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powertool08jhutchins_wk: ok, it says appendable data cd-r00:00
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powertool08jhutchins_wk: hmm, i tried another cd (i've had this problem for awhile but haven't had time/need to address it until now) and it gives the same error when I click it, but k3b recognizes it as empty00:02
jhutchins_wkAh, you've written to that one then.  Might be formatted for a packet writing driver.00:02
jhutchins_wkI gotta get out of here, I may be on later.00:02
powertool08jhutchins_wk: A week ago when this came up I tried about 4 cd's and none worked so I don't know why this one is special or what changed since then00:02
gx009your luck changed00:04
Schuenemannhow can I create an ISO with k3b? It generates a .img file00:04
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_2exit00:08
_2what's the k app for digital cameras ?00:11
powertool08_2: digikam I think00:11
_2powertool08 ummm still photo camera00:12
_2!digikam00:12
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about digikam00:12
_2!info digikam00:12
ubottudigikam (source: digikam): digital photo management application for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:0.9.3-2ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 6890 kB, installed size 21928 kB00:12
_2ok i'll give it a shot00:12
_2before i always just mounted /dev/sda /mnt and copied/moved the photos... new camera doesn't have disk mode00:14
_2cheep peace of junk !00:16
powertool08hmm, I've never used it00:17
chisiyuanhi, guys! How to convert avi to ogg with mencoder or whatever?00:37
powertool08chisiyuan: http://ubuntuswitch.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/howto-convert-ogg-to-avi-with-mencoder/00:41
powertool08chisiyuan: That goes from ogg -> avi so you'll have to change the parameters alittle00:42
chisiyuanyes, thx powertool 08!00:44
powertool08np00:44
DarkShinigamiHello all01:02
chisiyuanhello darkshinigami01:03
DarkShinigamiIn Kopete, Yahoo doesn't reconnect like before. Any ideas of what is happening to Kopete? How can I make Kopete reconnect Yahoo?01:03
DarkShinigamiHello chisiyuan01:03
ddmdllt(my problem seems solved, a problem with /etc/acpi/events/asus-mail in fact... if someone else asks...)01:13
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_2so either no one uses kubuntu or no one has issues with kubuntu that arent kde4/compiz related    ?01:47
_2or maybe agent bob ran everyone off from this channel ?01:48
_2he's such a jerk these days.01:50
DarkShinigamiFor any and all using Kopete, how can I get Yahoo to auto-reconnect?01:52
_2DarkShinigami i'm not ignoring you.  i just don't use kopete and don't know.01:54
_2so you know someone heard you   ^    ;/01:54
DarkShinigami_2: I'm not addressing you or any other person in particular. That is why I am throwing it out there for "any and all using Kopete"01:55
DarkShinigamiOk01:55
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DarkShinigamiThanks for hearing me :)01:56
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justalonehi!01:56
powertool08hi01:56
DragnslcrDarkShinigami- I haven't had that problem with 0.50, but you can try asking in #kopete01:57
DarkShinigamiDragnslcr: Installed: 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy101:58
_2:)02:00
DragnslcrI've been using KDE4 for a little while, so I can't really test it for you, but I don't especially remember it being a problem02:00
DarkShinigamihello powertool0802:00
powertool08hi DarkShinigami02:01
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intelikeyand who knows if the twin is a fool for wisdom or if justice has any children02:14
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ubuntu_hello02:19
ubuntu_i got grub error 202:19
ubuntu_what do i do ?02:19
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geniiOk, how do I reset password pd wallet?02:19
geniipd -> on02:19
intelikeyroot is as root does02:20
ubuntu_how do i fix my grub ?02:20
powertool08ubuntu_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=345661702:20
powertool08looks like you have to reinstall grub02:20
intelikey!grub > ubuntu_02:20
ubottuubuntu_, please see my private message02:20
* genii hands intelikey a coffee02:21
intelikeygenii not in kcontorl ?02:21
powertool08ubuntu_: another post says: My only resolution was to edit the grub boot line (during boot time: I think you press E) and try different drives (hd0,0, hd1,0) etc. until I got the one that worked.02:21
powertool08ubuntu_: so i'd double check your partition info in /boot/grub/menu.lst02:22
* intelikey slides genii crap you beet me to it.... i lag02:22
intelikey:)02:23
garthounetquestion02:23
garthounetjai une question02:23
geniiintelikey: My buddy has probs loggin into kopete because at some point someone put a password for kwallet and now no one knows what it is anymore02:23
garthounetil font des jeux en ligne linux des jeux de guerre stratégie ils font?02:24
intelikeypowertool08 grub shell has find02:24
powertool08intelikey: ? to find the file or to find the right partitions?02:24
intelikeygenii ah.   ummm rm ~/.kde/share/..... something to reset it ?     find ~/.kde -iname '*wall*'02:25
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geniiintelikey: Looking now ....02:26
intelikeypowertool08 helps with both02:27
intelikeypowertool08 trial and error     root (hd0,0)    0,1... will give enough information to see what the fs is  but not if it is the fs you have your root install on.  thus find vmlinuz  helps with that02:28
powertool08intelikey: it was actually ubuntu_ with the problem02:29
intelikeygenii ever see jucato around here anymore ?   he would know what file...02:29
geniiintelikey: Nah, I'm not on much lately unfortunately .....02:30
intelikeypowertool08 yeah but you were helping him, i just mentioned it incase you wanted to pass it on to him.   wasn't trying to 'but in'02:31
powertool08intelikey: I don't mind if you but in, but thanks for thinking of it02:31
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intelikeyoops.02:36
DarkShinigamiintelikey: I have jucato on Y!, but he's idle02:36
intelikeyDarkShinigami k   it's still early for hime02:36
intelikeyhim02:36
DarkShinigamiIt's been a long time since him and I talked. I don't even know the time difference from him and I02:37
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intelikeyhe's gmt+8 iirc02:38
voltyhi, I just installed kubuntu-8.04 from dvd, disabled grub during the installation, and put in my current grub.conf:02:38
voltytitle Kubuntu-8.0402:38
volty  root (hd2,4)02:38
volty  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=/dev/hdc5 vga=0x31702:38
voltybut it cannot boot, just block, with caps lock scroll lock flashing02:38
intelikeyvolty you have three hdds there ?02:39
voltyyes02:39
voltywindows, gentoo, and now trying kubuntu02:39
dr_willisGoing from windows to gentoo.. is a bit learning experience. :)02:40
voltyquite :)02:40
dr_willisTesting out the latest Sabayon later today02:40
intelikeyvolty and does bios do any fancy disk manipulation ?     "boot from hdc maybe ?"02:41
denisbrHello for all02:41
denisbrI have a kubuntu iso image, now, I'm using the Ubuntu, how I can install the packages of the kubuntu in the ubuntu using the files in the iso image ?02:42
voltyintelikey: should be ok, gentoo boots from the same disk on extended partition02:42
ubuntu_hi all02:42
intelikeyvolty and does bios do any fancy disk manipulation ?     "boot from hdc maybe ?"02:42
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voltydenisbr: you have to mount that iso02:42
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intelikeyvolty grub sees the disk which bios is booting as hd0   reguardless of where it is.02:43
denisbrvolty, ok, anymore ? I need to configure the source.list ?02:43
WasTE[bRe]is it posibile to instal kubuntu while i have instaled windows [to use lilo boot loader at boot screen to choose betwean windows and kubuntu]??02:43
voltydenisbr google howto mount iso02:43
dr_willisdenisbr,  you would be better off just using the package manager to download/install the kubuntu stuff. due to updates that may been released after the iso  was made02:43
intelikeymore literally grub uses bios to read in files/boot the os02:43
WasTE[bRe]is it posibile to instal kubuntu while i have instaled windows [to use lilo boot loader at boot screen to choose betwean windows and kubuntu]??02:44
denisbrdr_willis, I can't to use my image iso ?02:44
voltyintelikey: i have my own [self] imposed limits02:44
intelikeyvolty suit your self.  i tried.02:44
dr_willisdenisbr,  it may be out of date on a lot of packages.. so they will get grabbed from the internet anyway..  I was thinking only the ALTERNATIVE install cd. could be used as a 'source' to update from.02:45
WasTE[bRe]is it posibile to instal kubuntu while i have instaled windows [to use lilo boot loader at boot screen to choose betwean windows and kubuntu]??02:45
dr_willis!iso02:45
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.02:45
dr_willisWasTE[bRe],  normally when ubuntu installs it installs GRUB (lilo is a bit out of date and rarely used)  that makes a boot meny for you to use02:45
intelikeyWasTE[bRe] yes02:45
WasTE[bRe]yup but when i try to install kubtnu says need to format whole hdd02:46
voltyintelikey: the only thing I can try is kernel (hd2,4)/boot/... syntax, if gentoo's vmlinuz boots that way this should too02:46
intelikeyWasTE[bRe] ubuntu defaults to grub   but you can use lilo if you need a more powerful boot loader02:46
voltydr_willis: i disabled that during installation, I already have my grub.conf02:46
dr_willisWasTE[bRe],  defrag, scandisk, and tell the installer to resize the drive.. OR use the gparted live cd. to resize windows manually and  leave some unallocated space . resboot the ubuntu installer and tell it to use the unallocated space.02:47
WasTE[bRe]i made 2 disks, linux swap 512 mb, and ext3 partioton with 10gb for slackware, i was using slackware02:48
WasTE[bRe]i want on that 10gb to instal kubuntu, how?02:48
dr_willisYou can tell the installer/partitioner to install there. if you know what you are doing and where the partition is at.02:48
dr_willisit has a manual/automatic/custome/ option i recall. You just need to mount the 10gb to / in the installer02:49
dr_willisand it will want to reformat the 10gb partition02:49
intelikeywhy are hdd's always to small  ?02:49
dr_willis10gb wouldent cover my Wallpaper collection. ;)02:49
WasTE[bRe]:D02:49
WasTE[bRe]ok ill try to intall linux now02:50
WasTE[bRe]tel u stap by stap whan the installer says :D02:50
dr_willisor alternatively.. delete all the parttions you dont 'want' swap/the 10gb or whatever.. and leave the part of the drive unallocated.. and tell the installer to use the UNALLOCATED space.. (easiest way)02:50
dr_willisit pays to 'read and think' about what the installer is asking. :)02:50
WasTE[bRe]ok i will02:50
WasTE[bRe]so to destry partiton?02:50
WasTE[bRe]and left unlocated space02:50
dr_willisi always use the gparted live cd's thats in my pc toolbox. :)02:51
dr_willisyou could run gparted from the livecd i think. (or install it , then run it from live cd)02:51
WasTE[bRe]ok wish me luck guys, if u see the sky in whitte my comp bloows up :D02:51
intelikeynot the best way if the partition numbers changing will affect anything else.   ^02:52
gnomook, i try to install chrome (just for try) and i follow the steps of the forums http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/2008/09/install-google-chrome-on-linux-using-wine.html, but when i try to open the .exe, nothing happens (either on the konsole)02:52
dr_willisI dont see chrome being that big a deal at this time. so its a mimimilist type browser.. yea.. so... :)02:53
gnomoit's just for try...; i don't like google either xD, but i see it everywhere!02:54
voltythere will come rabbits out of that hat (chrome)02:54
intelikeydillo02:54
dr_willisI just fullscreen firefox and be done with it02:54
voltywhat handles, how it handles, do not underestimate google02:55
intelikeydillo dillo dillo graphical web browser of minimalests everwhere02:55
voltyit seems i missed the initrd line02:55
intelikey"underestimate google"  heh  impossable!02:57
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voltywhat's that root=UUID=<string of hex numbers> in grub's kernel line?02:58
intelikeyblkid02:59
intelikeyvolty  command   blkid       should list all file system unique identifiers03:00
voltythx03:01
voltygoing to try03:03
WasTe[Bre]i destryed 2 partitions and maked unlocated space, but lilo loader [from slackware] left on MBR, how to remove it?03:07
voltyintelikey: thx, all ok03:07
WasTe[Bre]i destryed 2 partitions and maked unlocated space, but lilo loader [from slackware] left on MBR, how to remove it?03:07
intelikeyvolty i think maybe we are a lot alike when we start fixing a system,  "by grabs! don't bother me with details and questions, just give me the information i asked for, and don't even try to tell me it's not the right way to do it!  i'll either learn that for myself, or prove you wrong anyway.  by grabs!"  ;/    and if two of us try to talk to each other the fur flies...03:08
intelikeyvolty welcome03:08
voltyu right :)03:09
intelikeyWasTe[Bre] installing a new boot loader will take care of the MBR03:09
intelikeyWasTe[Bre] installing kubuntu will by default install grub03:10
intelikey!grub03:10
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:10
voltyi installed kubuntu on a clients pc and liked it, iḿ getting bit sick of gentoo so I'll try kubuntu for some time03:10
WasTe[Bre]the one who says to destrtoy partitins and left unlocated space so i can instale kbuntu on them was right! thnx03:10
gnomoone thing: i think i installed right (chrome) even is the menu in Wine>Programas, but says starting... and does not open ?03:12
WasTe[Bre]its cool ubuntu is installing and am ircing :d03:12
voltyubottu: i have done it with a cd, just grub on it you manually boot the first time then reinstall once booted03:12
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:12
intelikeyvolty i really like *buntu linux       after you get done configuring it and installing the apps you want, removing the ones you don't and get everything setup to suit yourself.... of course then it's not really ubuntu anymore it's your own personal linux.   which is what linux is all about anyway.     "default is only the starting point on the long road to right"03:13
denisbrIt's possible install the KDe 4 in the Ubuntu 8.04 ?03:13
stdindenisbr: see the topic of #kubuntu-kde403:15
intelikey!kde4 | denisbr03:15
ubottudenisbr: KDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde403:15
denisbrstdin, intelikey thanks03:15
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intelikeystdin :)03:16
intelikeyi was lagging about 70 seconds.   caught up for a minute now.03:17
intelikeystdin what you working on now ?03:18
stdinjust some random stuff :)03:19
WasTe[Bre]i am instaling kubuntu verzion 7.10 how to upgrade it to 8.04?03:19
* intelikey likes random stuff :)03:19
stdin!upgrade | WasTe[Bre]03:19
ubottuWasTe[Bre]: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:19
WasTe[Bre]thnx03:19
intelikeyWasTe[Bre] you'll be better off installing from the 8.4 cd's03:20
intelikeyif you have the bandwidth03:20
stdinthe upgrade to 8.04 went smoothly when I tried on my PCs03:20
WasTe[Bre]yup03:20
WasTe[Bre]failed to install cd has some error on it :d03:21
WasTe[Bre]failed at 50%03:21
* intelikey has yet to see a "smooth" upgrade...03:21
WasTe[Bre]so ill download 8.04 with kde403:21
intelikeykde4 remix03:21
WasTe[Bre]what is kde4 remix?03:22
stdinyou'll be better off getting the normal kubuntu (8.04.1) CD and install kde4 in there03:22
intelikeyget the iso with "remix" in the title03:22
intelikeyoh stdin may know something i don't03:22
intelikeyi'll defer to his advice on that03:22
stdinthe remix isn't our best bit of work ;)03:23
WasTe[Bre]if i wait for a cd ill wats for 15 days03:23
WasTe[Bre]i mighy die tomorrow :D03:23
intelikeystdin ah i see.03:23
WasTe[Bre]so what choice?03:23
intelikeyWasTe[Bre] if you do none of this will have been important anyway03:23
WasTe[Bre]what to download?03:24
WasTe[Bre]:D03:24
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intelikeydeath has a way of making computers growsely unimportant.03:27
intelikeymr---t- who we be ?03:28
mr---t-we ?03:28
intelikey:)03:28
intelikeyhow are you today ?03:28
mr---t-great like tony the tiger without the stripes03:29
intelikey:)03:29
* intelikey cuts a switch and adds stripes03:29
mr---t-what do you know about konversation?03:30
intelikeyde nada03:30
intelikeyi think i looked at it one time.03:30
mr---t-k03:30
voltywhich donkey client you suggest ?03:31
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intelikeyml03:31
mr---t-I made a change to my program but it doesn't seem to work right03:31
intelikey!info kmldonkey03:32
ubottukmldonkey (source: kmldonkey): KDE GUI for MLDonkey. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-3ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 887 kB, installed size 3000 kB03:32
voltyi tried it and liked it03:32
intelikey!info gkrellm-mldonkey | i didn't know about this...03:33
ubottui didn't know about this...: gkrellm-mldonkey (source: gkremldk): mldonkey plugin for gkrellm2. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-2 (hardy), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB03:33
* mr---t- wonders what's a donkey?03:34
intelikeyan ass03:34
mr---t- :-D03:34
intelikeywait,  you set me up didn't you03:35
intelikeyi've been framed!03:35
mr---t-maybe?03:35
intelikeyit's mr---t-'s fault03:35
voltyhere it says reboot required (after adept updater) - windoz like  - i can do it later no ?03:35
intelikeyyou can.   only reason to reboot is kernel/module updates03:36
voltywhile the other apps (not the running ones) got already replaced ?03:36
intelikeyvolty correct03:38
voltysome of you tried to enable other protocols in mldonkey ? do they work03:38
intelikeyi don't have the band width for it.03:38
intelikeyi'm on dialup03:38
intelikey;/03:38
intelikeyi'm so far back in the sticks we have to pipe in sunlight,  i mean so far back that there aint nothing behind us.    so far back that if you ever find the middle of nowhere, you're still 50 miles from us...03:40
voltyare you in afghanistan ?03:41
intelikeywell not exactly   but close03:41
mr---t-your whole country is only the size of new jersey lol03:42
intelikeythat's ok cause i don't exist, therefore i don't take up much room03:42
mr---t-then stop riding the edonkeys03:43
* intelikey looks for that switch he cut eariler03:43
mr---t-/ok ok03:44
intelikeyisn't new your a suburb of new jersey ?03:44
intelikeyyork03:44
voltywashington dc ?03:45
intelikeyno it's  a different country03:45
mr---t-hey I'm an upstater, we don't even claim the city folk up here03:46
intelikeynew york    a suburb of new jersey03:46
voltyahh, with a dialup03:46
mr---t-we call them tourons, half tourist half moron03:46
intelikeyi heard they had a special word for that,,,   poon ?03:47
intelikeymaybe i'm on the wrong cost for that...03:48
mr---t-careful were in danger of being too far ot03:48
intelikeyi'll get on topic as soon as a topic shows up....03:48
mr---t-you couldn't help me with my konversation problems so I03:49
* intelikey never was one to "look busy for the boss, when there was nothing to do..."03:49
mr---t-,ran out of problems03:49
intelikeyoh yeah.  konvo... lets see.  what was the issue ?03:49
intelikeyyou never did say03:49
mr---t-Jucato gave a line or two to modify so that I could get double spacing in the client window' but it doesn't work quite right03:50
mr---t-I have,nt seen him in here since I got it working03:51
intelikeywell what do you expect,  he's the network guru...    </joke!>03:51
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intelikeyyou have the lines he gave ?03:52
mr---t-this was my first compile and first program change in linux03:52
mr---t-mr---t-: you need to include these lines under the [Appearance] group of your konversationrc file: "UseParagraphSpacing=true" and "ParagraphSpacing=20" (without the quotes. you'll have to experiment with the paragraphs spacing value)03:53
intelikeyok let me play with that a minute.03:54
mr---t-when people speak slowly it works great, but the faster they speak the closer the lines get together03:54
voltyi really like this a breeze to install apps and cli tells you how to get it if not present03:54
mr---t-I'm konverted03:55
afeijohi folks03:55
afeijotar cant unpack all .gz files in curent folder?03:55
mr---t-!tar03:56
ubottuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression03:56
afeijomr---t-: its in command line03:57
voltyafeijo: i think you should restate your question03:58
afeijovolty: ok...03:58
afeijoI use wget to download several .gz files to update modules (php stuff)03:59
afeijoit would be easier if I could use one single tar command to unpack all03:59
afeijocurently I do 2 commands, wget than the tar to the same file03:59
voltyfor f in *.gz; do tar  .... $f; done04:00
afeijooh thanks04:00
afeijoI was thinking in a loop command, but never used in shell04:00
Agent_bobyuch it defaults to * on white.04:00
Agent_bobmr---t-: give a few lines quick04:01
Agent_bobtesting04:01
mr---t-what04:01
mr---t-lines of nothing04:01
intelikeyyes04:01
intelikeyor something04:01
intelikey!bot04:01
afeijovolty: can for in be recursive? like for -r in *.gz ?04:01
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:01
mr---t-what are we testing? bobo04:01
mr---t-sorry bob04:02
holycow4.1.1 is out04:02
holycowsweet04:02
Agent_bobyour konversation settings04:02
Agent_bobi'm not seeing what you described.    is it kde4 ?04:02
voltyafeijo: no, but you can do it with find, another one is to launch tar with all files together tar ... `ls *.gz`04:03
intelikeymr---t- ?04:03
mr---t-konversation rcl04:03
intelikeyis it kde4 ?04:03
mr---t-no04:03
Agent_bobk04:04
mr---t-the final upgrade to 3.5904:04
mr---t-bob the spacing I used was 40 not 2004:04
mr---t-he said to experiment to get the spacing I was looking for04:05
mr---t-did you see my last post bob?04:07
afeijovolty: to use 2 commands in the for, its (tar ... $f; rm $f) ?04:07
mr---t-Agent_bob:  did you see my last post?04:08
intelikeyyeah i'm still here.04:08
intelikey:)04:08
intelikeyi tested 20 and 30 so far04:08
voltyyes, btw, recursive like: tar ... `find `, or for f in `find *.gz`; do ... ; done04:08
voltyafeijo: type 'help for' at the prompt04:09
afeijonice, got it04:10
afeijoIm reading find help to make it get subfolders04:10
intelikeyfind . -iname '*.gz' -exec tar -args_here '{}' \;04:10
intelikeyvolty    ^04:10
voltyyap, used it whole my life :) , to remove thumbnails after wget-tting nice galleries04:11
intelikeythat will work with name with spaces or even with newlines    where the for loop wont04:11
voltyfind is powerful04:11
intelikeywell i should have said your unmodified for loop wouldn't   it can too.04:12
mr---t-intelikey: = Agent_bob ?04:12
intelikeyyeah04:12
mr---t-Agent_bob: = _2 ?04:13
Agent_bobthat too   or should i say that _204:13
mr---t-why the aliases, too many x wives?04:13
Agent_bobthose settings don't affect my konversation.   sorry i wont be of any help there.04:13
intelikeyheh.   no.  too many x lives04:14
voltysuggest a nice interface for starting / stopping stuff in /etc/init.d ?04:14
mr---t-you have to be on the rcl version04:14
intelikeymr---t- that's what you meant by rcl ^ up there.   i was busy and let that slip by04:15
intelikeyok.   well i gave it a shot tho.04:15
* intelikey awards self e for effort.04:15
mr---t-Yeah I had to get it as a binary and compile it04:15
intelikey"get it as a binary and compile it" ???04:15
intelikey:)04:15
intelikeyyou mean source ?04:15
mr---t-yeah04:16
intelikey:)04:16
mr---t-my bad04:16
mr---t-sorry I got _2 on my mind for some reason :-)04:16
mr---t-thanks for trying anyway04:17
intelikeyvolty update-rc.d ???04:17
intelikeyvolty you mean a gui ?     there is one.04:17
intelikeyif you mean cli then we normally just use the /etc/init.d/scriptname start|stop|restop04:18
intelikeystart-stop-daemon   is another way04:18
intelikey!services04:19
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about services04:19
intelikeybot is so ignorant04:19
intelikey!service04:19
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about service04:19
mr---t-thanks ubottu04:20
voltyintelikey: yes, a gui04:20
voltyor better an applet04:20
intelikeyapplet i doubt.   but ctrl+alt+esc  might get you there04:21
intelikeyksysguard04:21
intelikeythere is a wedget or applet or kcm blah blah thingy  in system settings i think.  but it doesn't list all services.04:22
intelikeyvolty any of that help ya any ?04:23
voltythx, i need something very simple, i'm going to do it myself, not an applet but small box04:23
voltyjust to stop a group of services sometimes04:23
intelikeyafeijo find is recursive by default.04:24
voltyi could do it with levels no ?04:24
intelikeyyeah you could.  update-rc.d  would be a key in that.04:24
voltynever mind04:24
intelikeyrunlevels 2-5 are all == in ubuntu default setup04:25
voltybit tired, when i'm not tired i read docs and google, when tired i come to irc channels  :))04:25
afeijointelikey: wierd, I just type "find partfilename" and it dont find, only if I'm in the file dir04:25
voltyafeijo: it start from a folders downwards04:26
intelikeyafeijo   find . -iname '*part_file.name*'04:26
intelikeyafeijo   find / -iname '*part_file.name*'  # <<< search the entire computer04:27
afeijo'find . -iname sql' found no file04:27
afeijobut no error returned04:27
intelikeyafeijo you can combine tests in find they default to -a (and)04:28
voltythere is a file named sql exactly ?04:28
intelikeyafeijo so there are no dirs nor files named   sql04:28
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afeijointelikey: I have a lot of files with sql as part of the name04:28
voltyafeijo: find a rest :)04:29
intelikeyso do what i said and stop correcting it.    find . -iname '*sql*'04:29
intelikeyif i had meant leave out '* *'   i wouldn't have put them in there04:29
afeijointelikey: oh thats it! thanks04:29
voltyhe´ s just tired04:30
afeijoyes I am, 0h30 here and I'm just back from a BBQ :)04:30
holycowuh hi04:32
holycowhallo04:32
holycowso04:32
holycowdoes anyone realize kde4.1.1 has a mysql dependency?04:32
holycow*blink*04:32
holycowwhat the hell?04:32
intelikeyafeijo if you want a literal * (which linux can have in file names) then escape it with \     fine . -name 'blah\*blah'      #   or even   find . -name '*\**'    # finds all files and dirs with * in their name     # find . -type d -name '*\**'     # finds all dirs with * in their name....04:32
afeijovery powerfull the find cmd!04:33
intelikeyholycow i think the 3. meta package does too    kde04:33
intelikeyafeijo if you need the output of find quoted, it can do that too.  :)04:34
holycowi don't get it tho ... why?04:34
afeijointelikey: got it, thanks!!04:35
voltywhy what ? sql ? so many apps need storage04:35
intelikeyfind . -type f -printf '{}' \;    # that will give single quoted file names.04:35
holycowuh no04:35
concernedcitizenhow can I upgrade from kde 3.x to 4?04:35
voltyalso kde could benefit storing all the attributes there04:35
holycowits called the file system04:35
holycowwhy would anyone store anything in an rdbm when the file system is right there?04:35
intelikey!kde4 | concernedcitizen04:35
ubottuconcernedcitizen: KDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde404:35
voltyit's faster04:36
holycowuh no04:36
holycowjust stop04:36
voltyit is more ordered04:36
holycowanyway i don't want to argue about why04:36
holycowthis is a REALLY stupid idea04:36
holycowits much dumber than even the windows registry04:36
voltymaybe but i always wanted that04:36
holycowno one sane does04:36
voltystructured data, if xml does well, then better a database04:37
holycowah no04:37
holycowits an unnecessary layer that offers nothing04:37
holycowand only increases complexity unnecessarily04:37
intelikeyholycow careful  sanity is either determined by one of three measures.    the masses   self     a higher power.04:37
voltyit's the same, enough to have an adaptor and you can see the database as single files (like now)04:37
holycowplease just stop04:37
intelikeyand they seldom agree04:37
holycowits not the same04:37
holycowa flat file is not the same as a full rdbm04:38
holycowbasically your argument is you like it and frankly thats great04:38
holycowfor you04:38
voltyi meant if you want to have a flat file (ro) an adapter can provide you out of db04:38
holycowi'm not here to really listen why you like it.  i'm just curious who made this decision04:38
holycowis it official04:39
holycowor is it some temporary test ... some cosmic joke someone is playing04:39
holycowbecause if this is where kde4 is going, i'm going back to frickin gnome04:39
holycowi'm thinking however that there is a compile time option here04:39
holycowas kde is so modular04:39
voltykontact ? where the data is stored04:39
intelikeyholycow #kde would really be a better place to get a definitive answer04:39
holycowthat one probably can specify the desired option04:39
deokanonhey guys, if i use the super grub booting disk, will i be able to bypass the grub error 17 stage 1.5?04:39
holycowintelikey: perhaps04:40
intelikeydeokanon should04:40
deokanonafter having formatted every partition that has linux in it04:40
deokanoneven?04:40
intelikeydeokanon sure04:40
deokanoncoolest04:41
intelikeydeokanon of course you can only boot what is installed...04:41
deokanonthanks04:41
intelikeynot what you removed.04:41
deokanonwhat intelikey04:41
voltycan you  boot remotely with grub ?04:41
deokanonokay i formatted every partition containing linux04:42
deokanonbut for some reason grub booting thing is still there04:42
voltybye04:42
deokanontrying to boot from someplace that doesnt exist anymore04:42
intelikeydeokanon are you trying to eliminate linux from your computer ?04:42
deokanonye04:42
deokanontried to do it through windows04:42
intelikey!remove-grub04:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about remove-grub04:42
intelikey!removegrub04:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about removegrub04:42
intelikeypfft.04:42
intelikeythere is a page on the wiki04:43
deokanonhad the bright idea of formatting the partition i created that contained kubuntu through disk manager04:43
intelikeybasicly it's something like boot into windows recovery console and run  fixmbr04:43
deokanonyeah, tried that... but that apparently works only when recovery console was preinstalled04:43
deokanonor something like that, i do have a winxp cd... but it doesnt seem to work for some reason04:44
intelikeyummm i think it will work from some windows recovery disks too04:44
intelikeyi don't do windows so i can't help much there.   but there is an unofficial ##windows channel here on freenode04:45
mr---t-recovery console should be on the install cd04:45
deokanonah... ill look for those... so far i`ve downloaded ultimate boot cd and also super grub and ill try those first and then ill google some more on win recovery cds04:45
deokanonthanks gusy04:46
intelikeydeokanon wait04:46
intelikeyyou can install grub from the super grub cd and still have it boot only windows too.04:46
Picideokanon: The folks in ##windows should be able to help you out as well.04:46
intelikeythat's the simplest option imo04:46
intelikeyall you need is something to bounce you from mbr to bootable partition...   how hard can that be to write04:48
deokanonintelikey.. do you think if i use that option i will have to use the super grub disk forever04:48
deokanonsorry, total linux noob here04:49
deokanonhehehe04:49
intelikeydeokanon no.   if you use that option you install grub with it's files in your windows partition and you can put away the supergrubcd for a rainy day.04:49
intelikeyit will boot from the hd and load windows04:50
deokanonnice... :)04:50
* intelikey actually started using *nux style boot loaders before he started using linux04:51
intelikeymultibooted four installs of M$ crap   ;/04:51
deokanoni hope this time it works... that error has been a pain in the ass for five days now04:51
intelikeyback when win98 was new04:51
deokanonlol04:51
deokanoncool man... ur the first i feel like tried to help me. karma will do you good04:54
intelikeyoh i was the talk of the town, cause i could boot dos3 dos6 dos7/win95 dos7/win98  all on one box without getting into bios to change between them...     of course it was a small town  the other three people just needed someone to talk about actually....04:54
deokanonhehehe04:55
intelikeywelcome.  :)04:55
intelikeydeokanon and i don't know who this karma guy is, but if i ever meet him i'll mention your name.  :)04:56
* mr---t- thinks intelikey is nicer than Agent_bob04:56
intelikey:)))04:56
marcobxbro1how do i add a custom item on the kde start menu04:56
* intelikey </speachless> 04:57
intelikeymarcobxbro1 kmenuedit04:57
marcobxbro1I'm in the kde menu edit04:57
marcobxbro1I added what I wanted but it doesn't show on the kde menu04:57
marcobxbro1kde start bar04:57
intelikeyyou "applied settings"04:57
marcobxbro1yes04:58
intelikeyhmmm04:58
guy_hello04:58
mr---t-!hi04:58
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:58
guy_I have a small question about kubuntu hardy04:58
* mr---t- is the walmart greeter for kubuntu04:58
marcobxbro1intelikey: any other sugestion04:58
intelikeymr---t- maybe it's a   dr. intelikey and Agent_bob thang ?04:59
guy_do you know if is possible to install an kernel with vserver functionnalities ?04:59
intelikeymarcobxbro1 save all settings exit kde and log back in...   shouldn't be needed but i'm not sure it "wont" help....05:00
marcobxbro1did that buddy05:00
NCommanderI'm curious if anyone here has read Watchman05:00
holycowi have05:00
holycowworst graphic novel ever05:00
NCommanderholycow, why?05:00
holycowwritten for people with brain damage05:00
intelikeyguy_ http://kernel.org ?05:01
guy_yes I know, but I search a packet05:01
holycowNCommander: the writing is poor on so many levels i don't know wher eto begin05:01
holycowthe story is simply asinine and ridiculous05:01
intelikeyguy_  apt-cache search linux-image | less05:01
guy_not available on the standard repository05:02
holycowthe art is beyond horrible as well05:02
holycowNCommander: imho only :)05:02
intelikeyguy_ that will list all prebuilt kernels available   so if it's not there,  then you'll have to roll your own.05:02
holycowNCommander: its just that for yearsi have heard people rave about it, and then i read it about a year ago05:02
NCommanderI generally find its quite good the writing, once you get into the mindset that the narrator for the first part is likely completely insane05:02
holycowand i just couldn't believe how bad it was05:03
intelikeyguy_ building a kernel is not hard05:03
holycowNCommander: the whole mars sequence is pointless as an example05:03
holycowyou could just edit all of that out and it wouldn't change anything05:03
NCommanderI'd agree05:03
NCommanderDr. Manhattan is way overdone in some places05:03
guy_yes I know the process but take a long time05:03
holycowthe whole 'dr. manhattan' thing ... i just didn't see it05:04
holycowi thought that the kernel of an idea its based is good05:04
intelikeyManhattan ?  is that a suburb of new jersey ?05:04
holycowthe 'what if superheroes were real folks' angle is a decent angle i like it05:04
holycowif you edit out dr. manhattan then you have a much better story imho05:04
NCommanderholycow, its good enough that I'll finish reading it end to end, but I agree that it seems a little bleh in places05:05
holycowbut then the main character at the end that planned thewhole thing ... basically he sends retarded monsters to scare everyone into some realization05:05
holycowwhich is like grade 1 story telling05:06
holycowNCommander: i findished it too :) yes05:06
NCommanderPersonally, Catch-22 is my favorite novel05:06
NCommanderJust for the sheer brilliance of it05:06
intelikeyguys i'm not trying to be a pain.   but lets do remember to curb the idle chatter while people are asking actual help related questions in here    k    (just a reminder)05:06
holycownever read it ... i guess its highly recommende?05:06
holycowi've heard of it before05:06
holycowokay quittin idle chatter05:07
intelikeyguy_ was there anything else ?05:07
intelikeyi think he's gone now anyway.   so i should have just let you fellows go on...     sorry.05:08
NCommanderholycow, well, the backstory of catch-22 comes from the bombing missions of world war II05:09
NCommanderGenerally speaking, to fly missions, you must be sane, Any insane pilot is excused from flying05:10
marcobxbro1how do you take a k menu editor item and make it show in the kde start menu05:10
guy_intellikey I use vserver on a debian etch, and I not understand why [k]ubuntu does not implement the solution05:13
guy_I try to install vserver on my laptop to manage more easily my # vserver config05:13
intelikeyguy_ you could cross breed that and use the kernelpackage from debian...    (that's unsupported here)05:13
guy_may be yes but it's not 'elegant'05:14
intelikeyi can't officially tell you how to copy the .deb package from debian to ubuntu and run sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb on it though...05:14
intelikey;\05:15
guy_do you known if a unofficial third-party repositories are available ?05:15
intelikeynot supported ones.   sorry05:15
intelikeybut in that example   debian would be a third party05:16
guy_yes sure05:16
guy_the starnge part is that the uil-vservers tool are available on the 7.10 and 8.0405:16
intelikeyguy_  you can take the idea to the ubuntu development team if you like.05:17
intelikey!team05:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about team05:17
intelikey!ubunut\team05:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubunut\team05:17
intelikey!ubunutteam05:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubunutteam05:17
intelikeystupid bot.   it forgot everything it ever knew.05:17
guy_yes, where :-)05:17
intelikeyor maybe i did.05:17
intelikeyask in #ubuntu-ops05:18
intelikeywoops that's a 504.   gota go.05:18
mr---t-!ubuntu+105:20
ubottuHardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents05:20
tclevalhow can i change a icon theme on kde 4 and how can i change a specific icon.. like a chm documment icon?05:29
favro!kde405:32
ubottuKDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde405:32
jalbertAaargh!05:41
jalbertI'm having a problem here.05:41
jalbertI installed an Emerald theme from KDE-look and now it appears I'm running Gnome!05:42
jalbertHelp! I cdon't like Gnome!05:42
andreaciao05:42
jalbertawww05:43
jalbertWill switchdesk work?05:44
jalbertI can't even open a terminal05:46
jalbertanybody here?05:51
favrojalbert: try   ctrl+alt+bkspace and select options from bottom left and change session to kde05:51
favroit might do the trick05:51
jalbertok I'll try it thanks05:51
jalbertI don't remember an options selection in the login prompt, but I'll try it05:52
favrojalbthat would be with kdm or gdm etc05:52
DarkShinigamiHow do I create a type of m3u file with amarok?05:52
emilsedghDarkShinigami: save your playlist?05:54
R0b0t1Random noise from my headphones depends on the luminescence of my monitor. What is the best way to call the GHOST BUSTERS!06:02
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corigoI promise, I'll write it down this time, but how do I install new fonts?06:04
DarkShinigamiemilsedgh: Yes06:05
DarkShinigamiemilsedgh: How do I save the playlist outside of Amarok? Saving it as a m3u file06:05
favro!fonts | corigo06:05
ubottucorigo: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer06:05
corigofavro: this is not about !fonts this is about Linux and use of fonts in Linux06:20
favrok :)06:20
emilsedghfonts:/ rocks :P06:32
shentinoDoes Ubuntu 8.04 support preparing and then using an LVM'ed scheme when it installs?07:10
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Colonel_Panicis there a channel for getting help with Firefox?07:38
LynoureWell, you can also ask here, if it is the FF that comes with your Kubuntu07:40
LynoureColonel_Panic: where by "comes with" I mean you got it from the repositories07:41
Colonel_PanicYes07:44
Colonel_PanicIf I ununstall it and reinstall FF3, will that fix the problem, or do I have to also delete my user data fioles>07:44
Colonel_Panicfiles?07:44
LynoureColonel_Panic: you did not say what the problem is07:44
LynoureIf it is something caused by messed up user data files, then I'd recommend just moving those aside (not deleting), seeing if that helps and if, restoring little by little so that you can see what part you need to leave out07:46
Colonel_PanicFlash videos won't play07:46
Colonel_PanicI have the Flash plugin and there was no problem until earlier today07:46
Colonel_Panicthey start, then stall a few seconds later07:46
Colonel_PanicFirefox crashes often, as well07:46
LynoureWhat changed earlier today?07:46
Colonel_PanicNothing untoward07:47
Colonel_Panicnothing I can think of07:47
LynoureNo upgrades of anything, installing anything etc?07:48
Colonel_Panicum, no07:48
Colonel_PanicI'd like to upgrade to FF3 anyway07:48
LynoureI'd try with reinstalling FF first, also the plugin, then moving the settings aside if that does not help07:48
Colonel_PanicI already saved my bookmarks, so it's no big deal to uninstall then reinstall07:49
Colonel_Panicbut do I have to also delete my Mozilla dirsctory?07:49
LynoureTHe uninstall does not touch your bookmarks at all07:49
Colonel_PanicWell I was planning on deleting my Mozilla directory07:50
Lynourehmm, I just said, "maving the settings aside _if_ that does not work"07:50
Colonel_Panicwhere can I find the Mozilla directory?07:50
eddieftwColonel_Panic: ~/.mozilla07:51
Colonel_Panicis it the one in my /home directiry?07:51
Colonel_Panicoh ok07:51
LynoureIf you want to, you can do that right away, of course. I would not delete them until I'm sure I don't need them, just mv .mozilla .mozilla-bak or something07:51
eddieftwthe . in the linux file system means its hiddenr07:51
Colonel_Panicyeah I know07:51
eddieftwsorry that would be /home/user/.mozilla, the ~ directory means its in the home folder07:51
Colonel_Panic mean /home/username/.mozilla07:52
eddieftwyes07:52
eddieftw/home/username and ~ mean the same thing07:52
DocTomoeeddieftw: except when logged in as root07:53
eddieftwah what is the difference?07:55
Lynoureeddieftw: root has her home at /root07:56
shentinoUsually07:56
shentinoThat's how it's setup by default.07:56
DocTomoeavoid working as root if you can, however07:57
LynoureWell, in Debian based systems by default, at least07:57
shentinoBut sourceforge has /home/u/us/username07:57
leobuenas a todos08:00
leopodrian ayudarme?08:00
shentinoHabla vd. ingles?08:01
eddieftw!es08:02
shentinoleo: si ud. puede, por favor h'ablanos en ingles.08:02
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.08:02
leosorry, my inglish is very bad jeje08:03
shentinoDo what ubottu said, and you'll get help in spanish08:05
shentinoEscucha a ubottu08:05
Colonel_Paniccan I use apt-get to reinstall the Flash plugin?08:06
Colonel_Panicit's called "flash-plugin" isn't it?08:06
Colonel_Panicapparently that'[s wrong...08:07
leoyes.. or whit synaptic..08:07
Colonel_Panicaaah... flashplugin-nonfree08:10
Colonel_Panicthat's the ticket!08:10
Colonel_Panicit's still not working08:18
Colonel_Panicrebooting08:19
sd_hallo08:21
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aerealany body help me08:22
aerealplease08:22
keldronahello... I have a problem with a .tar.bz2 file... here are the messages I get:08:22
keldronachris@chris-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo tar zxvf aMule-2.2.2.tar.bz208:22
keldronaPassword:08:22
keldronagzip: stdin: not in gzip format08:22
keldronatar: Child returned status 108:22
keldronatar: Error exit delayed from previous errors08:22
aerealhello.... i have a problem with file sharing in kubuntu08:23
aerealhello.... i have a problem with file sharing in kubuntu08:25
aerealhello.... i have a problem with file sharing in kubuntu .....here are the messages I get:08:25
shentinoah08:26
Colonel_Panicand now, my browser has this annoying XML trag at the bottom, below the status bar08:26
shentinokel: Try "j" instead of "z"08:26
shentinogzip and bzip2 are two different beasts08:26
Colonel_Panicthis makes no sense08:26
Colonel_Panicit just started happening out of the blue, and now I can't fix it08:26
nihlis there a codec for wmv on Linux?08:43
nihl!wmv08:43
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:43
nihlnvm08:45
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Colonel_PanicOK I found the problem09:00
Colonel_Panicfor some reason, when I reinstalled Firefox using Adept, it installed Firefox AND Firefox 309:01
Colonel_Panicwhy? I don't know09:01
Colonel_Panicwhen I uninstalled FF2 and restarted Firefox, it worked fine.09:02
marcobxbro1where to you put a python script so when you go to a terminal and type it is runs?09:12
simihi, i have a problem with a CRT display, i have a dual boot system and in linux the image is draw in part outside of the scrren and my kmenu is not visible and in the right side of the screen it appears a black section that is not used for drawing, can i change this from xorg? if i use the display device menu the image is not drawn correct in windows?09:17
nihl!sox09:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sox09:17
abby87marcobxbro1: in ur home directory09:17
abby87marcobxbro1: no sorry09:18
abby87marcobxbro1: put it in ur PATH09:18
marcobxbro1ok thats what i thought09:18
marcobxbro1ok09:18
marcobxbro1thanks09:18
abby87marcobxbro1: np ;)09:18
marcobxbro1ur path is...09:19
abby87simi: have u tried restarting xserver ctrl+alt09:19
nihl!totem media player09:19
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:19
abby87+bckspace09:19
nihl!totem09:20
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs09:20
nihl!codecs09:20
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:20
dbgltI've removed (with --force) a package, which I have replaced with a manual version. Aptitude/apt-get wants to reinstall it. How can I tell apt-get to ignore the dependency?09:24
jussi01!pinning | dbglt09:26
ubottudbglt: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto09:26
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Darkrift2anyone know why ktorrents download first/last/normal doesnt work?09:44
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Colonel_PanicI'm having some serious problems here10:16
LynoureWhat kind?10:16
Colonel_PanicFirefox is totally fucked10:16
Colonel_Paniclike, won't work10:16
Colonel_PanicI cannot edit my menu items using the menu editor10:16
emilsedgh!language | Colonel_Panic10:17
ubottuColonel_Panic: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.10:17
LynoureColonel_Panic: What did you do to it since last we talked?10:17
Colonel_Panicis there some conf file I can edit to remove entries?10:17
Colonel_PanicI have uninstalled it10:17
Colonel_Paniccompletely10:17
LynoureThen it really should not be a Firefox problem10:18
Colonel_Panicdeleted my ~/.mozilla directory10:18
Colonel_Panicreinstalled it10:18
Lynoureah.10:18
Colonel_Panicit still wouldn't workl, so I uninstalled it again10:18
Colonel_PanicKonqueror hangs my system every time I run it10:18
Colonel_Panicthe only Web browser I have right now is IE under Wine and that crashes all the time10:19
emilsedghColonel_Panic: -safe-mode10:19
LynoureSounds like you could have a memory problem10:19
emilsedghColonel_Panic: run firefox -safe-mode10:19
Colonel_PanicI would need to reinstall it again first10:19
LynoureIt's the most common cause for weird crashes and hangs that span many programs10:19
Colonel_Panicthe only thing I can think of that would have caused this is when I installed Flash and JRE and midi support for Firefox10:20
emilsedghLynoure is right Colonel_Panic, what about running memtest86+ ?10:20
Colonel_Panichow do I do thta?10:21
Colonel_PanicI installed mozplugger10:22
jussi01yes10:22
Colonel_Panicmaybe that's the cause10:22
Colonel_Panichow do I run memtest86+?10:22
Colonel_Panichow  can I uninstall mozplugger?10:22
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Colonel_Panicdamn, it's getting late10:23
Colonel_Panicalso, whenever I log in, my system tray icons appear in the upper left-hand corner of the screen instead of in the system tray10:24
Colonel_Panichow do I uninstall mozplugger?10:25
Colonel_PanicI'm thinking that might be the problem10:25
Colonel_Panicwell... one of the problems10:25
LynoureColonel_Panic: unlikely....10:25
LynoureColonel_Panic: you can run memtest from boot menu after installing it10:26
Colonel_Panichow can I edit the menu without using the manu editor app?10:26
skoleHi!10:26
LynoureColonel_Panic: Ideally at least overnight10:26
Colonel_Panicok how do I install it? sudo apt-get?10:26
LynoureColonel_Panic: sudo apt-get install memtest86+10:27
skoleMy adapt wants to install ubuntu 8.04 Hardy heron, but i'm running kubuntu. What is happening?10:27
Colonel_Panicit's installed10:27
Colonel_Panichow do I run it?10:27
LynoureColonel_Panic: you can run memtest from boot menu after installing it10:27
Colonel_Panicboot menu?10:28
LynoureColonel_Panic: boot menu, just select it with arrow keys10:28
Colonel_Panicoh ok]10:28
LynoureIt cannot run when the system is in normal use10:28
Colonel_Panicso there's nothing I can do to fix the broken links in the menu?10:28
Lynouresorin_: Kubuntu is an Ubuntu10:28
Colonel_PanicI want to remove them10:28
Lynouresorin_: oops, wrong tab complete10:28
Lynoureskole: Kubuntu is an Ubuntu10:29
Lynoureskole: So it might be just telling you there is a 8.04 to upgrade to10:29
sorin_ce ma10:29
skoleAnd is hardy heron better?10:29
LynoureColonel_Panic: Yes, find the broken memory, exchange it10:29
Colonel_PanicLynoure, how can I edit my menu?10:29
Colonel_Panicit's not even certain that that's the problem10:30
LynoureColonel_Panic: If you just want to patch the symptoms and not treat the cause, I really cannot help you10:30
LynoureColonel_Panic: someone else might.10:30
Colonel_Panicthis is a relatively new computer and these problems just started today10:30
Colonel_Panicbut I'll try it10:31
LynoureColonel_Panic: Plenty of new computers arrive with borderline broken memory10:31
Colonel_PanicI built this thing myself10:31
Colonel_PanicI need some damn sleep anyway10:31
Colonel_Panicttyl10:31
skoleIs ubuntu 8.04 better than kubuntu gutsy gibbon?10:32
Alarmgoodmorning. i have installed kubuntu 8.04 with kde3.5.9 . i own a nvidia 8600gs, just installed from the adept installation the NVidia binary X.Org driver ('new' driver) , but i do not see any nvidia logo neither a nvidia configuration utility10:32
Lynoureskole: 8.04, aka Hardy was better at least for me10:36
Lynoureskole: Hibernation that did not work for me in Gutsy started working for me in Hardy again10:36
hamiltonhello10:40
skoleDo anyone have experiance with smart board programs?10:40
hamiltonwhat's is the best Ubuntu or Kubuntu ?10:40
Lynourehamilton: to me is the freedom to change things and to share and contribute10:42
Darkrift2you shoudl go to microsoft and ask them if they like windows or mac more10:42
Darkrift2you are in a kubuntu channel, my GUESS is most ppl in here prefer kubuntu over ubuntu10:42
Lynourehamilton: Oh, if you meant which is best, those are not exclusive10:42
Darkrift2and vice versa if you join #ubuntu10:42
Lynourehamilton: you can have both the Ubuntu and kubuntu desktops, and choose per case which you use. and you can use KDE programs from Gnome and viceversa10:43
Darkrift2i wanna know how im uploading a torrent at 260K when my upload is 2mb10:47
hamiltonwhat's the fast in old machines  KDE or  Gnome10:48
LynoureDarkrift2: it might have some upload limit in the settings, and you would not want to use 100% of your uplink anyway, that would mean no irc...10:48
Darkrift2no, i mean im uploading at almost 4x what my connection should handle10:49
Lynourehamilton: Neither is really ideal for really old machines. How old is your old10:49
LynoureDarkrift2: no, it's K, not M10:49
Darkrift2fastest ive ever gotten on this connection i pay for was 116k upload10:49
Darkrift2i know the different between bits and bytes10:50
Darkrift2i also know the formulas10:50
LynoureDarkrift2: Well, I then just don't understand what you mean10:50
Lynoure260K seems totally typical upload with torrents10:50
Lynoureand it's clearly less than what you said the maximum was (2MB)10:51
skoleI have a question about downloading smart board software. Under system requirements it says that I need ubuntu 6.06. Will it work with Kubuntu 8.04?10:51
Darkrift2erm, sorry, 450k, not 250k10:51
Darkrift2and it peaked at 650k for about 20 seconds straight10:52
Darkrift2the 450k was sustained for over 2 minutes10:52
Darkrift2its just a lot faster than any speeds ive gotten before10:52
LynoureDarkrift2: just enjoy it :)10:52
Darkrift2oh, i will lol10:52
skoleThe adress to smart board is: http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/Support/Downloads/SBS/SBSv97Linux.htm10:54
Lynoureskole: oh, that's one of those cool whiteboards...10:56
Lynoureskole: I've never had the chance to play with them, but if the manufacturer offers Linux software for them, I'd expect them to support any problems you have related, too. Though people here can probably help with some things10:58
skoleyes! And I don't want to use MS windows. I had a problem downloading the linux version of the program package I need to make my computer work. Now I'm doownloading kubuntu 8.04, and then we will see :)10:59
Lynoureskole: seems they require registration for download...11:00
skoleyes, but not fore a trial period of 30 days.11:00
Lynoureskole: it asks me for all sorts of info even for just http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/Support/Downloads/download.htm?file=software%2fSBS%2flinux%2f9.7680%2fsmartboardsoftware9.7.68.0.package.tar.gz&referrer=SBS%2fSBSv97Linux&eula=111:02
skoleIm at 65% of my 8.04 download... i'm not checking anything right now :)11:03
Lynoureskole: If you cannot download it at all, best to contact the company. I don't think Kubuntu comes with any SmartTech tools, though maybe you can use it with some normal office suites11:03
Lynoureskole: :)11:04
skoleThe problem last time was not the download, but running the program. I got a bug message. I'm hoping that 8.04 will help me. I can not prolong using the damn thing any longer. My pupils are starting to get anoying!11:06
Lynoureskole: Do you remember what the error was?11:06
Lynoureskole: If it is the SmartTech program misbehaving, then it's clearly their problem, but if it's something with permissions or missing libraries, that's easier11:08
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WasTe[Bre]i need help, i was try in to install kubuntu 7.10 and 8.04 and both instalation at 50% shows error11:12
chrrrHas anyone attempted to use windows dynamic partitions while in ubuntu?11:12
Lynourehasty, hasty.11:13
skoleIt is a tar.gz file, and I think I have to use the terminal window to istall it. But I am not a good terminal window user :)11:17
siegieskole: is there no .deb file?11:17
Lynoureskole: yes, you are right.  tar -zxf filename will unpack it, and usually inside there is a README file or something that gives step by step for the installation11:18
keldronaI have a problem. I'm trying to install xwWidgets but when I write "sudo ./configure", it exits this message:11:32
keldronachecking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... no11:32
keldrona*** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...11:32
keldrona*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the11:32
keldrona*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.11:32
keldronaconfigure: error:11:32
jpdskeldrona: Install: libgtk2.0-dev and please use pastebin.ubuntu.com next time.11:33
keldrona(i have used paste.ubuntu.com)11:33
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WaStE[bRe]am instaling kubuntu but instalatio 7.10 and 8.04 shows error at 50% [dvd read fault]11:44
WaStE[bRe]but evrythin work fine11:44
Pliskin hi :) my superkaramba wigdets do not appear :/ help ?11:45
Pliskin(sorry for my english11:45
PliskinI am using KDE3.5.1011:45
Caemyrhiya11:48
Caemyrcould you please keep your trolls locked up properly?11:49
Caemyrone of them, nicked sebastian_, has managed to get out11:49
Caemyrand troll on #windows11:49
Caemyrthanks in advance11:49
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harpreethow i compress files?11:54
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sbucatharpreet: ark11:58
sbucatharpreet: select files --right butto11:59
sbucatbutton11:59
harpreetsbuca11:59
sbucatcmpress to---11:59
harpreetsbucat: no that does not work..11:59
sbucat:S11:59
sbucathave u ark ?11:59
rickymplhi, trying to upgrade to 8.04 using adept, but the version upgrade button does not appear.12:00
sbucatharpreet: sudo apt-get install ark12:00
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sbucatharpreet: maybe better             sudo apt-get install --reinstall ark12:02
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harpreetsbucat, thank you , let me try12:04
piero_Ohi12:04
keldronasorry guys, still getting this message:12:13
keldronaIf you still get this error, then check that 'wx-config' is12:13
keldrona    in path, the directory where wxWidgets libraries are installed12:13
keldrona    (returned by 'wx-config --libs' command) is in LD_LIBRARY_PATH12:13
keldrona    or equivalent variable and wxWidgets version is 2.8.0 or above.12:13
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skoleIm upgrading my system from gutsy to kubuntu 8.04, but it stops at 75 %, What to do?12:18
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skoleIt says if i terminte the upgrade, my system might not work after it12:23
abaddonhi12:23
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AcidUkhow do i find out the device my usb modem is connected as Ie /dev/modem  ?12:24
darkbring__hello12:24
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darkbring__using the 'mount' command12:25
skoleMy update to kubuntu 8.04 stalled at 75%, What to do?12:29
wiehanskole: I'm not sure but can't you do sudo apt-get upgrade -f12:31
skoleIm trying it now. thx12:32
wiehanthe updater is quite smart, it has happened to me before as well, It will sort it self out, even if you restart your computer before finishing the upgrade12:32
wiehanit just continues later on12:33
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skoleIt returns :E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is anither process using it?12:34
wiehanwell.. I'm not sure, but I won't worry if I were you, read the above posts I wrote12:35
WaSTe[bRe]i downloaded mozilla firefox 3.01 and i put icon od desktop and ist shell scriipt, how to put icons firefox?12:36
wiehanHow to speak the English12:36
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: Sorry, I have difficulty understanding the question.12:36
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: You want to put what icon where?12:37
WaSTe[bRe]ok sorry for my english ill explain better12:37
WaSTe[bRe]when i downloaded firefox, i dont know how to install it, and when i run firefox.sh, firefox loded and functional, i put that file [frefox.sh] on my desktop as a shortcut12:38
WaSTe[bRe]and it has icon as a shell script, how to put to be firefox icon instead shell script12:38
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: you can install firefox 3 through Adept, or just by  sudo aptitude install firefox-3.012:39
WaSTe[bRe]i run Adept12:40
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: no need to install it from a script or a source code. It has been there, packaged for your Kubuntu already12:40
WaSTe[bRe]how to instal mozilla from here?12:40
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: easiest is just to type   sudo12:40
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: easiest is just to type                    aptitude install firefox-3.012:40
Lynoureoops12:40
WaSTe[bRe]? :D12:40
Lynouresudo aptitude install firefox-3.012:40
wincidehi all12:40
WaSTe[bRe]for konsole?12:40
WaSTe[bRe]from*12:40
abaddonyes12:41
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: yes, it will ask you password, then install, and put it in your menu and all12:41
wincidei work at greece and i need my kubuntu to read greek alphabet ... even in console, not only X. Now it's UTF8 but doesn't work.. any idea ??12:42
WaSTe[bRe]should i enter the mozilla dir and type sudo aptitude... or ???12:42
abaddonWaSTe[bRe]: no12:42
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: it is not picky what directory you are in12:42
WaSTe[bRe]E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:43
WaSTe[bRe]E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:43
WaSTe[bRe]Reading package lists... Done12:43
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: you cannot have adept open at the same time, sorry forgot to say12:43
WaSTe[bRe]Building dependency tree12:43
WaSTe[bRe]Reading state information... Done12:43
WaSTe[bRe]Initializing package states... Done12:43
WaSTe[bRe]Building tag database... Done12:43
WaSTe[bRe]E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:43
WaSTe[bRe]E: Unable to loc12:43
WaSTe[bRe]this what i get12:43
WaSTe[bRe]Lynoure thnx a lot12:44
WaSTe[bRe]its instaling now12:44
WaSTe[bRe]u are the MAN! :D12:44
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: I hope not... I'm a woman :)12:44
abaddon:P12:44
WaSTe[bRe]:D12:44
WaSTe[bRe]u are the WOMAN! :D12:44
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: Heh, glad to be of service12:45
WaSTe[bRe]with thad sudo adopt install < i can install all program i download?12:45
WaSTe[bRe]aptitude*12:46
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: not all, but extremely many12:46
WaSTe[bRe]thnx12:47
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: all those show somewhere in adept too, but I'm less good with adept. I tend to do  apt-cache search foobar  to search.12:47
WaSTe[bRe]doh?12:48
WaSTe[bRe]:D12:48
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: If you can't find something there, then ask here, someone might know where you can get it as a .deb package for (K)ubuntu12:48
WaSTe[bRe]am newbie12:48
WaSTe[bRe]ill first search for repository .deb12:49
keldrona...12:49
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: The good thing about being a newbie is that everyone has been a newbie once and it does not last very long12:50
WaSTe[bRe]true :D12:50
WaSTe[bRe]nobody was born with knowleage12:50
WaSTe[bRe]:D12:50
Lynoure:)12:50
AcidUkany one know how to find where ur device is , ie /dev/modem etc i have a speedtouch  modem via usb , kernal can see it bit I know what device its on to configure KPPP12:50
WaSTe[bRe]how to mount ntfs file system in linux [i have windows partitions]12:51
LynoureAcidUk: Speedtouch was somewhat hasslesome when I last paid attention to it, but that was some years back. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch might be helpful or totally obsolete12:52
WaSTe[bRe]ok works fine now12:53
abaddonAcidUk: u have neostrada?12:53
LynoureWaSTe[bRe]: If you had it when you installed, chances are it mounts already. Check under /media12:54
WaSTe[bRe]yup works now12:55
AcidUk<Lynoure.> will take a look and Abaddon no I hav't12:55
_oggywhat's the smallest metapackage for gnome in kubuntu? gnome-core or is there something smaller?12:57
WaSTe[bRe]can i install .rpm file [in this case flash addon for mozilla]?12:59
dr_willisWaSTe[bRe],   you really DONT want to use a rpm for flash13:00
WaSTe[bRe]tar.gz?13:00
WaSTe[bRe]to unpack it and run?13:01
dr_willisWaSTe[bRe],  you can install flash from the reposiutories without doing all that work with tar.gz or rpms13:01
WaSTe[bRe]dr_willis how?13:02
dr_willisI belive the package 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' will install  the forrect flash and a fe3w other pacakges you will want for full multimedia support.. OR go read the !flash factoud url13:02
dr_willis!flash13:02
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash13:02
dr_willisKubuntu Tip #4 - you RARELY need to go to web sites and 'download stuff to install' the package manager should be the first place you look13:03
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WaSTe[bRe]Enable the Multiverse repository if you have not yet done so.13:12
WaSTe[bRe]Install the package flashplugin-nonfree.13:12
WaSTe[bRe]Restart your web browser. Flash should now work.13:12
WaSTe[bRe]install the package flashplugon-nonfree i cant find it13:12
WaSTe[bRe]where to find it?13:12
WaSTe[bRe]i found it13:14
WaSTe[bRe]:D13:14
dr_willisafter enabling repositories.. always 'sudo apt-get update' :) and perhaps 'sudo apt-get upgrade' befor installing anything else13:15
dr_willisif you know the package name 'sudo apt-get install PACKAGE-Name13:15
WaSTe[bRe]i found it in Adopt13:16
WaSTe[bRe]and installed and its working :d13:16
dr_willismuch easier then messing with  rpm's and tar.gz's eh?13:26
mrxmikebrothers :P, yesterday i had to reinstall the 24.19 kernel, unfortunately - i dont have sound anymore13:27
mrxmike00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2)13:29
mrxmikeit doesnt look like my drive module is loaded, i dont see it in lsmod either13:31
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dr_willisboot live cd/ see if sound works.. see what modules its loading13:32
dr_willisthen try manually loading the same ones. :)13:32
mrxmikeit works with live cd13:32
mrxmikeit worked till yesterday............... > till i had to reinstall my kernel13:33
dr_willislive cd's are so handy13:33
mrxmike(via repos)13:33
DragnslcrI've had this happen before. I think it was because the kernel version of the modules package didn't match the kernel13:37
DragnslcrSomething like the modules being -i386 and the kernel being -generic13:37
dr_willisDragnslcr,  Ive seen simting like that in beta.. but never noticed why13:37
DragnslcrYeah, I never figured out how it happened13:38
DragnslcrSomething to check for, though13:38
arte_fftgg13:39
keldronadoes anyone could help me whit the wxconfig --unicode?13:48
FicaBlok38hello, how to upgrade from Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE4 to 8.10 Alpha 5?13:48
FicaBlok38anybody?13:53
mrxmikeare there any newer kernels i can test?13:53
mrxmike(experimental)?13:53
mrxmike.. i dont wanna bake them myself though13:53
mrxmikewhat package contains the snd-hda-intel kernel module?13:57
dr_willis!find snd-hda-intel14:00
ubottuFile snd-hda-intel found in Use, of, uninitialized, value, in (and 32 others)14:00
dr_willisPoor bot..14:00
mrxmikeit needs a spanking14:00
dr_willis!spank14:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about spank14:00
FicaBlok38hello, how to upgrade from Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE4 to 8.10 Alpha 5?14:04
Roeyhi14:04
dr_willisFicaBlok38,  i would check Ubuntu+1 for upgrade guides/urls/info14:04
RoeyI've installed the kde4 desktop; how do I start konqueror from KDE4 instead of Konqueror 3.5.9?14:04
dr_willisand i dont reccomend upgrading at this time.. Unless you just want to tryit for fun14:04
Roeyhey dr_willis14:05
dr_willisRoey,  i was thinking most of the kde4-aps had -kde4 in their names.14:05
dr_williskonq<tab> perhaps?14:05
Roeydr_willis:  yeah but I don't see a konqueror-kde414:05
Roeydr_willis:  yeah I tried14:05
Roeybtw, I read "guids/urls/info" as girls/info14:05
dr_willisPerhaps its not called that any more. isent it dolphin now?14:05
Roey"I would check Ubuntu+1 for girls/info"14:05
Roeydr_willis:  dolphin is the file manager; Konqueror is still the web browser14:06
dr_willisRoey,  no idea then. I rareky use konq. as a web browser.14:06
Roeyah ok14:07
s0101anybody who knows how to change menu colour after installing gnome-color-chooser from synaptic?14:21
dr_willisThe kde menus? Theres the color settings/teme customization tool to set those colors...14:22
dr_willisnot surwe what that has to do with your gnomecolorchooser tool.14:22
s0101but i have installed gnome-color-chooser because i just want to change the colur14:23
s0101the themes can sometimes frezze etc14:23
s0101i need some instructions14:23
dr_willisgnome color chooser just lets you click on a color on the srceen and it shows you what color it is in the  gnome-color-choser program I thought14:25
dr_willisit dosent actually 'change' any colors.14:25
s0101so how can i change them?14:26
dr_willisThe kde menus? Theres the color settings/teme customization tool to set those colors...14:26
s0101where can i find it?14:26
dr_willisExplore the themes/appearances tools thers a  color tool in there somewhere14:26
s0101ok14:26
s0101thanks going to try14:27
dotancohen#kopete14:27
colineHeii !14:30
s0101do you know how to make the menus transparent i have managed to do that with the panel but the menus are still orginal14:30
s0101i accualy found the colour tool but that dosent let me make them transparent14:31
dr_willisI think you have to enable the composite extension to get transparent stuff like that.14:32
dr_willisor use ccsm/compiz perhaps14:32
s0101ok14:33
s0101cheers14:33
s0101ccsm dosent let me change anything of course i see all the options but when i change nothing happends14:37
dr_willissome times it gets 'stuck' and changes dont take admient effect.  I recall useing the 'flat file' for settings under general tab helped that.. but i  thought they had fixed that issue.14:40
Caracasa channel in Spanish14:50
Caracas-----14:50
Caracasestan mudo o que14:51
bibsthaanyone with openjdk and java appets running in ff?14:54
shadowhywindError: "/var/tmp/kdecache-shadowhywind" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.14:57
shadowhywindopss14:57
shadowhywindhay all i am running into this error when i do a sudo command any ideas?14:58
Caracaspon xp14:58
Caracasformatea el pc14:58
s0101i have some problems related to when i uninstalled compiz15:20
s0101after restart all my windows are in the top of the screen so i cant see file edit etc15:21
s0101compiz has cut of a part of the window15:22
HUNTER_byteIs any disk partitioning program with a frontend on Kubuntu LiveDVD?15:22
s0101i cant minimize the windows15:23
linkleguerierHi/Salut15:23
s0101at the moment i am thinking about win xp15:24
s0101:(15:26
s0101plz help i just want my old settings from before i installed compiz15:28
dr_willisYou shouldent of unintalled compiz. you should of just disabled it.15:29
s0101should i install it again?15:29
dr_willistheres some fix for removing it proerly but i forget what it is.15:30
s0101everything went slow with compiz15:30
dr_willisthe COmpiz support channel is the place to ask perhaps..15:30
dr_willis!compiz15:30
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion15:30
dr_willisI dont use compiz any more. as a 'quick' fix, you could do alt-f2 and run 'kwin --replace' perhaps.15:30
strange_Прив15:32
dr_willis!ru15:32
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:32
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darth_chatrii'm trying to get the guidance power manager to work with a WM called ion. when i suspend (to ram) the screen doesnt get locked. do i need to start some service to do this?15:49
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dotancohenDoes anyone know how to configure Kopete to close tabs on middle click in KDE 3.x?16:01
dotancohenThis works for konqueror: kwriteconfig --file konquerorrc --group "FMSettings" --key MouseMiddleClickClosesTab --type bool true16:02
dotancohenBut I'd like similar behaviour for Kopete as well.16:02
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linux_всем привет16:09
ghostcube!ru16:09
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke16:09
sonofusion82hello..  i m currently using hardy with KDE416:18
sonofusion82i m wondering if there is a list of mirrors for ppa.launchpad.net?16:18
dthackerHi,  I'm looking for recommendations for a Bayesian spam filter to use with kontact.  What packages have you found that work well?16:21
kayhello16:21
shadowhywindwhere is the dolphin service menu file? I can't seam to find it16:22
mindspinafter upgrading to hardy, I am not more able to access my camera, when I plug in the camera, it is recognized but I get the error. klauncher: unknown protocol "camera"16:43
Denisedolphins live in bands16:44
mindspinfurhermore, I am unable to booz any of the 2.6.24 kernels the machine always hangs16:45
mindspinboot16:45
darwinghola como esta16:45
mindspinany idea how to fix that camera issue?16:46
elenihelp, i changed screen, i have the correct analysis, drivers, fonts BUT 1- i see very ugly and unclear all the fonts (can't read) 2-i cannot see any other fonts but english although i have installed other languages too (greek) any ideas? thanx in advance16:58
eleni(my encoding is ok too)17:00
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tclevali cant make ARK open RAR files, how can i fix that?17:07
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peluzak3b ya lo tengo17:33
peluzadesde hace rato17:33
peluzapero no se utilizarlo17:34
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Colonel_PanicWell, I just completed memtest86+17:43
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Colonel_Panicno memory errors17:43
Colonel_Panicwhy will the KDE menu editor not edit the menus?17:45
Colonel_PanicI'm trying to remove the links to Firefox 2 and Firefox 317:46
Colonel_Panicwhy will the KDE menu editor not edit the menus?17:49
Colonel_PanicI'm trying to remove the links to Firefox 2 and Firefox 317:49
dal-homehey all, anyone know of a way to set up konqueror so that if I've already got a file copy or move process running any subsequent file copies or moves that I tell it to do are held in a queue until the first one is finished?17:54
gebritoBuenos Dias17:58
gebritosoy nueva en kubuntu 8.04, alguien  me puede ayudar con una dudaç17:58
gebritocomo puedo comparti mi iimpresora con otras dos maquinas en red17:58
gebritoque tienen ubuntu 8.04 instalado17:59
gebritola impresora esta en mi kunbuntu y es una hp deskjet 810c17:59
BluesKaj!es, gebrito17:59
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about es, gebrito17:59
BluesKaj!es17:59
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:59
gebritoauch, este canal ha sido en ingles,18:00
gebritogracias , ya me cambio18:00
gebrito <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es, gebrito, I'm a new kubuntu user18:01
gebritothaks folks18:01
gebritowe see the next time18:01
azizwhat was the command for listing the size of the contents of a folder?18:03
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m_tadeuhi everyon18:07
m_tadeuI'm having a bt of a problem with my kmix18:08
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m_tadeuthe master channel is not controling my sound as a whole18:08
m_tadeuso if the master channel value is 0 I still have sound18:08
m_tadeuand have to set pcm too18:08
sybuxHi all, I'm looking for a good usenet newsreader with automatic binary reassamble if possible18:09
kbÜberarbeitete Zitatesammlung! Powered by Ruby on Rails! Code by klausbyte, hosted by airbuspilot :o :) http://bash.gentoo64.net !!18:21
kbawrum ist amsg in konversation immer für alle channels in allen netzwerken oO dasi st schon das zweite mal das mir so eine peinlichkeit entsteht18:22
KiDFlaShhallo18:23
Colonel_PanicI can't edit my manu items18:23
Colonel_Panicmenu18:23
BluesKajkb !de18:33
BluesKaj!de18:33
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:33
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vasy_hi18:36
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vasyhi18:36
BluesKajColonel_Panic, right click on the kicker icon and choose menu editor18:36
anom01yhuys Im having an issue with my alsa. At first I was told to remove my tv tuner card because it might be confusing alsa, so I did that,18:38
Colonel_PanicOK I did that18:38
Colonel_PanicI edit the menu and hit nsave, but it doesn't make the changes18:38
anom01ybut I still get the same problems, it seems as though flash videos kill alsa, then I use alsaconf to fix and it says "can't find any pnp devices"18:38
anom01y"no PNP or PCI card found"18:39
Colonel_Panicif I upgrade to KDE4, would that fix the problems?18:44
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anom01ywhy do I have to reset the computer just to get alsa to work ????????18:52
anom01yalsa-conf doesnt detect anything, alsa force-reload does nothing... but if I reset, It will have around 75% chance of working18:54
Colonel_Panicif I upgrade to KDE4, will that be likely to solve my problems with the menu?18:56
anom01yColonel_Panic: I've never been able to get any help here18:58
anom01ybut whats the problem with the menu ?18:58
Colonel_Panichow reassuring19:00
Colonel_PanicI've gotten some help occasionally19:00
anom01y!alsa19:00
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP319:00
Colonel_PanicI can't edit my menu entries19:00
Colonel_Panicmenu editor either doesn't work at all or it hangs when I hit the Save button19:00
anom01yohh really thats weird, what about on another user ?19:00
Colonel_PanicI only have one user19:01
Colonel_Panicon the system19:01
anom01yhmm I had that problem once, trying to think what you could do to fix it19:01
Colonel_Panicshold I create another user space?19:01
anom01yyou could try, and if that works19:02
anom01yhmm one sec..19:02
anom01yyou might be able to copy ~/.kde from the new user to the current user (you'd have to change all the permissions over though)19:02
anom01yColonel_Panic: was it always like that ?19:03
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TheMaxzillaHow do you get the Mac-like doc on Kubuntu / Ubuntu? What's the package name?19:11
starenkawhat is mac-like doc19:12
bdizzleI keep having this problem with the screensaver that when it asks me for my password to unlock, the screensaver goes over the password box, making me have to do it without being able to see the box19:13
TheMaxzillastarenka: It's exactly like this, on the bottom of the screen. ( http://blog.myfenris.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/desktop.png )19:14
TheMaxzillaI think it's what Macintosh computers have...19:15
starenkaTheMaxzilla: you mean DOCK??19:15
starenka:))19:15
TheMaxzillaWhoops, yes. :D19:16
starenkaAWN Dock19:16
starenkai guess19:16
starenkamaybe there are more19:16
Nece228does ubuntu 8.10 will have better ati proprietary drivers?19:16
starenkaTheMaxzilla: i stumbled upon one article.. lemme find it http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2008/05/transforming-your-ubuntu-804-desktop-to.html19:17
starenkastarenka: it metions awn dock too19:17
avihayb!ןך19:19
avihayb!il19:19
ubottuלשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד:19:19
TheMaxzillastarenka: Thanks, it seems to work.19:19
ubottu/join #ubuntu-il19:19
avihayb!mythtv19:20
ubottuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV19:20
avihayb!mythubuntu19:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mythubuntu19:20
avihaybmehh19:20
Nece228omg why mythbuntu theme have ripped xp zune style metacity theme19:23
avihaybto make it easyer to tansition from whatever the other thing is?19:24
abaddonhi19:29
abaddonwhat isbether qt3 or 4?19:29
Nece228abaddon: i think qt419:30
abaddonNece228: i try to build SuperKaramba and i have checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!19:32
abaddonbut when i install libqt4-drv i have still this error19:33
abaddonok solved19:34
SkEmObbl, have fun kthanksbye19:40
aswinhi how do i change the system sound in 8.0419:47
artur_When I try to start Kubuntu 8.04 in LiveCD mode, after choosing in the menu, is showed a screen having in the top the following:  BusyBox v1.1.2 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built-in shell... and many other things. What is it?19:50
floownhello19:51
floownwhat should I install in KDE4 to have a nice design with some GTK application like Firefox ?19:52
anshuwow! I see questions, but no answers!19:53
artur_and (initramfs), that i can type commands after.19:53
slow-motionhi19:55
anshuhey slow motion19:55
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carutsuhello, I'm using KDE4.1, how can I activate Key compositing?19:56
carutsualso known as "dead keys"19:58
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stinkyNyggerhi20:16
stinkyNygger i have celeron with 512MB sdram and PCI nvidia card20:16
stinkyNyggerwhat is the latest desktop cube/eye candy?  xgl, beryl, compiz ?20:16
davidedmundsoncompiz20:16
stinkyNyggerdavidedmundson:  thanx, why so many of them ?20:17
davidedmundsonxgl is a technology that allows beryl/compiz to work. It is now built in20:17
davidedmundsonso that leaves two20:17
stinkyNyggerahh20:17
davidedmundsonthere was compiz20:17
davidedmundsonthen some people wanted to have effects that made everything look like it was on fire all the time20:17
davidedmundsonso the compiz people said "no, this is about usability fuck off"20:17
stinkyNyggerid hate to spend a day figuring out how to install compiz and fiddling with linux shit. and then a week later a new one comes out.20:17
davidedmundsonso they made beryl20:17
davidedmundsonbut in the process of adding all this "bling" they made the rest of it faster and better20:18
davidedmundsonbecause of this it all formed back into one project20:18
davidedmundsonsimply "compiz"20:18
stinkyNyggeroh ok20:18
davidedmundsonso there's just one20:18
stinkyNyggerthanx pal20:18
artur_When I try to start Kubuntu 8.04 in LiveCD mode, after choosing in the menu, is showed a screen having in the top the following:  BusyBox v1.1.2 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built-in shell... and many other things. What is it?20:53
artur_and (initramfs), that i can type commands after.20:53
MrKennieartur_: might be worth selecting the "check cd for defects"20:57
artur_MrKennie: i think there's no defect cause i've used the same cd to install in my laptop, and now, i'm using the linux.21:00
MrKennieartur_: this might be of some help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83464021:02
starenkahi mounting a nfs share. exports are set as /print * (rw,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,sync) target and source dirs have nobody:nogroup and 777. still if i mount the ntfs i cant write into the dir.. any clues?21:03
artur_MrKennie: Thanks.21:05
emiliafaneitehahaha21:06
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starenka{bump} any clues? pretty plz21:08
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starenkasolved21:12
starenkasorry21:12
starenka:)21:12
ibkanatis there a reason that i cant access my dvd?  cd works fine but cant read dvd.  I installed the kubuntu restricted21:13
ibkanatcould my fstab be messed up21:13
MrKenniedoubt that21:15
ibkanatwhen I go to system settings disk filesystems it shows the drive but shows disabled when I go into administrator mode and clikc modify it gets enabled automatcially21:15
ibkanatbut shows the device as proc21:15
MrKennieibkanat: can you browse the dvd using dolphin file manager?21:15
ibkanatwhat should I do???? Been searching and searching21:16
ibkanatMrKennie no21:16
ibkanatlibdvd read and nav are installed21:16
MrKennieibkanat: is this a dvd movie?21:16
ibkanatYeah21:16
MrKennieibkanat: I see, use kaffeine and press the play dvd button21:17
ibkanatdoesnt work21:17
ibkanatneither does vlc21:17
ibkanatused too21:17
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MrKennieibkanat: does it complain about libdvdcss?21:17
ibkanatdid before doesnt now21:17
MrKennieyou've added the medibuntu repository and installed libdvdcss2 right?21:18
ibkanatoh wait just put in a dvd data and dolphin reads21:18
MrKennieit should at least be able to browse even a movie21:19
ibkanatmedibuntu?21:19
MrKennie!medibuntu | ibkanat21:19
ubottuibkanat: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org21:19
ibkanatahh21:20
ibkanatthanks21:20
MrKennienp21:20
MrKenniewow it's quiet in here tonight21:24
davidedmundsonis anyone here running Intrepid?21:25
MrKennienot yet21:25
MrKennienot me anyway21:25
mcashi21:25
davfiguenot intrepid yet21:26
mcasi have a fresh intrepid installation and the color of my kde icon changes from blue to red to blue21:26
mcascan anyone tell me why i have this?21:26
davidedmundsonmcas: fantastic. Could you bust open Dragon Player for me, and confirm it laods21:26
mcasdavidedmundson: it loads21:27
davidedmundsonthanks :-)21:27
mcascan you help me with my problem?21:27
MrKenniemcas: I think this is the wrong channel for intrepid related stuff21:27
Daisuke_Idomcas, davidedmundson: intrepidhelp in #ubuntu+121:27
davidedmundsonis there a kubuntu+1 ?21:28
Daisuke_Idono21:28
Daisuke_Idothey're the same OS21:28
mcasok i have this problem with hardy, too :-)21:28
Daisuke_Idojust a different DE21:28
Daisuke_Idomcas: no idea21:28
davidedmundsonyeah I know, but if it's very KDE app specific questions, I can understand them getting annoyed21:28
davidedmundsonme neither I'm afraid.21:28
Daisuke_Idodavidedmundson: if it's intrepid related, that's the place for it, whether gnome or kde21:29
davidedmundsonok. thanks21:29
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Gast111entschuldigung , falscher channel schönen abend noch22:02
artur_I have a problem when a plug my USB Flashdisk. When I do this, that window where i select what i want to do (Open in a New Window, With DigiKam, ...), but when a choose Open in a New Window, the konqueror is started in the location "system:/media/sdb1" and an error dialog is showed with a message about "Denied Permissions". And then i have to mount in the Konsole and use 'kdesu konqueror /media/sdb1/' to be able to manage the Flash disk contents.22:02
artur_I have a problem when a plug my USB Flashdisk. When I do this, that window where i select what i want to do (Open in a New Window, With DigiKam, ...), but when a choose Open in a New Window, the konqueror is started in the location "system:/media/sdb1" and an error dialog is showed with a message about "Denied Permissions". And then i have to mount in the Konsole and use 'kdesu konqueror /media/sdb1/' to be able to manage the Flash disk contents.22:06
user__yo22:17
ign0ramushey all.  stupid question - how do i stop the screen from going black after a certain amount of time (ie, 10 minutes)?  I've disabled the screen saver, but the display (laptop) will still turn off22:19
ign0ramusPower Manager doesn't seem to have an option for this22:20
artur_I have a problem when a plug my USB Flashdisk. When I do this, that window where i select what i want to do (Open in a New Window, With DigiKam, ...), but when a choose Open in a New Window, the konqueror is started in the location "system:/media/sdb1" and an error dialog is showed with a message about "Denied Permissions". And then i have to mount in the Konsole and use 'kdesu konqueror /media/sdb1/' to be able to manage the Flash disk contents.22:20
Hamra!pim22:23
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pim22:23
Hamra!info kdepim22:23
ubottukdepim (source: kdepim): Personal Information Management apps from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 28 kB, installed size 68 kB22:23
ign0ramusartur_: what filesystem is the flash drive formatted as (NTFS, ext3, etc)?22:25
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seanHey, anyone here with a ATI Radeon 9200??22:31
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artur_ign0ramus: I'm not sure, but as I often use it in windows of other computers , i guess it is NTFS or FAT22:31
artur_ign0ramus: how could i asure?22:31
ign0ramusartur_: if it is NTFS you, need ntfs-3g22:32
ign0ramus*  sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g  *22:32
favrosudo fdisk -l will tell what format it is22:32
artur_ign0ramus: i tried this command and i saw that i already have this installed here.22:33
artur_favro: thank's22:33
favronp22:33
ign0ramusartur_: have you tried chmod'ing?22:34
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ign0ramusartur_: what filesystem is it?  from what i've read, you cannot set permissions on a FAT filesystem...22:36
artur_ign0ramus: /dev/sdb1               1        7872     2015216    e  W95 FAT16 (LBA)22:36
artur_ign0ramus: is it?  FAT16 =/  ?22:37
ign0ramusartur_: So it is FAT... that may be the problem.  Backup what you need on it, and reformat it as NTFS or FAT3222:37
favroartur_: in konsloe type   groups   and see if you are in plugdev group22:37
artur_favro:22:39
artur_$ groups22:39
artur_artur adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev22:39
artur_my username is 'artur'22:39
ign0ramusyou are in plugdev.  that's good.22:39
ign0ramusartur_: are you able to copy the flash drive's contents and reformat?22:40
artur_ign0ramus: what i can't understand is that some time ago, the flash disk used to be mounted normally...22:40
artur_ign0ramus: yes, i could do this.22:40
ign0ramusartur: Upon reading the forums, some people have blamed kernel upgrades, but i'm not sure...22:40
artur_ign0ramus: oic. i'll try to reformat first.22:43
favroartur_: personally I wouldn't reformat - it won't help withe permissions - I would let the drive mount then do   sudo chown -Rv yourloginname:yourloginname /media/sdb122:55
artur_favro: before, when the flash disk used to be mounted normally, a folder used to be created first with the device name and then the name showed was changed to pen drive's name. But now i even don't have a folder associated with the flash disk, so there's no /media/sdX23:02
artur_favro: so i did what you've suggested but with /dev/sdX, but nothing changed23:03
favroartur_: so you have to manually mount it?23:04
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artur_favro: ok23:05
favroartur_: the drive is /dev/sdb1 - from sudo fdisk -l above ^ - so I would   sudo mkdir -v /media/flashdisk23:06
favroartur_: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/flashdisk23:07
favroto mount the disk in the new dir23:07
favroartur_: then   sudo chown -Rv yourloginname:yourloginname /media/flashdisk23:08
favroand it should be writable23:08
MitsuoDeshoDeshono sound23:10
MitsuoDeshoDeshoany ideas?23:10
favro!sound23:10
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP323:10
artur_favro: when i tried this last command, a message about Error to change the own and about Operation not allowed was showed for each directory, sub-directory and files. Let's give up man. Thank's for the attention.23:12
HenryHeronHi, can someone please tell me if once I install kubuntu desktop over my ubuntu 8.04.1, that: one, I am able to access my ubuntu installed programs: & two, if I can safely uninstall it if it (kubuntu) presents unforseen problems? Thanks.23:12
favrok23:12
MitsuoDeshoDeshogot 2x HDA Intel(ALC883 Analog) both grayed out23:12
artur_favro: i'm very thankful for the attention!23:15
favroartur_: np :)23:15
favroMitsuoDeshoDesho: lsmod | grep intel  return anything?23:15
MitsuoDeshoDeshofavro, yes, among the lines snd_hda_intel 344600 423:23
HenryHeronDon't mean to be rude, but is there someone here who has a couple of minutes to answer a couple of ?s  ?23:24
favroMitsuoDeshoDesho: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=845331 - says solved23:26
ign0ramusHenryHeron: You can install kubuntu-desktop and still access all your regular files and you can uninstall with no repercussios23:26
favroHenryHeron: !puregnome23:27
favrooops23:27
favro!puregnome23:27
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome »23:27
HenryHeronign0ramus: Great, thank you... one more, I accidentally down loaded the kde desktop (with another kde program) & the installer would not install because of a conflict with GNOMEppp (I use dial-up) is there some way round this?23:29
davidedmundsonHenryHeron: simple solution - uninstall the app it conflicted wtih.23:30
ign0ramusHenryHeron: You can use KPPP instead if you want to try Kubuntu out, and always go back to GNOMEppp if you don't like it23:30
davidedmundsonconflicts are a mechanism of making sure you don't have two apps fight over something and do something silly23:30
davidedmundsonwrite down everything you install/uninstall then you'll be fine :-)23:30
HenryHeronign0ramus: & ubottu: & all Thanks much, I'll give it a try!23:31
ign0ramusHenryHeron: ubottu is a bot23:31
ign0ramus!botsnack23:31
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!23:31
davidedmundson:-)23:31
davidedmundsondamn, a bot just made me laugh..23:32
ign0ramusgets me every time, as well :)23:32
davidedmundsondoes it have others?23:32
davidedmundson!botsnack23:32
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!23:32
davidedmundsonaw23:32
HenryHeronign0ramus: thanks for the warning, I won't take its advice too seriously :)23:33
ign0ramustbh, i don't know that much about ubottu... but if its a typical IRC bot, here are some docs: http://l.armory.com/~cerise/cabinet23:33
ign0ramusHenryHeron: ubottu is a great reference point.  You can use it to find info about KDE apps and such23:34
ign0ramus!kde23:34
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde423:34
davidedmundson!kde423:34
ubottuKDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde423:34
davidedmundson!dragonplayer23:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dragonplayer23:34
davidedmundson!life, the universe and everything23:35
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:35
HenryHeronign0ramus: I also just received the "live cd" is there a major updating after using this for install?23:35
ign0ramusHenryHeron: is it 8.04? Then yeah, there will be a bunch of package updates23:36
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ign0ramusHenryHeron: if you have updated and upgraded in a few weeks, there will be a bunch of package updates, though.23:36
ign0ramus*if you haven't23:36
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HenryHeronYikes... it was a two & a half day down load with ubuntu 8.04!23:37
ign0ramusHenryHeron: You don't need to update at all if everything is working for you.  There are still plenty of people using Dapper.23:37
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HenryHeronign0ramus: Ok, thanks again, one & all, you too ubottu.23:38
ign0ramusnp :)23:39
anom01yok my alsa problem is really starting to get to me, too bad noone has the balls to help me23:39
Daisuke_Idoanom01y: your attitude sucks.23:39
ign0ramusanom01y: it's probably because you act like a douche23:39
anom01yyeah well its been like 5 months of asking nicely23:40
master_What the preferred virtual machine host on kubuntu?23:40
anom01ythis channel has too many rules for asking questions23:40
ign0ramusmaster_: i don't know if there's a preferred one, but Virtualbox works very nicely23:40
Daisuke_Idoyou ask the question and provide necessary detail23:40
anom01yI don't mean to be rude or anything, Im just frustrated23:40
Daisuke_Idoi fail to see what the problem is23:40
ign0ramusanom01y: there's not a whole lot of "rules" to ask a question23:41
ign0ramusanom01y: i guess "don't be a douche about it" may be the only one23:41
anom01ysomething keeps crashing my alsa, not sure what it is, but I cannot restart it from a shell, I am forced to restart the computer.23:41
anom01ymy sound card is an onboard sound card (intel chipset),23:42
ign0ramusanom01y: even * sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart * doesn't work?23:42
master_ign0ramus: On my previous system, installed and used virtualbox until a security patch came in and made my kernel incompatible with it... that sucked.. I had to get virtualbox from debian, to fix the problem.23:42
anom01yign0ramus: no that does not work, neither does alsaconf23:42
davidedmundsonwhat do you mean "crashes" are you sure alsad dies?23:43
Daisuke_Idohasn't alsaconf not been included for some time?23:43
ign0ramusmaster_: i had that problem too... just get the latest Ubuntu package from Sun, and re-install, and everything worked fine for me23:43
master_ign0ramus: But now, I'm on the 64-bit kubuntu w/ kde 4 on my new 3 core AMD phenom w/ 4GB of RAM that I just put together..23:43
ign0ramusmaster_: kept Vbox users intact and everything23:43
anom01ywell I just reset the computer, so it is working now, but I will see if I can recreate the problem23:43
master_ign0ramus: yep.. that's what i did.. maybe I'll just go get it from sun right now.23:44
davidedmundsonyou using KDE right?23:44
davidedmundson3?23:44
ign0ramusmaster_: i'm not sure about 64bit... check the documentation23:44
anom01yyes I am using kde 323:45
davidedmundsonhttp://userbase.kde.org/ARts23:45
davidedmundsonarts is rubbish, and can "take over" the sound card23:45
davidedmundsonwe can make arts give it up when it's not using it with this23:45
anom01yhmm, yeah sorry this problem is so complicated I don't know what questions to ask23:45
davidedmundsonsound just "not working" isn't easy to diagnose, as sound goes through several systems and mixers and such23:46
ign0ramusWhere would the crash log for Alsa be found? Anyone?23:46
ign0ramusanom01y: are you on a laptop or desktop?23:47
anom01ydesktop23:47
ign0ramusanom01y: store-bought model? if so, what kind?23:47
anom01yI am trying to get it to crash again, but its not.23:47
davidedmundsonintel cards do have a power save system - is that what you were getting at?23:47
anom01yhmm, no I built it myself, how can I get the name of the sound cards ?23:47
anom01y(card) ?23:48
davidedmundsonlspci -vv23:48
anom01ydo you think an onboard intel sound card would have a power save setting ?23:48
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anom01yhttp://pastebin.ca/119596523:50
davidedmundsonbear with me, it's a long list..23:51
ign0ramusanom01y: Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10)23:51
davidedmundsonoh at the bottom!23:51
davidedmundsonthat's not very intel sounding to me..23:52
ign0ramusnot at all23:52
ign0ramusanom01y: does * lsmod | grep via * produce any more results?23:52
davidedmundsonquite often devices get rebranded and labels get stuck on, that has little corellation with that the device actually is23:52
anom01yhttp://pastebin.ca/119597023:53
anom01yalso: I while back I was told it might be because my tv/tuner card is interfering, so I removed that yesterday, but it did not solve my problem.23:54
master_ign0ramus: I downloaded it for ubuntu 8.04 AMD64... How can I install it though? I forgot..23:54
ign0ramusmaster_: a .deb file?23:55
davidedmundsonyeah, people use the word "might" because we have no specific idea, but a bunch of suggestions. and if one makes a difference then you can solve it23:55
master_ign0ramus: yes23:55
ign0ramusmaster_: *sudo dpkg -i <nameofpackage> *23:55
davidedmundsonlike how ign0ramus is going with the module is crashing theory, and I'm sticking with arts is hogging the soundcard.23:55
davidedmundson(btw, did you follow the instructions in my link)23:55
davidedmundsonsound is odd in linux it goes23:56
ign0ramusdavidedmundson: with the evidence given, it could be 100 different things23:56
anom01ywhen I try to fix the problem, alsaconf gives me "unable to detect any PNP or PCI cards", and Amarok says "unable to load any sound drivers"23:56
davidedmundsonplayer -> mixer-> alsa-> driver -> device...23:56
davidedmundsonany of those could fix that.23:56
anom01yso its like the soundcard is being removed from the computer when the computer is on.23:56
ign0ramusanom01y: what settings do you have applied in KControl?23:57
anom01yKcontrol it is set to Alsa23:57
fannagogannaa hack -- manually change the permissions on the device23:57
fannagogannachange to 777 or something like that23:57
ign0ramusanom01y: and if you set it to "autodetect", does it make a difference?23:57
master_ign0ramus: ok.. it says it installed, but I entered "virtualbox" on the konsole and it claims virtualbox is not installed23:57
davidedmundsonif that was the issue surely alsaconf (which asks to be run as root) would still find it23:58
davidedmundson*shrug*23:58
fannagogannasound on linux: still voodoo23:58
ign0ramusmaster_: if it installed properly, there should be a link to the program in Kmenu > System23:58
fannagogannaas in, if it does not work out of the box, good luck debugging23:58
anom01yis there an alsa log file ?23:59
master_ign0ramus: no such item on kmenu, but I found it using alt-f2 (KDE 4 is pretty cool)23:59
ign0ramusmaster_: Try "VirtualBox" -- case sensitive23:59
davidedmundsonrun dmesg23:59
davidedmundsonif anything..23:59
master_ign0ramus: that was it23:59
ign0ramus:-)23:59

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