[00:19] How do I manually set touchpad speed / sensitivity in Xorg.conf? ( right now I have to go across the touchad 16 times to move the cursor from one side of the screen to the other ) [00:43] Jordan_U, this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5730399 [00:45] x1250: My problem is with the speed of the cursor, not with the sensitivity to tapping [00:51] Jordan_U, synaptics manual claims to cover "Movement with adjustable, non-linear acceleration and speed." [01:01] am trying to install kde from an alpha1 install.. is that cool? [01:02] 285 files .. [01:03] i'll never try that stunt again.. it took close to an hour to install alpha1 [01:07] gx009: Alpha 1? Why are you doing that? [01:08] i still had that one in my stash .. and it still worked.. [01:10] gx009: But it will probably be more downloading to get current than if you had just grabbed alpha 5 [01:11] truth is i wanted kde but the DL links were bad .. so i thought i could use the alpha1 disc and and then install kde .. [01:12] You certainly can, yes. [01:12] but you are right.. if i wouldve DL alpha 5 i wouldve saved a lot of time [01:40] my default settings changed to 800x600 [01:41] and monitor type changed to generic from LG700E, and graphic card chaged to vesa compliant from i810 ,,what to do [01:41] ???? [01:43] anybody hav any idea, I am on intrepid!!! [01:45] this problem is not new and was corrected in gutsy and hardy by configuring xorg properly , but this time it's not doing it, some problem with resolution , during logon it dumps me to low resolution mode [01:45] did ya upgrade to intrepid or clean instlal it? [01:45] upgrade [01:45] yesterday [01:46] i'd certainly start with a totally plain xorg.conf since that file isn't used anymore [01:46] except to load binary drivers [01:46] actually 27 hrs to be precise [01:47] it worked fine for and i rebooted 3 or 4 times with no problem , [01:47] so you are suggesting clean install [01:47] no. i am suggesting running the command to replace xorg.conf with a default version [01:48] how to do it [01:48] i always configure via displayconfigure-gtk [01:48] sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [01:48] I am not into development very much [01:49] shut the system down and flea power it before you reboot [01:49] xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration [01:49] file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080907061929 [01:50] so i think it is done [01:51] flea power it before you reboot?? what this mean , what is flea [01:51] drain all power from the baord by unplugging the power cord and holding in the power switch for 30 seconds [01:52] Ok , trying will report back soon , thanks for helping out [02:12] i wonder, has a package of django 1.0 been made yet. [02:13] there's a python-django in here [02:13] Could someone help me figure out why my CD drive isn't recognized under 8.10? [02:13] because it's alpha software? === avis- is now known as avis [02:45] bsnider has left the room but thanks, my system recovered from that error, thanks a lot!! [02:55] i know this is kind of stupid, but running kubuntu intrepid. and i can't figure out how to change the clock from 24hr to am/pm anyone have any ideas? [02:58] shadowhywind: systemsettings -> region and language -> time [03:03] can we run virtualbox on intrepid, i am having kernel issues and i think it may not be solved [03:04] is intrepid new theme a early April Fools joke? [03:04] vinu76jsr: Yes, I suggest you grab version 2.0 from their site though [03:05] emet i think is true, ubuntu will come with a new theme [03:06] or.. are u saying that new theme is horrible? [03:06] EagleSn, it looks terrible [03:06] okay [03:06] i havent seen it, i use kubuntu [03:06] emet: RIght now it's pretty much the same as Hardy, what are you looking at? [03:06] any capture please? [03:06] http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Ubuntu-8-10-Alpha-5-Screenshot-Tour-9.jpg [03:07] emet: Oh, that window decoration is a bug, you don't see it if you use compiz BTW [03:09] oh [03:09] is the planned new theme still secret? [03:10] emet: Not so much secret so much as so far non existent :) [03:11] is it something that takes months to make? [03:11] I am not sure what's involved [03:11] emet: In case you are curious, what Intrepid looks like on my box ( default settings ) : http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/screenshot.png [03:13] jordan_u downloading version 2.0 [03:14] they hav no version available for intrepid [03:15] only upto gutsy is available [03:15] vinu76jsr: The Hardy version works for me [03:15] Jordan_U, are you trogdoor from digg? [03:15] emet: Yea [03:15] cool [03:15] I like that theme === EagleSn is now known as EagleScreen [03:25] gnome-screenshot closed unexpectedly, and ubuntu login sound played , intrepid is weird [03:27] Jordan_U : it works, thanks [03:27] vinu76jsr: np [03:34] xvm crashed while savin machine state of the virtual machine created by version 1.6 [03:34] Qt WARNING: QThread: Destroyed while thread is still running [03:34] Segmentation fault (core dumped) [03:34] but never mind , it still worked [03:40] hay all having a bit of a problem.. my ssh when i add the portnumber at the end i get Name or service not known [04:01] shadowhywind, what syntax are you using? [04:03] I burned the new version but I can't get the cd to boot , I hear the confirmation tones like it loaded but no display, even tried safe graphics mode no dice. Any thoughts [04:12] How's the stability in Intrepid, right now? I'm considering upgrading to help with debugging, but I don't want to if it'll just kill my system [04:13] x1250 sorry fot the delay, I am using ssh 192.168.2.89 -p#### [04:13] x1250: if i do ssh-p#### 192.168.2.86 i get bad port '#### 192.168.2.86' [04:26] actraully when i use ssh 192.168.2.86 -p#### i now get coonect to host 192.168.2.86 -p#### port 22:connection refused [04:48] hay all having a pit of a problem with ssh, i do ssh 192.168.2.78 -p#### i get ssh:connect to host 192.168.2.78 -p#### port 22: connection refused [04:52] anyone notice that the folders in 'Places' has strange GNOME icon instead of Human icon? [04:53] yup [04:53] i would presume that's a known bug [04:57] yaeh, its been veryyyyyyyyyy long time [04:57] it must be fix [05:14] is there any way I can change my kde3 themes? === voidmage-away is now known as voidmage [05:14] in intrepid? [05:18] closest way I found to do it was to revert main to hardy, install kcontrol, then change back to intrepid [07:10] is there any good reason why I shouldn't have /usr/include/stddef.h with build-essential installed? [07:30] lost my connection there, does anyone know what I must install to get these headers? [08:15] woot, i just got alpha5 working in virtualbox [09:16] great, evince in intrepid seems to work for most pdfs finally [11:00] EXA stops working on ATI R500 since the last xorg-driver-radeon update [11:01] you need to return back to XAA or everything on Xorg is very slow [11:04] and i find on my xorg log "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)" [11:05] pepie34; i've got r500 and same problem. how do i revert to xaa? [11:05] on the device section of /etc/X11/xorg.con [11:06] replace [11:06] Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" [11:06] by [11:06] Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" [11:06] but i found something else [11:06] the nvidia thing [11:07] i've nvidia-* package installed that i never asked for [11:07] can you look at it also ? [11:07] I uninstalled it [11:07] should I fix xaa first? [11:08] yes try XAA, you will get normal speed on Xorg but with no glx extension [11:08] I try right now t uninstall the nvidia thing and reload my X server [11:08] see you in few minutes [11:08] brb, need to restart X [11:08] bye [11:16] ok I think i found it [11:16] without this nvidia packaged i vere asked for uinstalled [11:16] everything is fine [11:16] even on EXA [11:16] ... [11:19] taggie [11:19] pepie34: (II) RADEON(0): XAA Render acceleration unsupported on Radeon 9500/9700 and newer. Please use EXA instead. [11:20] can you look at nvidia* packages installed [11:20] but, later in xorg log, i get: (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) [11:20] and remove them then go back to EXA accelleration [11:20] i'll try, one second. [11:21] first, do you have nvidia* packages installed [11:21] ? [11:22] yes, lots of nvidia* [11:23] if i remove, synaptic wants to remove linux-restricted-modules [11:23] i assume a reboot is in order? [11:24] brb [11:28] pepie34; no change [11:30] are you still in xAA [11:30] can you put EXA on the xorg.conf file [11:30] is there a definitive way to check quickly? [11:31] cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EXA [11:31] or [11:31] cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep XAA [11:33] (==) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture [11:33] (II) RADEON(0): XAA Render acceleration unsupported on Radeon 9500/9700 and newer. Please use EXA instead. [11:33] (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) [11:33] sorry, don't know the pastebin rules, what is the line limit for pastes? [11:33] OK so edit the device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf [11:33] i'll put XAA in [11:34] and change Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" [11:34] to [11:34] Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" [11:34] then relauch Xorg [11:34] one sec [11:34] I don't what is the pastebin limit, [11:34] I'm not admin here [11:35] Ok talks in the wind ------->[] [11:35] glxinfo still core dumps, but EXA is running [11:36] and what about general speed impression [11:36] much better. [11:36] firefox is a critical apps can you run it and see how munch xorg consume spu [11:38] while restoring 4 tabs, 70% cpu, when idle, <1% [11:38] yeah, looks pretty normal [11:39] what happen when you drag down a page [11:40] fluid, fast. no issue. [11:40] firefox takes 30-45% cpu [11:40] no so cool [11:41] ? [11:41] but at east it seems better for you [11:41] yes, this is much better. still no glx, but faster 2d [11:41] i can't do more for you [11:41] thanks [11:44] I think the new "Eject" button in Nautilus is great, I just don't want it on my hard drives. Does anyone know a way to disable it, or if there's a bug report for this? [11:44] I'm having a hard time thinking up search queries for this. [11:54] the latest intrepid kernel won't boot my computer -- it doesn't appear to be loading the correct modules in the initrd stage, and it can't find the hard drive [11:55] also, not with interpid and with hardy, my eth0 device shows a very strange number of dropped packets: RX packets:178 errors:0 dropped:1867048994 (this is about 3 minutes after bootup) [11:56] not just with intrepid* [11:56] the dropped packet number seems to go up by a few hundred million a second [12:05] hello howcome intrepid changed kernel? [12:10] can anyone confirm intrepid has changed kernel? [12:11] now intrepid has the 2.6.27-2-generic [12:11] yes, there was an update to the 2.6.27-2-generic kernel [12:12] don't know why the version number wasn't bumped, havent read the changelog [12:12] I've update it a week ago [12:12] *updated [12:38] hi thunderbird wont start up on my machine, it says: t-bird is already running, but is not responding... any ideas? [12:39] chronographer: type "sudo killall -9 thunderbird [12:40] thunderbird: no process killed [12:40] and I get the same message [12:40] sorry... i don't know [12:41] k [12:41] thanks [12:41] Have you tried ps -x ? [12:41] ps -x | grep thunderbird [12:42] then you should just kill all the pids showing up. Thunderbird comes up 3 times in my ps -x list. [12:42] that command didn't work for me... 'Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'?' [12:43] but I am not running thunderbird ... I am sure of it. maybe i will apt-get purge it and try again/ [12:43] Hold on [12:43] You did type a | and not a / right? [12:43] I copy pasted [12:44] Just try a "ps -x" then [12:44] And manually look for a mention of thunderbird [12:44] then you just need to kill the number in front of it [12:44] not there [12:45] killall thunderbird [12:45] thunderbird: no process killed [12:45] Yes, but that won't work, because thunderbird doesn't run under that name [12:46] well its not running, i can pastebin it to prove it if you like... its a bogus error message. [12:47] Try killall /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin [12:47] That killed it on my machine [12:47] If that doesn't work... well, I have no idea really :P [12:47] Sorry [12:48] I am trying to purge it, got "/usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin: No such file or directory [12:48] " [12:48] How strange [12:50] you know what... it was because I used an old ~/.mozilla-thunderbird folder... [12:50] maybe I had copied it over when t-bird was running? [12:51] I honestly don't know, in my entire ubuntu career, thunderbird has never ever acted up. [12:51] Can't say the same for firefox, though :P [12:52] me too, I have used this same folder since I was on debian with thunderbird! now it bloody wont start! [12:52] yeah, the chrome idea of separate processes for tabs would fix near al of my firefox freezes though! [12:55] Hmm, I hope that doesn't happen to me in the future! [12:56] That's the only idea I really liked about chrome, the seperate processes :) [12:58] I have a problem with getting glx working on an Intel chip but I see a rather odd message in Xorg.0.log: Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) [13:00] not quite sure why it assumes I have an nvidia [13:03] Shall I just report it as a bug? I would like to help fix the problem, just not sure where to start with this one. [13:10] glx is nvidia afaik [13:11] what graphics card do you have? [13:11] he said intel [13:12] I dont have intrepid, but I updated to kernel 2.6.27rc5 and I am having problems with getting my graphics driver to work, can someone help me with this or is this the wrong channel? [13:13] chronographer: er yea, intel :) [13:15] try another kernel maybe, perhaps 2.6.27-1-generic which is what I use and which works fine [13:15] JontheEchidna: oh yeah... why would you want glx working? [13:15] it is specifically nvidia right? [13:16] yes [13:16] but that's the problem [13:16] well, glx normally works ok with intel [13:16] ok as it can be anyway [13:16] not nvidia-glx-* ?? [13:17] glx gears or someting like that? [13:17] this is a notebook, n nvidia chips here :) [13:17] glxinfo segfaults [13:17] I get a bunch of Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display.. [13:17] then it segfaults [13:19] hi [13:19] but I think the problem is xorg is not initialising glx because I do not have an nvidia. [13:30] MrKennie [13:30] I missed the nvidia-glx-* thing, there was one package installed and removing it fixed the problem. [13:31] I don"t know why but i get a lot of nvidia-* package installed [13:31] and I'm an idiot because I restarted X without noting down what package it was [13:31] removing it resolve my problem [13:32] yea, I'm not sure why anything nvidia is installed in the first place. [13:33] there was a linux-restricted update [13:33] a few days ago [13:33] ... [13:33] is there a reason restricted drivers are all part of one package? [13:34] wondered that for a while. [13:34] the probleme is that normally resticted-manager installed needed package [13:35] i don't know why nvidia has been installed on my radeon computer ... [13:36] is there anyone using ath9k driver for atheros ? [13:36] not working sin,ce friday [13:59] Hello [14:09] was just checking of upgrading was no longer strongly discouraged... obviously it still it [15:22] I'm having a very strange problem where some websites don't load at all [15:23] they work on other computers, but not mine, regardless of browser (konq, FF, or links) [15:24] it will just say "waiting for planetkde.org" forever [15:25] DNS problems? [15:27] EagleSn: if I try to ping the server it will look up the IP address fine and recieve responses [15:27] but trying to do anything fails [15:28] and it's not just HTTP; trying to use the SVN from svn.kde.org also fails [15:39] is there a mailinglist that this would be appropriate for? === hdevalence is now known as hdevalence|away [15:50] last night I ran a scan with clamTK and it found 3 viruses on my system. Quarantine does not have anything in it.How do I clean/remove these viruses and how do I know they are gone? [15:51] rm -rf ? [15:59] Hobbsee: the problem is I don't see what files are infected [16:00] ah. then i don't know. [16:35] I have to problems with pidgin: (1) I can't use the invisible status, it disconnects with a "read error", and (2) adding friends seems to only save them locally, so every time you restart pidgin it will say there is a difference between your local list and the remote server list, and if you would like to add your friends. I just want to through pidgin in the trash. [16:44] x1250: what chat-protocol? [16:45] MSN [16:45] Ampelbein, I use only MSN, so I don't know if any other === emma_ is now known as emma [16:49] x1250: there could be a problem with your profile. try renaming the .pidgin-folder in your home, then reconfigure msn and try again. if that does not solve it, please file a bug on launchpad. [16:49] for a few days ath9k stops working [16:49] i get authentification time out [16:50] Ampelbein, musictracker was responsible for the "read error" when using invisible status. Disabling it makes invisible status usable again. [16:50] (ath9k ----> driver for new atheros wifi chipset) [16:51] x1250: then please file a bug about musictracker-plugin on launchpad. (in pidgin) then we can send to developers to have them fix the problem. [16:52] yes [17:03] Hi. I'm having big problems getting nvidia and ibex5 working. Now I'm at 800x600 and unable to enable the extra desktop effect [17:04] jakobbg, are you sure you've got the nvidia driver instlaled? [17:05] bsnider: gui says so, and have installed this: http://jakobbg.pastebin.com/m6167befa [17:06] what do you mean gui says so? [17:07] bsnider: I used "Hardware drivers" and enabled it. And they say "In use" there. [17:07] yeah, last i saw jockey's broken so i wouldn't bet on that horse [17:08] open up your xorg.conf file in gedit [17:08] /etc/X11/xorg.conf [17:08] I vim it, but yes :) [17:08] pastebin its contents please [17:09] bsnider: http://jakobbg.pastebin.com/m2ffc34a0 [17:10] i had to add the vendorname line under the driver line [17:10] to get mine to load [17:11] VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" [17:11] put that int he device section under the driver [17:11] huh. ok [17:11] just insert that and restart x? [17:12] restart x with ctrl+alt+backspace [17:12] yes. 2seconds [17:12] yeah, do it young man [17:13] hm. no change. [17:13] which card do you have? [17:14] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] (rev a1) [17:14] Dell D820 [17:15] has the nvidia driver worked before, like on hardy? [17:15] oh yes. very nice, even :) [17:15] good [17:15] you've got the right one installed, the 177 driver [17:16] i tried the two others as well, but no change in appearance. [17:16] v173 and ... an old one [17:16] alright, here's what i'll do. i'll pastebin my xoprg.conf, and you can just copy-paste it into yours, k? [17:16] sounds nice [17:17] just installed alpha5, nothing to lose :) [17:17] http://jakobbg.pastebin.com/m24e82129 [17:18] *trying* [17:22] bsnider: no :-( [17:22] try starting nvidia-settings [17:22] is there an error message? [17:23] bsnider: "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server." [17:23] alright, reinstall nvidia-glx-177 [17:23] 'aight [17:23] then reboot, don't just restart x [17:23] ack [17:24] just that package? [17:24] that package will also ask for the kernel-source package [17:24] those are the two that you need [17:24] kernel-source are already installed [17:24] reinstall that one too [17:24] ok [17:26] I assume you referred to nvidia-headers, not source [17:26] nvidia-177-kernel-source [17:27] ah [17:27] that has to be there to build the module into the linux kernel [17:27] *rebooting after reinstall* [17:31] bsnider: install error: http://jakobbg.pastebin.com/d1fa3b7f7 [17:33] ok just a sec [17:34] have you got linux-headers installed? [17:35] pro'lly not. let's see [17:36] linux-headers-2.6.27-2-generic [17:36] found it :) but thanks [17:36] retrying now [17:37] it wasn't installed? [17:40] it was not installed. [17:41] damn. still not building correctly. [17:41] but have now installed linux-headers-2.6.27-2 prior to install of nvidia-glx-177 [17:42] bsnider: same error as last pastebin about "nvidia in the DKMS tree" [17:44] bsnider: full output of "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177": http://jakobbg.pastebin.com/d508b8801 [17:44] got to run, but feel free to give me suggestions :) [17:47] hi all, does somebody know of a certain utility by which one can know which packages are installed in the system [17:48] please don't say synaptic, its a listing of packages which are not in the base CD [17:50] shirish: synaptic can filter to show only packages that are installed to the system, it may still show packages that are not in the cd though if you have such packages installed [18:02] jakobbg, do you have a /lib/modules/2.6.27-2-generic/build directory? [18:03] Hello, i have windows and ubuntu dual boot on grub and now i want to install IntrepidIbex alpha via wubi will that be recognised by grub automagically? === hdevalence|away is now known as hdevalence [18:20] which mailing list is appropriate for strange issues with Intrepid? [18:25] I'm having a problem where I can't connect to some websites [18:31] cd /var/log [18:31] ls [18:31] err. [18:31] disregard that. [18:57] :) [19:08] bsnider asked me whether I had a /lib/modules/2.6.27-2-generic/build folder - what should I do when I don't have one - to actually have one? I have problems getting the nvidia-driver installed properly. [19:18] Hi [19:44] odel name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5150 @ 2.66GHz [19:58] using intrepid, and I realised my /var/log directory was taking like 50 gigs [19:58] ! [19:58] so I deleted it and now I don't know why [19:58] irony [20:00] !info deluge-torrent [20:00] deluge-torrent (source: deluge-torrent): A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.9.3-1 (intrepid), package size 2074 kB, installed size 5872 kB [20:00] !info deluge-torrent hardy [20:00] deluge-torrent (source: deluge-torrent): A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.8.9-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2329 kB, installed size 6572 kB [20:03] i like deluge [20:03] i like ktorrent [20:04] deluge is light, works well, has good encryption features [20:10] i guess deluge is working on a 1.0 [20:13] is apt-get source supposed to work on the live CD? [20:13] i get a "dpkg-source" not installed error [20:13] I seriously doubt it would work [20:17] it does once you install dpkg-dev [20:57] Hi, I've been bitten by bug 254840 any workarounds? [20:57] Launchpad bug 254840 in xorg-server "[intrepid] mouse and keyboard stop working under gdm and gnome" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/254840 [20:58] anybody with problems in dell 1530? [20:59] nacho: I've got the Inspiron 1501, no significant problems on Ibex [20:59] alex_mayorga, I had to add i8082.mutex=1 or something like that to not having it crazy [21:00] but now it is really slow [21:00] with an usb mouse it works perfect [21:02] how do I get my keyboardmouse back on GDM? [21:42] hiho, i try out 8.10 a5 and after fixing a symbolic link problem with ifupdown, i doesn't get the connection in the outer space ;) i can ping and surf on my local server but everything else doesn't work [21:42] any ideas? [21:46] hi folks -- can someone please suggest a good piece of VPN Software that is a) easy to configure, b) has good cookbook docs for me to set it up on my hardy gateway, and c) would allow me to vpn in from either windows or linux? [21:54] oh nuts -- sorry folks -- wrong chan [21:55] can I reset ubuntu to remove all packages that are not default ? [21:55] cause I want to start again, but not format ... :) [21:56] Hiya guys. Any major installer flaws I should know about? About to install the latest Alpha for testing. [22:27] crappy fglrx made my install go crazy :( [22:27] gdm doesn't work anymore now :( [22:33] ok gdm back :x [22:33] now fix next prob :p [22:44] any id why I have green lines when I playback a movie [22:44] [ 366.146609] mythfrontend.re[9223]: segfault at 20 ip 00007fb2205efde4 sp 00000000450cb368 error 4 in libGL.so.1.2[7fb2205a9000+72000] [22:45] and that mythtv is crashing with [22:53] which is the right mailinglist for problems with 8.10? [22:56] launchpad? [23:07] pwnguin: the problem is that I have no idea what package is responsible [23:25] and it even occurred on a clean install so I am really puzzled [23:29] <_Zeus_> what occured? [23:31] _Zeus_: I'm having a strange problem where certain web servers are inaccessible from my computer, but when I tried it on a different computer which connects through the same router/modem it worked, and it still had the problem when I did a clean install [23:31] <_Zeus_> some websites work and some don't? [23:34] _Zeus_: yes [23:34] it's strange [23:34] <_Zeus_> hm [23:34] <_Zeus_> how even is the spread? [23:34] <_Zeus_> is it about 50-50 [23:34] <_Zeus_> ? [23:34] the timeout is for recieving a response, and it's only a few that I know of [23:34] <_Zeus_> hum [23:35] planetkde.org, svn.kde.org, and kdedevelopers.org, though there might be other ones; those are just the ones I noticed [23:37] <_Zeus_> there, uh, seems to be a pattern :P [23:37] <_Zeus_> maybe GNOME is having her period [23:38] _Zeus_: on the other hand those are site which I visit often [23:38] hdevalence: so you use kubuntu? [23:39] yeah [23:39] <_Zeus_> ohhhhh [23:39] however there is no #kubuntu+1 afaik [23:39] hdevalence: is it possible that you're using ff3 on one computer but not the other? [23:40] heh [23:40] _Zeus_: bad joke, btw [23:40] <_Zeus_> i thought he was using gnome [23:40] <_Zeus_> at least planetkde.org and svn.kde.org seem to be registered to the same person [23:41] <_Zeus_> i exceeded my lookup amount on kdedevelopers.org [23:41] svn.kde.org has a website? [23:41] pwnguin: no [23:41] pwnguin: SVN fails [23:41] it fails for me too [23:41] perhaps... it's just down? [23:42] pwnguin: it works fine for other people, and the problem's been there for several days [23:42] dns borkage [23:42] <_Zeus_> planetkde works fine for me [23:42] Myrtti: wouldn't two computers on the same home network then have the same DNS borkage? [23:42] <_Zeus_> can you ping them? [23:43] i can ping svn.kde but ff cant get to it [23:43] pwnguin: it doesn't have a website [23:43] ah [23:43] actually it does [23:43] oh [23:43] try https [23:43] nvm then [23:44] it just has an invalid cert [23:44] pwnguin: I can't use subversion with svn.kde.org [23:44] pwnguin: and for my svn checkout I use svn+ssh:// rather than https:// because it's faster and easier [23:44] <_Zeus_> can you ping the other ones? [23:44] they ping fine [23:44] <_Zeus_> hmm [23:45] <_Zeus_> try removeing your firefox folder [23:45] <_Zeus_> ~/.mozilla [23:45] <_Zeus_> or rename it [23:45] or [23:45] make a new user [23:45] for testing purposes [23:45] deleting your profile isn't fun [23:45] but how does that change the fact that it happened right after a clean install? [23:46] oh - if this is like clean clean install [23:46] maybe it is dns borkage [23:46] <_Zeus_> you could try reconfiguring dns [23:46] <_Zeus_> try running dhclient3 [23:46] alright [23:46] computers do sometimes (quite often actually) cache dns entries to fasten up connection phase [23:47] but anyways [23:47] it's too late for me to be awake and up - I do need my beauty sleep [23:47] running dhclient3 doesn't seem to have helped [23:47] tatah, kids [23:47] <_Zeus_> try opera? [23:47] <_Zeus_> tata [23:50] _Zeus_: I've already tried with FF, Konq, and links [23:50] <_Zeus_> you mean lynx i take it. ouch [23:50] there is a links [23:50] <_Zeus_> oh [23:50] links > lynx IMO [23:51] <_Zeus_> is links also console? [23:51] yes [23:51] links is similar to lynx [23:51] if they're all the same [23:51] _Zeus_: but it has nice menus and stuff [23:51] <_Zeus_> ah [23:51] <_Zeus_> i'll have to try it out [23:51] then what IP does your system resolve planetkde.org to? [23:51] and what does traceroute say about it? [23:52] <_Zeus_> hdevalence: try pasting 67.18.167.98 into FF [23:52] _Zeus_: that's what it resolves to [23:52] <_Zeus_> what resolves to? [23:52] <_Zeus_> yes i know. what happens? [23:53] it opens [23:53] but not to planetkde [23:53] <_Zeus_> to what? [23:53] heh [23:54] _Zeus_: to a page which links to other pages.. "There are lots of things on Capricorn. Perhaps you are looking for one of these things:" [23:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/44358/ [23:54] and planetkde is not listed [23:54] <_Zeus_> whoa [23:54] <_Zeus_> ew i get that too [23:54] <_Zeus_> boy [23:55] im guessing planetkde is a redirect to a higher port [23:55] and somewhere a firewall is blocking it? [23:55] hmm [23:55] this wont be solved without wireshark [23:55] strange that it would suddenly stop working though [23:55] not if they transparently moved servers [23:57] any Id why my avi's are full of green bars when I play them ? [23:57] ATI card by any chance? [23:57] YEP :( [23:58] pwnguin: my tracroute is not the same as yours [23:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/44360/