[01:04]  * NCommander stretches out
[01:11] <vorian> howdy folks!
[03:29] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I think the kdesudo patch is causing problems with the Time & Dates module, al la bug 267311
[03:36] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: actually it's probably just the kdesudo not quitting issue
[03:37] <JontheEchidna> or whatever process systemsettings spawns not quitting
[04:04] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: For future reference, patch won't completely remove a file, it just leaves it empty, so if you want a file deleted, it's best to mention that to the sponsor.
[04:16] <ScottK-laptop> Heya bddebian: Congratulations on getting to the end of NM.
[04:17] <bddebian> ScottK-laptop: Thanks man
[04:17]  * ScottK-laptop notes that the Debian people think you run yourself down too much too.
[04:19] <bddebian> Yeah, yeah, I saw that :)
[04:20]  * ScottK-laptop wonders when you'll get the message.
[04:21] <bddebian> Likely never unfortunately
[04:44] <ScottK-laptop> Man kdelibs takes a long time to build.
[04:44] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: I'll probably upload kdelibs tomorrow.  Out of energy for today and it's still building.
[04:49] <supertones> for digikam to work in intrepid i had to install libqt4-sql-sqlite
[04:51] <ScottK> supertones: They guy that's doing digikam would be sleeping this time of day, so please file a bug so it doesn't get lost.
[04:56] <NCommander> Who broke kdelibs?
[04:57] <NCommander> Oh
[04:57] <NCommander> bddebian, Nice job on NM :-)
[04:58] <bddebian> NCommander: Thx
[05:01] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: Which kdelibs?
[05:02] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: If it's kdelibs for KDE3 in Intrepid, I'm test building the fix now.
[05:03] <NCommander> ScottK, yeah, that one
[05:04] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger was blaming Riddell, but I didn't do my own autopsy.  Just testing the fix.
[05:06]  * NCommander mutters something about test building fixes
[11:14] <smarter> Riddell: do you think we could get libfacile-ocaml-dev(src package facile) in main?
[11:15] <smarter> Riddell: it's needed for Kalzium's equation solver which is one of the most important feature of Kalzium
[13:42] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: can I have sponsorship for bug 266994?
[15:24] <jjesse_> good morning
[15:52] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: where are the changes in okular/generators/spectre/rc_okular_ghostview.cpp from?
[15:52] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: no clue, actually
[15:52]  * JontheEchidna didn't do anything
[15:53] <apachelogger> very strange IMHO
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: diff.gz sez:
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> +//i18n: tag string
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> +//i18n: file conf/gssettingswidget.ui line 28
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> +i18n("General Settings");
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> +//i18n: tag string
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> +//i18n: file conf/gssettingswidget.ui line 37
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> +i18n("&Use platform fonts");
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> +//i18n: tag string
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> +//i18n: file conf/gssettingswidget.ui line 28
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> +i18n("General Settings");
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> +//i18n: tag string
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> +//i18n: file conf/gssettingswi
[15:57]  * JontheEchidna wonders where/how that snuck in
[15:59]  * ScottK-laptop will render a general observation that we've had too many careless errors recently.
[16:00] <Hobbsee> ScottK-laptop: welcome to the new land of MOTU?
[16:01] <Hobbsee> actually, kde's always been less than optimal, w.r.t. that.
[16:01] <Hobbsee> it's probably just that those who could upload to fix their stuff, did so.
[16:02] <Hobbsee> and never mentioned it
[16:03] <ScottK> Could be.
[16:03] <apachelogger> ha!
[16:03] <apachelogger> how am I supposed to write an MIR if the wiki isn't working in Konqueror?!
[16:04] <ScottK> apachelogger: Use Firefox of course like everyone who isn't using Chrome.  I did file a bug on that.
[16:04] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: did you note my blog post?
[16:04] <apachelogger> I refuse to install firefox
[16:04] <apachelogger> Konqueror is default browser on Kubuntu
[16:04] <jussi01> hehe
[16:05] <apachelogger> ScottK: got the bug number at hand?
[16:05] <jussi01> apachelogger: we need more people like that - so that it might get fixed
[16:05]  * ScottK looks
[16:06] <jussi01> apachelogger: btw, do you know how to make konqi display items as it loads them, instead of waiting till everything is there then displaying?
[16:06] <apachelogger> jussi01: nope, might be a KHTML limitation, I suggest taking a look at bugs.kde.org
[16:06] <ScottK> apachelogger: Bug 259436
[16:06] <apachelogger> ScottK: thank you
[16:07] <ScottK> apachelogger: It's related to the new openID stuff.
[16:07] <apachelogger> I guess it should be reverted until it is fixed.
[16:09] <ScottK> I spoke to infinity about it on #canonical-sysadmin and he said he'd have someone look into it, but that they were on vacation.
[16:09] <ScottK> That was a while ago, so revisiting it would be good.
[16:12]  * ScottK fires a shot in that direction.
[16:17] <JontheEchidna> jussi01: the lancelot one?
[16:18] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: yeah :)
[16:19] <apachelogger> ScottK: Do I have to list all dependencies in the MIR, or can I just mention that they are all in main anyway?
[16:20] <ScottK> If they're all in Main, it's probably fine just to say so.
[16:20] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, it's fine to say that.
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> Or at least, worked for me ;-)
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> Here's where the changes in okular/generators/spectre/rc_okular_ghostview.cpp came from: changes in okular/generators/spectre/rc_okular_ghostview.cpp
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> oops
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17220480/kdegraphics_4%3A4.1.0-0ubuntu2_4%3A4.1.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[16:41] <apachelogger> Does anyone know where the GNU tracks it's bugs?
[16:43] <goatsocks> apachelogger: savannah i think
[16:44] <goatsocks> http://savannah.gnu.org/
[16:44] <apachelogger> hm, not for dirmngr
[16:44] <goatsocks> maybe it's at the nongnu then
[16:45] <goatsocks> http://savannah.nongnu.org/
[16:45] <apachelogger> http://www.gnupg.org/aegypten2/index.html
[16:45] <apachelogger> neato
[16:45] <apachelogger> well, I can't find a BTS for dirmngr
[16:46] <apachelogger> http://intevation.de/roundup/aegypten/
[16:46]  * apachelogger is wondering if that also applies to ägypten2
[16:46] <apachelogger> interesting content anyway
[16:47] <ScottK> apachelogger: It's the same upstream BTS as for pinentry (don't recall what), so look at that MIR.
[16:47] <ScottK> Note: pinentry, not pinentry-qt4.
[16:49] <apachelogger> ScottK: that is the one from above
[16:49] <ScottK> OK.
[16:49] <apachelogger> and that doesn't look very active/moderated/useable
[16:49] <ScottK> That's about all there is.
[16:49]  * apachelogger states there is no known one
[16:49] <ScottK> These programs (e.g. pinentry, dirmgr) are pretty mature/complete.
[16:52] <apachelogger> ScottK: debian bug 459567
[16:53] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: Built here, so I think it's not our problem.
[16:53] <ScottK-laptop> I'd mention it, but say it's not applicable to us.
[16:53] <apachelogger> ok
[16:55] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: The current on in Sid built, but it's also a new upstream release.
[16:56] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: Perhaps we ought to look into a sync.
[16:56] <apachelogger> ScottK: actually the report is not about building
[16:57] <ScottK-laptop> Yes and the current on in Sid built on hppa.
[16:57] <ScottK-laptop> http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/package.php?p=dirmngr
[16:57] <ScottK-laptop> So the bug appears OBE to me.
[16:59] <apachelogger> Ok.
[16:59] <ScottK-laptop> The version we have built OK too: http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?&pkg=dirmngr&ver=1.0.1-3&arch=hppa&stamp=1203334145&file=log
[17:13] <apachelogger> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/44238/
[17:13]  * apachelogger is getting something to drink
[17:14] <ScottK> apachelogger: Rationale is the only thing I would change.
[17:14] <ScottK> How about:
[17:15] <ScottK> * Dependency of kleopatra which is seeded on the Kubuntu DvD.
[17:49] <apachelogger> ScottK: changed. I'll file a bug later on
[17:50] <apachelogger> "# The GUI was converted from Qt3 to Qt4 with many visual improvements "
[17:50] <apachelogger> Vbox2.0 ftw!
[17:51]  * Mandraky give apachelogger a cooky
[18:03] <ryanakca> apachelogger: ping, /query ?
[18:16] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: PING
[18:16] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: I mean ping
[18:19] <apachelogger> Artemis_Fowl: hey. can we do anything about bug 191844 ?
[18:23] <Artemis_Fowl> apachelogger: probably
[18:42] <apachelogger> oh, btw, I guess we should switch to kdewebkit once it is useable
[18:42] <apachelogger> we probably would be pretty compatible with all of google ;-)
[18:47] <Artemis_Fowl> uhm, I have to go...
[19:26] <a|wen> ScottK: were you able to confirm if the possible fix added to bug 261840 indeed fixes your system tray issues? ... if it did, then throw a comment on the bug and I'll finish a debdiff for it
[20:38] <smarter> apachelogger: hey
[20:39] <smarter> apachelogger: webkitkde is pretty usable already ;) (even if it's certainly not ready to be the default)
[20:48] <apachelogger> smarter: go to kubuntu.org
[20:48] <apachelogger> ...argumentation done :P
[20:48] <smarter> ouch
[20:49] <apachelogger> exactly
[20:56] <apachelogger> woah
[20:57] <apachelogger> that code is pretty playgroundish alright
[20:57]  * apachelogger starts fixing it up
[21:07] <apachelogger> smarter: svn doesn't behave any better
[21:07] <apachelogger> and the context menu leaks bookmark integration
[21:09] <smarter> the context menu only has a reload action here :p
[21:10] <apachelogger> hm
[21:10] <apachelogger> somehow I had more options before
[21:10] <apachelogger> well, currently it fits playground quite well
[21:11] <apachelogger> ScottK: bug 238195
[21:12] <apachelogger> doesn't happen on intrepid apparently
[21:13]  * smarter thinks he'll be able to release Kvkbd 0.6 soon :)
[21:14] <seele> what is the Zion color scheme?  is that the current default color?
[21:15] <smarter> current default is Oxygen I think
[21:18] <seele> what does Zion look like, i dont have it installed
[21:18] <apachelogger> darkish I think
[21:19] <apachelogger> no
[21:19] <apachelogger> actually pretty brightish ;-)
[21:19] <seele> the oxygen documentation says it is light colored
[21:19] <seele> it looks like what is labelled as Default is zion
[21:19] <apachelogger> ewww
[21:20] <seele> and what is labeled as Obsidian Coast is Zion Reversed
[21:20] <apachelogger> that colour scheme is awful
[21:20] <seele> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Oxygen/ColorSchemes#Zion
[21:20] <apachelogger> seele: reversed is super dark instead of super bright
[21:20] <seele> yes
[21:20] <seele> it's the black theme
[21:20] <seele> but Oxygen isn't the default, it is darker than Default
[21:21] <apachelogger> seele: on kubuntu?
[21:21] <seele> yes
[21:21] <apachelogger> the default scheme is a brighter oxygen I think
[21:21] <seele> yes, and I think it is Zion even though it is mislabeled
[21:21] <apachelogger> no
[21:21] <apachelogger> it is inspired by zion, but not zion
[21:21] <apachelogger> zion looks horrible
[21:22] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot092.png
[21:22] <seele> oh wow that is way too light
[21:22] <apachelogger> *nod*
[21:22] <seele> that would wash out on a lot of LCDs and on projectors
[21:23] <seele> ok, so the Intrepid TODO item is null and void?
[21:25] <apachelogger> ScottK: bug 267555
[21:40] <ScottK> apachelogger: The body of the report goes on the wiki.  The bug just links to it.  Looks good, though, just move it to the wiki.
[21:41] <apachelogger> ScottK: Can't do, wiki is broken.
[21:42] <ScottK> Right.  So I'd mention that in the bug report.
[21:42] <apachelogger> ScottK: initial line :)
[21:42] <ScottK> Right.
[21:42] <ScottK> We'll see then.
[21:43]  * apachelogger continues with the report for qca2-pluign-ossl
[21:55] <apachelogger> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/44332/ if you could take a look please.