smp4488 | what gps software are you all planning on using? | 03:32 |
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smp4488 | so i was messing with ubuntu-mobile now my gnome theme has huge font and all the windows | 07:32 |
smp4488 | got it just removed everything moblin, matchbox, and ubuntu-mobile, restarted x and it was all good | 07:43 |
ogra | lool, i must admit i didnt compile that list yet | 09:25 |
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lool | amitk: Sorry, missed you earlier message; I think we could go for unionfs | 11:00 |
lool | amitk: Anyway it's clear we're moving from 2.6.26 to 2.6.27 | 11:01 |
lool | amitk: Feel free to do the aufs fixes in ubuntu-intrepid first and to pull them in linux-lpia | 11:01 |
lool | StevenK: Do you think you could append union=unionfs to the isolinux.cfg kernel cmdline? | 11:02 |
amitk | lool: ok. Then I should have an upload for lpia today. | 11:09 |
lool | amitk: Will you need sponsoring? | 11:11 |
amitk | lool: yeah. I'll ping you if kernel team isn't online by then. | 11:17 |
amitk | lool: StevenK: who are these image meant for? I need to port the Poulsbo driver into intrepid too. Mike was supposed to do this so that both DRM stacks would co-exist simultaneously. | 11:29 |
lool | amitk: Wow, you think you could port psb to intrepid? | 11:30 |
StevenK | amitk: Please tell me when you've uploaded the kernel and I'll poke -archive to look at it | 11:31 |
amitk | StevenK: I have successfully compiled it locally (rebased on 2.6.27). It still lacks psb and aufs. If this is already useful, I can upload it now. | 11:32 |
StevenK | lool: ^ | 11:33 |
StevenK | lool!! | 11:43 |
amitk | lol @ lool | 11:44 |
lool | amitk: It's useful! | 12:31 |
lool | StevenK: StevenK!! | 12:31 |
lool | Hmm no that doesn't work | 12:31 |
StevenK | lool: Heh | 12:36 |
StevenK | lool: If you think what amitk said was okay, let's get him to upload | 12:36 |
amitk | StevenK: I'll do it in 30 minutes, hungry now :) | 12:38 |
lool | StevenK: I understand you had a startx race in the images | 13:04 |
lool | StevenK: Did you understand what happens with the first session? does it crash? | 13:04 |
lool | StevenK: One thing I refrained doing is using the openvt -e flag because I didn't know whether upstart would track childs | 13:04 |
lool | StevenK: On another topic, you mentionned you would lose your changes upon reboot; you can keep them by creating an ext3 image along the ubuntu-mid.img and labelling it casper-rw | 13:05 |
lool | I see you fixed that by using -w; it might be nicer to use -e, but -w is fine | 13:08 |
lool | amitk: Not sure whether you noticed, but with up to date hardy kernels, network doesn't come up on boot with CB | 13:30 |
lool | amitk: I have to unplug the USB <-> Ethernet adapter and then it works | 13:30 |
persia | lool: I'm to blame for -w. I don't see -e in the manpage for openvt. What does it do? | 13:31 |
amitk | lool: udev problem? | 13:31 |
lool | ogra: So scratch that lid switch thing, but the power button properly triggers a resume here | 13:37 |
lool | amitk: Could be, but I rather suspect the changes in the builtin versus modular in the kernel config | 13:37 |
lool | amitk: I'm not knowledgeable enough to tell what goes wrong, but these are the changes I woudl suspect | 13:37 |
lool | persia: what pkg provides openvt on your sys? | 13:38 |
lool | kbd: /bin/openvt | 13:38 |
lool | -e Directly execute the given command, without forking. This | 13:38 |
lool | option is meant for use in /etc/inittab. | 13:38 |
ogra | lool, ok, then its because i use the wrong image on it | 13:38 |
lool | => it causes an exec() instead of fork+exec | 13:38 |
amitk | lool: I'll look into it sometime next week after the current task list runs out | 13:38 |
lool | ogra: Could be because of your BIOS too | 13:38 |
ogra | (was trying with the cmpc image to get the USB suspend/resume patch) | 13:38 |
lool | amitk: No hurry really, but thought you might want to know | 13:39 |
lool | amitk: it's hardy stuff | 13:39 |
persia | lool: Right. I'm reading manpages on a hardy install. -e is much better. | 13:45 |
* persia fixes | 13:46 | |
lool | I actually wanted to use it and it would have prevented upstart from relaunching, but I wanted to try it first and forgot | 13:46 |
persia | No worries: it just looked like an obvious race, as the session was respawning wildly. -w just something to make it shut up. | 13:48 |
lool | persia: I wonder whether console-tools' openvt provides -e, and what versions to require for kbd to get -e | 13:49 |
persia | lool: console-tools doesn't provide -e | 13:50 |
persia | Shall we just leave it with -w for now, or do you want a hard dependency on kdb? | 13:50 |
lool | persia: I don't care strongly; openvt's size doesn't make a big difference, so it probably makes sense to not take away the possibility to use console-tools | 13:51 |
persia | OK. I'll not make any changes then. | 13:51 |
lool | Urgh http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.media/alparc.png | 14:02 |
persia | lool: Just remember: software system block diagrams for frameworks are drawn by people who don't write software. | 14:03 |
lool | from http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/access-linux-hands-on.ars which is otherwise quite interesting | 14:03 |
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landley_ | davidm: sorry chromium turned out to be so pointless. | 19:10 |
landley_ | I didn't know they were stupid enough to write it in C++. No wonder it requires 300 megs to boot. | 19:10 |
landley_ | (Why would anyone do a _new_ browser in C++? Konqueror/Safari exists.) | 19:11 |
landley_ | Thought they were doing it in C, since they _mentioned_ android in the design explanation and everything. | 19:11 |
landley_ | Some _vague_ embedded interest. Oh well. | 19:11 |
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landley | davidm: nevermind, I figured it out. Webkit is Apple's safari engine, which is a fork of konqueror. | 20:05 |
landley | So the answer to "why would anyone do a new browser in c++ when konqueror/safari exists" is "they didn't". | 20:06 |
landley | Still disappointed it's in C++. Still disappointed that Stu reports the prototype ate 300 megs of ram when he tested it. | 20:06 |
landley | But at least now I know why. | 20:06 |
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