* NCommander stretches out01:04
vorianhowdy folks!01:11
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I think the kdesudo patch is causing problems with the Time & Dates module, al la bug 26731103:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267311 in kdebase-workspace "Date & Time freezes when changing time zone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26731103:29
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: actually it's probably just the kdesudo not quitting issue03:36
JontheEchidnaor whatever process systemsettings spawns not quitting03:37
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: For future reference, patch won't completely remove a file, it just leaves it empty, so if you want a file deleted, it's best to mention that to the sponsor.04:04
ScottK-laptopHeya bddebian: Congratulations on getting to the end of NM.04:16
bddebianScottK-laptop: Thanks man04:17
* ScottK-laptop notes that the Debian people think you run yourself down too much too.04:17
bddebianYeah, yeah, I saw that :)04:19
* ScottK-laptop wonders when you'll get the message.04:20
bddebianLikely never unfortunately04:21
ScottK-laptopMan kdelibs takes a long time to build.04:44
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: I'll probably upload kdelibs tomorrow.  Out of energy for today and it's still building.04:44
supertonesfor digikam to work in intrepid i had to install libqt4-sql-sqlite04:49
ScottKsupertones: They guy that's doing digikam would be sleeping this time of day, so please file a bug so it doesn't get lost.04:51
NCommanderWho broke kdelibs?04:56
NCommanderbddebian, Nice job on NM :-)04:57
bddebianNCommander: Thx04:58
ScottK-laptopNCommander: Which kdelibs?05:01
ScottK-laptopNCommander: If it's kdelibs for KDE3 in Intrepid, I'm test building the fix now.05:02
NCommanderScottK, yeah, that one05:03
ScottK-laptopapachelogger was blaming Riddell, but I didn't do my own autopsy.  Just testing the fix.05:04
* NCommander mutters something about test building fixes05:06
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smarterRiddell: do you think we could get libfacile-ocaml-dev(src package facile) in main?11:14
smarterRiddell: it's needed for Kalzium's equation solver which is one of the most important feature of Kalzium11:15
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JontheEchidnaRiddell: can I have sponsorship for bug 266994?13:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 266994 in kdegraphics "kolourpaint problem while upgrading" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26699413:42
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jjesse_good morning15:24
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: where are the changes in okular/generators/spectre/rc_okular_ghostview.cpp from?15:52
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: no clue, actually15:52
* JontheEchidna didn't do anything15:52
apacheloggervery strange IMHO15:53
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: diff.gz sez:15:56
JontheEchidna+//i18n: tag string15:56
JontheEchidna+//i18n: file conf/gssettingswidget.ui line 2815:56
JontheEchidna+i18n("General Settings");15:56
JontheEchidna+//i18n: tag string15:56
JontheEchidna+//i18n: file conf/gssettingswidget.ui line 3715:56
JontheEchidna+i18n("&Use platform fonts");15:56
JontheEchidna+//i18n: tag string15:56
JontheEchidna+//i18n: file conf/gssettingswidget.ui line 2815:56
JontheEchidna+i18n("General Settings");15:56
JontheEchidna+//i18n: tag string15:56
JontheEchidna+//i18n: file conf/gssettingswi15:56
* JontheEchidna wonders where/how that snuck in15:57
* ScottK-laptop will render a general observation that we've had too many careless errors recently.15:59
HobbseeScottK-laptop: welcome to the new land of MOTU?16:00
Hobbseeactually, kde's always been less than optimal, w.r.t. that.16:01
Hobbseeit's probably just that those who could upload to fix their stuff, did so.16:01
Hobbseeand never mentioned it16:02
ScottKCould be.16:03
apacheloggerhow am I supposed to write an MIR if the wiki isn't working in Konqueror?!16:03
ScottKapachelogger: Use Firefox of course like everyone who isn't using Chrome.  I did file a bug on that.16:04
jussi01JontheEchidna: did you note my blog post?16:04
apacheloggerI refuse to install firefox16:04
apacheloggerKonqueror is default browser on Kubuntu16:04
apacheloggerScottK: got the bug number at hand?16:05
jussi01apachelogger: we need more people like that - so that it might get fixed16:05
* ScottK looks16:05
jussi01apachelogger: btw, do you know how to make konqi display items as it loads them, instead of waiting till everything is there then displaying?16:06
apacheloggerjussi01: nope, might be a KHTML limitation, I suggest taking a look at bugs.kde.org16:06
ScottKapachelogger: Bug 25943616:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 259436 in ubuntu-website "Wiki login not persistent with Konqueror" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25943616:06
apacheloggerScottK: thank you16:06
ScottKapachelogger: It's related to the new openID stuff.16:07
apacheloggerI guess it should be reverted until it is fixed.16:07
ScottKI spoke to infinity about it on #canonical-sysadmin and he said he'd have someone look into it, but that they were on vacation.16:09
ScottKThat was a while ago, so revisiting it would be good.16:09
* ScottK fires a shot in that direction.16:12
JontheEchidnajussi01: the lancelot one?16:17
jussi01JontheEchidna: yeah :)16:18
apacheloggerScottK: Do I have to list all dependencies in the MIR, or can I just mention that they are all in main anyway?16:19
ScottKIf they're all in Main, it's probably fine just to say so.16:20
JontheEchidnaYeah, it's fine to say that.16:20
JontheEchidnaOr at least, worked for me ;-)16:21
JontheEchidnaHere's where the changes in okular/generators/spectre/rc_okular_ghostview.cpp came from: changes in okular/generators/spectre/rc_okular_ghostview.cpp16:24
apacheloggerDoes anyone know where the GNU tracks it's bugs?16:41
goatsocksapachelogger: savannah i think16:43
apacheloggerhm, not for dirmngr16:44
goatsocksmaybe it's at the nongnu then16:44
apacheloggerwell, I can't find a BTS for dirmngr16:45
* apachelogger is wondering if that also applies to Ƥgypten216:46
apacheloggerinteresting content anyway16:46
ScottKapachelogger: It's the same upstream BTS as for pinentry (don't recall what), so look at that MIR.16:47
ScottKNote: pinentry, not pinentry-qt4.16:47
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apacheloggerScottK: that is the one from above16:49
apacheloggerand that doesn't look very active/moderated/useable16:49
ScottKThat's about all there is.16:49
* apachelogger states there is no known one16:49
ScottKThese programs (e.g. pinentry, dirmgr) are pretty mature/complete.16:49
apacheloggerScottK: debian bug 45956716:52
ubottuDebian bug 459567 in dirmngr "dirmngr segfaults on hppa architecture" [Grave,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/45956716:52
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: Built here, so I think it's not our problem.16:53
ScottK-laptopI'd mention it, but say it's not applicable to us.16:53
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: The current on in Sid built, but it's also a new upstream release.16:55
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: Perhaps we ought to look into a sync.16:56
apacheloggerScottK: actually the report is not about building16:56
ScottK-laptopYes and the current on in Sid built on hppa.16:57
ScottK-laptopSo the bug appears OBE to me.16:57
ScottK-laptopThe version we have built OK too: http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?&pkg=dirmngr&ver=1.0.1-3&arch=hppa&stamp=1203334145&file=log16:59
apacheloggerScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/44238/17:13
* apachelogger is getting something to drink17:13
ScottKapachelogger: Rationale is the only thing I would change.17:14
ScottKHow about:17:14
ScottK* Dependency of kleopatra which is seeded on the Kubuntu DvD.17:15
apacheloggerScottK: changed. I'll file a bug later on17:49
apachelogger"# The GUI was converted from Qt3 to Qt4 with many visual improvements "17:50
apacheloggerVbox2.0 ftw!17:50
* Mandraky give apachelogger a cooky17:51
ryanakcaapachelogger: ping, /query ?18:03
Artemis_Fowlseele: PING18:16
Artemis_Fowlseele: I mean ping18:16
apacheloggerArtemis_Fowl: hey. can we do anything about bug 191844 ?18:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 191844 in qgrubeditor "QGrubEditor changes the UUID of /root partition if there's an external /boot partition" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19184418:19
Artemis_Fowlapachelogger: probably18:23
apacheloggeroh, btw, I guess we should switch to kdewebkit once it is useable18:42
apacheloggerwe probably would be pretty compatible with all of google ;-)18:42
Artemis_Fowluhm, I have to go...18:47
a|wenScottK: were you able to confirm if the possible fix added to bug 261840 indeed fixes your system tray issues? ... if it did, then throw a comment on the bug and I'll finish a debdiff for it19:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261840 in ubuntu "Please pocket copy KDE 3.5.10 from hardy-backports to hardy-updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26184019:26
smarterapachelogger: hey20:38
smarterapachelogger: webkitkde is pretty usable already ;) (even if it's certainly not ready to be the default)20:39
apacheloggersmarter: go to kubuntu.org20:48
apachelogger...argumentation done :P20:48
apacheloggerthat code is pretty playgroundish alright20:57
* apachelogger starts fixing it up20:57
apacheloggersmarter: svn doesn't behave any better21:07
apacheloggerand the context menu leaks bookmark integration21:07
smarterthe context menu only has a reload action here :p21:09
apacheloggersomehow I had more options before21:10
apacheloggerwell, currently it fits playground quite well21:10
apacheloggerScottK: bug 23819521:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 238195 in dirmngr "couldn't remove package via synaptic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23819521:12
apacheloggerdoesn't happen on intrepid apparently21:12
* smarter thinks he'll be able to release Kvkbd 0.6 soon :)21:13
seelewhat is the Zion color scheme?  is that the current default color?21:14
smartercurrent default is Oxygen I think21:15
seelewhat does Zion look like, i dont have it installed21:18
apacheloggerdarkish I think21:18
apacheloggeractually pretty brightish ;-)21:19
seelethe oxygen documentation says it is light colored21:19
seeleit looks like what is labelled as Default is zion21:19
seeleand what is labeled as Obsidian Coast is Zion Reversed21:20
apacheloggerthat colour scheme is awful21:20
apacheloggerseele: reversed is super dark instead of super bright21:20
seeleit's the black theme21:20
seelebut Oxygen isn't the default, it is darker than Default21:20
apacheloggerseele: on kubuntu?21:21
apacheloggerthe default scheme is a brighter oxygen I think21:21
seeleyes, and I think it is Zion even though it is mislabeled21:21
apacheloggerit is inspired by zion, but not zion21:21
apacheloggerzion looks horrible21:21
seeleoh wow that is way too light21:22
seelethat would wash out on a lot of LCDs and on projectors21:22
seeleok, so the Intrepid TODO item is null and void?21:23
apacheloggerScottK: bug 26755521:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267555 in dirmngr "Main Inclusion Report for dirmngr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26755521:25
ScottKapachelogger: The body of the report goes on the wiki.  The bug just links to it.  Looks good, though, just move it to the wiki.21:40
apacheloggerScottK: Can't do, wiki is broken.21:41
ScottKRight.  So I'd mention that in the bug report.21:42
apacheloggerScottK: initial line :)21:42
ScottKWe'll see then.21:42
* apachelogger continues with the report for qca2-pluign-ossl21:43
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apacheloggerScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/44332/ if you could take a look please.21:55

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