[10:32] <gnomefreak> anyone else see n-m crash on loading gnome on intrepid
[10:48] <asac> gnomefreak: the applet?
[10:48] <asac> or the daemon?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> applet i think but give me a sec
[10:49] <gnomefreak> im assuming the applet since i stayed connected
[10:49] <gnomefreak> but im getting bug
[10:50] <gnomefreak> it is applet
[10:50] <gnomefreak> bug 267680
[10:50] <gnomefreak> oh damn
[10:51] <gnomefreak> stack shows nothing
[10:52]  * asac looks
[10:53] <asac> gnomefreak: can you try to retrace that CoreDump locally?
[10:53] <asac> e.g. isntall the -dbgsym packages
[10:53] <asac> then run apport-unpack
[10:53] <armin76> asac: bumb!
[10:53] <asac> and gdb -c CoreDump /usr/bin/nm-applet
[10:53] <asac> bt
[10:53] <asac> armin76: what needs to be bumped
[10:53] <asac> ?
[10:53] <armin76> all!
[10:53] <gnomefreak> can try in a few just need to finish what im doing
[10:54] <asac> armin76: give me some examples ;)
[10:54] <armin76> google chrome! :P
[10:54] <asac> armin76: oh ... now i see ;)
[10:55] <asac> http://blogs.technet.com/robert_hensing/archive/2008/09/03/breaking-out-of-the-chrome-sandbox-2-interesting-vulns-in-24-ho
[10:55] <asac> http://blogs.technet.com/robert_hensing/archive/2008/09/03/breaking-out-of-the-chrome-sandbox-2-interesting-vulns-in-24-hours-got-ie8.aspx
[10:55] <asac> urs-got-ie8.aspx
[10:55] <asac> shit
[10:55] <asac> http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/google/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210500290
[10:56] <asac> ^^ first security issues in chrome ;)
[10:58] <armin76> you fix them
[11:00] <asac> armin76: the first has been fixed in safari weeks ago
[11:00] <asac> i now wonder how things flow back to webkit and others :/
[11:01] <asac> http://www.webproworld.com/internet-security-discussion-forum/72167-google-chrome-security-vulnerabilities.html
[11:05]  * gnomefreak brb i need to smoke i cant remember shit
[11:11] <gnomefreak> history | less
[11:11] <gnomefreak> oh damnit
[11:35] <armin76> fail
[11:45] <gnomefreak> it did fail i spelled it wrong in term
[11:54] <gnomefreak> its not working
[11:54] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:57] <gnomefreak> apport-unpack fails it seems
[11:58] <gnomefreak> using /usr/bin/apport-unpack and just apport-unpack  (no need for sudo i cp'ed it and changed permissions on the copy)
[11:58]  * gnomefreak has idea
[12:00] <gnomefreak> that doesnt make sense. if i use <sudo chomd a+x file> it still has sudo permissions if i use <chmod a+x file> it fails to change permissions
[12:01] <gnomefreak> chmod: changing permissions of `_usr_bin_nm-applet.1000.crash': Operation not permitted    is the error
[12:19] <asac> gnomefreak: you need to run that on the .crash file
[12:19] <asac> gnomefreak: if you download the CoreDump.gz
[12:19] <asac> you just need to gunzip that
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:19] <asac> and run gdb on that result
[12:26] <gnomefreak> its | 2&1 to pipe to a file
[12:26] <gnomefreak> right?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> its dont look right
[12:27] <asac> 2>&1
[12:27] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^
[12:28] <gnomefreak> ah thanks
[12:37] <gnomefreak> asac: still nothing (gdb) bt
[12:37] <gnomefreak> #0  0xb7568699 in ?? ()
[12:38] <gnomefreak> thats with every debug package
[12:45] <asac> gnomefreak: ok so you ran gdb -c CoreDump /usr/bin/nm-applet?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:45] <asac> gnomefreak: then try to reproduce it with nm-applet run in debugger
[12:45] <asac> gdb /usr/bin/nm-applet
[12:45] <asac> (gdb) run
[12:45] <gnomefreak> i cant
[12:46] <asac> once it crashes you can bt full
[12:46] <gnomefreak> it happened on login to gnome
[12:46] <asac> yeah you can ;)
[12:46] <asac> ah
[12:46] <asac> ill think a bit
[12:46] <asac> at best do a full reboot
[12:46] <gnomefreak> ok
[12:46] <gnomefreak> i will when im done so i dont forget what im doing ;)
[13:16] <gnomefreak> i love scriptassist ;)
[13:17] <gnomefreak> be back in a little while i have laundry to start
[14:59] <huats> fta : congrats !
[14:59] <huats> (you were wondering the other day how long it would take)
[15:21] <fta2> "You have been added to motu"
[15:22] <fta2> :)
[15:23] <fta2> almost 4 weeks
[16:17] <fta2> huats, thanks. indeed, it took longer than the announced 12 days but now it's behind me :)
[16:17] <huats> you deserve it
[16:17] <huats> I've been really impressed by your aplpication
[16:17] <huats> (I am speaking as a non MOTU myself)
[16:19] <fta2> it seems my application was a bit unusual, too specialized for some
[16:35] <sebner> fta: congratulations \o/
[16:50] <fta2> sebner, thanks
[17:44] <armin76> fta2: that means you can commit?
[17:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Is anyone looking at the issue raised in LP #239952 ?
[17:47] <Jazzva> fta, fta2: I just saw the e-mail. Congratulations :D
[18:25] <asac> Jazzva: o_o ?
[18:25] <asac> fta made it?
[18:25] <fta> yep, thanks for your support
[18:25] <fta> i own you a beer
[18:25] <asac> let the upflow begin ;)
[18:26] <asac> fta: no need to ;)
[18:26] <asac> but i wont say no ;)
[18:26] <fta> do you like guiness ?
[18:27] <asac> fta: i am not a fan of ale's but i still wont say no ;)
[18:28] <fta> lol
[18:33] <sebner> fta: you are a mozilla guy but I suppose you now the process with merging and syncing?
[18:33] <fta> sure
[18:33] <sebner> fta: what about your first sync ACKs as MOTU? ^^
[18:35] <fta> i assume that's part of it, try me in an hour or 2, i just came back from work
[18:38] <sebner> fta: sure. THX. I wouldn't bother but u-u-s is missing my older sync requests and I thought a nice beginning for you :D
[19:53] <asac> sebner: what is u-u-s?
[19:54] <sebner> asac: you are a motu. Shame on you :p
[19:54] <sebner> asac: ubuntu-universe-sponsors :P
[19:54] <asac> sebner: i know about that one ;)
[19:55] <asac> usually i get nagged about u-m-s ;)
[19:55] <sebner> asac: ^^
[19:55] <asac> but i would have recognized it from that  ;)
[19:55] <asac> "wouldnt"
[19:55] <asac> ;)
[19:55] <sebner> asac: another reason to join the group/fun :P
[20:14] <pmatulis> anyone here know anything about problems related to exporting /home (and hence .mozilla) over NFS?  i have a 100% reproduceable issue whereby FF3 is unusable after sudden/cold shutdown.
[20:18] <asac> pmatulis: so are there lock files in the .mozilla/ directory?
[20:19] <pmatulis> asac: there are FF profile locks, i'm keeping that as a separate issue
[20:19] <pmatulis> asac: after deleting them i can at least start FF
[20:19] <pmatulis> asac: but what i get is borked
[20:20] <asac> pmatulis: do you know if thats a regression over ffox 2 ... or an issue that existed all the time?
[20:20] <pmatulis> asac: good question, i have not yet tested FF2
[20:21] <pmatulis> asac: however, based on what i've read, this really sounds like an sqlite issue.  and that's FF3
[20:29] <asac> pmatulis: do you have a bug for that open?
[20:30] <asac> (sorry if i forgot the context)
[20:30] <pmatulis> no, i have not yet opened a bug
[20:31] <pmatulis> the context is very simple: just export /home over NFS
[20:31] <asac> pmatulis: ok. lets do that now, so we can get a place where we can put all that info
[20:31] <pmatulis> asac: public or private bug?
[20:32] <asac> public
[20:32] <pmatulis> seems there is one already open
[20:32] <pmatulis> one sec
[20:32] <asac> ok. subscribe me to it then ;)
[20:32] <pmatulis> k
[20:32] <asac> pmatulis: but maybe show me the bug
[20:32] <asac> i dont want to take over another bug ;)
[20:33] <asac> bug 237970
[20:33] <asac> pmatulis: ^^ that one right?
[20:34] <pmatulis> there was another one (the one i pinged you on last week) but that one wasn't in an NFS context
[20:35] <asac> pmatulis: that one is fixed in 3.0.1
[20:35] <asac> sure you are trying 3.0.1?
[20:35] <pmatulis> and the bug above seems to imply that there is *always* a problem (not just upon cold shutdown)
[20:35] <pmatulis> yes, i'm testing 3.0.1
[20:37] <asac> pmatulis: are you on intrepid or hardy?
[20:37] <pmatulis> asac: hardy
[20:37] <pmatulis> asac: you want me to test alpha 5?
[20:38] <asac> ok. the bug above is linked to mozilla bug  Bug 417037
[20:38] <asac> ok. the bug above is linked to mozilla bug 417037
[20:39] <asac> which is only fixed for MacOSX
[20:39] <asac> but not in firefox, in sqlite itself
[20:39] <asac> so maybe it was fixed in sqlite we have in intrepid
[20:39] <pmatulis> thought so -> sqlite
[20:39] <asac> pmatulis: so yes. would be worth a try. if intrepid sqlite has this fixed then we might be able to cherry-pick that
[20:40] <pmatulis> backport sqlite you mean?
[20:41] <asac> pmatulis: lets check whether its fixed ;)
[20:41] <asac> pmatulis: if it is we can try to cherry-pick whatever fixed it
[20:42] <asac> pmatulis: but i doubt its fixed :(
[20:42] <asac> mozilla bug 436737
[20:42] <asac> thats most likely our bug
[20:44] <pmatulis> asac: k, shift now over, will test alpha 5 tomorrow (downloaded it today actually)
[20:44] <asac> pmatulis: ok cool. just let me know
[20:44] <pmatulis> asac: but your bug suggests run-time problems all the time
[20:45] <pmatulis> asac: for me, just after bad shutdown
[20:45] <pmatulis> asac: and it then becomes completely unusable
[20:45] <pmatulis> asac: no buttons
[20:49] <asac> pmatulis: ok. i have to stop for today too --- too long a day alredy. will be back to lurk in a few hours, but otherwise cu tomorrow
[20:50] <pmatulis> asac: yup
[20:54] <crimsun> fta: WRT ff-3.1 and audio, are you using the pcm+ctl pulse alsa-lib plugin via alsa.conf?
[21:29] <posingaspopular> hello asac can you tell me if 64 bit flash works in hardy?
[21:30] <crimsun> non-Free 64-bit Flash?
[21:31] <crimsun> the 32-bit version (flashplugin-nonfree) certainly works with nspluginwrapper
[21:33] <posingaspopular> my understanding was that the flash 64 bit was somewhat flaky... my brother asked me to come in and get a second opinion. thanks crimsun
[21:33] <crimsun> posingaspopular: it can be flaky, yes.  Intrepid is better in that regard.
[21:36] <posingaspopular> thanks
[21:36] <posingaspopular> i appreciate it
[23:23] <fta> crimsun, hm, alsa.conf ? i don't think i touched that
[23:36] <crimsun> fta: that would have been the modified system-wide asoundrc from my alsa-lib branch (/usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf)
[23:38] <asac> is the pulse plugin enabled by default nowadays in intrepid?
[23:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Is anyone familiar with the xulrunner /gnome vfs interaction, or know for sure where the gnome vfs mime database is located?
[23:42] <fta> crimsun, i'm currently running 1.0.17a-0ubuntu1
[23:42] <fta> 1a80dc4d2fba9a9f869813bb875f0085  /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[23:43] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: it uses gnome_vfs api
[23:44] <fta> crimsun, and if rhythmbox is playing when i start ff3.1, i get tons of "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" when i visit a page with flash or <video>
[23:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Yeah, I know... but the VFS is returning bad results and causing handler failures, so I want to be sure where the data is supposed to be coming from
[23:49] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: ok. seems like you are in -desktop. thats a better place ;)
[23:51] <IntuitiveNipple> yeah, it looks like it is gnome-vfs that is making xulrunner fail
[23:51] <IntuitiveNipple> I dropped some debug code into xulrunner to make sure I know where and what it is doing