/ index page, or there should be a big version of the search box or something [14:09] iulian: I also thinked that the page was empty like DktrKranz until I saw that someone mentioned the search box on the ML [14:09] *thought :P [14:10] nhandler: somewhere someone (yes, my memory is great :)) said that he was working on a patch for man [14:10] nhandler: That website is there just to not use 'man' in a command line, isn't it? [14:10] nhandler: which would fetch the manpages if it isn't available [14:10] * DktrKranz was lazy enought to avoid noticing search box [14:11] RainCT: requestsync is totally b0rken for me. but /me can't send a crash report since firefox is also b0rken xD [14:11] lol [14:11] sebner: what's the problem? [14:11] RainCT: I would love to see that patch in the repositories. It would save me a lot of time. [14:12] RainCT, it's a feature, it's a feature, IT'S A FEATURE! :) [14:12] RainCT: http://paste.ubuntu.com/43924/ [14:12] I broken it intentionally to avoid sebner using it [14:12] *broke [14:12] DktrKranz: /me is using it the first time :P [14:12] RainCT: Ahh, you haven't noticed the search box? Yeah, I think it should be moved somewhere else. [14:12] RainCT: perhaps somewhere = planet.u.c, someone = kirkland ? [14:12] sebner: Have you tried using the --lp option? [14:12] sebner: you didn't close Firefox properly or something [14:13] nhandler: in the first try, yes [14:13] ah [14:13] working again [14:13] ^^ xD xD xD [14:13] gah! [14:13] sebner: although showing a warning and trying to find a cookie somewhere else would be good. feel free to submit a patch ;) [14:13] * DktrKranz hides from sebner [14:13] DktrKranz: I still have >5 sync requests without filing more now ;) [14:14] * geser has exported his LP cookie to a text file which requestsync uses [14:14] RainCT: /me != python [14:14] sebner: then learn python while you are young :P [14:14] Or C [14:14] sebner, brainfuck is a better choice [14:14] RainCT: no ^^ , btw. how to use this thing O_o I read the manpage but it's still a secret to me [14:14] * RainCT runs away from iulian [14:14] iulian: C , gah [14:15] DktrKranz: what about whitespaces? [14:15] sebner: requestsync intrepid [14:15] sebner, butterflies [14:15] sebner, you are new to programming languages, it's better to start with something easy. assembler is a good starting point [14:16] RainCT: you are my hero :D (writing intrepid shouldn't be necessary. fix it!) :P :P :P [14:16] DktrKranz: rofl. hmm not that new. /me likes C# xD [14:16] DktrKranz: ah, a got an idea a while ago.. We should get a rule so that when sebner gets a MOTU he has to sponsor as many stuff as he got sponsored [14:16] DktrKranz: Yeah right. I would suggest perl ;) [14:16] s/a/I [14:16] RainCT, sebner: I prefer to write something in C instead of python, but yeah, python is great too. [14:16] sebner, c#??? go away, go away, GO AWAY! [14:17] RainCT: I think all MOTUs should be doing that anyway. [14:17] DktrKranz: :P [14:17] * geser throws mono at sebner [14:17] RainCT, sebner is under *my* pressure. When he become MOTU, I'll push so many debdiffs to him he will collapse [14:17] Haha [14:17] :) [14:17] * RainCT hugs DktrKranz [14:17] geser: mono rocks :) [14:17] DktrKranz: what about reviewing it yourself instead :P [14:18] sebner, I'll drop my MOTU icon by then [14:18] just for the sake to bother you [14:18] DktrKranz: lol. [14:18] * RainCT rofl [14:18] * sebner hides and runs away. No sebner no MOTU [14:18] RainCT: help me to haXX0r my .lpcookie.txt [14:18] XD [14:19] According to the top uploaders page that emgent made, I will have to sponsor 177 patches (as of now) in order to make up for the ones that other people sponsored for me [14:19] sebner: You like C# and hate C? [14:19] sebner: you should leave stupid sync requests and create some good packages instead, and then finally apply to MOTU. [14:19] iulian: there are worlds between them O_o [14:19] Or I misunderstood? [14:20] RainCT: stupid? I'm fixing RC bugs :P [14:20] Well yea... [14:20] does anybody know how many times (and what are they) PPA publishes binary packages? [14:20] PPAs are updated every 5 minutes, afaik? [14:20] sebner: yes but once you're a MOTU you can fix more RC bugs as you save time because you don't need to subscribe u-u-s ;) [14:21] iulian: C# is more like Java, afaik [14:21] RainCT: doesn't matter. Have I never told you? I pushed my application back after intrepid release [14:21] RainCT: C# and java are very similar [14:21] (I don't know much about it, though. Knowing who created it scares me away *g*) [14:21] jorgenpt, upload queue is scanned every 5 minutes, I was referring to publishing binary packages into the repository [14:21] RainCT: Indeed [14:21] Oh, thought that was the same timer. [14:21] DktrKranz: have you noticed that nhandler uploaded >50 packages more than I did? Punish him! :P [14:22] nhandler, keep rocking. sebner: go on retirement [14:22] sebner: where are the stats? [14:23] RainCT: /+uploaded-packages? [14:23] RainCT: http://thc.emanuele-gentili.com/utu/ [14:23] well exactly 50 ^^ [14:23] thanks [14:23] DktrKranz: I should :) [14:23] * DktrKranz has 285 ?!?!?!? [14:24] DktrKranz: seems so ^^ [14:24] mh... I didn't think so many [14:24] Ahh, didn't know that emgent hosts a service like this. [14:24] but I suppose it's right :) [14:24] DktrKranz: xD [14:25] * DktrKranz wrote underlying code... python rocks! [14:25] blargh my package count for intrepid is pathetic :P [14:25] Yikes! I'm 69 [14:25] RainCT: hihi :P [14:25] * RainCT considers breaking some stuff and fixing it afterwards to get some more uploads :P [14:26] lol [14:26] lol [14:26] lol [14:26] * RainCT discards that idea before Scott kills him ;P [14:26] RainCT: meanwhile you could tell me how to haXX0r my .lpcookie.txt to make it working [14:26] RainCT, could I suggest you "dch -i Rebuild just to enter Top-10 uploader list" ? [14:26] and I'm still listed several times.. emgent`nl will you fix that somewhen? :P [14:27] DktrKranz: Good idea. I could write a script to do that with all 20.000 universe packages :) [14:27] sebner: wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~kees/scripts/cookies-sql2txt, run it and store the output in ~/.lpcookie.txt [14:28] RainCT, do you want it? I already have it... now seahorse-plugins is in place, it's all automatic :) [14:28] * DktrKranz hugs twice seb128 for that! [14:28] geser: I think requestsync already uses that script [14:29] geser: you are my hero now :D [14:29] DktrKranz: woo. what is that for? [14:29] (seahorse-plugins) [14:29] RainCT, it keeps stored your gpg password, no need to retype it each time [14:30] RainCT: yes, but sebner wanted to store the cookie in a text file [14:30] and when you do NBS cleaning, it's AWESOME! [14:30] btw, I installed and purged epiphany-browser a while ago and since then whenever I try to open a link from terminator it opens in gnome-terminal with elinks :/. How can I fix that? [14:30] * sebner doesn't want but requestsyncs wants [14:33] RainCT: select an other default browser doesn't work for you? [14:34] geser: Where? [14:34] Gnome or KDE? [14:35] geser: Gnome. I already have Fx3 selected on System -> Prefs. -> Prefered Applications [14:37] use chrome with wine :P [14:37] RainCT: What does `xdg-open http://some.url' do? [14:38] DktrKranz: It's running but not usable xD [14:38] Laney: elinks [14:38] sebner, so I guess you already tried... bad boy [14:38] RainCT: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/255621 [14:38] DktrKranz: sure I tried :P [14:38] Ubuntu bug 255621 in xdg-utils "xdg-open's Gnome detection is broken" [Medium,Confirmed] [14:39] geser: sebner@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ python cookies-sql2txt [14:39] Usage: %s SQLITE3DB DOMAIN [14:39] !? [14:39] Laney: thanks [14:40] Laney: is the problem also on Hardy? [14:40] No idea! [14:40] I don't think so though [14:40] sebner: python cookies-sql2text ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/cookies.sqlite launchpad | tee ~/.lpcookie.txt [14:40] geser: O_o [14:40] Do echo $GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID and see if it returns anything [14:41] Laney: OK, it doesn't; I'll define that in my ~/.bashrc then. Thanks :) [14:43] geser: output is "# HTTP Cookie File" xD [14:45] so it worked [14:47] geser: not really xD but nvm. I'm doing it oldstyle [14:48] sebner: the "database is locked" exception is catched now and only prints a warning [14:48] What is the status of the following page? It seems to be somewhat out of date. When looking through the MOTU minutes, it seems persia promised to create a writeup on the New Upstream Review process (using interdiff) but I can't locate that anywhere? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings/2007-11-05/NewUpstreamReview [14:49] mok0: I don't know about that page, but I thought we don't use interdiff anymore? [14:49] RainCT: yeah, me too [14:49] that's what I also remember, current is attach the new .diff.gz [14:49] RainCT: bah, you did gbrainy 1.0 :P [14:50] geser: but it's not documented anywhere? [14:50] sebner: of course :P [14:50] Our wiki is getting sanded with loads of out-of-date info [14:51] RainCT: you stole me a FFe sync :P [14:52] NCommander: Hi, interested in an interesting FTBFS? It involves libtool though. [15:00] geser: NCommander likes fixing libtool stuff. [15:10] zul: ping [15:11] devfil: pong [15:11] zul: can you please take a look at bug 264554 ? [15:11] Launchpad bug 264554 in xen-3.3 "libxen3 and libxen3-dev both include /usr/lib/libblktap.so" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264554 [15:12] apachelogger: Hi, are you interested in a debdiff for the kdelibs ftbfs? [15:12] devfil: ok [15:12] Laney: very much so [15:12] apachelogger: Excellent, just testbuilding then I will give it to you [15:13] cool :) [15:15] * Laney updates GPG key with Ubuntu address \o/ [15:27] sebner: uhm? gbrainy 1.00 isn't in Debian [15:28] sebner: and it didn't need a FFe [15:31] mok0: nice mail (re rsplib) :) [15:31] RainCT: All that stuff ought to be in a guide for REVU uploaders [15:32] mok0: indeed. maybe somewhere in (or linked from) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [15:33] RainCT: Right! I could start a document based on that email [15:50] hi there! i have a question about fixing a bug. If the package has not yet an automated-patch-system could i then use quilt to make my patches? or should i use inline-patching? [15:53] Ampelbein: if there isn't any commented out patch system or such it is usually recommended to see which one the Maintainer uses on some others of his packages, or use the easiest one (eg., if the package uses CDBS then the obvious choice would be simple-patchsys.mk) [15:54] ah, ok. thank you. [15:55] liw: Are you around? [16:03] zul: fail2ban sru? [16:17] is revu updated every 10 minutes? or is there an issue with revu [16:33] gnomefreak: do you have a problem? [16:41] RainCT: i repushed a package and its not updating it [16:41] RainCT: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=firegpg isnt updating its been 30 minutes or so since push [16:43] are people here? i created a package to solve https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/253196 in my PPA (https://edge.launchpad.net/~andresjriofrio/+archive), and I was wondering if a MOTU member could check it (it works flawlessly with me) and release the upgrade... [16:43] Ubuntu bug 253196 in lyx "Bugfix upstream release of Lyx (1.5.6)" [Low,Triaged] [16:43] i have both intrepid and a straightforward backport (no changes except in changelog) to hardy [16:46] andresj: You should follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess [16:47] Laney: mm... ok I'll go that, thanks :) [16:48] andresj: Did you speak to the Debian maintainer of lyx? [16:49] Laney: no, I didn't. I created the package mainly so that I could have the new version. :P but then I saw that bug and thought my packages would help. [16:50] andresj: Well if it's good he might want to upload it to Debian, no sense duplicating work [16:50] But there is a freeze on over there so he might not [16:51] Laney: mm... I see, I see. Do bugfix releases superseed freezes like in Ubuntu? [16:52] andresj: Only for "important" bugs [16:52] And I see that 1.6 is already in experimental so it's probably not very likely [16:54] hahaha, ok. I'll try sending this using the Sponsorship Process, then. :) And nice to hear that, now I can use that package and port it to Ubuntu. :P Although I'm not sure which would be easier... [16:54] are automatic config.{guess,sub} changes acceptable in a sru? [17:04] gnomefreak: the firegpg upload was rejected [17:05] hey is there a way to see the changes in the .diff.gz between two packages (same program, diff versions)? [17:06] gnomefreak: uhm.. seems like it worked now; do you see it? [17:06] andresj: debdiff .dsc .dsc [17:08] RainCT: thanks :) oh and btw there's somebody in RainCT_ [17:09] oh and is there a command to download all files related (.orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz) given the .dsc? === DrKranz is now known as DktrKranz [17:11] Adri2000, it could be better if they can be omitted (e.g. launching debuild -S in a $distro chroot) [17:11] andresj: dget is what you want. [17:13] DktrKranz: ok [17:17] ScottK: oh ok thanks :) [17:19] ScottK: hey debdiff also compares the upstream version files; is there a way to stop it from doing that? [17:19] No. [17:20] umm... [17:20] Just use diff directly and diff the two debian dirs. [17:20] ScottK: what is the command to prepare a dir? [17:20] that does: tar -xf .orig; apply diff; etc [17:21] dpkg-source -x xxx.dsc [17:22] haha thanks! wow its like u had all this in your head already === emma is now known as |riVen| === |riVen| is now known as emma [17:29] RainCT: ill check [17:29] RainCT: ah it did thanks [17:30] should i add ubuntu-universe-sponsors to the bug ? [17:31] ah already are [17:33] can someone please review and sponsor http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=firegpg u-u-s is already subscribed to bug all lintian warnings/errors have been fixed [17:40] gnomefreak: we have FeatureFreeze... [17:40] already [17:40] gnomefreak: since aug. 28 [17:41] oh [17:42] Hopefully REVU days will start again when the devel cycle begins [17:42] devel cycle for intrepid+1 [17:42] gnomefreak: yes [17:43] "jj" :-) [17:45] cody-somerville: ping [18:07] nxvl, pong [18:07] cody-somerville: i forgot what i was looking for you :S [18:09] s/what/why [18:13] hey anybody know how to add universe/multiverse repositories to my pbuilder? [18:13] i tried `pbuilder --login` and adding them, but it won't work. [18:13] it doesn't change anything, i mean [18:14] andresj: If you want to login and have the results saved, you also need --save-after-login [18:14] hahaha oh ok! :) [18:14] thanks [18:15] andresj: see also the wiki how to add universe to your pbuilder (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Universe%20support) [18:16] haha thanks that's so much easier :) [18:17] ScottK, re bug 267187, is it legal for motu-release members to self-ACK requests? [18:17] Launchpad bug 267187 in yazpp "[FFe] libyaz3 transition" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267187 [18:19] DktrKranz: Absolutely. [18:19] It's one of the prime perks of doing all this work. [18:19] ok, I'll ack it myself and then upload. thanks. [18:22] hi @all, i have an Question about Bugfixing [18:25] i joined dholbachs Lessons at UDW this week and want to start with my new knownledges, i take an patch from fedora (found on harvest: http://daniel.holba.ch/harvest/handler.py?pkg=gnome-settings-daemon¬_apply=11547) and apply this patch, edit the changelog, debuild, pbuilder and created an debdiff. What have to follow next? [18:31] no one there who can help? [18:31] riot_le: now you attach your debdiff to the bug report and subscribe the right sponsor team. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess [18:34] there is no bug in Launchpad to that, i have taken this patch from direct from fedora-cvs [18:35] riot_le: in that case you open a bug yourself and describe the problem that will be fixed with your patch. [18:37] ok thank you albert23 [18:38] riot_le: no problem [18:41] I've thrown a few paragraphs into a new wiki document. Please help expand! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVUWhatNext [18:43] albert23: i open a new bug report: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/267210 do you think that looks good? [18:43] Ubuntu bug 267210 in gnome-settings-daemon "no sound sample cache plugin that drops cached samples from pulseaudio " [Undecided,New] [18:46] riot_le: From reading the bug, it's not clear for me yet what the problem is that will be fixed. [18:48] i think there was no real problem, the patch just added a plugin [18:50] riot_le: so it is a new feature? [18:51] in my opinion yes [18:51] i try it [18:51] riot_le: in that case it may be a problem. We have FeatureFreeze now, and only fix bugs for Intrepid [18:52] ah ok, ill try to find another bug to improve my bugfixing-knowledge [18:55] riot_le: that may be better. Good luck! [18:55] thanks for your help [19:11] Laney: what's the testbuild status? === superm1|away is now known as superm1 === superm1 is now known as superm1|away === tuxmaniac is now known as Shilpa_ === Shilpa_ is now known as tuxmaniac [23:17] ScottK, :-P [23:17] ? [23:17] Oh, the libtool thing. [23:22] ScottK, yeah :-P [23:25] * NCommander runs through his email