
[14:30] <favro> !!raid | Woo
[14:30]  * cody-somerville notes that he needs folks to test Alpha 4 candidate and report to iso testing tracker! :-)
[14:32] <Woo> Right, so there is no simple wizard I can run to make it?
[15:14] <Ben_Cs> hello
[15:15] <Ben_Cs> how can i clean my system of loose packages that are not used, because of uninstalled software?
[15:15] <vidd> Ben_Cs, sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[15:16] <vidd> the --purge gets rid of config files too
[15:16] <Ben_Cs> vidd: is it the same as autoremovable in synaptic? cause in synaptic it lists packages that are autoremovable but i seem to use them.
[15:18] <Ben_Cs> well, i tr, thanks
[15:21] <Woo> Can I set up two disks to the same mount point so I can combine their storage?
[15:21] <vidd> Ben_Cs, i dont use synaptic....so i cant answer that'
[15:22] <pleia2> Woo: no, it doesn't work like that
[15:22] <pleia2> Woo: look into LVM
[15:22] <Woo> lvm?
[15:23] <favro> !lvm
[15:23] <pleia2> or do a google search for "combine disks lvm" or somesuch
[15:23] <pleia2> there are lots of instructions out there
[15:23] <Woo> i am a newbie
[15:24] <pleia2> combining disks is not a simple task, it takes a bit of work
[15:24] <cody-somerville> NOTICE: IF you'd like to help the Xubuntu developer team, please feel free to help test the candidate images for the upcoming Intrepid Alpha 4. Everything you need to do so can be found at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/xubuntu/all :-)
[15:24] <Woo> i just want a a raid 0
[15:24] <Woo> what is the easiest way i can do it with minimum reading?
[15:24] <Ben_Cs> vidd: if i continue using this cleanup method, will my xubuntu stay clean and not need reinstall? (i.e. windows needs clean reinstall every some time)
[15:26] <cody-somerville> Woo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[15:27] <vidd> Ben_Cs, that should be fairely accurate\
[15:27] <Woo> i don't want to boot with it
[15:27] <vidd> i cannot guarentee you will never need a reinstall....but not nearly as often
[15:28] <Woo> i just want my two new hard drives to list as one
[15:30] <Woo> that guide covers booting and installing
[15:31] <pleia2> Woo: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/04/27/managing-disk-space-with-lvm.html?page=2 might be helpful, but as I already said - this isn't a simple thing, it's going to take some work
[15:32] <Woo> ok then i suggest "you" work on making it simpler
[15:32] <Woo> in windows it's just a few clicks
[15:33] <The-Kernel> Woo, in windows its inefficient and prone to failure.
[15:34] <Woo> In Windows it just worked.
[15:34] <The-Kernel> The only time I have ever seen a windows RAID is when it has failed
[15:35] <Woo> Then you lack experience.
[15:35] <Woo> Me or my friends have never had any problems with it.
[15:35] <Woo> As end users.
[15:35] <cody-somerville> Woo, Maybe you could work on improving the raid experience on Linux if you're interested in it :-)
[15:36] <cody-somerville> Woo, You have to remember that the folks here are all end users as well and if they don't use raid themselves it might be difficult to do that work you're requesting of them.
[15:36] <Woo> Lol, I can't program anything without knowing how this all works in the first place :P
[15:39] <jdwpom> *Newbie Talking* Isn;t this an lvm issue?*
[15:40] <jdwpom> *Newbie talking* forget I spoje, after more reading
[15:40] <jdwpom> *spke
[15:40] <jdwpom> *kinda runk*
[15:40] <jdwpom> *drunkk
[15:40] <jdwpom> *fuckit
[15:41] <The-Kernel> Uh...ok!
[15:41] <stevenw> WIN!
[15:42] <cody-somerville> :/
[15:42] <stevenw> cody does not approve...
[15:42] <stevenw> hey cody now that you're on...
[15:43]  * cody-somerville runs.
[15:43] <stevenw> i put xub on my friend's laptop
[15:43] <cody-somerville> :-)
[15:43] <cody-somerville> woot
[15:43] <stevenw> LOL
[15:43] <stevenw> the screen blanks every couple of minutes
[15:43] <stevenw> about 5-10 if i don't move the mouse
[15:43] <cody-somerville> I think thats called the screensaver ;p
[15:43] <stevenw> no screensavers, not locking screen when computer is idle
[15:43] <cody-somerville> Right
[15:43] <cody-somerville> It is just the screen blacking out
[15:44] <cody-somerville> Look in power settings
[15:44] <stevenw> when i wiggle mouse, cursor appears
[15:44] <stevenw> but it will not show X
[15:44]  * cody-somerville needs people with amd64 computers to help test Intrepid Alpha 4 : - )
[15:44] <stevenw> if i alt-ctrl-F(number) then back to F7 it works
[15:44] <cody-somerville> weird
[15:44] <cody-somerville> Sounds like an X bug to me.
[15:45] <The-Kernel> cody-somerville I'll do it :P
[15:45] <cody-somerville> :D
[15:45] <The-Kernel> I just lost my job so....
[15:45] <The-Kernel> why not!
[15:45] <cody-somerville> : O
[15:45] <stevenw> okay it's just a bug i guess
[15:46] <stevenw> it's just frustrating
[15:47] <cody-somerville> I imagine.
[15:47] <cody-somerville> Can you pastebin your Xorg.0.log?
[15:47] <cody-somerville> Also dmesg | tail
[15:47] <stevenw> okay
[15:49] <stevenw> where is Xorg.0.log?
[15:49] <stevenw> i am pastebinning dmesg
[15:50] <cody-somerville>  /srv/log/
[15:50] <cody-somerville> erm
[15:50] <cody-somerville>  /var/log
[15:50] <stevenw> okay
[15:50] <stevenw> no installed viewer capable of displaying....
[15:51] <stevenw> nevermind LOL
[15:55] <stevenw> pastebin.com/m4485ad7f
[15:56] <stevenw> is that it?
[15:57] <cody-somerville> tail messages
[15:58] <stevenw> not at bottom?
[15:59] <cody-somerville> hmm?
[16:00] <stevenw> dmesg | tail is at line 736 i think
[16:00] <cody-somerville> yes
[16:00] <cody-somerville> can you tail /var/log/messages
[16:00] <stevenw> okay..
[16:00] <cody-somerville> :]
[16:01] <stevenw> err exactly how to do that {n00b}
[16:01] <stevenw> LOL trying to put xub on other people's comps and it's the little things that are a challenge LMAO
[16:02] <cody-somerville> type: tail /var/log/messages
[16:02] <stevenw> k
[16:04] <stevenw> okay pastebin.com/m7a01eeee
[16:04] <Woo> is there any easy to configure ftp server (like filezilla) you recomend?
[16:05] <vidd> Woo, proftpd is simple enough
[16:05] <vidd> IMO
[16:05] <The-Kernel> yeah it is
[16:06] <vidd> Woo, the only configuration i did was to lock users into their home directories (remove on #)
[16:06] <vidd> *one
[16:07] <cody-somerville> stevenw, I guess you'll need to speak with someone from the X team.
[16:07] <cody-somerville> stevenw, I don't see anything suspicious.
[16:07] <stevenw> really?
[16:07] <stevenw> that's so weird LOL
[16:15] <Woo> I followed this guide. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux
[16:15] <Woo> hjemmeserver@hjemmeserver:~$ sudo mount -a
[16:15] <Woo> sudo: unable to resolve host hjemmeserver
[16:15] <Woo> mount: unknown filesystem type ''
[16:15] <Woo> hjemmeserver@hjemmeserver:~$
[16:15] <Woo> What is wrong?
[16:16] <cody-somerville> Woo, please pastebin /etc/hosts
[16:18] <Rakeer> http://www.xubuntu.com/news/hardy/ports
[16:18] <Rakeer> Should I chaneg EVERY entry in my sources file to reflect that address?
[16:18] <cody-somerville> I think the instructions are pretty clear :-]
[16:18] <Rakeer> the article has some typos I think...not sure...
[16:18] <Woo> What should I type in the terminal for that, cody?
[16:19] <cody-somerville> Woo, cat /etc/hosts
[16:19] <Woo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/43369/
[16:22] <Rakeer> im confused...do i just switch ever us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ with ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/?
[16:23] <Rakeer> will a find/replace be adequate?
[16:23] <cody-somerville> yup
[16:24] <cody-somerville> you'll also want to upgrade to hardy, I believe
[16:24] <Myrtti> cody-somerville: cat /etc/hosts
[16:24] <Myrtti> äh
[16:24] <Myrtti> Woo: cat /etc/hosts
[16:24] <Myrtti> >-|
[16:25] <Woo> nevermind i just did /mount /dev/sdb1 and so
[16:25] <Rakeer> cody-somerville: I'm on 7.10 hardy already...using psXubuntu
[16:25] <Rakeer> ;P
[16:25] <cody-somerville> 8.04 is hardy
[16:26] <Rakeer> don't want to upgrade but it does seem some of my stuff in repos im getting is outdated...
[16:26] <Rakeer> er..
[16:26] <Rakeer> whats the kernel version?
[16:26] <Myrtti> lsb_release -a
[16:26] <Odd-rationale> uname -a
[16:27] <Rakeer> ah ok 7.04 feisty
[16:27] <Rakeer> my uname -a is
[16:27] <Rakeer> Linux PS3 2.6.24 #1 SMP Thu Jan 31 16:25:19 JST 2008 ppc64 GNU/Linux
[16:29] <Rakeer> will it cause me problems to change the sources on my kernel?
[16:29] <Woo> hmm this is ackward
[16:29] <Woo> i marked text in the terminal, started typing
[16:29] <Woo> and it didn't replace the marked text
[16:29] <vidd> Woo, that is correct
[16:30] <vidd> the terminal is not a text editor
[16:30] <vidd> highlighting will allow you to copy, but not replace
[16:31] <Woo> why does it not recognize ctrl v? that's irritating
[16:31] <vidd> it is ctrl+alt+v
[16:32] <Woo> why the alt, isn't ctrl + v faster?
[16:32] <vidd> you can also go into the settings to change that default behavour
[16:32] <stevethefiddle> By default it's Ctrl+Alt+V but you can change it
[16:32] <vidd> Woo, how do you figure its faster?
[16:32] <vidd> its still on set of keys
[16:33] <Woo> hmm, nevermind it's not worth talking about. :)
[16:34] <Odd-rationale> also, shift+insert
[16:34] <Woo> i can't seem to mount my disk. i have double checked the file system (ext3) is at /dev/sdc1.
[16:34] <stevethefiddle> Anyone use WINE?
[16:34] <Odd-rationale> Woo: what command did you try?
[16:34] <Woo> in fstab it is called this /dev/sdc1 /home/hjemmeserver/seed-disk2
[16:34] <Woo>  /mount/dev/sdc1
[16:35] <Woo> mount*
[16:36] <Woo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/43377/
[16:38] <Woo> When I browse to the folder I see fee space 35gb, no lost+found folder. It's suppose to be 1gb free there
[16:38] <Rakeer> Myrtti: Any idea if security addresses get some kind of update?
[16:39] <Rakeer> I get a lot of these strings: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/feisty/main/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[16:39] <Woo> Maybe if I try a reboot...
[16:39] <Myrtti> http://security.ubuntu.com is certainly a valid address
[16:41] <Rakeer> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/43379/  thats my sources.list after I updated...everyhting look ok?
[16:42] <Rakeer> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/43381/   heres what my terminal output after I ran sudo apt-get update
[16:45] <cody-somerville> Right
[16:45] <cody-somerville> You *have* to upgrade to Hardy if you want further updates.
[16:45] <stevethefiddle> Using WINE: "Browse C:\ Drive" throws up error "Failed to open URL "~/.wine/drive_c". The URL "~/.wine/drive_c" is not supported. Anyone else have this problem, or know how to fix it?
[16:58] <vidd> Woo, I believe the reason you are seeing more space is becuase you are mounting it inside your home directory....it may be including the free space in your /home partition as well
[16:59] <vidd> Woo, maybe you should set fstab to mount the partition as /seed-disk2
[17:08] <Woo> vidd: /home/hjemmeserver/sed-disk has no problems
[17:11] <Woo> God.. Can someone kill the idiots that runs mopeds without mufflers? =/
[17:20] <ozkugh> lol
[17:28] <Woo> does anyone want a tux here?
[17:28] <Woo> i have two stuffed toys
[17:29] <cody-somerville> Woo, please see #xubuntu-offtopic for idle chit-chat :-)
[17:29] <Woo> ok. do you have any idea why my disk won't mount?
[17:32] <cody-somerville> Whats the output of sudo lshw?
[17:35] <Woo> how do i mark all?
[17:35] <Woo> it doesn't respond to ctrl a
[17:37] <Woo> http://pastebin.com/d17673930
[17:38] <nubuntu> i have too many pics and files i save temporarily to the desktop, and i noticed that if i try to save a new screenshot or anything to it, the grid doesn't readjust and make room for it.  where does it go?  also, how do i make each of the four desktops separate?  so that what is on one does not persist to the others?  i remeber seeing a button for that *somewhere* but i can't find it now.
[17:40] <vidd> nubuntu, the desktop will not show items that dont "fit"....but they will still be there in the ~/Desktop folder
[17:40]  * cody-somerville is off to a dentist appointment.
[17:40] <vidd> My recomendation is to configure your system to download to someplace other than the desktop
[17:40] <nubuntu> ahhhhh, ok.  what about the control for the other three desktops?
[17:41] <vidd> ive never played around with that
[17:42] <vidd> By the way....if you remove items from the desktop, the item that did not fit before will not "auto-arrange" for you
[17:42] <nubuntu> ya, i noticed that too
[17:43] <nubuntu> i wish i could remember where that setting for the desktops is
[17:43] <vidd> you can either edit, or remove ~/.icon.screen0.rc to re-arrange
[17:44] <vidd> the path is ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/icon.screen0.rc
[17:45] <vidd> try setting up a icon.screen1.rc etc to see if that will make a difference
[18:16] <zOap> is there a program for creating xfce themes?
[18:36] <Markopotamus> Can anyone help me get samba working, so I can share files between this xubuntu laptop and my Windows XP PC?
[18:39] <Markopotamus> ﻿Every time I open the Shared Folders menu it says "Sharing Services are not installed - you need to instal at least either Samba or NFS in order to share your folders" Then there are two tick boxes to instal NFS and SMB. I click Install services but that same warning screen keeps coming back. This is wierd because Im pretty sure I did install Samba
[18:40] <Woo> try rebooting
[18:40] <Woo> it's not a standard answer in this case btw, sometimes it helps for this
[18:43] <Markopotamus> but then what? It did this before the last time I rebooted :s
[18:43] <Markopotamus> Woo: me are confuse
[18:44] <hajhouse> i'm having poor performance with with firefox 3 on xubunty hardy. after some time browsing, the firefox process starts using 100% cpu and seems to freeze (window stops updating); it doesn't become usable again even after many minutes.
[19:04]  * Markopotamus nudges favro in an emploring manner
[19:06] <Woo> Markopotamus: It sucks, I know.
[19:06] <Woo> I was quite annoyed about this when I set up my box.
[19:07] <Woo> I had a similar thing.
[19:07] <Markopotamus> Woo: Hehe, cheers for feeling my pain.
[19:08] <Markopotamus> Woo: Mind you, part of my pain is just straight forward newbie embarasment at not knowing more than I do about what I'm doing.
[19:08] <Woo> I'm a newbie as well
[19:09] <Woo> right now it won't let me have more than one connection to the box. this means if i have one transfer running, i can't even mark something when browsing it in windows explorer without the transfer stopping.
[19:09] <Markopotamus> Wow. That's frustrating.
[19:10] <Woo> also when i stream stuff from it it stops streaming after 2-3 secs sometimes, i have to stop the video and try again. usually it works after 1-2 times
[19:11] <vidd> just out of curiosity....who much ram y'all got?
[19:11] <Woo> on what computer?
[19:12] <vidd> the one with the firefox memory issue'
[19:12] <Woo> we don't all (y'all) have it, do we?
[19:14] <Markopotamus> On this one? 192 MB. On my other one, 2gb
[19:14] <vidd> does the 2gb one have the same issue>?
[19:14] <Markopotamus> WHOOPS
[19:15] <Markopotamus> sorry. Erm. GLEE! It works. They're now talking.
[19:15] <Markopotamus> I'm looking at the contents of a shared dirrectory on my other computer in a terminal window. Huzzar.
[19:27]  * Markopotamus can smell victory! It's nearly working.
[19:27] <Woo> Linux: It just works, eh? :P
[19:29] <Markopotamus> woo: well, don't want to speak toooo soon ;)
[19:34] <Markopotamus> Oh HAIL YUS. WORKAGE. EL VICTOIRE!
[19:34] <Markopotamus> Thankyou for putting up with me, all
[19:35] <Woo> what did you do?
[19:35] <Markopotamus> Heh. Went into the package manager and installed everything I could see relating to Samba
[19:35] <Woo> ^^
[19:36] <Markopotamus> then went back to the Shared Folders dir and made a new folder. Which worked without complaint this time. Then had a look in a terminal using smbclient and suddenly I could see stuff on my Windows PC
[19:36] <Markopotamus> Ran over to the Windows PC and presto, it can see my shared folder :)
[19:55] <hajhouse> vidd: if you were referring to me, it's not a memory issue with firefox. much ram remains free while cpu usage goes to 100%.
[20:05] <Markopotamus> Hmm. Any idea how I could grant my windows PC permision to write stuff on this computer?
[20:22] <vidd> Markopotamus, who owns the share directory?
[20:22] <Markopotamus> Umm. What's the console command to 'get' a whole dirrectory rather than just a file?
[20:23] <Markopotamus> The respective accounts on either computer I suppose.
[20:23] <Markopotamus> vidd: ^^ I think
[20:23] <vidd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=365770
[20:25] <vidd> Markopotamus, did that link help
[20:29] <Markopotamus> vidd: still looking at it actually.
[20:29] <Markopotamus> vidd: thanks - Im starting to slow down now though. Been a long day.
[20:29] <Markopotamus> Incidentally, vidd, could you tell me the command to transfer a whole dirrectory rather than just a file?
[20:31] <vidd> i was looking for that myself last week
[20:31] <vidd> i didnt get an answer
[20:32] <Markopotamus> yerk. That's not good
[20:32] <vidd> i ended up using an ftp client (gftp)
[20:32] <Markopotamus> oh noes
[20:32] <Markopotamus> Man, I really need a GUI for this samba buisness
[20:33] <vidd> install it....use....then uninstall --purge it
[20:33] <vidd> no muss, no huff, no fuss
[20:33] <vidd> =]
[20:34] <Markopotamus> vidd: erm... trying it, not entirely clear how to make it work accross the network though
[20:35] <vidd> make what work across a network?
[20:36] <Markopotamus> gFTP
[20:36] <Markopotamus> brb
[20:36] <vidd> its easy
[20:37] <vidd> set the hostname as the ip address of the server
[20:38] <greenman> Hi, anyone around `notes the sparsely populated channel
[20:38] <vidd> hello greenman
[20:39] <vidd> this is sparse? i call it "uncrowded"! =]
[20:39] <Markopotamus> vidd: t'aint working
[20:40] <vidd> gftp?
[20:42] <Markopotamus> yeah
[20:42] <vidd> is gftp installed?
[20:42] <Markopotamus> yes
[20:42] <Markopotamus> ... ;)
[20:43] <vidd> ok....which machine is the ftp server?
[20:44] <Markopotamus> Erm. The windows PC
[20:44] <vidd> and do you know its local ip?
[20:44] <Markopotamus> yus
[20:44] <vidd> set that as the hostname
[20:45] <vidd> do you know the FTP username and password?
[20:46] <Markopotamus> FTP username and password? If it's anything other than the account username and password for the accounts on either computer then I've no idea.
[20:46] <vidd> well.....when you ftp'd to the windows machine in cli....what did you use?
[20:47] <greenman> vidd: uncrowded works.  :)
[20:47] <greenman> Hello.  I have xubuntu, and I seem to have lost my top and bottom bars, not quite sure how to get them back.  I don't remember changing any settings to get rid of them.  Any suggestions?
[20:47] <Markopotamus> vidd: I've never used ftp between these computers ;s
[20:54] <vidd> Markopotamus, when you set up the ftp server on the windows machine, you needed to create a user account with a password
[20:54] <vidd> at least, you should have
[20:55] <Markopotamus> hmm ok.
[20:55] <vidd> my recomendation would be to set the ftp server up on the linux box, and use filezilla to ftp in and out
[20:55] <Markopotamus> Wouldn't I need to instal extra software to do that? apache or something?
[20:56] <vidd> just an ftp server like proftpd
[20:57] <Markopotamus> hrm. I wonder if smartftp would work
[21:04] <Markopotamus> heeeey
[21:04] <Markopotamus> awsome
[21:05] <Markopotamus> recurse, prompt, mget <directory>
[21:05] <Markopotamus> works \o/
[21:06] <Markopotamus> Result! Not a pretty result. Not a user friendly result, but never the less... lots and lots of stuff is now transfering from meh windows PC to this one.
[21:08] <zynergi> a server with a 10mbps port is going to have a maximum upload speed of 1000KB/s, right?
[21:16] <greenman> Anyone got anything for my question?
[21:18] <cody-somerville> greenman, press alt+f2
[21:19] <cody-somerville> and type in: xfce4-panel
[21:19] <cody-somerville> and hit return
[21:22] <greenman> Cool.  Is glad to have that back.  What got rid of it?  Will it start auto next time I login?
[21:25] <vidd> sorry greenman i was on a call @ work =]
[21:25] <vidd> greenman, it probably just crashed, and should reload
[21:25] <greenman> vidd: that's fine.  :)
[21:26] <greenman> Well, I've restarted since I lost it, that's why I ask.  But since it's going now it should start when I restart?
[21:26] <vidd> it depends....
[21:27] <vidd> when you restart, do you save your session?
[21:27] <greenman> vidd: It never asks, I just click the door, and then the shut down button
[21:27] <vidd> there is a check box
[21:29] <greenman> vidd: I'll look for it next time I shutdown
[21:36] <greenman> well got to go.  Thanks for fixin' me up.
[21:37] <vidd> is google chrome available in the repo's?
[21:39] <greenman> I've heard it's all kinds of buggy
[21:39] <vidd> oh...then ill wait
[21:42] <greenman> vidd: I don't have it yet, I've just heard from a few who do.  :)
[21:42] <vidd> i had a customer want help with it
[21:52] <greenman> well, if you wanna get it, I wouldn't say no, the bugs were little things like not doing frames right, and a little css hiccups.  It's bound to be better than IE...  `S`
[21:52]  * vidd dont use M$ products if at all possible
[21:55] <greenman> same here.  `S`
[21:58] <thinkmassive> are you talking about Chrome?
[21:58] <thinkmassive> I walked in late
[22:01] <thinkmassive> I'm running Vista in a VirtualBox VM and I'd like to set it up for other Linux users at my office, but I'd like to make it so my desktop icons and panel are restricted to one display
[22:01] <thinkmassive> has anyone done this?
[22:01] <thinkmassive> that's Linux desktop on one display, vm on another, just to clarify
[23:09] <Mannequin> ﻿hi. On a XUbuntu 8.04.1 almost-fresh install, if computer stays inactive for a few minutes, the screensaver is activated (as expected)
[23:09] <Mannequin> but then, if it stays inactive a few minutes more, it goes to a flickering  black screen and I can't go back
[23:09] <Mannequin> (the only way to have my computer back is restarting X, but then, I lose my works)
[23:14] <favro> Mannequin: does it happen if you use a blank screen instead of animated screensaver?
[23:15] <Mannequin> favro: haven't tested. How could I set it so I can do the test?
[23:15] <xaer0> hello
[23:15] <favro> Mannequin: applications-system settings  would be the first place I'd look :)
[23:15] <xaer0> ... my xubuntu is getting sick :(
[23:17] <xaer0> compiz, emerald, and AWM are working correctly.. and my system is hangs on shutdown/reboot
[23:17] <Mannequin> favro: thanks. At least, doing a screensaver preview (both blank screen and animated/3d screensavers), the issue isn't triggered
[23:17] <Mannequin> it seems more related to a power management issue
[23:17] <favro> Mannequin: you did say it took some minutes...
[23:17] <xaer0> compiz and emerald aren't loading correctly.. and i have to manually start "gnome-screensaver" on log-in
[23:18] <Mannequin> favro: yes, I should keep  my hands aways a few minutes :)
[23:18] <favro> xaer0: try in #compiz-fusion
[23:18] <Mannequin> ﻿the computer stays inactive -> goes to screen saver
[23:18] <Mannequin> then, the computer still inactive -> stand-by?
[23:18] <xaer0> the only why compiz and emerald work is if i ask Compiz-Icon to restart the WM on every log-in and restart
[23:18] <Mannequin> I will do the test, and then come back and report
[23:18] <favro> luck :)
[23:19] <xaer0> well my xubuntu still hangs on shutdown and restart
[23:20] <Mannequin> favro: looking at the Power Management options, it seems to be probably related to the "Put display to sleep when inactive for 40 minutes". I will try lowering it to speed up my test
[23:21] <xaer0> this has all got to be a Debian or Xubuntu problem. OpenSUSE 11 (KDE) or Fedora 9 (Gnome) doesnt have this much problems
[23:31] <Guest61855> ok, tested, even using a blank screen as screen saver, when xubuntu "puts the screen to sleep", X craches
[23:31] <Guest61855> crashes, and it never comes back
[23:34] <favro> Mannequin: check the X log in /var/log - I would do    cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE  in a terminal as a start
[23:36] <Mannequin_2> favro: I will... but... in the meanwhile, this happened:
[23:37] <Mannequin_2> i started typing ctrl+alt+f1 (f2, etc) until I get a console to run the command you suggested
[23:37] <favro> Mannequin_2: does ctrl+alt+F2 get you a login prompt
[23:37] <Mannequin_2> and of course, i also tried ctrl + alt + f7, and it seems to bring back my panels/desktop with all my windows
[23:37] <Mannequin_2> :)
[23:38] <favro> k
[23:38] <Mannequin_2> I will trying to reproduce it, because I don't like this workaround of hitting ﻿ (several times) ctrl+alt+f7 to bring my desktop back
[23:39] <favro> so all your open windows are still open? - that's better...
[23:39] <Mannequin_2> (i can also try setting "Put display to sleep" to "Never", but again, it's just a workaround)
[23:39] <Mannequin_2> yes, the windows are still open. I'm about to try again (X "crashed").
[23:40] <Mannequin_2> ok, this is weird: ctrl+alt+f[1-6] doesn't do anything while my screen is flickering and totally black
[23:41] <Mannequin_2> but ctrl+alt+f7 brings back my desktop, all windows open, etc
[23:41] <favro> hmmm
[23:41] <Mannequin> I'm here too :)
[23:42] <favro> Mannequin: is there a setting in screensaver "to wake on mouse/keyboard"?
[23:44] <Mannequin_2> favro: I put the output of the Xorg.0.log here:
[23:44] <Mannequin_2> http://pastebin.com/m3e83781e
[23:46] <favro> Mannequin_2: seems the touchpad isn't set up so X might be having issues with input from it
[23:47] <cancu> hi.. i want to know which are xubuntu requirements... can anyone tell me?
[23:48] <favro> Mannequin_2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[23:48] <cancu> To install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space on your hard disk.
[23:48] <cancu> Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 192 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 256 MB RAM.
[23:48] <Mannequin_2> favro: thanks, I will try (re)configuring X
[23:48] <Mannequin_2> favro: ah, thanks for the link too
[23:48] <cancu> i have 128mb .. will it work? :S
[23:48] <favro> :)
[23:49] <favro> cancu: you'll need the alternate cd but yes it'll work
[23:49] <favro> !alternate
[23:49] <cancu> why the alternate?
[23:50] <favro> cancu: it is not a live cd so needs less resources like mem
[23:50] <cancu> but does it have a nice gui ?? :) ive never installed ubuntu without live-cd _S
[23:51] <favro> cancu: it looks more basic but if you read carefully it is straight forward
[23:52] <cancu> ok.. ill download both cds and try :)
[23:52] <cancu> thanks
[23:52] <favro> np :)
[23:52] <xaer0> emerald + compiz fixed.. thanks for the channel referal
[23:53] <xaer0> okay next up... Unable to eject "drive": cannot spawn /usr/bin/eject
[23:54] <xaer0> "unable to eject "drive": Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL"
[23:54] <xaer0> weird errors o_~ things i havent seen before.. been a xubuntu user since 6.10
[23:58] <xaer0> anyone? i tired Gparted.. and ever since then this error has popped up with my removable drives