[01:28] <stdin> kde svn 857207
[01:28] <stdin> apachelogger: ^
[01:29] <stdin> works without the "kde" and with "rev ...."
[01:30] <stdin> bzr support coming soon :)
[02:02]  * JontheEchidna tries
[02:02] <JontheEchidna> kde svn 857227
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[04:53] <stdin> trunk svn 857239 /KDE/kdebase
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[04:56] <stdin> trunk svn 857239 /KDE/kdebase
[04:57] <stdin> that's better
[08:49] <jussi01> apachelogger: around? Dunno if its you or Jon or who, but the twitter plasmoid is broken in 4.1.1 - I add it and get a small black circle... (PPA, Hardy)
[09:19] <jussi01> oh and apachelogger - that dot issue is also happening without desktop effects - it seems to be the top corner of a border thats behind everything perhaps?
[09:42] <seaLne> should the twitter plasmoid use kde proxy settings? in intrepid in "works" for me but dosen't display any tweets
[09:43] <Nightrose> seaLne: WindowsUninstall is the guy to ask
[09:44] <seaLne> does it work for you?
[09:44] <Nightrose> twitter applet works for me in hardy - but i don't use a proxy
[09:47] <seaLne> yeah, just wanted to check it atleast worked for someone :)
[09:48] <Nightrose> hehe
[09:48] <seaLne> nothing worse than looking at the wrong problem
[09:49] <goatsocks> how about looking at the right problem, but being too incompetent to do anything about it? ;)
[09:49]  * goatsocks finds himself in that situation a lot
[09:50] <seaLne> yeah i have that problem aswell :)
[10:56] <xerosis> seaLne: the twitter plasmod doesn't use the proxy settings atm but asiego is rewriting to afaik
[10:59] <seaLne> xerosis: ah, ta
[10:59] <seaLne> unfortunatly proxy support never seems to be a priority as home users don't need it
[11:05] <Riddell> I'd have thought it used kioslaves which will support everything
[11:08] <seaLne> yeah seems a bit strange but it was a very early plasmoid
[11:14] <doc__> hi there
[11:21] <Riddell> buenas dias doc__
[11:26] <doc__> Riddell: hola :)
[11:48] <Nightrose> Riddell: it should use that but according to the discussion on k-(c?)-d about Thiago probibiting the use of one function it does not (sorry forgot what exactly it was)
[11:49] <Nightrose> but I think it is being changed or already is in trunk - WindowsUninstall would know
[11:52] <Riddell> he prohibited QHttp no?  in favour of kioslaves
[11:53] <Nightrose> jep I think that was it
[11:53] <Jucato> QHttp and QFtp
[13:13] <Nightrose> any news on getting mailody to work in hardy? or does it at least work in intrepid?
[13:18] <Riddell> it doesn't work in hardy?
[13:18] <Nightrose> nope - due to appamor blocking akonadi last I heard
[13:19] <Nightrose> and I just tested - still doesn't work with latest updates
[13:19]  * akonadi ..
[13:19] <Nightrose> hehe
[13:23] <Riddell> Nightrose: turn off apparmour?
[13:23] <Riddell> apachelogger did a workaround in intrepid for it
[13:24] <apachelogger> I actually think I backported all the stuff
[13:24] <Nightrose> you didn't it seems :)
[13:24] <apachelogger> I am pretty sure I did
[13:24] <apachelogger> if people wouldn't mess up their apparmor...
[13:24] <Nightrose> I didn't mess around with mine ;-)
[13:24] <apachelogger> what's it saying
[13:25] <Nightrose> nothing - akonadi tray just doesn't start the server
[13:26]  * apachelogger is surprised akonaditray is actually capable of starting itself
[13:26] <apachelogger> Nightrose: konsole akonadiserver start
[13:26] <Nightrose> and tells me it is not running
[13:26] <Nightrose> k sec
[13:27] <Nightrose> unknown command akonadiserver
[13:27]  * apachelogger is going to remove kernel 2.6.27
[13:29] <apachelogger> me@apoc { ~/4.1.1-hardy/mailody-kde4-1.5.0~alpha1 }$ dpkg -S akonadiserver
[13:29] <apachelogger> akonadi-server: /usr/bin/akonadiserver
[13:29] <apachelogger> me@apoc { ~/4.1.1-hardy/mailody-kde4-1.5.0~alpha1 }$ grep 'Depends' debian/control
[13:29] <apachelogger> Build-Depends: cdbs, debhelper (>= 5), quilt, cmake (>= 2.4.5), automoc,
[13:29] <apachelogger> Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, akonadi-kde, akonadi-server
[13:29] <apachelogger> ha! wrong source
[13:30] <Nightrose> apachelogger: is that your way of telling me I should have it? :P
[13:30] <apachelogger> you know, I am quite often surprised by the pointlessnes of dpkg/apt
[13:30] <Nightrose> hehe
[13:30] <apachelogger> how am I supposed to support prior releases if I can't easily get the source packages
[13:33] <apachelogger> ok
[13:33] <apachelogger> this is crap
[13:33] <apachelogger> seriously
[13:33] <apachelogger> Nightrose: instal akonadi-kde and akonadi-server
[13:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: is the main freeze lifted yet?
[13:34] <Nightrose> apachelogger: ok trying
[13:34] <Riddell> not that I know of
[13:34] <apachelogger> Ok
[13:35] <Riddell> what needs uploading?
[13:35]  * jtechidna needs a main upload sponsored too
[13:35] <Nightrose> apachelogger: ok akonadi-server was not installed - installing now
[13:35] <Nightrose> why isn't it installed as a dependency?
[13:35] <Nightrose> forgotten?
[13:40] <Nightrose> wohooooooooooo
[13:40]  * Nightrose hugs apachelogger and Riddell 
[13:40] <Nightrose> akonadi server running
[13:40] <Nightrose> \o/
[13:40] <jtechidna> o-/-<
[13:40] <jtechidna> o-\-<
[13:40] <jtechidna> o-/-<
[13:42] <Nightrose> mailody still claims it can't find a running akonadi server but well
[13:42] <Nightrose> will get to that later
[13:43] <jtechidna> Nightrose: zips should work :(
[13:43] <Nightrose> jtechidna: :( yea
[13:43] <Nightrose> it doesn't though
[13:43] <jtechidna> :(
[13:43] <Nightrose> I tried it with several archives
[13:43] <Nightrose> no workie
[13:43] <Nightrose> and i have the version you said should contain the fix
[13:44] <Nightrose> i can try with a few more archives if you want
[13:44] <Nightrose> just to make sure
[13:45] <jtechidna> did the upgrade intall libzip1?
[13:45] <jtechidna> or, is libzip1 installed at all?
[13:45] <Nightrose> ok not working with any of the zip files I have here
[13:45] <Nightrose> let me check
[13:45] <Nightrose> it is installed - not sure if it was done with that update or not
[13:46] <jtechidna> ok, good. It's not that then
[13:46] <apachelogger> jtechidna: writing batbackport
[13:46] <apachelogger> although I am not exactly sure what it should be doing
[13:47] <jtechidna> apachelogger: heh
[13:49] <jtechidna> apachelogger: adding libzip-dev as a build depend for ark doesn't fix it in Hardy. Got any ideas?
[13:49] <jtechidna> "it" being the "doesn't open zip files"
[13:50] <jtechidna> ...problem
[13:50] <Riddell> jtechidna: it needs the extra files to be installed too
[13:50] <apachelogger> jtechidna: did it detect libzip properly at cmaketime?
[13:51] <jtechidna> apachelogger: yes, I forgot to add the extra files that are produced to the .install file
[13:52] <jtechidna> ooh: http://grundleborg.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/return-of-the-plasma-browser-plugin/
[13:53] <jtechidna> heh, kerfuffle
[13:53] <apachelogger> my mouse is still low on battery
[13:56]  * jtechidna haz wired mause
[13:57] <jtechidna> <3 pinentry-qt4
[13:59] <apachelogger> <3 kate
[13:59] <apachelogger> ♡
[13:59] <apachelogger> uhhh
[13:59]  * apachelogger needs to talk to the quassel devs :P
[14:00] <apachelogger> jtechidna: what is the status of the koffice FTBFS btw?
[14:00] <seaLne> quassel makes irssi look pretty :)
[14:01] <jtechidna> apachelogger: I haven't looked at it
[14:01] <apachelogger> :(
[14:02] <jussi01> seaLne: shush... quassel is lovely
[14:03] <apachelogger> ♥ quassel
[14:03] <jtechidna> I could sell the heat my computer generates compiling koffice2 to my neighbors!
[14:03] <apachelogger> hrrhrr
[14:03] <jtechidna> maybe I could use the money to buy a new computer...
[14:03] <apachelogger> jtechidna: that indeed would be a good idea
[14:03] <jtechidna> I'll probably get a laptop when I go off to college
[14:03] <jtechidna> next year
[14:04] <jtechidna> Nightrose: new kdeutils buildin', should be done in half-an-hour-ish, depending on how long it waits in queue
[14:05] <jtechidna> ooh hotness & usability: http://www.notmart.org/images/newpanelcontroller.png
[14:05] <Nightrose> jtechidna: alright - let me know when it is done and I will test it
[14:05] <Nightrose> need to go shopping in a few mins
[14:05] <apachelogger> laptops are mobile cluster nodes
[14:05] <jussi01> hrmmm...
[14:05] <apachelogger> jtechidna: did you update our plasma-firefox packaging
[14:06] <apachelogger> that beast also needs backporting :S
[14:06]  * jussi01 has no idea how to bluetooth on kde4... anyone care to enlighten me?
[14:06] <apachelogger> tonio would know
[14:07] <jtechidna> apachelogger: nein
[14:07] <apachelogger> ô mon dieu!
[14:08]  * apachelogger doesn't see the use anyway :P
[14:08] <apachelogger> http://dev.chromium.org/developers/faq
[14:08] <apachelogger> last line in the gtk or qt section
[14:08] <apachelogger> so much for ultimate lazyness :P
[14:09] <apachelogger> actually you might want to read the paragraph above as well
[14:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: on intrepid apparmor is again eating akonadiserver
[14:11] <apachelogger> I seriously hate that security stuff
[14:13] <jtechidna> Can anybody tell me why this won't work? svn export svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/trunk/kdereview/kio_bookmarks/
[14:14] <Riddell> jtechidna: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdereview/kio_bookmarks/
[14:14] <Riddell> apachelogger: grr
[14:14] <jtechidna> Riddell: thanks
[14:18] <nixternal> mornin'
[14:33]  * apachelogger hunts apparmor saying "exterminate!!! exterminate!!!!"
[14:34] <ScottK> devfil: Congratulations.
[14:34] <devfil> ScottK: thanks
[14:35] <ScottK> apachelogger: Please be fixing, not exterminating.
[14:35] <apachelogger> meh...
[14:35] <apachelogger> Problem located and extermianted :P
[14:35] <apachelogger> ScottK: I guess that equals fixing apparmor? ;-)
[14:36] <ScottK> Probably just the profiles.
[14:36] <ScottK> Since it's installed by default, we really should make the profiles work for us or the end users will be very grumpy after release.
[14:37] <apachelogger> the profile is brought in by akonadi
[14:37] <apachelogger>   /home/*/.local/share/akonadi/* rw,
[14:37] <apachelogger> became
[14:37] <apachelogger>   /home/*/.local/share/akonadi/** rwk,
[14:37] <apachelogger> now everythign is working as expected again
[14:40] <Riddell> what does that mean?
[14:41] <apachelogger> read write lock on every file and directory within that path
[14:41] <apachelogger> * is only files apparently
[14:41] <apachelogger> actually
[14:41] <apachelogger> thinking about it
[14:41] <seaLne> and the k?
[14:41] <apachelogger> that is still buggy ... what if the user is root
[14:41] <apachelogger> seaLne: locking
[14:43] <seaLne> or that isn't their homedir, at mine is /home/s0/kd
[14:43] <seaLne> at work
[14:45] <seaLne> ok bad example but not just root might not be in /home
[14:46] <apachelogger> hm
[14:48] <apachelogger> http://www.novell.com/documentation/apparmor/book_opensuse_aaquick21_start/index.html?page=/documentation/apparmor/book_opensuse_aaquick21_start/data/article_book_book_opensuse_aaquick_start.html
[14:48] <apachelogger> they use the very same solution I used now
[14:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: kpdf should provide pdf-viewer I guess
[14:50]  * apachelogger there is no kpdf in kde4, is there?
[14:50] <apachelogger> +thinks
[14:50] <ScottK> okular, right?
[14:50] <Tonio_> apachelogger: okular :)
[14:51] <apachelogger> ah, ok :)
[14:51] <Tonio_> apachelogger: sorry for the bad old inabits :)
[14:51] <Tonio_> Riddell: I can upload with the fix, ok ?
[14:51] <apachelogger> main is frozen
[14:51] <ScottK> I think we're still officially frozen.
[14:51] <Tonio_> apachelogger: the package will go in when it gets unfrozen
[14:51] <Tonio_> apachelogger: no ?
[14:51] <ScottK> Tonio_: It's a soft freeze.
[14:52] <ScottK> Publisher is on, but devs are asked to not upload.
[14:52] <apachelogger> seaLne: seems to be working
[14:53] <Tonio_> ScottK: so we have to wait.... ok :)
[14:53] <apachelogger> just that I don't have a dbus session
[14:53]  * apachelogger switches user
[14:54] <apachelogger> jtechidna: are you using adduser for userconfig's create user?
[14:55] <apachelogger> seaLne: http://paste.ubuntu.com/43632/
[14:55] <apachelogger> all working :)
[14:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: well kdegraphics is prepared, I'll upload once the freeze ends
[14:57] <seele> eek, akademy talks are going up.
[14:58] <Riddell> Tonio_: what's new in it?
[14:59] <Riddell> oh provides ok
[14:59] <Tonio_> Riddell: well any package that depends on pdf-vieser installs me acroread :/
[15:00] <ScottK> Does anyone else have any kde4bindings changes they'd like in?  I'm preparing an upload for after the freeze.
[15:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: package ready, I'll upload after the freeze
[15:00] <jtechidna> apachelogger: no clue, I'm just getting the GUI in shape
[15:00] <seele> hmm.. i twould have been nice if they flipped to the overhead every so often so you can see the slides
[15:01] <Riddell> Tonio_: more importantly, kdesudo doesn't work sometimes
[15:01] <Tonio_> Riddell: ah ?
[15:01] <Riddell> on the first run of adept after a login
[15:01] <apachelogger> jtechidna: there were quite some problems with userconfig not following the settings defiend in teh past IIRC, no clue if they are still existing at all
[15:01] <Tonio_> hum according to mornfall that was an adept issue
[15:01] <apachelogger> well
[15:01] <Tonio_> Riddell: will also fail with sudo
[15:01] <apachelogger> Tonio_: it doesn't terminate upon cancel
[15:01] <Tonio_> Riddell: I can't fix that the kdesudo side
[15:02] <Tonio_> Riddell: sudo+adept issue, not especially kdesudo
[15:02] <Riddell> oem-config-prepare has something similar
[15:02] <apachelogger> Tonio_: go to systemsetteings -> advanced -> and click the kdm module -> then click cancel in the kdesudo dialog
[15:02] <Tonio_> apachelogger: yep, I have to check that one out
[15:02] <apachelogger> Tonio_: also kdesudo should expect icon names not icon paths
[15:02]  * apachelogger currently has to pass it the path to the kdm icon
[15:03] <Tonio_> apachelogger: it checks for names
[15:03] <Tonio_> apachelogger: oki I'll handle those 2 ones
[15:03] <Tonio_> apachelogger: the cancel thing is a bug
[15:04] <apachelogger> k, thanks
[15:04] <Tonio_> Riddell: for adept, I think I can't do anything against that one...
[15:04] <Tonio_> Riddell: except for a workarround in the command in use or something
[15:05] <Tonio_> apachelogger: currently working on your issues
[15:07] <Tonio_> Riddell: also removing the xauth output that drives you nuts :)
[15:08] <jtechidna> yay!
[15:08] <Tonio_> apachelogger: we could also recognize kcm modules I guess
[15:08] <Tonio_> apachelogger: not that hard to do, as kcmshell is used
[15:09] <Tonio_> would be nice to output "Login Manager needs upload priviledges" I guess :)
[15:12] <Tonio_> mornfall: any idea what causes the adept problem with sudo already ?
[15:13] <apachelogger> Tonio_: absolutely :)
[15:14] <smarter> or be able to launch .desktop
[15:14] <smarter> for example kdesu /usr/share/kde4/services/style.desktop
[15:14] <smarter> and kdesudo will grab the title from the desktop file
[15:18] <Tonio_> hum does "kdesudo dolphin" work for you ?
[15:18] <Tonio_> seems that I get dbus issues here
[15:18] <Tonio_> probably some env things to fix
[15:18] <Tonio_> can you confirm ?
[15:19]  * apachelogger confirms
[15:19] <Tonio_> and what about kdesudo konqueror ?
[15:19] <Tonio_> I get a bunch of output and doesn't work too
[15:19] <smarter> dolphin opens but the window is gray, dbus error in the console
[15:20] <smarter> then it crashes
[15:20] <apachelogger> it should attach to the user's dbus session
[15:20] <apachelogger> otherwise it can't find nepomuk and goes insane
[15:20] <Tonio_> yep
[15:20] <Tonio_> not a big deal to do
[15:20] <smarter> konqueror doesn't seem to launch
[15:20] <smarter> konqueror(16247) KToolInvocation::klauncher: klauncher not running... launching kdeinit
[15:20] <Tonio_> same for me
[15:20] <smarter> or it's taking a lot of time
[15:20] <smarter> kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update
[15:21] <Tonio_> probably
[15:21] <smarter> looks like it's running all of kde in root :p
[15:21] <apachelogger> well
[15:21] <apachelogger> kdesudo also offers --nonewdcop as start option ;-)
[15:21] <Tonio_> apachelogger: fake option still kdesu does the same :)
[15:22] <Tonio_> apachelogger: that's just for scripts compatibility
[15:22]  * smarter /away for a bit
[15:22] <apachelogger> okay
[15:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: ksvgtopng from -runtime conflicts with old kdelibs4-dev's ksvgtopng ... should I remove the one from kdelibs4-dev or make the packages mutually exclusive?
[15:25] <apachelogger> I guess option 1 makes more sense
[15:28] <Riddell> yeah 1 would be better
[15:42] <Tonio_> apachelogger: cancel click -> done :)
[15:42] <Tonio_> apachelogger: now exporting the dbus session
[15:44] <apachelogger> \o/
[15:46] <apachelogger> add postinst and postrm to akonadi
[15:51] <ScottK> apachelogger: I see you were in -release when I joined.  Do you know what we're waiting on for Alpha 5?
[15:52] <meven> hi
[15:52] <meven> i have a question about buidling kde trunk in intrepid
[15:52] <jtechidna> apachelogger: could I have sponsorship for bug 262661?
[15:52] <meven> i encounter a problem about streamanalyzer lib that seams to be outdated or something
[15:53] <apachelogger> ScottK: too few testing, slangasek rerolled a new i386 edubuntu asking for testing 5 hours ago, no one confirmed it worked so far
[15:53] <apachelogger> dunno if he did test it himself by now
[15:53] <ScottK> I see.  Thanks.
[15:53] <meven> did someone work out this problem ?
[15:54] <apachelogger> metellius: the word 'something' is no good word when trying to explain something
[15:55] <metellius> mishighlight?
[15:55] <jjesse_> is the package ubufox the ubuntu customization of firefox?  if i remove it from my kubuntu intrepid build will i lose firefox?
[15:55] <jtechidna> jjesse_: yes, it is an ubuntu customization and is safe to remove
[15:56] <apachelogger> jtechidna: always me
[15:56] <apachelogger> metellius: yes, sorry
[15:56] <apachelogger> meven: see above
[15:56] <jtechidna> apachelogger: you're always around :P
[15:56] <apachelogger> that sounds like I should stop that :P
[15:56] <jussi01> apachelogger: is a super ninja
[15:57] <meven> apachelogger: i wasn't here :/
[15:57] <apachelogger> meh
[15:57] <apachelogger> meven: what is the problem?
[15:57] <apachelogger> holy barracuda, batman!
[15:58] <apachelogger> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main libcairo2 1.6.4-6ubuntu1
[15:58] <apachelogger>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[15:58] <meven> apachelogger: kdelibs refuses to comile because of conflicts with some dummyannalyzer class that is linked to the libtreamanalyzer package
[15:58] <apachelogger> meven: you need kdesupport with all current strigi I guess
[15:59] <meven> apachelogger: i compiled it first :S
[15:59] <meven> the whole kdesupport i mean
[15:59] <meven> on techbase the problem is registered
[15:59] <apachelogger> which problem?
[15:59] <meven> without hint to resolve
[16:00] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I seem to have got akonadi work, getting the changes somehow backported is going to be fun
[16:00] <Nightrose> apachelogger: you know you are my hero, right?
[16:00] <Nightrose> ;-)
[16:01] <apachelogger> yus, you are a groupie, I wouldn't expect anything else :P
[16:01] <Nightrose> :P
[16:04]  * apachelogger finished investigation and starts fixing, therefore he switches from daft punk to justice ;-)
[16:08] <meven> apachelogger: the precise error message is "src/kdelibs/kio/kio/dummyanalyzers/dummyanalyzers.cpp:43: error: conflicting return type specified for ‘virtual signed char DummyEndAnalyzer::analyze(Strigi::AnalysisResult&, Strigi::InputStream*)’"
[16:09] <apachelogger> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=121978234726907&w=2
[16:10] <meven> apachelogger: thanks i forgot the mailing list
[16:10]  * apachelogger just googled that error :P
[16:11] <meven> :S
[16:11] <meven> i feel a little stupid :/
[16:15] <apachelogger> jtechidna: got a debdiff for kio-bookmarks at hand?
[16:18] <jtechidna> apachelogger: the first upload was a native upload, so there can't be a debdiff
[16:19]  * apachelogger just created one
[16:19] <apachelogger> anyway
[16:19] <apachelogger> jtechidna: kio-bookmarks (0.2-0ubuntu1) intrepid; urgency=low
[16:19] <apachelogger> you got bogus changelog entries
[16:19] <apachelogger> 0.2 never entered ubuntu
[16:19] <apachelogger> jtechidna: what is the point of the get-orig-source?
[16:19] <jtechidna> Oh, right
[16:20] <jtechidna> apachelogger: to satisfy that dude from the motu council who wanted either a watch file or get-orig-source target
[16:21] <Riddell> are those complementary?
[16:22] <apachelogger> Riddell: for updating the tarball, they are pretty much
[16:22] <apachelogger> not for automatic QA tracking
[16:22] <apachelogger> and certainly not when the actual upload is not based on any of them
[16:22] <apachelogger> jtechidna: I am seriously unhappy with having a get-orig-source target when the actual upload is not based on it
[16:22] <apachelogger> especially if it is stable vs. svn
[16:23] <jtechidna> apachelogger: ok, I'll just remove it then. a watch file isn't possible in this case either but oh well
[16:23] <jtechidna> apachelogger: would you like me to just upload it to revu?
[16:24]  * apachelogger generally thinks using revu for any kind of sponsoring is a reasonable good idea ;-)
[16:25]  * jtechidna uploads
[16:26] <Tonio_> apachelogger: exporting the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS doesn't help
[16:26] <Tonio_> apachelogger: the strange thing is that my current standard ser has this set :
[16:26] <Tonio_> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-eRHqYGK3qz,guid=7a4d71c4e6b374fb281d157e48c11a11
[16:26] <Tonio_> the /tmp file doesn't exist.... I must say I don't know how that works
[16:27]  * apachelogger finds dbus overly complex really
[16:27] <apachelogger> Tonio_: maybe some dbus guru is around in kde-devel
[16:27] <Tonio_> apachelogger: true that, I really prefered dcop.....
[16:28] <apachelogger> Tonio_: actually, wouldn't kdesu do something similar?
[16:28] <apachelogger> considering it should be able to start dolphin and konqueror
[16:30] <Tonio_> apachelogger: well sudo is :)
[16:30] <Tonio_> it should only be a matter of env variables in fact
[16:30] <Tonio_> sudo -H konqueror works like a charm for example
[16:39] <Tonio_> apachelogger: the issue is somehow due to kprocess....
[16:39] <Tonio_> apachelogger: /usr/bin/sudo -H -S -p passprompt -- /usr/bin/kcmshell4 kdm --lang fr
[16:39] <Tonio_> apachelogger: works
[16:41] <Tonio_> apachelogger: weird.......... but I'll find a workarround
[16:44] <Tonio_> Riddell: any idea what can cause the difference ?
[16:44] <Tonio_> Riddell: /usr/bin/sudo -H -S -p passprompt -- konqueror
[16:44] <Tonio_> Riddell: that works
[16:44] <Tonio_> Riddell: kdesudo executes the same in a KProcess and that fails.......
[16:49]  * apachelogger is wondering if mailody fetches just the mail headers or the bodies as well
[16:49] <apachelogger> that takes quite long really
[16:49] <smarter> Tonio_: maybe it has something to do with the xauth command kdesudo executes?
[16:49] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I fixed akonadi-kde to depend on -server, mailody to depend on -kde and -server and -server to work properly in hopefully all possible usecases
[16:50] <apachelogger> https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all
[16:50] <Tonio_> smarter: nothing to do with xauth unfortunatelly
[16:50]  * Nightrose hugs apachelogger 
[16:50] <Nightrose> you are the bestest :P
[16:50] <Tonio_> smarter: problem to access dbus and that's it
[16:51] <Tonio_> smarter: works for what doesn't use dbus
[16:51] <apachelogger> Tonio_: maybe kprocesses messes up the envionment vars?
[16:51] <smarter> try with QProcess?
[16:51] <smarter> or the function in c++ std libs
[16:51] <Tonio_> apachelogger: "kdesudo env" gives the same result as sudo -H -P -- env
[16:51] <apachelogger> very strange
[16:51] <Tonio_> apachelogger: true that :/
[16:52] <apachelogger> jtechidna: suggestions for bug 217763 ?
[16:53]  * apachelogger doesn't think we can do anything about it, plus intrepid uses .kde + new phonondevicesrc anyway
[16:54] <jtechidna> yeah, I don't really think we can do much
[16:54] <jtechidna> but how to approach the actual report...
[16:55] <apachelogger> KDE screwed up in 4.0 and didn't provide a proper transition path for > 4.0.0
[16:56] <apachelogger> We don't plan to do so either, because 4.0 is as a whole very unreliable and 4.1 in Intrepid is going to use .kde and therefore gets a new configuration file
[16:56] <jtechidna> We could also fall back to this if we're feeling really lazy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Bugs resolved after update or config change
[16:56] <jtechidna> :P
[16:57] <apachelogger> well
[16:57] <apachelogger> doesn't apply
[16:57] <apachelogger> you have t upgrade + kill your old config
[16:57] <apachelogger> though
[16:58] <ScottK> Since we released Hardy with 4.0 in it, I feel we really should support transition if we can.
[16:58] <apachelogger> jtechidna: maybe we can fix it after all
[16:58] <jtechidna> do we know what the problem with the config file actually is?
[16:59] <apachelogger> ScottK: +1 but if it turns out to be too complicate we might as well close the report.
[16:59] <ScottK> Agreed.
[16:59] <apachelogger> jtechidna: no, but you will ask for a working config file :P
[16:59] <apachelogger> from one of the people who uploaded a broken one
[16:59] <jtechidna> apachelogger: you said KDE didn't offer a proper transition for > 4.0.0
[16:59] <apachelogger> I hope that just some configuration key changed in which case we could use kconf_update to fix it
[16:59] <jtechidna> did you mean > 4.0.x?
[17:00] <apachelogger> from .0 to anything later
[17:01] <apachelogger> Anyway, I think the problem is really that phonon messed up device order at first 4.0.x start and doesn't handle this very well in later versions.
[17:03] <Riddell> Tonio_: konqueror runs fine from kdesudo here
[17:05] <Tonio_> Riddell: hu ?
[17:05] <Tonio_> Riddell: kde4 kdesudo ?
[17:06] <smarter> oh, it run fines here too now
[17:06] <Tonio_> wtf ?????????
[17:06]  * Tonio_ rebooting......
[17:06] <Tonio_> I'm lost
[17:06] <smarter> maybe it's because I tried it earlier
[17:06] <Nightrose> jtechidna: do you feel like backporting some of those plasmoids you packaged? and do you have the time for it?
[17:07] <smarter> Tonio_: the xauth file has a timeout of 60 seconds, maybe konqueror takes longer to start?
[17:07] <Tonio_> smarter: good idea but I get the error after a couple of seconds
[17:07] <Tonio_> rebooting
[17:07] <jtechidna> Nightrose: I could probably backport some.
[17:07] <Nightrose> jtechidna: that would rock :)
[17:10] <jtechidna> Nightrose: which ones did you have in mind?
[17:10] <jtechidna> Czessi did lancelot yesterday btw
[17:11] <jtechidna> Riddell: new update-notifier-kde works great. Nice icon too
[17:11] <Nightrose> jtechidna: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=plasmoid <- teacooker, lancelot, flickr, am4rok, system-status, weather
[17:12] <Nightrose> pick whatever you have time for
[17:12] <Nightrose> are there more than those mentioned on that page?
[17:12] <jtechidna> that's just about all of them
[17:13] <jtechidna> am4rok only works with juk at the moment though :( amarok dbus api changes
[17:13] <Riddell> jtechidna: yay
[17:13] <Nightrose> jtechidna: ok then it is useless to me ;-)
[17:13] <Nightrose> maybe others would like it though
[17:13] <jussi01> *cry* I want lancelot on Hardy!
[17:14] <Nightrose> haha
[17:14] <Nightrose> jussi01: chances are good jtechidna will backport it ;-)
[17:14] <jtechidna> jussi01: Czessi did it yesterday
[17:14] <jussi01> jtechidna: really?
[17:14] <jussi01> is it in the ppa?
[17:14] <Nightrose> but not for hardy
[17:14] <jussi01> oh
[17:14] <jtechidna> he uploaded it to the ppa yesterday
[17:14] <jtechidna> maybe he accidentally uploaded to hardy...
[17:14]  * Nightrose checks again
[17:14] <Tonio_> Riddell: does kdesudo dolphin works for you ?
[17:15] <jtechidna> *to intrepid, I mean
[17:15] <Nightrose> last I looked it was not there
[17:15]  * jtechidna checks the ppa
[17:15] <Tonio_> works for me now
[17:15] <jussi01> its in the hardy ppa - least my apt-cache says so
[17:15] <Tonio_> kdesudo konqueror still fails
[17:15] <Nightrose> wohooooooo
[17:15] <Nightrose> there it is
[17:15] <jtechidna> :)
[17:15] <Nightrose> jussi01: it is available
[17:15]  * Nightrose hugs Czessi__ 
[17:16] <jussi01> YEPS!!!!
[17:16] <jtechidna> somebody should blog about it
[17:16] <Nightrose> hehe yea
[17:16] <Nightrose> Czessi__: blog blog blog!
[17:16] <Nightrose> :p
[17:16] <jussi01> Im going to I think....
[17:16] <Nightrose> or you
[17:16] <Nightrose> yea
[17:17] <jussi01> OOOHHHH!!! SUPER SEXY!!!
[17:17] <Riddell> Tonio_: yes
[17:17] <Nightrose> hehe
[17:18] <Nightrose> ohhhhhhh
[17:18] <Nightrose> sweet
[17:18]  * Nightrose likes
[17:19] <jtechidna> it is quite nice
[17:19] <Tonio_> Riddell: can you paste me your kdesudo konqueror output somewhere please ?
[17:19] <jussi01> This is super sweet!
[17:19] <jussi01> Czessi__: you rock!!
[17:19] <jussi01> and whoeer designed that
[17:19] <Tonio_> Riddell: http://pastebin.com/m6903195b
[17:19] <Riddell> Tonio_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/43666/
[17:19] <Tonio_> Riddell: this is what I get, and no window comes out
[17:21] <jussi01> although... the background is hardcoded white...
[17:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: any idea why I get this ?
[17:21] <Riddell> Tonio_: no, but if I logout and in again I get the same thing
[17:21] <Riddell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/43667/
[17:22] <Tonio_> Riddell: interesting..........
[17:22] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'll investigate
[17:25] <Tonio_> Riddell: now working for me......... super weird
[17:31] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum understand what happens
[17:31] <Tonio_> Riddell: hen you "sudo -H -- konqueror" once, it'll create what's needed so that kdesudo then works....
[17:32] <Tonio_> Riddell: for some reason, due to kprocess, there is something going wrong with the same command started in kprocess first....
[17:32] <Tonio_> Riddell: maybe working like in a jail or something....
[17:36] <Tonio_> Riddell: maybe we should consider switching back to a shellprocess or something
[18:49] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm rewritting kdesudo to use qprocess instead, seems to fix according to my tests
[18:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: also, qprocess seems to pass all the environment, so no trick for Xauth, which is very cool :)
[19:26] <Nightrose> JontheEchidna: wohooooooo
[19:26] <Nightrose> ark worksforme
[19:26] <Nightrose> thanks a bunch
[19:26] <JontheEchidna> :)
[19:27] <Nightrose> apachelogger: wohooooooooo
[19:28] <Nightrose> mailody and akonaditray no longer complain
[19:28] <Nightrose> let's see if I can actually get my emails with it from gmail
[19:28]  * Nightrose hands cookies to apachelogger and JontheEchidna 
[20:42] <yuriy> ScottK: sorry, not going to be able to get the hug day prepared for next tuesday
[20:52] <ScottK> yuriy: Urgh.  OK.  Can we do it another time?
[22:16] <ScottK> NCommander: indi FTBFS on sparc and PPC.  Would you please have another look?
[22:16] <NCommander> WTF
[22:16] <NCommander> Link to build logs
[22:17] <ScottK> Note, I haven't even looked at the logs.  In a hurry.
[22:17] <ScottK> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17316140/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-sparc.indi_5%3A0.5-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:17] <ScottK> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17316090/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-powerpc.indi_5%3A0.5-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:18] <NCommander> I didn't get the build failure notifications yet O_O;
[22:20] <NCommander> Argh, damn it, my patch didn't quite work, I missed a sys/io.h
[22:20] <NCommander> I test built this though ...
[22:20] <NCommander> BAH
[22:25] <ScottK> Please be attaching another debdiff to the bug then.
[22:25] <ScottK> Actually, I can probably do it.
[22:26] <NCommander> ScottK, I rerolled the patch, test building again. I think some changes got merged into the diff wrongly, and I rolled a bad debdiff
[22:34] <NCommander> ScottK, the issue was pbuilder on the PowerPC machine had a hardy chroot; I forgot to change the default there >.>;
[23:32] <JontheEchidna> Ok srsly, we need a pimpin' alpha5 release announcement
[23:32] <JontheEchidna> whatever happened to those wiki pages like in the last releases?
[23:32] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: nixternal got a job is what happened
[23:33] <Riddell> but he's still got to come to UDS in Decembre, we're not letting him off that :)
[23:34] <JontheEchidna> hehe
[23:34] <JontheEchidna> Well I think the changes in Kubuntu are 100x more exciting than the ones in Ubuntu
[23:35] <Riddell> it's a whole new revolution for us
[23:36] <NCommander> Riddell, want to sponsor koffice2's fix?
[23:36] <Riddell> NCommander: sure
[23:36] <NCommander> Riddell, also mind sponsoring a fix for indi? (my last one fixed it on Hardy, not intrepid >.>;, I forgot to upgrade pbuilder on the PPC)
[23:37] <JontheEchidna> is main unfrozen yet?
[23:37] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: alpha is announced so I guess it is
[23:37] <blizzz> where did nixternal get his information for the release messages? was it just by hearsay?
[23:38] <Riddell> NCommander: yes please
[23:38] <Riddell> blizzz: yes, just asking here and people saying what they've been up to in the last two or three weeks
[23:38] <NCommander> Riddell, uploading indi debdiff
[23:39] <NCommander> Riddell, koffice2 is built in my PPA (saves you three to four hours confirming the fix works ;-))
[23:39] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: once you have time I'd like sponsor ship for bug 264370 and bug 224212
[23:39] <blizzz> mh, something i'd not dare to do :(
[23:40] <Riddell> blizzz: if someone starts it as a template other people can fill in the gaps
[23:40]  * JontheEchidna was going to copy over the skeleton of a hardy release wiki
[23:40] <NCommander> Riddell, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indi/+bug/264504
[23:41] <NCommander> Riddell, https://edge.launchpad.net/~sonicmctails/+archive - my PPA with koffice built on all x86* architectures
[23:44] <blizzz> is there something yet for alpha 5?
[23:45] <NCommander> Riddell, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice2/+bug/266941
[23:45] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: Adept & update-notifier-kde are new in alpha5, correct?
[23:46] <Riddell> blizzz: KDE 4.1.1,  apport by default, volume keys work, compositing will work if you install mesa-utils, adept 3, update-notifier-kde will work if you dist-upgrade for update notifying; apport notifying; reboot notifying and upgrade hooks
[23:46] <Riddell> amarok 2 beta is available in universe
[23:47] <NCommander> Riddell, is there any packaging to be done for KDE?
[23:48] <Riddell> NCommander: meta-kde needs updated for kde 4
[23:48] <Riddell> meta-kde4 got removed this week
[23:48] <JontheEchidna> blizzz: I've on a page for alpha5
[23:48] <JontheEchidna> blah
[23:48] <JontheEchidna> *I'm working on a page
[23:49] <blizzz> JontheEchidna: if you need help or so you may ping me... i dunno wether i can do something productive, but it'd be interesting
[23:49] <Riddell> screenshots always help
[23:49] <blizzz> Riddell: ty
[23:54] <Nightrose> seele: looks like you dropped off planet kde :(
[23:54] <Nightrose> just noticed as I saw your last blog on planet ubuntu but not on planet kde
[23:55] <Riddell> just before anyone asks, I can't fix planet when it breaks I'm afraid
[23:55] <Nightrose> ;-)
[23:55] <NCommander> Riddell, you can make world, but you can't fix it :-P
[23:55]  * NCommander runs
[23:58] <Riddell> koffice2 uploaded
[23:58] <Riddell> NCommander: you didn't put the bug number in the changelog so make sure to close it manually