[00:01] hggdh: whatever happened, it works for me now. === eddie is now known as Guest88090 [00:04] hggdh: thanks again for your help! you too bdmurray! [00:04] If a bug was reported in Hardy but isn't valid anymore in Intrepid, can I mark it as invalid? [00:07] I guess my question is that if it's a trivial, low-impact bug, then should we still track it in Hardy when it's invalid in two months anyway...? [00:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/211004 <-- I'm just jumping in here, and don't want to barge in and step on toes. :) [00:07] Launchpad bug 211004 in seahorse "[hardy] seahorse-agent should only be started in GNOME session" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [00:11] kevjava: keep in mind that Hardy is an LTS release [00:12] Oh, right. So I'll leave a comment to that effect and maybe look at patching it for Hardy? [00:13] * kevjava wasn't sure if a Wishlist bug would make it through sponsorship anyway [00:16] Thanks, bdmurray. === BaD-Lapt1p is now known as BaD-Laptop === hggdh is now known as hggdh|away [01:57] bdmurray: WRT sound hardware, you need codec output, really. This is normally in /proc/asound/card*/*codec* [01:58] bdmurray: barring that, for pci devices, you can glean some information (not authoritative) from `lspci -nv|grep -A1 040[13]' [01:59] bdmurray: for most usb devices, the corresponding info would be in `lsusb' [02:01] d'oh, ~ubuntu-bugcontrol membership expired [02:16] looks like mine is about to too [02:24] does membership always run on a 90 day cycle, or can you have it permanently approved? [02:57] Rocket2DMn: bdmurray told me that it was always for 90 days. You can simply ping a team admin after that to have it renewed. [02:57] well i see why they do it, tho it is a bit annoying for those of us who arent going anywhere [02:58] Rocket2DMn: Most Ubuntu teams do the same thing. I believe you need to renew your MOTU membership too (but you can do it yourself). [04:53] hggdh|away: I added in skipping np-reviewed bug reports [05:16] Hi. I wrongly add a package to a bug (bug #262173). How can I get rid of it? [05:16] Launchpad bug 262173 in javascript-common "Please sync javascript-common 4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262173 [05:32] fabrice_sp__, just remove the package name from its field and save changes [05:34] nellery: thanks [05:35] fabrice_sp__, no problem [06:37] bdmurray: what procedure should I follow to be reactivated in ~ubuntu-bugcontrol? [06:43] crimsun: I readded you for a year [06:46] bdmurray: thanks! [07:13] gooood morning === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [07:55] good morning bugsquad [08:06] Now I have to ask: [08:07] WHY do I always get the invitation to a Hug Day one day too late?! [08:07] (it's through ubuntu-devel-annouce) [08:08] I would like to help, but it's always a turnoff to be late :( [08:17] mp: because it's a moderated list, and people don't go thru it much. [08:17] * Hobbsee wonders if listadmin is finished yet [08:38] Hobbsee okay, thanks [08:39] I hope for some kind of improvement in the future :) [08:39] Then I guess I'll just do a bit of hugging now... [08:42] er, fixed. not finished. [08:43] yes it has... [08:45] * Hobbsee goes through the moderation queue of ubuntu-devel. [08:59] Hobbsee, what does that mean? === mp is now known as ligemeget [09:02] ligemeget: there's a queue - people can't post whatever they like to some of the mailing lists [09:02] ie, subscribers only, or you have to be in certain teams. [09:02] so they get caught up in the queue, which people manually go through. [09:03] ...and the listadmin? [09:03] fixed? [09:04] seems so. [09:04] it was working here === mvo__ is now known as mvo === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === _Old_Solider is now known as Old_Soldier === asac_ is now known as asac [14:15] pedro_: ok so much for that. [14:16] haha === hggdh|away is now known as hggdh [14:29] bdmurray, want me to document np-reviewed on the wiki? === blan_ is now known as blan [15:21] Bug 191389 is marked fix committed, but I'm not sure where the fix is. It looks like it's in gst-plugins-good upstream, but a new release (0.10.10-1) was made a few days ago, and the problem still hasn't been fixed. Anyone know if this really should be fix committed? [15:21] Launchpad bug 191389 in rhythmbox "FLAC tags cannot be edited" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191389 [15:24] Hew, fcould you please check the changelog for gstreamer plugins? [15:25] gstreamer-plugins is marked as having being fixed upstream, but not rithmbox... [15:45] hggdh: I can see the change in the upstream changelog [15:48] gstreamer0.10-plugins-good upstream that is, on 2008-08-06 by Sebastian: http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good/ChangeLog?view=markup [15:48] which was described at the bug here http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413841 [15:49] Gnome bug 413841 in gst-plugins-good "[flactag] needs porting to 0.10.x" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] === LucidFox_ is now known as LucidFox [15:53] Hew, can you also see the change in our gstreamer plugins? [15:54] if you cannot... then it is still to be done [15:54] hggdh: There isn't anywhere near that level of detail, it just says new upstream release. [15:55] Hew, look at the changelog there. I will have reflected upstream's [15:55] s/I/It/ [15:56] plus whatever local changes were done [15:57] I mean, not the distribution's changelog, but upstream's *in* our dist [15:58] hggdh: My apologies, I'm not sure what part you're referring to. It looks like Ubuntu is just grabbing the Debian packages. Where can I find these upstream changelogs in Ubuntu? === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [15:59] Hew, I am downloading the source now. Give me a few to look at it [16:00] hggdh: Ok, thanks. The only changelog I could see is this http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/gst-plugins-good0.10/gst-plugins-good0.10_0.10.10-1/changelog . Would I have to download the source to find this Ubuntu upstream changelog? [16:02] Hew, this is the ./debian/changelog [16:02] the ones I mean are in the source, perhaps under many different directories [16:03] for example, ./gst-plugins-good0.10-0.10.10/Changelog [16:03] hggdh: Ah ok, thanks. I'll have a look now, but I'll know for next time :-) [16:03] (I got the source first by 'apt-get source gstreamer0.10-plugins-good) [16:04] for some packages, the changelog is installed with the binary package: /usr/share/doc/$pkgname/changelog.gz [16:04] thanks again, was a bit rusty on what the command was [16:04] afflux: Thank you! I'm learning a lot tonight haha. [16:05] you're welcome ;) [16:05] thanks, afflux, I should have mentioned it [16:05] (note that I'm not quite sure how it's handled: I've the impression that sometimes, if no upstream changelog is installed, changelog.gz actually contains the debian/changelog) [16:06] and there may be more than one single changelog [16:06] Hew, BTW I do not see 431841 referenced anywhere is the sources (by a 'grep -R 431841 *') [16:09] hggdh: do you mean document the tag? [16:12] bdmurray, yes [16:12] (but I am unsure if we should, right now) [16:13] Yeah, I'd prefer to document the process first. ;) === eddie is now known as Guest38717 [16:13] well and setup the report to get generated regularly [16:13] we wait, then. Also, there might be other similar tags to implement [16:14] bdmurray, currently you are producing a .txt -- are you going to produce a linkable page? [16:14] (at least on Epiphany) [16:15] Yeah, I guess I could do that too [16:16] bdmurray, sorry to provide you with Yet Another Request (TM) ;-) [16:17] It's a fair one, I just happen to view it in my favorite text editor and the the links become clickable. [16:17] But html makes sense === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [16:44] my hardy sometimes does not play video, any video , and when i restart X it is ok again [16:45] is it a bug?? or something wrong with my config === eddie is now known as Guest37072 [17:22] Hello ppl [17:23] anyone got any news on when alpha 5 will be available? === heno_ is now known as heno [18:31] wha-hunh? why is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/112514 against l-r-m? [18:31] Ubuntu bug 112514 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "Firefox Menu Font Size Is To Large" [Low,Confirmed] [18:32] oh, nevermind, possible driver issue [19:01] pedro_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/ [19:01] how's that for attention grabbing? [19:02] wow that's big [19:02] it definitely will grab your attention :-P [19:02] heh [19:03] well, I figure, start like this, and see how it goes [19:03] I will work on this page and try to make it easier [19:03] if you want to start hitting up Report [19:03] yeah indeed [19:03] alright ;-) [19:54] bdmurray: have you found any invalid configs yet/ [19:54] xorg.conf [19:55] 8 [19:55] i worry a bit; the main testing data for xkit was LP [19:57] worry that it won't catch everything? [19:58] well, if you just pull the entire archive and assume it's good [19:59] what was the invalid tag? [19:59] Its in Bugs/Tags [19:59] but it is invalid-xorg-conf === mcas is now known as mcas_away [20:06] Bug #185470 [20:06] Launchpad bug 185470 in linux "iwl3945 not functioning : microcode error" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185470 === mcas_away is now known as mcas [21:26] hggdh: http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/reports/needs-packaging/needs-packaging-run-2008-9-5.html [21:31] bdmurray, thanks [21:33] bdmurray, perfect! [21:33] hggdh: if you happen to update any by adding a watch or marking fix released please tag them 'auto-search'. I'm just tryin to get track of the quantity found by the tool. [21:34] s/tryin to get/trying to keep/ [21:35] kees, will do [21:35] kees, will do [21:35] dammit [21:35] heh [21:35] OK will do [21:35] sorry kees [21:36] attack of the up arrow. :) [21:36] :-) [21:36] I saw that movie! [21:37] hum... you might want to add "please tag 'auto-search' any bugs updated via this page' at the top, just in case [21:59] bdmurray, what should be done with a np that points to a non-existent source? c.f. bug 230400 [21:59] Launchpad bug 230400 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] xnp2" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230400 [22:03] hggdh: seems invalid to me [22:03] the reporter of that bug submitted quite a few n-p bugs for projects in Launchpad some of which have released no code [22:10] so I will just close invalid [22:10] hggdh: that sounds good to me [22:10] no need to tag it though ;) [22:12] too late ;-) [22:12] it is still a case of found via tool, though [22:18] it seems like they meant rfp rather than NP [22:19] is invalid realy the right state for requests for packaging/ [22:19] pwnguin, depends. Which bug are you talking about? [22:20] keep in mind there are two possible final states for NP: INVALID, or FIX RELEASED... [22:20] (and, in fact, for most bugs) [22:21] ok, no code released upstream, i can see [22:22] crazy. gentoo has an xnp2 package [22:23] unfortunately, i dont read japanese well [22:24] pwnguin, it might even be the same thing, or not. Since all we have is what the reporter, huh, reported, we have to stop there. [22:25] it is the same thing [22:25] however [22:25] the source code is gone [22:27] anyways, i misread something in the conversation above. carry on ;) [22:30] hggdh: wouldn't it be an option to set needs-packaging-bugs that cannot be resolved due to licensing problems to "won't fix"? [22:30] (not connected to the actual case) [22:35] Ampelbein, I am not sure, but I do not think it would be a correct usage of WONT FIX. If the licence is bad, then it is invalid for us. WONT FIX means we *could* do it, but decided not to. bdmurray, what about it? [22:38] hggdh: the bugfix (=packaging) is too controversial since the license is not appropriate. so won't fix would fit. but i'm okay with invalid. i don't think it is that important. [22:40] Yeah, it doesn't seem that important to me but I'd go with Won't Fix too as it could become Will Fix if the license change. [22:42] so WONT FIX it is. [23:08] How do I find out which package a file belongs to? [23:09] jarlath: either use packages.ubuntu.com or dpkg -S [23:09] Thanks afflux [23:31] NetworkManager is a disaster :( [23:31] saving settings still not fixed :( [23:34] there are more problem, in intepid if dont put down it NetworkManager Daemon, you _cant connect_ via iwconfig/ifconfig [23:34] s/problem/problems/ [23:34] s/it// [23:36] the NetworkManager is bugged like hell :(