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Cycomhggdh: whatever happened, it works for me now.00:01
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Cycomhggdh: thanks again for your help! you too bdmurray!00:04
kevjavaIf a bug was reported in Hardy but isn't valid anymore in Intrepid, can I mark it as invalid?00:04
kevjavaI guess my question is that if it's a trivial, low-impact bug, then should we still track it in Hardy when it's invalid in two months anyway...?00:07
kevjavahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/211004  <-- I'm just jumping in here, and don't want to barge in and step on toes. :)00:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 211004 in seahorse "[hardy] seahorse-agent should only be started in GNOME session" [Wishlist,Confirmed]00:07
bdmurraykevjava: keep in mind that Hardy is an LTS release00:11
kevjavaOh, right.  So I'll leave a comment to that effect and maybe look at patching it for Hardy?00:12
* kevjava wasn't sure if a Wishlist bug would make it through sponsorship anyway00:13
kevjavaThanks, bdmurray.00:16
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crimsunbdmurray: WRT sound hardware, you need codec output, really.  This is normally in /proc/asound/card*/*codec*01:57
crimsunbdmurray: barring that, for pci devices, you can glean some information (not authoritative) from `lspci -nv|grep -A1 040[13]'01:58
crimsunbdmurray: for most usb devices, the corresponding info would be in `lsusb'01:59
crimsund'oh, ~ubuntu-bugcontrol membership expired02:01
nellerylooks like mine is about to too02:16
Rocket2DMndoes membership always run on a 90 day cycle, or can you have it permanently approved?02:24
nhandlerRocket2DMn: bdmurray told me that it was always for 90 days. You can simply ping a team admin after that to have it renewed.02:57
Rocket2DMnwell i see why they do it, tho it is a bit annoying for those of us who arent going anywhere02:57
nhandlerRocket2DMn: Most Ubuntu teams do the same thing. I believe you need to renew your MOTU membership too (but you can do it yourself).02:58
bdmurrayhggdh|away: I added in skipping np-reviewed bug reports04:53
fabrice_sp__Hi. I wrongly add a package to a bug (bug #262173). How can I get rid of it?05:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 262173 in javascript-common "Please sync javascript-common 4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26217305:16
nelleryfabrice_sp__, just remove the package name from its field and save changes05:32
fabrice_sp__nellery: thanks05:34
nelleryfabrice_sp__, no problem05:35
crimsunbdmurray: what procedure should I follow to be reactivated in ~ubuntu-bugcontrol?06:37
bdmurraycrimsun: I readded you for a year06:43
crimsunbdmurray: thanks!06:46
dholbachgooood morning07:13
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thekorngood morning bugsquad07:55
mpNow I have to ask:08:06
mpWHY do I always get the invitation to a Hug Day one day too late?!08:07
mp(it's through ubuntu-devel-annouce)08:07
mpI would like to help, but it's always a turnoff to be late :(08:08
Hobbseemp: because it's a moderated list, and people don't go thru it much.08:17
* Hobbsee wonders if listadmin is finished yet08:17
mpHobbsee okay, thanks08:38
mpI hope for some kind of improvement in the future :)08:39
mpThen I guess I'll just do a bit of hugging now...08:39
Hobbseeer, fixed.  not finished.08:42
Hobbseeyes it has...08:43
* Hobbsee goes through the moderation queue of ubuntu-devel.08:45
mpHobbsee, what does that mean?08:59
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Hobbseeligemeget: there's a queue - people can't post whatever they like to some of the mailing lists09:02
Hobbseeie, subscribers only, or you have to be in certain teams.09:02
Hobbseeso they get caught up in the queue, which people manually go through.09:02
ligemeget...and the listadmin?09:03
ligemegetfixed?09:03
Hobbseeseems so.09:04
Hobbseeit was working here09:04
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jcastropedro_: ok so much for that.14:15
pedro_haha14:16
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hggdhbdmurray, want me to document np-reviewed on the wiki?14:29
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HewBug 191389 is marked fix committed, but I'm not sure where the fix is. It looks like it's in gst-plugins-good upstream, but a new release (0.10.10-1) was made a few days ago, and the problem still hasn't been fixed. Anyone know if this really should be fix committed?15:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 191389 in rhythmbox "FLAC tags cannot be edited" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19138915:21
hggdhHew, fcould you please check the changelog for gstreamer plugins?15:24
hggdhgstreamer-plugins is marked as having being fixed upstream, but not rithmbox...15:25
Hewhggdh: I can see the change in the upstream changelog15:45
Hewgstreamer0.10-plugins-good upstream that is, on 2008-08-06 by Sebastian: http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good/ChangeLog?view=markup15:48
Hewwhich was described at the bug here http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41384115:48
ubottuGnome bug 413841 in gst-plugins-good "[flactag] needs porting to 0.10.x" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed]15:49
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hggdhHew, can you also see the change in our gstreamer plugins?15:53
hggdhif you cannot... then it is still to be done15:54
Hewhggdh: There isn't anywhere near that level of detail, it just says new upstream release.15:54
hggdhHew, look at the changelog there. I will have reflected upstream's15:55
hggdhs/I/It/15:55
hggdhplus whatever local changes were done15:56
hggdhI mean, not the distribution's changelog, but upstream's *in* our dist15:57
Hewhggdh: My apologies, I'm not sure what part you're referring to. It looks like Ubuntu is just grabbing the Debian packages. Where can I find these upstream changelogs in Ubuntu?15:58
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hggdhHew, I am downloading the source now. Give me a few to look at it15:59
Hewhggdh: Ok, thanks. The only changelog I could see is this http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/gst-plugins-good0.10/gst-plugins-good0.10_0.10.10-1/changelog . Would I have to download the source to find this Ubuntu upstream changelog?16:00
hggdhHew, this is the ./debian/changelog16:02
hggdhthe ones I mean are in the source, perhaps under many different directories16:02
hggdhfor example, ./gst-plugins-good0.10-0.10.10/Changelog16:03
Hewhggdh: Ah ok, thanks. I'll have a look now, but I'll know for next time :-)16:03
hggdh(I got the source first by 'apt-get source gstreamer0.10-plugins-good)16:03
affluxfor some packages, the changelog is installed with the binary package: /usr/share/doc/$pkgname/changelog.gz16:04
Hewthanks again, was a bit rusty on what the command was16:04
Hewafflux: Thank you! I'm learning a lot tonight haha.16:04
affluxyou're welcome ;)16:05
hggdhthanks, afflux, I should have mentioned it16:05
afflux(note that I'm not quite sure how it's handled: I've the impression that sometimes, if no upstream changelog is installed, changelog.gz actually contains the debian/changelog)16:05
hggdhand there may be more than one single changelog16:06
hggdhHew, BTW I do not see 431841 referenced anywhere is the sources (by a 'grep -R 431841 *')16:06
bdmurrayhggdh: do you mean document the tag?16:09
hggdhbdmurray, yes16:12
hggdh(but I am unsure if we should, right now)16:12
bdmurrayYeah, I'd prefer to document the process first. ;)16:13
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bdmurraywell and setup the report to get generated regularly16:13
hggdhwe wait, then. Also, there might be other similar tags to implement16:13
hggdhbdmurray, currently you are producing a .txt -- are you going to produce a linkable page?16:14
hggdh(at least on Epiphany)16:14
bdmurrayYeah, I guess I could do that too16:15
hggdhbdmurray, sorry to provide you with Yet Another Request (TM) ;-)16:16
bdmurrayIt's a fair one, I just happen to view it in my favorite text editor and the the links become clickable.16:17
bdmurrayBut html makes sense16:17
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vinu76jsrmy hardy  sometimes does not play video, any video , and when i restart X it is ok again16:44
vinu76jsris it a bug?? or something wrong with my config16:45
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alejandeusHello ppl17:22
alejandeusanyone got any news on when alpha 5 will be available?17:23
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sbeattiewha-hunh? why is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/112514 against l-r-m?18:31
ubottuUbuntu bug 112514 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "Firefox Menu Font Size Is To Large" [Low,Confirmed]18:31
sbeattieoh, nevermind, possible driver issue18:32
jcastropedro_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/19:01
jcastrohow's that for attention grabbing?19:01
pedro_wow that's big19:02
pedro_it definitely will grab your attention :-P19:02
jcastroheh19:02
jcastrowell, I figure, start like this, and see how it goes19:03
jcastroI will work on this page and try to make it easier19:03
jcastroif you want to start hitting up Report19:03
pedro_yeah indeed19:03
pedro_alright ;-)19:03
pwnguinbdmurray: have you found any invalid configs yet/19:54
pwnguinxorg.conf19:54
bdmurray819:55
pwnguini worry a bit; the main testing data for xkit was LP19:55
bdmurrayworry that it won't catch everything?19:57
pwnguinwell, if you just pull the entire archive and assume it's good19:58
pwnguinwhat was the invalid tag?19:59
bdmurrayIts in Bugs/Tags19:59
bdmurraybut it is invalid-xorg-conf19:59
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komputesBug #18547020:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 185470 in linux "iwl3945 not functioning : microcode error" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18547020:06
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bdmurrayhggdh: http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/reports/needs-packaging/needs-packaging-run-2008-9-5.html21:26
hggdhbdmurray, thanks21:31
hggdhbdmurray, perfect!21:33
bdmurrayhggdh: if you happen to update any by adding a watch or marking fix released please tag them 'auto-search'.  I'm just tryin to get track of the quantity found by the tool.21:33
bdmurrays/tryin to get/trying to keep/21:34
hggdhkees, will do21:35
hggdhkees, will do21:35
hggdhdammit21:35
bdmurrayheh21:35
hggdhOK will do21:35
hggdhsorry kees21:35
keesattack of the up arrow.  :)21:36
hggdh:-)21:36
bdmurrayI saw that movie!21:36
hggdhhum... you might want to add "please tag 'auto-search' any bugs updated via this page' at the top, just in case21:37
hggdhbdmurray, what should be done with a np that points to a non-existent source? c.f. bug 23040021:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 230400 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] xnp2" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23040021:59
bdmurrayhggdh: seems invalid to me22:03
bdmurraythe reporter of that bug submitted quite a few n-p bugs for projects in Launchpad some of which have released no code22:03
hggdhso I will just close invalid22:10
bdmurrayhggdh: that sounds good to me22:10
bdmurrayno need to tag it though ;)22:10
hggdhtoo late ;-)22:12
hggdhit is still a case of found via tool, though22:12
pwnguin it seems like they meant rfp rather than NP22:18
pwnguinis invalid realy the right state for requests for packaging/22:19
hggdhpwnguin, depends. Which bug are you talking about?22:19
hggdhkeep in mind there are two possible final states for NP: INVALID, or FIX RELEASED...22:20
hggdh(and, in fact, for most bugs)22:20
pwnguinok, no code released upstream, i can see22:21
pwnguincrazy. gentoo has an xnp2 package22:22
pwnguinunfortunately, i dont read japanese well22:23
hggdhpwnguin, it might even be the same thing, or not. Since all we have is what the reporter, huh, reported, we have to stop there.22:24
pwnguinit is the same thing22:25
pwnguinhowever22:25
pwnguinthe source code is gone22:25
pwnguinanyways, i misread something in the conversation above. carry on ;)22:27
Ampelbeinhggdh: wouldn't it be an option to set needs-packaging-bugs that cannot be resolved due to licensing problems to "won't fix"?22:30
Ampelbein(not connected to the actual case)22:30
hggdhAmpelbein, I am not sure, but I do not  think it would be a correct usage of WONT FIX. If the licence is bad, then it is invalid for us. WONT FIX means we *could* do it, but decided not to.  bdmurray, what about it?22:35
Ampelbeinhggdh: the bugfix (=packaging) is too controversial since the license is not appropriate. so won't fix would fit. but i'm okay with invalid. i don't think it is that important.22:38
bdmurrayYeah, it doesn't seem that important to me but I'd go with Won't Fix too as it could become Will Fix if the license change.22:40
hggdhso WONT FIX it is.22:42
jarlathHow do I find out which package a file belongs to?23:08
affluxjarlath: either use packages.ubuntu.com or dpkg -S23:09
jarlathThanks afflux23:09
dupondjeNetworkManager is a disaster :(23:31
dupondjesaving settings still not fixed :(23:31
emgent`nlthere are more problem, in intepid if dont put down it NetworkManager Daemon, you _cant connect_ via iwconfig/ifconfig23:34
emgent`nls/problem/problems/23:34
emgent`nls/it//23:34
dupondjethe NetworkManager is bugged like hell :(23:36

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