[06:04] <kwwii> moin moin
[07:16] <rsc_> moin moin?
[07:16] <rsc_> :)
[07:24] <kwwii> good morning
[07:25] <rsc_> oh, right.
[07:25] <rsc_> what time is it there?
[07:25] <kwwii> 8:25 am
[07:26] <kwwii> there?
[07:28] <rsc_> well, 2:30 in the afternoon here in the Philippines.
[07:28] <rsc_> :)
[07:29] <kwwii> :-)
[14:43] <njpatel> kwwii: ping
[14:44]  * _MMA_ waves at Neil. :)
[14:44] <njpatel> _MMA_: hey dude
[14:44] <njpatel> :-)
[14:44] <njpatel> _MMA_: how are things?
[14:45] <_MMA_> Um, busy. Lots of "life" stuff.
[14:45] <_MMA_> Nothing dire. Just things to work through.
[14:45] <njpatel> cool
[14:47] <_MMA_> Ill bbl. Im gonna upgrade the lappy to Intrepid.
[14:47] <kwwii> njpatel: hey man
[14:48] <njpatel> kwwii: hey dude -- a quick question (which I think I've asked before): do you have hi-res (or at least 48x48) for applications-graphics & applications-games for Human icon theme?
[14:49] <njpatel> we need them for UNR as the launcher has to scale the 24x24, and they look bad
[14:50] <kwwii> njpatel: nope, sure don't
[14:50] <njpatel> dammit :-)
[14:50] <kwwii> the graphics icon is amazingly close the oxygen version
[14:50] <kwwii> I never realized we stole that :p
[14:50] <njpatel> hehe
[14:51] <njpatel> kwwii: any reason there's no hi-res?
[14:52]  * njpatel goes to find another orange icon theme
[14:53] <kwwii> njpatel: because we paid icon factory to make those and they wouldn't give us the files
[14:53] <njpatel> kwwii: oh, right
[14:53] <kwwii> njpatel: but, there is an effort started to make new icons
[14:54] <kwwii> but it just started, so don't expect anything there either :p
[14:54] <njpatel> kwwii: good to know :-)
[14:54] <njpatel> hehe
[14:54] <andreasn> njpatel: you need a orange icon set that have scalable (48x48 canvas) or High Res like 256x256?
[14:54] <njpatel> andreasn: 48x48 would do fine
[14:55] <njpatel> andreasn: png is fine
[14:55] <andreasn> njpatel: perhaps tangerine-icon-theme is your friend in that case
[14:55] <pwnguin> njpatel: ive been thinking about a wider community icon project
[14:55]  * pwnguin would prefer svg icons ;)
[14:55] <njpatel> andreasn: on hardy, tangerine has no category icons....are there updates?
[14:56] <njpatel> andreasn: and if so...where do I find the latest? :-)
[14:56] <njpatel> pwnguin: that would be cool. Human covers it okay, it's just these two category icons which seem to lack
[14:57] <andreasn> njpatel: it falls back on gnome-icon-theme that have those in all sizes needed, tangerine is just the orange folders + some other orange elements in some icons
[14:57] <pwnguin> i need to get my power cord back and test your netbook stuff some more
[14:58] <pwnguin> pngs are okay at netbook sizes, but my tablet is 14" and svgs do a better job ;)
[14:59] <andreasn> njpatel: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-icon-theme/trunk/scalable/categories/applications-games.svg?revision=1669&view=markup
[14:59] <andreasn> http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-icon-theme/trunk/scalable/categories/applications-graphics.svg?revision=1669&view=markup
[15:00] <njpatel> andreasn: right, thanks
[15:00] <njpatel> andreasn: I'm wondering why GtkIconTheme isn't giving me an icon from gnome instead
[15:00] <njpatel> as Human inherits from gnome too
[15:01] <njpatel> I think it finds the icon in Human 24x24 and just thinks that it'll be better to use that then a completely different icon
[15:01] <andreasn> njpatel: yeah, that's how it works I think
[15:01] <njpatel> andreasn: thanks, I'll see how it looks with the gnome icons
[15:09] <njpatel> pwnguin: running UNR on a 14" screen (i'm guessing it's a res > 1280x800) is not going to be fun :-)
[15:30] <pwnguin> why not?
[15:30] <pwnguin> it almost works quite well i find
[15:42] <rsc_> hey guys! :)
[15:42] <thorwil> hi rsc_
[15:47] <rsc_> oi, thorwil!
[15:47] <rsc_> :)
[15:47] <rsc_> http://dump.ambiescent.com/i/dust-mmc.jpg
[15:47] <rsc_> whatcha think?
[15:47] <rsc_> hehe
[15:47] <rsc_> (about the min-max-close buttons.)
[15:48] <thorwil> rsc_: the left edge is unclear
[15:49] <rsc_> left edge?
[15:49] <thorwil> the symbols are problematic as you see such arrow heads on scrollbar buttons
[15:49] <thorwil> rsc_: where the min button starts
[15:51] <rsc_> yeah.
[15:51] <rsc_> that was kinda the point.
[15:51] <rsc_> i figured it'd be something new, but not hindering the functionality much.
[15:51] <rsc_> I thought, at least :)
[15:59] <pwnguin> found in a text book explaining how dpi and lpi affect quality: "this book was printed at 150 DPI..." <followed by a graphic comparing an image at 300 dpi, 200 dpi and 150 dpi>>
[16:00] <thorwil> pwnguin: so they squeezed space by using a gravity field?
[16:05] <pwnguin> i think the idea was the source image was higher resolution
[16:06] <pwnguin> so you
[16:06] <rsc_> so was there any difference between 300 vs. 200 vs. 150?
[16:06] <pwnguin> no
[16:06] <rsc_> if the book was printed at 150, it should theoretically look the same.
[16:06] <pwnguin> they claimed there was, but it must take better eyes than I have
[16:07] <thorwil> rsc_: almost. but different means of down-sampling should lead to subtle differences
[16:07] <rsc_> hehe.
[16:07] <pwnguin> but a 300 dpi to 150 dpi should basically be fantastic
[18:21] <DanaG> My next laptop will be 1920x1200 at 15" -- nowadays, DPI scaling works pretty well.
[18:22] <dilomo> hay I have a question about laptops
[18:23] <dilomo> what's the best laptop for designer and a student( long battery life)
[18:36] <dilomo> hmmm
[19:51] <thorwil> welcome back _MMA_
[19:51]  * _MMA_ is still wrestling with Intrepid issues. Is on a temp machine.
[19:51] <_MMA_> But hi.
[19:54] <thorwil> well, i'm still wrestling with the countdown images :)