[01:28] kde svn 857207 [01:28] KDE revision 857207: http://websvn.kde.org/?rev=857207&view=rev [01:28] apachelogger: ^ [01:29] works without the "kde" and with "rev ...." [01:30] bzr support coming soon :) [02:02] * JontheEchidna tries [02:02] kde svn 857227 [02:02] KDE revision 857227: http://websvn.kde.org/?rev=857227&view=rev [04:53] [04:53] trunk svn 857239 /KDE/kdebase [04:53] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/?rev=857239&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase -r 857239 [04:53] [04:56] trunk svn 857239 /KDE/kdebase [04:56] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/?rev=857239&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase -r 857239 [04:57] that's better [08:49] apachelogger: around? Dunno if its you or Jon or who, but the twitter plasmoid is broken in 4.1.1 - I add it and get a small black circle... (PPA, Hardy) [09:19] oh and apachelogger - that dot issue is also happening without desktop effects - it seems to be the top corner of a border thats behind everything perhaps? [09:42] should the twitter plasmoid use kde proxy settings? in intrepid in "works" for me but dosen't display any tweets [09:43] seaLne: WindowsUninstall is the guy to ask [09:44] does it work for you? [09:44] twitter applet works for me in hardy - but i don't use a proxy [09:47] yeah, just wanted to check it atleast worked for someone :) [09:48] hehe [09:48] nothing worse than looking at the wrong problem [09:49] how about looking at the right problem, but being too incompetent to do anything about it? ;) [09:49] * goatsocks finds himself in that situation a lot [09:50] yeah i have that problem aswell :) [10:56] seaLne: the twitter plasmod doesn't use the proxy settings atm but asiego is rewriting to afaik [10:59] xerosis: ah, ta [10:59] unfortunatly proxy support never seems to be a priority as home users don't need it [11:05] I'd have thought it used kioslaves which will support everything [11:08] yeah seems a bit strange but it was a very early plasmoid [11:14] hi there [11:21] buenas dias doc__ [11:26] Riddell: hola :) [11:48] Riddell: it should use that but according to the discussion on k-(c?)-d about Thiago probibiting the use of one function it does not (sorry forgot what exactly it was) [11:49] but I think it is being changed or already is in trunk - WindowsUninstall would know [11:52] he prohibited QHttp no? in favour of kioslaves [11:53] jep I think that was it [11:53] QHttp and QFtp === rdieter_away is now known as rdieter === rdieter is now known as rdieter_away [13:13] any news on getting mailody to work in hardy? or does it at least work in intrepid? [13:18] it doesn't work in hardy? [13:18] nope - due to appamor blocking akonadi last I heard [13:19] and I just tested - still doesn't work with latest updates [13:19] * akonadi .. [13:19] hehe === akonadi is now known as nihui [13:23] Nightrose: turn off apparmour? [13:23] apachelogger did a workaround in intrepid for it [13:24] I actually think I backported all the stuff [13:24] you didn't it seems :) [13:24] I am pretty sure I did [13:24] if people wouldn't mess up their apparmor... [13:24] I didn't mess around with mine ;-) [13:24] what's it saying [13:25] nothing - akonadi tray just doesn't start the server [13:26] * apachelogger is surprised akonaditray is actually capable of starting itself [13:26] Nightrose: konsole akonadiserver start [13:26] and tells me it is not running [13:26] k sec [13:27] unknown command akonadiserver [13:27] * apachelogger is going to remove kernel 2.6.27 [13:29] me@apoc { ~/4.1.1-hardy/mailody-kde4-1.5.0~alpha1 }$ dpkg -S akonadiserver [13:29] akonadi-server: /usr/bin/akonadiserver [13:29] me@apoc { ~/4.1.1-hardy/mailody-kde4-1.5.0~alpha1 }$ grep 'Depends' debian/control [13:29] Build-Depends: cdbs, debhelper (>= 5), quilt, cmake (>= 2.4.5), automoc, [13:29] Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, akonadi-kde, akonadi-server [13:29] ha! wrong source [13:30] apachelogger: is that your way of telling me I should have it? :P [13:30] you know, I am quite often surprised by the pointlessnes of dpkg/apt [13:30] hehe [13:30] how am I supposed to support prior releases if I can't easily get the source packages [13:33] ok [13:33] this is crap [13:33] seriously [13:33] Nightrose: instal akonadi-kde and akonadi-server [13:33] Riddell: is the main freeze lifted yet? [13:34] apachelogger: ok trying [13:34] not that I know of [13:34] Ok [13:35] what needs uploading? [13:35] * jtechidna needs a main upload sponsored too [13:35] apachelogger: ok akonadi-server was not installed - installing now [13:35] why isn't it installed as a dependency? [13:35] forgotten? [13:40] wohooooooooooo [13:40] * Nightrose hugs apachelogger and Riddell [13:40] akonadi server running [13:40] \o/ [13:40] o-/-< [13:40] o-\-< [13:40] o-/-< [13:42] mailody still claims it can't find a running akonadi server but well [13:42] will get to that later [13:43] Nightrose: zips should work :( [13:43] jtechidna: :( yea [13:43] it doesn't though [13:43] :( [13:43] I tried it with several archives [13:43] no workie [13:43] and i have the version you said should contain the fix [13:44] i can try with a few more archives if you want [13:44] just to make sure [13:45] did the upgrade intall libzip1? [13:45] or, is libzip1 installed at all? [13:45] ok not working with any of the zip files I have here [13:45] let me check [13:45] it is installed - not sure if it was done with that update or not [13:46] ok, good. It's not that then [13:46] jtechidna: writing batbackport [13:46] although I am not exactly sure what it should be doing [13:47] apachelogger: heh [13:49] apachelogger: adding libzip-dev as a build depend for ark doesn't fix it in Hardy. Got any ideas? [13:49] "it" being the "doesn't open zip files" [13:50] ...problem [13:50] jtechidna: it needs the extra files to be installed too [13:50] jtechidna: did it detect libzip properly at cmaketime? [13:51] apachelogger: yes, I forgot to add the extra files that are produced to the .install file [13:52] ooh: http://grundleborg.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/return-of-the-plasma-browser-plugin/ [13:53] heh, kerfuffle [13:53] my mouse is still low on battery [13:56] * jtechidna haz wired mause [13:57] <3 pinentry-qt4 [13:59] <3 kate [13:59] ♡ [13:59] uhhh [13:59] * apachelogger needs to talk to the quassel devs :P [14:00] jtechidna: what is the status of the koffice FTBFS btw? [14:00] quassel makes irssi look pretty :) [14:01] apachelogger: I haven't looked at it [14:01] :( [14:02] seaLne: shush... quassel is lovely [14:03] ♥ quassel [14:03] I could sell the heat my computer generates compiling koffice2 to my neighbors! [14:03] hrrhrr [14:03] maybe I could use the money to buy a new computer... [14:03] jtechidna: that indeed would be a good idea [14:03] I'll probably get a laptop when I go off to college [14:03] next year [14:04] Nightrose: new kdeutils buildin', should be done in half-an-hour-ish, depending on how long it waits in queue [14:05] ooh hotness & usability: http://www.notmart.org/images/newpanelcontroller.png [14:05] jtechidna: alright - let me know when it is done and I will test it [14:05] need to go shopping in a few mins [14:05] laptops are mobile cluster nodes [14:05] hrmmm... [14:05] jtechidna: did you update our plasma-firefox packaging [14:06] that beast also needs backporting :S [14:06] * jussi01 has no idea how to bluetooth on kde4... anyone care to enlighten me? [14:06] tonio would know [14:07] apachelogger: nein [14:07] ô mon dieu! [14:08] * apachelogger doesn't see the use anyway :P [14:08] http://dev.chromium.org/developers/faq [14:08] last line in the gtk or qt section [14:08] so much for ultimate lazyness :P [14:09] actually you might want to read the paragraph above as well [14:10] Riddell: on intrepid apparmor is again eating akonadiserver [14:11] I seriously hate that security stuff [14:13] Can anybody tell me why this won't work? svn export svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/trunk/kdereview/kio_bookmarks/ [14:14] jtechidna: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdereview/kio_bookmarks/ [14:14] apachelogger: grr [14:14] Riddell: thanks [14:18] mornin' [14:33] * apachelogger hunts apparmor saying "exterminate!!! exterminate!!!!" [14:34] devfil: Congratulations. [14:34] ScottK: thanks [14:35] apachelogger: Please be fixing, not exterminating. [14:35] meh... [14:35] Problem located and extermianted :P [14:35] ScottK: I guess that equals fixing apparmor? ;-) [14:36] Probably just the profiles. [14:36] Since it's installed by default, we really should make the profiles work for us or the end users will be very grumpy after release. [14:37] the profile is brought in by akonadi [14:37] /home/*/.local/share/akonadi/* rw, [14:37] became [14:37] /home/*/.local/share/akonadi/** rwk, [14:37] now everythign is working as expected again [14:40] what does that mean? [14:41] read write lock on every file and directory within that path [14:41] * is only files apparently [14:41] actually [14:41] thinking about it [14:41] and the k? [14:41] that is still buggy ... what if the user is root [14:41] seaLne: locking [14:43] or that isn't their homedir, at mine is /home/s0/kd [14:43] at work [14:45] ok bad example but not just root might not be in /home [14:46] hm [14:48] http://www.novell.com/documentation/apparmor/book_opensuse_aaquick21_start/index.html?page=/documentation/apparmor/book_opensuse_aaquick21_start/data/article_book_book_opensuse_aaquick_start.html [14:48] they use the very same solution I used now [14:50] Riddell: kpdf should provide pdf-viewer I guess [14:50] * apachelogger there is no kpdf in kde4, is there? [14:50] +thinks [14:50] okular, right? [14:50] apachelogger: okular :) [14:51] ah, ok :) [14:51] apachelogger: sorry for the bad old inabits :) [14:51] Riddell: I can upload with the fix, ok ? [14:51] main is frozen [14:51] I think we're still officially frozen. [14:51] apachelogger: the package will go in when it gets unfrozen [14:51] apachelogger: no ? [14:51] Tonio_: It's a soft freeze. [14:52] Publisher is on, but devs are asked to not upload. [14:52] seaLne: seems to be working [14:53] ScottK: so we have to wait.... ok :) [14:53] just that I don't have a dbus session [14:53] * apachelogger switches user [14:54] jtechidna: are you using adduser for userconfig's create user? [14:55] seaLne: http://paste.ubuntu.com/43632/ [14:55] all working :) [14:56] Riddell: well kdegraphics is prepared, I'll upload once the freeze ends [14:57] eek, akademy talks are going up. [14:58] Tonio_: what's new in it? [14:59] oh provides ok [14:59] Riddell: well any package that depends on pdf-vieser installs me acroread :/ [15:00] Does anyone else have any kde4bindings changes they'd like in? I'm preparing an upload for after the freeze. [15:00] Riddell: package ready, I'll upload after the freeze [15:00] apachelogger: no clue, I'm just getting the GUI in shape [15:00] hmm.. i twould have been nice if they flipped to the overhead every so often so you can see the slides [15:01] Tonio_: more importantly, kdesudo doesn't work sometimes [15:01] Riddell: ah ? [15:01] on the first run of adept after a login [15:01] jtechidna: there were quite some problems with userconfig not following the settings defiend in teh past IIRC, no clue if they are still existing at all [15:01] hum according to mornfall that was an adept issue [15:01] well [15:01] Riddell: will also fail with sudo [15:01] Tonio_: it doesn't terminate upon cancel [15:01] Riddell: I can't fix that the kdesudo side [15:02] Riddell: sudo+adept issue, not especially kdesudo [15:02] oem-config-prepare has something similar [15:02] Tonio_: go to systemsetteings -> advanced -> and click the kdm module -> then click cancel in the kdesudo dialog [15:02] apachelogger: yep, I have to check that one out [15:02] Tonio_: also kdesudo should expect icon names not icon paths [15:02] * apachelogger currently has to pass it the path to the kdm icon [15:03] apachelogger: it checks for names [15:03] apachelogger: oki I'll handle those 2 ones [15:03] apachelogger: the cancel thing is a bug [15:04] k, thanks [15:04] Riddell: for adept, I think I can't do anything against that one... [15:04] Riddell: except for a workarround in the command in use or something [15:05] apachelogger: currently working on your issues [15:07] Riddell: also removing the xauth output that drives you nuts :) [15:08] yay! === rdieter_away is now known as rdieter [15:08] apachelogger: we could also recognize kcm modules I guess [15:08] apachelogger: not that hard to do, as kcmshell is used [15:09] would be nice to output "Login Manager needs upload priviledges" I guess :) [15:12] mornfall: any idea what causes the adept problem with sudo already ? [15:13] Tonio_: absolutely :) [15:14] or be able to launch .desktop [15:14] for example kdesu /usr/share/kde4/services/style.desktop [15:14] and kdesudo will grab the title from the desktop file [15:18] hum does "kdesudo dolphin" work for you ? [15:18] seems that I get dbus issues here [15:18] probably some env things to fix [15:18] can you confirm ? [15:19] * apachelogger confirms [15:19] and what about kdesudo konqueror ? [15:19] I get a bunch of output and doesn't work too [15:19] dolphin opens but the window is gray, dbus error in the console [15:20] then it crashes [15:20] it should attach to the user's dbus session [15:20] otherwise it can't find nepomuk and goes insane [15:20] yep [15:20] not a big deal to do [15:20] konqueror doesn't seem to launch [15:20] konqueror(16247) KToolInvocation::klauncher: klauncher not running... launching kdeinit [15:20] same for me [15:20] or it's taking a lot of time [15:20] kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update [15:21] probably [15:21] looks like it's running all of kde in root :p [15:21] well [15:21] kdesudo also offers --nonewdcop as start option ;-) [15:21] apachelogger: fake option still kdesu does the same :) [15:22] apachelogger: that's just for scripts compatibility [15:22] * smarter /away for a bit [15:22] okay [15:25] Riddell: ksvgtopng from -runtime conflicts with old kdelibs4-dev's ksvgtopng ... should I remove the one from kdelibs4-dev or make the packages mutually exclusive? [15:25] I guess option 1 makes more sense [15:28] yeah 1 would be better [15:42] apachelogger: cancel click -> done :) [15:42] apachelogger: now exporting the dbus session [15:44] \o/ [15:46] add postinst and postrm to akonadi [15:51] apachelogger: I see you were in -release when I joined. Do you know what we're waiting on for Alpha 5? [15:52] hi [15:52] i have a question about buidling kde trunk in intrepid [15:52] apachelogger: could I have sponsorship for bug 262661? [15:52] Launchpad bug 262661 in kio-bookmarks "Feature freeze exception for kio-bookmarks 0.2" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262661 [15:52] i encounter a problem about streamanalyzer lib that seams to be outdated or something [15:53] ScottK: too few testing, slangasek rerolled a new i386 edubuntu asking for testing 5 hours ago, no one confirmed it worked so far [15:53] dunno if he did test it himself by now [15:53] I see. Thanks. [15:53] did someone work out this problem ? [15:54] metellius: the word 'something' is no good word when trying to explain something [15:55] mishighlight? [15:55] is the package ubufox the ubuntu customization of firefox? if i remove it from my kubuntu intrepid build will i lose firefox? [15:55] jjesse_: yes, it is an ubuntu customization and is safe to remove [15:56] jtechidna: always me [15:56] metellius: yes, sorry [15:56] meven: see above [15:56] apachelogger: you're always around :P [15:56] that sounds like I should stop that :P [15:56] apachelogger: is a super ninja [15:57] apachelogger: i wasn't here :/ [15:57] meh [15:57] meven: what is the problem? [15:57] holy barracuda, batman! [15:58] Err http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main libcairo2 1.6.4-6ubuntu1 [15:58] 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80] [15:58] apachelogger: kdelibs refuses to comile because of conflicts with some dummyannalyzer class that is linked to the libtreamanalyzer package [15:58] meven: you need kdesupport with all current strigi I guess [15:59] apachelogger: i compiled it first :S === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [15:59] the whole kdesupport i mean [15:59] on techbase the problem is registered [15:59] which problem? [15:59] without hint to resolve [16:00] Nightrose: I seem to have got akonadi work, getting the changes somehow backported is going to be fun [16:00] apachelogger: you know you are my hero, right? [16:00] ;-) [16:01] yus, you are a groupie, I wouldn't expect anything else :P [16:01] :P [16:04] * apachelogger finished investigation and starts fixing, therefore he switches from daft punk to justice ;-) [16:08] apachelogger: the precise error message is "src/kdelibs/kio/kio/dummyanalyzers/dummyanalyzers.cpp:43: error: conflicting return type specified for ‘virtual signed char DummyEndAnalyzer::analyze(Strigi::AnalysisResult&, Strigi::InputStream*)’" [16:09] http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=121978234726907&w=2 [16:10] apachelogger: thanks i forgot the mailing list [16:10] * apachelogger just googled that error :P [16:11] :S [16:11] i feel a little stupid :/ [16:15] jtechidna: got a debdiff for kio-bookmarks at hand? [16:18] apachelogger: the first upload was a native upload, so there can't be a debdiff [16:19] * apachelogger just created one [16:19] anyway [16:19] jtechidna: kio-bookmarks (0.2-0ubuntu1) intrepid; urgency=low [16:19] you got bogus changelog entries [16:19] 0.2 never entered ubuntu [16:19] jtechidna: what is the point of the get-orig-source? [16:19] Oh, right [16:20] apachelogger: to satisfy that dude from the motu council who wanted either a watch file or get-orig-source target [16:21] are those complementary? [16:22] Riddell: for updating the tarball, they are pretty much [16:22] not for automatic QA tracking === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [16:22] and certainly not when the actual upload is not based on any of them [16:22] jtechidna: I am seriously unhappy with having a get-orig-source target when the actual upload is not based on it [16:22] especially if it is stable vs. svn [16:23] apachelogger: ok, I'll just remove it then. a watch file isn't possible in this case either but oh well [16:23] apachelogger: would you like me to just upload it to revu? [16:24] * apachelogger generally thinks using revu for any kind of sponsoring is a reasonable good idea ;-) [16:25] * jtechidna uploads [16:26] apachelogger: exporting the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS doesn't help [16:26] apachelogger: the strange thing is that my current standard ser has this set : [16:26] DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-eRHqYGK3qz,guid=7a4d71c4e6b374fb281d157e48c11a11 [16:26] the /tmp file doesn't exist.... I must say I don't know how that works [16:27] * apachelogger finds dbus overly complex really [16:27] Tonio_: maybe some dbus guru is around in kde-devel [16:27] apachelogger: true that, I really prefered dcop..... [16:28] Tonio_: actually, wouldn't kdesu do something similar? [16:28] considering it should be able to start dolphin and konqueror [16:30] apachelogger: well sudo is :) [16:30] it should only be a matter of env variables in fact [16:30] sudo -H konqueror works like a charm for example [16:39] apachelogger: the issue is somehow due to kprocess.... [16:39] apachelogger: /usr/bin/sudo -H -S -p passprompt -- /usr/bin/kcmshell4 kdm --lang fr [16:39] apachelogger: works [16:41] apachelogger: weird.......... but I'll find a workarround [16:44] Riddell: any idea what can cause the difference ? [16:44] Riddell: /usr/bin/sudo -H -S -p passprompt -- konqueror [16:44] Riddell: that works [16:44] Riddell: kdesudo executes the same in a KProcess and that fails....... [16:49] * apachelogger is wondering if mailody fetches just the mail headers or the bodies as well [16:49] that takes quite long really [16:49] Tonio_: maybe it has something to do with the xauth command kdesudo executes? [16:49] Nightrose: I fixed akonadi-kde to depend on -server, mailody to depend on -kde and -server and -server to work properly in hopefully all possible usecases [16:50] https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all [16:50] smarter: nothing to do with xauth unfortunatelly [16:50] * Nightrose hugs apachelogger [16:50] you are the bestest :P [16:50] smarter: problem to access dbus and that's it [16:51] smarter: works for what doesn't use dbus [16:51] Tonio_: maybe kprocesses messes up the envionment vars? [16:51] try with QProcess? [16:51] or the function in c++ std libs [16:51] apachelogger: "kdesudo env" gives the same result as sudo -H -P -- env [16:51] very strange [16:51] apachelogger: true that :/ [16:52] jtechidna: suggestions for bug 217763 ? [16:52] Launchpad bug 217763 in kdebase-runtime "kde4 no system notifications sound" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217763 [16:53] * apachelogger doesn't think we can do anything about it, plus intrepid uses .kde + new phonondevicesrc anyway [16:54] yeah, I don't really think we can do much [16:54] but how to approach the actual report... [16:55] KDE screwed up in 4.0 and didn't provide a proper transition path for > 4.0.0 [16:56] We don't plan to do so either, because 4.0 is as a whole very unreliable and 4.1 in Intrepid is going to use .kde and therefore gets a new configuration file [16:56] We could also fall back to this if we're feeling really lazy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Bugs resolved after update or config change [16:56] :P [16:57] well [16:57] doesn't apply [16:57] you have t upgrade + kill your old config [16:57] though [16:58] Since we released Hardy with 4.0 in it, I feel we really should support transition if we can. [16:58] jtechidna: maybe we can fix it after all [16:58] do we know what the problem with the config file actually is? [16:59] ScottK: +1 but if it turns out to be too complicate we might as well close the report. [16:59] Agreed. [16:59] jtechidna: no, but you will ask for a working config file :P [16:59] from one of the people who uploaded a broken one [16:59] apachelogger: you said KDE didn't offer a proper transition for > 4.0.0 [16:59] I hope that just some configuration key changed in which case we could use kconf_update to fix it [16:59] did you mean > 4.0.x? [17:00] from .0 to anything later [17:01] Anyway, I think the problem is really that phonon messed up device order at first 4.0.x start and doesn't handle this very well in later versions. [17:03] Tonio_: konqueror runs fine from kdesudo here [17:05] Riddell: hu ? [17:05] Riddell: kde4 kdesudo ? [17:06] oh, it run fines here too now [17:06] wtf ????????? [17:06] * Tonio_ rebooting...... [17:06] I'm lost [17:06] maybe it's because I tried it earlier [17:06] jtechidna: do you feel like backporting some of those plasmoids you packaged? and do you have the time for it? [17:07] Tonio_: the xauth file has a timeout of 60 seconds, maybe konqueror takes longer to start? [17:07] smarter: good idea but I get the error after a couple of seconds [17:07] rebooting [17:07] Nightrose: I could probably backport some. [17:07] jtechidna: that would rock :) [17:10] Nightrose: which ones did you have in mind? [17:10] Czessi did lancelot yesterday btw [17:11] Riddell: new update-notifier-kde works great. Nice icon too [17:11] jtechidna: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=plasmoid <- teacooker, lancelot, flickr, am4rok, system-status, weather [17:12] pick whatever you have time for [17:12]