[00:00] yamatteo_fullsto: move your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak then try that one [00:02] i'm coming soon [00:04] mh [00:05] is there a xogr configuration? [00:16] yamatteo_full: to get back to defaults use sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [00:16] no no [00:17] there is no problem [00:17] safe-graphics mode start in anycase [00:17] k [00:17] thet command don't work [00:18] sudo displayconfig-gtk replaced it [00:19] TheSheep: really? hmmm [00:20] when i run displayconfig-gtk , i try to change something an test : "Configuration test failed. Please verify the selected devices and configuration" [00:20] with ANY possible setting [00:46] ok [00:46] don't worry about [00:46] i think i'll give up [00:53] guys i am trying to replace a gif file within my magento config. the new gif is on the desktop, and i have to get it to: var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/________ [00:57] nubuntu: gksu thunar [01:02] I can't get spell check working in abiword or openoffice, does anyone else have this issue? === Sir_Lewk_ is now known as Sir_Lewk [01:05] Sir_Lewk: any details? [01:05] Sir_Lewk: do you have the language packs installed? [01:05] hi [01:05] intsalled xubuntu in an old pc [01:05] boot takes too long..like 8 minutes. :S pentium III 128 ram. [01:05] yes, they appear to be installed, I don't have access to the machine at this moment [01:05] and can u guys help me to use vesa driver please? [01:06] I'll get back when my brother finishes up his homework on it [01:06] any1 [01:08] I think it should default to vesa if nothing else works [01:09] it works [01:09] but with some crazy resolution and pixels [01:09] how can i go to vesa? [01:15] vesa will often not give you native resolutions [01:16] that's ok [01:16] all i want is to see clearly [01:16] lol [01:18] what sort of graphics card do you have? [01:18] there is probably a better driver than vesa I'd think [01:18] that's ok [01:18] i dont play games [01:19] this is only to see mails [01:19] it's a pentium III700 128 ram [01:19] with a shitty graphics card [01:19] with the current settings colors are ok but image is kinda trimbled [01:19] with vesa used to work ok but i formated it [01:20] how can i see if it is using vesa? [01:20] or how can i make it use vesa? [01:21] I'm not entirely sure, haven't actually used ubuntu myself for a while ;) [01:21] try checking what /etc/X11/xorg.conf says [01:21] /var/log/Xorg.0.log may contain useful info as well [01:23] hfmls: try sudo displayconfig-gtk in a terminal [01:24] ok [01:24] and then [01:24] hfmls: it should let you choose vesa as a driver afaik [01:25] it shows to choose resolution and kind of monitor [01:27] I have Ubuntu 8.04.1 with gnome and xfce installed.. is there any way I can use xfce panel applets in gnome? [01:27] rather, in gnome-panel [01:29] hfmls: then gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add Driver "vesa" to the device section [01:34] hi all? What is the name to run Terminal? [01:34] the path to the bin [01:34] terminal [01:34] /usr/bin/terminal [01:34] Odd-rationale: thanks [01:35] brb [01:35] I was trying to run it from ALT+F2 but I'cant [01:35] but now I mark the option run in a terminal, and it works haha [01:36] other n00b question [01:36] I can't get rid of the Oreange calendar at start up [01:36] how can't I uninstall it? [01:36] JuanTelez: do you have the orage plugin on your panel? [01:37] no [01:37] JuanTelez: checked autostarted applications? [01:37] Odd-rationale: yeap [01:38] and, Terminal doesn't open completly, if I make ALT+F2 [01:38] it opens the program but i get no promt [01:41] i gtg eat... bbl [01:46] c ya Odd-rationale and thank! [01:46] *thanks [01:57] Morning all - anybody want to answer an easy one? [02:07] jdwpom: I guess no-one will speak up 'till they know what you're calling easy... [02:08] A good point. [02:08] I'm curious as to what happens when you try doing things like installing new hardware - specifically a graphics carf [02:08] *card [02:09] Being an ex-windows user, what I *want* to hear is 'you plug it in, linux'll detect it, find drivers, install them and make your day without anything complicated needed. What I'm expecting is something involving the phrase 'recompile your kernel' which scares me. [02:09] jdwpom: X is supposed to automatically configure for the card in hardy so a new card "should" be a non issue [02:10] Do weird things happen involving removal of old, unused drivers at all, or can I stop being paranoid that I'm about to break my system... [02:12] jdwpom: worse case is you'll have 640x480 resolution or it want start the graphics and will need to edit xorg.conf [02:12] *eyetwitch* [02:12] hehe [02:12] What can I say, editing system files still scares em [02:12] *me [02:13] jdwpom: you have to be accurate doing that - computers are dumb [02:14] Then the next question is, after inserting said graphics card (I don't even know what it is/if it'll be better or worse than what I've already got. Spare parts make experimentation fun) and finding it to be worthless (a very real possibility) will unplugging and rebooting dig up the old drivers again? [02:14] (Obviously, most of this isn't happening while the power isn't on.) [02:15] jdwpom: again it "should" ... [02:15] some are lucky some not [02:16] Well, to paraphrase, are drivers handled in the same way on an installed system as they are during the install? (In other words, if I'm using a driver that the installation found, will it find it again) [02:20] jdwpom: again it "should" ... it is new and still needs work imho [02:20] Okie doke. I'll do some backing up and see what ahppens. [02:20] Thanks a bundle :D [02:21] sorry I couldn't be more positive about it... [03:10] midori browser version 0.0.18 , [03:10] in web is 0.0.21 T_T [04:44] guys i am trying to replace a gif file within my magento config. the new gif is on the desktop, and i have to get it to: var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/________ [05:03] could someone please help me get a .gif file moved from my desktop to an image file? [05:04] nubuntu: ?? [05:04] a gif is an image file [05:04] nubuntu: you could use the cp command: cp ~/Desktop/image.gif /path/to/destination [05:04] if you need root priviledges, add sudo... [05:07] Odd-rationale: today someone had given me this command that *din't* work: cp image.gif var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif where logo.gif is the file i want to replace [05:07] sudo cp [05:07] and forgot the / infront of var [05:08] indeed. [05:08] /var/www/magento/skin/frontend/default/default/images/logo.gif [05:09] i wonder if i tried that today ... lemme try it now [05:18] Odd-rationale: and Rakeer , i think *maybe* i got it,, gotta figure out how to get back to the frontend to see if its rendering ... thanks [05:31] Odd-rationale: i haven't gotten to a frontend view yet, but i looked in the filesys and the new logo is there ... with the same 'old' name of logo.gif, which is fine, although i thought i was renaming it with the command you gave me. anyways, that was a breakthrough for me, thanks again :) [05:31] breakthrough meaning my first 'cp' [05:50] hi all [05:53] how to delete files and folders from external HD . they are from Windows and now gives me that error : [05:53] rm: cannot remove `adr.WAB': Read-only file system [05:54] JinKazama: what filesystem driver? [05:54] if it's ntfs, you cannot write or delete on that partition at all [05:54] use ntfs3g instead if you want write access [05:56] ntfs3g > JinKazama [06:03] I knant find ntfs3g here ... [06:03] what is this ? :/ [06:16] I cannot resolve this problem. please some help :) [06:21] wols: shall I have write access if I make format this drive in FAT32 file system ? [06:40] guys [06:40] im running xubuntu live cd [06:40] but the thing is, how can i see my windows fs ? [06:40] (fat32 and ntfs for example) [06:55] hacked: try sudo fdisk -l [06:55] and also sudo blkid [07:10] how to get the file system format to my externel hard drive ? [07:19] !ntfs-3g | JinKazama [07:19] JinKazama: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [07:45] hello guys a friend of mine has bashed hist tasklist on desktop [07:45] no menu or anything [07:45] how i can fix that ? [07:49] done [07:49] runed xfce4-panel [08:15] why does thunar freeze time to time? [08:16] try to reinstall it [08:17] o_O [10:36] How do you run a program that's installed but not listed in the Applications menu? [10:42] Markopotamus: I start with which "program" in a terminal or type the path to it [10:45] ah I see [10:46] favro: perhaps what I really need is to start at square 1 with a newbies guide to terminal commands, the ubuntu file directory structure, etc... I have a feeling I'm just asking lots of dumb questions because I dont know what's going on. [10:48] favro: I didnt manage to get samba working last night :( [10:49] Markopotamus: I've never used it - what is giving you grief? [10:50] !samba [10:50] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [10:51] Markopotamus: what was the program that didn't add an entry to the applications menu? [10:53] well it's probably just me being dumb, not knowing the right commands, but there was one bitwhere I had to edit a file using sudo, but just couldnt get it to open [10:54] favro: I thought I had a few other media programmes installed but they weren't listed. Now I'm wondering if they're actually just packages which are part of the installed applications I *can* see. Can't check now, this lil laptop doesnt like multitasking too much [10:54] Markopotamus: in linux case is important x11 is different to X11 as an example [10:54] k [10:55] favro: yes, I remember that ;) [10:55] Markopotamus: most apps end up in /usr/bin - if you think you have something looking in there is a good start [10:56] right [10:57] favro: right now samba is the thing I wanna get working [10:57] Markopotamus: what's holding you up? [10:59] favro: ok, well Im looking at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently " Mounting unprotected "guest" network folders" [10:59] favro: I've created my folder... [10:59] favro: but I cant seem to edit the /etc/fstab file [11:00] Markopotamus: does gksu mousepad /etc/fstab in a terminal not let you? [11:01] favro: It does! See, I just didn't know to do that ;) [11:02] Markopotamus: ok :) [11:02] !sudo | Markopotamus [11:02] Markopotamus: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE) [11:03] favro: thanks [11:03] np [11:03] favro: Incidentally, I keep getting an error saying "sudo: unable to resolve host " [11:04] erm... by I think I mean the name for the root account, or the first name that was asked for on instalation [11:06] !hostname | Markopotamus [11:06] Markopotamus: Use hostname to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab [11:08] ah ok [11:08] so it's likely that they don't currently match? [11:09] favro: so - sudo mousepad /etc/hostname or gksu mousepad /etc/hostname ? [11:09] Markopotamus: yep - check the two files then set it in terminal [11:10] Markopotamus: I would just browse to them first [11:10] see that both are the same [11:10] hmm. well they're not [11:11] Markopotamus: then gksu mousepad /etc/hostname [11:12] Markopotamus: make it the same as /etc/hosts and set in terminal [11:12] favro: what do you mean "set it in termnal" ? [11:13] Use hostname to set the hostname [11:13] aaah [11:13] :) [11:16] favro: so what I've got in /etc/hosts is 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 . [11:17] favro: is it ok to just makesure matches what's in /etc/hostname ? [11:17] Markopotamus: there's other stuff that uses /etc/hosts - best to change /etc/hostname imo [11:18] right [11:19] so.. erm. Right. For the hostname thingy, in a terminal I'm typing "sudo hostname " or what? [11:19] or litterally just "hostname " ? [11:20] ( favro: ) [11:20] Markopotamus: so /etc/hostname will have as it's only entry from 127.0.1.1 . [11:21] I've got no idea what could be... [11:21] favro: it should be there though, right? [11:22] Markopotamus: I've got no in my /etc/hosts [11:22] favro: right now /etc/hostname has as its only entry [11:22] and that's it [11:23] Markopotamus: type hostname in a terminal [11:23] Markopotamus: is it the same as in /etc/hosts? [11:24] is the same, yes, but in hosts it has . on the end [11:24] and what does the terminal output say? [11:24] favro: just says the hostname [11:25] favro: (the right one) [11:25] Markopotamus: you shouldn't have the sudo error now [11:25] ah groovy [11:26] favro: argh, no, it's still there [11:26] Markopotamus: so with /etc/fstab edited does the samba bit work? [11:26] k [11:27] Markopotamus: can you copy/paste the one line in /etc/hosts with the in it? [11:28] k [11:29] it's safe to past that info, right? [11:29] *paste [11:29] one line yes [11:29] 127.0.1.1 criter.Ady [11:31] Markopotamus: so that is hostname.domain then? - that's the .Ady? [11:31] yes, I think so [11:32] I'd remove the .Ady if it isn't part of your hostname and try again [11:33] ooooh I know something I've done wrong [11:33] I got this line wrong in fstab //servername/sharename /media/mountname cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode 0 0 [11:34] 0.o [11:37] * Markopotamus removes .Ady [11:39] favro: *ouch* warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab [11:39] mount error: could not find target server. TCP name Panglos/share not found [11:39] No ip address specified and hostname not found [11:41] Markopotamus: sounds like you have to name the windows comp in /etc/hosts - I'll have a quick google [11:43] ah, I just did something to my windows PC to make sure the dirrectory matched and now I have a new error [11:43] but it still says warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab [11:44] Markopotamus: gksu mousepad /etc/fstab go to the end of the last line - hit enter - save and close [11:47] favro: where'd I be without you :\ [11:47] hehe :) [11:47] favro: Right! so... now the error is Permision denied. Hmm. [11:48] the folder I made to root, can't do anything with it. [11:48] with mount -a? [11:48] yeah [11:49] what's the path to something on the desktop? /home/username/desktop/folder ? [11:49] sudo chown -Rv Markopotamus:Markopotamus /path/to/mountpoint [11:49] ~/Desktop [11:51] aaah [11:57] hrm. Still permission deinied [11:59] Markopotamus: what are you mounting exactly? [11:59] wols: just a folder. I want this Xubuntu laptop to talk to my Windows XP PC [12:14] * Markopotamus has to go but will be back [12:14] cheers for the help again, favro === evalles_ is now known as effie_jayx [13:55] What'd be the best way to get the java working in Hardy Heron? [13:55] Markopotamus, how is it not working? [13:56] cody-somerville: I can't run a jnlp file [13:56] * Markopotamus is looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java right now [13:57] Try install xubuntu-restricted-extras [13:57] *installing [13:58] Oo, is that accessible through Add/Remove applications? [13:58] Yes, I see it is [14:00] hey1 someone can give me alternate cd adress?(link of iso) [14:03] jimmy_birer, for what release? [14:03] Markopotamus, :) [14:03] 8.04 [14:03] http://xubuntu.org/get [14:03] noooooooo [14:04] i want the link of iso [14:04] not html page! [14:04] because puppy crashes [14:05] Is that the same guy that was trolling here yesterday? [14:06] cody-somerville: Yeh. [14:06] sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre \o/ It works. [14:23] !samba [14:23] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [14:26] Is it possible to set up raid 0 for my two hard drives here just as easy as I can in Windows? [14:27] hi [14:30] mark!raid | Woo [14:30] oops [14:30] !!raid | Woo [14:30] Woo: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [14:30] * cody-somerville notes that he needs folks to test Alpha 4 candidate and report to iso testing tracker! :-) [14:32] Right, so there is no simple wizard I can run to make it? [15:14] hello [15:15] how can i clean my system of loose packages that are not used, because of uninstalled software? [15:15] Ben_Cs, sudo apt-get autoremove --purge [15:16] the --purge gets rid of config files too [15:16] vidd: is it the same as autoremovable in synaptic? cause in synaptic it lists packages that are autoremovable but i seem to use them. [15:18] well, i tr, thanks === march is now known as march_afk [15:21] Can I set up two disks to the same mount point so I can combine their storage? [15:21] Ben_Cs, i dont use synaptic....so i cant answer that' [15:22] Woo: no, it doesn't work like that [15:22] Woo: look into LVM [15:22] lvm? [15:23] !lvm [15:23] Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO [15:23] or do a google search for "combine disks lvm" or somesuch [15:23] there are lots of instructions out there [15:23] i am a newbie [15:24] combining disks is not a simple task, it takes a bit of work [15:24] NOTICE: IF you'd like to help the Xubuntu developer team, please feel free to help test the candidate images for the upcoming Intrepid Alpha 4. Everything you need to do so can be found at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/xubuntu/all :-) [15:24] i just want a a raid 0 [15:24] what is the easiest way i can do it with minimum reading? [15:24] vidd: if i continue using this cleanup method, will my xubuntu stay clean and not need reinstall? (i.e. windows needs clean reinstall every some time) [15:26] Woo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID [15:27] Ben_Cs, that should be fairely accurate\ [15:27] i don't want to boot with it [15:27] i cannot guarentee you will never need a reinstall....but not nearly as often [15:28] i just want my two new hard drives to list as one [15:30] that guide covers booting and installing [15:31] Woo: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/04/27/managing-disk-space-with-lvm.html?page=2 might be helpful, but as I already said - this isn't a simple thing, it's going to take some work [15:32] ok then i suggest "you" work on making it simpler [15:32] in windows it's just a few clicks [15:33] Woo, in windows its inefficient and prone to failure. [15:34] In Windows it just worked. [15:34] The only time I have ever seen a windows RAID is when it has failed [15:35] Then you lack experience. [15:35] Me or my friends have never had any problems with it. [15:35] As end users. [15:35] Woo, Maybe you could work on improving the raid experience on Linux if you're interested in it :-) [15:36] Woo, You have to remember that the folks here are all end users as well and if they don't use raid themselves it might be difficult to do that work you're requesting of them. [15:36] Lol, I can't program anything without knowing how this all works in the first place :P [15:39] *Newbie Talking* Isn;t this an lvm issue?* [15:40] *Newbie talking* forget I spoje, after more reading [15:40] *spke [15:40] *kinda runk* [15:40] *drunkk [15:40] *fuckit [15:41] Uh...ok! [15:41] WIN! [15:42] :/ [15:42] cody does not approve... [15:42] hey cody now that you're on... [15:43] * cody-somerville runs. [15:43] i put xub on my friend's laptop [15:43] :-) [15:43] woot [15:43] LOL [15:43] the screen blanks every couple of minutes [15:43] about 5-10 if i don't move the mouse [15:43] I think thats called the screensaver ;p [15:43] no screensavers, not locking screen when computer is idle [15:43] Right [15:43] It is just the screen blacking out [15:44] Look in power settings [15:44] when i wiggle mouse, cursor appears [15:44] but it will not show X [15:44] * cody-somerville needs people with amd64 computers to help test Intrepid Alpha 4 : - ) [15:44] if i alt-ctrl-F(number) then back to F7 it works [15:44] weird [15:44] Sounds like an X bug to me. [15:45] cody-somerville I'll do it :P [15:45] :D [15:45] I just lost my job so.... [15:45] why not! [15:45] : O [15:45] okay it's just a bug i guess [15:46] it's just frustrating [15:47] I imagine. [15:47] Can you pastebin your Xorg.0.log? [15:47] Also dmesg | tail [15:47] okay [15:49] where is Xorg.0.log? [15:49] i am pastebinning dmesg [15:50] /srv/log/ [15:50] erm [15:50] /var/log [15:50] okay [15:50] no installed viewer capable of displaying.... [15:51] nevermind LOL [15:55] pastebin.com/m4485ad7f [15:56] is that it? [15:57] tail messages [15:58] not at bottom? [15:59] hmm? [16:00] dmesg | tail is at line 736 i think [16:00] yes [16:00] can you tail /var/log/messages [16:00] okay.. [16:00] :] [16:01] err exactly how to do that {n00b} [16:01] LOL trying to put xub on other people's comps and it's the little things that are a challenge LMAO [16:02] type: tail /var/log/messages [16:02] k [16:04] okay pastebin.com/m7a01eeee [16:04] is there any easy to configure ftp server (like filezilla) you recomend? [16:05] Woo, proftpd is simple enough [16:05] IMO [16:05] yeah it is [16:06] Woo, the only configuration i did was to lock users into their home directories (remove on #) [16:06] *one [16:07]