[00:33] Can someone help me out with this: http://pastebin.ca/1196001 ? wiki is a bit confusing, I'm trying to use a ladspa plugin, trying to figure out what the right syntax is for my .asoundrc [01:31] can anyone here help me with broadcom driver issues? [01:51] hey guys, can someone tell me how to install java jre2 v5/6? I need it for compiling, but I'm having trouble finding the pkg's/pkg name.. [01:52] !java [01:52] To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository [01:59] ok I found sun-java6-jre but is that jre2? [02:00] !info sun-java6-jre [02:00] sun-java6-jre (source: sun-java6): Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-06-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 6185 kB, installed size 14188 kB [02:02] favro, I am following this guide to compile gnashhttp://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/manual/gnashref.html#build [02:03] oops, http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/manual/gnashref.html#build [02:04] says I need JRE2, cant find it on sun, cant find the pkg..I found this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java but wrong pkg names, and NOWHERE do I get a clear answer to what are the pkg names for jre2 v5/6 in ubuntu [02:05] I just googled jre2 and am having a read [02:06] i found a note on javachannel.net for ubuntu but the pkg names are wrong [02:09] yes it is [02:09] err, sorta [02:09] jre2 actually refers to version 5 of Java [02:10] Just install xubuntu-restricted-extras :P [02:10] http://javachannel.net/wiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JavaOnUbuntu [02:17] hello group, is there anyone use empathy on xu? === kenneth is now known as kwhk [02:26] cody-somerville: the whole thing? :P [02:27] sure :-] [02:27] ... [02:27] solotim, I don't. [02:27] Rakeer, It has lots of other goodies you probably want anyhow [02:29] You have been invited to #stupiditypwns by Spencerical (kubrick.freenode.net) [02:29] wtf is that crap, this is a help channel [02:38] hi everyone. i have a p3 700mhz box with 256mb ram. you think it's powerful enough to run ubuntu server with virtualbox and run xubuntu as a web server as a virtualbox guest os? or would i be pushing the hardware a bit much? [02:38] i like the idea of taking snapshots of the guest os and restoring it if i do somethign stupid. [02:46] Rakeer, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras [02:47] E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-restricted-extras [02:48] Can you pastebin apt-cache policy? [02:50] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/44085/ [02:52] It was introduced in 7.10 [02:53] You're using Feisty. There has been two releases since Feisty and we're preparing for a third this October. [02:53] indeed. Im on a ps3. :P [03:09] Rakeer, You can upgrade to Hardy [03:12] yes, I can...and I will no longer enjoy the very nice level of ubuntu experienc eon a PS3 I am getting.. [03:12] have already gone that route and went back....intrepid is supposed to be much nicer [03:12] though I havent personally had time to experiment with the kernel.. [03:13] everything I am doing here is to produce a .deb for all the ps3'ers to install and get full flash support in firefox [03:15] What needs to be done to do that? [03:18] ffmpeg compiled then added to gnash source, reconf and compile [03:22] You can't distribute that though, can you? === kenneth is now known as kwhk [03:24] I have to learn to do it so I can write a complete 'noob' tutorial for others to follow on just how to compile it... [03:24] becuase no, in the u.s. at least, I can't distribute it [03:25] but I have seen those sorts of things pop up on torrents...not that I would have anything to do with that in this country [03:25] howdy [03:28] Rakeer, Well, download the source code [03:28] It is probably a compile time option [03:29] well, I'm being told I don't need it, since it use is for making doc's [03:29] hmm? [03:29] and I don't /need/ to compile the doc's [03:31] I'm following the gnash guide, and it doesn't make too much room to tell you what you really need/don't need in reality.. [03:35] Once again [03:36] Thats probably just a compile time option [03:52] is there a better powermanagment tool, I'm on a desktop but i would like have better controll of the hdd power [03:52] my bios is conflicting with something, so i had to set them always on in the bios [03:54] nbl: this link may be helpful -- seems like some other people were asking the same thing: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=387346 [04:00] so use laptop-mode-tools? i heard of it before but it seems odd since im on a desktop [04:01] nbl: really not sure... but its worth a try [04:01] "laptop mode tools will automatically start when your laptop goes into battery mode." [04:02] wont work [04:02] but this may hdparm [04:02] nbl: bummer... maybe something else in that thread may help, but that's beyond my knowledge [04:19] is there a way to configure shortcut for minimizing current window? [04:36] is there a way to get a Network places like there is in ubuntu, in xubuntu [04:37] We're working on that for Intrepid [04:38] is it in the alpha release now? [04:39] Not that feature, no [04:39] It might not make Intrepid unfortunately [04:40] I have my fingers crossed [04:42] why would it not? it should just for ease of use. [04:45] nbl, It isn't that I don't want to give you every feature you might want with a useful feature to boot [04:46] s/feature/interface [04:46] However, I've yet to test the work being done [04:46] Feature freeze has passed and the work on it isn't even done yet [04:46] oh, since xubuntu should be light weight, no need to have [04:46] no, it has nothing to do with that [04:47] It has to do with it being stable and ready enough for me to include it. People would rather not have the feature than have a buggy operating system they can't use. [04:47] let alone the code actually being done :P [05:19] i'm trying to do mount a shared folder, and i get a cifs retern error -22 [05:19] any clue what that is? [05:39] smbfs need [05:44] i am not able to access network places in xubuntu [05:45] ? [05:45] any help [05:45] what [05:46] any man here [05:47] !network [05:47] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [05:47] !networkplaces [05:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about networkplaces [05:48] !network places [05:48] Sorry, I don't know anything about network places [06:06] what is the name of the tool that monitors the battery status in the system tray so i can remove it [06:07] and also how can you hide the wireless status in the system tray [06:17] hi [06:18] currently I am running kde, and I was wondering if I could install xfce and run it instead of kde, but have the ability to pick what I wanted to use [06:29] yes [06:29] hello === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [08:14] sup yo [08:14] this ya boy blake [08:17] IRC is so foolish [08:25] pot calling the kettle black methinks :) [08:32] no, not really [08:32] i'm not a chat protocol [08:32] more like the water in the kettle calling the kettle black === tuna-fish is now known as tuna === blakeX is now known as tuna-fish [09:15] Hello, i just installed Xubuntu, anyone can explain me how to add one more langugage to keyboard tool ? [09:33] lol [09:36] hmm ? === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [10:50] How to change theme in Xubuntu ? [11:06] Definitely: Settings -> Settings Manager -> User Interface [11:07] aaa ok i found now ;] [11:07] jinKazama: Hmm after i add files which i need into .themes and .icons probably i need to log out and log in ? [11:09] brb relogining [11:53] When I launch nautilus from inside XFCE, my wallpaper changes and XFCE doesn't seem to be managing the desktop anymore. [11:53] I wonder why that is. [12:02] why do you launch nautilus then ;-) [12:09] Because I'm conditioned to. [12:10] It has become my instinct to type 'sudo nautilus' when I need to do file management at root. [12:10] I have gone totally, utterly and absolutely bonkers mad. [12:10] a) do not use sudo with a graphical application [12:11] ah yes [12:11] gksudo [12:11] b) gksudo mousepad .bashrc; alias nautilus='thunar` [12:11] ah good idea [12:11] :-) [12:13] So that'll only affect how bash does things, not how Gnome will, right? [12:13] yup [12:13] Goodie. [13:09] This is a quiet channel, isn't it? What sort of popularity do Xubuntu and Kubuntu have compared to Ubuntu? Because it's only a DE change... [13:15] ed: I can't speak to actualy popularity numbers, but typically support questions are not xubuntu specific (ie - not about xfce) so people are able to use the more general support forums for help [13:16] I see. [13:16] Yeah, that' sane I guess. [13:17] I personally always wonder why people are asking questions about printing or such in here :-) for me xubuntu, ubuntu and kubuntu are all just buntu's with a different colour frosting :-P [13:18] hello [13:18] and actually I do like xubuntu the best, even when I use Gnome on my desktop computer [13:18] Hi [13:18] Ben_Cs: hello [13:19] how can i login in xfce through terminal? (login inside login) [13:19] Ben_Cs, you mean as another user? [13:19] or myself? [13:19] Ben_Cs, when you open a terminal window it's ran as yourself by default [13:21] i restarted my laptop, now my taskbar/menubar is missing, anyone have any ideas? [13:21] xindo, press Alt+F2 then run "xfce4-panel" [13:22] vinnl: that did it, thank you [13:22] any idea why it might have done this? [13:22] Nope, happens a lot unfortunately :( [13:22] well thanks again for the fix [13:23] My pleasure ;) [13:23] vinnl: no. if something requires me to logout and login to test it (ie: a command) instead of alt+ctrl +F4 , i want to be able to login again inside the current shell [13:24] Ben_Cs, perhaps "su " will do the trick [13:25] vinnl: nope [13:25] Or first using su to change to another user and then using it to change back? [13:26] vinnl: i'm the only user [13:26] Anyone have trouble getting xfce to know it has a wired connection to the net? [13:26] Ben_Cs, hmm, perhaps create another user? I'm sorry, I'm not at home in shell scripting [13:27] vinnl: no way to open a new shell inside current one, and login? [13:27] Qigong, that's been the easiest thing I've found in Xubuntu :P [13:27] odd.. I only have 2 options, wireless and ppp [13:27] Ben_Cs, perhaps "screen" or something, but I'm really to much of a noob in that area [13:27] Qigong, if you right-click the icon, have you enabled wired connections? [13:28] yes [13:28] Hmm... [13:28] vinnl: i see. thanks anyway. i've started learning shell scripting recently :) [13:28] :) [13:28] Qigong: does "ifconfig" return any info on eth0? [13:28] bash.. ftw ;) [13:28] looking, I'm sure it did last night [13:29] sec.. I only have 'Enable Networking on th eright click and it's checked [13:30] Ah, yes, I've got the same [13:30] Are you sure the cable is plugged in correctly? ;-) [13:31] yes, it worked great with kubuntu. I see no eth0, just ath0 [13:32] Qigong: can you go to manual config? [13:34] not sure where.. I have Network settings up, but only show Wireless connection and p2p [13:34] left click on the network connect icon, choose manual configuration [13:35] yes, there.. it brings up the same, Network Settings.. then just the wireles and p2p is listed. [13:36] hmmm.... [13:38] I've not found anything that allows me to setup or look at eth0.. I assumed it was all automatic. [13:39] It's supposed to be, yes [13:43] it's almost like no eth0 stuff was loaded on install(?) I just added the network monitor applet to a panel and eth0 isn't recognized. [13:44] Qigong: run lspci and see if it has your ethernet card [13:45] ok [13:46] ethernet controller: Atheros Co.m [13:47] that's one of the limited, no support drivers [13:49] not an expert on these, but it may be a restricted driver, i know there is one for the wireless, but don't know about the wired cards [13:49] ok, ty.. still digging. [13:49] for instance, ubuntu installed my nvidia restricted automatically, i had to install it on xubuntu myself tho [13:51] Mmm, I see. ok [14:06] is there a simple way to test samba from linux to windows? [14:07] every time i try to mount the folder i time out [14:13] nbl: can you ping the machines from each other? [14:18] xindo yes, now how to i stop it! [14:25] ok, i was ping by ip, how to a ping by workgroup/computername === Qigong is now known as cyix [14:40] any one? [14:40] nbl, what? [14:41] i cant get samba working yet [14:41] every time i mount the windows dir. i time out [14:41] Oh, sorry, can't help there :( [14:53] do you have a german channel? [14:53] !english [14:53] The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat [14:54] i never had som much trouble setting up samba before with ubuntu [14:54] ...and it's supposed to become easier with Xubuntu 8.10 [14:55] well i was talking with some one else and he not sure it will make it into that build [14:55] True [14:55] But I'm crossing my fingers :) [14:56] me-too [14:57] i installed ubuntu on two other computers in my mixed home network and it was easier to set up, then configuring two windows based machines [14:57] okay... i have installed xubuntu.... booted my very slow laptop.... and started shutting it down... now i just can see the xubuntu screen.... [14:57] ok? [14:57] why is nt my laptop completly shutting down? [14:58] btw i had the same problem with opensuse [14:58] hallo0123, what do you mean by "the Xubuntu screen"? You mean the progress bar with the Xubuntu logo above it? [14:59] http://os-iso.de/images/xubuntu-7.04-2.jpg [14:59] on a side note i never see that, since my monitor does not like the refresh rate [15:00] hallo0123, which version of Xubuntu are you using? 7.04? [15:02] Right... If you press Ctrl+Alt+F1, do you get a screen full of text? (No need to pm message btw) [15:03] nope i dont [15:04] En what does the progress bar do? Is it full? [15:04] no, it isnt... it is still at the beginning [15:04] and there isnt anythink "moving" [15:05] And how long have you waited for it to complete? [15:06] häm... the screen has been approximatly 15 min... i dont know... quite a long while. but should be around the same time i came in the channel [15:07] hallo0123, im new to the troubleshooting so forgive if you already answered....how much ram? [15:07] should be 256 [15:07] live cd install or alt? [15:08] alternative [15:08] downloaded a few day ago [15:08] which version? [15:09] thats the file's name: xubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386 [15:09] 8.04, 7.10, 7.04, 6.06? [15:09] ok [15:09] and is this hang on reboot or install? [15:09] whilst shutting down.... (and i had the same prob with open suse) [15:10] so install is complete, and you are trying to reboot? [15:10] install was completed, and the laptop did boot. the system was ready to work... then i shutted down (tryed to). [15:11] so you had the system up once already [15:11] yeah [15:11] kill power....and try to boot [15:12] alright [15:12] on a laptop, pull the power cord and drop the battery [15:12] too late... pushed the power button for a few sec [15:13] that *sould* work [15:13] provided of course that does not trigger "hybernate" via bios [15:13] is it booting now? [15:14] yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss [15:14] so something in your shutdown scripts is hanky [15:15] yeah... wicked... when i had suse on my laptop there was on the screen "not falid system" (something like that, just in german... [15:15] let me know when the system is up [15:15] hi [15:15] anyone knows how to browse the network with xubuntu? [15:15] Rev, samba [15:15] someone that (form the german ubuntu channel) i should try to edit the menu.list in the /boot/grup directory [15:16] is that a software vidd? [15:16] someone said^^ [15:16] rev yes [15:16] i thought it was kind of a protocol [15:16] apt-get install samba? [15:16] i should take the splash out of there [15:16] rev dont know the specifics....i use ftp between my machines [15:17] rev same problem here [15:17] hallo0123, but the issue is shutting down...not booting up....right? [15:17] i thinking to use pyNeighborhood [15:17] yeah.. my laptop is now read to work [15:17] vidd that doesnt work [15:17] i have it installed but cant launch oi [15:17] nbl, Rev, try Googling for xubuntu and samba and variants, there are some posts that explain how to do it [15:17] nbl, crap :/ [15:17] Rev, you need an FTP server for it to work [15:17] i did [15:17] *and variants on that [15:17] no [15:18] I believe grumpymole's were supposed to be good [15:18] if its just a windows sharing folder, thats no ftp and that should work, shouldnt it? [15:18] so... should i do that? [15:18] Rev, it should with Samba [15:18] hallo0123, so what you want to do is check the log files to see what the last command running was befor this last boot-up [15:19] where can i see the log? [15:19] hallo0123, grub editing is for start-up issues, not shut-down [15:19] i believe /var/log [15:20] let me check my system =] [15:20] okay.. seems to be right [15:21] vidd, nbl we already have the smbclient installed on xubuntu [15:21] but we need something to "view" the shares [15:21] rev i tried this last night: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ComprehensiveSambaGuide [15:21] Rev, i cant help you with samba [15:21] i dont use it [15:21] you may have better luck then me [15:21] like in gnome "shortcuts" -> networks servers [15:22] i will never let my windows machines to access my linux boxes [15:23] rev xubuntu does not have it yet! they wish to get it in 8.10 but it is unlikly [15:23] thats retarded [15:23] this looks like to be a fix though, pyNeighbourhood [15:23] hallo0123, im no good at reading logs....i dont know which one is relavent [15:24] rev i would not complain, it is alot work these programers do to get ubuntu where it is today [15:24] Rev, if you want some gnome feature, add it! [15:24] ...or pay people to add it :P [15:24] ...or live without it and hope for the best :) [15:24] (I usually do that :P) [15:25] vinnl, me too....ftp FTW [15:25] One machine ftw :P [15:25] okay... i try to find out, which one the the right log.... [15:25] the code and know how is out there, if you think you have a better idea, go with, and program [15:25] nbl, that *is* a bit unreasonable [15:26] nbl, wait i could i have found something [15:26] lemme see [15:26] vinnl, i think hes saying get the program...not write it [15:26] In "and program" I interpreted "program" as a verb [15:27] nbl, indeed, i browsed trhough a lot of forum posts in the ubuntu and french ubuntu forum [15:28] forums* [15:28] and pyneighnourhood seems to be the best one [15:28] i will give it a try [15:28] i got a question... is xubuntu not completly translated? [15:28] in german language? [15:28] vinnl, any idea what log file to look at to see what program is failing to terminate during shutown? [15:29] hallo0123, probably not, no [15:29] But I expect it is for the most part [15:29] vidd, not by heart [15:29] Wasn't dmesg | tail something that could help when it comes to stuff like this? [15:30] i meant to program it, but more likely adopt the the sources code that is already out there for ubuntu [15:30] probably (i havent had to troubleshoot this kind of stuff since 6.06!) [15:30] can i help with translating... or at least for myself (if people think i am not doing well enough= [15:30] hallo0123, try dmesg | tail [15:31] nbl, that's cool :) [15:31] see if that gives you any idea what might be locking your system on shutdown [15:31] hallo0123, probably, the first step is to realize Xubuntu is made up of different applications which all can be translated individually [15:31] hallo0123, then check which applications haven't been fully translated and contact the application's developers to see if you can help in translating [15:31] (I did the same for Xfce in Dutch) [15:32] nbl i found something else [15:32] want to know? [15:32] rev http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131 [15:32] yes [15:32] nbl, aparently we can install fuse and fusesmb [15:33] that will "mount" the network in a network folder in Home that we could browse trhough thunar [15:33] you got a link? [15:33] ah [15:33] u found it already [15:33] you understand frenc? [15:33] french* [15:34] no [15:35] no [15:35] rev i got to get going, if you find anything interesting pm it to me (if you dont mind) [15:36] nbl, no problem, i will [15:37] i found something [15:38] unfortunately it is in german... so... but the solution should be (so someone says): xfce-setting-show session [15:39] That only allows you to configure Xfce's settings management I'd assume [15:39] mom... i am trying to translate [15:39] had the same problem after updating. my solution [15:40] [quote]xfce-setting-show session [/quote] [15:40] can anyone help me get 5.0 analog audio output? All I get is some weird 4.0-stereo, tried with this .asoundrc: http://pastebin.ca/1196441 but it didn't affect the sound at all. default and surroundXX don't get me any sound at all so I have to set default:CARD=AV200 in my media player to get any sound at all. [15:40] <^paradox^> when playing videos in totem media player i only get video, no sound. whats going on? [15:40] "logout setting" set / not set a tick. then is works fine for me [15:40] !sound [15:40] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [15:41] is it possible to use ddrescue to a directory on my partition /home rather than to another partition? [15:41] hallo0123, you could try that, you can also reach it from the Settings Manager, then "Sessions and Startup" :P [15:41] after booting change it if need be again [15:43] but which setting [15:44] hallo0123, "Automatically saave session on logout" [15:44] (I suppose) [15:44] <^paradox^> ubottu: where is the volume control in xubuntu? [15:45] ^paradox^, ubottu is a bot [15:45] Not a human :) [15:45] <^paradox^> lol ok [15:45] alright, i m gonna try [15:45] ^paradox^, but you can add a plugin to the panel for volume control [15:45] Oh, but those instructions are for Ubuntu btw [15:45] ^paradox^, you need to add it to the panel (which ever one you want) [15:45] ^paradox^, the links are what's important [15:45] hm... still the same event happening :-( [15:45] <^paradox^> well im just trying to figure out why i only have video in totem and no sound [15:46] ^paradox^, have you sound in other apps? [15:46] ^paradox^, have you turned the volume of Totem up? And you might also want to check the settings in that Volume Control panel plugin [15:46] <^paradox^> yes in vlc and mplayer [15:46] hm... anyway... will it harm my hard disk, when i am pushing in the power button each time? [15:47] ^paradox^, then totem is you issue, not the volume manager [15:47] hallo0123, i dont believe so [15:47] <^paradox^> how do i fix it? [15:48] ^paradox^, have you checked that Totem's volume is turned up? [15:48] * vidd uninstalled it and installed gxine cuzz he could never get totem to work right [15:48] <^paradox^> well let me check totems volume [15:48] <^paradox^> brb [15:49] <^paradox^> the volume button is grayed out [15:51] ^paradox^, are you playing a file? [15:51] <^paradox^> i have a video clip mpg on pause [15:52] anyway... i have an more important question... how to configurate a network... [15:52] ^paradox^, hmm, that's odd [15:52] cos xubu is saying: no network devices have been found [15:52] ^paradox^, you might want to file a bugreport on Totem [15:53] <^paradox^> so totems not only for gnome? [15:53] No [15:53] Well, it's a GNOME project, but it works in Xfce too [15:53] (It does for me, anyway :) [15:54] <^paradox^> ok ill file a bug report [15:54] ^paradox^, where are you doing that btw? [15:55] <^paradox^> i was using bug report under help [15:55] Oh OK [15:55] That's probably fine :) [15:55] <^paradox^> seems i need a launchpad account [15:56] Yeah [15:56] <^paradox^> okie let me sign up [16:14] <^paradox^> alright submitted [16:15] Great :) [16:16] <^paradox^> whats this xine? is there any media specifically for xfce? [16:16] ^paradox^, there's xfmedia [16:16] !xine [16:16] Sorry, I don't know anything about xine [16:17] <^paradox^> its ok bot go do ur bot things [16:17] :P [16:17] <^paradox^> that things creeping me out [16:18] <^paradox^> its not big issue, but whenever i click media totem is what automatically opens it [16:19] <^paradox^> and i cant find a repeat function in the other players [16:23] <^paradox^> is there a place in the menu bar to check to see if totems volume is turned up? [16:24] ^paradox^, let me re-install totem and see [16:24] <^paradox^> ok [16:24] ^paradox^, totem has a "sound" menu [16:25] <^paradox^> volume up and down are grayed out as well [16:25] same on mine [16:26] but when i have it working on something, they become available [16:27] <^paradox^> not for me [16:29] <^paradox^> same happens with mp3s [16:30] <^paradox^> totem always work in gnome though. i dont understand it [16:31] <^paradox^> anyways [16:32] <^paradox^> im having more ram and an ati radeon or some other 3D video card installed by geek squad in about a week [16:32] like i said....i always had issues with it, so i dont use it [16:32] <^paradox^> they said they have linux guys [16:32] <^paradox^> maybe by chance theyll have an answer [16:33] is ati stuff linux freindly? [16:33] do you have gnome running on this sysem? [16:33] <^paradox^> they said theyd find a good card that could handle the 3D mmorpg games that ive been wanting to try [16:34] <^paradox^> yes i originally installed ubuntu [16:34] <^paradox^> in the last few days i decided to try xubuntu-desktop [16:34] and if you load ubuntu instead of xubuntu, sound works? [16:35] <^paradox^> yeh no problems there [16:35] Then it might be pulseaudio [16:35] OK that's seriously odd [16:35] Ah, good thinking :) [16:35] <^paradox^> ive been using linux for about 6 months [16:35] so since you loaded xubuntu-desktop and found this issue, you switched back over to ubuntu and played sound [16:35] ? [16:35] <^paradox^> im very pleased with it [16:35] !pulseaudio [16:35] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [16:36] <^paradox^> yes i tried it under ubuntu after the fact [16:36] <^paradox^> works great under ubuntu [16:37] <^paradox^> whys the bot following me like a lost puppy? [16:37] this "PulseAudio" think might be worth looking into [16:37] ^paradox^, when you say ! the bot replies [16:37] ^paradox^, I said !pulseaudio so ubottu provided its information on PulseAudio [16:37] !bot [16:38] Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [16:38] <^paradox^> lol k [16:38] Its not totally troublefree even in gnome, Id be surprised if it were problemfree with gnome/xfce combo [16:38] vinnl, does xubuntu use this pulseaudio? [16:39] No [16:39] Apparently not [16:39] It was just on the mailinglist IIRC [16:39] <^paradox^> so then might be the problem? [16:39] If you install clean xubuntu you dont get pulseaudio [16:40] ^paradox^, try sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio [16:40] this should do one of 2 thing.... [16:40] vidd, not sure if that's wise [16:40] If he still intends to use Ubuntu, I don't know what effect that will have [16:40] fix audio in xubuntu or break audio in ubuntu [16:41] once it is completely removed, test audio in both [16:41] <^paradox^> i dont wanna break audio in ubuntu [16:41] then sudo apt-get install pulseaudio and retest [16:41] ^paradox^, you will re-add it [16:42] <^paradox^> ok let me get a terminal brb [16:42] and dont be alarmed if it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop [16:43] that is just a meta-package that pulls all the componants in [16:43] (But be sure to reinstall it afterwards) [16:43] <^paradox^> got a phone call back in a few minutes [16:44] vinnl, i will make sure he does [16:44] ^.^ [16:44] methinks the issue is that pulseaudio doesnt know about xubuntu.... [16:45] why didn't I think of that before: sudo puts you in constant root. :) === kwhk is now known as kwhk_ [16:45] duh! [16:45] ron_o, or "sudo su" ;-) [16:45] oh.. :) [16:45] and reinstalling will make it work under both ubuntu and xubuntu [16:45] hehe. [16:45] I thought ubuntu didn't allow that. Was that before? [16:45] And I believe there was also an argument for sudo [16:46] I don't think so. There've always been plenty of ways to achieve it, but since it's not recommended it's not advertised either [16:46] ron_o, sudo su has always worked....at least since breezy when i came onboard [16:46] ahh, I think before then it didn't. [16:46] whatever. thanks. [16:46] :) [16:47] I remember there was a big todo about it. You know, the whole windows thing of dummying a system down. [16:47] how many realeases were there b4 breezy? [16:48] Warty and Hoary === emma_ is now known as emma [16:48] so i only missed 2 [16:48] I believe I stepped in just before Hoary (5.04?) was released [16:48] And then switched to Xubuntu about the time of Breezy (5.10) [16:49] xubuntu wasnt "offical" till 6.06 methinks [16:49] No it wasn't [16:49] But there was a xubuntu-desktop package for 5.10 [16:50] interesting bit of trivia....i missed it then [16:50] ^.^ [16:50] That was when Jani Monoses was still working hard to get it released :) [16:50] I might do a blog post on Xubuntu's history some time :) [16:50] they really tricked everyone with that whole numbering scheme.. [16:50] breezy was when the only install disk was the trusty "alt install" [16:50] Seeing as it's about aligned with my history of using open source oeprating systems [16:50] vidd, yep [16:51] ron_o, yeah it was kind of confusing [16:51] when I came on board in the beginning and #ubuntu was just filled to the capacity. You couldn't get a word in edge wise. [16:51] and then they said, well 'it's still beta you know'.. [16:51] Ubuntu was the first open source operating system I used, and then it was versioned 4.10 and I couldn't really follow [16:51] It took a long time to get acquainted with the whole thing :) [16:51] indeed.. [16:52] And I hadn't even found out about IRC yet :P [16:52] much different than windows.. way better in the end. At first I was complaining about it like any old chap would. [16:52] Hehe, then again, I was only fourteen years old back then :P [16:52] the learning curve [16:52] wow, the idea that they would put all the apps in one repository and make sure they are malware free. And to think... ;-> [16:52] ^.^ [16:53] ron_o, been that way for years [16:53] Not on Windows [16:53] I know, but that was my thought when I came over from windows. [16:53] debian (if im not mistaken) is older then SUSE [16:53] tried redhat back in the late 90s.. couldn't even get it running. [16:53] and suse too.. but just barely running. [16:54] my first forlay into linux was redhat [16:54] then ubuntu then zenwalk then sabayon (gentoo derivative) then back to xubuntu because I liked it so much. [16:54] it worked great...till i tried to install something [16:54] Btw, vidd, ron_o, shall we move to #xubuntu-offtopic? [16:55] well I'm busy. :) [16:55] hehe. [16:55] <^paradox^> that was my grandparents [16:55] #xubuntu-offtopic [16:55] whoops [16:55] Hehe [16:55] <^paradox^> im a little worried about losing ubuntu-desktop [16:56] dont be [16:56] ubuntu-desktop isnt a real app [16:56] and we will put it back in a bit [16:57] after we finish the "without pulseaudio" test [16:57] <^paradox^> ok ill go ahead run that command [16:58] vidd, why with --purge btw? [16:58] so he gets a "fresh" set of config files when he re-installs [16:58] Ah OK [16:59] removes the chance of the reinstall getting lazy =] [16:59] and just using the existing files [16:59] <^paradox^> the command was sudo apt-get install pulseaudio? [17:00] ^paradox^, sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio [17:01] its already installed...we want to pull it [17:06] <^paradox^> sorry just trying to locate a terminal. the menus are a little different [17:06] Applications->Accessories->Terminal [17:07] <^paradox^> ok got it [17:08] * vidd has brought the 6.06 menu with him [17:09] ^paradox^, so you remember the steps? [17:10] uninstall, test, reinstall, test [17:10] <^paradox^> first i remove, then retest with totem [17:10] * vidd has to step away for about 10-15 minutes [17:10] yes [17:11] the command to remove is sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio [17:11] you want to test totem in both xubuntu and ubuntu [17:12] the command to re-install is sudo apt-get install pulseaudio [17:12] and retest in both ubuntu and xubuntu [17:13] and if removing pulseaudio removes ubuntu-desktop, the command to reinstall it is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [17:13] be back in a bit [17:13] <^paradox^> ok [17:23] <^paradox^> im sorry guys i dont wanna do this. if i had someone more knowledgable than myself in the same room itd be a different story [17:23] ^paradox^, I can imagine [17:23] I suppose you'll just have to use VLC or Mplayer instead of Totem === biabia is now known as [biabia] [17:24] <^paradox^> hopefully the guys at geeksquad will be just as good as u guys. if i gotta pay a little extra for it so be it [17:25] ^.^ [17:25] ^paradox^, im back [17:25] <^paradox^> for the install of a gig of ram and a better video card they said itll cost $250 [17:26] .... wow [17:26] is that installed? [17:26] and configured? [17:26] <^paradox^> hi vidd i couldnt do it. im scared shitless [17:27] ^paradox^, dont be afraid [17:27] there is nothing that commad does that apt-get install wont put back [17:29] but you might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio [17:29] but i never used thpulseaudio so i dont know what all is involved' [17:30] I'm off guys, bye [17:30] l8r vinnl [17:31] <^paradox^> im just gonna use another player for now. how can i get it to "automatically" open with another program? [17:31] right-click and choose "open with" [17:32] select the other app, and check the box for "set default" (or something similar) [17:33] <^paradox^> if i had someone here who knows linux id let em go to town on it [17:33] im not "on site" but im here [17:35] <^paradox^> maybe u could remote me and look into it? [17:36] you would have to set up sshd on your system, give me a username and password, and add me to the "admin" group [17:37] then you would need to make sure that port 22 is open and routed to that specific machine, and provide the IP address [17:38] <^paradox^> how would i set up sshd? [17:38] and the username, password and IP are best to be transmitted via PM [17:40] sudo apt-get install openssh-server i believe [17:42] anyone using the apple aluminum usb keyboard? [17:48] <^paradox^> dang it someone else calling me. this my day off too [17:52] <^paradox^> geeze my cousin needs a hand at his storage room. ill have to try this later this evening, but ill save the chat for referrence [17:53] if its after 5pm eastern, i wont be available [17:54] <^paradox^> ok np. at least my pc doesnt have a serious problem :D [18:09] hi there [18:09] whats up [18:10] not much. getting ready to wash some clothes === evilbug is now known as evilbug_ === evilbug_ is now known as evilbug__ [21:50] can anyone recommend some kind of root kit detector? [21:51] i use rkhunter, but would like to have a second tool [21:51] !rootkit [21:51] Sorry, I don't know anything about rootkit [21:51] chrootkit? [21:52] or whatever it was [21:52] * Myrtti checks [21:52] chkrootkit [21:53] i just think its odd there are no updates for rkhunter in 3 months [21:53] is that apt-get -able [21:53] ? [21:53] that's where I looked it up [21:54] do you use it? [21:54] !info chkrootkit [21:54] chkrootkit (source: chkrootkit): Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.47-1.1 (hardy), package size 264 kB, installed size 740 kB [21:54] no [21:54] heh...you use anything? [21:54] nope - I don't install stuff from outside sources [21:55] ic.... [21:55] ie. everything is from either launchpad ppa's or ubuntu official repositories [21:55] so your linux box is never connected to the internet [21:55] or windows machines? [21:55] no windowses outside virtual machines [21:56] maybe im just paranoid [21:56] =] [21:56] if you have a strong password, and a disabled root account, you should be quite safe from rootkits...imo [21:57] I'm more worried about physical threats [21:57] I've got all my partitions encrypted and grub single user mode is also behind password [21:57] the only physical theat i have to worry about is the kid standing on the laptop bag with the lappy in it [21:58] so you don't ever leave home with your laptop then ;-) [21:58] no....i never leave my laptop unattended [21:58] fair enough [21:59] if i left it home, id have to worry about the old lady finding all that prn [21:59] =] [22:00] of course I've got a company policy watching behind my back that everything that might contain company stuff should be on encrypted media [22:00] never a bad polocy [22:01] * vidd never bothered to encrypt hd's [22:01] but then again one of our clients has a company policy that everyone working on their products should be monitored with security cameras while they work [22:01] how would you rescue from an unbootable drive? [22:01] which *ROFL* is kinda hilarious thought since most of us work from home [22:02] anyway [22:02] vidd: I've got multiple backups [22:03] so, basically, if the drive dies, the data is lost? [22:03] one serverside, one separate encrypted hard drive, encrypted tarballs on DVD's [22:03] *data on that drive* [22:03] and same data on both my desktop and laptop [22:04] emails on the imap server... most of work stuff on svn... [22:04] I'm quite safe even if harddrives would fail :-) [22:05] so it would seem [22:05] beauty of Linux - backups are really easy to do [22:06] I once formatted my / from under me [22:06] but in theory, would one be able to recover encrypted data from a failed hd? [22:07] if they can first decipher my strong >=12-charachter passwords [22:08] im speaking from a you recover your own data from a failed hd [22:08] I don't [22:08] but you could if you had to? [22:08] I've got backups from where I recover [22:09] why bother - it's cheaper to get the data from the backups than to send the harddrive to data recovery experts [22:10] because at the moment i dont have back-ups, and i dont have a data recovery expert [22:10] if i decide to encrypt hd's, i need to know im not going to paint myself into a coner [22:11] backups are always a good idea, even if the harddrives were not encrypted [22:11] I've had backup system three years before I started encrypting my harddrives [22:13] so basically, your not going to answer my question [22:14] does anyone else know....can you use a live cd to recover data from an encrypted hd if you know the password? [22:14] sure [22:15] thank you...thats all i wanted to know [22:15] i undersatnd that you , personally, would not [22:16] given it has not failed physically and the tools in the live cd can recover data [22:16] ive had to recover data of laptop hd's that ran windows lots of times [22:17] usually just a simple mount command to view them [22:25] well...im out === zynergi is now known as zefyr [23:59] hi