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CIA-44 | ubiquity: superm1 * r2796 ubiquity/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Update check(s) for pygtk-codegen-2.0 in the different configure and Makefile's to instead use pygobject-codegen-2.0. This is the preferred check to be using now since pygtk-codegen-2.0 has been dropped | 08:00 |
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CIA-44 | ubiquity: superm1 * r2797 ubiquity/debian/changelog: shorten changelog entry to 80 columns | 08:00 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: superm1 * r2798 ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/mythbuntu_ui.py: minor tweaks to mythbuntu graphics driver installation routines | 08:01 |
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CIA-44 | installation-guide: cjwatson * r432 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog en/appendix/preseed.xml): Document pkgsel/update-policy. | 13:46 |
cr3 | at what phase does /target/etc/apt/sources.list-setup replace sources.list? | 15:07 |
cr3 | is there a way to hook into the installer when there's an error to report the failure somehow? | 15:07 |
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cjwatson | pkgsel puts sources.list.apt-setup back in place just before installing pkgsel/include items and language packs | 15:28 |
cjwatson | there's no such hook for the alternate installer, I'm afraid | 15:28 |
cr3 | cjwatson: could you suggest a way for me to detect installation failures somehow? | 15:42 |
cjwatson | the only way I know of is timeout | 15:47 |
cjwatson | that's what the Debian d-i test suite does, last I checked | 15:47 |
cr3 | cjwatson: which source package might contain this test suite for inspiration? | 15:55 |
cjwatson | I don't know that it's packaged, but svn://svn.debian.org/svn/d-i/trunk/scripts/digress | 15:56 |
cr3 | cheers! | 15:56 |
davmor2 | evand: ping | 16:03 |
evand | davmor2: pong | 16:04 |
davmor2 | evand: did you manage to get m-a working on 64bit I've not had time to test m-a this round at all | 16:05 |
evand | davmor2: negative. I haven't had time to work on m-a yet this cycle. Hopefully I'll be able to tackle that bug before release. | 16:06 |
davmor2 | evand: okay cool have you heard anything from xuvilon? | 16:07 |
evand | yes, actually | 16:08 |
evand | 16:40:24 <xivulon> hi evan | 16:08 |
evand | 16:40:44 <xivulon> I have tried intrepid but I have problems booting up within wubi | 16:08 |
evand | 16:41:14 <xivulon> In windows I get device busy when mounting via ntfs | 16:08 |
evand | 16:41:24 <xivulon> ^in real hw | 16:08 |
evand | 16:41:52 <xivulon> in vm I get kernel error | 16:08 |
evand | 16:42:12 <xivulon> could you please give it a quick go and let me know if you experience anything similar? | 16:08 |
evand | caught that this morning from yesterday | 16:08 |
evand | haven't had a moment to give it a go yet though | 16:08 |
davmor2 | cool :) Must be busy :) | 16:09 |
evand | yeah :/ | 16:09 |
davmor2 | which version is it I'll give it a go tomorrow morning for you if you want? | 16:09 |
evand | http://wubi-installer.org/devel/minefield/Wubi-8.10-rev507.exe | 16:11 |
evand | much appreciated | 16:11 |
davmor2 | evand: dling now :) | 16:12 |
davmor2 | slowly | 16:12 |
evand | heh | 16:13 |
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davmor2 | evand: it's very slow 314byte per second | 16:13 |
evand | yikes | 16:14 |
evand | thanks Sourceforge. | 16:14 |
davmor2 | probably just a glitch | 16:15 |
cjwatson | evand: a bzr branch for usb-creator would be really useful, in order to conveniently produce patches for it | 16:17 |
mrooney | evand: ping? | 16:29 |
evand | cjwatson: will do. I have a number of changes already going in later today as a release (+ MIR), so I'll push the branch then, once I have everything cleaned up. | 16:29 |
* cjwatson floods evand with usb-creator bugs instead :) | 16:29 | |
evand | mrooney: pong | 16:29 |
evand | cjwatson: yikes! Be gentle :) | 16:29 |
mrooney | evand: I just wanted to see if bug 224797 was still on your radar | 16:32 |
mrooney | oh, no ubottu here :) | 16:32 |
evand | mrooney: thanks for the reminder. I haven't had much time for m-a this cycle, but that should be an easy one to fix. Noted. | 16:34 |
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mrooney | evand: okay great, thanks! | 16:35 |
mrooney | evand: on a tangent, are there any plans to migrate certain applications by copying their ~/.folder, such as ~/.mozilla? it seems like it would be easier and also improve the migration experience as in firefox you would also have all your extensions, layout, cookies, history, et cetera | 16:37 |
mrooney | obviously, only for linux migrations I assume | 16:38 |
evand | mrooney: it needs to be able to merge settings as what happens if you have Firefox in Windows and Firefox in Linux (there are more common use cases) | 16:39 |
evand | ugh, which reminds me. Firefox importing will need to be rewritten to support the new bookmarks db format. | 16:44 |
mrooney | yeah, I gave migration-assistant a triaging hug recently, and found a bunch of similar bugs | 16:44 |
evand | much appreciated | 16:45 |
mrooney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/migration-assistant/+bug/220064, I assume those are what you are referring to? | 16:45 |
evand | indeed | 16:45 |
mrooney | ahh so those are all probably firefox 3 users? and m-a only supports firefox 2 currently? | 16:46 |
evand | hard to say with any certainty as I don't have their log files or bookmarks files, but yes, I imagine they're using firefox 3, which m-a does not support yet. | 16:47 |
mrooney | okay, let me put on my triaging hat! | 16:49 |
mrooney | do you want any help with the gaim one? I have never actually created a debdiff or anything but am eager to learn the process, and I am a CS major so programming itself is something I can handle | 16:50 |
evand | yeah, if you want to take a stab at it, by all means go ahead | 16:51 |
evand | bzr branches are preferred if you're doing any kind of major work, but debdiffs are fine | 16:52 |
evand | https://code.launchpad.net/~evand/migration-assistant/trunk for the former | 16:53 |
* evand should really move that to ~installer-team | 16:53 | |
mrooney | oh boy if I can just do the work in source and let someone else package and release it, that's even easier :P | 16:54 |
evand | oh, it's all in source. The packaging is already done so you shouldn't have to touch anything in debian/ | 16:55 |
mrooney | evand: is the UI part in that code, or is that somewhere else? | 16:58 |
evand | debian-installer makes use of the ma-ask and ma-apply files which generate UI through debconf questions. Ubiquity makes use of both of those files as well, but has its own UI for migration-assistant | 17:00 |
evand | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/annotate/2798?file_id=README-20051205083553-550dab3cb68ad622 for more details on how ubiquity uses debian-installer components like migration-assistant | 17:02 |
mrooney | evand: hm, is it something as simple as http://dpaste.com/76681/ , or is it more complicated? | 17:09 |
evand | I believe the accounts.xml is stored elsewhere as well | 17:12 |
superm1 | evand, after you sort out that missing preseed_command in ubiquity, would you be able to do an upload for it? The GTK frontend should be fixed and working again after the diffs I added this weekend. | 17:12 |
evand | superm1: definitely and thank you | 17:13 |
superm1 | evand, great, no problem | 17:14 |
mrooney | evand: oh, do you mean functionality wise? I was just concerned with the naming problem, as it seems to function fine for me | 17:14 |
evand | mrooney: it's able to import from Pidgin? That would be quite surprising. | 17:16 |
mrooney | evand: yeah. it looks like you look for ~/.gaim and if that fails, use ~/.purple | 17:17 |
mrooney | yeah, in gaim_import_gaim | 17:18 |
mrooney | which does indeed contain the accounts.xml that it looks for | 17:19 |
CIA-44 | oem-config: cjwatson * r526 oem-config/ (build/ltmain.sh configure configure.ac): bump to 1.49 | 17:23 |
mrooney | evand: I assume you wrote that code that adds that fallback to ~/.purple? was that not to handle Pidgin? | 17:28 |
evand | oh, I had forgotten about that | 17:29 |
evand | good cll | 17:30 |
evand | call* | 17:30 |
CIA-44 | oem-config: cjwatson * r527 oem-config/ (12 files in 7 dirs): | 17:34 |
CIA-44 | oem-config: Update check for python-codegen-2.0 to instead use | 17:34 |
CIA-44 | oem-config: pygobject-codegen-2.0. The former disappeared as of pygtk | 17:34 |
CIA-44 | oem-config: 2.13.0-0ubuntu1 in favor of this. (From the same change in ubiquity by | 17:34 |
CIA-44 | oem-config: Mario Limonciello.) | 17:34 |
CIA-44 | migration-assistant: evand * r92 migration-assistant.trunk/ (debian/changelog import.c search-items.c): Rename Gaim to Pidgin. Thanks Mike Rooney (LP: #224797). | 17:37 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2799 ubiquity/debian/changelog: spelling | 17:37 |
evand | mrooney: much appreciated ^ | 17:37 |
mrooney | evand: no problem! how does one test a change like that? | 17:37 |
mrooney | do you have to build a new ISO and test it in a VM or something? | 17:38 |
evand | the easiest way would be to bzr checkout or branch migration-assistant trunk on a live cd, then run make and copy the resulting binaries to /usr/bin | 17:40 |
mrooney | evand: oh, how clever! | 17:40 |
evand | I generally make a source package (debuild -S) in the bzr tree, then copy that to ~/archive, then run dpkg-scansources . in that directory, then add deb-src file:///home/evan/archive ./ to d-i/sources.list in my ubiquity bzr branch, and then run debuild in the root of that branch. | 17:42 |
evand | then scp the resulting debs onto the livecd and install ubiquity and ubiquity-frontend-gtk | 17:42 |
evand | but that's slightly more involved | 17:42 |
mrooney | :) | 17:43 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: evand * r2800 ubiquity/ (d-i/lists/any debian/changelog debian/ubiquity.install-any): | 18:02 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: Added preseed_command from the preseed package in support of changes to | 18:02 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: partman-base. | 18:02 |
CIA-44 | oem-config: cjwatson * r528 oem-config/ (d-i/update-control debian/changelog debian/control): | 18:43 |
CIA-44 | oem-config: Build-depend on python-gobject-dev (>= 2.15.1) for | 18:43 |
CIA-44 | oem-config: pygobject-codegen-2.0. | 18:43 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2801 ubiquity/ (d-i/update-control debian/changelog debian/control): | 18:47 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: Build-depend on python-gobject-dev (>= 2.15.1) for | 18:47 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: pygobject-codegen-2.0. | 18:47 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: evand * r2802 ubiquity/debian/po/ (79 files): debconf-updatepo | 19:15 |
sharrell | I am trying to finish up a preseed network install and everything is working correctly except for the root password, I am using this line: "d-i passwd/root-password-crypted password *" but it leaves a directory listing in the password field in my /etc/shadow. Anyone have any ideas? Is my syntax wrong? | 19:16 |
sharrell | This seems like a bug, but I could not find it anywhere | 19:16 |
sharrell | or I am just doing it wrong... :P | 19:17 |
cjwatson | sharrell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=450425; you can probably work around it with a suitable preseed/early_command script | 19:18 |
cjwatson | (it's fixed in intrepid) | 19:18 |
sharrell | thank you | 19:18 |
cjwatson | a locked root password is the default; do you actually need to set it explicitly? | 19:19 |
sharrell | I want it locked, I just don't want it to ask me, trying to do unattended installs | 19:20 |
CIA-44 | oem-config: cjwatson * r529 oem-config/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.49 | 19:21 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: evand * r2803 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): | 19:21 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: apt-setup | 19:21 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: 1:0.37ubuntu4, grub-installer 1.32ubuntu3, user-setup 1.20ubuntu6. | 19:21 |
cjwatson | sharrell: we don't ask for the root password by default, though ... | 19:21 |
sharrell | oh | 19:21 |
cjwatson | we ask for the *user* password | 19:21 |
sharrell | so I can just comment out that line? | 19:21 |
cjwatson | should be able to, yes | 19:21 |
sharrell | ok thank you! | 19:22 |
sharrell | I appreciate your help | 19:22 |
cjwatson | no problem | 19:22 |
cjwatson | sharrell: also, if you're trying to port your preseed file to Debian, then 'd-i passwd/root-login boolean false' would be sufficient (that's the default in Ubuntu); you don't need to preseed the root-password* questions there either if you do that | 19:24 |
sharrell | thats great | 19:27 |
CIA-44 | ubiquity: evand * r2804 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.9.12 | 19:31 |
sharrell | oh | 19:34 |
sharrell | now I realize why I do this, I need to create a root account | 19:34 |
sharrell | because I am not creating any users, I am using cfengine to hookup ubuntu to my ldap server after the fact | 19:34 |
sharrell | so in effect I don't want a root login or a user login | 19:34 |
sharrell | so that is why I wanted to create a root account and give it a non-password | 19:35 |
cjwatson | oh, huh, I see | 19:37 |
cjwatson | I think I'd have done that by creating a less powerful dummy account and deleting it later | 19:37 |
cjwatson | then if something goes wrong there's less damage | 19:37 |
cjwatson | but your way should be workable too | 19:38 |
xivulon | evand, ping | 20:49 |
evand | xivulon: pong | 21:08 |
xivulon | hi evan, did you see my msg yesterday night re booting problems in intrepid? | 21:09 |
xivulon | I cannot boot at all in vm (kernel crash) and on real hardware I cannot mount ntfs devices (strange device busy error even though there is no hint in /proc/mounts & co) | 21:10 |
xivulon | so am having problems testing 8.10 | 21:10 |
evand | indeed, though I've been focused on other work today and have not had a chance to test it myself (complicated by the fact that my Windows VMs are in vmware which is very broken) | 21:11 |
evand | but davmor2 said he would test | 21:11 |
xivulon | does the ntfs error ring any bell by any chance? | 21:14 |
evand | not offhand, no | 21:14 |
xivulon | I can mount ext3 no probs, when I use mount -t ntfs I get "no such device", when I use mount.ntfs I get "device busy" (or something similar) | 21:15 |
xivulon | the ntfs partition should be clean | 21:15 |
evand | odd | 21:26 |
xivulon | gets even more interesting on vm... | 21:28 |
evand | regarding the kernel crashes, perhaps talk to cking or someone else in -kernel about it? | 21:29 |
CarlFK | cjwatson: "reducing it to a non-enormous test case" - would 2 wgets, 1 qemu and no pressed be good? | 21:45 |
xivulon | I'll try to catch cking tomorrow, basically in virtualbox I get into an endless loop with the following messages http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotxppausedvirturu1.png | 21:48 |
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