=== PrivateVoid_ is now known as PrivateVoid === PrivateVoid_ is now known as PrivateVoid === PrivateVoid_ is now known as PrivateVoid [04:11] \o/ - Just added clamav and spamassassin to the server-ship seed, so they are officially supported for Intrepid now ... [04:11] \o/ [04:12] So for Intrepid you should be able to build a pretty solid mail server completely out of Main. [07:00] hi, i just backported ldap 2.4.11 from intrepid to hardy, i saw the config had been moved out of slapd.conf and into a cn=config directory [07:03] it seems to have left a number of ldif files around, do i need to import these files? [07:19] frith, did it need any work to be backported? [07:19] frith, I don't mind making it an offical backport if you want [07:19] so so [07:20] If you have the patchs, we can see on getting it offically backported to Hardy [07:20] i just back to backport libtool to compile it [07:21] ewwwww [07:21] * NCommander twichs [07:21] We can't backport libtool sadlyt [07:21] you don't need it to run it [07:23] It's a complicated situation [07:23] Generally speaking build system tools are unbackportable since its too great of a change [07:24] indeed [07:24] So the way we "backport" the fix is with a hammer [07:24] A very big hammer [07:24] And at some point, I got dubbed "libtool guru", and get pointed to when we have a libtool explosion in the archive [07:24] Intrepid isn't that far away :) [07:25] i think linux should go more the freebsd route [07:25] i like having a stable base and then port apps to work [07:26] then again you can never win [07:27] frith, I'm looking forward to Debian kfreebsd-amd64 [07:27] frith, that being said, libtool issues affect FreeBSD even worse than Linux since most libtool devs are linux based [07:27] (libtool is a godawful hack that should have never been made to exist) [07:30] i guess a lot of the problems come from creating a stable system and keeping people happy by having the latest version [07:33] ldap is just a pain right now as i want to get n-way replication working [07:34] and i have pressure to get subversion 1.5.1 deployed [07:35] frith, well, svn 1.5.1 was backported [07:35] i did it myself some time ago [07:36] just need to get sometime to test it [07:36] i hate deploying fairly untested revisions [07:40] frith, well, the backport was done by ScottK [07:41] its more a case of something weird happening to my code base [07:42] i get paranoid [07:57] anyone here? [07:58] pcuser, for some defintions of here [07:58] i need some help but i'm not sure what's the best channel for it [07:59] i'm looking for some direction? [08:00] pcuser, what do you need [08:02] i have a presentation to give on Monday about why you should use wep at college. I wanted to demonstrate cracking WEP. I've done this before on Fedora Core 7 but for some reason i can;t get it to work on Ubuntu 8.04 [08:03] what channel should i go to for help? [08:03] #ubuntu [08:04] pcuser, I hope you mean "use wpa" vs use wep [08:04] wpa2 with radius authentication [08:05] i have the project done but i can't seem to get my usb card working in ubuntu [08:05] it's weird, i applied the patch and everything from aircrack-ng but i can't do packet injection for some reason [08:05] i had this working before but on fedora [08:08] http://www.ubuntu.com/news/zimbra-desktop [08:09] What is the ETA for ZCS (Zimbra) turning up in the hardy/partners repo? [09:02] hmm i can't drive my hosts file from my ldap server [09:03] frith: you mean you want "getent hosts" to get information from LDAP? [09:03] if i set my nsswitch to use ldap for hosts even getend passwd hangs [09:05] frith: are you using an IP to refer to your LDAP server? [09:05] nope, [09:05] If you're referring to your LDAP server by hostname, then obviously it can't resolve that hostname because it needs to use the- OK, nevermind [09:06] doh :) [09:06] i was stupid and put ldap first [09:16] don't suppose you know much about the 2.4.11 having its config in slapd.d and a number of .ldif files? [09:17] Sorry, no. [09:19] thanks === freaky[t] is now known as fReAkY[t] [10:06] happiness is a server called ldap [10:07] right what else can i put onto ldap [10:08] Everything that's in NIS atm [10:08] >grin & duck< [10:09] never used nis [10:10] it looked awful, so i've avoided it [10:11] i think i should setup n-way replication soon [10:12] this new version with its weird config structure is a bit baffling [10:12] <_ruben> does ldap do/support some sort of caching by default? i want to be able local copy of the ldap tree when the main server isnt avail for whatever reason [10:12] <_ruben> s/able/able to query/ [10:13] _ruben, you would use ccreds [10:13] or setup a replica [10:14] <_ruben> hmm .. ok [10:14] there is a howto [10:14] but i have problems with it [10:14] <_ruben> integrating ldap in our network is somewhere downthere on my huge todolist [10:15] i find that once i have it working, it saves me loads of time [10:16] i think i should setup falcon next [10:17] cool sudo-ldap [10:19] wait why do i want that when i have ported all my groups to ldap [10:19] i can just add myself into the ldap admin group [10:19] duh i am thick [10:20] <_ruben> hehe [10:20] unless i could set sudo for each machine [10:20] that would be cool [10:23] can someone help me please? [10:24] I have a remote server with a kernel panic [10:24] who knows, ask [10:24] and i have no clue what caused this and how to fix it [10:24] you have remote management card in it? [10:24] yeah [10:24] reboot, look at the log files [10:24] let me post a screen shot [10:25] i would get it to do a memtest [10:25] does it kernel panic often? custom kernel? [10:25] http://imagebin.org/25856 [10:25] its on boot [10:25] cannot boot at all [10:26] i doe not get to the login prompt [10:26] can you run the memtest? [10:26] how ? [10:26] well you have memtest in grub by default [10:26] its lilo [10:27] oh well [10:27] pxe boot? [10:27] sorry.. what is 'pxe boot' ? [10:27] network booting [10:27] i can run that but i would not know where to boot from [10:27] never did that [10:27] you have another server and dhcp server ont he network? [10:28] in fact I do [10:28] at least another server [10:28] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot [10:31] i see there is a memory test installed at the network boot menu [10:31] jsut running it [10:31] I guess i updated to the latest kernel which cause this [10:32] Is there a way i can boot the old kernel from lilo? [10:36] c_schmitz, only if you left an entry in for it [10:44] memtest is available from the d-i CDs (alternate, server), IIRC [10:45] twb, he is remote, so he really needs to netboot since he has lilo'd his system for some odd reason [11:07] frith: I was assuming he had a scratch monkey onsite [11:09] i don't trust monkey's they constant turn off the wrong machine [11:09] even if you set a message on the lcd [11:10] i have a friend now wokring on it [11:10] using a rescue system [11:10] thanks for your help [11:10] I am noticing how clueless I am [11:10] :-/ [11:14] we all have to learn [11:15] loads of good people here [11:16] frith: yeah, monkeys are unfortunate. I expected it to be less hassle than configuring netbooting if that wasn't already set up -- you need root on the DHCP server, a host on which to serve TFTP, etc. [11:16] But hey, whatever. [11:16] twb, true, but very handy to have for the future [11:16] its a hetzner server [11:16] so they have a rescue system set up [11:17] frith: btw, IME if you put the /boot partition on a md RAID1'd, LVMd partition, then d-i will install Lilo instead of grub (because grub doesn't support that configuration). [11:17] its not so much hassle to get into it [11:17] but to know what to do next ;) [11:17] c_schmitz: hetzner? [11:17] twb, i just run grub twice [11:17] yeah.. its one of the more known root server providers in Germany [11:18] c_schmitz: oh, a hosting company. [11:18] yes [11:18] i wish i could afford to get some fibre into my garage [11:19] garageisp.net here i come [11:19] hcoop.net? [11:20] My personal preference would be a VM on something approaching big iron. [11:20] That way you have monkeys in the NOC to look after the physical hardware, and everything Just Works because VM hardware is simple and relatively uniform. [11:21] And if the iron goes down, there are thousands of irate customers instead of just one -- so the monkeys actually have an incentive to fix it. [11:23] eggs? basket? [11:30] frith: hmm? [11:31] i get paranoid about using vm for anything other than testing [11:31] WFM, shrug. === fReAkY[t] is now known as freaky[t] === freaky[t] is now known as fReAkY[t] === fReAkY[t] is now known as freaky[t] [15:36] hey guyz, i'm new to linux and ubuntu... how can i install vmware-tools in a ubuntu server distribution as vm? [15:37] i've tried this tut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools [15:37] but here: sudo vmware-toolbox it stops :-) [15:39] nobody? [15:49] !weekend | shakaponk [15:49] shakaponk: It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. [15:50] just questions ;-) [15:50] thx for the answer [15:51] If I could answer your actual question, I would have. [15:52] ScottK: no problem, i don't want to put you under pressure ;-) [17:49] New bug: #254581 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Ubuntu Server Print-server doesn't pull in all the printer modules and ppds" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/254581 [17:54] * delcoyote hi === freaky[t] is now known as fReAkY[t] === fReAkY[t] is now known as freaky[t] [18:40] hello everyone! [18:41] hi [18:42] i'm stucked here, suddenly withou doing nothing, ubuntu 8.04 changed to "ubuntu intrepid (development branch)" [18:42] and it doesn't accept the logins i used before [18:43] how can i undo this? [18:44] uhhh... reinstall? [18:44] that was what i didn't want to do :( [18:45] if you just need to login, boot to rescue mode and create a use, putting the user in the adm group [18:45] that should let you login and at least copy any data to another machine [18:45] for me intrepid has been quite stable... [18:46] thats what i'm gonna do. [18:46] thanks sommer. [18:46] np [18:48] one more thing! is pacific just install all from scratch and then attach the 3 hdds i've now full of backups? will i access it then without any problem? [18:49] probably i've to make some "chown -R" [18:49] if you've lost your old user's then, ya there will probably need to be some chown work [18:50] ;) thats the minor problem [18:51] so the machine is just a backup server? [18:52] yes [18:52] only that [18:52] just need to reconfigure samba and rsync and it should work [18:53] gotcha, if the data partions are seperate from the rest you can probably re-install without losing the data [18:54] let me try reinstall first, then [18:54] you'll just want to be careful during the partiion phase, and not reformat the wrong one :-) [18:54] sure :) [18:55] i guess for safety, ill turn off the other disks and the after all i connect them and i add it to fstab [18:56] I'd think that'd work fine... but if it's only a backup server why not just run intrepid for the next month until release? [18:57] do you thinks the final upgrade to the offical final release then will be peacfull? [18:57] i never did any upgrade from previous to current versions ( at least voluntarily ) [18:58] heh, I'd think so, but there's no 100% garuntee [18:58] we'll see. i guess i'll follow your instructions. thanks [18:58] welcome [18:59] at least i guess i can save my saturday night doing you way :) and i can go out drink some beers ;) [19:00] BTW, the idea of create a new login at boot time can be done with 8.04 cd? [19:00] heh, I definitely prefer beers over work :) [19:01] if you have physical access to the machine grub will show you a recovery option in the list, that'll boot you to single user mode where you can use normal adduser, addgrp, etc [19:01] much faster than booting from cd [19:02] great! i don't even have a cdrom at the machine [19:16] New bug: #259562 in network-manager-openvpn (universe) "NM0.7/Intrepid regression: No longer possible to configure LZO compression (dup-of: 260291)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259562 [19:46] i migrated my groups and users to ldap, getent now shows duplicate groups and passwds [20:28] hi all [20:28] can anybody help with VPN server? [20:29] maybe [20:29] I have installed it on Ubuntu 8.04 server, trying to connect it from Windows XP, connection establishes, but no ping..... nothing [20:29] VPN isn't the name of the program [20:30] that's a common name for couple of implementations [20:30] so, which vpn server are we talking about? [20:30] openvpn, pptpd...? [20:30] pptpd [20:30] and i cant ping connected client from server [20:31] ok, that one basicly works with almost no configuration [20:31] yea, I just chenged ip-s [20:32] you added localip and remoteip in pptpd.conf? [20:33] yes [20:33] from some other ip range? [20:34] or from the same as server? [20:36] from same server [20:37] so, your server has an IP 192.168.0.1 [20:37] 192.168.0.17 [20:37] and you've set up 192.168.0.x as a remoteip [20:37] 192.168.177.X [20:38] ok, and localip is...? [20:38] 192.168.177.234 [20:38] so you can't ping 192.168.177.234 from connected client? [20:39] yes [20:39] no... [20:39] I can ping client from client [20:39] myself [20:39] I cant ping client-server and server-client [20:41] firewall on server? [20:41] iptables [20:42] port 1723 opened [20:43] ping doesn't have anything with TCP or UDP ports [20:43] ping is ICMP [20:43] it is allowed also [20:45] i don't know then... try dumping traffic [20:45] does other connections work? [20:46] how can i dump traffic? [20:47] tcpdump [20:48] sorry, can't help you more... i'm tired [20:48] ivoks: thank you anyway [20:57] 'night [23:35] As Intrepid comes closer, it might be good to have a "What's new in the Intrepid Ibex" page on Ubuntu.com listing new features of the server edition in a high-level, short-description manner [23:40] New bug: #267279 in drbd8 (universe) "DRBD Primary-Primary Setup on Hardy crashes in certain situations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267279