hggdhmrooney, ping00:58
mrooneyhggdh: hi!00:59
hggdhhi, I will sftp it over to xibiu01:01
hggdhmrooney, it is under /tmp/eeebotu01:06
hggdhmrooney, you will have to adjust the settings01:07
mrooneyhggdh: okay!01:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267612 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "green lines when playing video" [Undecided,New]01:22
dupondjeany id's ?01:22
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thekorngood morning :)07:30
nullackPing seb128 : I havent bugged the ffmpeg gstreamer plugin update as were involved in improving the process. Would you like to me help with writing a freeze exception rationale for this?08:32
seb128nullack: no08:32
seb128I've no clue of why ffmpeg should be updated08:33
seb128and I've too much to do without having to work on that08:33
nullackseb128: Im talking about the gstreamer plugin for ffmpeg08:33
nullackYou did the good and ugly plugins recently08:33
seb128gst-ffmpeg uses the system ffmpeg on debian and ubuntu08:33
seb128you probably want ffmpeg updated08:33
nullackSo to upgrade the plugin we need to upgrade all of ffmpeg?08:34
seb128not sure what plugins you want to update08:34
seb128but if you want to update the ffmpeg codecs you need to update ffmpeg-debian08:34
nullackThe gstreamer plugin for ffmpeg08:34
seb128it's not clear what you are trying to get changed there08:35
seb128what is the issue exactly?08:36
seb128well, you can update gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg08:36
nullackGstreamer released updates to their plugin which fixes numerous bufs08:36
seb128I'm not sure it'll bring anything though08:36
nullackI am08:36
seb128the package is built using --with-system-ffmpeg08:36
seb128are you sure those plugins are used in this case?08:36
nullackIm not sure about build specifics on Ubuntu but I am sure of improvements the new revision brings to our users08:37
seb128the ffmpeg-debian ones should be used rather08:37
seb128did you try it?08:37
Drag0nLordanyone ran into the MP-Bios Timer Not Connected To IO_APIC error?08:37
seb128it looks like you are advocating for a new ffmpeg08:37
nullackMate I had hoped to not have to advocate the whole thing, just the gstreamer part08:38
seb128but since gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg uses ffmpeg-debian and not ithe gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg copy on debian and ubuntu upgrading gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg will not likely achieve what you want08:38
nullackBut....ffmpeg is very old in the intrepid repos08:38
nullackWhos the maintainer of ffmpeg in Ubuntu? Not you I assume Sebastien?08:39
seb128not me no08:39
seb128I suggested you to ping siretart the other day no?08:39
nullackYes I havent seen him so far08:39
seb128you can also try to talk to slomo but I think he's on holidays08:39
seb128maybe mail them08:39
nullackRight, stariek and slomo08:39
nullackThanks Sebastien, have a good day08:39
seb128you're welcome08:40
seb128you might also want to start a discussion on the ubuntu-devel list about ffmpeg being outdated in ubuntu08:40
nullackI'll do that too, good suggestion08:40
Drag0nLordno one with the MP-BIOS error: Timer not connected to IO-APIC?08:41
Drag0nLordi recently upgraded to Intrepid, and had a question about that particular bug08:42
seb128no but maybe search on launchpad08:43
Drag0nLordsearched for hours....found alot08:43
RAOFDrag0nLord: No, although my laptop won't boot on battery.  Your error's probably easy to search for.08:43
Drag0nLordi'm on a desktop pc08:44
Drag0nLordi was going to mention, that after upgrading to Intrepid, i saw something a bit different08:44
Drag0nLordwithout using any workarounds, straight after upgrade, i notice that the IO-APIC is actually found in Intrepid08:45
dholbachgood morning08:45
RAOFMorning dholbach.  I'm obviously home early!08:45
dholbachhi RAOF08:46
* dholbach is late today :-)08:46
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mrooneySo let's say Intrepid has very slow wireless which often drops, and ath5k_pci uses inordinate amounts of CPU, which package might that be? Just linux?14:08
Hobbseewhatever distributes that driver, which is probably linux, yes.14:13
hggdhHobbsee, ping -- need help with bug 26776314:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267763 in debian "Evolution shows (picture) attachments from previously, just seen, emails" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26776314:53
jjessedon't cry i didn't mean to scare you14:56
Hobbseehggdh: as long as it isn't that nutcase who doesn't understand paragraphs...14:59
hggdhHobbsee, well, in terms... its mesself, so one might look at it as a nutcase15:00
Hobbseehggdh: you don't hold a candle to the bug reports i saw earlier....15:00
hggdhHobbsee, it seems I cannot add a bug watch to Gnome...15:00
hggdhHobbsee, which bug? now I am curious15:01
Hobbseehggdh: looks like someone else has15:01
hggdhHobbsee, no that was myself. I wanted to add a gnome watch, and I cannot get it to work (requires a distribution)15:02
Hobbseehggdh: as for why it didn't work for you, i've no idea.  the upstream section tends to confuse the hell out of me, so i actively avoid it :)15:02
Hobbseeoh - i think you wanted the other option, then.15:02
hggdhwhich one? they changed LP, and I am lost now :-(15:03
Hobbseei'm not sure.  i always get lost there nwo too15:03
Hobbseealso affects project, i think15:03
hggdhSaint pedro_  did it...15:03
Hobbseeyou can't just dump the URL in the the bottom half, and let it figure itself out?15:04
HobbseeBug #26732815:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267328 in consolekit "console-kit-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash() (not #259639)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26732815:04
hggdhI tried, but the blasted page errored out15:04
Hobbseehggdh: welcome to launchpad...15:04
Hobbseehggdh: although i've no idea why it worked for pedro after, then.15:05
Hobbseehggdh: see ^15:05
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* Hobbsee has already changed the description and such.15:05
hggdhHobbsee, saw the bug... succeeded on reading the first two lines, and then gave up15:06
hggdhSaint pedro_ , how did you add the bug watch on the bug?15:06
pedro_hggdh: to which one ?15:06
pedro_bug 267763?15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267763 in debian "Evolution shows (picture) attachments from previously, just seen, emails" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26776315:07
pedro_i didn't15:07
pedro_Filed here by:   Adam Buchbinder <-15:07
hggdhyes... just saw it...15:08
hggdhOK, no matter. How does one add a bug watch for Gnome nowadays?15:08
pedro_same way as before, I've added a few this morning didn't encounter any issues15:09
hggdhalso affects distribution?15:09
Ampelbeinhggdh: also affects project15:09
pedro_no, also affects project15:09
seb128hggdh: that's the same label for ages in launchpad15:10
hggdhseb128, I just woke up, I guess I am still half off :-(15:11
seb128hggdh: good morning then ;-)15:11
hggdh(meaning the upper half)15:11
* hggdh *knew* the bed was the best place for today... :-(15:12
hggdhanyways, now to earn a bit of money... see you all later.15:13
* pochu waves at pedro_ 15:20
pedro_hey pochu!15:20
* pedro_ hugs pochu15:20
* pochu hugs pedro_ back :)15:21
pochupedro_: how are you doing?15:22
pedro_pochu: I'm great, how about you, how's the university going?15:22
pochupedro_: just finished my exams today :) so I'm able to contribute to Ubuntu again15:23
seb128pochu: want some updates to do? ;-)15:23
pedro_bonjour seb128!15:23
pochuseb128: why not? :)15:23
seb128hey pedro_15:24
pochuseb128: I'm trying to make a patch for pygobject right now but I can do updates too15:24
seb128pochu: what needs patching?15:24
pochuseb128: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55023515:24
ubottuGnome bug 550235 in general "Please allow a libpyglib per python version" [Normal,Unconfirmed]15:24
pochulool made a patch but it's not optimal15:25
seb128pochu: lool fixed that in the ubuntu package already no?15:25
pochuyeah, but in /usr/lib/pygobject/ which means things linking to it will have an RPATH15:26
pochuso upstream prefers something like /usr/lib/libpyglib-python2.X.so or something like that15:26
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bdmurrayAwsoonn_: Do you have something planned for Thursday?  I'd really us to take a look at the Confirmed bugs without a package and would like to run it on the 11th.16:23
mrooneybdmurray: while you are here, do you have any thoughts on what the next step is for bug 22479716:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 224797 in migration-assistant "Hardy migration assistant offers to import "Gaim" settings instead of "Pidgin"" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22479716:24
mrooneyit seems poor from a QA standpoint, and probably not that hard to fix, either16:25
bdmurraymrooney: update the title?16:25
mrooneybdmurray: okay, to include Intrepid?16:25
bdmurraymrooney: right, and I'd also ping evand in #ubuntu-installer since he assigned it to himself16:25
mrooneyhe has assigned a lot of migration-assistant bugs to himself :)16:26
bdmurraymrooney: well, he did write it. ;)16:26
* mrooney waves at asac_16:26
mrooneybdmurray: okay I will do that. I thought though that putting the release in the title is not the proper way. doesn't seb128 always complain about that16:27
* asac_ waves back16:27
mrooneyor maybe that was putting the application name in the title that I am thinking of...16:27
bdmurraymrooney: okay, then just remove the hardy bit - I'm indifferent.  It just seems misleading as it stand16:27
mrooneyI'll add it to the title, I think I was confused between release name and app name :)16:28
seb128mrooney: putting the version is the title is proper way when a bug is specific about this version, not when you have a bug on a version and no clue about other versions or didn't try those16:28
seb128ie "hardy to intrepid nautilus upgrade bug" is a proper title16:28
mrooneyseb128: okay, I guess I will put Hardy/Intrepid. it obviously doesn't apply to older releases since Gaim was not the incorrect name then16:29
seb128mrooney: if the bug happens on intrepid put no title16:29
seb128no version in the title16:29
mrooneyokay, thanks bdmurray and seb128, I think I got it all sorted out!16:39
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Awsoonn_bdmurray: Sounds like a great idea to me.17:08
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bdmurrayAwsoonn: okay, great I'll set that up for the 11th then17:12
KonstigtBug 153801 isn't set to any package. I would like to change it to tvtime and mark it as confirmed but I'm unsure if that's correct. St├ęphane Loeuillet is claiming on 2007-10-31 that it isn't tvtimes fault but I disagree.17:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 153801 in ubuntu "Cannot find "/dev/video0"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15380117:18
bdmurrayogasawara: bug 266989 seems to be a regression from Hardy to Intrepid17:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 266989 in linux "Epson 2450 scanner not seen on firewire kernel 2.6.27" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26698917:32
ogasawarabdmurray: ok, I'll take a look17:34
bdmurrayogasawara: wrt fixed-2.6.27 should that only be used if it was confirmed broken in 2.6.26?17:34
ogasawarabdmurray: right17:35
ogasawarabdmurray: no sorry, I read that too fast17:35
ogasawarabdmurray: fixed-2.6.27 is for any bugs fixed with 2.6.27 regardless if broken on 2.6.2617:35
bdmurrayogasawara: okay, thanks17:36
bdmurraypedro_: Do you think bug 221759 is gnome or xorg related?18:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 221759 in ubuntu "User is logged out when a numpad number key is pressed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22175918:12
seb128[ 4490.491791] Xgl[6988]: segfault at 000001a6 eip 0818db66 esp bfc5b000 error 418:16
seb128that's an xgl bug18:16
seb128xserver-xgl which is deprecated in intrepid18:17
bdmurrayYou think all those people had it installed?18:17
seb128you can ask but one guy wrote that and the next one confirmed that uninstalling xgl fixed the issue18:18
bdmurraythekorn: Is there a bug refresh function in python-launchpad-bugs?18:30
thekornbdmurray, no, unfortunatly not,18:30
thekornthere is a open bug about this,18:31
thekornbut I never found a smart way to fix this18:31
thekornbdmurray, it's bug 13883718:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 138837 in python-launchpad-bugs "RFE: bug.changed should be empty after running bug.commit() successfully" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13883718:33
thekornat least it is related18:33
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bdmurraythekorn: hmm, okay18:39
bdmurraythekorn: what is the status of the nominations branch?18:39
thekornbdmurray, no big progress in the last few days,18:43
thekornso committing nominations requests and accepting them does not work yet18:43
thekornone problem where I got stuck was that Nominations requested by a driver of a project are auto-accepted18:44
thekornand I have no clue how to reflect this scheme18:45
bdmurrayPersonally, I'm less concerned with requesting than accepting.18:48
thekornok, I will have a look at it again in a bit18:51
Ampelbeinhmm. what is the right package for bugs in xkb? like bug #224649 ?18:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 224649 in control-center "limited to 4 alternative keyboard layouts - any reason?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22464918:54
Ampelbeinis it just xorg? or xserver-xorg-input-keyboard?18:57
ograAmpelbein, well, you answered your own question *with* your first question :)19:04
* ogra would suggest kbd 19:04
ograoh, you said xkb ... i read kbd :)19:05
thekornbdmurray, ok, just read the code again, I think I have a good idea how to support nominations, I will do some coding after a break19:06
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chrisccoulsonare we using launchpad to track issues with the Intrepid NewHuman theme?21:14
chrisccoulsoni've just seen a new report describing a problem with the theme21:14
chrisccoulsonbut i've also seen this comment suggesting that issues with the theme should be discussed on the wiki page: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/human-theme/+bug/243957/comments/1221:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 243957 in human-theme "Some text in intrepid's new default theme is unreadable" [High,Triaged]21:15
seb128chrisccoulson: using launchpad is always a good idea21:17
seb128chrisccoulson: you might want to note the issue on the wiki too if some team uses that too but milestoned bugs are what are used to track issue in ubuntu21:18
chrisccoulsonthanks seb128. i was looking specifically at bug 267883, which is actually a known problem according to this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/NewHumanTesting21:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267883 in openoffice.org "Ibex - Hints in OpenOffice with NewHuman theme are unreadable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26788321:18
seb128chrisccoulson: could be, still better to have a milestoned bug on launchpad for tracking21:19
seb128dunno about this specific issue but I'm not working on art things21:19
chrisccoulsonno problem! thanks21:19
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yusuf_hi, have only 1 month experience with ubuntu, would love to help, where should I start?21:49
crimsunyusuf_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs is a good place to start reading.21:49
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jdstrandhi! I'm trying to get the url right for listing all In Progress bugs for a particular team or person21:59
jdstrandI tried: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs-text?orderby=status&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS21:59
jdstrandbut that doesn't seem to work. this does though: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs-text?orderby=status&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS21:59
jdstrandI'm not a p-l-b guru yet, so not sure where to find info on how to do that...22:00
bdmurrayjdstrand: there are no text listings for teams22:01
jdstrandthat's a bummer22:01
jdstrandbdmurray: is there another way to accomplish the same type of thing?22:01
bdmurrayjdstrand: use the html listing?22:01
jdstrandyou mean screen-scrape?22:01
jdstrand(I was trying to avoid that)22:02
bdmurrayI guess I'm confused are you using py-lp-b or not?22:02
yusuf_I have have had a look at the url provided but i am still lost, could u give me an easy task to start with22:02
jdstrandbdmurray: I am before using p-l-b yet. I looked in /usr/share/doc/p-l-b/examples and saw the bugs-text example22:02
jdstrandbdmurray: so thought I could adapt it (ta-bug.py specifically)22:03
bdmurrayjdstrand: if you are using py-lp-b - ConnectBugList("html") should do it22:03
jdstrandbdmurray: oh right. now I know what you mean. is the api for p-l-b documented conveniently?22:04
jdstrandbdmurray: I always struggle to come up with the right invocation, etc22:05
bdmurrayand https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev/python-launchpad-bugs/Bug22:05
jdstrandbdmurray: oh those are excellent. thanks!22:05
bdmurrayjdstrand: no problem22:06
dvhartI'm trying submit a proper bug report against evolution, but when it crashes, apport doesnt start... how do I get apport to pay attention?22:30
dvhartI've found the command... but there is nothing in/var/crash22:31
dvhartdupondje, that documentation on the web says it ought to start automatically after an application crash?22:33
dupondjeit SHOULD :)22:34
Ampelbeindvhart: try running with G_DEBUG=fatal_criticals evolution22:34
dvhartAmpelbein, still nothing22:35
dvhartand /var/crash is empty22:35
dvhartI ran once in gdb and got a bt22:35
dvhartI've found the same bug in launchpad, but it was closed because the submitter didn't provide all the apport details...22:35
dvhartso I'm reluncant to proceed without it22:36
bdmurraydvhart: wheich release are you on?22:36
dvhartUbuntu 8.04.122:36
bdmurraydvhart: apport is disabled since that is a stable release - it is only turned on by default in development releases22:36
* dvhart wouldn't call hardy stable.... but I digress, I know what you mean :-)22:37
dvhartis it possibly for me to turn it on?22:37
bdmurraydvhart: you can find instructions regarding enabling apport at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed22:37
bdmurrayDisregard the whole proposed bit22:37
dvhartah ok22:38
dvhartwas wondering what that had to do with it :-)22:39
bdmurrayyeah, the only important bit is enabling apport22:40
dvhartshall I still run with fatal_criticals?22:40
dvhartor try without options first?22:40
bdmurraytry w/o first22:40
dvhartnice thanks!22:41
dvhartheh, ok and I see my bug is now reported twice by others22:42
dvhartthe context looked different when I read them before22:43
dvhartbut the text summary apport used is identical22:43
dvhartthanks for the help folkds22:44
* dvhart disables apport22:44
Ampelbeindvhart: if the context looks too different, file the bug anyway. it can still be marked a duplicate later after reviewing the stacktraces.22:45
dvhartdone, thanks for the assistance22:54
wgrantbdmurray: Warning: that "thomas delbeke" that you replied to on launchpad-users is the one who filed a bug with a 2000 word paragraph yesterday asserting that it wasn't a duplicate of another when it clearly was, and that it was somehow a security issue because he typed his sudo password somewhere where it wasn't hidden. I'm not sure you've much hope.23:12
bdmurraywgrant: hmmm, thanks for the info23:13
wgrantIt was an impressive wall of text.23:14
bdmurrayI can only imagine23:14
owhI'm looking at bug #113919 which applies to Hardy - and earlier. The suggested patch to fix is now in Intrepid. How do I request a backport so that Hardy users can benefit?23:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 113919 in dosfstools "fsck crashes checking external FAT drive" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11391923:52
owhOr do I just create a new backport request and ignore that this bug exists?23:53

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