[00:02] Odd-rationale: Cheers for the help. I'm off now. Later" [00:02] k see ya [00:25] hi [00:26] how are you all doing? [02:00] hello, just installed xubuntu and all was fine until I installed restricted drivers, uptaded my system and rebooted. now all I get is a background and a mouse-pointer when I login. what the hell? yes please help me :o [02:00] superspuck: press alt+f2, type 'xfce4-panel' [02:01] already tried that, nothing happend [02:01] superspuck: nothing happened when you pressed alt+f2? [02:01] superspuck: or when you typed that nad pressed enter? [02:01] no when I executed xfce4-panel [02:02] superspuck: ok, try xfce4-terminal and then xfce4-panel in it [02:03] that one fails to execute [02:03] no such thing [02:03] superspuck: with what meesage? [02:03] message? [02:03] failed to execute child process [02:03] in terminal? [02:04] ah there it is :P [02:05] only one problem can't see more than 25% of the terminal [02:05] but nothing happens when i write xfce4-panel [02:06] !nothing [02:06] Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail. [02:06] yes I mean nothing since I can't see the terminal [02:06] then resize it [02:07] alt+shift+arrows [02:07] why can't you see it? [02:08] yeah managed to catch it [02:09] ** Message: xfce4-panel already running [02:09] it's a ghost ^^ [02:09] maybe your virtual screen is larger than physical, and you have it scrolled so that you don't see the panel? [02:10] oh yeah that makes sense there's a lot of overscan [02:10] xubuntu uses xorg.conf? [02:11] yeah, you can configure it with 'sudo displayconfig-gtk' [02:12] ah yes now I see everything, thank you thank you ^^ [02:13] :) === Odd-rationale__ is now known as Odd-rationale [04:37] how do you mount a windows file system? [04:54] I'm seeing a bit of weird behaviour on startup. if i hit alt-f4 it switches to terminal like normal but the colors are green and blue. [04:54] also, trying to switch to a terminal once it's running only gives me a black screen no login prompt. [05:19] gaurdro: it should be ctrl+alt+F1-6 to get a virtual terminal alt+F7 to get back afaik [05:24] anyone know how to get the rhythmbox desktop visualization working? [05:31] a quick google showed lots of bugs about that... [05:34] yea that's all i'm finding too - but all that I find are relating to the plugin not working at all or it causing freeze/crash [05:34] when I load it nothing happens. it's as though it thinks all is fine. [05:36] there is #rhythmbox on gimp.net I think... [05:38] I'll check it out - thanks! === ushimitsudoki1 is now known as ushimitsudoki [08:41] why does Wubi need to download the insatlation files when I got the disk ISO already? [08:41] never mind, it seems it stopped acting stupid [08:41] yeah there it goes [09:32] /join #c [09:32] /join hell [10:10] I'm using Mint XFCE and I Flash doesn't ever work on Firefox. Is this a common issue? [10:11] Sorry, wrong channel... [10:14] hello [10:15] kwhk: what's the frequency? [10:16] i was trying to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04. But got a problem in the middle. It said there was insufficient space and i need to clean up an additional 19M at '/'. [10:17] try sudo apt-get clean [10:17] (this will delete the packages it already downloaded) [10:17] TheSheep: tried. it asked me for password. then i saw nothing happened. [10:18] kwhk: now check your free disk space [10:18] TheSheep: at '/'? [10:18] type 'df -h' [10:19] kenneth@kenneth-laptop:~$ df -h [10:19] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [10:19] /dev/sda1 3.6G 2.3G 1.2G 67% / [10:19] varrun 110M 108K 109M 1% /var/run [10:19] varlock 110M 0 110M 0% /var/lock [10:19] udev 110M 48K 109M 1% /dev [10:19] devshm 110M 0 110M 0% /dev/shm [10:19] lrm 110M 34M 76M 32% /lib/modules/2.6.22-15-generic/volatile [10:19] !pastebin [10:19] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [10:20] kwhk: besides, I don't need to know it, I just told you how to check it [10:20] kwhk: so you have 1.2G free on / now [10:21] TheSheep: sorry. yes, but it shows 1.1G at the left bottom in "File Manager" [10:22] rounding error, I guess [10:22] TheSheep: ok. [10:23] TheSheep: is 1.2 too little? [10:23] no idea [10:23] I don't know how much you had before cleaning [10:24] /msg [10:24] /join #empathy [10:30] TheSheep: sorry. pushed the wrong button so quitted. [10:51] TheSheep: nothing else i can do to clean up, right? [10:54] you can upgrade in parts [10:56] TheSheep: could you please so kind to tell me how to [10:57] TheSheep: or point me to info on web? [10:58] kwhk: just install some of the packages it tried to install manually [10:58] it will pull some dependencies, install it all, then you do that clean, and then do normal upgrade, so it installs the rest [10:59] TheSheep: in fact, it stopped there at the very early stage of upgrade and then rolled back automatically. not even at the stage of installing packages === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [12:30] TheSheep: hi [12:31] hi [12:31] TheSheep: i was wondering what u meant by saying "what's the frequency" to me [12:32] TheSheep: :) [12:32] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What's_the_Frequency,_Kenneth%3F [12:33] TheSheep: i didn't know this. [12:36] sorry, I just remembered that when you joined [12:40] TheSheep: i still couldn't clean up more disk space for the upgrade. seems that i need to do it from CD. [12:44] you are doing it with the gui tool> [12:44] ? [12:58] Hi, why can't i use dpkg correctly? I always stop after keys layout :( [13:02] trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg? [13:03] dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg? [13:04] I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. [13:05] But after choosing the keyboard layout i get: xserver-xorg postinst warining: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2008.0906135717 [13:06] that's normal :) - it's just making a backup [13:07] This is just telling you that you have changed the file. === favafro is now known as favro [13:07] favafo beat me to it :-) [13:10] but i can't choose any resolution :(. [13:10] <_sebastian_> hi all, I have a old Dell Inspiron 4000 I installed xubuntu on but cant get a higher resolution to work, can anyone help? [13:11] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg try this :D [13:11] I mean: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" [13:11] <_sebastian_> on it [13:12] _sebastian_: But i remember, when I had configured my Dell Latitude I had to change the xorg.conf manually too :-S [13:14] <_sebastian_> yea until a few minutes ago I had 640x4... on my whole screen [13:14] <_sebastian_> I found a forum entry and entered the driver info into xorg.conf [13:15] <_sebastian_> and now I have a smaller part of the screen showing me my desktop at 640x4... and a black frame around it [13:16] You know how to restart X11? [13:16] <_sebastian_> yes [13:16] Okay, great. [13:17] So go to your terminal an enter: [13:17] <_sebastian_> some things I know quite good, some not at all :-) [13:17] sudo displayconfig-gtk [13:18] <_sebastian_> ahh, I've been there before some minutes ago [13:18] Like me :) I'm sitting in front of 3 screens and 2 of 'em waiting to be configured....also resolution problems :( [13:18] And what can you choose? [13:18] All resolutions in there? [13:19] <_sebastian_> 2 screens, first the notebook one has PnP at 800x600 61Hz [13:19] <_sebastian_> the other only res is 640x480 [13:20] <_sebastian_> on the driver tab there is VESA selected [13:20] Change it into your graphic card :) [13:20] <_sebastian_> I tried with ATI r128 driver [13:20] Or leave the X11 and go into Desktop 2/3 or what you want and then dpkg. [13:22] <_sebastian_> and? the r128 driver should be the right one from what I read inforums [13:22] <_sebastian_> dpkg... [13:22] It does not work? [13:22] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [13:23] With that you reconfigure your whole settings for the xserver [13:23] <_sebastian_> leaving the screen settings as they are and changing only the driver causes a mess when clicking on the test button [13:23] <_sebastian_> I did reconfigure which left me with the same result as when I started here in the room :-( [13:24] Hm...i'm sorry. [13:24] I don't have any other ideas. [13:25] <_sebastian_> same happens when I try the ati driver not the r128... [13:25] But perhaps you'll find something here: http://ubuntuforums.org/ [13:25] <_sebastian_> thanks for helping [13:25] No problem. [13:25] Good luck for you :) [13:26] <_sebastian_> yea I checked there and there is a post which did what we did, thx again [13:26] ok [13:28] <_sebastian_> the thing is I had it running on gutsy... [13:49] good morning [13:52] TheSheep: sorry, am just back from dinner. yes, i use gui tool [13:55] TheSheep: any implication? [14:46] how does one add a directory to the PATH? [14:50] vidd: edit /etc/environ [14:51] ty [14:53] do i have to do something to make the changes take affect? [14:54] vidd: relog [14:54] vidd: or restart the terminal at least [14:54] vidd: you can also do it locally, only in single terminal [14:54] vidd: by executign that file [14:54] ting [14:55] rebooting now [14:56] for some reason sbin wasnt in my PATH [14:59] were you using the sudo command? [14:59] no [15:09] usually sbin is stuff that can only be run with sudo, right? [15:10] i dont believe so [15:10] iwconfig can be run by a user [15:11] there is probably another user version in /usr/bin or something [15:11] all the other programs look like root stuff, such as mkfs, fsck, swapon, and such [15:12] bringatowel: no, /sbin/iwconfig is the one that is run by default [15:12] bringatowel: try 'which iwconfig' [15:15] oh yeah, they are all 755 [15:16] hmm weird dunno why it wasnt in the path === kwhk_ is now known as kw [15:17] ok....does the user have a seperate environment path? [15:20] i did sudo su and root has no issue so the global PATH is correct.... [15:20] it seams to just be my user [15:21] vidd: check your .bashrc and .bash_profile [15:22] ok...looking [15:23] TheSheep, sbin is not mentioned in either of those files for me [15:24] i dont even have a .bash_profile on the machine that works =\ [15:27] me neither [15:27] but sbin is still in my $PATH [15:27] ok....its my desktop manager [15:28] i switched to tty, and it worked, terminal on desktop did not [15:28] ahh, thats funny [15:28] thanks for helping me to think more clearly =] [15:29] hehe good thing you did, i had no clue what might be wrong :D [15:29] i set up "slim" instead of gdm for desktop manager [15:29] so i brought this on myself =] [15:30] TheSheep: hi, me again. earlier u asked whether i used gui tool for upgrade. yes, i did. does this help? or are there any alternatives? [15:33] haha that always happens, when something is broken it can be traced to something i messed up =P [15:33] i wouldnt say i "messed up" [15:34] just havent ironed out all the wrinkles yet =] [15:35] fair enough, well mistakes or any challenges are on the path to learning more anyway =) [15:36] kwhk2: yes, let me see [15:36] !upgrade [15:36] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [15:38] kwhk2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended) [15:38] bringatowel, the issue is clear as day....as soon as i opened the slim.conf file [15:39] TheSheep: yes, i followed steps in that instruction [15:39] vidd, thats good to hear, how do you like slim? never tried that one myself [15:39] 3rd line" default_path [incorrect info here] [15:39] its sweet [15:40] runs better on the 256k ram lappy [15:40] kwhk2: you can upgrade with apt-get, but I'm not 100% sure it will do everything that autoated upgrade does [15:40] gdm is like pushing a hourse through a doggy door [15:41] vidd: well, ubuntu needs accessibility... [15:41] vidd: screenreader, braile terminal... [15:44] TheSheep, i understand that [15:44] and that is why they say more ram [15:45] i dont have the ram, so i have to cut out some of the features i dont personally need [15:45] yeah [15:45] like chinese input methods [15:45] and fonts [15:46] which means, of course, headaches for going agfainst the grain [15:46] or oppertunities to learn [15:46] whichever viewpoint you prefer [16:02] and i finally beat it into submission! === emma is now known as |riVen| === |riVen| is now known as emma === hallo0123 is now known as hallo0123_essen === hallo0123_essen is now known as hallo0123 [19:55] hi [19:55] Hey slow-motion [19:55] hi vinnl [19:56] pidgin is strange i ignore a user and he still talks to me [19:56] Might be a bug [19:57] lol [19:57] I experience that once and awhile too [19:58] its not a bug, its a feature. pretend you ignore hin and still get the shit he talks. [19:59] Thats definitely not a feature : P [19:59] :P [19:59] only M$ calls stuff like that "Features" [20:00] * slow-motion whistles [20:00] like when they introduced MSDOS and hitting the ctrl+alt+del would crash the OS, they called it a "feature" [20:00] like they planned it or something [20:00] =] [20:01] Actually, it was intentional [20:02] It was a debugging feature for developers but people liked it so much that they kept it in [20:02] i wasnt there...so i dont know [20:02] you mean the reboot was a systen crash? [20:02] no [20:02] the story i heard was it was an oopps [20:03] anyone know of a way to configure a touchpad in xubuntu? [20:03] so someone build it in msdos to reboot the system when something goes wrong? [20:04] slow-motion, pretty much. [20:04] xindo, Good question :-) [20:04] xindo, I want to disable tapping on my touchpad but our mouse configuration dialogue doesn't seem to feature that option. [20:04] * vidd only knows how to disable it [20:05] works fine, but every time i barely graze it, it registers as a tap [20:05] * cody-somerville nods. [20:06] xindo, this is kinda old...but worth a look-see [20:06] http://strabes.wordpress.com/2006/11/04/change-touchpad-sensitivity-in-ubuntu/ [20:08] vidd: good stuff, the link it provides is extremely detailed [20:10] tells you how to disable touch pad while typing, exactly what I need [20:11] !touchpad [20:11] For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad [20:14] i have an IBM T41, the radeon mobile 7500 is supposed to be supported out of the box, but i can't turn any desktop effects on. any ideas? [21:15] hi [21:16] is there a xubuntu ppc iso? [21:16] Somewhere, I believe [21:16] i have an iBook G3 400mhz [21:16] For what release? [21:16] Hmm, but I can't find it :( [21:17] otherwise there is ubuntu ppc alternate disc. Install cli and then install xfce on top for X [21:17] that was my recomendation.... [21:17] do0es that ppc have internet access? [21:17] easier if there already was an xfce ppc completee [21:18] can do [21:18] livingdaylight, does that ppc have internet? you can do the mini iso and it will let you add whatever desktop ya want [21:19] vidd: you can do the mini iso? [21:19] yes [21:19] im looking for the iso link now [21:19] the reason i repeat with '?' is coz i don't know what mini iso is, so 'yes' doesn't help me, lol :) [21:20] the machine only has 128mb ram, but i'm looking on eBay to find more which will help [21:20] what the mini does is it just has enough info to get your machine connected to your broadband internet [21:20] it downloads everything else from the internet "on the fly" [21:22] is that xubuntu? [21:22] otherwise i was thinking of debian ppc + e17 [21:23] the mini is cli, and lets you choose to install whatever you want at the end.... [21:23] lamp, ubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu, whatever....lots of choises [21:24] i just need to find where the #%^&#$%^ ppc iso's are [21:24] Hi all. [21:24] Hi [21:25] You are here too :-) [21:25] Good thing, anyway. [21:25] livingdaylight, it would appear that PPC is no longer supported.... [21:25] I wasx wondering what happens if I install a goodie from svn, source install over an xubuntu packeged version? [21:26] i can help ya get the older version, and you can apt-get update to the latest version [21:26] * cody-somerville is bugging them to get the PPC port building again. [21:26] Maximilian1st, why wouldn't you first uninstall the packaged version? :) [21:27] Yeah, why. I don't know, imagine the case where I would compile a new xfdesktop... [21:28] Maximilian1st, you mean you want to try Xfce 4.6 or something? Because it's been packaged for Xubuntu 8.10 [21:28] Why, I'll tell you. I'm affraid of loosing things. But in the end, There is no good reason for it. You're right. [21:28] Maximilian1st, all i can say is "tell us what happens...and make a back-up!" [21:28] ^.^ [21:28] :-) [21:28] Good point. [21:29] The thing is, I'm giving final touches to the French translation and have no idea what some otions are made for, I really need to look in the menus to be sure of what and how I should translate it., [21:30] Maximilian1st, is your /home on a seperate partition like all testing machine should?(IMO) [21:31] Oh wonderfull world.... No, sorry, I do backup important stuff though and can recover within an hour. I use a notebook, and that is all I have. [21:31] if so, in the event of a total disaster, you can re-intall without overwriting the /home partition [21:32] vidd: yes, that might do it [21:33] vidd: i did download ubuntu alternate from which i can install a basic cli install. From there i can install xubuntu-desktop for eg? [21:34] yes [21:34] but that is messy imo [21:34] Why? [21:34] xubuntu-desktop is a meta package, no? [21:35] meta? an empty package that triggers a lot of others? [21:35] vidd: i agree, but i'm not finding any easy alternatives [21:35] because you get the ubuntu splash, the god-awefull discusting color screme [21:35] vidd: not many distros have ppc iso [21:35] true [21:36] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/mini.iso [21:36] this gives MUCH better boot experience.... [21:36] and lets you install the desktop during install [21:36] and its TINY [21:37] kewl [21:37] THANK YOU vidd [21:37] no problem [21:37] vidd: "the desktop"? [21:37] xubuntu? [21:38] yes....xubuntu-desktop [21:38] that's already downloaded? [21:38] its at the very end of the install process [21:38] 12.8mb iso? [21:38] you have a list of all available meta-packages....you choose which (if any) you want to install [21:39] meta packages such as? [21:39] yes...i told you its tiny [21:39] that is really tiny. the ubuntu alternate i downloaded earlier is 600+mb's [21:39] LAMP....Xubuntu-desktop....DNS Server....etc [21:40] xubuntu-desktop is all i need i believe [21:40] its so small because all it has is what is needed to get your wired lan card working so you can connect to the internet [21:41] everything (and i mean EVERYTHING) else is downloaded off the internet [21:42] vidd: i read on one debian tutorial and what they told me in #debianppc also is that the oldworld macintoshes may require original MacOS cd's What is your experience? [21:45] Hi, someone speak french ? [21:45] Olivier66: ouip un peux mais je ne parle pas xubuntu :/ [21:45] Un petit peut :P [21:45] no problemo ici [21:46] Olivier66: alors, c'est quoi la question? [21:46] I don't know why the windows menu are so bigger in openoffice ? [21:47] Quel est le sens de la vie? [21:47] That is strange French you write... So bigger than... [21:47] mets ton gps max [21:48] pas compris le gag :-p [21:48] Ah, oui [21:48] c'est bon. Il est tard ici. [21:48] Pourquoi les fenêtre des menus son si énorme sous openoffice [21:48] comparé avec quoi? [21:49] les grandes fenetres c'est du bon Feng shui [21:49] toute les autres applications de l'environnement xubuntu [21:49] pour laisser entrer la lumiere [21:49] xD [21:49] that was a good one ^^ [21:50] le problême est qu'elles dépasse de mon écran [21:50] OpenOffice uses it's own methods of displaying everything, I suppose you can set the font size in its preferences [21:50] vidd: te encore la? [21:50] J'ai le même problème avec les paramètres de evolution, énorme fenêtre... [21:50] huh? [21:51] vidd:  vidd: i read on one debian tutorial and what they told me in #debianppc also is that the oldworld macintoshes may require original MacOS cd's What is yourexperinece? [21:52] max tu me comprends, c'est d'autant plus ennuyeux que je parviens difficilement à convertir ma femme de travailler avec [21:52] i avoid MACs like the plague [21:52] * vidd has never touched a MAC in his life [21:53] vidd: it's not mine. My friend next door has just inherited his son's old mac g3, who's given me the greeen light to go ahead and revive the old machine with a linux based distro as the old os9.1 is no longer supported and supportable in both sense of the word [21:53] Je comprends tout à fait. Il faut peut-être essayer de changer la taille de la police principale pour tout le système et sinon, chercher dans openoffice pour changer l'aaparence générale de la bête... [21:54] vidd: beautiful hardware though, common :) [21:55] from what I understand (through word of mouth only) is that you van download the software easily [21:55] dans les paramêtre OO rien de concluant je vais chercher un tuto pour réduire la police du system [21:55] Maximilian1st:  "Il faut peut-?tre essayer de changer la taille de la police principale..." <--- OMG? [21:55] and all this french is making my head hurt! [21:55] :P [21:55] I hope it's not difficult [21:56] And here I was thinking the French never speak English... [21:56] at least i think its french [21:56] vidd: well, that is what i'm hoping because they no longer have the mac os discs [21:56] does the MAC hav a burner? [21:57] vidd: dont' think so, why? [21:57] cuzz i think the reason you need the "old disks" is to get the PPC to recognize and read i386-burned disks' [21:58] this again is only speculation [21:58] ahhh... that's an intersting theory [21:58] and with that....i need to take my last break [21:58] be back in a few [21:59] ok Olivier66 , you should go in Outils>Option...>Affichage and change the icon size to small. [22:00] You could have found that yourself. [22:00] Olivier66, Does that solve your issue? [22:01] vidd, See how I bravely make an effort and only write English. You will feel better ;-p [22:02] was a joke, no offense meant. :-) [22:03] Merci max mais il ne s'agit pas des icones mais des dimentions trop grande des fenetres des menus de la barre d'outil [22:05] As-tu un exemple de menu trop grand que je puisse au moins voir cela ici? [22:07] simple, outil/options la fenêtre prend toute la largeur de l'ecran [22:08] * vinnl is going to try and boot into Intrepid now, later [22:08] Olivier66, quelle résolution d'écran sur cette machine? [22:10] Olivier66, j'ai du 1024 ici et le menu des options rempli presque toute la largeur en effet. [22:11] c'est par défaut dans les paramêtre d'affichage avec unique possibilité d'être en 800*600, j'ai un ibm thonkpad m40 [22:11] Mais il permet d'avoir du 1024 cet écran? [22:12] oui car avant avec xp c'était possible [22:14] * cody-somerville blinks. [22:14] Oh dieu, oh dieu. Le français envahit. [22:15] cody-somerville, stay cool folks... This user has a screen resolution problem. [22:16] :-] [22:16] c'est fini cody depuis Napoleon [22:16] cody-somerville, is gtk-display still used to change resolution? [22:17] It can be. [22:17] What is the Xubuntu way? [22:17] To use Applications > Settings > Display [22:17] gtk-config is defunct except for x-failsafe [22:17] Although I often use it (though it generally involves a lot of cursing). [22:18] you have an applications settings display menju? that is gnome you are talking about? Or is it me that has only xfce menu style. [22:18] xfce [22:18] Maximilian1st, its you [22:18] Max alors si chez toi avec du 1024 du as la même chose je ne vais pas chercher à compliquer [22:19] vidd, must be me :-) [22:19] all 8 of my xubuntu machines have that menu system =] [22:20] That is weird... Mine doesn't, only when I log in gnome do I have these menus. [22:20] gnome? or gdm? [22:20] Default is only Applications and Places menu [22:20] I mean it, gnome [22:21] We all use gdm, don't we? [22:21] Yes [22:21] well....i set a machine to load slim as the manager...but its very weak in the ram department [22:22] and dont count as one of my xubuntu machines [22:22] Merci de votre aide, good night everybody [22:22] Now, I remember I had to twinkle xorg.conf so my resolutions appear in display, the xfce display menu [22:22] Olivier66, good night. [22:23] did he say "thanks for the help"? (my french really is bad) [22:23] vidd, He's not gone yet... [22:24] by the way he still is stuck with his laptop showing only 800x600 [22:24] yeah...but hes not talking english much either [22:24] You can't blame him for that. [22:25] does he have "default" listed in his applications->settings->settings manager ... Display? [22:25] nvmd then [22:26] nvmd? [22:26] time for me to go home [22:26] nvmd = never mind [22:26] :-) [22:26] night all [22:26] Good way back home. [22:27] cody-somerville, Can I recreate this menu somehow? [22:29] yup [22:29] enlighten me [22:30] You just create an xml file that conforms to the f.d.o spec [22:30] I created a new panel on top, it has the places for now [22:30] oh, I misunderstand [22:30] Right click, add new item, xfce menu at the bottom of the list === Rakeer13 is now known as Rakeer [23:07] what is the default partition manager in x? [23:10] there is gparted on the live cd Rakeer - partitions have to be unmounted to change them and the live cd is easiest for that imo [23:11] favro: is there a way just to view current partition sizes/labels? [23:11] Id like to pass along the info, but I forgot which sizes I did for newwrold and swap [23:11] Rakeer: sudo fdisk -l should do the trick [23:11] ty, will try [23:12] odd, I get no output from that command [23:13] try df -h [23:14] sudo fdisk -l should work tho... [23:15] hhm, gives me some info, but not very specific.. [23:15] favro: I believe you, however it just returns to a prompt when I run it, no output, nothing [23:17] Hey guys, could someone help me out with screenlets. [23:18] I've got it installed. When I start it up, it keeps asking to create a autostart dir. When I click yes, it put the dor on my desktop [23:18] I don't want the folder sitting there though. [23:18] I tried to create a dir in my home folder, but it says there is already one there. [23:19] RYknow: starting it from terminal? [23:22] RYknow: afaik there is a hidden folder in your home folder called .config - in there is a Aotostart folder - move the desktop folder into there maybe [23:22] *Autostart [23:23] I'll try that. [23:24] I tried to copy/paste the folder from my desktop, just to my home folder, and it wouldn't let me do that. [23:25] I copy/pasted to folder to the auto start in .config. [23:26] After restarting screenlets, it's still asking me if I want it to create an autostart. [23:26] I'm not starting screenlets from the terminal. [23:26] It's if I go Applications - Settings - Screenlets [23:29] RYknow: can you open a terminal and enter in it cd ~/.config/Autostart [23:30] RYknow: then type in screenlets and hit enter [23:32] When i cd to Autostart. If I just type screenlets, it says "command not found? [23:32] I'm still pretty new to linux. So bare with me please. heh. [23:34] Hey man. I gotta run to the store. Hopefully you'll still be here when I get back. I'd like to get this resolved if I can tonight. [23:34] bbiab. [23:47] RYknow: there should be a folder in .config called Screenlets - if there isn't you need to make one apparently [23:49] RYknow: and the command is screenlets-manager