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korpiosmwhudson: And I'm done.  *Much* faster.  Thanks; I need to keep that in mind in the future!00:01
mwhudsonkorpios: cool00:01
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stefanlsdWhats the correct procedure when doing something in a PPA to test something for a specific user?  I would like to rebuild a package for him to test, but I have some other guys using my PPA and i dont particulary want them to get the package. does PPA cater for this, or should i be getting him the .debs some other way?09:10
bigjoolsyou need another PPA09:11
bigjoolsor "some other way" :)09:11
wgrantbigjools: I really think it would make more sense to allow people to customise components.09:13
bigjoolsindeed - it will happen at some point09:13
wgrantOh. Last I heard it wasn't going to happen because it was wrong or similar.09:13
bigjoolswe're going to add the ability for multiple PPAs per person first probably09:14
wgrantUm.09:14
wgrantDidn't you deliberately remove that just before they hit beta?09:14
wgrant(I'm glad it's back on the cards)09:14
NCommanderhey bigjools09:15
bigjoolshey09:15
NCommanderbigjools, how goes it09:15
NCommanderwgrant, well, if you really want to have "fun" customizing your PPA, you can upload replacement dpkgs and such with higher versions, and during the build, it should upgrade09:16
bigjoolsNCommander: great, yourself?09:17
NCommanderbigjools, I'm bootstrapping Ubuntu amd64-pie, and doing archive rebuilds09:17
NCommanderSanity is at a premium ;-)09:17
wgrantIs there a good reason for not showing links to pending PPA binary packages? They're there for deleted packages, and are easily accessible if one is able to add 1 to fairly large number... But links would be nice.09:33
bigjoolswgrant: it's hard because of the way the data model works, the binaries are not even in a "pending" state until just before publishing09:57
wgrantbigjools: Oh.09:57
wgrantIt seems odd that they're not at least linked to on the build page.09:57
bigjoolsjust wait up to 20 minutes  :)09:58
wgrantBut it's so nice having things built just a couple of minutes after uploading.09:59
bigjoolswgrant: we might increase the publishing frequency, watch this space10:01
wgrantbigjools: I was about to ask about that...10:01
wgrantSo it doesn't scale with total published package count?10:01
bigjoolswgrant: it depends on pending count10:02
wgrantRight, makes sense.10:02
wgrantSo that's why the archive gets horribly broken sometimes...10:04
bigjoolsit does?10:04
wgrantOccasionally something will go insane and several checksums will be wrong.10:04
bigjoolshmmm that's not good, do you know if it was reported?10:06
wgrantIt was.10:06
bigjoolsok10:06
wgrantIIRC the solution was to clear the apt-ftparchive cache in one instance, and reupload things in the other.10:06
Ohaiguizyayz10:10
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RAOF_Why hello there.  The xserver-xgl package has been removed from the archives.  Is there any easy way to close all bugs against it?13:55
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thekornRAOF_, you can use python-launchpad-bugs or (with a bit of hacking) launchpadlib14:15
gmbsiretart: Around?15:19
gmbsiretart: Unping, never mind.15:52
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\shbah...sometimes I hate python16:46
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siretartgmb: now I'm here18:03
gmbsiretart: Thanks; all sorted now, not to worry.18:08
gmb(plugin-related question, but I found the answer elsewhere)18:08
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eeanI'm trying to find the tags for https://code.launchpad.net/mysql-server19:25
eeanare they not there or am I just not looking correctly?19:25
eeaneg where should they be if they did exist :)19:25
beunoeean, have you tried:  bzr tags lp:mysql-server19:26
eeannope19:26
eeanI'll do so19:26
beunowait19:26
beunothat doesn't work19:26
beunoyou have to have the branch locally for that19:27
beunohm19:27
beunodo you have the branch locally?19:27
eeanno19:27
eeanactually I don't have bzr yet19:27
eeaninstalling now19:27
eeanwas wanting to see if the tag existed or not19:27
beunoyou'll have to get the branch in order to do so19:27
eean(I want 5.1-rc without all the autogenerated stuff they include in the tarball)19:27
beunowe will show tags in Loggerhead (code view) eventually, so you can see it online19:28
eeanah ok19:28
eeanwas about to ask if I should make a feature request or not19:28
beunosure you can19:28
eeanum, but if its already planned?19:29
eeanwell you have launchpad in your cloak19:29
eeanI'll take your word for it :)19:29
beunohaha19:29
beunothere's a bug for it19:29
beunolet me find it so you can subscribe19:29
eeanah19:30
beunoeean, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/24673919:30
ubottuUbuntu bug 246739 in loggerhead "tags are not available" [Wishlist,Confirmed]19:30
eeanpssh I don't care aobut it personall :)19:30
eeansuppose I shouldn't be surprised that cloning mysql is taking a long time19:38
beunoit's a big tree19:38
beunowhat version of bzr are you using?19:39
eeanlong history is the problem I'd assume19:39
eeanits not that big of a tree19:39
beunoyeah, very long history19:39
eean1.619:39
beuno1.6.1 has a big speed improvement for initial branching19:39
eeanit makes the tubes faster? ;)19:41
beunoyes, it comes lubricated19:41
beunomuch less friction19:41
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xifHi there. Launchpad's source hasn't been released yet, right?21:39
LarstiQxif: correct.21:48
xifLarstiQ: but it would be released sometime in the coming year, right?21:49
xifit's Python, I guess?21:49
LarstiQxif: that is my understanding, and yes, it's python21:50
xifLarstiQ: awesome. what's the advantage of Launchpad over other services, particularly Savannah?21:51
xifIt's the only one that supports the Bazaar vcs. what else?21:51
LarstiQxif: ehm, I'm not sure what you mean with "support", but that's hardly true.21:52
LarstiQxif: note I don't work on Launchpad nor am I employed by Canonical.21:52
xifLarstiQ: you can host bzr branches on Launchpad. I don't know that you can do that on any other service.21:53
LarstiQxif: anywhere you can upload files you can do that, and I'm rather sure Savannah supports bzr in at least that sense.21:53
LarstiQxif: but yes, for me, Launchpad is nice with the ease of use with bzr21:53
xifyeah, but you can't push to it then21:53
LarstiQxif: I also like the bugtracker more than sourceforget based solutions21:54
xifyou can host read-only branches, but it's not the same.21:54
LarstiQxif: eh?21:54
xifLarstiQ: if I can only upload files through, say, a web (browser) interface, then I can't push revisions directly to the server...21:54
xif(from bzr)21:54
LarstiQxif: pushing works just fine if you have {a,s,}ftp/ssh/etc access21:54
LarstiQxif: ah, like so.21:55
LarstiQxif: right, that is _not_ what I had in mind :)21:55
xif:)21:55
xifOK, how about compared to Savannah, which is my main alternative atm?21:55
LarstiQxif: I haven't used Savannah in earnest, you probably will get better answers from an lp person21:55
LarstiQRinchen: awake?21:56
LarstiQxif: I can point you to some information, or I can answer specific questions I have experience with :)21:57
LarstiQxif: seen https://launchpad.net/+tour ?21:57
xifLarstiQ: thanks, I'll take a look at that21:58
xifnot too many specific question21:58
xifmostly need support for AGPL, which I guess is supported?21:59
LarstiQxif: Affero GPL? yeah22:02
LarstiQxif: you can play around on staging.launchpad.net if you want22:02
xifLarstiQ: cool, guess I will.22:02
xifthanks for your advice.22:02
LarstiQxif: np22:04
* LarstiQ heads to bed, ciao22:04
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LaserJockis there any good way to "tweak" +packagebugs pages? I'd like to be able to sort for starters. For bonus points I'd like to see columns for New and Triaged23:56
wgrantLaserJock: Greasemonkey ftw.23:57
LaserJockhmm, I wonder how hard that would be23:57
LaserJockI guess an advanced search allows me to at least get individual bugs sorted, I'd like to get the numbers per package though :/23:59
mwhudsonthere's a package of launchpad greasemonkey hacks somewhere isn't there?23:59
LaserJockyeah23:59
wgrantYou could scrape the list of packages and use python-launchpad-bugs or launchpadlib directly to get the stats.23:59
wgrantmwhudson: Nothing like that, AFAIK.23:59
wgrantBut there is a set of them around.23:59

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