[04:11] <ScottK> \o/ - Just added clamav and spamassassin to the server-ship seed, so they are officially supported for Intrepid now ...
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> \o/
[04:12] <ScottK> So for Intrepid you should be able to build a pretty solid mail server completely out of Main.
[07:00] <frith> hi, i just backported ldap 2.4.11 from intrepid to hardy,  i saw the config had been moved out of slapd.conf and into a cn=config directory
[07:03] <frith> it seems to have left a number of ldif files around, do i need to import these files?
[07:19] <NCommander> frith, did it need any work to be backported?
[07:19] <NCommander> frith, I don't mind making it an offical backport if you want
[07:19] <frith> so so
[07:20] <NCommander> If you have the patchs, we can see on getting it offically backported to Hardy
[07:20] <frith> i just back to backport libtool to compile it
[07:21] <NCommander> ewwwww
[07:21]  * NCommander twichs
[07:21] <NCommander> We can't backport libtool sadlyt
[07:21] <frith> you don't need it to run it
[07:23] <NCommander> It's a complicated situation
[07:23] <NCommander> Generally speaking build system tools are unbackportable since its too great of a change
[07:24] <frith> indeed
[07:24] <NCommander> So the way we "backport" the fix is with a hammer
[07:24] <NCommander> A very big hammer
[07:24] <NCommander> And at some point, I got dubbed "libtool guru", and get pointed to when we have a libtool explosion in the archive
[07:24] <hads> Intrepid isn't that far away :)
[07:25] <frith> i think linux should go more the freebsd route
[07:25] <frith> i like having a stable base and then port apps to work
[07:26] <frith> then again you can never win
[07:27] <NCommander> frith, I'm looking forward to Debian kfreebsd-amd64
[07:27] <NCommander> frith, that being said, libtool issues affect FreeBSD even worse than Linux since most libtool devs are linux based
[07:27] <NCommander> (libtool is a godawful hack that should have never been made to exist)
[07:30] <frith> i guess a lot of the problems come from creating a stable system and keeping people happy by having the latest version
[07:33] <frith> ldap is just a pain right now as i want to get n-way replication working
[07:34] <frith> and i have pressure to get subversion 1.5.1 deployed
[07:35] <NCommander> frith, well, svn 1.5.1 was backported
[07:35] <frith> i did it myself some time ago
[07:36] <frith> just need to get sometime to test it
[07:36] <frith> i hate deploying fairly untested revisions
[07:40] <NCommander> frith, well, the backport was done by ScottK
[07:41] <frith> its more a case of something weird happening to my code base
[07:42] <frith> i get paranoid
[07:57] <pcuser> anyone here?
[07:58] <NCommander> pcuser, for some defintions of here
[07:58] <pcuser> i need some help but i'm not sure what's the best channel for it
[07:59] <pcuser> i'm looking for some direction?
[08:00] <NCommander> pcuser, what do you need
[08:02] <pcuser> i have a presentation to give on Monday about why you should use wep at college. I wanted to demonstrate cracking WEP. I've done this before on Fedora Core 7 but for some reason i can;t get it to work on Ubuntu 8.04
[08:03] <pcuser> what channel should i go to for help?
[08:03] <NCommander> #ubuntu
[08:04] <NCommander> pcuser, I hope you mean "use wpa" vs use wep
[08:04] <pcuser> wpa2 with radius authentication
[08:05] <pcuser> i have the project done but i can't seem to get my usb card working in ubuntu
[08:05] <pcuser> it's weird, i applied the patch and everything from aircrack-ng but i can't do packet injection for some reason
[08:05] <pcuser> i had this working before but on fedora
[08:08] <twb> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/zimbra-desktop
[08:09] <twb> What is the ETA for ZCS (Zimbra) turning up in the hardy/partners repo?
[09:02] <frith> hmm i can't drive my hosts file from my ldap server
[09:03] <twb> frith: you mean you want "getent hosts" to get information from LDAP?
[09:03] <frith> if i set my nsswitch to use ldap for hosts even getend passwd hangs
[09:05] <twb> frith: are you using an IP to refer to your LDAP server?
[09:05] <frith> nope,
[09:05] <twb> If you're referring to your LDAP server by hostname, then obviously it can't resolve that hostname because it needs to use the- OK, nevermind
[09:06] <frith> doh :)
[09:06] <frith> i was stupid and put ldap first
[09:16] <frith> don't suppose you know much about the 2.4.11 having its config in slapd.d and a number of .ldif files?
[09:17] <twb> Sorry, no.
[09:19] <frith> thanks
[10:06] <frith> happiness is a server called ldap
[10:07] <frith> right what else can i put onto ldap
[10:08] <twb> Everything that's in NIS atm
[10:08] <twb> >grin & duck<
[10:09] <frith> never used nis
[10:10] <frith> it looked awful, so i've avoided it
[10:11] <frith> i think i should setup n-way replication soon
[10:12] <frith> this new version with its weird config structure is a bit baffling
[10:12] <_ruben> does ldap do/support some sort of caching by default? i want to be able local copy of the ldap tree when the main server isnt avail for whatever reason
[10:12] <_ruben> s/able/able to query/
[10:13] <frith> _ruben, you would use ccreds
[10:13] <frith> or setup a replica
[10:14] <_ruben> hmm .. ok
[10:14] <frith> there is a howto
[10:14] <frith> but i have problems with it
[10:14] <_ruben> integrating ldap in our network is somewhere downthere on my huge todolist
[10:15] <frith> i find that once i have it working,  it saves me loads of time
[10:16] <frith> i think i should setup falcon next
[10:17] <frith> cool sudo-ldap
[10:19] <frith> wait why do i want that when i have ported all my groups to ldap
[10:19] <frith> i can just add myself into the ldap admin group
[10:19] <frith> duh i am thick
[10:20] <_ruben> hehe
[10:20] <frith> unless i could set sudo for each machine
[10:20] <frith> that would be cool
[10:23] <c_schmitz> can someone help me please?
[10:24] <c_schmitz> I have a remote server with a kernel panic
[10:24] <frith> who knows, ask
[10:24] <c_schmitz> and i have no clue what caused this and how to fix it
[10:24] <frith> you have remote management card in it?
[10:24] <c_schmitz> yeah
[10:24] <frith> reboot, look at the log files
[10:24] <c_schmitz> let me post a screen shot
[10:25] <frith> i would get it to do a memtest
[10:25] <frith> does it kernel panic often? custom kernel?
[10:25] <c_schmitz> http://imagebin.org/25856
[10:25] <c_schmitz> its on boot
[10:25] <c_schmitz> cannot boot at all
[10:26] <c_schmitz> i doe not get to the login prompt
[10:26] <frith> can you run the memtest?
[10:26] <c_schmitz> how ?
[10:26] <frith> well you have memtest in grub by default
[10:26] <c_schmitz> its lilo
[10:27] <frith> oh well
[10:27] <frith> pxe boot?
[10:27] <c_schmitz> sorry.. what is 'pxe boot' ?
[10:27] <frith> network booting
[10:27] <c_schmitz> i can run that but i would not know where to boot from
[10:27] <c_schmitz> never did that
[10:27] <frith> you have another server and dhcp server ont he network?
[10:28] <c_schmitz> in fact I do
[10:28] <c_schmitz> at least another server
[10:28] <frith> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[10:31] <c_schmitz> i see there is a memory test installed at the network boot menu
[10:31] <c_schmitz> jsut running it
[10:31] <c_schmitz> I guess i updated to the latest kernel which cause this
[10:32] <c_schmitz> Is there a way i can boot the old kernel from lilo?
[10:36] <frith> c_schmitz, only if you left an entry in for it
[10:44] <twb> memtest is available from the d-i CDs (alternate, server), IIRC
[10:45] <frith> twb, he is remote, so he really needs to netboot since he has lilo'd his system for some odd reason
[11:07] <twb> frith: I was assuming he had a scratch monkey onsite
[11:09] <frith> i don't trust monkey's they constant turn off the wrong machine
[11:09] <frith> even if you set a message on the lcd
[11:10] <c_schmitz> i have a friend now wokring on it
[11:10] <c_schmitz> using a rescue system
[11:10] <c_schmitz> thanks for your help
[11:10] <c_schmitz> I am noticing how clueless I am
[11:10] <c_schmitz> :-/
[11:14] <frith> we all have to learn
[11:15] <frith> loads of good people here
[11:16] <twb> frith: yeah, monkeys are unfortunate.  I expected it to be less hassle than configuring netbooting if that wasn't already set up -- you need root on the DHCP server, a host on which to serve TFTP, etc.
[11:16] <twb> But hey, whatever.
[11:16] <frith> twb, true,  but very handy to have for the future
[11:16] <c_schmitz> its a hetzner server
[11:16] <c_schmitz> so they have a rescue system set up
[11:17] <twb> frith: btw, IME if you put the /boot partition on a md RAID1'd, LVMd partition, then d-i will install Lilo instead of grub (because grub doesn't support that configuration).
[11:17] <c_schmitz> its not so much hassle to get into it
[11:17] <c_schmitz> but to know what to do next ;)
[11:17] <twb> c_schmitz: hetzner?
[11:17] <frith> twb, i just run grub twice
[11:17] <c_schmitz> yeah.. its one of the more known root server providers in Germany
[11:18] <twb> c_schmitz: oh, a hosting company.
[11:18] <c_schmitz> yes
[11:18] <frith> i wish i could afford to get some fibre into my garage
[11:19] <frith> garageisp.net here i come
[11:19] <twb> hcoop.net?
[11:20] <twb> My personal preference would be a VM on something approaching big iron.
[11:20] <twb> That way you have monkeys in the NOC to look after the physical hardware, and everything Just Works because VM hardware is simple and relatively uniform.
[11:21] <twb> And if the iron goes down, there are thousands of irate customers instead of just one -- so the monkeys actually have an incentive to fix it.
[11:23] <frith> eggs? basket?
[11:30] <twb> frith: hmm?
[11:31] <frith> i get paranoid about using vm for anything other than testing
[11:31] <twb> WFM, shrug.
[15:36] <shakaponk> hey guyz, i'm new to linux and ubuntu... how can i install vmware-tools in a ubuntu server distribution as vm?
[15:37] <shakaponk> i've tried this tut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools
[15:37] <shakaponk> but here: sudo vmware-toolbox it stops :-)
[15:39] <shakaponk> nobody?
[15:49] <ScottK> !weekend | shakaponk
[15:50] <shakaponk> just questions ;-)
[15:50] <shakaponk> thx for the answer
[15:51] <ScottK> If I could answer your actual question, I would have.
[15:52] <shakaponk> ScottK: no problem, i don't want to put you under pressure ;-)
[17:49] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #254581 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Ubuntu Server Print-server doesn't pull in all the printer modules and ppds" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/254581
[17:54]  * delcoyote hi
[18:40] <byte_slave> hello everyone!
[18:41] <sommer> hi
[18:42] <byte_slave> i'm stucked here, suddenly withou doing nothing, ubuntu 8.04 changed to "ubuntu intrepid (development branch)"
[18:42] <byte_slave> and it doesn't accept the logins i used before
[18:43] <byte_slave> how can i undo this?
[18:44] <sommer> uhhh... reinstall?
[18:44] <byte_slave> that was what i didn't want to do :(
[18:45] <sommer> if you just need to login, boot to rescue mode and create a use, putting the user in the adm group
[18:45] <sommer> that should let you login and at least copy any data to another machine
[18:45] <sommer> for me intrepid has been quite stable...
[18:46] <byte_slave> thats what i'm gonna do.
[18:46] <byte_slave> thanks sommer.
[18:46] <sommer> np
[18:48] <byte_slave> one more thing! is pacific just install all from scratch and then attach the 3 hdds i've now full of backups? will i access it then without any problem?
[18:49] <byte_slave> probably i've to make some "chown -R"
[18:49] <sommer> if you've lost your old user's then, ya there will probably need to be some chown work
[18:50] <byte_slave> ;) thats the minor problem
[18:51] <sommer> so the machine is just a backup server?
[18:52] <byte_slave> yes
[18:52] <byte_slave> only that
[18:52] <byte_slave> just need to reconfigure samba and rsync and it should work
[18:53] <sommer> gotcha, if the data partions are seperate from the rest you can probably re-install without losing the data
[18:54] <byte_slave> let me try reinstall first, then
[18:54] <sommer> you'll just want to be careful during the partiion phase, and not reformat the wrong one :-)
[18:54] <byte_slave> sure :)
[18:55] <byte_slave> i guess for safety, ill turn off the other disks and the after all i connect them and i add it to fstab
[18:56] <sommer> I'd think that'd work fine... but if it's only a backup server why not just run intrepid for the next month until release?
[18:57] <byte_slave> do you thinks the final upgrade to the offical final release then will be peacfull?
[18:57] <byte_slave> i never did any upgrade from previous to current versions ( at least voluntarily )
[18:58] <sommer> heh, I'd think so, but there's no 100% garuntee
[18:58] <byte_slave> we'll see. i guess i'll follow your instructions. thanks
[18:58] <sommer> welcome
[18:59] <byte_slave> at least i guess i can save my saturday night doing you way :) and i can go out drink some beers ;)
[19:00] <byte_slave> BTW, the idea of create a new login at boot time can be done with 8.04 cd?
[19:00] <sommer> heh, I definitely prefer beers over work :)
[19:01] <sommer> if you have physical access to the machine grub will show you a recovery option in the list, that'll boot you to single user mode where you can use normal adduser, addgrp, etc
[19:01] <sommer> much faster than booting from cd
[19:02] <byte_slave> great! i don't even have a cdrom at the machine
[19:16] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #259562 in network-manager-openvpn (universe) "NM0.7/Intrepid regression: No longer possible to configure LZO compression (dup-of: 260291)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259562
[19:46] <frith> i migrated my groups and users to ldap,   getent now shows duplicate groups and passwds
[20:28] <gladk> hi all
[20:28] <gladk> can anybody help with VPN server?
[20:29] <ivoks> maybe
[20:29] <gladk> I have installed it on Ubuntu 8.04 server, trying to connect it from Windows XP, connection establishes, but no ping..... nothing
[20:29] <ivoks> VPN isn't the name of the program
[20:30] <ivoks> that's a common name for couple of implementations
[20:30] <ivoks> so, which vpn server are we talking about?
[20:30] <ivoks> openvpn, pptpd...?
[20:30] <gladk> pptpd
[20:30] <gladk> and i cant ping connected client from server
[20:31] <ivoks> ok, that one basicly works with almost no configuration
[20:31] <gladk> yea, I just chenged ip-s
[20:32] <ivoks> you added localip and remoteip in pptpd.conf?
[20:33] <gladk> yes
[20:33] <ivoks> from some other ip range?
[20:34] <ivoks> or from the same as server?
[20:36] <gladk> from same server
[20:37] <ivoks> so, your server has an IP 192.168.0.1
[20:37] <gladk> 192.168.0.17
[20:37] <ivoks> and you've set up 192.168.0.x as a remoteip
[20:37] <gladk> 192.168.177.X
[20:38] <ivoks> ok, and localip is...?
[20:38] <gladk> 192.168.177.234
[20:38] <ivoks> so you can't ping 192.168.177.234 from connected client?
[20:39] <gladk> yes
[20:39] <gladk> no...
[20:39] <gladk> I can ping client from client
[20:39] <gladk> myself
[20:39] <gladk> I cant ping client-server and server-client
[20:41] <ivoks> firewall on server?
[20:41] <gladk> iptables
[20:42] <gladk> port 1723 opened
[20:43] <ivoks> ping doesn't have anything with TCP or UDP ports
[20:43] <ivoks> ping is ICMP
[20:43] <gladk> it is allowed also
[20:45] <ivoks> i don't know then... try dumping traffic
[20:45] <ivoks> does other connections work?
[20:46] <gladk> how can i dump traffic?
[20:47] <ivoks> tcpdump
[20:48] <ivoks> sorry, can't help you more... i'm tired
[20:48] <gladk> ivoks: thank you anyway
[20:57] <ivoks> 'night
[23:35] <lukehasnoname> As Intrepid comes closer, it might be good to have a "What's new in the Intrepid Ibex" page on Ubuntu.com listing new features of the server edition in a high-level, short-description manner
[23:40] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #267279 in drbd8 (universe) "DRBD Primary-Primary Setup on Hardy crashes in certain situations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267279