[00:01] <korpios> mwhudson: And I'm done.  *Much* faster.  Thanks; I need to keep that in mind in the future!
[00:01] <mwhudson> korpios: cool
[09:10] <stefanlsd> Whats the correct procedure when doing something in a PPA to test something for a specific user?  I would like to rebuild a package for him to test, but I have some other guys using my PPA and i dont particulary want them to get the package. does PPA cater for this, or should i be getting him the .debs some other way?
[09:11] <bigjools> you need another PPA
[09:11] <bigjools> or "some other way" :)
[09:13] <wgrant> bigjools: I really think it would make more sense to allow people to customise components.
[09:13] <bigjools> indeed - it will happen at some point
[09:13] <wgrant> Oh. Last I heard it wasn't going to happen because it was wrong or similar.
[09:14] <bigjools> we're going to add the ability for multiple PPAs per person first probably
[09:14] <wgrant> Um.
[09:14] <wgrant> Didn't you deliberately remove that just before they hit beta?
[09:14] <wgrant> (I'm glad it's back on the cards)
[09:15] <NCommander> hey bigjools
[09:15] <bigjools> hey
[09:15] <NCommander> bigjools, how goes it
[09:16] <NCommander> wgrant, well, if you really want to have "fun" customizing your PPA, you can upload replacement dpkgs and such with higher versions, and during the build, it should upgrade
[09:17] <bigjools> NCommander: great, yourself?
[09:17] <NCommander> bigjools, I'm bootstrapping Ubuntu amd64-pie, and doing archive rebuilds
[09:17] <NCommander> Sanity is at a premium ;-)
[09:33] <wgrant> Is there a good reason for not showing links to pending PPA binary packages? They're there for deleted packages, and are easily accessible if one is able to add 1 to fairly large number... But links would be nice.
[09:57] <bigjools> wgrant: it's hard because of the way the data model works, the binaries are not even in a "pending" state until just before publishing
[09:57] <wgrant> bigjools: Oh.
[09:57] <wgrant> It seems odd that they're not at least linked to on the build page.
[09:58] <bigjools> just wait up to 20 minutes  :)
[09:59] <wgrant> But it's so nice having things built just a couple of minutes after uploading.
[10:01] <bigjools> wgrant: we might increase the publishing frequency, watch this space
[10:01] <wgrant> bigjools: I was about to ask about that...
[10:01] <wgrant> So it doesn't scale with total published package count?
[10:02] <bigjools> wgrant: it depends on pending count
[10:02] <wgrant> Right, makes sense.
[10:04] <wgrant> So that's why the archive gets horribly broken sometimes...
[10:04] <bigjools> it does?
[10:04] <wgrant> Occasionally something will go insane and several checksums will be wrong.
[10:06] <bigjools> hmmm that's not good, do you know if it was reported?
[10:06] <wgrant> It was.
[10:06] <bigjools> ok
[10:06] <wgrant> IIRC the solution was to clear the apt-ftparchive cache in one instance, and reupload things in the other.
[10:10] <Ohaiguiz> yayz
[13:55] <RAOF_> Why hello there.  The xserver-xgl package has been removed from the archives.  Is there any easy way to close all bugs against it?
[14:15] <thekorn> RAOF_, you can use python-launchpad-bugs or (with a bit of hacking) launchpadlib
[15:19] <gmb> siretart: Around?
[15:52] <gmb> siretart: Unping, never mind.
[16:46] <\sh> bah...sometimes I hate python
[18:03] <siretart> gmb: now I'm here
[18:08] <gmb> siretart: Thanks; all sorted now, not to worry.
[18:08] <gmb> (plugin-related question, but I found the answer elsewhere)
[18:14]  * gmb -> food
[19:25] <eean> I'm trying to find the tags for https://code.launchpad.net/mysql-server
[19:25] <eean> are they not there or am I just not looking correctly?
[19:25] <eean> eg where should they be if they did exist :)
[19:26] <beuno> eean, have you tried:  bzr tags lp:mysql-server
[19:26] <eean> nope
[19:26] <eean> I'll do so
[19:26] <beuno> wait
[19:26] <beuno> that doesn't work
[19:27] <beuno> you have to have the branch locally for that
[19:27] <beuno> hm
[19:27] <beuno> do you have the branch locally?
[19:27] <eean> no
[19:27] <eean> actually I don't have bzr yet
[19:27] <eean> installing now
[19:27] <eean> was wanting to see if the tag existed or not
[19:27] <beuno> you'll have to get the branch in order to do so
[19:27] <eean> (I want 5.1-rc without all the autogenerated stuff they include in the tarball)
[19:28] <beuno> we will show tags in Loggerhead (code view) eventually, so you can see it online
[19:28] <eean> ah ok
[19:28] <eean> was about to ask if I should make a feature request or not
[19:28] <beuno> sure you can
[19:29] <eean> um, but if its already planned?
[19:29] <eean> well you have launchpad in your cloak
[19:29] <eean> I'll take your word for it :)
[19:29] <beuno> haha
[19:29] <beuno> there's a bug for it
[19:29] <beuno> let me find it so you can subscribe
[19:30] <eean> ah
[19:30] <beuno> eean, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/246739
[19:30] <eean> pssh I don't care aobut it personall :)
[19:38] <eean> suppose I shouldn't be surprised that cloning mysql is taking a long time
[19:38] <beuno> it's a big tree
[19:39] <beuno> what version of bzr are you using?
[19:39] <eean> long history is the problem I'd assume
[19:39] <eean> its not that big of a tree
[19:39] <beuno> yeah, very long history
[19:39] <eean> 1.6
[19:39] <beuno> 1.6.1 has a big speed improvement for initial branching
[19:41] <eean> it makes the tubes faster? ;)
[19:41] <beuno> yes, it comes lubricated
[19:41] <beuno> much less friction
[21:39] <xif> Hi there. Launchpad's source hasn't been released yet, right?
[21:48] <LarstiQ> xif: correct.
[21:49] <xif> LarstiQ: but it would be released sometime in the coming year, right?
[21:49] <xif> it's Python, I guess?
[21:50] <LarstiQ> xif: that is my understanding, and yes, it's python
[21:51] <xif> LarstiQ: awesome. what's the advantage of Launchpad over other services, particularly Savannah?
[21:51] <xif> It's the only one that supports the Bazaar vcs. what else?
[21:52] <LarstiQ> xif: ehm, I'm not sure what you mean with "support", but that's hardly true.
[21:52] <LarstiQ> xif: note I don't work on Launchpad nor am I employed by Canonical.
[21:53] <xif> LarstiQ: you can host bzr branches on Launchpad. I don't know that you can do that on any other service.
[21:53] <LarstiQ> xif: anywhere you can upload files you can do that, and I'm rather sure Savannah supports bzr in at least that sense.
[21:53] <LarstiQ> xif: but yes, for me, Launchpad is nice with the ease of use with bzr
[21:53] <xif> yeah, but you can't push to it then
[21:54] <LarstiQ> xif: I also like the bugtracker more than sourceforget based solutions
[21:54] <xif> you can host read-only branches, but it's not the same.
[21:54] <LarstiQ> xif: eh?
[21:54] <xif> LarstiQ: if I can only upload files through, say, a web (browser) interface, then I can't push revisions directly to the server...
[21:54] <xif> (from bzr)
[21:54] <LarstiQ> xif: pushing works just fine if you have {a,s,}ftp/ssh/etc access
[21:55] <LarstiQ> xif: ah, like so.
[21:55] <LarstiQ> xif: right, that is _not_ what I had in mind :)
[21:55] <xif> :)
[21:55] <xif> OK, how about compared to Savannah, which is my main alternative atm?
[21:55] <LarstiQ> xif: I haven't used Savannah in earnest, you probably will get better answers from an lp person
[21:56] <LarstiQ> Rinchen: awake?
[21:57] <LarstiQ> xif: I can point you to some information, or I can answer specific questions I have experience with :)
[21:57] <LarstiQ> xif: seen https://launchpad.net/+tour ?
[21:58] <xif> LarstiQ: thanks, I'll take a look at that
[21:58] <xif> not too many specific question
[21:59] <xif> mostly need support for AGPL, which I guess is supported?
[22:02] <LarstiQ> xif: Affero GPL? yeah
[22:02] <LarstiQ> xif: you can play around on staging.launchpad.net if you want
[22:02] <xif> LarstiQ: cool, guess I will.
[22:02] <xif> thanks for your advice.
[22:04] <LarstiQ> xif: np
[22:04]  * LarstiQ heads to bed, ciao
[23:56] <LaserJock> is there any good way to "tweak" +packagebugs pages? I'd like to be able to sort for starters. For bonus points I'd like to see columns for New and Triaged
[23:57] <wgrant> LaserJock: Greasemonkey ftw.
[23:57] <LaserJock> hmm, I wonder how hard that would be
[23:59] <LaserJock> I guess an advanced search allows me to at least get individual bugs sorted, I'd like to get the numbers per package though :/
[23:59] <mwhudson> there's a package of launchpad greasemonkey hacks somewhere isn't there?
[23:59] <LaserJock> yeah
[23:59] <wgrant> You could scrape the list of packages and use python-launchpad-bugs or launchpadlib directly to get the stats.
[23:59] <wgrant> mwhudson: Nothing like that, AFAIK.
[23:59] <wgrant> But there is a set of them around.