[00:00] dupondje: Try disabling xv in gstreamer-properties [00:01] stupid question: how ? [00:01] :) [00:01] nvm [00:01] :p [00:01] pwnguin: how would one clear a DNS cache? [00:02] Jordan_U: didn't solve [00:03] Anyone else here had this problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/264019 [00:03] Launchpad bug 264019 in linux "unable to visit some websites and ftpsites with 2.6.27-2" [Undecided,New] [00:04] it's pretty hard to solve as it prevents me from upgrading anything that might have been fixed [00:06] Hinrik: You say that youtube.com is one of the sites you can't get to? [00:06] yeah [00:06] only very simple things work [00:07] Can you pastebin the output of "dig youtube.com" [00:07] I can google, and see the front page of a few sites, but trying anything else just makes it hang [00:07] Jordan_U: wait, let me see if I can pastebin :) [00:08] Hinrik: Is there any URL that you can find that you can't wget? [00:08] yeah, most of them [00:09] for one, I don't seem to be able to load a pastebin page [00:09] but "dig youtube.com" looked normal to me [00:09] I mean using the "wget" command [00:09] dns resolving works just fine, as does pinging [00:09] ok, wait [00:10] "wget google.com/index.html" works [00:11] this bug is very odd; I can view http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu but it just hangs if I try to view any of its subdirectories [00:12] "Waiting for archive.ubuntu.com" [00:12] And yes, I [00:12] And yes, I've tried other mirrors [00:12] works just fine on the computer I'm IRCing from, which is on the same network [00:13] as for ssh, I can log into a remote host, but if I do anything complicated like start irssi and connect to a server, it hangs again [00:15] if I wanted to downgrade the kernel (copy the .debs over via usb), which packages do would I need? just kernel-image-* ? [00:16] Hinrik: Why downgrade, just boot the old one with grub [00:16] Jordan_U: this is a clean install, not an upgrade [00:17] (I'm not the guy who filed the bug report, I'm the guy with the 'me too' comment) [00:18] Hinrik: I think you'll get everything if you look at the dependencies of the package "linux" [00:18] ok [00:19] linux-image and linux-restricted-modules then [00:21] Yeah, and of course whatever they depend on ( if anything ) [00:25] hm, where would I find the .debs? don't see a link to 'em on packages.ubuntu.com [00:25] ah. oops, never mind [00:26] still green lines in avi playback :( [00:26] damn :( [00:30] *crosses fingers* [00:36] I don't have a recording level monitor application [00:36] how do I install it, I kinda need it now [00:36] perillux: What app? [00:37] in Hardy there was a Applications > Sound > recording level monitor [00:37] and a volume level monitor [00:37] but it's not here in Intrepid [00:38] perillux: it is there, but hidden [00:38] right click on the menu and 'Edit menus' [00:38] there you can make it visible [00:38] and damn, 2.6.27-1 doesn't work either [00:38] Hinrik: it's not showing up in that list [00:39] can I install it via, "sudo apt-get install ...." ? [00:40] yeah, though I don't remember the name of the package...hm [00:41] gnome-media is the name [00:42] * Hinrik tries kernel 2.6.26-5 [00:46] how do I untar 7z ? [00:46] you don't because it's not a tar :) [00:47] so what's the workaround? [00:47] !7z [00:47] Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression [00:47] get the p7zip program [00:48] thanks [00:53] yay! 2.6.26-5 works [00:54] thanks for the help [01:01] Is there a way to stop audacity from disabling pulseaudio when it tries to play audio? [01:22] Jordan_U: www.dupondje.be/screen.avi [01:22] Jordan_U, configuring audacity to use ALSA: default ? Edit -> Preferences [01:22] this is how my video output looks like :( [01:24] x1250: Doesn't help [01:24] x1250: In fact that's what I was already doing [01:25] Jordan_U, strange, it works here. I can listen to rhythmbox while reproducing something in audacity also... [01:26] x1250: Is rhythmbox using pulseaudio? [01:27] Jordan_U, is that configurable? I can't find it on preferences [01:27] via gstreamer [01:27] x1250: It should be by default [01:27] x1250: See if it shows up in pavucontrol [01:29] uhm, pavucontrol says connection failed: connection refused, then closes itself [01:33] x1250: Maybe you aren't using pulseaudio for anything :) [01:34] Jordan_U, I have "Autodetect" in system->prefs->sound, isn't pulseaudio default? [01:34] x1250: It's supposed to be, but you never know with alpha's what is going to happen :) [01:51] I think I have this issue: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1002062.html [01:51] Is there anything I can do about it? [01:59] Why does nm-applet insist on showing "Auto eth0" instead of "Wired Network"? [02:01] here it shows "Auto eth0" under the "Wired Network" category [02:09] That's what I meant. [02:09] It used to show it differently. [02:09] I think 'Auto eth0' looks ugly. [02:11] edit it then [02:14] I renamed the connection..... [02:15] and it renamed it back. [02:15] It completely forgets whatever I name it. [02:39] beware the ath5k driver. it seems my hard lockups were caused by it. i'd love to be wrong, but it seems to work fine with madwifi [02:46] how far from beta are we? [03:03] d4t4min3r, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=791746 [03:37] If anyone's having xvideo problems on intrepid... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/267627 [03:37] Launchpad bug 267627 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "XVideo is garbled on r300" [Undecided,New] [04:25] I upgraded my computer fron hardy heron to intrepid in kubuntu, but I have no desktop effects. This laptop's graphics in a 7000-series discrete geoforce graphics chip. Is there a way to turn on the desktop effects? [04:26] martalli: Are you getting accelerated 3D at all? [04:26] Im not sure [04:26] I don't play games, etc [04:27] Hmm, glxgears won't run...maybe it isn't working [04:27] However, I checked jocky-kde and the nvidia 177 driver is in use [04:27] well [04:28] what does it know? [04:28] check your xorg logs [04:29] martalli: /var/log/Xorg.0.log [04:30] pwgguin: thx for the tip =) [04:31] hello everybody, i have made the leap to ibex, but i am very disappointed in X right now. [04:32] martalli: do you know what you're looking for? [04:32] pwnguin: It appears to be loading the nv module [04:32] it would appear that it is choosing the wrong video driver [04:32] martalli: right; and you want nvidia I presume [04:32] how can i specify to xorg to use the intel driver if i have no configuration in xorg.conf. this is frustrating beyond belief [04:33] pwnguin: I would think so, but it appears to be loading the nvidia files right after that [04:34] I'm trying to put it on pastebin [04:34] !pastebinit [04:34] Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebinit [04:34] bah [04:34] !pastebin [04:34] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [04:34] theres a tool [04:34] that lets you pipe files into pastebin [04:34] http://pastebin.ca/1196928 [04:34] can somebody please help me in getting X running to a satisfactory state as it was with gutsy? [04:35] i am using intel 810i chipset [04:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/44433/ - tried the ubuntu pastebin [04:36] martalli: i dont see how the pastebin service makes a difference ;) [04:36] pastebin.ca is very reliable. [04:36] martalli: at any rate [04:37] martalli: can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [04:38] http://pastebin.com/f119543ab [04:39] I used pastebinit this time, thanks for the tip [04:39] heh [04:39] p [04:39] im glad you figured it out quickly. i never can remember how to make it work =/ [04:39] It doesn't seem to have any details about the card involved [04:40] indeed [04:40] Nubbie, you don't need a xorg.conf to use the intel driver [04:40] martalli: what we're gonna do is add a Driver "nvidia" in the device section [04:40] I tried nvidia-settigns to set nvidia back in heron and it just messed the whole thing up.... [04:40] bsnider: i realize that, my concern is that X is choosing the wrong driver, and has left me with no way to remedy the situation [04:41] what driver is it picking? [04:41] ARgh, my gnome-panel stalls at login. [04:41] Something like in my old xorg.conf file from 2007: http://pastebin.com/f1babb88b ? [04:42] martalli: right [04:42] the options are... optional [04:42] Heh, handy way to trigger a crash and backtrace of a hung app: manually send it the SIGSEGV (segfault) signal -- that way, it'll trigger apport. [04:43] Hello again guys. [04:43] ok, basic question here... kdesu kate or kdesudo kate? I know not sudo kate... [04:43] kdesu [04:43] bsnider: thx [04:43] just make sure line 74 makes its way into your current xorg settings. i've heard it suggested that nvidia might become default [04:43] Anyone had a problem with network manager not saving setup after a reboot? [04:43] bsnider: i'm not sure, but compiz is failing to start [04:43] kdesu sounds like some kde japanese teaching program [04:44] Nubbie, that doesn't mean the intel driver isn't being loaded [04:45] bsnider: this is why i ask for logs and config files. "just the facts, ma'am." [04:45] Nubbie, you upgraded directly from gutsy to intrepid? [04:45] there's a stable distro in between [04:45] upgrade manager won't even let you [04:46] he's obviously borked it [04:46] well [04:47] maybe he upgraded to hardy, found it busted and upgraded to intrepid because obviously newer is better [04:47] why would he expect hardy to be more stable than intrepid? that doesn't make any sense [04:48] uhh... i think you're confused a bit in that last statement bsnider, but yes, you're right [04:48] bsnider: of course i meant i upgraded from hardy to ibex [04:48] ok, now it makes more sense [04:48] Guy? Network manager saving static setups for you? Should I investigate more and file a bug report or am I missing something? [04:48] *s [04:48] xorg 7.4 with the new intel driver will be released and subsequently added to intrepid in 2 days [04:49] Nubbie: If you have a problem with Intrepid ask in this channel and *only* in this channel, #ubuntu does not support development versions [04:49] bsnider: DRI2 by any chance? [04:49] yes, lets get snippy [04:49] Jordan_U: i realize that, but surely some people in #ubuntu share my problem are not present in this channel. [04:49] Jordan_U, i dunno [04:50] they had to change it because of the switch from ttm to gem [04:50] normally, it's the other way around, people in here asking about hardy =/ [04:50] nandemonai: I think I saw that, its crashed for me... [04:51] Hmm weird, ok it's just forgot the settings again after a apt-get update.. [04:51] Jordan_U: here is the pastebin of me trying to start compiz... http://pastebin.ca/1196943 [04:52] it's seg faulting pretty hard. [04:52] try the command glxinfo [04:53] bsnider: glx extension is missing on my display [04:54] well, then you can forget compiz [04:54] bsnider: shouldn't X11 automatically take care of that? [04:54] I should probably mention I'm running under VMware, that may have a lot to do with it. Perhaps I'll install on a spare drive and see if it still does it. [04:54] Nubbie: dual monitor? [04:54] pwnguin: no, just the LCD panel of my laptop [04:54] Nubbie: hmm. and compiz used to run? [04:55] bsnider: i know X11 isn't configured properly, but my issue is fixing it. xorg.conf is pretty much a useless POS now. [04:55] pwnguin: in hardy. [04:55] sadly(fortunately?), ive never owned any intel graphics [04:55] Nubbie: you should have the old xorg.conf lying around? [04:55] pwnguin: can't say i do, i upgraded. [04:56] ive upgraded plenty of times [04:56] you mean clean installed? [04:56] otherwise it's there [04:56] bsnider: i mean my working xorg.conf was overwritten when i upgraded. [04:56] check the directory for hidden files [04:57] you're only one of approximately 500k people having problems with the new x server [04:57] heh [04:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/257809 [04:57] and a lot of them are using intel graphics [04:57] Launchpad bug 257809 in kde-guidance "guidance-backends overwrites xorg.conf without confirmation or notification, if video card has changed since last boot" [Undecided,New] [04:57] lol it's there. [04:57] psh [04:57] look first! [04:57] then complain [04:58] well i came here knowing there would be nice people who understand where i'm coming from heheh [04:58] i try to spend some time each month in #ubuntu helping out [04:58] if all you want is understanding try a fight club [04:58] lol [04:59] just because you try an old xorg.conf doesn't mean it will work [04:59] brb... restarting X [04:59] sorry to break that news to you, but there it is [04:59] i know, but apparently the only xorg.conf files work with 7,4 [04:59] xorg.conf should still work [04:59] yes. [04:59] brb. [04:59] we're just trying to cut back the need [04:59] and thank you. [05:00] would you bet your life onj it? [05:00] well the need is still there, cutting back is counter-intuitive to me. [05:00] what would be nice if X had better detection, yet still wrote full configs. [05:01] we can't have our cake and eat it too [05:01] Nubbie: it'll never have better detection until we get more people testing hardware [05:01] cutting back on xorg.conf only hurts people who are able/willing to edit it, whereas better detection initially would benefit everybody [05:01] actually now that i think of it it probably does write config files but we don't know where htey are right now [05:02] Oh yeah.... now things can be done with fdi files instead of xorg.conf. [05:02] I've moved all my Synaptics options into an fdi file. [05:02] bsnider: it writes to fdi files in HAL. [05:02] but hal lacks one end-all be-all configuration file like xorg.conf was. [05:02] brb [05:03] or a gui config app [05:03] Yeah... there's no nice GUI for allllll the Synaptics features. [05:03] which does not yet exist lol, and a GUI config app doesn't help with no GUI running :P [05:04] but bullet-proof X is a blessing in the fact that if you mess up you still have a running x session to help, rather than rooting around xorg.conf in a recovery console. [05:04] i will give it that. i just want a full xorg.conf file, whether i need to use it or not. [05:06] I'd rather have the X error log, frankly. [05:06] Once I accidentally trigger failsafe X..... I can't get back normal X. [05:06] I end up having to reboot. [05:07] or run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart maybe... [05:07] Nope, that doesn't fix it for me. [05:09] no DRI2 until x-server 1.6, which they're hoping to get out by the end of the year, but too late to make it into intrepid === EagleSn is now known as EagleScreen [06:42] Hi! Is memtest in intrepid patched from the one on http://memtest.org? [06:43] When I run memtest from intrepid (via GRUB) it finds loads of problems [06:43] it's broken [06:43] it's mentioned in the release notes [06:43] but when I run memtest downloaded from memtest.org (via syslinux) it works [06:44] ah [06:44] Good that I didn't report my "broken" memory to Dell then... [06:44] :P [06:45] heh === Dedicated is now known as dedi_away === dedi_away is now known as Dedi [07:49] Where do core dumps go ? [08:18] does anybody know how to get rid of emacs-snapshot generating auctex stuff at each boot? it takes almost 10 minutes with heavy disk io [08:18] I looked in cron scripts but I cannot find who is launching it [08:19] the exact command is: emacs-snapshot --no-site-file --no-init-file --batch --load=/usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/auctex//../tex-site.el --funcall=TeX-auto-generate-global [08:24] anyone know how to make virtualbox to recognise my wireless? [08:26] nastas: you can't at all if network works like vmware in virtualbox [08:26] only throught cable TheInfinity? [08:27] nastas: no, it uses the network connection of the host [08:27] i see. thnx. [08:27] if the host has wireless internet access for example vmware also uses this connection [08:27] and I think virtualbox works in the same way [08:28] i'll try one more time [08:28] thnx [08:40] Hello, where do core dumps go ? [08:41] To apport, usually. /var/lib/crash [08:42] does apport work in final releases ? [08:43] Usually we turn it off. [08:44] how do I turn it on ? [08:45] /etc/default/apport, I believe. [08:45] thanks === fargiola` is now known as fargiolas [09:13] Will there be Ooo3 in intrepid - until now there is only Ooo2 in the repos [09:15] It's being investigated, but I believe the answer is looking like "no". [09:18] Reasons? [09:19] Because it's not released. [09:19] And seems unlikely to be released soon enough. [09:19] Ok, but FF3 was integrated in beta-status [09:19] didn't have a choice with firefox [09:20] What's not released? [09:20] mozilla refuses to maintain older branches [09:20] and Ooo3 is RC afaik [09:24] Ouch.... I can't fall asleep, because my back hurts. [09:26] Beta 2, it appears. [09:35] crdlb: FF3 was released a month or two after Hardy hit, surely they (Ububtu) could have held on to FF2 for just trhat little longer if it meant making Hardy at least look as though it had that little bit of extra polish [09:36] LSD|Ninja: and support FF2 without mozilla's help for 3 years? [09:36] http://development.openoffice.org/releases/3.0.0beta2rc1.html says beta2 is rc [09:37] crdlb: No, for the two months it would have taken for FF3 to hit [09:38] LSD|Ninja: so do an incompatible upgrade of a released LTS distro months after release? [09:38] crdlb: That's what LTS means [09:38] Ah. I see where the "LSD" comes from :) [09:39] schmidtm: Their roadmap suggests otherwise. In fact, their roadmap suggests that Beta2 is two months late. [09:39] RAOF: I was so much as told LTS means "release unstable because you have 3 years to fix it" [09:39] LSD|Ninja: firefox 2.0 to firefox 3.0 is not something you push onto a live, released distro [09:39] particularly not an LTS one [09:42] RAOF: but on their german download site they provide Ooo3c1 - even a deb package ftp://ftp.rz.tu-bs.de/pub/mirror/OpenOffice.org/extended/3.0.0rc1/OOo_3.0.0rc1_20080904_LinuxIntel_install_de_deb.tar.gz [09:57] RAOF: according to http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease30 the final will be available by September 16th, 2008 [10:03] what replaces xlibs-dev in intrepid? [10:14] what could be the cause of this: www.dupondje.be/screen.avi (very bad screen output) [10:33] dupondje: totem most likely [10:33] or the site but i saw it on another site this morning [10:34] getting bad vid in VLC / MythTV / ... [10:34] so its not the app :( [10:35] than its the site, some sites work fine i only saw it on your link above and another. but your link if you go further into it its not seem [10:36] further into it == let it play and it goes away atleast for me [10:37] huh ? [10:37] after 10 mins the screen is still bad :( [10:37] it keeps looking like that ... [10:38] I made that screen.avi, of my screen playing something ... [10:38] thats my crappy output :( [10:41] dupondje: mine clears up [10:42] mine not :( [10:42] give me a link to the site so i can see [10:43] link to what site ? [10:43] wtf [10:45] dupondje: where youu got that video, im assuming either you watched it on a site or you downloaded it from a site [10:45] unless you made it yourself [10:45] the video that I play ? [10:45] its just livetv from mythtv [10:45] but it doesn't matter [10:45] other video's are the same ... [10:45] same crappy output [10:46] are all these vidoes that are like that from mythtv? [10:47] no [10:47] even if I play it with vlc [10:47] its same output :( [10:48] mythtv is output for tv channels no? [10:49] also video ... [10:52] added Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" [10:52] and its solved now [10:52] mmmm [11:39] Hi, I did get random disconnections in 8.04 (both wired and unwired). Now I installed alpha5 and still have these disconnections. Any ideas? The output of lspci is at http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/lspci [11:40] what kind of disconnection? [11:40] hm, the network stops to work. [11:40] and you can't ping your default gateway? [11:41] !bug [11:41] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [11:41] I did not try. I cannot surf, my ssh connections stop to work and so on. Reacitivating the net via NetworkManager brings itup again [11:41] SwedeMike: I will try to ping the gateway next time [11:42] how long in between, and does it correlate to the dhcp lease time? [11:43] SwedeMike: I have a feeling that the time to disconnection is random (or at least not constant). Often when the computer is idling. How do I check if it happens with a dhcp lease time? [11:43] (i have a feeling it disconnects sooner here at work) [11:44] oki, so this happens at different network locations? [11:44] yes, at home and at work. Both wired and unwired. [11:46] SwedeMike: I dont really have any ideas of what commands to run to debug, but I happily try and post the output if you have any tips [11:46] do you get any messages in "dmesg" that might be related? [11:46] (I should probably say that I did not install alpha5 but run via the liveCD at the moment) [11:46] or in any logs in /var/log ?` [11:47] I'll have a check (just waiting for the next disconnection) [11:48] SwedeMike: the output of dmesg is at http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/dmesg if it helps [11:49] (and right now I am wired, but the wlan is also enabled in network-manager) [11:49] zniavre: I will post a bug as soon as I know what to actually write inthere [11:50] what is not easy ... [11:53] I'm not sure where to target the bug, intrepid? [12:07] I have Apha2 installed on my eeepc 701 $G. Can I upgrade online to alpha 5? [12:08] is it "update-manager -d" or just do a normal update/upgrade? [12:08] I should say Alpha4. [12:09] normal update [12:13] zniavre: OK, so now I made a bug report at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/267719 [12:13] Launchpad bug 267719 in ubuntu "random wired and unwired disconnection" [Undecided,New] [12:18] Heh, I get the same "RX ReassocResp" thing going on. It's really annoying. === Dedi is now known as dedi_away [12:20] thanks void^ [12:37] hi all [12:37] i have installed kubuntu 8.10 alpha 5, but now wich is the best way to update? === dedi_away is now known as Dedicated [12:48] please guys, i need just the update command, i think the one i use is wrong... [12:49] Notch-1: update-manager can update you [12:50] i see any kind of update-manager-... but no update-manager [12:51] what? [12:51] maybe i need to look another way... [12:51] oh you're running kde. You should have some kind of automatic gui updater somewhere [12:51] i found only update-manager-something ... [12:51] what is the "something"? [12:52] there is adept but it seem broken... [12:52] heh [12:52] !final [12:52] If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Intrepid. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. [12:52] Notch-1: you can run that command if you want [12:52] something, like -fd [12:53] what command? [12:53] the one ubottu just said [12:53] I have xserver-xorg-dev and libx11-dev installed, but still get configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! - any ideas? [12:53] i've done sudo su, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade [12:54] and now i can't log in [12:54] xorg crashes while loading... [12:54] even in the alpha 4 [12:54] thefish: I don't have a working intrepid atm, but in hardy I see xlibs-dev and xorg-dev [12:54] so is that a common bug or have i missed something? [12:55] Notch-1: you upgraded fine. You're experiencing a bug in alpha software now [12:55] cheers jrib - it seems xlibs-dev is replaced with libx11-dev in intrepid... [12:55] jrib: thanks, now i beleave :D [12:55] I have libx11-dev on hardy too thefish [12:57] thefish: what are you compiling? [12:57] jrib: knetworkmanager from svn [12:57] jrib: just another question: what's the difference with apt-get dist-upgrade and AFTER apt-get upgrade? it should work as well (not considering this bug) ? [12:58] thefish: if you do: sudo apt-get build-dep knetworkmanager you should get whatever it needs [12:58] Notch-1: see the 'dist-upgrade' description in 'man apt-get' [12:59] jrib: yes but i still don't understand :P [12:59]