| Markopotamus | Odd-rationale: Cheers for the help. I'm off now. Later" | 00:02 |
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| Odd-rationale | k see ya | 00:02 |
| dominic_ | hi | 00:25 |
| dominic_ | how are you all doing? | 00:26 |
| superspuck | hello, just installed xubuntu and all was fine until I installed restricted drivers, uptaded my system and rebooted. now all I get is a background and a mouse-pointer when I login. what the hell? yes please help me :o | 02:00 |
| TheSheep | superspuck: press alt+f2, type 'xfce4-panel' | 02:00 |
| superspuck | already tried that, nothing happend | 02:01 |
| TheSheep | superspuck: nothing happened when you pressed alt+f2? | 02:01 |
| TheSheep | superspuck: or when you typed that nad pressed enter? | 02:01 |
| superspuck | no when I executed xfce4-panel | 02:01 |
| TheSheep | superspuck: ok, try xfce4-terminal and then xfce4-panel in it | 02:02 |
| superspuck | that one fails to execute | 02:03 |
| superspuck | no such thing | 02:03 |
| TheSheep | superspuck: with what meesage? | 02:03 |
| TheSheep | message? | 02:03 |
| superspuck | failed to execute child process | 02:03 |
| TheSheep | in terminal? | 02:03 |
| superspuck | ah there it is :P | 02:04 |
| superspuck | only one problem can't see more than 25% of the terminal | 02:05 |
| superspuck | but nothing happens when i write xfce4-panel | 02:05 |
| TheSheep | !nothing | 02:06 |
| ubottu | Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail. | 02:06 |
| superspuck | yes I mean nothing since I can't see the terminal | 02:06 |
| TheSheep | then resize it | 02:06 |
| TheSheep | alt+shift+arrows | 02:07 |
| TheSheep | why can't you see it? | 02:07 |
| superspuck | yeah managed to catch it | 02:08 |
| superspuck | ** Message: xfce4-panel already running | 02:09 |
| superspuck | it's a ghost ^^ | 02:09 |
| TheSheep | maybe your virtual screen is larger than physical, and you have it scrolled so that you don't see the panel? | 02:09 |
| superspuck | oh yeah that makes sense there's a lot of overscan | 02:10 |
| superspuck | xubuntu uses xorg.conf? | 02:10 |
| TheSheep | yeah, you can configure it with 'sudo displayconfig-gtk' | 02:11 |
| superspuck | ah yes now I see everything, thank you thank you ^^ | 02:12 |
| TheSheep | :) | 02:13 |
| === Odd-rationale__ is now known as Odd-rationale | ||
| indo | how do you mount a windows file system? | 04:37 |
| gaurdro | I'm seeing a bit of weird behaviour on startup. if i hit alt-f4 it switches to terminal like normal but the colors are green and blue. | 04:54 |
| gaurdro | also, trying to switch to a terminal once it's running only gives me a black screen no login prompt. | 04:54 |
| favro | gaurdro: it should be ctrl+alt+F1-6 to get a virtual terminal alt+F7 to get back afaik | 05:19 |
| imneat | anyone know how to get the rhythmbox desktop visualization working? | 05:24 |
| favro | a quick google showed lots of bugs about that... | 05:31 |
| imneat | yea that's all i'm finding too - but all that I find are relating to the plugin not working at all or it causing freeze/crash | 05:34 |
| imneat | when I load it nothing happens. it's as though it thinks all is fine. | 05:34 |
| favro | there is #rhythmbox on gimp.net I think... | 05:36 |
| imneat | I'll check it out - thanks! | 05:38 |
| === ushimitsudoki1 is now known as ushimitsudoki | ||
| NunChucko | why does Wubi need to download the insatlation files when I got the disk ISO already? | 08:41 |
| NunChucko | never mind, it seems it stopped acting stupid | 08:41 |
| NunChucko | yeah there it goes | 08:41 |
| solotim | /join #c | 09:32 |
| solotim | /join hell | 09:32 |
| honkytonkwillie | I'm using Mint XFCE and I Flash doesn't ever work on Firefox. Is this a common issue? | 10:10 |
| honkytonkwillie | Sorry, wrong channel... | 10:11 |
| kwhk | hello | 10:14 |
| TheSheep | kwhk: what's the frequency? | 10:15 |
| kwhk | i was trying to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04. But got a problem in the middle. It said there was insufficient space and i need to clean up an additional 19M at '/'. | 10:16 |
| TheSheep | try sudo apt-get clean | 10:17 |
| TheSheep | (this will delete the packages it already downloaded) | 10:17 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: tried. it asked me for password. then i saw nothing happened. | 10:17 |
| TheSheep | kwhk: now check your free disk space | 10:18 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: at '/'? | 10:18 |
| TheSheep | type 'df -h' | 10:18 |
| kwhk | kenneth@kenneth-laptop:~$ df -h | 10:19 |
| kwhk | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on | 10:19 |
| kwhk | /dev/sda1 3.6G 2.3G 1.2G 67% / | 10:19 |
| kwhk | varrun 110M 108K 109M 1% /var/run | 10:19 |
| kwhk | varlock 110M 0 110M 0% /var/lock | 10:19 |
| kwhk | udev 110M 48K 109M 1% /dev | 10:19 |
| kwhk | devshm 110M 0 110M 0% /dev/shm | 10:19 |
| kwhk | lrm 110M 34M 76M 32% /lib/modules/2.6.22-15-generic/volatile | 10:19 |
| TheSheep | !pastebin | 10:19 |
| ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 10:19 |
| TheSheep | kwhk: besides, I don't need to know it, I just told you how to check it | 10:20 |
| TheSheep | kwhk: so you have 1.2G free on / now | 10:20 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: sorry. yes, but it shows 1.1G at the left bottom in "File Manager" | 10:21 |
| TheSheep | rounding error, I guess | 10:22 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: ok. | 10:22 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: is 1.2 too little? | 10:23 |
| TheSheep | no idea | 10:23 |
| TheSheep | I don't know how much you had before cleaning | 10:23 |
| solotim | /msg | 10:24 |
| solotim | /join #empathy | 10:24 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: sorry. pushed the wrong button so quitted. | 10:30 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: nothing else i can do to clean up, right? | 10:51 |
| TheSheep | you can upgrade in parts | 10:54 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: could you please so kind to tell me how to | 10:56 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: or point me to info on web? | 10:57 |
| TheSheep | kwhk: just install some of the packages it tried to install manually | 10:58 |
| TheSheep | it will pull some dependencies, install it all, then you do that clean, and then do normal upgrade, so it installs the rest | 10:58 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: in fact, it stopped there at the very early stage of upgrade and then rolled back automatically. not even at the stage of installing packages | 10:59 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| kwhk | TheSheep: hi | 12:30 |
| TheSheep | hi | 12:31 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: i was wondering what u meant by saying "what's the frequency" to me | 12:31 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: :) | 12:32 |
| TheSheep | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What's_the_Frequency,_Kenneth%3F | 12:32 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: i didn't know this. | 12:33 |
| TheSheep | sorry, I just remembered that when you joined | 12:36 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: i still couldn't clean up more disk space for the upgrade. seems that i need to do it from CD. | 12:40 |
| TheSheep | you are doing it with the gui tool> | 12:44 |
| TheSheep | ? | 12:44 |
| Johnramb00 | Hi, why can't i use dpkg correctly? I always stop after keys layout :( | 12:58 |
| favafro | trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg? | 13:02 |
| Johnramb00 | dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg? | 13:03 |
| Johnramb00 | I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. | 13:04 |
| Johnramb00 | But after choosing the keyboard layout i get: xserver-xorg postinst warining: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2008.0906135717 | 13:05 |
| favafro | that's normal :) - it's just making a backup | 13:06 |
| chris_debian | This is just telling you that you have changed the file. | 13:07 |
| === favafro is now known as favro | ||
| chris_debian | favafo beat me to it :-) | 13:07 |
| Johnramb00 | but i can't choose any resolution :(. | 13:10 |
| _sebastian_ | hi all, I have a old Dell Inspiron 4000 I installed xubuntu on but cant get a higher resolution to work, can anyone help? | 13:10 |
| Johnramb00 | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg try this :D | 13:11 |
| Johnramb00 | I mean: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" | 13:11 |
| _sebastian_ | on it | 13:11 |
| Johnramb00 | _sebastian_: But i remember, when I had configured my Dell Latitude I had to change the xorg.conf manually too :-S | 13:12 |
| _sebastian_ | yea until a few minutes ago I had 640x4... on my whole screen | 13:14 |
| _sebastian_ | I found a forum entry and entered the driver info into xorg.conf | 13:14 |
| _sebastian_ | and now I have a smaller part of the screen showing me my desktop at 640x4... and a black frame around it | 13:15 |
| Johnramb00 | You know how to restart X11? | 13:16 |
| _sebastian_ | yes | 13:16 |
| Johnramb00 | Okay, great. | 13:16 |
| Johnramb00 | So go to your terminal an enter: | 13:17 |
| _sebastian_ | some things I know quite good, some not at all :-) | 13:17 |
| Johnramb00 | sudo displayconfig-gtk | 13:17 |
| _sebastian_ | ahh, I've been there before some minutes ago | 13:18 |
| Johnramb00 | Like me :) I'm sitting in front of 3 screens and 2 of 'em waiting to be configured....also resolution problems :( | 13:18 |
| Johnramb00 | And what can you choose? | 13:18 |
| Johnramb00 | All resolutions in there? | 13:18 |
| _sebastian_ | 2 screens, first the notebook one has PnP at 800x600 61Hz | 13:19 |
| _sebastian_ | the other only res is 640x480 | 13:19 |
| _sebastian_ | on the driver tab there is VESA selected | 13:20 |
| Johnramb00 | Change it into your graphic card :) | 13:20 |
| _sebastian_ | I tried with ATI r128 driver | 13:20 |
| Johnramb00 | Or leave the X11 and go into Desktop 2/3 or what you want and then dpkg. | 13:20 |
| _sebastian_ | and? the r128 driver should be the right one from what I read inforums | 13:22 |
| _sebastian_ | dpkg... | 13:22 |
| Johnramb00 | It does not work? | 13:22 |
| Johnramb00 | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 13:22 |
| Johnramb00 | With that you reconfigure your whole settings for the xserver | 13:23 |
| _sebastian_ | leaving the screen settings as they are and changing only the driver causes a mess when clicking on the test button | 13:23 |
| _sebastian_ | I did reconfigure which left me with the same result as when I started here in the room :-( | 13:23 |
| Johnramb00 | Hm...i'm sorry. | 13:24 |
| Johnramb00 | I don't have any other ideas. | 13:24 |
| _sebastian_ | same happens when I try the ati driver not the r128... | 13:25 |
| Johnramb00 | But perhaps you'll find something here: http://ubuntuforums.org/ | 13:25 |
| _sebastian_ | thanks for helping | 13:25 |
| Johnramb00 | No problem. | 13:25 |
| Johnramb00 | Good luck for you :) | 13:25 |
| _sebastian_ | yea I checked there and there is a post which did what we did, thx again | 13:26 |
| Johnramb00 | ok | 13:26 |
| _sebastian_ | the thing is I had it running on gutsy... | 13:28 |
| ozkugh | good morning | 13:49 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: sorry, am just back from dinner. yes, i use gui tool | 13:52 |
| kwhk | TheSheep: any implication? | 13:55 |
| vidd | how does one add a directory to the PATH? | 14:46 |
| TheSheep | vidd: edit /etc/environ | 14:50 |
| vidd | ty | 14:51 |
| vidd | do i have to do something to make the changes take affect? | 14:53 |
| TheSheep | vidd: relog | 14:54 |
| TheSheep | vidd: or restart the terminal at least | 14:54 |
| TheSheep | vidd: you can also do it locally, only in single terminal | 14:54 |
| TheSheep | vidd: by executign that file | 14:54 |
| TheSheep | ting | 14:54 |
| vidd | rebooting now | 14:55 |
| vidd | for some reason sbin wasnt in my PATH | 14:56 |
| bringatowel | were you using the sudo command? | 14:59 |
| vidd | no | 14:59 |
| bringatowel | usually sbin is stuff that can only be run with sudo, right? | 15:09 |
| vidd | i dont believe so | 15:10 |
| vidd | iwconfig can be run by a user | 15:10 |
| bringatowel | there is probably another user version in /usr/bin or something | 15:11 |
| bringatowel | all the other programs look like root stuff, such as mkfs, fsck, swapon, and such | 15:11 |
| TheSheep | bringatowel: no, /sbin/iwconfig is the one that is run by default | 15:12 |
| TheSheep | bringatowel: try 'which iwconfig' | 15:12 |
| bringatowel | oh yeah, they are all 755 | 15:15 |
| bringatowel | hmm weird dunno why it wasnt in the path | 15:16 |
| === kwhk_ is now known as kw | ||
| vidd | ok....does the user have a seperate environment path? | 15:17 |
| vidd | i did sudo su and root has no issue so the global PATH is correct.... | 15:20 |
| vidd | it seams to just be my user | 15:20 |
| TheSheep | vidd: check your .bashrc and .bash_profile | 15:21 |
| vidd | ok...looking | 15:22 |
| bringatowel | TheSheep, sbin is not mentioned in either of those files for me | 15:23 |
| vidd | i dont even have a .bash_profile on the machine that works =\ | 15:24 |
| bringatowel | me neither | 15:27 |
| bringatowel | but sbin is still in my $PATH | 15:27 |
| vidd | ok....its my desktop manager | 15:27 |
| vidd | i switched to tty, and it worked, terminal on desktop did not | 15:28 |
| bringatowel | ahh, thats funny | 15:28 |
| vidd | thanks for helping me to think more clearly =] | 15:28 |
| bringatowel | hehe good thing you did, i had no clue what might be wrong :D | 15:29 |
| vidd | i set up "slim" instead of gdm for desktop manager | 15:29 |
| vidd | so i brought this on myself =] | 15:29 |
| kwhk2 | TheSheep: hi, me again. earlier u asked whether i used gui tool for upgrade. yes, i did. does this help? or are there any alternatives? | 15:30 |
| bringatowel | haha that always happens, when something is broken it can be traced to something i messed up =P | 15:33 |
| vidd | i wouldnt say i "messed up" | 15:33 |
| vidd | just havent ironed out all the wrinkles yet =] | 15:34 |
| bringatowel | fair enough, well mistakes or any challenges are on the path to learning more anyway =) | 15:35 |
| TheSheep | kwhk2: yes, let me see | 15:36 |
| TheSheep | !upgrade | 15:36 |
| ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes | 15:36 |
| TheSheep | kwhk2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended) | 15:38 |
| vidd | bringatowel, the issue is clear as day....as soon as i opened the slim.conf file | 15:38 |
| kwhk2 | TheSheep: yes, i followed steps in that instruction | 15:39 |
| bringatowel | vidd, thats good to hear, how do you like slim? never tried that one myself | 15:39 |
| vidd | 3rd line" default_path [incorrect info here] | 15:39 |
| vidd | its sweet | 15:39 |
| vidd | runs better on the 256k ram lappy | 15:40 |
| TheSheep | kwhk2: you can upgrade with apt-get, but I'm not 100% sure it will do everything that autoated upgrade does | 15:40 |
| vidd | gdm is like pushing a hourse through a doggy door | 15:40 |
| TheSheep | vidd: well, ubuntu needs accessibility... | 15:41 |
| TheSheep | vidd: screenreader, braile terminal... | 15:41 |
| vidd | TheSheep, i understand that | 15:44 |
| vidd | and that is why they say more ram | 15:44 |
| vidd | i dont have the ram, so i have to cut out some of the features i dont personally need | 15:45 |
| TheSheep | yeah | 15:45 |
| TheSheep | like chinese input methods | 15:45 |
| TheSheep | and fonts | 15:45 |
| vidd | which means, of course, headaches for going agfainst the grain | 15:46 |
| vidd | or oppertunities to learn | 15:46 |
| vidd | whichever viewpoint you prefer | 15:46 |
| vidd | and i finally beat it into submission! | 16:02 |
| === emma is now known as |riVen| | ||
| === |riVen| is now known as emma | ||
| === hallo0123 is now known as hallo0123_essen | ||
| === hallo0123_essen is now known as hallo0123 | ||
| slow-motion | hi | 19:55 |
| vinnl | Hey slow-motion | 19:55 |
| slow-motion | hi vinnl | 19:55 |
| slow-motion | pidgin is strange i ignore a user and he still talks to me | 19:56 |
| vinnl | Might be a bug | 19:56 |
| cody-somerville | lol | 19:57 |
| cody-somerville | I experience that once and awhile too | 19:57 |
| slow-motion | its not a bug, its a feature. pretend you ignore hin and still get the shit he talks. | 19:58 |
| cody-somerville | Thats definitely not a feature : P | 19:59 |
| vinnl | :P | 19:59 |
| vidd | only M$ calls stuff like that "Features" | 19:59 |
| * slow-motion whistles | 20:00 | |
| vidd | like when they introduced MSDOS and hitting the ctrl+alt+del would crash the OS, they called it a "feature" | 20:00 |
| vidd | like they planned it or something | 20:00 |
| vidd | =] | 20:00 |
| cody-somerville | Actually, it was intentional | 20:01 |
| cody-somerville | It was a debugging feature for developers but people liked it so much that they kept it in | 20:02 |
| vidd | i wasnt there...so i dont know | 20:02 |
| slow-motion | you mean the reboot was a systen crash? | 20:02 |
| cody-somerville | no | 20:02 |
| vidd | the story i heard was it was an oopps | 20:02 |
| xindo | anyone know of a way to configure a touchpad in xubuntu? | 20:03 |
| slow-motion | so someone build it in msdos to reboot the system when something goes wrong? | 20:03 |
| cody-somerville | slow-motion, pretty much. | 20:04 |
| cody-somerville | xindo, Good question :-) | 20:04 |
| cody-somerville | xindo, I want to disable tapping on my touchpad but our mouse configuration dialogue doesn't seem to feature that option. | 20:04 |
| * vidd only knows how to disable it | 20:04 | |
| xindo | works fine, but every time i barely graze it, it registers as a tap | 20:05 |
| * cody-somerville nods. | 20:05 | |
| vidd | xindo, this is kinda old...but worth a look-see | 20:06 |
| vidd | http://strabes.wordpress.com/2006/11/04/change-touchpad-sensitivity-in-ubuntu/ | 20:06 |
| xindo | vidd: good stuff, the link it provides is extremely detailed | 20:08 |
| xindo | tells you how to disable touch pad while typing, exactly what I need | 20:10 |
| cody-somerville | !touchpad | 20:11 |
| ubottu | For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad | 20:11 |
| w00t- | i have an IBM T41, the radeon mobile 7500 is supposed to be supported out of the box, but i can't turn any desktop effects on. any ideas? | 20:14 |
| livingdaylight | hi | 21:15 |
| livingdaylight | is there a xubuntu ppc iso? | 21:16 |
| vinnl | Somewhere, I believe | 21:16 |
| livingdaylight | i have an iBook G3 400mhz | 21:16 |
| cody-somerville | For what release? | 21:16 |
| vinnl | Hmm, but I can't find it :( | 21:16 |
| livingdaylight | otherwise there is ubuntu ppc alternate disc. Install cli and then install xfce on top for X | 21:17 |
| vidd | that was my recomendation.... | 21:17 |
| vidd | do0es that ppc have internet access? | 21:17 |
| livingdaylight | easier if there already was an xfce ppc completee | 21:17 |
| livingdaylight | can do | 21:18 |
| vidd | livingdaylight, does that ppc have internet? you can do the mini iso and it will let you add whatever desktop ya want | 21:18 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: you can do the mini iso? | 21:19 |
| vidd | yes | 21:19 |
| vidd | im looking for the iso link now | 21:19 |
| livingdaylight | the reason i repeat with '?' is coz i don't know what mini iso is, so 'yes' doesn't help me, lol :) | 21:19 |
| livingdaylight | the machine only has 128mb ram, but i'm looking on eBay to find more which will help | 21:20 |
| vidd | what the mini does is it just has enough info to get your machine connected to your broadband internet | 21:20 |
| vidd | it downloads everything else from the internet "on the fly" | 21:20 |
| livingdaylight | is that xubuntu? | 21:22 |
| livingdaylight | otherwise i was thinking of debian ppc + e17 | 21:22 |
| vidd | the mini is cli, and lets you choose to install whatever you want at the end.... | 21:23 |
| vidd | lamp, ubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu, whatever....lots of choises | 21:23 |
| vidd | i just need to find where the #%^&#$%^ ppc iso's are | 21:24 |
| Maximilian1st | Hi all. | 21:24 |
| cody-somerville | Hi | 21:24 |
| Maximilian1st | You are here too :-) | 21:25 |
| Maximilian1st | Good thing, anyway. | 21:25 |
| vidd | livingdaylight, it would appear that PPC is no longer supported.... | 21:25 |
| Maximilian1st | I wasx wondering what happens if I install a goodie from svn, source install over an xubuntu packeged version? | 21:25 |
| vidd | i can help ya get the older version, and you can apt-get update to the latest version | 21:26 |
| * cody-somerville is bugging them to get the PPC port building again. | 21:26 | |
| vinnl | Maximilian1st, why wouldn't you first uninstall the packaged version? :) | 21:26 |
| Maximilian1st | Yeah, why. I don't know, imagine the case where I would compile a new xfdesktop... | 21:27 |
| vinnl | Maximilian1st, you mean you want to try Xfce 4.6 or something? Because it's been packaged for Xubuntu 8.10 | 21:28 |
| Maximilian1st | Why, I'll tell you. I'm affraid of loosing things. But in the end, There is no good reason for it. You're right. | 21:28 |
| vidd | Maximilian1st, all i can say is "tell us what happens...and make a back-up!" | 21:28 |
| vinnl | ^.^ | 21:28 |
| Maximilian1st | :-) | 21:28 |
| Maximilian1st | Good point. | 21:28 |
| Maximilian1st | The thing is, I'm giving final touches to the French translation and have no idea what some otions are made for, I really need to look in the menus to be sure of what and how I should translate it., | 21:29 |
| vidd | Maximilian1st, is your /home on a seperate partition like all testing machine should?(IMO) | 21:30 |
| Maximilian1st | Oh wonderfull world.... No, sorry, I do backup important stuff though and can recover within an hour. I use a notebook, and that is all I have. | 21:31 |
| vidd | if so, in the event of a total disaster, you can re-intall without overwriting the /home partition | 21:31 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: yes, that might do it | 21:32 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: i did download ubuntu alternate from which i can install a basic cli install. From there i can install xubuntu-desktop for eg? | 21:33 |
| vidd | yes | 21:34 |
| vidd | but that is messy imo | 21:34 |
| Maximilian1st | Why? | 21:34 |
| Maximilian1st | xubuntu-desktop is a meta package, no? | 21:34 |
| Maximilian1st | meta? an empty package that triggers a lot of others? | 21:35 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: i agree, but i'm not finding any easy alternatives | 21:35 |
| vidd | because you get the ubuntu splash, the god-awefull discusting color screme | 21:35 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: not many distros have ppc iso | 21:35 |
| vidd | true | 21:35 |
| vidd | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/mini.iso | 21:36 |
| vidd | this gives MUCH better boot experience.... | 21:36 |
| vidd | and lets you install the desktop during install | 21:36 |
| vidd | and its TINY | 21:36 |
| livingdaylight | kewl | 21:37 |
| livingdaylight | THANK YOU vidd | 21:37 |
| vidd | no problem | 21:37 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: "the desktop"? | 21:37 |
| livingdaylight | xubuntu? | 21:37 |
| vidd | yes....xubuntu-desktop | 21:38 |
| livingdaylight | that's already downloaded? | 21:38 |
| vidd | its at the very end of the install process | 21:38 |
| livingdaylight | 12.8mb iso? | 21:38 |
| vidd | you have a list of all available meta-packages....you choose which (if any) you want to install | 21:38 |
| livingdaylight | meta packages such as? | 21:39 |
| vidd | yes...i told you its tiny | 21:39 |
| livingdaylight | that is really tiny. the ubuntu alternate i downloaded earlier is 600+mb's | 21:39 |
| vidd | LAMP....Xubuntu-desktop....DNS Server....etc | 21:39 |
| livingdaylight | xubuntu-desktop is all i need i believe | 21:40 |
| vidd | its so small because all it has is what is needed to get your wired lan card working so you can connect to the internet | 21:40 |
| vidd | everything (and i mean EVERYTHING) else is downloaded off the internet | 21:41 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: i read on one debian tutorial and what they told me in #debianppc also is that the oldworld macintoshes may require original MacOS cd's What is your experience? | 21:42 |
| Olivier66 | Hi, someone speak french ? | 21:45 |
| livingdaylight | Olivier66: ouip un peux mais je ne parle pas xubuntu :/ | 21:45 |
| vinnl | Un petit peut :P | 21:45 |
| Maximilian1st | no problemo ici | 21:45 |
| livingdaylight | Olivier66: alors, c'est quoi la question? | 21:46 |
| Olivier66 | I don't know why the windows menu are so bigger in openoffice ? | 21:46 |
| Maximilian1st | Quel est le sens de la vie? | 21:47 |
| Maximilian1st | That is strange French you write... So bigger than... | 21:47 |
| Olivier66 | mets ton gps max | 21:47 |
| Maximilian1st | pas compris le gag :-p | 21:48 |
| Maximilian1st | Ah, oui | 21:48 |
| Maximilian1st | c'est bon. Il est tard ici. | 21:48 |
| Olivier66 | Pourquoi les fenêtre des menus son si énorme sous openoffice | 21:48 |
| Maximilian1st | comparé avec quoi? | 21:48 |
| livingdaylight | les grandes fenetres c'est du bon Feng shui | 21:49 |
| Olivier66 | toute les autres applications de l'environnement xubuntu | 21:49 |
| livingdaylight | pour laisser entrer la lumiere | 21:49 |
| vinnl | xD | 21:49 |
| Maximilian1st | that was a good one ^^ | 21:49 |
| Olivier66 | le problême est qu'elles dépasse de mon écran | 21:50 |
| vinnl | OpenOffice uses it's own methods of displaying everything, I suppose you can set the font size in its preferences | 21:50 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: te encore la? | 21:50 |
| Maximilian1st | J'ai le même problème avec les paramètres de evolution, énorme fenêtre... | 21:50 |
| vidd | huh? | 21:50 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: vidd: i read on one debian tutorial and what they told me in #debianppc also is that the oldworld macintoshes may require original MacOS cd's What is yourexperinece? | 21:51 |
| Olivier66 | max tu me comprends, c'est d'autant plus ennuyeux que je parviens difficilement à convertir ma femme de travailler avec | 21:52 |
| vidd | i avoid MACs like the plague | 21:52 |
| * vidd has never touched a MAC in his life | 21:52 | |
| livingdaylight | vidd: it's not mine. My friend next door has just inherited his son's old mac g3, who's given me the greeen light to go ahead and revive the old machine with a linux based distro as the old os9.1 is no longer supported and supportable in both sense of the word | 21:53 |
| Maximilian1st | Je comprends tout à fait. Il faut peut-être essayer de changer la taille de la police principale pour tout le système et sinon, chercher dans openoffice pour changer l'aaparence générale de la bête... | 21:53 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: beautiful hardware though, common :) | 21:54 |
| vidd | from what I understand (through word of mouth only) is that you van download the software easily | 21:55 |
| Olivier66 | dans les paramêtre OO rien de concluant je vais chercher un tuto pour réduire la police du system | 21:55 |
| livingdaylight | Maximilian1st: "Il faut peut-?tre essayer de changer la taille de la police principale..." <--- OMG? | 21:55 |
| vidd | and all this french is making my head hurt! | 21:55 |
| vinnl | :P | 21:55 |
| Olivier66 | I hope it's not difficult | 21:55 |
| vinnl | And here I was thinking the French never speak English... | 21:56 |
| vidd | at least i think its french | 21:56 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: well, that is what i'm hoping because they no longer have the mac os discs | 21:56 |
| vidd | does the MAC hav a burner? | 21:56 |
| livingdaylight | vidd: dont' think so, why? | 21:57 |
| vidd | cuzz i think the reason you need the "old disks" is to get the PPC to recognize and read i386-burned disks' | 21:57 |
| vidd | this again is only speculation | 21:58 |
| livingdaylight | ahhh... that's an intersting theory | 21:58 |
| vidd | and with that....i need to take my last break | 21:58 |
| vidd | be back in a few | 21:58 |
| Maximilian1st | ok Olivier66 , you should go in Outils>Option...>Affichage and change the icon size to small. | 21:59 |
| Maximilian1st | You could have found that yourself. | 22:00 |
| Maximilian1st | Olivier66, Does that solve your issue? | 22:00 |
| Maximilian1st | vidd, See how I bravely make an effort and only write English. You will feel better ;-p | 22:01 |
| Maximilian1st | was a joke, no offense meant. :-) | 22:02 |
| Olivier66 | Merci max mais il ne s'agit pas des icones mais des dimentions trop grande des fenetres des menus de la barre d'outil | 22:03 |
| Maximilian1st | As-tu un exemple de menu trop grand que je puisse au moins voir cela ici? | 22:05 |
| Olivier66 | simple, outil/options la fenêtre prend toute la largeur de l'ecran | 22:07 |
| * vinnl is going to try and boot into Intrepid now, later | 22:08 | |
| Maximilian1st | Olivier66, quelle résolution d'écran sur cette machine? | 22:08 |
| Maximilian1st | Olivier66, j'ai du 1024 ici et le menu des options rempli presque toute la largeur en effet. | 22:10 |
| Olivier66 | c'est par défaut dans les paramêtre d'affichage avec unique possibilité d'être en 800*600, j'ai un ibm thonkpad m40 | 22:11 |
| Maximilian1st | Mais il permet d'avoir du 1024 cet écran? | 22:11 |
| Olivier66 | oui car avant avec xp c'était possible | 22:12 |
| * cody-somerville blinks. | 22:14 | |
| cody-somerville | Oh dieu, oh dieu. Le français envahit. | 22:14 |
| Maximilian1st | cody-somerville, stay cool folks... This user has a screen resolution problem. | 22:15 |
| cody-somerville | :-] | 22:16 |
| Olivier66 | c'est fini cody depuis Napoleon | 22:16 |
| Maximilian1st | cody-somerville, is gtk-display still used to change resolution? | 22:16 |
| cody-somerville | It can be. | 22:17 |
| Maximilian1st | What is the Xubuntu way? | 22:17 |
| cody-somerville | To use Applications > Settings > Display | 22:17 |
| cody-somerville | gtk-config is defunct except for x-failsafe | 22:17 |
| cody-somerville | Although I often use it (though it generally involves a lot of cursing). | 22:17 |
| Maximilian1st | you have an applications settings display menju? that is gnome you are talking about? Or is it me that has only xfce menu style. | 22:18 |
| Olivier66 | xfce | 22:18 |
| vidd | Maximilian1st, its you | 22:18 |
| Olivier66 | Max alors si chez toi avec du 1024 du as la même chose je ne vais pas chercher à compliquer | 22:18 |
| Maximilian1st | vidd, must be me :-) | 22:19 |
| vidd | all 8 of my xubuntu machines have that menu system =] | 22:19 |
| Maximilian1st | That is weird... Mine doesn't, only when I log in gnome do I have these menus. | 22:20 |
| vidd | gnome? or gdm? | 22:20 |
| cody-somerville | Default is only Applications and Places menu | 22:20 |
| Maximilian1st | I mean it, gnome | 22:20 |
| Maximilian1st | We all use gdm, don't we? | 22:21 |
| cody-somerville | Yes | 22:21 |
| vidd | well....i set a machine to load slim as the manager...but its very weak in the ram department | 22:21 |
| vidd | and dont count as one of my xubuntu machines | 22:22 |
| Olivier66 | Merci de votre aide, good night everybody | 22:22 |
| Maximilian1st | Now, I remember I had to twinkle xorg.conf so my resolutions appear in display, the xfce display menu | 22:22 |
| Maximilian1st | Olivier66, good night. | 22:22 |
| vidd | did he say "thanks for the help"? (my french really is bad) | 22:23 |
| Maximilian1st | vidd, He's not gone yet... | 22:23 |
| Maximilian1st | by the way he still is stuck with his laptop showing only 800x600 | 22:24 |
| vidd | yeah...but hes not talking english much either | 22:24 |
| Maximilian1st | You can't blame him for that. | 22:24 |
| vidd | does he have "default" listed in his applications->settings->settings manager ... Display? | 22:25 |
| vidd | nvmd then | 22:25 |
| Maximilian1st | nvmd? | 22:26 |
| vidd | time for me to go home | 22:26 |
| vidd | nvmd = never mind | 22:26 |
| Maximilian1st | :-) | 22:26 |
| vidd | night all | 22:26 |
| Maximilian1st | Good way back home. | 22:26 |
| Maximilian1st | cody-somerville, Can I recreate this menu somehow? | 22:27 |
| cody-somerville | yup | 22:29 |
| Maximilian1st | enlighten me | 22:29 |
| cody-somerville | You just create an xml file that conforms to the f.d.o spec | 22:30 |
| Maximilian1st | I created a new panel on top, it has the places for now | 22:30 |
| cody-somerville | oh, I misunderstand | 22:30 |
| cody-somerville | Right click, add new item, xfce menu at the bottom of the list | 22:30 |
| === Rakeer13 is now known as Rakeer | ||
| Rakeer | what is the default partition manager in x? | 23:07 |
| favro | there is gparted on the live cd Rakeer - partitions have to be unmounted to change them and the live cd is easiest for that imo | 23:10 |
| Rakeer | favro: is there a way just to view current partition sizes/labels? | 23:11 |
| Rakeer | Id like to pass along the info, but I forgot which sizes I did for newwrold and swap | 23:11 |
| favro | Rakeer: sudo fdisk -l should do the trick | 23:11 |
| Rakeer | ty, will try | 23:11 |
| Rakeer | odd, I get no output from that command | 23:12 |
| favro | try df -h | 23:13 |
| favro | sudo fdisk -l should work tho... | 23:14 |
| Rakeer | hhm, gives me some info, but not very specific.. | 23:15 |
| Rakeer | favro: I believe you, however it just returns to a prompt when I run it, no output, nothing | 23:15 |
| RYknow | Hey guys, could someone help me out with screenlets. | 23:17 |
| RYknow | I've got it installed. When I start it up, it keeps asking to create a autostart dir. When I click yes, it put the dor on my desktop | 23:18 |
| RYknow | I don't want the folder sitting there though. | 23:18 |
| RYknow | I tried to create a dir in my home folder, but it says there is already one there. | 23:18 |
| favro | RYknow: starting it from terminal? | 23:19 |
| favro | RYknow: afaik there is a hidden folder in your home folder called .config - in there is a Aotostart folder - move the desktop folder into there maybe | 23:22 |
| favro | *Autostart | 23:22 |
| RYknow | I'll try that. | 23:23 |
| RYknow | I tried to copy/paste the folder from my desktop, just to my home folder, and it wouldn't let me do that. | 23:24 |
| RYknow | I copy/pasted to folder to the auto start in .config. | 23:25 |
| RYknow | After restarting screenlets, it's still asking me if I want it to create an autostart. | 23:26 |
| RYknow | I'm not starting screenlets from the terminal. | 23:26 |
| RYknow | It's if I go Applications - Settings - Screenlets | 23:26 |
| favro | RYknow: can you open a terminal and enter in it cd ~/.config/Autostart | 23:29 |
| favro | RYknow: then type in screenlets and hit enter | 23:30 |
| RYknow | When i cd to Autostart. If I just type screenlets, it says "command not found? | 23:32 |
| RYknow | I'm still pretty new to linux. So bare with me please. heh. | 23:32 |
| RYknow | Hey man. I gotta run to the store. Hopefully you'll still be here when I get back. I'd like to get this resolved if I can tonight. | 23:34 |
| RYknow | bbiab. | 23:34 |
| favro | RYknow: there should be a folder in .config called Screenlets - if there isn't you need to make one apparently | 23:47 |
| favro | RYknow: and the command is screenlets-manager | 23:49 |
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