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ScottK\o/ - Just added clamav and spamassassin to the server-ship seed, so they are officially supported for Intrepid now ...04:11
Kamping_Kaiser\o/04:11
ScottKSo for Intrepid you should be able to build a pretty solid mail server completely out of Main.04:12
frithhi, i just backported ldap 2.4.11 from intrepid to hardy,  i saw the config had been moved out of slapd.conf and into a cn=config directory07:00
frithit seems to have left a number of ldif files around, do i need to import these files?07:03
NCommanderfrith, did it need any work to be backported?07:19
NCommanderfrith, I don't mind making it an offical backport if you want07:19
frithso so07:19
NCommanderIf you have the patchs, we can see on getting it offically backported to Hardy07:20
frithi just back to backport libtool to compile it07:20
NCommanderewwwww07:21
* NCommander twichs07:21
NCommanderWe can't backport libtool sadlyt07:21
frithyou don't need it to run it07:21
NCommanderIt's a complicated situation07:23
NCommanderGenerally speaking build system tools are unbackportable since its too great of a change07:23
frithindeed07:24
NCommanderSo the way we "backport" the fix is with a hammer07:24
NCommanderA very big hammer07:24
NCommanderAnd at some point, I got dubbed "libtool guru", and get pointed to when we have a libtool explosion in the archive07:24
hadsIntrepid isn't that far away :)07:24
frithi think linux should go more the freebsd route07:25
frithi like having a stable base and then port apps to work07:25
friththen again you can never win07:26
NCommanderfrith, I'm looking forward to Debian kfreebsd-amd6407:27
NCommanderfrith, that being said, libtool issues affect FreeBSD even worse than Linux since most libtool devs are linux based07:27
NCommander(libtool is a godawful hack that should have never been made to exist)07:27
frithi guess a lot of the problems come from creating a stable system and keeping people happy by having the latest version07:30
frithldap is just a pain right now as i want to get n-way replication working07:33
frithand i have pressure to get subversion 1.5.1 deployed07:34
NCommanderfrith, well, svn 1.5.1 was backported07:35
frithi did it myself some time ago07:35
frithjust need to get sometime to test it07:36
frithi hate deploying fairly untested revisions07:36
NCommanderfrith, well, the backport was done by ScottK07:40
frithits more a case of something weird happening to my code base07:41
frithi get paranoid07:42
pcuseranyone here?07:57
NCommanderpcuser, for some defintions of here07:58
pcuseri need some help but i'm not sure what's the best channel for it07:58
pcuseri'm looking for some direction?07:59
NCommanderpcuser, what do you need08:00
pcuseri have a presentation to give on Monday about why you should use wep at college. I wanted to demonstrate cracking WEP. I've done this before on Fedora Core 7 but for some reason i can;t get it to work on Ubuntu 8.0408:02
pcuserwhat channel should i go to for help?08:03
NCommander#ubuntu08:03
NCommanderpcuser, I hope you mean "use wpa" vs use wep08:04
pcuserwpa2 with radius authentication08:04
pcuseri have the project done but i can't seem to get my usb card working in ubuntu08:05
pcuserit's weird, i applied the patch and everything from aircrack-ng but i can't do packet injection for some reason08:05
pcuseri had this working before but on fedora08:05
twbhttp://www.ubuntu.com/news/zimbra-desktop08:08
twbWhat is the ETA for ZCS (Zimbra) turning up in the hardy/partners repo?08:09
frithhmm i can't drive my hosts file from my ldap server09:02
twbfrith: you mean you want "getent hosts" to get information from LDAP?09:03
frithif i set my nsswitch to use ldap for hosts even getend passwd hangs09:03
twbfrith: are you using an IP to refer to your LDAP server?09:05
frithnope,09:05
twbIf you're referring to your LDAP server by hostname, then obviously it can't resolve that hostname because it needs to use the- OK, nevermind09:05
frithdoh :)09:06
frithi was stupid and put ldap first09:06
frithdon't suppose you know much about the 2.4.11 having its config in slapd.d and a number of .ldif files?09:16
twbSorry, no.09:17
friththanks09:19
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frithhappiness is a server called ldap10:06
frithright what else can i put onto ldap10:07
twbEverything that's in NIS atm10:08
twb>grin & duck<10:08
frithnever used nis10:09
frithit looked awful, so i've avoided it10:10
frithi think i should setup n-way replication soon10:11
friththis new version with its weird config structure is a bit baffling10:12
_rubendoes ldap do/support some sort of caching by default? i want to be able local copy of the ldap tree when the main server isnt avail for whatever reason10:12
_rubens/able/able to query/10:12
frith_ruben, you would use ccreds10:13
frithor setup a replica10:13
_rubenhmm .. ok10:14
friththere is a howto10:14
frithbut i have problems with it10:14
_rubenintegrating ldap in our network is somewhere downthere on my huge todolist10:14
frithi find that once i have it working,  it saves me loads of time10:15
frithi think i should setup falcon next10:16
frithcool sudo-ldap10:17
frithwait why do i want that when i have ported all my groups to ldap10:19
frithi can just add myself into the ldap admin group10:19
frithduh i am thick10:19
_rubenhehe10:20
frithunless i could set sudo for each machine10:20
friththat would be cool10:20
c_schmitzcan someone help me please?10:23
c_schmitzI have a remote server with a kernel panic10:24
frithwho knows, ask10:24
c_schmitzand i have no clue what caused this and how to fix it10:24
frithyou have remote management card in it?10:24
c_schmitzyeah10:24
frithreboot, look at the log files10:24
c_schmitzlet me post a screen shot10:24
frithi would get it to do a memtest10:25
frithdoes it kernel panic often? custom kernel?10:25
c_schmitzhttp://imagebin.org/2585610:25
c_schmitzits on boot10:25
c_schmitzcannot boot at all10:25
c_schmitzi doe not get to the login prompt10:26
frithcan you run the memtest?10:26
c_schmitzhow ?10:26
frithwell you have memtest in grub by default10:26
c_schmitzits lilo10:26
frithoh well10:27
frithpxe boot?10:27
c_schmitzsorry.. what is 'pxe boot' ?10:27
frithnetwork booting10:27
c_schmitzi can run that but i would not know where to boot from10:27
c_schmitznever did that10:27
frithyou have another server and dhcp server ont he network?10:27
c_schmitzin fact I do10:28
c_schmitzat least another server10:28
frithhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot10:28
c_schmitzi see there is a memory test installed at the network boot menu10:31
c_schmitzjsut running it10:31
c_schmitzI guess i updated to the latest kernel which cause this10:31
c_schmitzIs there a way i can boot the old kernel from lilo?10:32
frithc_schmitz, only if you left an entry in for it10:36
twbmemtest is available from the d-i CDs (alternate, server), IIRC10:44
frithtwb, he is remote, so he really needs to netboot since he has lilo'd his system for some odd reason10:45
twbfrith: I was assuming he had a scratch monkey onsite11:07
frithi don't trust monkey's they constant turn off the wrong machine11:09
fritheven if you set a message on the lcd11:09
c_schmitzi have a friend now wokring on it11:10
c_schmitzusing a rescue system11:10
c_schmitzthanks for your help11:10
c_schmitzI am noticing how clueless I am11:10
c_schmitz:-/11:10
frithwe all have to learn11:14
frithloads of good people here11:15
twbfrith: yeah, monkeys are unfortunate.  I expected it to be less hassle than configuring netbooting if that wasn't already set up -- you need root on the DHCP server, a host on which to serve TFTP, etc.11:16
twbBut hey, whatever.11:16
frithtwb, true,  but very handy to have for the future11:16
c_schmitzits a hetzner server11:16
c_schmitzso they have a rescue system set up11:16
twbfrith: btw, IME if you put the /boot partition on a md RAID1'd, LVMd partition, then d-i will install Lilo instead of grub (because grub doesn't support that configuration).11:17
c_schmitzits not so much hassle to get into it11:17
c_schmitzbut to know what to do next ;)11:17
twbc_schmitz: hetzner?11:17
frithtwb, i just run grub twice11:17
c_schmitzyeah.. its one of the more known root server providers in Germany11:17
twbc_schmitz: oh, a hosting company.11:18
c_schmitzyes11:18
frithi wish i could afford to get some fibre into my garage11:18
frithgarageisp.net here i come11:19
twbhcoop.net?11:19
twbMy personal preference would be a VM on something approaching big iron.11:20
twbThat way you have monkeys in the NOC to look after the physical hardware, and everything Just Works because VM hardware is simple and relatively uniform.11:20
twbAnd if the iron goes down, there are thousands of irate customers instead of just one -- so the monkeys actually have an incentive to fix it.11:21
fritheggs? basket?11:23
twbfrith: hmm?11:30
frithi get paranoid about using vm for anything other than testing11:31
twbWFM, shrug.11:31
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shakaponkhey guyz, i'm new to linux and ubuntu... how can i install vmware-tools in a ubuntu server distribution as vm?15:36
shakaponki've tried this tut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools15:37
shakaponkbut here: sudo vmware-toolbox it stops :-)15:37
shakaponknobody?15:39
ScottK!weekend | shakaponk15:49
ubottushakaponk: It's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.15:49
shakaponkjust questions ;-)15:50
shakaponkthx for the answer15:50
ScottKIf I could answer your actual question, I would have.15:51
shakaponkScottK: no problem, i don't want to put you under pressure ;-)15:52
uvirtbot`New bug: #254581 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Ubuntu Server Print-server doesn't pull in all the printer modules and ppds" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25458117:49
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byte_slavehello everyone!18:40
sommerhi18:41
byte_slavei'm stucked here, suddenly withou doing nothing, ubuntu 8.04 changed to "ubuntu intrepid (development branch)"18:42
byte_slaveand it doesn't accept the logins i used before18:42
byte_slavehow can i undo this?18:43
sommeruhhh... reinstall?18:44
byte_slavethat was what i didn't want to do :(18:44
sommerif you just need to login, boot to rescue mode and create a use, putting the user in the adm group18:45
sommerthat should let you login and at least copy any data to another machine18:45
sommerfor me intrepid has been quite stable...18:45
byte_slavethats what i'm gonna do.18:46
byte_slavethanks sommer.18:46
sommernp18:46
byte_slaveone more thing! is pacific just install all from scratch and then attach the 3 hdds i've now full of backups? will i access it then without any problem?18:48
byte_slaveprobably i've to make some "chown -R"18:49
sommerif you've lost your old user's then, ya there will probably need to be some chown work18:49
byte_slave;) thats the minor problem18:50
sommerso the machine is just a backup server?18:51
byte_slaveyes18:52
byte_slaveonly that18:52
byte_slavejust need to reconfigure samba and rsync and it should work18:52
sommergotcha, if the data partions are seperate from the rest you can probably re-install without losing the data18:53
byte_slavelet me try reinstall first, then18:54
sommeryou'll just want to be careful during the partiion phase, and not reformat the wrong one :-)18:54
byte_slavesure :)18:54
byte_slavei guess for safety, ill turn off the other disks and the after all i connect them and i add it to fstab18:55
sommerI'd think that'd work fine... but if it's only a backup server why not just run intrepid for the next month until release?18:56
byte_slavedo you thinks the final upgrade to the offical final release then will be peacfull?18:57
byte_slavei never did any upgrade from previous to current versions ( at least voluntarily )18:57
sommerheh, I'd think so, but there's no 100% garuntee18:58
byte_slavewe'll see. i guess i'll follow your instructions. thanks18:58
sommerwelcome18:58
byte_slaveat least i guess i can save my saturday night doing you way :) and i can go out drink some beers ;)18:59
byte_slaveBTW, the idea of create a new login at boot time can be done with 8.04 cd?19:00
sommerheh, I definitely prefer beers over work :)19:00
sommerif you have physical access to the machine grub will show you a recovery option in the list, that'll boot you to single user mode where you can use normal adduser, addgrp, etc19:01
sommermuch faster than booting from cd19:01
byte_slavegreat! i don't even have a cdrom at the machine19:02
uvirtbot`New bug: #259562 in network-manager-openvpn (universe) "NM0.7/Intrepid regression: No longer possible to configure LZO compression (dup-of: 260291)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25956219:16
frithi migrated my groups and users to ldap,   getent now shows duplicate groups and passwds19:46
gladkhi all20:28
gladkcan anybody help with VPN server?20:28
ivoksmaybe20:29
gladkI have installed it on Ubuntu 8.04 server, trying to connect it from Windows XP, connection establishes, but no ping..... nothing20:29
ivoksVPN isn't the name of the program20:29
ivoksthat's a common name for couple of implementations20:30
ivoksso, which vpn server are we talking about?20:30
ivoksopenvpn, pptpd...?20:30
gladkpptpd20:30
gladkand i cant ping connected client from server20:30
ivoksok, that one basicly works with almost no configuration20:31
gladkyea, I just chenged ip-s20:31
ivoksyou added localip and remoteip in pptpd.conf?20:32
gladkyes20:33
ivoksfrom some other ip range?20:33
ivoksor from the same as server?20:34
gladkfrom same server20:36
ivoksso, your server has an IP 192.168.0.120:37
gladk192.168.0.1720:37
ivoksand you've set up 192.168.0.x as a remoteip20:37
gladk192.168.177.X20:37
ivoksok, and localip is...?20:38
gladk192.168.177.23420:38
ivoksso you can't ping 192.168.177.234 from connected client?20:38
gladkyes20:39
gladkno...20:39
gladkI can ping client from client20:39
gladkmyself20:39
gladkI cant ping client-server and server-client20:39
ivoksfirewall on server?20:41
gladkiptables20:41
gladkport 1723 opened20:42
ivoksping doesn't have anything with TCP or UDP ports20:43
ivoksping is ICMP20:43
gladkit is allowed also20:43
ivoksi don't know then... try dumping traffic20:45
ivoksdoes other connections work?20:45
gladkhow can i dump traffic?20:46
ivokstcpdump20:47
ivokssorry, can't help you more... i'm tired20:48
gladkivoks: thank you anyway20:48
ivoks'night20:57
lukehasnonameAs Intrepid comes closer, it might be good to have a "What's new in the Intrepid Ibex" page on Ubuntu.com listing new features of the server edition in a high-level, short-description manner23:35
uvirtbot`New bug: #267279 in drbd8 (universe) "DRBD Primary-Primary Setup on Hardy crashes in certain situations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26727923:40

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