Cycom | hggdh: whatever happened, it works for me now. | 00:01 |
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Cycom | hggdh: thanks again for your help! you too bdmurray! | 00:04 |
kevjava | If a bug was reported in Hardy but isn't valid anymore in Intrepid, can I mark it as invalid? | 00:04 |
kevjava | I guess my question is that if it's a trivial, low-impact bug, then should we still track it in Hardy when it's invalid in two months anyway...? | 00:07 |
kevjava | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/211004 <-- I'm just jumping in here, and don't want to barge in and step on toes. :) | 00:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 211004 in seahorse "[hardy] seahorse-agent should only be started in GNOME session" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 00:07 |
bdmurray | kevjava: keep in mind that Hardy is an LTS release | 00:11 |
kevjava | Oh, right. So I'll leave a comment to that effect and maybe look at patching it for Hardy? | 00:12 |
* kevjava wasn't sure if a Wishlist bug would make it through sponsorship anyway | 00:13 | |
kevjava | Thanks, bdmurray. | 00:16 |
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crimsun | bdmurray: WRT sound hardware, you need codec output, really. This is normally in /proc/asound/card*/*codec* | 01:57 |
crimsun | bdmurray: barring that, for pci devices, you can glean some information (not authoritative) from `lspci -nv|grep -A1 040[13]' | 01:58 |
crimsun | bdmurray: for most usb devices, the corresponding info would be in `lsusb' | 01:59 |
crimsun | d'oh, ~ubuntu-bugcontrol membership expired | 02:01 |
nellery | looks like mine is about to too | 02:16 |
Rocket2DMn | does membership always run on a 90 day cycle, or can you have it permanently approved? | 02:24 |
nhandler | Rocket2DMn: bdmurray told me that it was always for 90 days. You can simply ping a team admin after that to have it renewed. | 02:57 |
Rocket2DMn | well i see why they do it, tho it is a bit annoying for those of us who arent going anywhere | 02:57 |
nhandler | Rocket2DMn: Most Ubuntu teams do the same thing. I believe you need to renew your MOTU membership too (but you can do it yourself). | 02:58 |
bdmurray | hggdh|away: I added in skipping np-reviewed bug reports | 04:53 |
fabrice_sp__ | Hi. I wrongly add a package to a bug (bug #262173). How can I get rid of it? | 05:16 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 262173 in javascript-common "Please sync javascript-common 4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262173 | 05:16 |
nellery | fabrice_sp__, just remove the package name from its field and save changes | 05:32 |
fabrice_sp__ | nellery: thanks | 05:34 |
nellery | fabrice_sp__, no problem | 05:35 |
crimsun | bdmurray: what procedure should I follow to be reactivated in ~ubuntu-bugcontrol? | 06:37 |
bdmurray | crimsun: I readded you for a year | 06:43 |
crimsun | bdmurray: thanks! | 06:46 |
dholbach | gooood morning | 07:13 |
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thekorn | good morning bugsquad | 07:55 |
mp | Now I have to ask: | 08:06 |
mp | WHY do I always get the invitation to a Hug Day one day too late?! | 08:07 |
mp | (it's through ubuntu-devel-annouce) | 08:07 |
mp | I would like to help, but it's always a turnoff to be late :( | 08:08 |
Hobbsee | mp: because it's a moderated list, and people don't go thru it much. | 08:17 |
* Hobbsee wonders if listadmin is finished yet | 08:17 | |
mp | Hobbsee okay, thanks | 08:38 |
mp | I hope for some kind of improvement in the future :) | 08:39 |
mp | Then I guess I'll just do a bit of hugging now... | 08:39 |
Hobbsee | er, fixed. not finished. | 08:42 |
Hobbsee | yes it has... | 08:43 |
* Hobbsee goes through the moderation queue of ubuntu-devel. | 08:45 | |
mp | Hobbsee, what does that mean? | 08:59 |
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Hobbsee | ligemeget: there's a queue - people can't post whatever they like to some of the mailing lists | 09:02 |
Hobbsee | ie, subscribers only, or you have to be in certain teams. | 09:02 |
Hobbsee | so they get caught up in the queue, which people manually go through. | 09:02 |
ligemeget | ...and the listadmin? | 09:03 |
ligemeget | fixed? | 09:03 |
Hobbsee | seems so. | 09:04 |
Hobbsee | it was working here | 09:04 |
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jcastro | pedro_: ok so much for that. | 14:15 |
pedro_ | haha | 14:16 |
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hggdh | bdmurray, want me to document np-reviewed on the wiki? | 14:29 |
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Hew | Bug 191389 is marked fix committed, but I'm not sure where the fix is. It looks like it's in gst-plugins-good upstream, but a new release (0.10.10-1) was made a few days ago, and the problem still hasn't been fixed. Anyone know if this really should be fix committed? | 15:21 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 191389 in rhythmbox "FLAC tags cannot be edited" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191389 | 15:21 |
hggdh | Hew, fcould you please check the changelog for gstreamer plugins? | 15:24 |
hggdh | gstreamer-plugins is marked as having being fixed upstream, but not rithmbox... | 15:25 |
Hew | hggdh: I can see the change in the upstream changelog | 15:45 |
Hew | gstreamer0.10-plugins-good upstream that is, on 2008-08-06 by Sebastian: http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good/ChangeLog?view=markup | 15:48 |
Hew | which was described at the bug here http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413841 | 15:48 |
ubottu | Gnome bug 413841 in gst-plugins-good "[flactag] needs porting to 0.10.x" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] | 15:49 |
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hggdh | Hew, can you also see the change in our gstreamer plugins? | 15:53 |
hggdh | if you cannot... then it is still to be done | 15:54 |
Hew | hggdh: There isn't anywhere near that level of detail, it just says new upstream release. | 15:54 |
hggdh | Hew, look at the changelog there. I will have reflected upstream's | 15:55 |
hggdh | s/I/It/ | 15:55 |
hggdh | plus whatever local changes were done | 15:56 |
hggdh | I mean, not the distribution's changelog, but upstream's *in* our dist | 15:57 |
Hew | hggdh: My apologies, I'm not sure what part you're referring to. It looks like Ubuntu is just grabbing the Debian packages. Where can I find these upstream changelogs in Ubuntu? | 15:58 |
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hggdh | Hew, I am downloading the source now. Give me a few to look at it | 15:59 |
Hew | hggdh: Ok, thanks. The only changelog I could see is this http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/gst-plugins-good0.10/gst-plugins-good0.10_0.10.10-1/changelog . Would I have to download the source to find this Ubuntu upstream changelog? | 16:00 |
hggdh | Hew, this is the ./debian/changelog | 16:02 |
hggdh | the ones I mean are in the source, perhaps under many different directories | 16:02 |
hggdh | for example, ./gst-plugins-good0.10-0.10.10/Changelog | 16:03 |
Hew | hggdh: Ah ok, thanks. I'll have a look now, but I'll know for next time :-) | 16:03 |
hggdh | (I got the source first by 'apt-get source gstreamer0.10-plugins-good) | 16:03 |
afflux | for some packages, the changelog is installed with the binary package: /usr/share/doc/$pkgname/changelog.gz | 16:04 |
Hew | thanks again, was a bit rusty on what the command was | 16:04 |
Hew | afflux: Thank you! I'm learning a lot tonight haha. | 16:04 |
afflux | you're welcome ;) | 16:05 |
hggdh | thanks, afflux, I should have mentioned it | 16:05 |
afflux | (note that I'm not quite sure how it's handled: I've the impression that sometimes, if no upstream changelog is installed, changelog.gz actually contains the debian/changelog) | 16:05 |
hggdh | and there may be more than one single changelog | 16:06 |
hggdh | Hew, BTW I do not see 431841 referenced anywhere is the sources (by a 'grep -R 431841 *') | 16:06 |
bdmurray | hggdh: do you mean document the tag? | 16:09 |
hggdh | bdmurray, yes | 16:12 |
hggdh | (but I am unsure if we should, right now) | 16:12 |
bdmurray | Yeah, I'd prefer to document the process first. ;) | 16:13 |
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bdmurray | well and setup the report to get generated regularly | 16:13 |
hggdh | we wait, then. Also, there might be other similar tags to implement | 16:13 |
hggdh | bdmurray, currently you are producing a .txt -- are you going to produce a linkable page? | 16:14 |
hggdh | (at least on Epiphany) | 16:14 |
bdmurray | Yeah, I guess I could do that too | 16:15 |
hggdh | bdmurray, sorry to provide you with Yet Another Request (TM) ;-) | 16:16 |
bdmurray | It's a fair one, I just happen to view it in my favorite text editor and the the links become clickable. | 16:17 |
bdmurray | But html makes sense | 16:17 |
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vinu76jsr | my hardy sometimes does not play video, any video , and when i restart X it is ok again | 16:44 |
vinu76jsr | is it a bug?? or something wrong with my config | 16:45 |
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alejandeus | Hello ppl | 17:22 |
alejandeus | anyone got any news on when alpha 5 will be available? | 17:23 |
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sbeattie | wha-hunh? why is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/112514 against l-r-m? | 18:31 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 112514 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "Firefox Menu Font Size Is To Large" [Low,Confirmed] | 18:31 |
sbeattie | oh, nevermind, possible driver issue | 18:32 |
jcastro | pedro_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/ | 19:01 |
jcastro | how's that for attention grabbing? | 19:01 |
pedro_ | wow that's big | 19:02 |
pedro_ | it definitely will grab your attention :-P | 19:02 |
jcastro | heh | 19:02 |
jcastro | well, I figure, start like this, and see how it goes | 19:03 |
jcastro | I will work on this page and try to make it easier | 19:03 |
jcastro | if you want to start hitting up Report | 19:03 |
pedro_ | yeah indeed | 19:03 |
pedro_ | alright ;-) | 19:03 |
pwnguin | bdmurray: have you found any invalid configs yet/ | 19:54 |
pwnguin | xorg.conf | 19:54 |
bdmurray | 8 | 19:55 |
pwnguin | i worry a bit; the main testing data for xkit was LP | 19:55 |
bdmurray | worry that it won't catch everything? | 19:57 |
pwnguin | well, if you just pull the entire archive and assume it's good | 19:58 |
pwnguin | what was the invalid tag? | 19:59 |
bdmurray | Its in Bugs/Tags | 19:59 |
bdmurray | but it is invalid-xorg-conf | 19:59 |
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komputes | Bug #185470 | 20:06 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 185470 in linux "iwl3945 not functioning : microcode error" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185470 | 20:06 |
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bdmurray | hggdh: http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/reports/needs-packaging/needs-packaging-run-2008-9-5.html | 21:26 |
hggdh | bdmurray, thanks | 21:31 |
hggdh | bdmurray, perfect! | 21:33 |
bdmurray | hggdh: if you happen to update any by adding a watch or marking fix released please tag them 'auto-search'. I'm just tryin to get track of the quantity found by the tool. | 21:33 |
bdmurray | s/tryin to get/trying to keep/ | 21:34 |
hggdh | kees, will do | 21:35 |
hggdh | kees, will do | 21:35 |
hggdh | dammit | 21:35 |
bdmurray | heh | 21:35 |
hggdh | OK will do | 21:35 |
hggdh | sorry kees | 21:35 |
kees | attack of the up arrow. :) | 21:36 |
hggdh | :-) | 21:36 |
bdmurray | I saw that movie! | 21:36 |
hggdh | hum... you might want to add "please tag 'auto-search' any bugs updated via this page' at the top, just in case | 21:37 |
hggdh | bdmurray, what should be done with a np that points to a non-existent source? c.f. bug 230400 | 21:59 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 230400 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] xnp2" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230400 | 21:59 |
bdmurray | hggdh: seems invalid to me | 22:03 |
bdmurray | the reporter of that bug submitted quite a few n-p bugs for projects in Launchpad some of which have released no code | 22:03 |
hggdh | so I will just close invalid | 22:10 |
bdmurray | hggdh: that sounds good to me | 22:10 |
bdmurray | no need to tag it though ;) | 22:10 |
hggdh | too late ;-) | 22:12 |
hggdh | it is still a case of found via tool, though | 22:12 |
pwnguin | it seems like they meant rfp rather than NP | 22:18 |
pwnguin | is invalid realy the right state for requests for packaging/ | 22:19 |
hggdh | pwnguin, depends. Which bug are you talking about? | 22:19 |
hggdh | keep in mind there are two possible final states for NP: INVALID, or FIX RELEASED... | 22:20 |
hggdh | (and, in fact, for most bugs) | 22:20 |
pwnguin | ok, no code released upstream, i can see | 22:21 |
pwnguin | crazy. gentoo has an xnp2 package | 22:22 |
pwnguin | unfortunately, i dont read japanese well | 22:23 |
hggdh | pwnguin, it might even be the same thing, or not. Since all we have is what the reporter, huh, reported, we have to stop there. | 22:24 |
pwnguin | it is the same thing | 22:25 |
pwnguin | however | 22:25 |
pwnguin | the source code is gone | 22:25 |
pwnguin | anyways, i misread something in the conversation above. carry on ;) | 22:27 |
Ampelbein | hggdh: wouldn't it be an option to set needs-packaging-bugs that cannot be resolved due to licensing problems to "won't fix"? | 22:30 |
Ampelbein | (not connected to the actual case) | 22:30 |
hggdh | Ampelbein, I am not sure, but I do not think it would be a correct usage of WONT FIX. If the licence is bad, then it is invalid for us. WONT FIX means we *could* do it, but decided not to. bdmurray, what about it? | 22:35 |
Ampelbein | hggdh: the bugfix (=packaging) is too controversial since the license is not appropriate. so won't fix would fit. but i'm okay with invalid. i don't think it is that important. | 22:38 |
bdmurray | Yeah, it doesn't seem that important to me but I'd go with Won't Fix too as it could become Will Fix if the license change. | 22:40 |
hggdh | so WONT FIX it is. | 22:42 |
jarlath | How do I find out which package a file belongs to? | 23:08 |
afflux | jarlath: either use packages.ubuntu.com or dpkg -S | 23:09 |
jarlath | Thanks afflux | 23:09 |
dupondje | NetworkManager is a disaster :( | 23:31 |
dupondje | saving settings still not fixed :( | 23:31 |
emgent`nl | there are more problem, in intepid if dont put down it NetworkManager Daemon, you _cant connect_ via iwconfig/ifconfig | 23:34 |
emgent`nl | s/problem/problems/ | 23:34 |
emgent`nl | s/it// | 23:34 |
dupondje | the NetworkManager is bugged like hell :( | 23:36 |
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