| superspuck | Can someone help me out with this: http://pastebin.ca/1196001 ? wiki is a bit confusing, I'm trying to use a ladspa plugin, trying to figure out what the right syntax is for my .asoundrc | 00:33 |
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| stuff_happens | can anyone here help me with broadcom driver issues? | 01:31 |
| Rakeer | hey guys, can someone tell me how to install java jre2 v5/6? I need it for compiling, but I'm having trouble finding the pkg's/pkg name.. | 01:51 |
| favro | !java | 01:52 |
| ubottu | To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository | 01:52 |
| Rakeer | ok I found sun-java6-jre but is that jre2? | 01:59 |
| favro | !info sun-java6-jre | 02:00 |
| ubottu | sun-java6-jre (source: sun-java6): Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-06-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 6185 kB, installed size 14188 kB | 02:00 |
| Rakeer | favro, I am following this guide to compile gnashhttp://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/manual/gnashref.html#build | 02:02 |
| Rakeer | oops, http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/manual/gnashref.html#build | 02:03 |
| Rakeer | says I need JRE2, cant find it on sun, cant find the pkg..I found this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java but wrong pkg names, and NOWHERE do I get a clear answer to what are the pkg names for jre2 v5/6 in ubuntu | 02:04 |
| favro | I just googled jre2 and am having a read | 02:05 |
| Rakeer | i found a note on javachannel.net for ubuntu but the pkg names are wrong | 02:06 |
| cody-somerville | yes it is | 02:09 |
| cody-somerville | err, sorta | 02:09 |
| cody-somerville | jre2 actually refers to version 5 of Java | 02:09 |
| cody-somerville | Just install xubuntu-restricted-extras :P | 02:10 |
| Rakeer | http://javachannel.net/wiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JavaOnUbuntu | 02:10 |
| solotim | hello group, is there anyone use empathy on xu? | 02:17 |
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| Rakeer | cody-somerville: the whole thing? :P | 02:26 |
| cody-somerville | sure :-] | 02:27 |
| Rakeer | ... | 02:27 |
| cody-somerville | solotim, I don't. | 02:27 |
| cody-somerville | Rakeer, It has lots of other goodies you probably want anyhow | 02:27 |
| Rakeer | You have been invited to #stupiditypwns by Spencerical (kubrick.freenode.net) | 02:29 |
| Rakeer | wtf is that crap, this is a help channel | 02:29 |
| tjb | hi everyone. i have a p3 700mhz box with 256mb ram. you think it's powerful enough to run ubuntu server with virtualbox and run xubuntu as a web server as a virtualbox guest os? or would i be pushing the hardware a bit much? | 02:38 |
| tjb | i like the idea of taking snapshots of the guest os and restoring it if i do somethign stupid. | 02:38 |
| cody-somerville | Rakeer, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras | 02:46 |
| Rakeer | E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-restricted-extras | 02:47 |
| cody-somerville | Can you pastebin apt-cache policy? | 02:48 |
| Rakeer | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/44085/ | 02:50 |
| cody-somerville | It was introduced in 7.10 | 02:52 |
| cody-somerville | You're using Feisty. There has been two releases since Feisty and we're preparing for a third this October. | 02:53 |
| Rakeer | indeed. Im on a ps3. :P | 02:53 |
| cody-somerville | Rakeer, You can upgrade to Hardy | 03:09 |
| Rakeer | yes, I can...and I will no longer enjoy the very nice level of ubuntu experienc eon a PS3 I am getting.. | 03:12 |
| Rakeer | have already gone that route and went back....intrepid is supposed to be much nicer | 03:12 |
| Rakeer | though I havent personally had time to experiment with the kernel.. | 03:12 |
| Rakeer | everything I am doing here is to produce a .deb for all the ps3'ers to install and get full flash support in firefox | 03:13 |
| cody-somerville | What needs to be done to do that? | 03:15 |
| Rakeer | ffmpeg compiled then added to gnash source, reconf and compile | 03:18 |
| cody-somerville | You can't distribute that though, can you? | 03:22 |
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| Rakeer | I have to learn to do it so I can write a complete 'noob' tutorial for others to follow on just how to compile it... | 03:24 |
| Rakeer | becuase no, in the u.s. at least, I can't distribute it | 03:24 |
| Rakeer | but I have seen those sorts of things pop up on torrents...not that I would have anything to do with that in this country | 03:25 |
| nbl | howdy | 03:25 |
| cody-somerville | Rakeer, Well, download the source code | 03:28 |
| cody-somerville | It is probably a compile time option | 03:28 |
| Rakeer | well, I'm being told I don't need it, since it use is for making doc's | 03:29 |
| cody-somerville | hmm? | 03:29 |
| Rakeer | and I don't /need/ to compile the doc's | 03:29 |
| Rakeer | I'm following the gnash guide, and it doesn't make too much room to tell you what you really need/don't need in reality.. | 03:31 |
| cody-somerville | Once again | 03:35 |
| cody-somerville | Thats probably just a compile time option | 03:36 |
| nbl | is there a better powermanagment tool, I'm on a desktop but i would like have better controll of the hdd power | 03:52 |
| nbl | my bios is conflicting with something, so i had to set them always on in the bios | 03:52 |
| xdaniel | nbl: this link may be helpful -- seems like some other people were asking the same thing: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=387346 | 03:54 |
| nbl | so use laptop-mode-tools? i heard of it before but it seems odd since im on a desktop | 04:00 |
| xdaniel | nbl: really not sure... but its worth a try | 04:01 |
| nbl | "laptop mode tools will automatically start when your laptop goes into battery mode." | 04:01 |
| nbl | wont work | 04:02 |
| nbl | but this may hdparm | 04:02 |
| xdaniel | nbl: bummer... maybe something else in that thread may help, but that's beyond my knowledge | 04:02 |
| TMN__ | is there a way to configure shortcut for minimizing current window? | 04:19 |
| nbl | is there a way to get a Network places like there is in ubuntu, in xubuntu | 04:36 |
| cody-somerville | We're working on that for Intrepid | 04:37 |
| nbl | is it in the alpha release now? | 04:38 |
| cody-somerville | Not that feature, no | 04:39 |
| cody-somerville | It might not make Intrepid unfortunately | 04:39 |
| cody-somerville | I have my fingers crossed | 04:40 |
| nbl | why would it not? it should just for ease of use. | 04:42 |
| cody-somerville | nbl, It isn't that I don't want to give you every feature you might want with a useful feature to boot | 04:45 |
| cody-somerville | s/feature/interface | 04:46 |
| cody-somerville | However, I've yet to test the work being done | 04:46 |
| cody-somerville | Feature freeze has passed and the work on it isn't even done yet | 04:46 |
| nbl | oh, since xubuntu should be light weight, no need to have | 04:46 |
| cody-somerville | no, it has nothing to do with that | 04:46 |
| cody-somerville | It has to do with it being stable and ready enough for me to include it. People would rather not have the feature than have a buggy operating system they can't use. | 04:47 |
| cody-somerville | let alone the code actually being done :P | 04:47 |
| nbl | i'm trying to do mount a shared folder, and i get a cifs retern error -22 | 05:19 |
| nbl | any clue what that is? | 05:19 |
| nbl | smbfs need | 05:39 |
| Dabbu | i am not able to access network places in xubuntu | 05:44 |
| Dabbu | ? | 05:45 |
| Dabbu | any help | 05:45 |
| Dabbu | what | 05:45 |
| Dabbu | any man here | 05:46 |
| Dabbu | !network | 05:47 |
| ubottu | Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 05:47 |
| Dabbu | !networkplaces | 05:47 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about networkplaces | 05:47 |
| Dabbu | !network places | 05:48 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about network places | 05:48 |
| j00bacca | what is the name of the tool that monitors the battery status in the system tray so i can remove it | 06:06 |
| j00bacca | and also how can you hide the wireless status in the system tray | 06:07 |
| anom01y | hi | 06:17 |
| anom01y | currently I am running kde, and I was wondering if I could install xfce and run it instead of kde, but have the ability to pick what I wanted to use | 06:18 |
| nbl | yes | 06:29 |
| midnightRmbler | hello | 06:29 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| blakeX | sup yo | 08:14 |
| blakeX | this ya boy blake | 08:14 |
| blakeX | IRC is so foolish | 08:17 |
| favro | pot calling the kettle black methinks :) | 08:25 |
| blakeX | no, not really | 08:32 |
| blakeX | i'm not a chat protocol | 08:32 |
| blakeX | more like the water in the kettle calling the kettle black | 08:32 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| === blakeX is now known as tuna-fish | ||
| Definitely | Hello, i just installed Xubuntu, anyone can explain me how to add one more langugage to keyboard tool ? | 09:15 |
| tuna-fish | lol | 09:33 |
| Definitely | hmm ? | 09:36 |
| === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche | ||
| Definitely | How to change theme in Xubuntu ? | 10:50 |
| JinKazama | Definitely: Settings -> Settings Manager -> User Interface | 11:06 |
| Definitely | aaa ok i found now ;] | 11:07 |
| Definitely | jinKazama: Hmm after i add files which i need into .themes and .icons probably i need to log out and log in ? | 11:07 |
| Definitely | brb relogining | 11:09 |
| ed | When I launch nautilus from inside XFCE, my wallpaper changes and XFCE doesn't seem to be managing the desktop anymore. | 11:53 |
| ed | I wonder why that is. | 11:53 |
| Myrtti | why do you launch nautilus then ;-) | 12:02 |
| ed | Because I'm conditioned to. | 12:09 |
| ed | It has become my instinct to type 'sudo nautilus' when I need to do file management at root. | 12:10 |
| ed | I have gone totally, utterly and absolutely bonkers mad. | 12:10 |
| Myrtti | a) do not use sudo with a graphical application | 12:10 |
| ed | ah yes | 12:11 |
| ed | gksudo | 12:11 |
| Myrtti | b) gksudo mousepad .bashrc; alias nautilus='thunar` | 12:11 |
| ed | ah good idea | 12:11 |
| Myrtti | :-) | 12:11 |
| ed | So that'll only affect how bash does things, not how Gnome will, right? | 12:13 |
| Myrtti | yup | 12:13 |
| ed | Goodie. | 12:13 |
| ed | This is a quiet channel, isn't it? What sort of popularity do Xubuntu and Kubuntu have compared to Ubuntu? Because it's only a DE change... | 13:09 |
| pleia2 | ed: I can't speak to actualy popularity numbers, but typically support questions are not xubuntu specific (ie - not about xfce) so people are able to use the more general support forums for help | 13:15 |
| ed | I see. | 13:16 |
| ed | Yeah, that' sane I guess. | 13:16 |
| Myrtti | I personally always wonder why people are asking questions about printing or such in here :-) for me xubuntu, ubuntu and kubuntu are all just buntu's with a different colour frosting :-P | 13:17 |
| Ben_Cs | hello | 13:18 |
| Myrtti | and actually I do like xubuntu the best, even when I use Gnome on my desktop computer | 13:18 |
| vinnl | Hi | 13:18 |
| Myrtti | Ben_Cs: hello | 13:18 |
| Ben_Cs | how can i login in xfce through terminal? (login inside login) | 13:19 |
| vinnl | Ben_Cs, you mean as another user? | 13:19 |
| Ben_Cs | or myself? | 13:19 |
| vinnl | Ben_Cs, when you open a terminal window it's ran as yourself by default | 13:19 |
| xindo | i restarted my laptop, now my taskbar/menubar is missing, anyone have any ideas? | 13:21 |
| vinnl | xindo, press Alt+F2 then run "xfce4-panel" | 13:21 |
| xindo | vinnl: that did it, thank you | 13:22 |
| xindo | any idea why it might have done this? | 13:22 |
| vinnl | Nope, happens a lot unfortunately :( | 13:22 |
| xindo | well thanks again for the fix | 13:22 |
| vinnl | My pleasure ;) | 13:23 |
| Ben_Cs | vinnl: no. if something requires me to logout and login to test it (ie: a command) instead of alt+ctrl +F4 , i want to be able to login again inside the current shell | 13:23 |
| vinnl | Ben_Cs, perhaps "su <username>" will do the trick | 13:24 |
| Ben_Cs | vinnl: nope | 13:25 |
| vinnl | Or first using su to change to another user and then using it to change back? | 13:25 |
| Ben_Cs | vinnl: i'm the only user | 13:26 |
| Qigong | Anyone have trouble getting xfce to know it has a wired connection to the net? | 13:26 |
| vinnl | Ben_Cs, hmm, perhaps create another user? I'm sorry, I'm not at home in shell scripting | 13:26 |
| Ben_Cs | vinnl: no way to open a new shell inside current one, and login? | 13:27 |
| vinnl | Qigong, that's been the easiest thing I've found in Xubuntu :P | 13:27 |
| Qigong | odd.. I only have 2 options, wireless and ppp | 13:27 |
| vinnl | Ben_Cs, perhaps "screen" or something, but I'm really to much of a noob in that area | 13:27 |
| vinnl | Qigong, if you right-click the icon, have you enabled wired connections? | 13:27 |
| Qigong | yes | 13:28 |
| vinnl | Hmm... | 13:28 |
| Ben_Cs | vinnl: i see. thanks anyway. i've started learning shell scripting recently :) | 13:28 |
| vinnl | :) | 13:28 |
| xindo | Qigong: does "ifconfig" return any info on eth0? | 13:28 |
| Qigong | bash.. ftw ;) | 13:28 |
| Qigong | looking, I'm sure it did last night | 13:28 |
| Qigong | sec.. I only have 'Enable Networking on th eright click and it's checked | 13:29 |
| vinnl | Ah, yes, I've got the same | 13:30 |
| vinnl | Are you sure the cable is plugged in correctly? ;-) | 13:30 |
| Qigong | yes, it worked great with kubuntu. I see no eth0, just ath0 | 13:31 |
| xindo | Qigong: can you go to manual config? | 13:32 |
| Qigong | not sure where.. I have Network settings up, but only show Wireless connection and p2p | 13:34 |
| xindo | left click on the network connect icon, choose manual configuration | 13:34 |
| Qigong | yes, there.. it brings up the same, Network Settings.. then just the wireles and p2p is listed. | 13:35 |
| xindo | hmmm.... | 13:36 |
| Qigong | I've not found anything that allows me to setup or look at eth0.. I assumed it was all automatic. | 13:38 |
| vinnl | It's supposed to be, yes | 13:39 |
| Qigong | it's almost like no eth0 stuff was loaded on install(?) I just added the network monitor applet to a panel and eth0 isn't recognized. | 13:43 |
| xindo | Qigong: run lspci and see if it has your ethernet card | 13:44 |
| Qigong | ok | 13:45 |
| Qigong | ethernet controller: Atheros Co.m | 13:46 |
| Qigong | that's one of the limited, no support drivers | 13:47 |
| xindo | not an expert on these, but it may be a restricted driver, i know there is one for the wireless, but don't know about the wired cards | 13:49 |
| Qigong | ok, ty.. still digging. | 13:49 |
| xindo | for instance, ubuntu installed my nvidia restricted automatically, i had to install it on xubuntu myself tho | 13:49 |
| Qigong | Mmm, I see. ok | 13:51 |
| nbl | is there a simple way to test samba from linux to windows? | 14:06 |
| nbl | every time i try to mount the folder i time out | 14:07 |
| xindo | nbl: can you ping the machines from each other? | 14:13 |
| nbl | xindo yes, now how to i stop it! | 14:18 |
| nbl | ok, i was ping by ip, how to a ping by workgroup/computername | 14:25 |
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| nbl | any one? | 14:40 |
| vinnl | nbl, what? | 14:40 |
| nbl | i cant get samba working yet | 14:41 |
| nbl | every time i mount the windows dir. i time out | 14:41 |
| vinnl | Oh, sorry, can't help there :( | 14:41 |
| hallo0123 | do you have a german channel? | 14:53 |
| vinnl | !english | 14:53 |
| ubottu | The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat | 14:53 |
| nbl | i never had som much trouble setting up samba before with ubuntu | 14:54 |
| vinnl | ...and it's supposed to become easier with Xubuntu 8.10 | 14:54 |
| nbl | well i was talking with some one else and he not sure it will make it into that build | 14:55 |
| vinnl | True | 14:55 |
| vinnl | But I'm crossing my fingers :) | 14:55 |
| nbl | me-too | 14:56 |
| nbl | i installed ubuntu on two other computers in my mixed home network and it was easier to set up, then configuring two windows based machines | 14:57 |
| hallo0123 | okay... i have installed xubuntu.... booted my very slow laptop.... and started shutting it down... now i just can see the xubuntu screen.... | 14:57 |
| nbl | ok? | 14:57 |
| hallo0123 | why is nt my laptop completly shutting down? | 14:57 |
| hallo0123 | btw i had the same problem with opensuse | 14:58 |
| vinnl | hallo0123, what do you mean by "the Xubuntu screen"? You mean the progress bar with the Xubuntu logo above it? | 14:58 |
| hallo0123 | http://os-iso.de/images/xubuntu-7.04-2.jpg | 14:59 |
| nbl | on a side note i never see that, since my monitor does not like the refresh rate | 14:59 |
| vinnl | hallo0123, which version of Xubuntu are you using? 7.04? | 15:00 |
| vinnl | Right... If you press Ctrl+Alt+F1, do you get a screen full of text? (No need to pm message btw) | 15:02 |
| hallo0123 | nope i dont | 15:03 |
| vinnl | En what does the progress bar do? Is it full? | 15:04 |
| hallo0123 | no, it isnt... it is still at the beginning | 15:04 |
| hallo0123 | and there isnt anythink "moving" | 15:04 |
| vinnl | And how long have you waited for it to complete? | 15:05 |
| hallo0123 | häm... the screen has been approximatly 15 min... i dont know... quite a long while. but should be around the same time i came in the channel | 15:06 |
| vidd | hallo0123, im new to the troubleshooting so forgive if you already answered....how much ram? | 15:07 |
| hallo0123 | should be 256 | 15:07 |
| vidd | live cd install or alt? | 15:07 |
| hallo0123 | alternative | 15:08 |
| hallo0123 | downloaded a few day ago | 15:08 |
| vidd | which version? | 15:08 |
| hallo0123 | thats the file's name: xubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386 | 15:09 |
| vidd | 8.04, 7.10, 7.04, 6.06? | 15:09 |
| vidd | ok | 15:09 |
| vidd | and is this hang on reboot or install? | 15:09 |
| hallo0123 | whilst shutting down.... (and i had the same prob with open suse) | 15:09 |
| vidd | so install is complete, and you are trying to reboot? | 15:10 |
| hallo0123 | install was completed, and the laptop did boot. the system was ready to work... then i shutted down (tryed to). | 15:10 |
| vidd | so you had the system up once already | 15:11 |
| hallo0123 | yeah | 15:11 |
| vidd | kill power....and try to boot | 15:11 |
| hallo0123 | alright | 15:12 |
| vidd | on a laptop, pull the power cord and drop the battery | 15:12 |
| hallo0123 | too late... pushed the power button for a few sec | 15:12 |
| vidd | that *sould* work | 15:13 |
| vidd | provided of course that does not trigger "hybernate" via bios | 15:13 |
| vidd | is it booting now? | 15:13 |
| hallo0123 | yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss | 15:14 |
| vidd | so something in your shutdown scripts is hanky | 15:14 |
| hallo0123 | yeah... wicked... when i had suse on my laptop there was on the screen "not falid system" (something like that, just in german... | 15:15 |
| vidd | let me know when the system is up | 15:15 |
| Rev | hi | 15:15 |
| Rev | anyone knows how to browse the network with xubuntu? | 15:15 |
| vidd | Rev, samba | 15:15 |
| hallo0123 | someone that (form the german ubuntu channel) i should try to edit the menu.list in the /boot/grup directory | 15:15 |
| Rev | is that a software vidd? | 15:16 |
| hallo0123 | someone said^^ | 15:16 |
| vidd | rev yes | 15:16 |
| Rev | i thought it was kind of a protocol | 15:16 |
| Rev | apt-get install samba? | 15:16 |
| hallo0123 | i should take the splash out of there | 15:16 |
| vidd | rev dont know the specifics....i use ftp between my machines | 15:16 |
| nbl | rev same problem here | 15:17 |
| vidd | hallo0123, but the issue is shutting down...not booting up....right? | 15:17 |
| nbl | i thinking to use pyNeighborhood | 15:17 |
| hallo0123 | yeah.. my laptop is now read to work | 15:17 |
| Rev | vidd that doesnt work | 15:17 |
| Rev | i have it installed but cant launch oi | 15:17 |
| vinnl | nbl, Rev, try Googling for xubuntu and samba and variants, there are some posts that explain how to do it | 15:17 |
| Rev | nbl, crap :/ | 15:17 |
| vidd | Rev, you need an FTP server for it to work | 15:17 |
| Rev | i did | 15:17 |
| vinnl | *and variants on that | 15:17 |
| Rev | no | 15:17 |
| vinnl | I believe grumpymole's were supposed to be good | 15:18 |
| Rev | if its just a windows sharing folder, thats no ftp and that should work, shouldnt it? | 15:18 |
| hallo0123 | so... should i do that? | 15:18 |
| vinnl | Rev, it should with Samba | 15:18 |
| vidd | hallo0123, so what you want to do is check the log files to see what the last command running was befor this last boot-up | 15:18 |
| hallo0123 | where can i see the log? | 15:19 |
| vidd | hallo0123, grub editing is for start-up issues, not shut-down | 15:19 |
| vidd | i believe /var/log | 15:19 |
| vidd | let me check my system =] | 15:20 |
| hallo0123 | okay.. seems to be right | 15:20 |
| Rev | vidd, nbl we already have the smbclient installed on xubuntu | 15:21 |
| Rev | but we need something to "view" the shares | 15:21 |
| nbl | rev i tried this last night: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ComprehensiveSambaGuide | 15:21 |
| vidd | Rev, i cant help you with samba | 15:21 |
| vidd | i dont use it | 15:21 |
| nbl | you may have better luck then me | 15:21 |
| Rev | like in gnome "shortcuts" -> networks servers | 15:21 |
| vidd | i will never let my windows machines to access my linux boxes | 15:22 |
| nbl | rev xubuntu does not have it yet! they wish to get it in 8.10 but it is unlikly | 15:23 |
| Rev | thats retarded | 15:23 |
| nbl | this looks like to be a fix though, pyNeighbourhood | 15:23 |
| vidd | hallo0123, im no good at reading logs....i dont know which one is relavent | 15:23 |
| nbl | rev i would not complain, it is alot work these programers do to get ubuntu where it is today | 15:24 |
| vidd | Rev, if you want some gnome feature, add it! | 15:24 |
| vinnl | ...or pay people to add it :P | 15:24 |
| vinnl | ...or live without it and hope for the best :) | 15:24 |
| vinnl | (I usually do that :P) | 15:24 |
| vidd | vinnl, me too....ftp FTW | 15:25 |
| vinnl | One machine ftw :P | 15:25 |
| hallo0123 | okay... i try to find out, which one the the right log.... | 15:25 |
| nbl | the code and know how is out there, if you think you have a better idea, go with, and program | 15:25 |
| vinnl | nbl, that *is* a bit unreasonable | 15:25 |
| Rev | nbl, wait i could i have found something | 15:26 |
| Rev | lemme see | 15:26 |
| vidd | vinnl, i think hes saying get the program...not write it | 15:26 |
| vinnl | In "and program" I interpreted "program" as a verb | 15:26 |
| Rev | nbl, indeed, i browsed trhough a lot of forum posts in the ubuntu and french ubuntu forum | 15:27 |
| Rev | forums* | 15:28 |
| Rev | and pyneighnourhood seems to be the best one | 15:28 |
| Rev | i will give it a try | 15:28 |
| hallo0123 | i got a question... is xubuntu not completly translated? | 15:28 |
| hallo0123 | in german language? | 15:28 |
| vidd | vinnl, any idea what log file to look at to see what program is failing to terminate during shutown? | 15:28 |
| vinnl | hallo0123, probably not, no | 15:29 |
| vinnl | But I expect it is for the most part | 15:29 |
| vinnl | vidd, not by heart | 15:29 |
| vinnl | Wasn't dmesg | tail something that could help when it comes to stuff like this? | 15:29 |
| nbl | i meant to program it, but more likely adopt the the sources code that is already out there for ubuntu | 15:30 |
| vidd | probably (i havent had to troubleshoot this kind of stuff since 6.06!) | 15:30 |
| hallo0123 | can i help with translating... or at least for myself (if people think i am not doing well enough= | 15:30 |
| vidd | hallo0123, try dmesg | tail | 15:30 |
| vinnl | nbl, that's cool :) | 15:31 |
| vidd | see if that gives you any idea what might be locking your system on shutdown | 15:31 |
| vinnl | hallo0123, probably, the first step is to realize Xubuntu is made up of different applications which all can be translated individually | 15:31 |
| vinnl | hallo0123, then check which applications haven't been fully translated and contact the application's developers to see if you can help in translating | 15:31 |
| vinnl | (I did the same for Xfce in Dutch) | 15:31 |
| Rev | nbl i found something else | 15:32 |
| Rev | want to know? | 15:32 |
| nbl | rev http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131 | 15:32 |
| nbl | yes | 15:32 |
| Rev | nbl, aparently we can install fuse and fusesmb | 15:32 |
| Rev | that will "mount" the network in a network folder in Home that we could browse trhough thunar | 15:33 |
| nbl | you got a link? | 15:33 |
| Rev | ah | 15:33 |
| Rev | u found it already | 15:33 |
| Rev | you understand frenc? | 15:33 |
| Rev | french* | 15:33 |
| nbl | no | 15:34 |
| hallo0123 | no | 15:35 |
| nbl | rev i got to get going, if you find anything interesting pm it to me (if you dont mind) | 15:35 |
| Rev | nbl, no problem, i will | 15:36 |
| hallo0123 | i found something | 15:37 |
| hallo0123 | unfortunately it is in german... so... but the solution should be (so someone says): xfce-setting-show session | 15:38 |
| vinnl | That only allows you to configure Xfce's settings management I'd assume | 15:39 |
| hallo0123 | mom... i am trying to translate | 15:39 |
| hallo0123 | had the same problem after updating. my solution | 15:39 |
| hallo0123 | [quote]xfce-setting-show session [/quote] | 15:40 |
| superspuck | can anyone help me get 5.0 analog audio output? All I get is some weird 4.0-stereo, tried with this .asoundrc: http://pastebin.ca/1196441 but it didn't affect the sound at all. default and surroundXX don't get me any sound at all so I have to set default:CARD=AV200 in my media player to get any sound at all. | 15:40 |
| ^paradox^ | when playing videos in totem media player i only get video, no sound. whats going on? | 15:40 |
| hallo0123 | "logout setting" set / not set a tick. then is works fine for me | 15:40 |
| vinnl | !sound | 15:40 |
| ubottu | If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 | 15:40 |
| ron_o | is it possible to use ddrescue to a directory on my partition /home rather than to another partition? | 15:41 |
| vinnl | hallo0123, you could try that, you can also reach it from the Settings Manager, then "Sessions and Startup" :P | 15:41 |
| hallo0123 | after booting change it if need be again | 15:41 |
| hallo0123 | but which setting | 15:43 |
| vinnl | hallo0123, "Automatically saave session on logout" | 15:44 |
| vinnl | (I suppose) | 15:44 |
| ^paradox^ | ubottu: where is the volume control in xubuntu? | 15:44 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, ubottu is a bot | 15:45 |
| vinnl | Not a human :) | 15:45 |
| ^paradox^ | lol ok | 15:45 |
| hallo0123 | alright, i m gonna try | 15:45 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, but you can add a plugin to the panel for volume control | 15:45 |
| vinnl | Oh, but those instructions are for Ubuntu btw | 15:45 |
| vidd | ^paradox^, you need to add it to the panel (which ever one you want) | 15:45 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, the links are what's important | 15:45 |
| hallo0123 | hm... still the same event happening :-( | 15:45 |
| ^paradox^ | well im just trying to figure out why i only have video in totem and no sound | 15:45 |
| vidd | ^paradox^, have you sound in other apps? | 15:46 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, have you turned the volume of Totem up? And you might also want to check the settings in that Volume Control panel plugin | 15:46 |
| ^paradox^ | yes in vlc and mplayer | 15:46 |
| hallo0123 | hm... anyway... will it harm my hard disk, when i am pushing in the power button each time? | 15:46 |
| vidd | ^paradox^, then totem is you issue, not the volume manager | 15:47 |
| vidd | hallo0123, i dont believe so | 15:47 |
| ^paradox^ | how do i fix it? | 15:47 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, have you checked that Totem's volume is turned up? | 15:48 |
| * vidd uninstalled it and installed gxine cuzz he could never get totem to work right | 15:48 | |
| ^paradox^ | well let me check totems volume | 15:48 |
| ^paradox^ | brb | 15:48 |
| ^paradox^ | the volume button is grayed out | 15:49 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, are you playing a file? | 15:51 |
| ^paradox^ | i have a video clip mpg on pause | 15:51 |
| hallo0123 | anyway... i have an more important question... how to configurate a network... | 15:52 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, hmm, that's odd | 15:52 |
| hallo0123 | cos xubu is saying: no network devices have been found | 15:52 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, you might want to file a bugreport on Totem | 15:52 |
| ^paradox^ | so totems not only for gnome? | 15:53 |
| vinnl | No | 15:53 |
| vinnl | Well, it's a GNOME project, but it works in Xfce too | 15:53 |
| vinnl | (It does for me, anyway :) | 15:53 |
| ^paradox^ | ok ill file a bug report | 15:54 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, where are you doing that btw? | 15:54 |
| ^paradox^ | i was using bug report under help | 15:55 |
| vinnl | Oh OK | 15:55 |
| vinnl | That's probably fine :) | 15:55 |
| ^paradox^ | seems i need a launchpad account | 15:55 |
| vinnl | Yeah | 15:56 |
| ^paradox^ | okie let me sign up | 15:56 |
| ^paradox^ | alright submitted | 16:14 |
| vinnl | Great :) | 16:15 |
| ^paradox^ | whats this xine? is there any media specifically for xfce? | 16:16 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, there's xfmedia | 16:16 |
| vinnl | !xine | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about xine | 16:16 |
| ^paradox^ | its ok bot go do ur bot things | 16:17 |
| vinnl | :P | 16:17 |
| ^paradox^ | that things creeping me out | 16:17 |
| ^paradox^ | its not big issue, but whenever i click media totem is what automatically opens it | 16:18 |
| ^paradox^ | and i cant find a repeat function in the other players | 16:19 |
| ^paradox^ | is there a place in the menu bar to check to see if totems volume is turned up? | 16:23 |
| vidd | ^paradox^, let me re-install totem and see | 16:24 |
| ^paradox^ | ok | 16:24 |
| vidd | ^paradox^, totem has a "sound" menu | 16:24 |
| ^paradox^ | volume up and down are grayed out as well | 16:25 |
| vidd | same on mine | 16:25 |
| vidd | but when i have it working on something, they become available | 16:26 |
| ^paradox^ | not for me | 16:27 |
| ^paradox^ | same happens with mp3s | 16:29 |
| ^paradox^ | totem always work in gnome though. i dont understand it | 16:30 |
| ^paradox^ | anyways | 16:31 |
| ^paradox^ | im having more ram and an ati radeon or some other 3D video card installed by geek squad in about a week | 16:32 |
| vidd | like i said....i always had issues with it, so i dont use it | 16:32 |
| ^paradox^ | they said they have linux guys | 16:32 |
| ^paradox^ | maybe by chance theyll have an answer | 16:32 |
| vidd | is ati stuff linux freindly? | 16:33 |
| vidd | do you have gnome running on this sysem? | 16:33 |
| ^paradox^ | they said theyd find a good card that could handle the 3D mmorpg games that ive been wanting to try | 16:33 |
| ^paradox^ | yes i originally installed ubuntu | 16:34 |
| ^paradox^ | in the last few days i decided to try xubuntu-desktop | 16:34 |
| vidd | and if you load ubuntu instead of xubuntu, sound works? | 16:34 |
| ^paradox^ | yeh no problems there | 16:35 |
| Myrtti | Then it might be pulseaudio | 16:35 |
| vinnl | OK that's seriously odd | 16:35 |
| vinnl | Ah, good thinking :) | 16:35 |
| ^paradox^ | ive been using linux for about 6 months | 16:35 |
| vidd | so since you loaded xubuntu-desktop and found this issue, you switched back over to ubuntu and played sound | 16:35 |
| vidd | ? | 16:35 |
| ^paradox^ | im very pleased with it | 16:35 |
| vinnl | !pulseaudio | 16:35 |
| ubottu | PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions | 16:35 |
| ^paradox^ | yes i tried it under ubuntu after the fact | 16:36 |
| ^paradox^ | works great under ubuntu | 16:36 |
| ^paradox^ | whys the bot following me like a lost puppy? | 16:37 |
| vidd | this "PulseAudio" think might be worth looking into | 16:37 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, when you say !<something> the bot replies | 16:37 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, I said !pulseaudio so ubottu provided its information on PulseAudio | 16:37 |
| vinnl | !bot | 16:37 |
| ubottu | Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | 16:38 |
| ^paradox^ | lol k | 16:38 |
| Myrtti | Its not totally troublefree even in gnome, Id be surprised if it were problemfree with gnome/xfce combo | 16:38 |
| vidd | vinnl, does xubuntu use this pulseaudio? | 16:38 |
| Myrtti | No | 16:39 |
| vinnl | Apparently not | 16:39 |
| vinnl | It was just on the mailinglist IIRC | 16:39 |
| ^paradox^ | so then might be the problem? | 16:39 |
| Myrtti | If you install clean xubuntu you dont get pulseaudio | 16:39 |
| vidd | ^paradox^, try sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio | 16:40 |
| vidd | this should do one of 2 thing.... | 16:40 |
| vinnl | vidd, not sure if that's wise | 16:40 |
| vinnl | If he still intends to use Ubuntu, I don't know what effect that will have | 16:40 |
| vidd | fix audio in xubuntu or break audio in ubuntu | 16:40 |
| vidd | once it is completely removed, test audio in both | 16:41 |
| ^paradox^ | i dont wanna break audio in ubuntu | 16:41 |
| vidd | then sudo apt-get install pulseaudio and retest | 16:41 |
| vidd | ^paradox^, you will re-add it | 16:41 |
| ^paradox^ | ok let me get a terminal brb | 16:42 |
| vidd | and dont be alarmed if it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop | 16:42 |
| vidd | that is just a meta-package that pulls all the componants in | 16:43 |
| vinnl | (But be sure to reinstall it afterwards) | 16:43 |
| ^paradox^ | got a phone call back in a few minutes | 16:43 |
| vidd | vinnl, i will make sure he does | 16:44 |
| vinnl | ^.^ | 16:44 |
| vidd | methinks the issue is that pulseaudio doesnt know about xubuntu.... | 16:44 |
| ron_o | why didn't I think of that before: sudo <name terminal> puts you in constant root. :) | 16:45 |
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| ron_o | duh! | 16:45 |
| vinnl | ron_o, or "sudo su" ;-) | 16:45 |
| ron_o | oh.. :) | 16:45 |
| vidd | and reinstalling will make it work under both ubuntu and xubuntu | 16:45 |
| ron_o | hehe. | 16:45 |
| ron_o | I thought ubuntu didn't allow that. Was that before? | 16:45 |
| vinnl | And I believe there was also an argument for sudo | 16:45 |
| vinnl | I don't think so. There've always been plenty of ways to achieve it, but since it's not recommended it's not advertised either | 16:46 |
| vidd | ron_o, sudo su has always worked....at least since breezy when i came onboard | 16:46 |
| ron_o | ahh, I think before then it didn't. | 16:46 |
| ron_o | whatever. thanks. | 16:46 |
| vinnl | :) | 16:46 |
| ron_o | I remember there was a big todo about it. You know, the whole windows thing of dummying a system down. | 16:47 |
| vidd | how many realeases were there b4 breezy? | 16:47 |
| vinnl | Warty and Hoary | 16:48 |
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| vidd | so i only missed 2 | 16:48 |
| vinnl | I believe I stepped in just before Hoary (5.04?) was released | 16:48 |
| vinnl | And then switched to Xubuntu about the time of Breezy (5.10) | 16:48 |
| vidd | xubuntu wasnt "offical" till 6.06 methinks | 16:49 |
| vinnl | No it wasn't | 16:49 |
| vinnl | But there was a xubuntu-desktop package for 5.10 | 16:49 |
| vidd | interesting bit of trivia....i missed it then | 16:50 |
| vinnl | ^.^ | 16:50 |
| vinnl | That was when Jani Monoses was still working hard to get it released :) | 16:50 |
| vinnl | I might do a blog post on Xubuntu's history some time :) | 16:50 |
| ron_o | they really tricked everyone with that whole numbering scheme.. | 16:50 |
| vidd | breezy was when the only install disk was the trusty "alt install" | 16:50 |
| vinnl | Seeing as it's about aligned with my history of using open source oeprating systems | 16:50 |
| vinnl | vidd, yep | 16:50 |
| vinnl | ron_o, yeah it was kind of confusing | 16:51 |
| ron_o | when I came on board in the beginning and #ubuntu was just filled to the capacity. You couldn't get a word in edge wise. | 16:51 |
| ron_o | and then they said, well 'it's still beta you know'.. | 16:51 |
| vinnl | Ubuntu was the first open source operating system I used, and then it was versioned 4.10 and I couldn't really follow | 16:51 |
| vinnl | It took a long time to get acquainted with the whole thing :) | 16:51 |
| ron_o | indeed.. | 16:51 |
| vinnl | And I hadn't even found out about IRC yet :P | 16:52 |
| ron_o | much different than windows.. way better in the end. At first I was complaining about it like any old chap would. | 16:52 |
| vinnl | Hehe, then again, I was only fourteen years old back then :P | 16:52 |
| vidd | the learning curve | 16:52 |
| ron_o | wow, the idea that they would put all the apps in one repository and make sure they are malware free. And to think... ;-> | 16:52 |
| vinnl | ^.^ | 16:52 |
| vidd | ron_o, been that way for years | 16:53 |
| vinnl | Not on Windows | 16:53 |
| ron_o | I know, but that was my thought when I came over from windows. | 16:53 |
| vidd | debian (if im not mistaken) is older then SUSE | 16:53 |
| ron_o | tried redhat back in the late 90s.. couldn't even get it running. | 16:53 |
| ron_o | and suse too.. but just barely running. | 16:53 |
| vidd | my first forlay into linux was redhat | 16:54 |
| ron_o | then ubuntu then zenwalk then sabayon (gentoo derivative) then back to xubuntu because I liked it so much. | 16:54 |
| vidd | it worked great...till i tried to install something | 16:54 |
| vinnl | Btw, vidd, ron_o, shall we move to #xubuntu-offtopic? | 16:54 |
| ron_o | well I'm busy. :) | 16:55 |
| ron_o | hehe. | 16:55 |
| ^paradox^ | that was my grandparents | 16:55 |
| vidd | #xubuntu-offtopic | 16:55 |
| vidd | whoops | 16:55 |
| vinnl | Hehe | 16:55 |
| ^paradox^ | im a little worried about losing ubuntu-desktop | 16:55 |
| vidd | dont be | 16:56 |
| vidd | ubuntu-desktop isnt a real app | 16:56 |
| vidd | and we will put it back in a bit | 16:56 |
| vidd | after we finish the "without pulseaudio" test | 16:57 |
| ^paradox^ | ok ill go ahead run that command | 16:57 |
| vinnl | vidd, why with --purge btw? | 16:58 |
| vidd | so he gets a "fresh" set of config files when he re-installs | 16:58 |
| vinnl | Ah OK | 16:58 |
| vidd | removes the chance of the reinstall getting lazy =] | 16:59 |
| vidd | and just using the existing files | 16:59 |
| ^paradox^ | the command was sudo apt-get install pulseaudio? | 16:59 |
| vidd | ^paradox^, sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio | 17:00 |
| vidd | its already installed...we want to pull it | 17:01 |
| ^paradox^ | sorry just trying to locate a terminal. the menus are a little different | 17:06 |
| vinnl | Applications->Accessories->Terminal | 17:06 |
| ^paradox^ | ok got it | 17:07 |
| * vidd has brought the 6.06 menu with him | 17:08 | |
| vidd | ^paradox^, so you remember the steps? | 17:09 |
| vidd | uninstall, test, reinstall, test | 17:10 |
| ^paradox^ | first i remove, then retest with totem | 17:10 |
| * vidd has to step away for about 10-15 minutes | 17:10 | |
| vidd | yes | 17:10 |
| vidd | the command to remove is sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio | 17:11 |
| vidd | you want to test totem in both xubuntu and ubuntu | 17:11 |
| vidd | the command to re-install is sudo apt-get install pulseaudio | 17:12 |
| vidd | and retest in both ubuntu and xubuntu | 17:12 |
| vidd | and if removing pulseaudio removes ubuntu-desktop, the command to reinstall it is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 17:13 |
| vidd | be back in a bit | 17:13 |
| ^paradox^ | ok | 17:13 |
| ^paradox^ | im sorry guys i dont wanna do this. if i had someone more knowledgable than myself in the same room itd be a different story | 17:23 |
| vinnl | ^paradox^, I can imagine | 17:23 |
| vinnl | I suppose you'll just have to use VLC or Mplayer instead of Totem | 17:23 |
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| ^paradox^ | hopefully the guys at geeksquad will be just as good as u guys. if i gotta pay a little extra for it so be it | 17:24 |
| vinnl | ^.^ | 17:25 |
| vidd | ^paradox^, im back | 17:25 |
| ^paradox^ | for the install of a gig of ram and a better video card they said itll cost $250 | 17:25 |
| vidd | .... wow | 17:26 |
| vidd | is that installed? | 17:26 |
| vidd | and configured? | 17:26 |
| ^paradox^ | hi vidd i couldnt do it. im scared shitless | 17:26 |
| vidd | ^paradox^, dont be afraid | 17:27 |
| vidd | there is nothing that commad does that apt-get install wont put back | 17:27 |
| vidd | but you might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio | 17:29 |
| vidd | but i never used thpulseaudio so i dont know what all is involved' | 17:29 |
| vinnl | I'm off guys, bye | 17:30 |
| vidd | l8r vinnl | 17:30 |
| ^paradox^ | im just gonna use another player for now. how can i get it to "automatically" open with another program? | 17:31 |
| vidd | right-click and choose "open with" | 17:31 |
| vidd | select the other app, and check the box for "set default" (or something similar) | 17:32 |
| ^paradox^ | if i had someone here who knows linux id let em go to town on it | 17:33 |
| vidd | im not "on site" but im here | 17:33 |
| ^paradox^ | maybe u could remote me and look into it? | 17:35 |
| vidd | you would have to set up sshd on your system, give me a username and password, and add me to the "admin" group | 17:36 |
| vidd | then you would need to make sure that port 22 is open and routed to that specific machine, and provide the IP address | 17:37 |
| ^paradox^ | how would i set up sshd? | 17:38 |
| vidd | and the username, password and IP are best to be transmitted via PM | 17:38 |
| vidd | sudo apt-get install openssh-server i believe | 17:40 |
| indo | anyone using the apple aluminum usb keyboard? | 17:42 |
| ^paradox^ | dang it someone else calling me. this my day off too | 17:48 |
| ^paradox^ | geeze my cousin needs a hand at his storage room. ill have to try this later this evening, but ill save the chat for referrence | 17:52 |
| vidd | if its after 5pm eastern, i wont be available | 17:53 |
| ^paradox^ | ok np. at least my pc doesnt have a serious problem :D | 17:54 |
| linko47 | hi there | 18:09 |
| vidd | whats up | 18:09 |
| linko47 | not much. getting ready to wash some clothes | 18:10 |
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| vidd | can anyone recommend some kind of root kit detector? | 21:50 |
| vidd | i use rkhunter, but would like to have a second tool | 21:51 |
| favro | !rootkit | 21:51 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about rootkit | 21:51 |
| Myrtti | chrootkit? | 21:51 |
| Myrtti | or whatever it was | 21:52 |
| * Myrtti checks | 21:52 | |
| Myrtti | chkrootkit | 21:52 |
| vidd | i just think its odd there are no updates for rkhunter in 3 months | 21:53 |
| vidd | is that apt-get -able | 21:53 |
| vidd | ? | 21:53 |
| Myrtti | that's where I looked it up | 21:53 |
| vidd | do you use it? | 21:54 |
| Myrtti | !info chkrootkit | 21:54 |
| ubottu | chkrootkit (source: chkrootkit): Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.47-1.1 (hardy), package size 264 kB, installed size 740 kB | 21:54 |
| Myrtti | no | 21:54 |
| vidd | heh...you use anything? | 21:54 |
| Myrtti | nope - I don't install stuff from outside sources | 21:54 |
| vidd | ic.... | 21:55 |
| Myrtti | ie. everything is from either launchpad ppa's or ubuntu official repositories | 21:55 |
| vidd | so your linux box is never connected to the internet | 21:55 |
| vidd | or windows machines? | 21:55 |
| Myrtti | no windowses outside virtual machines | 21:55 |
| vidd | maybe im just paranoid | 21:56 |
| vidd | =] | 21:56 |
| Odd-rationale | if you have a strong password, and a disabled root account, you should be quite safe from rootkits...imo | 21:56 |
| Myrtti | I'm more worried about physical threats | 21:57 |
| Myrtti | I've got all my partitions encrypted and grub single user mode is also behind password | 21:57 |
| vidd | the only physical theat i have to worry about is the kid standing on the laptop bag with the lappy in it | 21:57 |
| Myrtti | so you don't ever leave home with your laptop then ;-) | 21:58 |
| vidd | no....i never leave my laptop unattended | 21:58 |
| Myrtti | fair enough | 21:58 |
| vidd | if i left it home, id have to worry about the old lady finding all that prn | 21:59 |
| vidd | =] | 21:59 |
| Myrtti | of course I've got a company policy watching behind my back that everything that might contain company stuff should be on encrypted media | 22:00 |
| vidd | never a bad polocy | 22:00 |
| * vidd never bothered to encrypt hd's | 22:01 | |
| Myrtti | but then again one of our clients has a company policy that everyone working on their products should be monitored with security cameras while they work | 22:01 |
| vidd | how would you rescue from an unbootable drive? | 22:01 |
| Myrtti | which *ROFL* is kinda hilarious thought since most of us work from home | 22:01 |
| Myrtti | anyway | 22:02 |
| Myrtti | vidd: I've got multiple backups | 22:02 |
| vidd | so, basically, if the drive dies, the data is lost? | 22:03 |
| Myrtti | one serverside, one separate encrypted hard drive, encrypted tarballs on DVD's | 22:03 |
| vidd | *data on that drive* | 22:03 |
| Myrtti | and same data on both my desktop and laptop | 22:03 |
| Myrtti | emails on the imap server... most of work stuff on svn... | 22:04 |
| Myrtti | I'm quite safe even if harddrives would fail :-) | 22:04 |
| vidd | so it would seem | 22:05 |
| Myrtti | beauty of Linux - backups are really easy to do | 22:05 |
| Myrtti | I once formatted my / from under me | 22:06 |
| vidd | but in theory, would one be able to recover encrypted data from a failed hd? | 22:06 |
| Myrtti | if they can first decipher my strong >=12-charachter passwords | 22:07 |
| vidd | im speaking from a you recover your own data from a failed hd | 22:08 |
| Myrtti | I don't | 22:08 |
| vidd | but you could if you had to? | 22:08 |
| Myrtti | I've got backups from where I recover | 22:08 |
| Myrtti | why bother - it's cheaper to get the data from the backups than to send the harddrive to data recovery experts | 22:09 |
| vidd | because at the moment i dont have back-ups, and i dont have a data recovery expert | 22:10 |
| vidd | if i decide to encrypt hd's, i need to know im not going to paint myself into a coner | 22:10 |
| Myrtti | backups are always a good idea, even if the harddrives were not encrypted | 22:11 |
| Myrtti | I've had backup system three years before I started encrypting my harddrives | 22:11 |
| vidd | so basically, your not going to answer my question | 22:13 |
| vidd | does anyone else know....can you use a live cd to recover data from an encrypted hd if you know the password? | 22:14 |
| Myrtti | sure | 22:14 |
| vidd | thank you...thats all i wanted to know | 22:15 |
| vidd | i undersatnd that you , personally, would not | 22:15 |
| Myrtti | given it has not failed physically and the tools in the live cd can recover data | 22:16 |
| vidd | ive had to recover data of laptop hd's that ran windows lots of times | 22:16 |
| vidd | usually just a simple mount command to view them | 22:17 |
| vidd | well...im out | 22:25 |
| === zynergi is now known as zefyr | ||
| ouass | hi | 23:59 |
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